Does a Starmer election win depend on Labour 'left-wing purge'?

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@MrBizteck
@MrBizteck 7 ай бұрын
We desperately need PR in the UK
@bizzleogria
@bizzleogria 7 ай бұрын
Labour party voted for it to be in their manifesto but Keir starmer personally warned people who voted for it, and vetoed the vote
@BrainInJar
@BrainInJar 7 ай бұрын
It's sad to see the Labour Party becoming an upper-class and corporate party.
@DrJams
@DrJams 7 ай бұрын
Socialism doesn't work. Corbin had to go
@garethbuckeridge6910
@garethbuckeridge6910 7 ай бұрын
Becoming? That game started under bLiar in the 90s and it would now appear that the Islington elite is back.
@BrainInJar
@BrainInJar 7 ай бұрын
@@garethbuckeridge6910 Yes, new labour set it on this trajectory, but it seems it’s not even keeping up pretences anymore.
@DrJams
@DrJams 7 ай бұрын
The labour party moved to far to the left. Corbin got destroyed at the elections remember
@Grieche-i8y
@Grieche-i8y 7 ай бұрын
Once the unions couldn't fund it, it became beholden to the donor class
@OzgunDoganbaloglu
@OzgunDoganbaloglu 7 ай бұрын
Labour party is no longer a broad church. Thanks to Starmer and his clique
@AlGorithm-n6q
@AlGorithm-n6q 7 ай бұрын
It is a church. The new Branch Davidians.
@ChrispyNut
@ChrispyNut 7 ай бұрын
clique*
@7ookee
@7ookee 7 ай бұрын
This is why pr is needed. True democracy instead of elective dictatorship.
@OzgunDoganbaloglu
@OzgunDoganbaloglu 7 ай бұрын
@@7ookee Exactly
@ChrispyNut
@ChrispyNut 7 ай бұрын
@@7ookee PR doesn't mean true democracy. Can have PR and dictatorship, if the "information" people are receiving is pure propaganda and what we have currently isn't far from that.
@GeoffV-k1h
@GeoffV-k1h 7 ай бұрын
If Labour thinks black and Asian people will appreciate the idea of black and Asian candidates being considered expendable, they should reconsider.
@sararichardson737
@sararichardson737 7 ай бұрын
Word!
@blacklisted4885
@blacklisted4885 7 ай бұрын
You lot are obsessed with race. What about merit
@davelong9055
@davelong9055 7 ай бұрын
Should white people only vote for white candidates?
@empressdoinalot
@empressdoinalot 7 ай бұрын
​@@blacklisted4885considering the Labour party have a high ethnic minority vote, it can be about race. It's not an obession, it's just stating facts
@Gerrygambone
@Gerrygambone 7 ай бұрын
@@empressdoinalot A vote winner for Labour. Loving it that the Tories like yourself ( hopefully you are voting Reform which is a vote for Labour ) don't like it.
@RoyWhearty
@RoyWhearty 7 ай бұрын
Starmer does not scare Murdoch, Corbyn did.
@fredadams6239
@fredadams6239 7 ай бұрын
Corbyn and momentum 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@rosemarycuthbert4623
@rosemarycuthbert4623 7 ай бұрын
Deselecting people over responses to tweets. This is absolute nonsense and reveals Starmer for the despot that he is
@Radagast-
@Radagast- 7 ай бұрын
"First they came for the socialists..."
@davidcooks2379
@davidcooks2379 7 ай бұрын
This time it's islamists, and first they came for the Jews
@davelong9055
@davelong9055 7 ай бұрын
Then they came for the Habdos
@rachelusher5390
@rachelusher5390 7 ай бұрын
i think you mean the Jews!
@sn4831
@sn4831 7 ай бұрын
LOL! Youre really using a holocaust poem? Not a good look, given Labour’s anti Jewish elements.
@stirlingmoss9637
@stirlingmoss9637 7 ай бұрын
They ? Who is this group called "they"?
@kadour9807
@kadour9807 7 ай бұрын
No to Labour and no the conservatives.
@jcanyiam8309
@jcanyiam8309 7 ай бұрын
YOU should GO & LIVE IN RWANDA then!
@MrWjaved
@MrWjaved 7 ай бұрын
@@jcanyiam8309 Appreciate your selective liberalism.
@polyestermammoth740
@polyestermammoth740 7 ай бұрын
Why should they go to a random third world cou try just because they don't like corrupt politics? That makes no sense. You are obviously a headbanger though.
@TheLucanicLord
@TheLucanicLord 7 ай бұрын
@@jcanyiam8309 He's perfectly happy in Russia, TYVM!
@MrWjaved
@MrWjaved 7 ай бұрын
@@TheLucanicLord We the people from third world countries can better point what not to do, in protecting things people here takes for granted. Criticizing politicians irrespective of party lines is the most obvious one
@elspethgibson7625
@elspethgibson7625 7 ай бұрын
I bet any national service would be crafted in such a way that wealthy kids would not be call upon.
