Doctoral Degree Tier List 2024 (Doctorate Degrees RANKED)

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[@MadeEasy353]

Just got my Ph.D. in Gender studies and Gender Engineering. So excited. Can't wait to engineer new genders and see how they behave. I always had a passion for Starbucks.

[@leslieclarkson2291]

Lmaooo

[@masturchief]

lmao you walk from Calc 3 straight to woman’s studies class 😂😂

[@larrysmith2655]

Man, that Starbucks about to have so much soy in it.

[@zappyoak588]

SLAY

[@efemboygg]

congrats, hopefully you end up on some advisory board at a fortune 500 or a professor with 0 chance of tenure when they cut the degree(literally only 2 jobs i can think of)

[@braylonlane3756]

As a teacher, nobody goes into teaching wanting to earn a doctorate to CONTINUE TEACHING. People with educational doctorate’s are then qualified to become good applicants for administrative roles like principal, superintendent, or director of community education.

[@E.Nicole]

I didn’t see this comment but I just made a similar comment. He needs to better research that degree because his overview was inaccurate. Most the time if someone wants to be a professor they’ll obtain a Ph.D and that’s only for higher education. You don’t need a doctorate to teach K-12.

[@braylonlane3756]

@@E.Nicole Precisely. In my state, it’s common for Superintendents and High school level principals to have Ed.D’s and common for professors to have Ph.D.’s

[@Jim_Tacitus]

i keep trying to get my wife to pursue a masters (shes been a teacher for 20 years) but she doesnt want to be an admin. i dont think she understands the economics of it.

[@jamesgaston2745]

I think another error he makes with this and a few other professions is we don't start in education for a big bank account. Satisfaction should be weighted more heavily because as a society we have pushed people towards a best financial outcome model and now we are seeing a very dissatisfied and disillusioned society.

[@E.Nicole]

@@jamesgaston2745 Great point!

[@michaeldillman1660]

As a PhD student, one thing I think most people don't realize is that you don't pay for a PhD in most fields - excluding professional schools like Law/Med school. Typically, you don't pay any tuition and are given a stipend of ~$2,500-$3,000/month (twice that if you're in the University of Cali system) to conduct research, assistant teach, etc. Another thing many people seem to miss (Shane included) is that most doctoral students in social sciences (Econ/Psych/Poli Sci/etc) gain valuable data science skills that enable them to work private sector tech jobs after completing their program. For example, just half of Econ PhD's currently work in academia. The other half work industry jobs. The average pay shows $150k, but that's because the $100k academia jobs are balanced out by the $200k industry jobs.

[@Thatguy-mo8jd]

Everybody knows PhDs get a stipend while in the program. Also your example using Econ shows how some are much more valuable while things like: art, history, engineering, etc are not so valuable. Also, the person who is smart enough to get a PhD in Econ is likely giving up a 70-80k job that doesn’t require crazy hours. So it still stands that a majority of individuals likely don’t come out ahead when looking at all those factors.

[@TheWorldTeacher]

doctor: a teacher, from Middle English (in the senses “learned person” and “Doctor of the Church”): via Old French, from the Latin “doctor” (“teacher”), from “docere” (“to teach”). Later, the word “doctor” was appropriated by the medical profession to denote a physician. Throughout the modern world, tertiary education institutions have been given the right to confer Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) degrees by the government of their respective countries. This is a fundamentally-flawed system for the following two reasons: As has been proven beyond any semblance of doubt in Chapter 22 of this “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”, non-monarchical governments have absolutely no authority whatsoever over the populace of their countries or nations. And even if a nation was ruled by a LEGITIMATE government (that is, a holy and righteous king), it is not within the purview of a national ruler to adjudicate which educational institutions are qualified to confer scholastic awards to its citizens. That function is best executed by a completely independent administrative body, established by recognized experts in a range of academic disciplines. The role of a national ruler is to protect the population and to ensure that the law (“dharma”, in Sanskrit) is enforced and promulgated. Furthermore, universities and colleges (especially in the Western world) have been increasingly promoting what is colloquially known as “leftism” (“adharma”, in Sanskrit), as well as bestowing post-graduate degrees upon those who would never have been able to even enter a university in previous centuries (not to mention a certain proportion of abject dunces, simply due to the fact that life in the West is relatively easy, and those dullards are able to spend several years of their lives in study, without needing to work for their livelihoods). Personally, I am extremely glad to not be counted amongst those imbeciles who have garnered a masters degree or a doctorate at a government-endorsed institute of “education”. As the current World Doctor Himself, I have witnessed that the calibre of the typical doctoral candidate is nowadays so appalling, that I would be loath to be the recipient of a PhD degree from any extant so-called “university/college”. Honestly, I would consider it to be a great DISHONOUR! Even the so-called “hard sciences”, such as physics, chemistry, mathematics, biology, and engineering, have become increasingly adulterated by adharma. For example, in Western academia (and by the time you are reading this Scripture, most all the schools of higher-learning in the East too) it is, in practice, impossible for an academic to assert the scientific fact that intelligence has a biological (that is, a genetic) component, and even if one was permitted to posit such a truism, it would be frowned upon to stress the fact that a person’s genome is the predominating factor in determining one’s intellectual capacity (not to mention bringing racial differences into the picture!). See also “philosophy”. P.S. Marcus Tullius Cicero, the Roman statesman and philosopher who first introduced the term “doctor” in his book, “De Oratore”, in 55 BC, used the word to describe denote a MORAL guide of the state. Cicero breaks down the term “docere” further and summarizes that “to teach” means to provide truth through rational argument and statement of facts. Therefore, according to this most authentic definition of the term, very few so-called “doctors” are, in fact, doctors, at least in the field of academic philosophy.

