Does A Trade For Luis Robert Jr. Make Sense? Liberatore Was Brilliant In Win Over The Braves

Luis Robert Jr.
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[@anthonybroyles]

Bout time JD. Been waiting all morning for my LO episode fix

[@ACErob-me9ss]

Yep, I agree. It was great to see liberatore absolutely dominate. His whole demeanor was like, "Don't f#$k with me. Loved it

[@scott2726]

Yes finally see some fire but that spotting that slider was impressive!! He's using it more.

[@dennissmith5042]

And Blake and oli should of went to him saying"see kid if u pitch with that edge and go after hitters u could be a good starting pitcher

[@danzemacabre8899]

No doubt , an effective floater from bullpen to spot starter? That's what put jordan Montgomery on the map

[@brettmanus7904]

The Cards need another 1-2 quality pitcher. They have outfielders for days.

[@Bigbirdreese1600]

The outfielders like siani , Carlson who hit a buck 190.😂😂😂 Let's face it cards aren't a good hitting team. Definitely agree wif ya adding a #2 sp but that won't happen thank your gm ,owner on that.

[@brianr4214]

He allows Mikolas 94 pitches , and 10 ER . This A hole is insane.

[@boschlosser10]

Naw everyone said give him credit for this hot June hHahaha clown show

[@brianr4214]

Mozeliak the Ventriloquist Marmol " The Clown Dummy " !

[@joelweiher1664]

Libby had a big outing against the Braves! How much was related the Wilson coming back??

[@obrother3750]

Idk I think ppl undervalue what Pages and Herrera have done to fill in for him. Most if not all of our winning stretch lately has been without Contreras. Great to have him back but I think Pages could've called just as good of a game.

[@rayrussell6258]

@@obrother3750 I am impressed Contreras is back so soon, but we really didn't lose anything with Herrera and Pages. Libby was getting the Braves to swing at bad pitches. I'm happy for him, but the Braves just came fron NY where I don't think they did well, and lost some confidence. We (and Libby) may have hit them at the right time. Matz is definitely not our #5, but it's going to take more from Libby to elevate him in the plans.

[@icaleinns6233]

LOVE seeing the shirt! I was looking forward to this episode as soon as the game ended last night! Go get pitching. Libby looked outstanding, but they still need another starter. If they've gotta trade some really nice pieces, make SURE it's for something you really need. And this team needs pitching depth.

[@jasonbarton4521]

JD, after filing for divorce from this club and then reconciling more times than I can count, I'm wary of fully embracing this club for fear they'll pull the rug out from under me again. Yet, I haven't been this optimistic since our 17-game winning streak. We're firing on all cylinders DESPITE Goldy and Arenado's vanishing act and w/ holes all over our line-up - poorly constructed to begin w/. Clearly, something's flipped, psychologically, in the clubhouse. You're spot on re: Luis Robert. There's no way we tear down our prospect list in the hopes of catching fire w/ Robert, esp. w/ Nootbaar and Edman yet to resurface. Here's hoping Liberatore's masterpiece last night is legit. It's possible (knock wood) we've finally solved the Matz issue once and for all. Hope springs eternal!

[@mylesrichardson5156]

Been waiting on my boy JD!!

[@byronmcgarrity9018]

Miles Mikolas' total salary this year is $17,666,667. If he starts 32 games, that comes to $552,083 per game. Tonight he gave up 12 hits and 9 earned runs for a total of 21. Therefore, he was paid $26,289 for each hit and run he gave up (let's say the 1 strikeout and 1 walk cancel each other out). Nobody can say he doesn't have a brilliant agent.

[@Bigbirdreese1600]

In miles we trust. Mo , Dewitt love ❤this guy 😍😍. Awesome pitcher .. He's worth every penny. 😂😂😂

[@rayrussell6258]

I am so impressed with Siani, his defense, his hustle and the way he is almost always on the top step of the dugout cheering guys on whether he's in the game or not, he contributes to the offense even without an outstanding batting average, and I want him to get a full chance to be a major leaguer with the Cardinals. We'revwinning games with him in the lineup. So .... No, to Roberts, we don't need outfielders and we don't want to rock the boat with wrong chemistry. Edman will actually be excess right now, the way the outfield is playing. Walker is the guy we need to offer for a front line pitcher like Crochet, not bring in another outfielder.

