DODGE "LAST CALL" SCAM EXPOSED! THIS HURTS!

[@texsquirrel213]

Most cars are horrible investments. Buy it, drive it, enjoy it!

[@HansShackleford]

That's what i did

[@YouSoundButtHurt]

Sure but don't over pay, that's foolish.

[@fratzogmopars]

True. Putting a muscle car up on blocks and not driving it is like not screwing your girlfriend, you are just saving her for the next guy. Enjoy the car now.

[@joshua22099]

The vehicles that might appreciate in value most people don't want, can't afford, or isn't patient enough to wait vehicles tend not to appreciate until decades later

[@mikeprice8307]

​@@fratzogmoparsyou aren't supposed to with your gf until marriage anyways. You didn't buy her!

[@greganderson1989]

I got a call yesterday from a dealership that wanted to sell me a 2023 original body Challenger Hellcat jail break for 87k. He kept saying it’s a new car. I told him it two years old and not new. He said 87k was his bottom line. I told him good luck with that.

[@JoseVillegas-ip7qo]

Same. South Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram in Chicago is doing the same thing. They’d rather let it sit there than sell it.

[@Aceofspadez120294]

87 actually isn’t that bad for a “new” hellcat I know it’s 2 years old but nobody’s owned it they was going for 100k last year

[@greganderson1989]

@@Aceofspadez120294 it’s two years old and not new. Besides I already have a 2015 Hellcat and 2019 Redeye Challenger. I really don’t want a 23 model year. They are junk.

[@JoseVillegas-ip7qo]

@@Aceofspadez120294 been sitting for 2 years. 100% they barely moved it or even cared to start it. A good deal would be 70 OTD for a narrow body. Who is to say it’s not going to be a headache because of the sitting.

[@Aceofspadez120294]

@@JoseVillegas-ip7qo not gonna lie your probably not gonna find one for 70 OTD unless your wanna go used. But at that point spend the extra 10 for a new one

[@MusicMike747]

“Cars depreciate.” You said it. If anyone is trying to sell the idea of a vehicle purchase being an “investment”they are lying. And if it’s related to a Chrysler product? Criminally insane.

[@MatthewColorado]

"I'm a victim" No. You made a decision, went through with it. Live with it.

[@anoniomuniz]

@@MatthewColorado they saw you coming lol 😂

[@daleestep9518]

Yep

[@vermin1970]

Yeah, its a Dodge, not a Ferarri GTO who cares what it's worth in 30 years..

[@AnonYmous-hu7jo]

⁠​⁠@@vermin1970How pretentious.

[@Palkia8842]

He literally said he's gonna live with it...

[@hellomeatrobots]

Dodge spent 15 years cranking these things out like party favors. Anyone who believed the talk about any of these things appreciating in value was believing what they wanted to hear.

[@ROCKSTARMANIC12]

exactly. Its their cope mechanism being they know they got the short end of the deal overpaying for these regular vehicles. Joe shmo regular vehicles.

[@VaunShiz]

Yea hilarious how they think regular traffic was going to go up in value

[@ProfessionalClownWrangler]

Yeah. 70/71 ain’t happening again. The old E body challenger’s/cuda’s are worth what they’re worth because they were 4 year run only, and only two of those years saw the most desirable versions being produced. Most weren’t purchased as collectibles. They got used for their intended purpose. These have consistently rolled out of Canada by the truckload for 15 years. Even the later Hellcats had almost a decade run. I don’t even think the Demons will see much appreciation in value. Too few people had the means to experience the Demon for it to leave any sort of significant impression, and it’s not a car thats heavily referenced in pop culture. Most are put away. The ones that will probably be worth a good amount are those Direct Connection Super Stock cars that only exist in handfuls. Factory race cars always hold value.

[@scottysgarage4393]

There is some future for these cars. A majority are poorly optioned V6's. A majority regardless of drive train are abused. Most I see at auction are disasters. Beat to death, poorly repaired and generally treated like trash. Of course most vehicles are treated like that but these get a special dose of abuse. As they age they will also become increasingly difficult to maintain. The electronics are basically a death sentence. If I had to make a random guess I'd bet less than 10% of the hemi cars will still exist in 10 years... That *might* prop up some value.

[@kevinroark5024]

@@hellomeatrobots Fiat sure did from 2014-2023&in 23 a different FOREIGN business bought em.

[@Jdwescott]

I live in Wisconsin and six weeks ago got 20 Challenger 1320 with 6000 miles for 37k.When I walked in it had been marked down to 42k.The salesman made the mistake of telling me it had alot of lookers but when they realized it had drag radials and no back seat they didn't want it.I told them I was probably the last guy before winter that was ready to drive it home and I did.I got about 700 miles on it and just put it away for winter but I'm 59 years old and in the spring I'll be like a kid with a new toy.

[@Whaticansayaboutit]

Well played sir.

[@merc_raider]

Good Deal enjoy it next year!! What color?

[@HansShackleford]

I got a 14 5.7 charger and a 23 bge 6.4 and nag 1 for 8k

[@mdmoore1984]

which dealership? all the ones i see in Wisconsin are still way overpriced where they ask crazy money like around 45k for a 20 scat non widebody with 50k miles

[@Jdwescott]

Octane red

[@dave3657]

I’ve never worried about resale value when buying a vehicle.

[@NoName-c4y7h]

​@@JoseVillegas-ip7qoHe didn't say he overpaid for his vehicle, and if he's not selling it what difference does it matter what someone would pay for it? I don't pay MSRP, and could care less if I could make a profit selling it.