[@le4864]

No lie this blew me up wow thanks!!!!!

[@biajidejajchowdhury1058]

200k job for Econ phd, good luck!

[@drmadjdsadjadi]

@@biajidejajchowdhury1058 $200k+ is not hard to get honestly as an Econ PhD IF you are employed at a consulting firm.

[@kevfer7570]

Just wanted to drop my 2 cents here, I'm a physics PhD student. I can't speak for other sciences, but if you have a bachelors in physics/math and you do just a little bit of career prep junior/senior year of college you can line up 70-90k jobs quite readily. As far as PhD goes, you can land really lucrative jobs in analytical fields like insurance, finance, medicine, tech deep into 6 figures. It's a very different reality than just grossly looking at all jobs marked 'scientist'.

[@felixkalpa]

McKinsey came recruiting physci/math bachelors a month before graduation in my year. The head of the recruitment team was former durector of the low temp condensed matter lab at Princeton. Becoming a destroyer of society is definitely an option for scientists tired of the research and publishing hamster wheel.

[@pnutbutta1234567]

Yep. Physics is a math degree so you can get a job pretty much anywhere.

[@felixkalpa]

The reverse isn't true, most of the math students I knew hated doing labs and avoided physics and chem classes.

[@pnutbutta1234567]

@@felixkalpa How they felt about it is irrelevant. On average, how many students have a passion for labs and homework over the course of a degree? Once you get the degree though, you can work in I.T., finance, insurance, government, medicine -anywhere

[@felixkalpa]

How many? At the undergrad level about 15% in my program were left after 4 years, some of them changing to pure math because they hated the labs (some of which were admittedly pretty bad and run by techs with axes to grind). But really doing just math makes more sense going into finance and consulting etc. because none of those gigs have anything to do with actual lab experimentation.

[@kennethkau2332]

Hi Shane, Definitely overlooked Economics PhD’s. Econ PhD’s do very well on the job market compared to other social sciences, even better than Psychology. PhD Economists need advanced mathematics such as linear algebra, differential equations, probability theory, real analysis, and high GRE scores just to get into a PhD program. Rigorous barriers to entry limit the supply of graduates. All Econ PhD’s can code or use some sort of statistical software.

[@kennethkau2332]

Also, Econ PhD’s have great employment prospects in government, finance, business, etc, not to mention econ professors are some of the best compensated.

[@TheMorhaGroup]

yeah especially with the Swedish body creating a noble prize -Esque award for it, econ has really picked up steam in value

[@Simple.Wordless]

Yeah my Economics chair at my public university makes $230,000+

[@michaeldillman1660]

If you aim for industry jobs from the start, you can gain the data science and consulting skills in most social sciences (Poli Sci/Psych/Econ etc)

[@mr.nicolas4367]

Real analysis?

[@amydassi4429]

Shane, I know this is unrelated but I just wanted to share that I just graduated from college with a Bachelor’s in Business Management and landed a job with a $65k starting salary at a big company with great benefits and guaranteed advancement after 2 years! They also will pay for me to get my MBA if I want. Your videos helped me a lot in feeling confident that I chose a good major :)

[@FullmetalScientist]

My two cents on the STEM PhD category. I think the overview you gave was pretty broad and missed a few things. Yes, there might not be a need for a graduate level degree for these fields. But typically you can come in as a more senior level or higher pay grade that could take longer to achieve with a BS+exp. Additionally, PhDs in these fields are trained to be researchers so the job prospects can vary quite heavily. Aside from academia, PhDs can pursue industry R&D jobs, National lab positions, build startups, do consulting, or managerial roles. I think many people underestimate the versatility of the problem solving and project management skill set one develops after a very focused period of doing research for a PhD.

[@Iphie2019]

I completely agree with your comment. I am currently getting a PhD in Quantitative Biomedical Science and what prompted me to get it is cos I work in R&D as an epidemiologist. It was clear that a PHD will be most beneficial to my career success.

[@blessedswimmer]

Agree wholeheartedly with the previous comment. I would echo, as someone pursuing a PhD in a science field, that the landscape is very broad with respect to the job fields my skills are applicable to, and there is a wide salary range depending on the interest. I’ve seen people go into everything from academia, to direct officer rank in the military, to R&D. Most recently I’ve seen a few colleagues parlay their science PhDs into 6 figure tech jobs! A lot of people getting a science PhD pick up coding in at least one language to deal with all the data being generated. That transferable skill is great for folks wanting to go into something like data science or software engineering.