@davidfarrar2454
@davidfarrar2454 7 ай бұрын
Two faced tories!
@davelong9055
@davelong9055 7 ай бұрын
Votery
@Trendycosmetics-os6gh
@Trendycosmetics-os6gh 7 ай бұрын
Leave Conservative out of this. Starmer is a disgrace
@gigabyte2573
@gigabyte2573 7 ай бұрын
Starmer is weak, caves in too quickly, flip flops continuously, we are in trouble internationally if he continues to be so easily moved to change his mind !
@alice1374
@alice1374 7 ай бұрын
@@gigabyte2573 All it took was rayner, to cause starmer to cave into the abbott scandal. If pressure really works that easily on starmer, something of which he could have avoided if he did the correct thing on tuesday to start with it would have been better. But of course, it's Starmer. I don't expect much.
@SeaElite
@SeaElite 6 ай бұрын
@@Trendycosmetics-os6gh That Indian Two faces Tori isn't any better! far from it 🙄
@digglerdudeuk
@digglerdudeuk 7 ай бұрын
Starmer's Labour is a disgrace.
@AndyFurze
@AndyFurze 7 ай бұрын
Starmers labour will win
@DrJams
@DrJams 7 ай бұрын
Corbin was holding the party back. Socialism doesn't work
@BOOOOOOOONE
@BOOOOOOOONE 7 ай бұрын
​@@AndyFurzeby default.
@jcanyiam8309
@jcanyiam8309 7 ай бұрын
Starmer's Labour has not been Governing this Country for the last 14 years- You MUPPET!!! You must have been living in a CAVE for the last 14 YEARS
@chriswatson3464
@chriswatson3464 7 ай бұрын
​@@AndyFurzeit's still a disgrace!
@judithmatthews8460
@judithmatthews8460 7 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t vote Labour. This strikes me as Stalinist style purge. I’d spoil my paper rather than vote for either. The unethical bullying is unacceptable
@jackmorris6967
@jackmorris6967 7 ай бұрын
Whilst I don't agree with Kiers purge that is a ridiculous statement.
@natenae8635
@natenae8635 7 ай бұрын
I think stalins victims would have begged to get this treatment. No gulags, No commissars, no shadow courts 😂
@EmmaVB82
@EmmaVB82 7 ай бұрын
I looked up my local candidates today and (as a former member of the Labour party) am eagerly looking forward to voting for the Green candidate David Craig in Tottenham (even though I unfortunately think it’s unlikely for Lammy not to be re-elected as my local MP)… @judithmatthews8460 I urge you to have a look at the other options in your constituency, because even if they’re unlikely to win, your vote for a smaller party or independent that better represents your views is more likely to send a clearer message than just spoiling your ballot paper! The only thing that could make me vote Labour these days [other than for Sadiq Khan as mayor, which I view almost a separate from any votes for the party during a GE!) is if my local councillor was on the ballot paper (who I thoroughly support as a local councillor, even in spite of the wider party’s terrible behaviour on so many levels, because I know that’s not representative of her), and she’s not. Sooooo… alternatives r us!
@jogreeen
@jogreeen 7 ай бұрын
Labour does not need your vote, you are nothing, you don't exist. 😪
@cerambyx-8
@cerambyx-8 7 ай бұрын
@@natenae8635 Agreed. My grandparents had their properties and land taken by Stalins regime and were sent to the Arkhangelsk gulag, they got released when the exiled Polish government in London demanded for the release of gulag prisoners which they did (only Poles, Ukrainians, Belarusians and ethnic Russians living in Poland) when they joined the allies. Stalin shot his political adversaries.
@capt.bart.roberts4975
@capt.bart.roberts4975 7 ай бұрын
I'm a pensioner, I've never voted conservative, and not about to start now.
@D-A-H8585
@D-A-H8585 7 ай бұрын
Best way forwards…look inwards. Build on your relationship with Allah. Ask from Allah what you want and be patient. Politics is a diversion from God. God will answer your wants.
@samsby14
@samsby14 6 ай бұрын
​@@D-A-H8585Christ is King ✝️
@D-A-H8585
@D-A-H8585 6 ай бұрын
@@samsby14 I believe in Jesus. He was a true messenger. He is mentioned many times in the Quran and there is even a whole chapter names after his mother Maryam. The point is that Jesus, Mohammed, Abraham, Moses …are all messengers of Allah. They all essentially preached the same message, to worship God alone. The devil wants us to elevate the status of messengers to that of God. The devil wants us to associate partners in worship with God. God is not within His creation. God almighty is not within time and space glory be to Him.
@PaulJones-xl6xq
@PaulJones-xl6xq 6 ай бұрын
Vote reform sir they seem to have the best ideas for Brits and don’t want to rob the elderly
@capt.bart.roberts4975
@capt.bart.roberts4975 6 ай бұрын
@@PaulJones-xl6xq RefUK plc! Your having a giraffe.