[@markurbancowboy]

Same here, I buy them to drive and enjoy.

[@briank.3539]

Right there with you. I don’t buy a vehicle and worry about depreciation. I buy them to keep them and enjoy the drive.

[@TecDLogic]

It’s always funny when you want the car of your dreams, you get people saying “no, don’t get it, resale value will decrease, you have a future, if you sell it you want get alot of money from it” They always act as if you will buy it, drive it for a while and then sell it, like buying a new iPhone every year 😂

[@TroyJetson901]

@TecDLogic real friends don't let friends purposefully make bad financial decisions without advising them of what they are signing up for. Real friends would always tell you wait 3 years or go CPO. This video is proof.

[@devonp5079]

Dodge is on Life support.

[@MrJintensive]

Code Blue.

[@mopargm9329]

Mopar has been doomed since Cerberus took over for 2 years. When you have a lending company that takes over a car company that's a bad sign from the start. And nobody mentions the Cerberus era of Chrysler it's like nobody knows about it or something. They always go from Daimler straight to Fiat but they never mention Cerberus LLC in the middle. I miss old Chrysler Corporation like the Chrysler LH cars. Like my old 96 Intrepid ES, 02 Dodge Intrepid R/T and 02 Chrysler 300M special. All of them were dead reliable💯🇺🇸

[@vegeta6555]

Good riddance.

[@armandorivera911]

When the sales manager started talking about how much I was going to get at the auction because of the last call badge I told him to stop or lose the sale on the spot 🤣🤣🤣

[@user-ex9zm7bg3x]

HA

[@emilianozapata_714]

Hahaha. Glad you saw past the B.S. cause a lot of other people fell for it.

[@caseymartin9881]

I bought a last call cat challenger in January of this year new for sticker.I never bought because I thought I was going to sell it. It’s my Sunday maybe car. I drive it with my 13 year old son. He loves it. He makes tick tocks about it lol . We bond with the car. He wants me to pass it down to him. It was so worth it to me. I only get him every other weekend. I wouldn’t trade it for anything just for that. Luckily it’s not my daily driver.

[@lottorabbit]

But… All new cars depreciate as soon as you drive them off the lot. NEVER PAY ABOVE MSRP.

[@MultiMilTown]

That's the point, but people are falling for this trick. The dealers are lying and convincing people otherwise

[@dronetestdaegan]

No they don't. Drive it for 10 years, don't sell it back immediately.

[@davidsc2978]

I always thought the "last call" was a marketing pitch to create demand and sell these cars overpriced. Unfortunately customers bought it hook, line, and sinker. Props to marketing team, it worked! Not so good for consumers. Hoping consumers have learned a few things about marketing and using less emotions when buying in the future.

[@Minister_Bussykhan]

They won’t get me again

[@mxrrss]

It’s like the Durango Hellcat. No clue if it’ll go anywhere but there’s currently a class action against them for advertising it as a 1 year production car but bringing it back in 2023

[@rockinthedadlife2244]

Cars are emotional purchases for me. Got a last call Charger for 40% off MSRP. I preserve my cars and it will always be last of the breed. 😊

[@robertellison4691]

Who in their right mind believes what a car salesman tells them? They rank up near the top of the list with lawyers as being known to be the biggest liars of all time. In essence, lying is their job.

[@ronk2577]

I sold cars for 7 years.Playing into there hand saying Hell it's probably going way up who knows sounds good to me,not a total lie.

[@johncarter1137]

My problem is the Dodge dealers wouldn't be reasonable and kept prices high, and I gave up and bought a bass boat. They can keep their high-priced lot rot.

[@robertnagel337]

@@johncarter1137 you bought a boat? You certainly are a glutton for depreciation.

[@gregbuze9143]

Lol !! Fuck Dat !! Bassboat = Peace and Tranquility !! Everybody don't know 💯 😂

[@Getoffyourassandgetyours]

@@robertnagel337 He won In reality if he lives by a nice lake in a region with good weather and enjoys fishing.Shit give me that all day.

[@hank1556]

@@johncarter1137 went from one boat to another 😂

[@BobbyGee-c7z]

Two weeks ago I bought a Challenger Swinger in Sublime for 49,900 with 4k miles on it. Such an amazing car, love the 6speed. Ive wanted one for more than 10 years, finally got it.

[@pedrohizzle2835]

Where?

[@gwoo39617]

Congrats!.....sick automobile, especially with the 6sp, look into getting a Barton short throw shifter

[@ronk2577]

Happy trails 😅😅😅

[@BBBILLY86]

July got a Last Call Sublime Green Scat Pack TA 64K sticker plus 3k claw back. 30 miles on car. They had 16 of them in showroom at the time. Got 22k off sticker so 45k which included tinted windows, wheel locks, nitrogen tire BS. Drove it up the East coast this summer and went to dozens of car shows. Love this car at 45k brand new with 7 year warranty.

[@pedrohizzle2835]

Where

[@aarg2609]

😮😮😮

[@BBBILLY86]

@@pedrohizzle2835 Tampa FL

[@naturallawman2965]

Saw several of these when inventory was still high, and prices were around $45k OTD for Scat's. I passed on one, perfect car, thinking I could get a T/A from another dealer for the same price. The Scat dealer told the truth. The 392T/A dealer lied and tried to get me in financing. By the time I got back to the Scat dealer... it was sold. The absolute best price, currently, I've seen have been around $45k-46k OTD, and that was a unicorn. I've been trying to duplicate the deal I missed out on since, and the dealers JUST WON'T BUDGE. Challengers have been on the lots for 2 years and they still want $50k+. It's crazy.