[@dannypresson]

Hello Shane. If you want to generate more content on this topic you may consider exploring the specializations within each of these disciplines. For instance, I have a PhD in Industrial/Organizational Psychology but I have never, and will not ever, conduct a therapy session like a Clinical Psychologist. In fact, it would be illegal for me to do so. Psychology has many sub-disciplines beneath it (e.g., Clinical, Experimental, Cognitive, Neuropsychology, Social Psych, and I/O). As you probably already know, all of these areas have significantly different educational tracks and outcomes. Point being, when you present information for psychologists with a PhD, it can appear incomplete given the different avenues one can go down. Apologies if you have already done this, I just recently found your channel. Best.

[@TheWorldTeacher]

doctor: a teacher, from Middle English (in the senses “learned person” and “Doctor of the Church”): via Old French, from the Latin “doctor” (“teacher”), from “docere” (“to teach”). Later, the word “doctor” was appropriated by the medical profession to denote a physician. Throughout the modern world, tertiary education institutions have been given the right to confer Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) degrees by the government of their respective countries. This is a fundamentally-flawed system for the following two reasons: As has been proven beyond any semblance of doubt in Chapter 22 of this “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”, non-monarchical governments have absolutely no authority whatsoever over the populace of their countries or nations. And even if a nation was ruled by a LEGITIMATE government (that is, a holy and righteous king), it is not within the purview of a national ruler to adjudicate which educational institutions are qualified to confer scholastic awards to its citizens. That function is best executed by a completely independent administrative body, established by recognized experts in a range of academic disciplines. The role of a national ruler is to protect the population and to ensure that the law (“dharma”, in Sanskrit) is enforced and promulgated. Furthermore, universities and colleges (especially in the Western world) have been increasingly promoting what is colloquially known as “leftism” (“adharma”, in Sanskrit), as well as bestowing post-graduate degrees upon those who would never have been able to even enter a university in previous centuries (not to mention a certain proportion of abject dunces, simply due to the fact that life in the West is relatively easy, and those dullards are able to spend several years of their lives in study, without needing to work for their livelihoods). Personally, I am extremely glad to not be counted amongst those imbeciles who have garnered a masters degree or a doctorate at a government-endorsed institute of “education”. As the current World Doctor Himself, I have witnessed that the calibre of the typical doctoral candidate is nowadays so appalling, that I would be loath to be the recipient of a PhD degree from any extant so-called “university/college”. Honestly, I would consider it to be a great DISHONOUR! Even the so-called “hard sciences”, such as physics, chemistry, mathematics, biology, and engineering, have become increasingly adulterated by adharma. For example, in Western academia (and by the time you are reading this Scripture, most all the schools of higher-learning in the East too) it is, in practice, impossible for an academic to assert the scientific fact that intelligence has a biological (that is, a genetic) component, and even if one was permitted to posit such a truism, it would be frowned upon to stress the fact that a person’s genome is the predominating factor in determining one’s intellectual capacity (not to mention bringing racial differences into the picture!). See also “philosophy”. P.S. Marcus Tullius Cicero, the Roman statesman and philosopher who first introduced the term “doctor” in his book, “De Oratore”, in 55 BC, used the word to describe denote a MORAL guide of the state. Cicero breaks down the term “docere” further and summarizes that “to teach” means to provide truth through rational argument and statement of facts. Therefore, according to this most authentic definition of the term, very few so-called “doctors” are, in fact, doctors, at least in the field of academic philosophy.

[@abrahamlincoln7912]

I’m trying to get into dental school right now. There are plenty of opportunities to get scholarships that will pay for all 4 years but with certain criteria: you usually just have to work in an underserved area for 1-2 years. I definitely think that the career is worth it, especially if you’re interested in a surgical-type profession without wanting to spend 10+ years in medical school and residency.

[@Qwasieee_P]

I mean 1-2 is still experience you can write in your resume. Good thing education is free in my country lol.

[@wolfworks7339]

Free dental school in exchange for a guaranteed job? Is there even a downside to this? XD

[@michaelhilton1753]

Some PhD programs actually pay for your schooling, chemistry for example. You won’t accumulate debt in most hard sciences.

[@mariosblago94]

Most do. It's literally the whole point of a PhD. If you have to pay to work for the school, run... get your PhD anywhere else.

[@bradymack]

Do NOT go into pharmacy. Ten years ago it was a viable career, but most jobs are in the retail sector. Due to low staffing and an increasing number of tasks needed to be done, pharmacy is a dumpster fire right now. Signed: a former pharmacist.

[@Biggamehunna]

The problem with Clinical Psychology is not how long the schooling is, and people being unaware of that. The problem is how difficult it is to get into these programs. I dropped the idea of doing this because of the low odds of getting into one of these programs in Canada. I was going to get honours, do extra undergrad research, volunteer, do it all. But even if I did I was going to be one of hundreds or even thousands vying for the same 6-12 spots per program with a yearly intake.

[@pnutbutta1234567]

This usually applies if you are trying to get into a fairly new or highly specialized sub set or one of the popular brand name schools like McGill. Cast a wider a net.