[@coltharmison7466]

Couldn’t agree more, I’d take Crochet over Robert Jr lmao Gray, Crochet, Lynn, Mikolas and Gibson would be pretty sweet

[@boschlosser10]

Won’t happen to expensive

[@YeohosuaSenpai]

I have a strong feeling they are going to put their chips into getting Tyler Anderson from the Angels. Luis Robert Jr, doesn't make sense to me, they are hunting for the 5th man and publications have backed that up. So it's either Tyler Anderson or Garrett Crochet.

[@rayrussell6258]

Or Michael Lorenzen, who is having a very good season for the Rangers, who might be sellers this year.

[@brettmanus7904]

I wish the Cards would buck up and get another pitcher. Montgomery, Sease, Bieber and more all moved with no apparent attempts by St. Louis. Look how Gray is doing. Imagine having another guy like him. 🤔

[@aeschafer1]

I find it fascinating that you're trying to imply the cardinals didn't try hard enough this off-season and clearly would be better off if they had, then list three pitchers, two of whom would be disasters, either because they're out for the year (Bieber, elbow), or have just been garbage (Montgomery, 5.71 era). Cease has been very good, yes, but if you're going to low key call out the front office for not making more moves, that's a terrible last to use for that purpose.

[@brettmanus7904]

@@aeschafer1 I'm sorry, but there are arms that could be had if they would open the purse strings a bit. The traditional, "Get to the playoffs and see how it goes" doesn't work anymore.

[@Jcards23]

The Cubs are on the edge of the luxury tax. Doubt they add Robert Jr. At least not without subtracting salary

[@muthergoose4084]

I live in Chicago and attend about 25 White Sox games a year. Louis Robert Jr = pass. Too many injuries. Doesn't play hard. It could be that he plays on a bad team. Not worth the price the Sox want. With noot and Tommy coming back and J Walker looming, go get pitching.

[@joshjohnson5884]

good take

[@skywalker700000]

They will ask too much for Robert Jr. especially with other teams bidding for him also. Edman and Noot should help with the outfield offense, and Siani is really starting to get into his groove, already looking like Bader 2.0

[@BillDownton]

They may have not thrown their neither did us

[@brianr4214]

I like Edman , but imo he's damaged goods now. This long a rehab on a wrist surgery, for a guy his age isn't good. Now, add insult to injury with a sprained ankle. I'm not at all impressed with Noot's bat. There's enough dead wood on this team already, being stuck with Arenado. Carlson makes that matter even worse.

[@noahpriest7049]

So since the reds are not playing well means the cardinals will probably get them going, it happens way too much

[@joshjohnson5884]

it happened

[@scott2726]

I will pass on Robert. Noot will be back in center. Siani for D late in the game. Are offence could really be good. Need a starter 1 or 2 to match up with Gray. Liberatore!!awsome start!👏👏👍 spotting up with that slider👍👏 with control and more use! He really can attack the righties now inside or out. This could be a game changer for a starting spot..need consistancy with him. Im seeing a change with Paul G barreling the ball up often hopefully hes locked in with consistency. They had Lopez on the ropes and hes a great pitcher ..very positive..let go of my Gallegos looked ok. That second game of the DH was awsome with 2out hits! Donny Burly doing the job. I WOULD NOT put Willson is the 3slot yet after no live pitching and coming back with a broken arm maybe the 6th slot for now. Thanks JD for the pod👏👍⚾️🏆

[@ericletford1178]

Why should the Cardinals trade for a Outfielder we have lots of OF I I would trade for a reliable fith, starter and a little bull help

[@chrisweidner4768]

No. Happy with Siani. Gold glove CF. Figuring out this hitting thing as well. Carlson also seems to be showing a pulse.

