Documentary Editing Masterclass with Editor Steve Audette ACE at the Boston Avid User Group

Documentary Editing Masterclass with Editor Steve Audette ACE at the Boston Avid User Group.
If you enjoyed this masterclass check out this other video from Steve Audette:
• Steve Audette Document...
- I've done all I can to try to remove the interlacing in this file, but I think it was baked into the original I received.
Learn more from Steve in the further resources in this blog post:
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[@studio23producer]

Terrific information which is very helpful... his reference to David Mamet's "On Directing Film" caused me to start re-reading it. There are several gems of wisdom in just the first few pages. Thank you for sharing this Jonny!

[@poorvadinesh6448]

Wow! Wow! Wow! As an aspiring documentary editor, I've always found a dearth of learning material when it comes to documentary editing, and this one is full of gems from the start to the finish. Definitely the kind of stuff an editor will keep referring to. This masterclass really made my day. Thank you for uploading this :)! Its a gem.

[@JonnyElwyn]

Hey Poorva, glad you enjoyed it and all thanks goes to Steve for delivering it! You should definitely check out this post and the other resources in it. jonnyelwyn.co.uk/film-and-video-editing/learn-documentary-editing-from-professional-editors/

[@darylcampbell7775]

This guy is a genius.

[@marcowenzel3399]

Thank you for this inspirational Masterclass! So many helpful insights!

[@ray-mc-l]

love frontline docs, very interesting to see how theyre made

[@alesko5]

Excellent! Thank you so much for sharing this!

[@TheHabitRabbit]

Great presentation! Thank you for this super helpful breakdown!

[@dpanubhavscharma8197]

This is Priceless. Thankyou

[@M2008tw]

Funny with his comment about Premiere and that Avid should be more efficient. Avid is the hammer he knows and which probably fits into the workflow where a lot has to go through the sawmill. But the times I have worked with editors who have sat with Avid it has been pain upon pain. An interface reminiscent of Windows 95, a thing of the past - Premriere (with its flaws not to be forgotten) and DaVinci are in many ways more modern and can do more 🥳.

[@dcplyr]

He needs to write a book!

[@skiwebpt]

Great Masterclass... Thnks for share.

[@RumiSleem]

Educational and entertaining. Thanks for this!

[@KiranNembangtv]

Thank you!

[@markchesak3982]

“Look into the footage.” "Seeing" as one editor calls it.

[@jorgelopez9620]

Beaut and entertaining

[@janzened]

did he say he cut this film in 3 weeks? @33min. He also says it took 2 weeks to cut that 15min sequence.

[@brosephcash]

The way he spoke about final cut reminded me how much I don’t want to turn into a stubborn old man. I don’t even cut on FCP but I definitely wouldn’t be that pompous about it.

[@brosephcash]

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[@UKR636]

Agree. Unnecessary and fallacious. Avid is the default Hollywood NLE, but there are very accomplished storytellers using Premiere. He mentioned (and dismissed!) Deadpool, but also Fincher and the Coen brothers. And, c’mon… J- and L-cuts are pretty easy to define and ought not be lumped into the same thing. Similar, sure. The same? Nope. J-cuts are often used to prelap dialogue to help create a seamless transition between two (sometimes disparate) clips or scenes. But they are by no means ALWAYS necessary. I can think of smash cuts or dialogue where straight cuts between two people arguing would be more effective.

[@nickfalzone7955]

@@UKR636 Totally agree. Calling all "out of sync" cuts L-cuts is just not helpful. On a basic level, distinguishing them as J or L is extremely useful in terms of being exact (particularly if you are communicating this to another editor). And Avid is what it has always been, a stable, but unintuitive (and inefficient) software that old pros got used to and are too lazy to break away from. FCP7 and now Premiere have a WAY more intuitive editing interface that also has many more plug-ins and honestly can achieve so much more in a single timeline. Avid is old school, straight cutting, and designed to be fast and simple. If you want to do anything outside basic in/out/dissolve/cut then Avid is a pain in the a-s-s. Many many films are now cut in Premiere and some in Da Vinci. Avid is not bad per se but it is far from a dominant or user friendly design. It's main claim to fame in the 2000s was that it was more stable (ie would not crash) as often as Adobe, FCP, etc. But Adobe as of 2018 on has been very stable. It also has good features for team-editing. Avid editors are going the way of the dinosaur imo.

[@spookysea-monster5297]

He is a very talented editor for sure but he is also a pompous A-hole from knowing him personally.

[@eduschafer]

Why all the butthurt comments about what he said regarding final cut and premiere? Come on people, that's just banter, he's trying to be funny

[@onequestion4615]

Can anyone shed some light on when this was recorded?