[@Biggamehunna]

@@pnutbutta1234567 As far as I know this is for every accredited clinical psychology program in Canada. Private, non-accredited programs are easier but then you have to pay way more and need to seek accreditation after your program

[@pnutbutta1234567]

@@Biggamehunna I imagine you a re talking about CPA accredited programs, if so, then I know for a fact that Saskatchewan and Manitoba had openings. . .like I said, cast a wider net.

[@jwc3104]

Engineering PhD’s could be really good for couple of reasons 1) usually tuition is free and you are paid some stipend. 2) can land 6fig jobs right out of the program, if you plan it early.

[@bjjacksonii508]

Could you go in depth a little about the science phd and explain those differences such as biology, chemistry, biochemistry, physics, and geology with their flexibility if you haven’t already?

[@KuroiXHF]

I think I missed stats/biostatistics/data science. Not sure how that would fall. It's ok. There is a ton of material to cover. I do have to say I love how you read comments and allow yourself to be humbled from others. We can only have so much experience and can only get so much knowledge from sources.

[@trevonmuhammad7830]

I think you may need to do more research on educational doctorates. There is a diversity of educational doctorates beyond teaching; ranging from creating curriculum, superintended or director of any teaching, learning, and educational companies that are public private or non-for profit. You can also become a tech specialist, dean, president, vp, or even a chancellor. And all make well over 6 figures.

[@CHiCguitar]

Pharmacy student here. My school's class size has decreased by almost half in the last 5 years or so. I think they're working on it from my perspective. It's definitely not as easy to get in as it was even 5 years ago.

[@davidburgio-ju5wu]

I started practicing as a Nurse Practitioner in 1982 when NP's weren't in demand. We had to practice under a physician and salary was not much higher than a RN. Things got better over the years with increased pay and autonomy. In NV where I live, we have independent practice and the salary can be very good in specialty areas or with a pay per patient system. Unfortunately, the cons you listed for physicians also apply to us. Since we are have the same responsibilities now as physicians, we have the same stressors. So, basically we are doing the same job for half the salary. Also, nurses are flocking to the field and many on line schools.are opening up. I fear for over saturation of the market with lesser trained NP's in the future.

[@NurseJanice]

I am in the UK and I am about to start my Professional Doctorate PhD in Nursing paid for my work and part time whilst I work in my topic! And looking forward to it! I am currently an Infection Prevention and Control nurse consultant!

[@kat.ex3909]

I applaud anyone who wanted to further to doctorate cuz like I don’t think many want to go to school for that long.

[@Nectarine998]

Going to one of the top rated pharmacy schools in the country next year, yay! I worry a little about the lack of job growth but since I am not going into this just for an easy 6-figure income, but rather because I love pharmaceuticals. I'm planning on clinical and specializing into Pediatrics. I'm so excited!

[@notequalto5179]

I started with a bachelor's degree in information science and am doing my doctoral degree in Psychology. I started with a higher pay job and taught me how to work with data and tech. This helped my psych PhD program greatly.

[@carinatorres9139]

im interested in learning more about this. sounds interesting!

[@codyfarlow]

You should really break these down more. College Professor is a career not a PhD program. In engineering a PhD can be detrimental or expected depending on the field. Even within the same degree (ex: computer engineering) you may require a graduate degree to obtain jobs (ex chip design). A doctorate is considered a terminal degree which does not include a JD. There are also more industry focused programs now like the doctorate of engineering. The subspecialties will have a major impact as well. Doctorates get highly specific.

[@codyfarlow]

Also, optometry is a specialty for an MD so I have no idea why you separated the two.

[@Matthewholst00]

That's opthalmology, not an optometrist or an optician. The order of those is MD + residency training, doctor of optometry, optician which is more of a technician ​@@codyfarlow

[@codyfarlow]

@@Matthewholst00 thank you for the correction.

[@rbq19931]

As someone currently getting a PhD in Political Science (Also have a masters in Econ), I would say that you should definitely NOT go into debt for any social science/humanities degree. Also, the school ranking matters quite a lot for finding a job as a professor. So, don’t go in debt and go to a top program in your field. Only then, a PhD might* be worth it.

[@pnutbutta1234567]

kinda, however, there's a been a shift over the last few years to publishing. If you go to or went to a lower ranked or even a mid-tier school, you can get around the ranking issue with published works and conference presentation.

[@Biomeducated]

PhD program in about 4.5 years for me (Belgium). Cool to see I've made it to B tier in the US. :p Also, didn't know you are a pharmacist!

[@moiseshernandez6241]

Getting my PhD in Clinical Psychology at the moment. Would love if you could separate PhD in Clinical Psychology from PsyDs. PsyDs are very likely not funded at all, whereas Ph.D. are likely to be funded at least for the first two years.

[@leeroy9713]

what do you mean by “funded”?

[@moehern]

@@leeroy9713 for PhD's particularly at institutions that do research, tuition is very often waived for PhD students and they get paid a stipend every semester to help cover living expenses

[@Laura-Yu]

You think he’d do that when he literally clumped all the science majors together? Lol

[@moehern]

@@Laura-Yu haha true. Did the best he could I guess!

