Emotions are a Weakness? | Earthshock | Doctor Who

[@octazooka3452]

5th Doctor is so underrated, probably due to the fact he came after the 4th😅 but he still had some great stories!

[@WertyQ543]

Peter has undoubtably one of the driest sense of wit in real life

[@stevenredpath9332]

He had some of the darkest stories. I have never seen a companion leave because of sheer emotional exhaustion and fatigue.

[@alexhenderson1312]

It would have been great to have seen him stay on for another season or two after Caves of Androzani 😇😎👍

[@octazooka3452]

@@alexhenderson1312 Yess but I thought that story was a perfect end to his season but I’m sad he only stayed for 2 years 😓

[@alexhenderson1312]

@@octazooka3452 Yes, that was a good send off nonetheless 🥺🤩🥳👏👍

[@DanTheMan2150AD]

Davison really got the short end of the stick most of the time but boy a lot of his stories let him flex his acting chops and allow 5 to become so much more than the imposing figure of his former incarnations. Also gotta love David Banks, can’t go wrong with him.

[@friendlyotaku9525]

you could say David Banks is... excellent!

[@michaeljones8168]

Using the TARDIS doors as a weapon. Classic Who was so awesome!

[@danniemadsen1996]

You broke your streak of regeneration clips in one row.

[@tejashdasgupta1840]

The fifth doctor really had some of the best stories from classic who

[@mayotango1317]

No, this is the only good. Most of them are crap.

[@jonathandzwonar1637]

Caves of Androzani is still the best regeneration story IMO.

[@jacklowe3037]

@@jonathandzwonar1637 I like Caves. But surly the best regeneration story is Logopolis with 4th doctor and the master. Absolute classic.

[@TheMarioAdams]

@@jacklowe3037 the best regeneration story is the War Games

[@mayotango1317]

@@jonathandzwonar1637 Because is written as a Fourth Doctor story by Robert Holmes.

[@zeddeka]

I remember watching this as a 5 year old when it was originally broadcast in 1982, and being enthralled. My sister was absolutely terrified of the Cybermen.

[@lucindabundy1887]

Loved the cyberman designs in this classic episode

[@thomasgary1219]

I love the noises these 80s cybermen make whenever they are hurt or dying, it's hilarious. If they Don't feel pain why do they cry out like that?

[@wackywaa1458]

Probably because the device that stops the emotions is destroyed when they are mortally wounded.

[@LordVanOskuro]

Love how the Doctor comments on how emotional Cyberleader is compared to some of his past brethren.

[@jellybabiesarecool4657]

The best thing about Earthshock and Attack of the Cybermen is how cunning and brutal the cybermen can be.

[@pannakinder7624]

"...you would be rather crumpled," line makes me laugh every time.

[@jamieolberding7731]

David Banks was perfect for the role as the extremely popular villainous Cyber-Leader. They should definitely bring him back to voice this iconic Cyber-Leader.

[@benlyon4739]

He has returned for two Cybermen stories produced by Big Finish Productions, Hour of the Cybermen with Colin Baker and Warzone/Conversion (this is a two story set) with Peter Davison.

[@jamieolberding7731]

@@benlyon4739 If they were to somehow ever bring David Banks back in live action Doctor Who, they'll have to have him do just the voice acting instead, while a stunt double plays the acting role..... am I right?

[@sslaxx]

@@jamieolberding7731 Ala Paul Kasey and Nicholas Briggs?

[@robvegas9354]

1980s cyberleader for the win. he was EXCELLENT!!

[@badwolf66]

The Cyberleader in this story is rather a sick sadistic and possibly psychotic individual, I don't think he was fully converted.

[@WertyQ543]

That’s the way David Wanted it I reckon because the higher the rank the less psychotic emotion was actually drained out of a cyber man Or they had the capabilities of re-establishing some small psychotic emotions

[@benwasserman8223]

I think it’s more like classic Cybermen personally repressed their emotions on top of the cyber augmentations. Whereas the new Cybermen are robotic in demeanor all the way through.