@Nemo59646
@Nemo59646 7 ай бұрын
Nobody from the Green Party.
@momo8200
@momo8200 7 ай бұрын
Right-wing Tories are welcomed, but socialists are not. Starmer is showing you who he really is.
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 7 ай бұрын
He wants Labour to be in power.
@HuwRichards-e2z
@HuwRichards-e2z 7 ай бұрын
I could never have voted Conservative, now I cannot bring myself to vote for a centre right Labour party. Who now can I vote for? Who is there for me as someone who wants a party with actual belief in something, preferably with a social agenda and some idea of truth and honesty?
@georgechristoforou991
@georgechristoforou991 7 ай бұрын
Workers Party or Reform party
@Jmcinally94
@Jmcinally94 7 ай бұрын
Vote for whichever party represents your beliefs. Labour have this election in the bag, we may as well try to get some more left wing candidates in to keep them accountable. The exact opposite happened with the Cons a decade ago, the right wingers forced Cameron to offer up Brexit even though he didn't want to. Maybe we can drag Starmer more to the left once he's in if we have MPs pushing back against his neoliberalism.
@BrainInJar
@BrainInJar 7 ай бұрын
@@georgechristoforou991 The Reform Party is not a left-wing party.
@AndyFurze
@AndyFurze 7 ай бұрын
​@@BrainInJarleftwing right wing who cares
@BrainInJar
@BrainInJar 7 ай бұрын
@@AndyFurze It matters to those who care about the future of this nation. There is no future under a right-wing nation.
@kenrickcampbell7406
@kenrickcampbell7406 7 ай бұрын
Starmer's calculation will backfire big time. All the dissffected labour voters will vote Green...... Starmer is the one who should be shown the door.
@ilikevines
@ilikevines 7 ай бұрын
They're clealry picking up plenty of disaffected former Tory voters I think the trade off will pay off for them.
@kevteop
@kevteop 7 ай бұрын
I left the party when they kicked out Ken Loach, and I'll certainly be voting Green.
@scooby1992
@scooby1992 6 ай бұрын
I am dissatisfied with how Starmer has acted , but will still vote Labour as I have a great candidate and she has the best chance of getting rid of my Tory MP . Under FPTP that is the only thing I can do . A Green vote would be wasted in my area .
@hilaryporter7841
@hilaryporter7841 7 ай бұрын
If Starmer had been an MP during South African apartheid, he would have voted to support apartheid.
@TarlachOakleaf
@TarlachOakleaf 7 ай бұрын
Try not to talk like a fool. Really.
@alteredstate07
@alteredstate07 7 ай бұрын
@@TarlachOakleaf They're right, read up on labours biggest donor and where that family's money comes from. Starmer has no issues with it. You've been fooled.
@AndyFurze
@AndyFurze 7 ай бұрын
At least he has got labour electable what's the point of being in permanent opposite
@TarlachOakleaf
@TarlachOakleaf 7 ай бұрын
@@alteredstate07 So, what you're suggesting is that because "labour's biggest donor" has South African connections - which I won't even trouble myself to verify because (a) it's almost certainly a lie and (b) it's irrelevant (why shouldn't Labour have SA connections?) - Starmer would therefore have voted to support apartheid during that era, which ended 30 years ago, true? Congratulations, my poor cerebrally challenged friend, on today's "Dumbest Comment Of The Day". A considerable achievement when you consider the sheer weight of the competition.
@matthewbaynham6286
@matthewbaynham6286 7 ай бұрын
​@@AndyFurzehe hasn't done anything good or anything that gains votes, it's simply a question of the Tory's collapsing.
@interurnan5997
@interurnan5997 7 ай бұрын
Boris is looking well
@trulymental7651
@trulymental7651 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@polly6336
@polly6336 7 ай бұрын
Jo/ Joe was my cousin's MP 'til he stood down. She said he was pretty good, he turned up to meetings with constituents, was interested and proactive etc. The wrong Johnson went into politics, or too many of them perhaps.
@StratsRUs
@StratsRUs 7 ай бұрын
Anybody can go anecdotal.​@@polly6336
@sophiemoconnell
@sophiemoconnell 7 ай бұрын
​@@polly6336 I've heard he was supposed to be pretty reasonable in comparison too.
@reamoinmcdonachadh9519
@reamoinmcdonachadh9519 7 ай бұрын
Labour becoming a center right political party? That somehow does not feel right.
@ffotograffydd
@ffotograffydd 7 ай бұрын
It isn’t.
@mr.mayhem7402
@mr.mayhem7402 7 ай бұрын
It's the only one that the establishment allows into power. I think it's rather quant that anyone thinks there's any real difference between the 2 cheeks.
@AndyFurze
@AndyFurze 7 ай бұрын
What do you want labour in permanent opposition
@sararichardson737
@sararichardson737 7 ай бұрын
Cuz it’s not!