[@sirbaguette8378]

Yeah, pretty disappointed in his treatment of the psychology doctorates. He didn't differentiate between research PhDs (eg. social/cognitive psych) from practioner PhDs (eg. clinical/counselling). Pay is typically higher for practioners. Not only that, but he didn't even provide a specialism of practitioning psychology... A neuropsychologist (which earn a disgusting amount of money) will be earning way more than your average clinical our counselling psychologist.

[@cardsfan5100]

A D of Ed is for those who want to go into administration (principal or above). Principals tend to not make less than $100,000/year.

[@DNHarris]

Yes, I thought it was odd he assumed a EdD for primary/secondary teaching.. LUL, as a backup, maybe. If a EdD wanted to teach they would be well qualified to teach (or be an administrator) at the university level. An EdD is perfect for critical thinking skills required in top administrative positions in educational insitutions. Speaking of the DBA and PhD in Business Administration (or a PhD in Economics as someone else pointed out earlier), Shane made a huge miss by excluding this one. Businesses are becoming more aware of the need to have practitioner-scholars in leadership roles as global competition rises and navigating the social and political landscapes becomes more difficult. Businesses can benefit greatly when they have someone on payroll who has inductive, deductive, and abductive reasoning skills to apply to resolve their real world problems that affect their organization. Real world business application of research design, implementation, and dissemination is emphasized in any top-tier DBA or PhD Econ/Business program.

[@glitcharcing]

Most doctoral degrees are funded unlike master’s programs, medical degrees, and juris doctoral degrees. The general advice is to not pursue a doctoral degree unless it is funded. Also when you looked up “psychologist” that only applied to clinical psychologists and therefore practitioners, not including researchers (within clinical as well as social, quant, and cognitive psych).

[@jessewfowler]

Not sure you understood the assignment, bro.

[@therese2523]

I would love to see you include Nurse Practitioner

[@laurentruong]

AI/ML engineers “typically” need a PhD, still hard to get into the field with just a masters.

[@TheWorldTeacher]

doctor: a teacher, from Middle English (in the senses “learned person” and “Doctor of the Church”): via Old French, from the Latin “doctor” (“teacher”), from “docere” (“to teach”). Later, the word “doctor” was appropriated by the medical profession to denote a physician. Throughout the modern world, tertiary education institutions have been given the right to confer Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) degrees by the government of their respective countries. This is a fundamentally-flawed system for the following two reasons: As has been proven beyond any semblance of doubt in Chapter 22 of this “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”, non-monarchical governments have absolutely no authority whatsoever over the populace of their countries or nations. And even if a nation was ruled by a LEGITIMATE government (that is, a holy and righteous king), it is not within the purview of a national ruler to adjudicate which educational institutions are qualified to confer scholastic awards to its citizens. That function is best executed by a completely independent administrative body, established by recognized experts in a range of academic disciplines. The role of a national ruler is to protect the population and to ensure that the law (“dharma”, in Sanskrit) is enforced and promulgated. Furthermore, universities and colleges (especially in the Western world) have been increasingly promoting what is colloquially known as “leftism” (“adharma”, in Sanskrit), as well as bestowing post-graduate degrees upon those who would never have been able to even enter a university in previous centuries (not to mention a certain proportion of abject dunces, simply due to the fact that life in the West is relatively easy, and those dullards are able to spend several years of their lives in study, without needing to work for their livelihoods). Personally, I am extremely glad to not be counted amongst those imbeciles who have garnered a masters degree or a doctorate at a government-endorsed institute of “education”. As the current World Doctor Himself, I have witnessed that the calibre of the typical doctoral candidate is nowadays so appalling, that I would be loath to be the recipient of a PhD degree from any extant so-called “university/college”. Honestly, I would consider it to be a great DISHONOUR! Even the so-called “hard sciences”, such as physics, chemistry, mathematics, biology, and engineering, have become increasingly adulterated by adharma. For example, in Western academia (and by the time you are reading this Scripture, most all the schools of higher-learning in the East too) it is, in practice, impossible for an academic to assert the scientific fact that intelligence has a biological (that is, a genetic) component, and even if one was permitted to posit such a truism, it would be frowned upon to stress the fact that a person’s genome is the predominating factor in determining one’s intellectual capacity (not to mention bringing racial differences into the picture!). See also “philosophy”. P.S. Marcus Tullius Cicero, the Roman statesman and philosopher who first introduced the term “doctor” in his book, “De Oratore”, in 55 BC, used the word to describe denote a MORAL guide of the state. Cicero breaks down the term “docere” further and summarizes that “to teach” means to provide truth through rational argument and statement of facts. Therefore, according to this most authentic definition of the term, very few so-called “doctors” are, in fact, doctors, at least in the field of academic philosophy.

[@sethjared]

Great video! It is unbelievable that more people don't do this simple supply/demand research before enrolling in college. Back in the 1990s the demand for lawyers was so high that you could get a cushy corporate job right out of law school. My Dad changed careers and graduated in 1991 and doubled his previous career's salary. The movie "The Firm" with Tom Cruise came out around that time. Being a lawyer was hot! Cut to 2022, not so much. But it's always changing as the economy changes so it's super important to be aware of these trends.