[@VinceMcCarverJr]

I don't believe you. markup is only about 5k on those and there where hardly any incentives from the manufacturer. your math doesn't work unless it was a used car. the sticker wouldn't matter on those anyway because it's a used car. but you said it was new, so i think you're lying.

[@bluesman7475]

Just keep driving it. After 15 years depreciation will not be a problem. Most of my cars, I drive 20 years.

[@hq21]

"Most" of your cars? Do you usually own multiple cars at the same time or are you like 140 years old? If the latter, would love to hear about that '04 Cadillac you traded in a hundred years ago!

[@ElevatedAgenda]

@@bluesman7475 Drive a Mopar for 15 years? Good luck.

[@robertnathan2843]

​@@ElevatedAgendaI have a '20 charger RT, '03 Acura TL, '07 Buick Lacrosse, '90 regal custom, long term and purchased used, and oh yea,...'93 Plymouth acclaim. 😂. Not financial investment. Just for transportation and enjoyment.

[@Leon1249BA]

@hq21 daily drives about 5 cars since '87

[@bronson2585]

That POS will be riddled with problems in 2 years 😂

[@Firehawk95]

Most people don't buy these cars and then obsess about the resale value unless they are paying off a huge loan.

[@no7sdiceclub007]

I special ordered a 2023 Dodge Challenger Hellcat from a dealership in July of 2023. After 7 months the dealership called me to let me know they have my car. I went to the dealership to finish the deal. We agreed back in July sticker price for the car. When I went there, they wanted 5k dollars more called it a lug nut charge. After walking away from the deal and losing my 2500 dollar deposit on the car. I turned around and bought a 2016 Laguna Blue 3LZ Z06 Corvette with 15k miles. Only 25 Vettes made like that for that year. I was very bitter about losing my custom car and 2500 dollar deposit. But after watching this video, they did me a favor. I think the Vette was a lot better purchase than the Hellcat. Thank you for the update, I plan on buying a 2027 ZR1 Vette. I will probably never buy or try to buy a Dodge again. They lost what could have been a very loyal customer. Never buy a car from Voyles Dodge of Birmingham

[@mindblownwatcher8536]

@@no7sdiceclub007 Corvettes are a much higher level of driving experience. Congratulations!

[@no7sdiceclub007]

@mindblownwatcher8536 Thank you, I love every minute I drive the Vette. It was hard to understand at the time why the Hellcat deal did not work out. But a month later, the Vette deal literally dropped in my lap. Sometimes, things don't work out, but a better deal is around the corner. Thank you for the comment

[@848evo4]

why did you loose your deposit? they changed the deal that was agreed upon, they owe you the deposit back.

[@mrfuriouser]

I would take them to small claims court, at minimum. Up to $6000 and no attorneys allowed. A spoken contract is still a contract. A few hours of work on your part to tell your story and let the judge decide. You've nothing to lose! It may even be cathartic to get a resolution, regardless.

[@no7sdiceclub007]

@848evo4 I fought them over 3 months for my 2500 dollar deposit, and they refused to give me back my deposit. I am in the process of making a claim with BBB of Birmingham with the dealership. I was a master Ford salesman for 6 years. We never kept one deposit on anybody. Horrible dealership, Volyes Dodge of Birmingham

[@michaelthebarbarian3380]

I bought mine brand new, not because I think it would go up in value... but because I love these cars and wanted my ideal spec before they went out of production.

[@RichieRich7339]

🎉 and there's nothing wrong with that! Keep it looking good!

[@SoulTouchMusic93]

well done sir! i hope you'll enjoy it for a long time!

[@michaelthebarbarian3380]

@@SoulTouchMusic93 I plan on it doubling as a casket. lol

[@No_Fox_Given_]

Same here. Been wanting a Challenger since 2008, and especially since the 2014 refresh. When Last Call was announced I knew it was now or never to order my spec 2023. I also didn’t want a beat up used one

[@michaelthebarbarian3380]

@@No_Fox_Given_ Yup, don't ever buy a used 392 or 6.2. lol

[@Dellonidas]

I paid 39k for a Daytona 392 in 2017. Sticker was 51k. I miss those days

[@LokiSadie]

I can not believe that a car dealer actually convinced buyers that a new car was going up in price when you drive it new of the lot.Covid showed this big business that sheeple will believe anything they say..

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

No wonder STELLANTIS was so profitable. They figured out how to get people to pay 100% over sticker.

[@mattbarker1411]

They reported a 24% drop in revenue, wtf are you talking about?

[@YouSoundButtHurt]

@@mattbarker1411 he said WAS profitable. He's not wrong.

[@Reptitude]

The dealer makes that mark-up, Stellantis gets no part of it

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

@@mattbarker1411 Ummm you do realize they were at RECORD PROFIT and then began a decline right? You should delete your comment before anyone else sees it.

[@kevinroark5024]

@@PassportBrosBusinessClass FIAT was from 2014-2023

[@gideonbraver9468]

Just bought a Hellcat Challenger 2023 Jailbreak that sat for a year on the lot for 65k +tax. Sticker was 84K. Had only 11 miles on it.