@davelong9055
@davelong9055 7 ай бұрын
They are going to cut your benefits and deport immigrants.
@lunaskye621
@lunaskye621 7 ай бұрын
Labour is truly just another Conservative Party. From being founded as a party to represent workers to being a party to represent big business and Israeli lobbyist.
@TihetrisWeathersby
@TihetrisWeathersby 7 ай бұрын
Keir is running to be Prime Minister of Israel
@slightlyconfused876
@slightlyconfused876 7 ай бұрын
And you are running to be idiot of the day, in fact the vote is in and you won.
@ffotograffydd
@ffotograffydd 7 ай бұрын
Daft comment.
@nimzgaz7049
@nimzgaz7049 7 ай бұрын
I still haven’t hers what the Labour Policys are?? 😂
@ffotograffydd
@ffotograffydd 7 ай бұрын
@@nimzgaz7049 Maybe you should listen a bit harder.
@colinsixhitter3303
@colinsixhitter3303 7 ай бұрын
Perhaps his name should be Heir Starling not Kier Starver.
@alancoates4531
@alancoates4531 7 ай бұрын
Vote for anybody to get the Tories out.
@user-gu1un7pb7k
@user-gu1un7pb7k 7 ай бұрын
I mean...Are we forgetting about the article Diane Abbott published? Why are people acting like she is above consequences?
@margaretfarrell5137
@margaretfarrell5137 7 ай бұрын
She apologised. Unlike others, her apology did not count. I wonder why.
@user-gu1un7pb7k
@user-gu1un7pb7k 7 ай бұрын
@@margaretfarrell5137 Unlike others, who? And the reason why it did not count fundamentally is because she's a total liability. Let's be real here.
@gigabyte2573
@gigabyte2573 7 ай бұрын
@@user-gu1un7pb7k True.
@chriswatson3464
@chriswatson3464 7 ай бұрын
She also has said repeatedly about how whites love playing divide and rule.
@kdog4587
@kdog4587 7 ай бұрын
​@@user-gu1un7pb7kprobably Elphicke and the fellow who said looking at Diane Abbott made him want to kill all black women. Elphicke and the Tory donor both applogised which apparently is enough. Diane Abbott applogised but that apparently isn't enough.. That's what they're talking about I would assume
@marcusmiz
@marcusmiz 7 ай бұрын
We all need to mobilise, labour and conservative have made themselves unvotable. Green party? Workers party? Lib Dems?
@WalrusisintheMatrix
@WalrusisintheMatrix 7 ай бұрын
not lib dems lol
@marcusmiz
@marcusmiz 7 ай бұрын
@@WalrusisintheMatrix is that because it's the same as voting Tory these days?
@edmann1820
@edmann1820 7 ай бұрын
@@marcusmiz I voted for the lib dems and they took my vote and gave it to the tories. It's a massive betrayal that should not be forgotten. I'll be voting Green. All the houses near me who usually have 'vote labour' in their windows have switched to Green. I don't particularly have much faith in them but there's no one else left.
@chriswatson3464
@chriswatson3464 7 ай бұрын
Whoever got the best chance in your constituency.
@jamieeddolls5605
@jamieeddolls5605 7 ай бұрын
Reform.
@JoelMiller77
@JoelMiller77 7 ай бұрын
Labour snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, 🤦🏻‍♂️ I’m not surprised they are committed to self destruction
@EMidMSO
@EMidMSO 7 ай бұрын
Agree, not looking good for that Ming vase is it! I'd be quite happy for a Progressive overall win with Starmer's wings well & truly clipped
@A2Z1Two3
@A2Z1Two3 7 ай бұрын
A huge majority for Labour is a blank cheque that will not be good for the country .
@matthewbaynham6286
@matthewbaynham6286 7 ай бұрын
I would like to see a coalition government of Green, Lib Dem, SNP, Plaid, plus some independent candiates like Corbyn and Diana. I'm voting Green in Bristol, and I hope we can have a couple of Green MP's in Bristol.
@dmizzle73
@dmizzle73 7 ай бұрын
Happy with Scottish and Welsh independence then? I doubt a rainbow coalition you've outlined would hold together - the Lib Dems are anti-independence and hated the left wing of Labour. The Greens are hardly pals with the SNP after whats happened in the Scottish Government. Don't let cynicism mask your memory of the fact that when the left wing of the Labour party were in control for the 80's, 2017 and 2019 that they couldn't win an election and govern. For their many faults the New Labour government made a lot of UK citizens lives better and I'd rather have a Labour government than a Green MP without any power shouting from the sides at a Conservative government.
@bonuscheese1
@bonuscheese1 7 ай бұрын
Greens like Mothin Ali?
@jamieeddolls5605
@jamieeddolls5605 7 ай бұрын
What an absolute nightmare that would be, hyper globalist marxist Britain. Surely you're joking.