[@TheMorhaGroup]

the pursuit of education should not be boiled down to "supply and demand". you assume degrees only exist to get you a job and that is your first mistake.

[@pnutbutta1234567]

@@TheMorhaGroup That's exactly what they exist for😁

[@TheMorhaGroup]

@@pnutbutta1234567 and that isn't true which is the point of my comment

[@pnutbutta1234567]

@@TheMorhaGroup and it is true which is the point of my comment

[@joelmatus9442]

@@TheMorhaGroup are you joking man. That's the main reason people do higher education for better job prospects.

[@Kingz602]

Make a video for specifically a PhD for in Economics and DBA (Business Administration)

[@depiction3435]

I've been in the Hedge Fund industry for 19 years now, and I run my own fund now. If you are thinking of getting into anything quant or hedge fund related, make sure you can pass the various tests that different parts of the industry give. Quant funds essentially give IQ tests, and I can't tell you how many PhDs fail these. I've had a few that just cry and go into a full blown panic attack once they fail, and no wonder considering they spent a good portion of their life doing something that is basically useless to them, or that they then have to settle for less. I will say that I've seen some very smart BS degrees just walk into an interview and out perform the PhDs. We hired one guy right out of school who has a BS in stats, and who just smoked the competition, and within two years had both his CFA and FRM. If you can't perform at the highest level, or you're not certain, do yourself a favor and go into engineering or something.

[@ShaneHummus]

Pretty cool that hedge fund managers watch my videos. Appreciate the comment!

[@harveyts3]

I'm about 1/4 of the way through my doctorate in data analytics from a world renound university. I'm paying out of pocket but had to go into a lot of debt before my job got me to the place I am today after getting my master's. These things are all given and take. There is no real ROI for my doctorate. When I do the calculations, I might break even based on opportunity costs. I might even come out a little behind between now and 17 years post graduation. However when I leave industry I want to teach university after I retire and this is the way that is possible. Of course I will end up making more then I would if I live long enough but you need to have the goals that I have to make that make sense too.

[@aena5995]

How did it go

[@ezekielesezobor7304]

Very informative content as always! Please can you do a video for Occupational Therapist (OTD)

[@brianwskim]

I will say that as a physical therapist, I’ve noticed a lot of survivorship bias. not many people last more than 5 years, and job satisfaction metrics are skewed towards people who have stayed on past that point. In Australia, I’ve heard that 50% of us change careers within 5 years.

[@matthewfontenot5157]

I am sure there are classroom teachers out there with terminal degrees, but I do not know any personally. Most people with the EdD or PhD in education are in administration or higher ed. Also, I think the EdD is under appreciated. Lots of fields completely separate from K-12 and higher education offer the EdD. I have seen it tailored to business, nursing, audiology, dietetic, etc. students at different universities.

[@orpix34]

I think you’re overstating the difficulty and how selective becoming a college professor actually is. Yes, of course majors that don’t often lead to good jobs or jobs at all will have more people trying to become college professors, but there are many many universities out there and some of them NEED professors. Even if you can’t get a gig at a university immediately, it is a piece of cake to get one at a community college even with a Master’s and work your way up.

[@Laura-Yu]

I think you’re mixing up professor versus instructor. It’s much easier to become an instructor while educational institutions are much more selective with professors

[@correyretzloff6421]

Where does a Doctorate of Business Administration (DBA) rank?

[@mrcharlesjohnson]

As a pharmacist, I’d say you put the pharmacist profession too high. You are correct about the schools. However, those jobs other than retail are hard to break into, AND getting a residency is super competitive. I’d say C-tier at best.

[@harmanthind8936]

The profession is definitely a high B or low A tier. There are so many things you can do with a PharmD, and it's not as difficult as you say it is to break into another field unless you're just lazy or an NPC

[@ibmaui]

Thoughts on the DBA?

[@glitcharcing]

lol I’m so confused by the college professor entry for a doctoral degree before i quickly realized this is actually a tier list for jobs that require doctoral degree

[@anuragchakraborty8766]

PhD in Mechanical Engineering. Unemployed since 1 year.

[@BlessingsfromBridget]

I’ve seen job listings on Indeed for jobs that require a PhD in computer science that pay $400,000. I’m going for a BS in computer science right now. This pay makes me wonder if I should go for a PhD but you can make good money with just a BS in computer science anyway. I would like to go for an MS in computational linguistics (computer science + linguistics) after this degree

[@pnutbutta1234567]

@BlessingsfromBridget i'd take that with a grain of salt. look at the company that is offering that, where are thy located and how many other similar postings can you find. you can get a little over of 200k if you are in some of the tech hubs like CA, WA or NY -but typically those places have higher costs of living so your take home would be considerably less than say making a 120 grand and living in Iowa

[@chrisdavis6264]

You forgot to add Doctorate of Business Administration! Please do a video on DBA and/or PhD of Business Administration

[@Scott21]

I just learned that a lawyer with a JD degree can be called Esquire as a title

[@takuyamatsuda7214]

Good to know that a lot of veterinarians get depressed

[@mikemcconville2495]

I have a Doctor of Ministry. I’m proud that my Doctorate is so low it didn’t make the list!😅

[@mgminthantaung1363]

Wow bro. Love it. 💝🌟 Thank you very much

[@crabcrab2024]

You distinguish between an acupuncturist and a chiropractor, but put all S PhDs together? What is wrong with you?