[@ronk2577]

That's how you buy a car

[@DonC-d6p]

I’m proud to say I own a 2023 LastCall Hellcat Widebody Jailbreak. Didn’t buy it thinking I could flip it to make money. That would’ve been stupid. I didn’t buy it thinking I was going to blow every other car off the road. That would’ve been delusional. I bought it because it’s a beautiful vehicle and truly the very last of the true American muscle car. I wanted one when the Challenger was reintroduced back in 2008. So glad I waited till the very last year model. I gladly paid MSRP. Got it when there were plenty of choices on the lots so I got exactly the color and options I wanted. Didn’t have to settle for something just because it’s all they had. I will keep it stock. I will pay it off. I will own it outright. It’s garage kept. PPF with ceramic coating. Never driven in the rain. Never driven at night. I intend on keeping the mileage very low. I only drive it on clear sunny weekends and usually driven to car shows. There are plenty of people that have never seen a Hellcat in person, and are excited to see mine on display. A year later I still get excited when I take it for a spin. It’s a treat when I drive it since it’s not a daily driver. Love that new car smell even a year later. I will keep it for as long as I am alive and will pass it on after I die. It’s the first MOPAR I’ve ever owned and it will be the last.

[@chrisss9991]

Wise man, respect brotha

[@godfreyberry1599]

@@DonC-d6p Makes sense to buy a car you NEVER drive.

[@godfreyberry1599]

@@DonC-d6p Makes sense to buy a car you NEVER drive.

[@kondor99999]

I’ve heard it’s impossible to find spare parts for these cars. Stellantis wants to push everyone to EVs.

[@Olde-Raleigh-Shoppe-NC]

I'll keep my paid for mint condition 2005 Toyota Corolla LE. It cost $77 per year property tax, $225 per year insurance, $480 per year in gas. It is great for A to B, and will go all the way to Z and back if needed. I'll invest my money in precious metals, with no regrets years later.

[@bdc211]

but some people would rather choose to have the experience of driving fast and hotrodding, than collecting metal for money exchange... nothing wrong with being a hobbyist with money.. focusing on money and markets, etc... but some people dont find that fun... they find buying a hotrod fun... i piss money down my leg on speakers all the time... i dont feel i lose when i resell for less... the experience i had with it was worth what i lost in financial value... 🤷

[@ehlani6677]

what the hell are you doing on a muscle car channel? to be insufferable?

[@biffbastion301]

I'm with ya brother. Keeping my 2008 GT500 (ex show car) with over 600hp I paid 26k for and has 30k on the clock. One of the best performance deals out there....if you can drive a manual :D

[@alexanderrogge]

A Dodge dealer tried to tell me that I could buy a Last Call car and sell it for more than I paid for it, and also suggested that depreciation didn't exist for Last Call. I'm still not interested in spending what was the MSRP for a Charger or Challenger in 2022 for a pre-owned car that is now two years old.

[@moonbeamskies3346]

In my view, you buy the car because you want it at the price you can get it. You cannot beat yourself up unless you thought it would increase in value. You get your money's worth by owning the car. Drive it. Look at it. Sit in it. Whatever makes you happy.

[@abcabc-xm4um]

I ordered my 2023 widebody challenger scat pack shaker in October of 2022, paid msrp upon delivery in June of 2023 and I could not be happier. In another market or another car I likely could have done better on price, but I love this car. I continue to intend to keep it.

[@rahh3602]

I do not understand why anyone would collect this car. Regardless of whatever they call it each year, every hoodbooger in my city has been driving a version of this car since 2008. The police are even driving these things around..

[@rrpence21]

Maybe because hemis are done and the other options out there are trash. Want an ev? Nope. Hurricane inline no. Vette zr1 for 250k naw. An escalade V 670 hp for 170k 😆 🤣 😂 Just because tarppers and rappers use these cars means absolutely nothing.. It's ok Karen everything gone b alright. Just hide if you get nervous 🫡

[@VMD9]

Hellcat will gap what ever you drive

[@rahh3602]

@@VMD9 lol , it's sad but my Family 4 door eats up Hellcats for breakfast, lunch and dinner. 🤣🤣

[@rahh3602]

@@rrpence21 The cars you mentioned are not hoodbooger cars. Dodge Challenger/charger absolutely is. Go to any auction, all the repose are piling up. Might be able to pick one up with 112 month payment plan🤣🤣 Make sure no one steals it in front of your mom's apartment🤣🤣

[@deneilwilliams4380]

​@@rahh3602 Real Talk 👀👂🏿 💪🏿🪖❤️💪🏿

[@TheK9rocker]

Brad - I just picked up a '23 R/T (Last Call) that had 900 miles on it and was never sold. The original dealer in Arkansas couldn't sell it (apparently 6 speed manuals are harder to sell down south - what do I know?) and he auctioned it to a dealer in NJ where I jumped on it immediately. With the Blacktop package, sunroof, 8 inch screen, Alpine, etc. the original sticker was 48 and change, which the sticker was still in the glove compartment, and I walked away with it for 38 (10 grand off !!). They wanted like 41.5 but were looking to move it and I was willing to walk (or was I?) Anyway, right time, right place and brand new - not a mark, complete with new car smell and everything. Great channel !! Btw, didn't buy it for the investment but I'll still own it in 30 years and even if it swings back up hard, I'm keeping it.

[@PatDotter]

I got my 2021 scat pack TA 392 widebody and over paid, by the time it was done I paid over $70,000 . The only reason I bought it was I got zero interest on it. I still love my car it just sucks that they stuck us like that. So now instead of buying a new car every few years , I will just keep this and drive it on my Sunday drive. Only In good weather. And I don't give the dealership my maintenance business. Have two Ram trucks and a Dodge grand caravan. They don't get to do the oil changes on . I am retired so I don't need to get anymore vehicles and if I do we will see what I will get. I have owned Dodges and loved them .