@tarquinmerryweather4929
@tarquinmerryweather4929 7 ай бұрын
Labour has moved towards the centre. The party was a disaster under Corbyn. 2019 proved that. The country supports parties around the centre. Not too.left and not to right under the present Tories.
@chriswatson3464
@chriswatson3464 7 ай бұрын
This is worse than Corbyn. Also Corbyn got lots of things right.
@tarquinmerryweather4929
@tarquinmerryweather4929 7 ай бұрын
You do the numbers after the election? In 2019, Corbyn was abysmal. He wasn't the cause, but he definitely contributed to our Brexit!
@camdencobain1460
@camdencobain1460 7 ай бұрын
I'd rather Labour lost on a radical manifesto, than won merely to continue Tory policies.
@chriswatson3464
@chriswatson3464 7 ай бұрын
@@tarquinmerryweather4929 but he followed Starmers Brexit and didn't purge the party. Starmer did. To be fair he lost many votes because of patriotism, immigration and poor presentation.
@iamalive8201
@iamalive8201 7 ай бұрын
It is high time unions go for parliament because they are for working people and not profit ☝️
@AndyFurze
@AndyFurze 7 ай бұрын
Rubbish most unions our now in it for themselves
@bwilliams572
@bwilliams572 7 ай бұрын
😆😆
@inconvenientfacts58
@inconvenientfacts58 7 ай бұрын
The British want an alternative to the Tories, so Starmer decides to move closer to the Tories. Sounds legit dun it?
@jamieeddolls5605
@jamieeddolls5605 7 ай бұрын
Reform is the alternative.
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 7 ай бұрын
Why isn't the NEC meeting now? Labour need to kill this story quickly. This is a gift to the Tories.
@pmcgktr
@pmcgktr 7 ай бұрын
The Liberal Democrat’s gimmicks turn me off as voter
@chriswatson3464
@chriswatson3464 7 ай бұрын
Maybe independents now.
@daloo3a
@daloo3a 7 ай бұрын
Taking the left out of the party which is meant to be left.... how does that work?
@essealants3730
@essealants3730 7 ай бұрын
Constituants of kier stammet get out and vote for Andrew Finstein by doing so you will prevent kier being pm and even leader of the labour party, thats the smart vote for country and should shock labour in general back to the left time to send a clear and loud message
@EMidMSO
@EMidMSO 7 ай бұрын
100% The dream result - & if Streeting joins him in oblivion - oh joy!
@capt.bart.roberts4975
@capt.bart.roberts4975 7 ай бұрын
Ooo! A lot of copium being taken by The Tories on the panel.
@sasserine
@sasserine 7 ай бұрын
Johnson would think Labour's disciplinary process is authoritarian, since he is a member of a party with seemingly no disciplinary process whatsoever. Any process would appear authoritarian, in comparison to the blank slate his brother was given, to commit any crime, any break any rule, spit on any standard of decency.
@guywakeford3259
@guywakeford3259 7 ай бұрын
Starmer is digging his own grave. As much as I dislike the tories, eventually they will regroup. All the traditional tory voters that might vote for Starmer will then go back to voting conservative. This is when labour will need the left wing voters they have abandoned. Good luck with trying to win them back!
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 7 ай бұрын
Not enough votes on the left.
@TotalEquilibrium1
@TotalEquilibrium1 7 ай бұрын
Both the left wing and the right wing belong to the same bird. They're all in this together.
@direnova6284
@direnova6284 7 ай бұрын
I don't see any left wing alternative here.
@TotalEquilibrium1
@TotalEquilibrium1 7 ай бұрын
@@direnova6284 all politicians represent the interests of à limited few. They're all in this together. There is no left or right wing. The illusion of democracy. Your democratic choices are to vote for the interests of the wealthy or to vote for the interests of the wealthy. Both wings amount to the same bird
@TotalEquilibrium1
@TotalEquilibrium1 7 ай бұрын
There is no right or left. You are voting for the interests of the wealthy.
@fergaldeclar6994
@fergaldeclar6994 7 ай бұрын
Really refreshing to listen to politicians speaking openly. And so much more interesting than a discussion based on tired talking points
@btsb60
@btsb60 7 ай бұрын
I'm a lifelong labour voter but they're not getting it this time labour has moved so far to the right it's unrecognisable as a socialist any more
@gabikassen270
@gabikassen270 7 ай бұрын
Can someone please explain to me as a Dutchie, why the UK people want to vote for the Labour Party? Im so confused?! The rest of Europe is become more rightwing as we want to stop this invasion, however the UK polls suggest that the Labour Party will win with a landslide. Someone pls explain!!!!!
@NickTheGyp
@NickTheGyp 7 ай бұрын
Didn’t you Dutch invade Indonesia, Africa, India??? STFU.
@chriswatson3464
@chriswatson3464 7 ай бұрын
The right hasn't done a good job on immigration to the UK to put it mildly. Other issues including Sunaks gaffs, inflation, taxes, trade, Truss and more.