[@airiusadam2889]

Wait till you see my PhD in League of Legends. I earn the Accreditation of Feeders and Trollers society, for having the highest rated mute bans, with the average KDA of -4.

[@ShecalledmeKING]

lol what Teacher do you know walking around with a Ed.D. Those who go that far usually are Principals, Curriculum Designers and superintendents. Well over 150K

[@badgeow8538]

My sister has a masters in architecture and yes she does make good money.

[@informationsuperhighway101]

did you get 15k results for lawyer bc you typed "lawer"

[@informationsuperhighway101]

i just punched it in and got 95k

[@alienboogieman]

He typed lawyer in the search bar look again.

[@sender155]

Interestingly enough, this would be a misleading search. I think more typically in the U.S., firms are looking to hire an "attorney", not a lawyer. The destinction being an attorney has a license to practice law and a lawyer has only passed law school, not necessarily the bar exam.

[@UrbanBeauty166]

I would like to suggest that maybe discussing more on the side of job satisfaction in relevance to the degree earned would help determine rankings. That as well as the general difficulty in earning the degree. Those would make certain people more or less inclined to pursue the degree, if they feel they would be fulfilled and happy in their career as well if the hard work they put into earning the degree was worth it.

[@johngutierrez8399]

😂

[@onmas909]

2:18 Hi Shane. I was wondering what the PhDs are that are oversaturated?

[@dominicryangabriel7930]

DBA?

[@alexeytarabarov-tf4yf]

My two cents as a PhD student in chemistry. Firstly, 90% of PhD students worldwide are not in debt. Secondly, you compare those degrees almost solely on a starting salary. At least in my department, all people went for a PhD with realizing that they won’t make much money. I guess the right comparison should be based on which degree might give you more research opportunities and which field is accelerating nowadays.

[@Acoztwin]

On your next video can you include DBAs?

[@gigiv769]

I think an important aspect to incorporate into the ranking would be the opportunities for loan forgiveness programs. As a doctoral candidate in a PsyD clinical psychology program, I am only pursuing career options with loan forgiveness. it is actually very common through working at a VA, with the military and other non- profits. Furthermore, most of the PhD programs are fully funded and provide stipends. I was recently speaking about this with a friend who would like to go to law school but is not sure because of the debt he will incur- I was not able to relate given that I am not thinking about having to pay a lot of that debt back thanks to the various loan forgiveness options. The same is true for some of the other doctoral programs you mentioned and should be discussed.

[@御嵐-x4t]

Just jump into the PsyD Clinical Psych. Program. Indeed, most PsyDs do not provide as many scholarships as PhDs. But PsyDs provide more practicums than PhDs, which are priceless and beneficial when it comes to finding careers. Most people who graduated from our program receive much more pay than those listed on websites. So it really depends on who you met during those practicums, the internship, and what you're looking for. Besides, psychology is separated into various portions (Clinical psych, Counseling psych, Neuropsych...etc.), and their pay differs. However, since the growth of needs in these related careers has dramatically increased, it makes both PhDs and PsyDs even more challenging to enter. According to my admissions counselor, they received about 400-600 applicants each year from 2010 to 2019, while they accepted about 60 to 70 individuals for each cohort. However, the number of applicants increased started from 2020. They have more than 1,000, but the class is getting smaller than before, making it more competitive. Really highly recommend for those who want to join clinical psych deeply think about what you/they want to do before applying and what model do you want to participate in (Ph.D. and PsyD. are in different models). If you are NOT SURE about what you would like to do in the psychological field, please DO NOT apply to the psychological programs, especially the doctorates...

[@brandonsinger4857]

I dont know if you will update this for 2024 but you should touch on DNP (Doctor of Nurse Practice) the DNP essentially allows a seasoned and experienced nurse to "specialize" in a similar way to a physician. For example you can become a FMNP (family medicine nurse practitioner), a PMHNP (psychiatric/mental health NP), CRNA (certified registered nurse of anesthesia) and so many more!

[@giovannierowe8847]

Doctor of Business Administration? It's good right?

[@ceylonlife]

Most science PhDs are fully funded. You most likely will get 30K-40K salary per year. It's nothing compared to a real job. But if you do love science you can get your PhD for free. :)

[@Simple.Wordless]

No DBA or DHA?

[@JamesJoyce12]

why a pharmacy PhD when you can do 90% of pharmacy without a PhD?

[@Xh-xg2ll]

Hello, Shane! Could you please make a video on pharmacology? Would really appreciate it. Thank you.

[@mackyj7801]

Architecture here, can say 100% Phd in useless in the Professional field,while a masters is critical as you need to to get a license in countries like UK, Canada, RSA, Kenya, India,Aus etc. PhD is for academy so will not see a salary increase or the figures shown here.