[@gwoo39617]

Same here, only reason I purchased my loaded '22 WBSP6SP T/A was the 0%/36mths, just paid it off 2 weeks ago, love the freakin' thing, $18,250.00 for my '11 R/T Classic 6sp trade-in......$64,300.00 MSRP, I got it for $60k OTD @0%.....DONE!

[@ericmaclaurin8525]

I'll never figure out how people got conned into thinking cars get more expensive as they age.

[@itzyaboybugz]

It’s surreal working at a Dodge dealer and not having any charger or challengers for sale anymore One left over Hellcat Durango and One left over Challenger WB

[@N4CR]

enjoy it while it is still there

[@itzyaboybugz]

@ the last Durango hellcat I sold I made 150 mini and 5% back end Times have changed lol I want them gone

[@JGSnipes]

Who would’ve thought that paying huge markups for what were essentially sticker packages on otherwise standard cars would backfire? 😂

[@ItsBlurrs]

there is still a dodge charger swinger for sale near me "brand new" and they still are asking $66k for it

[@okbc1864]

The first example had a salvage title too, so it should be even less

[@davidshettlesworth1442]

Thanks for an excellent video. I like your terminology, "Buying a new car is like catching a falling knife" an excellent description. Carry On Sir!

[@BBDragon66]

At least you got out from under the Demon 170. I got a 8k mile used Sublime "Last Call" M6 R/T Challenger used at a great price as far as I was concerned. I wanted the Shaker, but they just sold the one I came 3 hours to look at after telling me it was there. I think that being completely pissed that they told me the car was there allowed me to beat them down on the nearly identical R/T (less the Shaker). I am just enjoying it and I didn't get it for the supposed collectors reward. If I get like you and start to crave more HP, I may trade up to a Hell Cat in the future. I will expect to lose money on the trade then, but the Hell Cats are dropping and I would be happy with any of them from 2019 and up as I prefer the dual intake hood style.

[@pedrohizzle2835]

He sold the demon?

[@markstone5900]

Glad I waited. I got my 2023 swinger about 6 months ago. It's exactly like yours but mine is a darker green with the old school gold wheels and shaker scoop. I paid like $59, 000 for mine. Original MSRP was like $68,300.

[@justsomeone6835]

Its a car no one is victim like you said we all know they depreciate drops like a rock

[@TKsGarage]

Crazy to see how much they have dropped. It’s crazy the cars are dropping in price like the stock price of stellantis

[@LearningFast]

Nothing depreciates quicker than a Tesla. A $60k Model 3 Performance was worth half that after only 2.5 years and only 25k miles.

[@michaelbaja1854]

Spend your money on a Plymouth Superbird if you want a classic Dodge product. There are too many of the new Challengers and Chargers to really be investments (stupid badges or not). Maybe in the long term (if you keep them pristine in a plastic bubble), but nobody can really tell what is going to happen a couple of decades from now.

[@naturallawman2965]

Exactly. I've tried to tell people & dealers this and they roll their eyes. Love the cars, but there's too many of them to be "classics".

[@DavidMatsukiyo]

I was one of the lucky ones when I bought my 2019 Redeye!! In 2019 The Dodge dealer was offering 6k off MSRP. They weren't going to give me a good trade in value for my BMW X5 so I told them I was going to sell the BMW on my own. A couple weeks later Dodge offered $10 off per horsepower $7,970 for a Redeye. So with the dealer 6k off plus the $7970 Dodge was offering I got my Redeye $13,970 off sticker. The sticker was 92k, I got mine for 78k plus tax and license!!!

[@gwoo39617]

Great Deal~

[@Palkia8842]

Thinking that cars that are known for getting ragged on, crashed, stolen, and repossessed, are gonna appreciate in value is crazy.

[@richaardddd]

My experience with car shopping online they have the price lower online and then when you go in person they want way more

[@mayosturgell4474]

The ole bait n switch game

[@davidx4590]

EXACTLY!

[@ericmichel3857]

Did you see how long some of those cars have been for sale? That's not what's happening this time. A lot of people are defaulting on their overpriced car loans, and the economy is tanking, and it's going to get a lot worse. You can actually get them for less than advertised price now, the COVID markup days are long gone.

[@Mark-et8vh]

I watch another channel where Sales Managers are getting calls from people who have not learned their lesson. In one case, the customer called to trade in his 2020, for a 2019 Raptor. He was $35,000 and change upside down in his car and was at a 17.8% interest rate, $1700 a month payment, with $5k down. He actually thought with a 608 credit score, he’d get a deal. People are not learning. I’ve seen dozens and dozens of these calls.

[@Papolucho702]

I’m like 20k upside down on my car. Low rate, just paying garbage loan deficit from previous car. I am enjoying the shit out of my current car though. Just took it to the dry lake bed, so fun!