@user-oc7jh3hw6e
@user-oc7jh3hw6e 7 ай бұрын
Diane Abbott is a trailblazer. I remember when she blazed her first trail in '87, it was the trailiest blaze the world of blazing trails had ever seen.
@christopherflux6254
@christopherflux6254 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think it makes a difference for the majority of the electorate. People aren’t voting Labour out of ideology.
@adsdft585
@adsdft585 7 ай бұрын
A group of independent candidates should promote a referendum on PR systems.
@izzytrue8630
@izzytrue8630 7 ай бұрын
Talk about what this Tory Govt. has done to our Country for the last 14 years!!!
@Fordnan
@Fordnan 7 ай бұрын
Nice bit of whataboutery. If you don't like what the tories have done over the past 14 years, you should be concerned about Starmer offering a continulation of their politics and philosophy.
@ffotograffydd
@ffotograffydd 7 ай бұрын
@@FordnanDaft comment.
@Fordnan
@Fordnan 7 ай бұрын
@@ffotograffydd You don't need to describe your comment, just write it.
@ffotograffydd
@ffotograffydd 7 ай бұрын
@@Fordnan I was describing yours mate, as you well know. 😉
@user-tl3hu2lh6u
@user-tl3hu2lh6u 7 ай бұрын
It's very clear! I want the dysfunctional Tories out and the dysfunctional henchman on the right of the Labour party. It has to be half and half. We need the left to stay in the Labour party. Or what is the point in voting for ANOTHER right wing party?😬🤔🤷‍♀️ Especially when I'm not of the far right or the right. Everyone needs a voice, not just the wealthy from the two parties. Bring Diane Abbott back! Angela Rayner for PM!
@gwynedd-1
@gwynedd-1 7 ай бұрын
The Israeli lobby has both Labour and Tory leaders under their control. That is the problem.
@jonsteele7227
@jonsteele7227 7 ай бұрын
Where is your attention om Truss and Sunak's selection process when Truss has done a podcast with someone supporting the rape comment abuse of a female Labour MP. Where is the media attention on this. This is shameful bias. It is disgusting
@Frankfrynk
@Frankfrynk 7 ай бұрын
The only decision a UK voter can make is to decide which party they loathe the most and vote for whichever candidate in their local constituency is most likely to keep them out.
@Andulsi
@Andulsi 7 ай бұрын
No democracy left in Britain. 2 parties owned by a corporotocracy
@alibajwa368
@alibajwa368 7 ай бұрын
Racist Labour never vote for Labour or the Tories again
@arma21regency
@arma21regency 7 ай бұрын
Shocking that the Tory is the sanest person on the panel
@bassekaman8315
@bassekaman8315 7 ай бұрын
22:31 "we dont take anyone for granted" more lies
@pjs20thetube
@pjs20thetube 7 ай бұрын
This idea of political parties becoming a broad church is so ridiculous anyway. If you go with that logic you could have one party and make it a broad church. Isn't it the role of Parliament to reach a consensus and then vote for legislation?
@Professional_Youtube_Commenter
@Professional_Youtube_Commenter 7 ай бұрын
Diane abbot will be kicked out at the last minute so that she doesnt have time to campaign as an independant. The sooner she realises that the better. She needs to get campaigning fast.
@BeeLZBeeb
@BeeLZBeeb 7 ай бұрын
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.” “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”
@FranzBieberkopf
@FranzBieberkopf 7 ай бұрын
This aged well!
@Carlin2810
@Carlin2810 7 ай бұрын
We're going to have a man in charge of the country who is supposedly a Human Rights Lawyer who said an occupying state that is currently bombing a people that it occupies & are curreny in a refugee camp in their own country has the right to withhold food water & medicine & is also the same man & group of MP's that wanted people like me to wear badges & to be denied goods & services including healthcare & the ability to work because I was non vaccine compliant. I dont think most of you can grasp what it feels like to hear people talking the way they were during Covid & now some of the worst offenders of that kind of rhetoric & about to take power of the entire country. Do you know how scary that was for people to hear,it was Covid that scared me it was Liberals & how they wanted to treat me.
@alst4817
@alst4817 7 ай бұрын
Lots of Tory bots in the comments. I hope this expense will be properly itemised for the electoral commission?!
@paulurwin1232
@paulurwin1232 7 ай бұрын
Labour not wanting to copy tories and go extreme ? Gets my vote ...hard left hard right both looney tunes
@MrBizteck
@MrBizteck 7 ай бұрын
Liking a tweet extreme?
@natenae8635
@natenae8635 7 ай бұрын
@@MrBizteckThey can’t see if you like a tweet, but if you post it in a supportive manner then that’s something different.
@claudetteearle3052
@claudetteearle3052 7 ай бұрын
Well, if I was in Hackney and Diane wasnt running, i would vote LibDem. Now a number of my Hackney friends were gearing up to back LibDem or Green, but not Labour this time round. I think they are justified.