[@billbayes3261]

JD, Matthew is finally starting to figure it out. He's going to be a good one. We also have several up and coming pitchers in the minor leagues. Why trade for anyone? I hate to say this but I think the best trades the Cardinals could make would be to trade Nolan Arenado and Paul Goldshmidt to the Yankees and/or the Dodgers. Both of them deserve a chance to play in the playoffs and possibly the World Series. The potential haul that the Cardinals could get in young players would be the best reason to trade them now. If you look at the last 6 weeks, the Cardinals are making a run for 1st place and Arenado and Goldshmidt are not the ones that are making it happen. Let Burly play first and Donovan play third. Then bring up the best 2 hitters from the minor leagues or 2 out of the trades for Nado and Goldy. Also trade Carlson. Remember, the owner is still Mr Stingy. 😂

[@aeschafer1]

The cardinals are not getting a haul of players from either Goldschmidt or Arenado. Neither have much at all the the way of trade value anymore. I agree that dealing Nolan would be a good idea, but only to get his contact off the books. You're not getting much of anything in return.

[@rayrussell6258]

I don't see much there in return from either of those teams, due to ages of our two (why do you think the Dodgers would want anyone just hanging around not playing to replace Freeman!!!! (or even Muncy when he returns), the Yankees need pitching like we do, not hitters or defense, and yes Goldy and Arenado ARE making things happen. Goldy's batting average is up 40 points during this winning stretch, with a bunch of rbi's. Arenado has been platinum on defense for about 2 weeks. We don't need anything but pitchers, our team chemistry is the best it's been for two years. Now is not going to be the time to make trades, except with minor league prospects we don't need (like Walker) to get pitching from teams that are not going to be in the playoffs.

[@ghostfacegaming22]

Yes a trade fir Robert jr does make sense he's exactly what we need a power hitting future center fielder they should trade walker he's a good trade peice we don't need him we've got plenty of outfielders and he needs a change of scenery obviously he's really a third basemen also if we kept him we should groom him to takover for arronado at the hot corner but ive been on board with luis Robert jr since u 1st said it j.d. go cards!!get both pitching and the bat

[@boschlosser10]

Won’t happen they’ll want the farm and then some

[@eddiejenkins7613]

We need one more ace pitcher to get over the hump I'm telling pitching is everything

[@brianr4214]

Fact is , you have a washed up 3rd baseman , making like a blind squirrel hoping a nut hits his bat, he can still make great plays, but then he muffs the easy ones too often. Have 3 catchers, none of who can throw a runner out stealing bases. A 1st baseman , that's nearing his retirement from baseball. A manager that is scared to leave a starte in beyond 85 pitches unless he's getting hammered . Then he'll let him go 94 pitches and give 10ER's up. You have only 2 regular position guys worthy of an allstar selection Burleson and Donovan. Winn was another , but he sure cooled off last week to 10days.

[@prestonbucher18]

If the plan in the offseason is to let Goldschmidt walk with the intent on playing Walker as the primary at 1B moving forward, then this makes sense…If the idea is to bring back Goldschmidt or toy with the idea of Contreras splitting time at the spot so Herrera gets more time behind the plate, then Walker has to play somewhere at some point unless he’s part of the package. Cardinals already have a looming OF logjam problem on the horizon and this just further complicates it unless the team is going to clear out depth and start to solidify positions for people. I’d much rather they target a number 2 caliber starter to slot behind Sonny Gray and maybe another bullpen arm than adding another OF’er….

[@boschlosser10]

Burleson at first…

[@teambigv]

Cardinals will be outbid for Robert Jr and Crochet. If they look to add a bat they should go after someone like Michael Conforto or Andrew Benintendi. On pitching I would focus in on Fedde or someone on his level and get a solid RP

[@TheAntiSmug]

Even when Goldie and Nado were within their norms, our offense fell short in the post season. Please get a legit bat and roll with the rotation you have.