[@JonnyElwyn]

You must have missed it but at 7 seconds into the video it says March 17, 2017

[@dcplyr]

"The big boy toy"

[@MrDjalalov]

46:20

[@marksummers666]

I love Steve's passion and the way he explains things, but man some of those stereotypical "old dinosaur editor" tendencies come through with all the Premiere/Avid nonsense. It's so condescending, and so misinformed as well. Avid has a _multitude_ of problems that Premiere solved a decade ago, and their resistance to change will almost certainly be their undoing. e.g. - Avid doesn't hold a candle to Premiere when it comes to auto-saving and recovering from crashes. I've lost so much work to unexplained Avid crashes I should've billed them for my time. (Also, that David Mamet book is a silly "get off my lawn" tome written by a curmudgeonly baby boomer who looks down on everyone who's not David Mamet. The lessons Steve alludes to are mere footnotes in the book and wouldn't have filled a post-it note.)

[@michaelmatiscik3468]

He is very talented at what he does. Yet, I never got the sense that in telling a story, he was interested in truth. He was more interested in telling a story from his perspective to impact the audience--be it true or not. That is manipulation--and that is what I see the media--including the movie industry doing today. Sadly people are swayed by those who choose the pictures.

[@nickfalzone7955]

It is more the producer's job to tell the truth, the editor in TV is not really the "director" as that would imply he has his hands in all aspects of product. Editor primarily is to make the story make sense and palatable to the audience. I agree Steve comes across as kind of greasy in this regard but that's what happens when you're cutting 11+ hours of network content in months - you look for ways to simplify the task, get to the meat, and often cut out meat. It is not an "artistic" or highly creative process like you might find in fiction/art cinema, or elsewhere. It is more of a craftsman-like approach. There is some creativity in these cable news docs, but it is more about just getting the product out in way that doesn't piss people off and gets decent ratings lol.

[@Chiefske]

Its a wonderfull sight watching dinosaurs still going hard on avid media composer

[@Khujandiho]

I'm an appliance repair technician. I was listening while fixing the refrigerator leak issue. I'm new on editing, mostly doing as a hobby. This is blowing information. A lot of techniques. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 thank you for your video. B.t.w. if your appliance has an issue.l feel free to contact 😊

[@dan_abrusci]

This was amazing!!

[@lamhorasproduction6063]

Thank you for uploading this. Very helpful. Not many good editing lesson we can see on KZbin. Love this one. Thanks again :)

[@speliotis]

How do you get around the copyright music in the video?

[@JonnyElwyn]

It has a copyright claim against it, which means I can't monetise it.

[@speliotis]

@@JonnyElwyn Hey Johnny, thanks for posting this editing workshop.. Truly a master.... My question was to mr. Audette using copyrighted music that is recorded at a convention in a piece that will be aired on TV... I guess thats why he has legal teams ...

[@andrewlutes2048]

7:40 “It’s only financially. That’s my only motivation here.” “Look, I’ll make you look good. Just keep paying me.” - This is more narrative service than investigative journalism. This is why the genre is in shambles.

[@MarkChesak]

It's called "tongue in cheek." Comedy is cleary in shambles.

[@KaimanaPine]

Thank you for this! Gems. Notes taken.

[@ylexisbutler4819]

Final cut is my fav til this day

[@nickfalzone7955]

Never used FCPX but old FCP up until 7.0 and now Adobe Premiere are significantly better interfaces (and faster) than Avid. The only reason to use Avid is because old school Hollywood TV and Film are used to it and find it to be "reliable". Compared to old school film cutting, Avid is a breeze - many of these 50 yr old + editors grew up with a much more difficult way to cut films. Avid now is obviously far superior - but compared to FCP7, Adobe Premiere, or even Da Vinci - Avid is way out of date. It is stuck in 1990s editing style with different modes to achieve different tasks. Premiere you can do anything at any time without any dumb mode switching. It is also far better as far as audio mixing and plug-ins.

[@Tejaroxy]

What he says about Premiere is ridiculous. Avid must appreciate his advertising ;o) Also, he criticizes Ken Burns and says he makes too much $$$, then 10 seconds later he says Ken Burns' new Vietnam series is "to die for". Sigh.

[@nickfalzone7955]

Good class and some great advice but too many asides, off topic, etc which is kind of surprising for an editor lol. Also disagree on Avid, which is full of out of date features. Yes it is stable, but the "mode" switching for different types of editing and the lack of intuitive design is trash. Avid is in many ways stuck in the 90s, but then again so are many editors.

[@ClickBaitMedia-co6vf]

Alot of info here !

[@llMick]

This is so badass and so educational, thank you guys so much