[@VillagerMan2006]

I like to think the Cyberleader from Revenge is the same individual as the Cyberleader here, hence why he says “We meet again, Doctor” This can be supported further by the fact that when the Cybermen look at the past incarnations of the Doctor, for the 4th Doctor’s the leader says “He defeated US in OUR attempt to destroy Volga” as opposed to when he talks about the 2nd Doctor “..That the Doctor confined the CYBERMEN to their ice tombs on Telos”

[@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475]

​@benwasserman8223 It's implied the Cyberleader has a stored hive mind consciousness. So when he's destroyed, his personality and characteristics are transferred when a mook is upgraded to Cyberleader. In Silver Nemesis, he even says to the 7th, "So Doctor, a new appearance? Otherwise, our anticipation of your presence has proved entirely accurate."

[@seanmulloy854]

I adore this story. But without getting too inside nerd, no true Cyberman would ever be this rich of a character. This is played like a Bond villain. But it works.

[@michaelpuglisi6767]

A great scene, Banks is a great antagonist- also a pity we don’t have the clip of the awesome scene of Tegan snatching that gun she’s holding here

[@friendlyotaku9525]

And in 10 days Tegan will not only be reuniting with the Doctor but facing the Cybermen once again, albeit Cybermen that are much more advanced than the ones she previously dealt with! So excited!!

[@SithMaster26]

One of my favourite doctors. Earth shock is one of the best.

[@scottybee8]

“ Are they all so dedicated? Compared to some, this one is positively flippant. “ “ They also enhance life. When did you last have the pleasure of smelling a flower, watching a sunset, eating a well prepared meal? These things are irrelevant. For some people, small beautiful events is what life is all about. “ “ I now have control over you, Doctor. All I need do is threaten the woman’s death for you to obey me. “

[@theentity5201]

Haha he got you there doc😆

[@jackhustwayte4567]

"You will be very crumpled"

[@hopebgood]

😉

[@michellehamilton8875]

5th Doctor sass at its finest.

[@theentity5201]

@@michellehamilton8875 cyberleader took the W with that "i now have control over you line" HAHA he got you there doc, RIGHT BACKATCHA balls back in your court doctor

[@CannonRanger1]

I miss the days when you could throw a gold necklace at Cybermen and they would fall down dead.

[@MecdiAn]

Calling them "Sir" after lecturing them is the 1st Doctorest thing the 1st Doctor has ever done.

[@MecdiAn]

that and the "I guess Polly isn't around..." but it's from the nova Who d:

[@frostycola42]

I think the older cybermen is better then the newer cybermen

[@bananasaregood8655]

Its gunna be interesting to see tegans reaction to having to face the daleks and cybermen again. Both stories hit her chatacter really hard, lot of deaths

[@the_kovic]

These are some excellent Cybermen! Cold, logical and calculating. Much better than the blindsided killing machines shouting "Delete!" of NewWho.

[@bri_____]

The concept of cybermen is terrifyingly relevant today 😱

[@kylelacey8036]

Emotions are not a weakness they help develop the person develop

[@MACGamer100]

Love doctor who!

[@IllusivePrime]

I thought the TARDIS had a system in place where all form of weaponary fire won't work.

[@viddysgamingviddyos4710]

I think the writers in the 80s just...decided to change that. Even Nyssa addresses the change in 'Arc of Infinity'.

[@michaelpuglisi6767]

Iiiit kinda comes and goes. I think it’s just a very faulty system

[@wackywaa1458]

This explains everything kzbin.info/www/bejne/rILUaHiGarKDgqs

[@ShatteredGlassUnicron]

How come they don't have a clip of Peter telling us to subscribe? Don't they have that for the other living doctors?

[@mysteriouschaos3849]

I know many people who are as adept at controlling others with emotion as the Cybermen.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Yeah they're called politicians. 😂

[@adrianmorris5546]

I love the Cyberleader the line compared to some this one is quite flippant I do love the old design of the Cybermen

[@thomasstevens2746]

brilliant story

[@SephoraBloons]

Fear is a superpower

[@jamesvanitas]

If you join up with Sinestro and his Corps…..