[@mojoron]

It's still a Dodge. In five years you'll have a car with bubbling paint, leaky weather stripping and it will spend six weeks in the shop because if you use the left turnsignal when it's less than 46 degrees Fahrenheit the car dies and it sounds like mumbled gypsy curses coming from the glove box. And oh yeah, that part you need is on "engineering review" so that six weeks has magically become the entire summer. I somehow own three Chrysler products and if two of those didn't have the forever factory warranty I'd have zero

[@DzenanA-m6h]

With everything Stellantis is going through I’m surprised people still open their wallets for their cars! You know their cars are bad quality

[@MALIK-fk1rz]

i mean every car is bad quality these days lol

[@cfr3830]

I2 purchased a last call destroyer gray shakedown and got it at sticker and I'm driving it I did not buy it for an investment, I'm enjoying the hell out of it

[@midwesternfellowship1237]

Many of those are salvage titles, including the grey one from "Cabrera's".

[@Theycallmekenney]

you buy a car from "Cabrera" you gonna get what you deserve lol

[@0004612]

Yes, probably theft recovery cars and they still want clean title money

[@Floppy_Toppy]

Unless it is an actual classic, it's not worth it. As an investment standpoint. Hellcats are the poor man's sports car. The only one winning is the dealership that sold you a car that's going to fall apart a few years later.

[@impactthroughmylenz]

No Dodge on earth will ever go up in value again😂😂😂😂😂

[@MH-so9oz]

I willing to bet my 2k mile Gen V Viper will.😊

[@expectnolove9978]

In 20-30 years when most are destroyed, they will surely go up.... My dad never thought his 69 dart swinger would never be worth what it is today... it's a 340 not even the rare Hemi

[@danielfair4675]

​@MH-so9oz reality is, you'll be pushing up dirt by then.

[@MH-so9oz]

@@danielfair4675 Actually the reality is I bought my Gen V back in 2015, when Dodge couldn't give them away. I paid significantly less than MSRP. Today, the car only has 2,500 miles, so I'm confidant it would easily sell for that. Probably more.

[@Crazy8ts]

Yup it will be 15-20 years and the surviving last call.hemis will be worth a retirement payout until then though these will continue to depreciate mainly because of the image of the demographic that makes up the ownership pool....street take over groups that have single handedly fckd up the car scened crashing into people and running people over on weekends ...I mean how the fck did it get to this point how do these kids even afford these hemi cars

[@HeinrichEichmann]

That seller with the gray widebody with the salvage title is delusional if he thinks he is going to get $44,495 for a car that was totaled. One thing about these high-powered Mopars and also Ford Mustangs that don't do turns well is always get a CARFAX AND an independent inspection from a qualified body man before you buy.

[@armandorivera911]

My new 23 HC MSRP was $82K and I paid $68K

[@pedrohizzle2835]

Where

[@armandorivera911]

@ Tampa

[@bigheavy12]

Great video and thank you, just got my 2023 last call challenger 392 . No big mark up and traded my 2020 392 challenger. Triple nickel color, love it

[@jermaineogarro2124]

So u traded for the same car lol

[@naturallawman2965]

​@@jermaineogarro2124 which meant the deal was virtually irrelevant.

[@bigheavy12]

Just love the 392 challenger, and wanted that last call plate

[@josorzo11]

The insurance for this is crazy high here in California, to the point it makes no sense

[@KetoCaNa]

@@josorzo11 these people don’t have insurance 🙃

[@mikewalters8253]

A Challenger 170 sold at auction with only delivery miles sold on Mecum for 125k

[@gbedmonds1594]

Bought a 2023 wide body hellcat jailbreak for 65k will never sell it. 390 miles.

[@pedrohizzle2835]

Where

[@sdurick457]

How many miles ?

[@OneGodal]

Cap

[@187live]

@@gbedmonds1594 🧢

[@Albebacck]

The financing company so happy u keeping the miles low

[@godsspeedify]

This is why i did not buy any last call Dodge. These prices were outrageous Dodge was getting out of the market maybe 25 years from now the prices will go back, but I will not buy until I feel it.

[@lindseyyah1]

Stellantis overpriced junk

[@robertellison4691]

@@lindseyyah1 That's an understatement. It is unbelievable how some people spend their money so foolishly.

[@stevenbean9706]

let stellantis eat it all

[@e00032r]

Why junk?

[@blu3.7mustang19]

Bought a NEW 2023 jailbreak narrowbody 717 hp otd for about 77,000 in river oaks Houston Texas Kirby rd. Not sure if I got screwed or not. I feel like I got a good deal at the time in the end of june. Got about 2k miles on it. Feel like it’s a descent deal I expect depreciation. I don’t think I got as screwed as everyone else I think I’m lucky. I enjoy the car and I know it’s not gonna go up in value, but I’m definitely going to enjoy it.

[@JailbrokenKAT807]

Got my redeye jailbreak 2022 for 89k with 800 miles therey brought it fown from 96k so i sai why not. Im just glad I didnt pay 140k it like i was planning to do lmao

[@1415Challenger]

still waiting for the TRX prices to come down more.

[@naturallawman2965]

Talked to a GM dealer a few months ago, and he said the TRX prices will only drop so far. He said the industry insider thing is they think they'll be "collector's items". I know... it's stupid. How & why they think they'll hold on to a truck to a point it's 3 years old and lot rotted, but still worth $125k. It's illogical.

[@RonRon18470]

The last call badge seemed like a scam excuse for dodge to sell over market to give people the illusion that they’re getting something rare and special. I bought a ‘22 392 T/A fully loaded, 714 miles for 45k. Great deal for the mileage, year, and was in impeccable condition. It was just sitting on the lot. I keep it in a garage, but when I do drive it, I drive any and everywhere. No regrets, I’m getting my moneys worth.

[@TheEngine-q5h]

I think I got a fair price for a 29 mile 2023 WBSP M6 in Octane Red. 51K with MSRP at 65k.