@rolandrothwell4840
@rolandrothwell4840 7 ай бұрын
Daisy Cooper has forensic analysis and good prescriptions. I trust her thinking 🤔 go Liberal Democrats!!!!!!
@nickbrian5141
@nickbrian5141 7 ай бұрын
Reform is the only choice.
@Gerrygambone
@Gerrygambone 7 ай бұрын
Dianne Abbot and Corbin were the Tories greatest asset, what a disaster for the Tories.
@paulcashin50
@paulcashin50 7 ай бұрын
Let's not forget; whilst there has always been a 'Far Right'-there has never seemed to be a 'Far Left'....at least according to the msm in UK.
@sasserine
@sasserine 7 ай бұрын
They never stop labelling half the country 'far left'.
@whereisbryce7101
@whereisbryce7101 7 ай бұрын
I think Daisy Cooper nailed it when she said Labour are taking huge swathes of their base for granted. Black, Asian, and LGBT voters have been shown in the past few days that Labour don’t particularly care about them and expect them to stay in line. It’s disappointing.
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 7 ай бұрын
Elections are won in the centre.
@jemshadow123
@jemshadow123 7 ай бұрын
I cant believe there is an intelligent, straight forward and easy to understand Johnson...why wasnt he elected PM?
@DarkFire515
@DarkFire515 7 ай бұрын
The amount of tory copium in this episode was hilarious.
@keithd26
@keithd26 7 ай бұрын
My initial reaction was outrage at what happened to Diane Abbott. Then I was reminded that I thought David Cameron should have done something similar with his loony right and now I am wondering if Starmer actually has the right idea.
@adsdft585
@adsdft585 7 ай бұрын
Low turn out of voters! Is that bad for labour?
@JohnShaw-zm2pc
@JohnShaw-zm2pc 7 ай бұрын
Vote out to help out. Vote Labour give them a chance we can always vote them out 😅😅😅😅
@mattyspaghetti449
@mattyspaghetti449 7 ай бұрын
Labour Party = US Democratic party = Liberal Party of Canada = Macron = etc...
@sproc01
@sproc01 6 ай бұрын
i care about how good she is at her job not whether she's black or a single mom.
@uzoma112
@uzoma112 7 ай бұрын
Starmer’s Labour is the Tories masked.
@francescahamilton6856
@francescahamilton6856 7 ай бұрын
Excellent as always
@Notreallyoverit
@Notreallyoverit 7 ай бұрын
The hyperbole in these comments! Yes of course moving to the centre, and necessarily removing people who resist that process, is necessary for any major political party who wants to improve their electability. Most of the electorate is in the centre. It will also likely be necessary for the Tories to do the same.
@AndyFurze
@AndyFurze 7 ай бұрын
Exactly anyone thinking otherwise is living in la la land
@nectanbo
@nectanbo 7 ай бұрын
The Labour Party is supposed to stand up for working people (clue is in the name). Pandering to the imaginary centre in order to be delectable and becoming red tories in the process is reprehensible and repulsive.
@Notreallyoverit
@Notreallyoverit 7 ай бұрын
@@nectanbo while that might be a pure viewpoint, it's also one (as Jeremy Corbyn discovered) that leads to electoral defeat. It's hard to implement policies to help workers from the opposition benches. I'd personally argue that it's equally if not more repulsive to sacrifice the chance to do some good on the altar of ideological purity.
@nectanbo
@nectanbo 7 ай бұрын
@@Notreallyoverit I feel like there must be a middle ground at least. Refusing to back strikers, not committing to common sense measures such as nationalising water, while condoning International geonoicide and purging your party of socialists . This is all very reprehensible and unnecessary stuff do you not think?
@Notreallyoverit
@Notreallyoverit 7 ай бұрын
​@@nectanboit's necessary to listen to the room. That room is not filled with people such as yourself, but with swing voters. Policies that may make perfect sense to someone with a left wing mindset can be kryptonite to them. Be careful of placing too much faith in what you hear and read in your echo chamber. I don't mean that perjoratively, it's just a risk we all have to be aware of in this modern social media driven world.
@czarkusa2018
@czarkusa2018 7 ай бұрын
It's opportunistic. They'll win either way and in seeing that, Starmer is turning Labour from our Labour Party into his IDF Party.
@adsdft585
@adsdft585 7 ай бұрын
What is going happen in Wales and Scotland?
@mac7040
@mac7040 7 ай бұрын
Not voting because of how "our people " have been treated. If a person is so removed from British culture that they cannot even vote as part of it then maybe they should take "their people" and go and live where " their culture is ". Otherwise cut out the identity politics .
@shaunobrien8975
@shaunobrien8975 7 ай бұрын
I like how this program gets a lot of politicians who aren't running for seats rather than people who are currently campaigning, it seems like the guests you have are more likely to speak their mind than people who will just tow the party line, Krishnan does a good job of moderating it in a sensible way, enough so that the guests will open up but not so much that they will shut down and fall back on their parties talking points. Hope Channel 4 keep producing this after the election, it's an interesting listen.