[@azurerainbow4637]

Odd that it hasn't been revealed how the Cybermen figured out that the Doctor is a Time Lord and that he travels in a TARDIS, and that he can regenerate, though he didn't tell them about his name in this adventure before they took control of the space freighter. The other times before this adventure he didn't tell them about his ship.

[@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475]

Well, they're not stupid, they probably figured it out.

[@herokyl3173]

The cybermen look more intelligent here

[@ecthox-1mork909]

Honestly, these "Cyberneomorph" types of Cybermen were always my least favourite. Partly because of the design or lack thereof below the upper-chassis piece, but also because of how in their debut they were emotionless in name only - in 'Earthshock,' the Cyberleader was just a Darth Vader expy riding off the success of 'Star Wars' and 'The Empire Strikes Back.'

[@spikeep6141]

*Time-Flight Episode 1* opens with *Nyssa, holding a pencil and notepad,* (whilst *failing to acknowledge her grief* ) closely shadowing The Doctor, *(doing likewise)* as he operates the console, following him around, verbally confirming with him in a somber tone of voice, as they quietly finishing off the main outstanding chore of *reading-off* all of the outstanding loose-ends that needed to be resolved, whilst *ticking them off* on a *’TO DO’* List; and yet, this had somehow never had occurred to me before now, but - *This is the first time when the TARDIS has a dead human body on the floor, which has to be returned, somehow, to Professor Kyle’s Family, accompanied by at least *some* form of explanation as to what the hell actually HAPPENED to kill their daughter, the PaleoGeologist, somewhere out far into Deep Space --

[@edmund184]

Beryl Reid!

[@dcikaruga]

Really silly looking at this now, but back then, I thought it was cool. 😁

[@tygerbyrn]

The borg before The Borg…

[@danielgeorgezlateff2036]

How many emotions?

[@Gamingdude1618]

Awesome 🤩👍⭐️👏💙😍😆😄😁😃👌💚🤖

[@nicholasxavier5892]

Did everyone wear wigs ?

[@thomassmith8140]

Don't get me wrong, I love Doctor Who, but you could tell why popularity for the show began to fall out of favor around this time. Compare the scene at 2:10 to other popular Sci-Fi media at the time, like Star Wars, Star Trek, Alien. Even by the standards of the time it was pretty....cheesy

[@alexhenderson1312]

@@FreeTheDonbas Reimagined Galactica is total garbage (most definitely NOT sci-fi at all!)!!🗑️💩👎

[@thompsonevergreen8006]

Can we all agree that the new doctor who needs to be written as doctor who and not yet another political agenda, we had all of that with Jodie we do not need to know about how because the doctor is now black for the first time that everyone hates him throughout history we do not need an episode where the doctor gets mad at people because of slavery or something, we do not need a history lesson on what happened to black people, the doctor is an ALIEN he is not black he's literally a semi polymorphic alien, we need episodes about the doctors adventures, everyone is well aware of the atrocities of history when we sit down to watch doctor who we want a fun, sometimes scary and funny, somewhat serious show, we do not need another series, like the millions that come out these days that have a political agenda that are trying to raise awareness about something we already have all of that just give us doctor who nothing more nothing lessm

[@kathrynwhitby9799]

as much as i was going to, i never got round to watching the Jodie Doctor.

[@friendlyotaku9525]

Doctor Who is and has always been political

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Not like this current version it hasn't.

[@friendlyotaku9525]

@@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 yes it has, perhaps even more so.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

@@friendlyotaku9525 Fine but the current writing and acting is absolute garbage.

[@willhorting5317]

I thought it at the time... and I still think so now, 40 years later...Nyssa (Sarah Sutton) concealed a nice little body under that outfit.😎 I may not have been a fan of her face. But I definitely was of her body.😁

[@BleachAnddy]

First viewer

[@SephoraBloons]

Nope

[@charliebarrett679]

1st

[@SephoraBloons]

Who cares