[@GAsh0012]

@@TheEngine-q5h you just bought it? New? Can I ask where?

[@livinglife3230]

Scat pack….

[@TheEngine-q5h]

@@GAsh0012 In June, Ramey Dodge in WV. Flew down from Illinois and drove it slowly back covered in blue painters tape.

[@GAsh0012]

@@TheEngine-q5h 51k out the door? That's pretty decent... I can't decide if I want the nb or wb

[@TheEngine-q5h]

@@GAsh0012 56 after illinois taxes. But get the WB, they are just 100% badass. I never tire of looking at this car, plus the 305s front and rear and slightly beefed up suspension, not to mention I rarely see another WB, even in Chicagoland, they're a win.

[@graymustang]

I been saying this lol imagine thinking a mass produced car is special because of a last call badge 😂 I seen last call jailbreaks with only 5-10k miles going for like 87-95k. You can get a redeye for like 60-70k

[@frankgonzalez7476]

If you live in CA and are shopping out of state, please ask the dealer to check the sticker under the hood.

[@raymco5]

This. Great reminder. I've been focusing on cars in CARB states now. At least based on my asking, cars in the other states always seem to be non CA-emissions compliant. Why did Dodge this is odd. More odd is the So. Cal. dealer I called advertising a '22 Challenger HC with Carfax history showing FL and VA history. Sure enough it's not CA compliant.

[@mrfuriouser]

​@raymco5 DODGE DIDN'T "DO THIS;" CALIFORNIA DID. Your State CANNOT continue to dictate what the other 49 can do or have. It's about time corporations learned this.

[@raymco5]

@@mrfuriouser I hear and understand your ire. California, however, does not 'dictate' what other states adopt for their vehicle emissions. CARB was created in the '60s (by then Governor Ronald Reagan by the way) to combat L.A.'s smog problem and over the years other states have decided to adopt the CARB standard. So instead maybe go be angry, er, furious, at the increasing number of states (maybe your state too?) who have chosen to be in the CARB club. Be much simpler to have one emissions standard for all 50 states of course. In the meantime and maybe there's an added cost or complexity but not sure why Dodge and other OEMs (not just picking on Dodge) don't just make all their cars CARB compliant.

[@carsinruin6102]

Dodge has done a great job at marketing. Paint jobs, decals, and body kits. They look awesome and they convince people they are getting a premium product. Challengers and Chargers are dept traps for 30-60y/o males.

[@kevin122759]

No car is a good investment. I did get lucky in 2012, bought a 2006 Pontiac GTO for $6500. The previous owner was forced to get rid of it as he lost his license. I still have the car. Current value is $18,000. It is a scat pack killer.

[@grad0n]

@@kevin122759 looks better too!

[@AK.__]

This is the same what will happen eventually after some time with these last editions. Just need to wait maybe 5 maybe 10 years and keep the car if not untouched then atleast in excellent shape.

[@kevin122759]

@@AK.__ It could happen. A lot has to do with supply and demand. I got a gto because I like it, not because of its collectability. A good collector car would be 2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP coupe, very limited production, very hard to find. They hold their value.

[@95Sn95]

You can keep those lizzo cats, you know what you could do with half that? You could pick up a nice used 392 SRT8 Challenger with under 20k miles for under $30k toss a used Whipple or procharger injectors, F pump and a tune at it you have a sweet big HP hot rod that would hang or gap a hellcat for $40k +/- pennies on the dollar, prob wouldn't eat a rod bearing like the D 170s

[@garrettsmith2654]

Maybe if you had your Dodge Challenger for 20 years, it would be worth a lot of money. You shouldn't be trading it in in 3 years. No wonder the Dodge you got is devalued. I'd keep the thing for at least 20 years if i were you, Brad.

[@ocmotivator]

LOL, good idea! Hope I'm still here in 20 years!

[@godsspeedify]

13:49 it said it had two previous owners and they want $107,000

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

If not for insurance premiums, the Hellcats would be moving better.

[@pmoracing7205]

@@PassportBrosBusinessClass what’s everyone paying?

[@livinglife3230]

Yeah I’m paying 250/month & it ain’t new!

[@danielfair4675]

​@@livinglife3230I pay higher insurance cost on my '21 Subaru Crosstrek Limited than I do on my loaded manual c6 GS Vette convertible.

[@SovereignKnight74]

The only cars to go up in value are classics. These modern cars... who knows in the future? For the present... Nope! Great video, Brad!

[@esteban1487]

At least you got an ICE car and not an EV.

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

I have a ton of friends who are in 5.7's scat pack's demons and widebody's.. And honestly they all dumped aftermarket parts too on top of the prices they spent from dealer's.. I still think they are all crazy.. Especially when there were Camaro's and Mustangs for less and all these cars were close enough in power, That I couldn't justify that Scat Pack Tax.... Especially when their were Shelby's and ZL1's out there for less money that really hold their value.. Look all cars will drop thats just how it is.. But what dodge did to people was sickening...

[@loki_wolff]

If you like it then it's worth it. Just make sure to not spend out of your actual limit. To me the Camaro is ugly and the mustang doesn't seem that special. Just do what you like and never listen to others

[@Dryloch]

Going to Disney now is just as bad as paying MSRP for a V6. Universal is killing Disney, especially with Epic Universe opening next year.

[@TheElephantRoom1]

According to a loan officer: Cars lose most of their value in the first three years of existence. This is why they set most lease terms for three years. Shopping for a used car in 2024 means you should set your sights in the 2020-21 range.