[@boschlosser10]

Trout is the only bat you could add with them eating money…

[@brianr4214]

Reds have avg'd over last 15 game , 3.5 runs PG. So this _____ allows his starter to give up 10 ER over 4 innings. But pulls Liberatore at 85 pitches yesterday when he was having probably his best outing ever. And pulls Gray after 1 solo HR at i believe 80pitches . Pulls Lynn also recently, at 85 and the Lynn can give ya 8 innings and a 100 pitches. Then uses this worn out pullpen crap to justify leaving Mikolas in to give 10 up over 4 innings. Can me as a fan if ya can't can Marmol. I've seen as much as im willing to.

[@morganconner2012]

Why Robert Jr.? If your going to trade for on outfielder then go for Rooker from Oakland. At least he hasn't even gotten to his arbitration years. I don't think we need an outfielder. We need a decent starting pitcher and bullpen help. I am really on board with a high leverage Bullpen arm.

[@robertadams6606]

Look Lineratore pitched a great game. No doubt however so did Pallante in 2 games, the rest not so good. Maybe he found something IDK but SSS can't go by that. With Burleson & Donavan raking itt's only for a Centerfielder we are l ooking at. Siani seems to be trending upwards & is GG calibre fielder. I've seen trade deals about About Oakland OF teams are looking at. He does have RISP numbers but does strike out too much.

[@boschlosser10]

Look I want MLB the show type trades too… but Mo doesn’t operate like that.. he will go bargain bin shopping.. at best they get Tyler Anderson and a couple bullpen arms… they won’t trade for bats as they see Noot and potentially Edman with a sprained ankle now as guys they traded for

[@ScottG91]

Robert Jr = Tyler O'neil. Good player, always injured. I would stay far away

[@mckinleyroscoe4566]

I'm watching the game today and the Rally Killers are batting 4th and 5th in the lineup. Am I watching different baseball games than Oli? We have shipped struggling players back to AAA, yet Goldschmidt and Arenado continue to be put right in the middle of the lineup for the 2nd season. They have both fallen off and I do not see either of them getting it back to where it used to be even just 2 seasons ago. Tell me I am wrong and that I am not seeing things properly. This is getting ridiculous imo. Jose Fermin was down in AAA just raking it so the Cardinals call him up to watch baseball games? WTF. I am getting frustrated watching this, but maybe I am not watching the games properly and they are not doing that bad.

[@boschlosser10]

No Arenado 100% needs to bat 7th.. even though he had a HR he had bases loaded 1 out early and popped up.. he looks unhappy

[@mckinleyroscoe4566]

I agree with you

[@randybarrett4195]

I'm the guy who mentioned Contreras and your oozing of his abilities as I disagree. Why is Contreras such a good catcher when he average is always around ,260 and Herrera is hitting over ,300. Pages is a good defensive catcher. Siana is batting .230. only .30 points less. Are the Cards loaded in the outfield on infield, Burleson and Donovan need to play. How about first and 2nd. Winn at short and Gorman at 3rd. You have two catchers leaving the outfield open Noot, Siana, Walker, Scott and Edman. Trade the three old guys and rebuild your team. 100 million dollars can pay for a lot of victory's

[@boschlosser10]

You must of forgot who makes the cardinals moves not happening

[@WhangaFish]

I love the show team I really do. But these trade talk episodes are really just talking for the sake of it. If you're going to say something that you feel like you have to follow up with "this isn't going to happen" then surely that tells you something. I don't mean to troll just sharing some feed back. Otherwise keep up the great work

[@dennissmith5042]

Hell,Selina hitting better than Gorman,not power wise , but he gets a hit or 2

[@joerediger8099]

Why are you wearing the worst Margaritaville giveaway shirt?

[@Jens-we3vg]

This is still a transition year, this isnt a world series caliber team even with robert jr. I like Robert but i love our prospects more, give it time. We can see what the FA market looks like and make changes then. Dewitt needs to spend more money.

[@larry690]

With this inactive FO never happen.

[@roballen8431]

Besides i thought we had too many outfielders

[@stephenconnell2689]

The Cardinals and White Sox can both come away winners. They have about 5 players that could make us a legitimate contender in the postseason. We have about 10 good players to rebuild their team. Our players like Baker, Suggesse, Prieto, Scott, even Walker for the right combination of players. Pitching we have 5 or 6 that will be blocked here. Example Zack Thompson, Graceffo, Mc Creevy, even Hence if Crochet, Fedde, and Roberts in the deal. If that's too big, how Rooker from the A's along with their closer?