@JOzzie-u8z
@JOzzie-u8z 7 ай бұрын
So because they have those people we should ignore thw racism and anti-semtic comments nope im supporting him more now hes getting tid of the rot
@harveyr8292
@harveyr8292 7 ай бұрын
Left wing of labour (left wing) Wouldn't it be more accurate to say the far left of the party
@capt.bart.roberts4975
@capt.bart.roberts4975 7 ай бұрын
The Tories dominate the headlines, because of the red top's wedding to The Party.
@rosemarycuthbert4623
@rosemarycuthbert4623 7 ай бұрын
Wonder if Rayner will be disciplined or be next to get her marching orders
@ohyeah2816
@ohyeah2816 7 ай бұрын
If you think this is going to be thought about on the day? The Conservatives have got to go. Time to stop trying to make news from nothing. Vote Labour.👍🏼✌🏼
@FPL_Bantam
@FPL_Bantam 7 ай бұрын
So, to be clear, does Meg Hillier knock on doors?
@mr.mayhem7402
@mr.mayhem7402 7 ай бұрын
They will all vote Labour, no matter what, so Starmer can ignore them and do what he likes.
@patcampton7163
@patcampton7163 7 ай бұрын
Starmer wants quality candidate but has replaced excellent candidate with the likes of Alehurst and Coyle Really?? What about the runour that starmer and the NEC are offering peerages to left wing mps? Maybe more investigating would help.
@BogdanGheorge-bc8xu
@BogdanGheorge-bc8xu 7 ай бұрын
*_RYSHY_MUST_RESYGN_*
@tans430
@tans430 7 ай бұрын
Labour is not supposed to be centre-right. It is supposed to be a broad church
@jeremygreenwood1021
@jeremygreenwood1021 7 ай бұрын
Good discussion that makes the issues quite clear. I hope we aren't going to get New Labour all over again.
@WanderingWarg
@WanderingWarg 7 ай бұрын
How are Jo and Boris Johnson brothers? This guy actually sounds reasonable (for a Tory)!
@reginaldamoah8608
@reginaldamoah8608 7 ай бұрын
l actually really enjoyed the conversation and appreciated his candour. However Rory called out his blind spot around virtue in public office which is how he could be rather cavalier about some of the real financial hardship he and Truss caused. He's intellect has disengaged him from the struggle to the point that he can cheerfully accommodate the right wing ideals that his father presumably would have been against. He's great person to have a conversation with capable and intelligent but sadly seems to think empathy and compassion are irrelevant. He isn't alone in that and hopefully this can be addressed in future polititians.
@sasserine
@sasserine 7 ай бұрын
Regarding university courses; every year, the right wing press claims there are degree courses in obscure subjects that appear niche interests. The reality, when you strip away the lies, are that the seemingly odd subject is one module within normal courses on everyday subjects. Nobody takes 'a degree in golf'. They take an MBa in Business Studies, and chose a golf club they knew, to use as an example business. Nobody takes 'a degree in pinball'; they did Electrical Engineering, and to prove their skill, they built pinball tables. They may have collaborated with a student of Marketing, who could show their research into risk-reward pricing methods to set the optimal scoring strategy to ensure maximum repeat customers. But you'd never know that from the bile that drips from the Mail and Express.
@adsdft585
@adsdft585 7 ай бұрын
Is there an economic surprise going to happen which is not 100% clear yet?
@sararichardson737
@sararichardson737 7 ай бұрын
They’ve lost me, they only get my X. Because they’re not Tory. What a lamentable win.
@davelong9055
@davelong9055 7 ай бұрын
I agree - vote Conservative.
@sararichardson737
@sararichardson737 7 ай бұрын
@@davelong9055 don’t be daft!
@gigabyte2573
@gigabyte2573 7 ай бұрын
Vote for what you believe in for god's sake, not what you're frightened of, real change will never happen if you continue to vote this way, if you care about yourself only vote Labour, if you care about your bank balance vote Tory, if you care about your country vote Reform !
@jorge401
@jorge401 7 ай бұрын
Starmer is a TORY ......no doubt about it ! 🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉
@maneshipocrates2264
@maneshipocrates2264 7 ай бұрын
If you do not remove them, you will not win. Corbyn lost to Johnson, May and Lettuce.
@rotoplumper
@rotoplumper 7 ай бұрын
don't be so fucking ridiculous, the conservatives have no vote left, labour are going to win this easily
@ChrispyNut
@ChrispyNut 7 ай бұрын
Corbyn lost to Brexit, smears and "being too nice" by not purging the Liberals.
@capt.bart.roberts4975
@capt.bart.roberts4975 7 ай бұрын
I did the technical route into medicine. It's a route that has been shut, by the rush to make any professional qualification a university one. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
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