[@Mr_57ChargerRT]

@6:44 $44k with a (SALVAGE TITLE )

[@naturallawman2965]

Yeah. All of these Car KZbinrs were DEAD WRONG on prices dropping this fall. Now they're using used cars to make their point. The dealers won the war. FOMO and rich guys buried the common man on buying these. Was it the dealers & Stealantis? Yes. But buyers didn't hold the line, either.

[@VaunShiz]

@@naturallawman2965only dealers are making money for these cars, but did you see how long they’re sitting on lots ? The floor plan cost to keep cars like that on the lot that long , even if they sell them over priced they’re not making much money.

[@stevetringl858]

I have a 2023 Super Bee. I love it and am not worried about it. It goes with my 2007 Sublime Charger Daytona just fine.

[@luisem214]

I’m depressed and haven’t watched the video yet 😂

[@tymobyrne4451]

If it makes you feel better money lost value too over the same time period.

[@wisam111]

I ordered a brand new challenger hellcat jail break last call. After waiting for it for like 6 months they told me that they wanted to charge me a markup of 25k so it would’ve been 95k before fees and taxes I told them they can keep it. It was a sublime green with black wheels and black racing stripes. I was pissed

[@MALIK-fk1rz]

they said hold onn this car nice af 😂

[@wisam111]

@ lmao they wouldn’t come off the markup except by 1k I was like dude this sucks cause I really wanted this car but I ain’t paying 95k for it you guys can keep it.

[@brucegaines2480]

I purchased a 2023 300C paid 3K over msrp. I am ok. I bought to drive, not an investment. So I'm ok. I really love this car

[@questmarker8335]

dodge is dead get a c8

[@livinglife3230]

That’s the route I went, lol

[@VitalityGracieGarage]

I'll wait until I can get a fully loaded 2023 challenger scat pack with 20,000 miles on it for 25 K. Won't be more than another year. I agreed with OCMotivator from the start on this in late 2022 and I'm grateful that I listened to him. Saved me 30 grand, and I already have a 2019 scatpack for now anyhow so I'm good.

[@jaylambert5915]

Dude stop. Do you enjoy the car? That’s all that matters

[@cjsnylons]

Leno and Seinfeld buy cars as investments. The rest of us need to buy what we want and enjoy it. If you don't lose a lot of equity or somehow gain some, great. But no one should use this as a buying strategy. I bought my fully loaded C8 Z06 (minus CF Wheels) for a tick under MSRP and I am sure it is already worth less than I paid for it. BUT I got the exact car I wanted, so I will drive it and enjoy it.

[@XSimpleTruthX]

I went to buy a last call hellcat. I found a deal on one and when I got to the dealership (120 miles from home) I found a '22 5K under sticker and loaded. A $10K difference is huge to me. I found the last call label to be a gimmick after the markups.

[@js_392]

Got a Daytona 392 last call two weeks ago brand new off the showroom so no lot rot, no rust on the rotors or anything,12k off msrp

[@WICKEDfsho44]

Same my brakes are so clean on my challenger scat pack 2023

[@SPANKA.]

Thank you for that value. You just taught the ropes to negotiating on cars. Didn’t know how to before; I was just gunna give the asking price like an idiot.

[@zerep11]

My Wife and I bought a brand new 2023 Dodge Charger Scat Pack 'Super-Bee' (Non-Wide Body) that listed for $61.3K for a straight forward price of $53.8 plus TTL two weeks ago. Moreover, the dealership that we bought it from still has five brand new 2023 Dodge Charger Non-WB Scat Packs left as of this post ... Black, Sinamon Stick, Plum Crazy, and two in Blue Pearlcoat.

[@jorgerodrigogomezflores5711]

A couple months ago I made a 120k offer for that black ghost listed there for 130k but it was turned down, I really wanted a custom ordered Redeye but the pricing on those was just wild a year ago. I ended up settling for a new Widebody Hellcat at a bit under MSRP since I couldn’t find a black of blue 2023 Redeye in my price range and the time to bring it to my country was running out (you can’t import cars older than 2 model years). I didn’t got exactly what I dreamed, but other than the engine and some smaller things, it has almost all the options I wanted, and since I plan to keep it, depreciation isn’t an issue.

[@jonniebyrd9824]

I bought a new Daytona 2023 $38K in May of 2024 Dealer had a ton of new cars still on the lot.i did see MSRP at $54 and an additional sticker of $62,000 that had bogus additional charges

[@SilverBulletOBW]

Don’t forget there were also people like me in “no man’s land” where I came in around early August of ‘22 near the end of that model year, before the ‘23 Last Call announcement was eve made, and paid MSRP thinking that due to scarcity of parts not that many widebodies could even be produced. It was a gamble that has only paid off in 16K miles of smiles… because $24K in depreciation kinda hurts!😂

[@benb.5984]

Picked up a Left over 2023 Scat Pack WB Charger with 11 miles and full factory warranty last month for almost 15k off sticker. It’s 97% of the car I would have ordered were I in a position to do so when they were building them. I can live without the Carbon/Suede Package for the savings.

[@Valentina-gf6vy]

They were smart for waiting. I recently got a Durango 392 because that is what I wanted and I am enjoying it. Not as an investment. Did I pay too much-yes especially looking at the discounts they have now. I would like to have a hellcat at some point. Based on your video, I will keep looking for a low point because I still think the asking prices are too high