[@boschlosser10]

This ain’t mlb the show

[@stephenconnell2689]

@@boschlosser10 I don't understand the comment, I never watch that show.

[@Dantheman06-ib3td]

Need starting pitcher. Should be cheaper for a # 3 or 4. Don't have to empty the farm.

[@Bigbirdreese1600]

They need an Outfielder who can hit ,get on base,another solid sp. Cant count on tommy ,walker or noot.. Unfortunately your gm ,owner wont make a deal. They will sign a washed up rental 35 year old ++ for peanuts. 😂😂

[@Cheeseheadmatt93]

I don’t think OF is the right move. I truly believe we need to move off arenado and get another corner piece with some pop. Nolan’s is what he is now you don’t go this long of a slump and snap out of it all of the sudden

[@boschlosser10]

Needs to bat 7th

[@dennissmith5042]

Trade??? If aronado,Gorman would just hitting constantly we'd be fine and I'd palante and libatore would pitch like they just did ,we'd be fine , Bullpen help

[@homespuncovers89]

Gorman has a shot at beating Babe Ruth’s record… For strikeouts

[@dennissmith5042]

@@homespuncovers89 lol , maybe if he starts hitting, I just want 1 baseline for now

[@BillDownton]

No they will want too nuch

[@davidshowmaker4408]

They need an outfielder who can hit and make plays so yes!

[@JohnShanholtz-vy6ol]

They need more pitching not Luis Robert!!!

[@jjjackson1977]

Will his stats, the cards probably will trade for him. They are terrible. He’s not as good as outfielder they have.

[@CadenHargrove]

Does anyone think that the Cardinals should sign Juan Soto in the off-season?

[@muthergoose4084]

nope not for the money he will ask for. rather spend the money on pitching.

[@danzemacabre8899]

With the numbers he's putting up ,the yanks won't be outbid for his services, they can can sniff a pennant and it's been a long time since the Yankees have been to the series, I'm sure it's no holds barred with that core they have now for a few seasons

[@roballen8431]

Why give away any prospects for guys who leave after a year?you guys bitch no end about azoreana

[@danzemacabre8899]

@roballen8431 that's what other teams want, and it if your trying to win now you treading water if your trading talent from the roster unless you have an abundance of something but you have to find the right trade partner , it's a two way street , we aren't dictating the transaction when you are coming from a buyers perspective and more times than not prospects don't pan out it seems like they do but more times than not they fizzle and the team that receives the proven major league talent wins out on the production side , and prospects are inflated by the more successful organizations for this purpose right now, so unless your going to games in Springfield or Memphis, Peoria, jersey or Florida , we don't know how good or what the upside is or the ceiling is on most of these prospects are and in baseball so much more than physical talent comes into play ,most of these guys crap out bec ause of how much you fail in the and how does a player handle that ,jordan walker has struggled with that and he's full of talent but it might not be enough

[@roballen8431]

@@danzemacabre8899 i go to games springfield.redmon is buredtheir becsuse walkers in memphis.i do not want to gut the farm of pitching prospects hence herpjes are to good to be given away

[@Austin_Dale]

I do not want Robert

[@MerryHoneyBee-xc4tl]

What the Cardinals need is Jeff Lunow to come back. He knows how to put together a good farm system.

[@danzemacabre8899]

Really..teams playing well and that's where your minds at? That's some straight up Cubby mindset, I guess want to blow the team up too and get some fat guys with shorts and flip flops with a keg at every base and hope Jeff fixes it . Maybe he teach our guys trash can Morse code ,that will help

[@noahpriest7049]

No! Why does everyone want white Sox players, they’re bad for a reason, players!

[@brianr4214]

What kind of a manager takes guys out when pitching great , at 75 to 85 pitches. Then like tonight leaves Mikolas in to give 9 or 10 runs up over 4 innings. I hate this guy. I hate the thought of wasting my time tuning in only for this fraud to make a mockery of everyone's time watching.