[@aaronbarton227]

Going for my MSc-Project Management and Operations at Southern New Hampshire University. Luckily, for me, I have the Post 9/11 GI Bill that is paid at 100%. Associate of Science in Business Administration at SMC Bachelor of Science in Hospitality Management w/minor in Meetings and Events Management at UNLV *Master of Science in Project Management and Operations at SNHU Note: *Pending

[@pnutbutta1234567]

@aaronbarton227 depending on if you want to work in project management, look at getting the PMP as soon as you can.

[@ingsmiley]

Nothing for the business majors 😮

[@omarpina9453]

Hey! Thank you for this! However, I think you missed Occupational Therapist Doctorate! It would be great if you can also give some info on that and compare it with a Physical Therapy Doctorate please and thank you!

[@venusmoontarot]

Why you didn’t discuss phd in business????

[@wjjwTheDemigod]

Need a video on the 50 different type of pharmacist.

[@SpiceIsNice]

I want to get a english degree. Do you think that's a good idea? (Keep I mind I want to be a english teacher for high schoolers.)

[@UrbanBeauty166]

I wouldn't recommend going as far as a doctorate degree for any teaching jobs, because you can accomplish being an English teacher or high school teacher often with just a Bachelor or Master degree in the relevant subject.

[@ljtiongco2584]

I’m doing PhD in Nursing. Any thoughts about it?

[@pnutbutta1234567]

@ljtiongco2584 My two cents: that will help you get hospital administration jobs especially if you have any experience being a floor nurse. You will be able to pick what you want. or if you want to teach, again you will be able to pick what you want.

[@upsidedownheehoo]

Hello Shane, I’m thinking of becoming a psychologist but I live in Australia and I believe university is a lot different than in America, a lot better I’ve heard I’m wondering if you have any resources or suggestions for researching what I’m interested in, being a psychologist in Australia, thanks Shane great video as always :)

[@TheInterficio]

You've got the same bottle neck, it can potentially be tougher, since we tend to regulate Psychology a bit more, especially for the higher paying (i.E clinical psychologist) jobs. Youve got anywhere between 600-1200 people applying for Masters of Clinical Psychology, and around 20 slots per University. Its a great career, but you do need to make sure you get first class honours, and the big hurdle happens after you've already invested 4 years of study.

[@JohnLeslieHansen]

He didn’t say anything about business. No DBA. No PhD Business. Nothing. Wtf?

[@thatonegirl6880]

I make the same as a doctor in Physical Therapy and as a psychologist with my Masters degree.

[@Okology]

Great analysis

[@dave4413]

Hi Shane, would you mind making a video of best majors to do if you are interested in Sport. I’m aware of sports science not being the best degree but looking at other careers that have the possibility to work alongside sport. E.g. data science. Thanks😊

[@shelbychapa]

Wife is a vet, base pay is much higher now. 120k-150k plus bonuses.

[@marcelalopez311]

I dont like the debt ratio used. MUST consider energy balance. The energy investment in a concert, vynils just goes to waste. The energy investment in a new building, house gives you back a home, etc.

[@marcelalopez311]

2) More educated persons in pharmacy means an improvement in population health! What's wrong with this guy!

[@jarepondio]

Good job 👏

[@annebebee6764]

What about Doctor of Nursing Practice?

[@mackyj7801]

This list should be a degree list as your confusing PhDs with industry degrees like MBAs, M.Arch and Law degrees. In alot of places PhDs don't get paid better in practice and are not need how many ceos do you see with Phds in business, law of architecture!

[@PaulineNgigi-p3j]

Hi shane , im moses and since last year I've been viewing your videos and am actually impressed. I've just completed high school and I would wish to pursue pharmaceutical science kindly enlighten me about it

[@mattyalpert]

Physical therapist and occupational therapist doctorates are equal to a masters. Except a different title of the degree and is very different than a PhD in rehabilitation science. The Ed.D is very off as well.

[@Placasm]

Im french and studies to become dentists are 6 years long and they're free, but the average salary is around 100k euros (around 110k dollars) is becoming a dentist in french worth it ?

[@monaoconnell5650]

What about DNP?

[@BronacKon]

The science doctorate is way off. You can get jobs at the BS level and you are not likely to go into debt because tuition is usually waived for private schools and in state rates are given for public universities. You also get teaching assistantships positions as first to second year students and research grants in later years. Essentially you are paid to go to grad school, albeit not well, but certainly enough to survive without taking out loans. It usually takes about 5 years to get a PhD, and you don't need to get a masters first.

[@justwatchvideos11]

Look at him wearing glasses and not being able to see the flaw of rating optometry lower than physical therapy. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@callous21]

Pharmacists aren't hindered by residency like drs

[@johnaburus5803]

Would love to see what you have to say about nursing Ph.Ds since they vary so widely

[@Basilisk4119]

Get a Phd and then write books about what you know; you'll be quids in

[@lainawaina9972]

Doctor of Education can make you a principal or college professor not just a teacher

[@MoReNo_T98]

Bra at least update the year for the quick fact of vet med. Is 4 years obsolete.

[@virginiavallek1654]

Going in for my PSYD in clinical psychology in fall 23...