Does ARGENTI'S Lightcone UNDERPERFORM Compared to 4 Star Lightcones?

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KripThirteen

KripThirteen

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@KripThirteen
@KripThirteen 11 ай бұрын
To clear up the confusion on why I didn't include "Make the World Clamor", it was because we can fill in the gaps with the info we have. At S5 MTWC has the same DMG bonus as S5 Battlepass LC but only applies to the Ultimate and the Battlepass applies to everything. So we can conclude that it'll be below the battlepass with the 3 turn rotation I used. Then, with how close Geniuses' Repose was to the Battlepass LC, the gaps should be able to be filled in. This is from a pure damage standpoint. The extra energy could be the all the difference to get his momentum rolling faster. This was all mentioned in my previous Argenti video, check it out if you haven't already.
@mrd7532
@mrd7532 11 ай бұрын
I love that the same VA voices Argenti and Huohuo's Tail
@Lumiere192
@Lumiere192 11 ай бұрын
Genuinely confused at why serval lc wasnnt included when it gives 64% damage boost on ultimate?
@cocoapuff_x
@cocoapuff_x 11 ай бұрын
not that deep to where u needed to comment it twice but also i agree 😍😍
@EKTOS
@EKTOS 11 ай бұрын
Yeah if i ever pull on argenti which i will not im just gonna get serval and be done with it(btw argenti lc is pretty good and imma pull it for either my himeko or qq bcause its hard to take jy lc everytime i use them)
@wyvernmounir530
@wyvernmounir530 11 ай бұрын
Too low base atk on serval weapon
@EKTOS
@EKTOS 11 ай бұрын
@@wyvernmounir530 if u have atk buffer this will not be a problem hanya tingyun huohuo are all great options
@Lumiere192
@Lumiere192 11 ай бұрын
@@wyvernmounir530 it has the same as the other choices that are 4 star
@jc-9188
@jc-9188 11 ай бұрын
I didnt want argenti, but now out of spite for this video. Im gonna get him and his lightcone
@Saberdud
@Saberdud 11 ай бұрын
why out of spite
@Alex-mu6sm
@Alex-mu6sm 11 ай бұрын
Incredibly based.
@Ohmygh0st
@Ohmygh0st 11 ай бұрын
Same here lmao
@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483
@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 11 ай бұрын
Out of spite against who lol? KZbin comments? They don't care about ya😅
@SM-oc4rc
@SM-oc4rc 11 ай бұрын
Don't let others decide where your money goes??? What is this logic? You want it, get it. Don't put your responsibility of choosing to get his LC on some video you watched.
@jikookietings2507
@jikookietings2507 11 ай бұрын
Himeko’s LC is only effective against weakness broken enemies, so Argenti’s LC is better because it’s unconditional.
@heilamwether8911
@heilamwether8911 11 ай бұрын
I mean, more like crowds, since it directly builds off of # of enemies, and then adds an addition buff for weakness breaks.
@jikookietings2507
@jikookietings2507 11 ай бұрын
@@heilamwether8911 If anything, that makes it even more conditional and thus, even worse than before.
@silverhawkscape2677
@silverhawkscape2677 11 ай бұрын
Literally. Between Jingyuan and his light cone. E4 Qingque with Jing Yuan Lightcone is better than Jingyuan and his light cone.
@ABC-yj6cy
@ABC-yj6cy 11 ай бұрын
Nobody cares really. The game (including MoC) is so easy I only needed to use 4s characters to clear everything
@dolplatinum4703
@dolplatinum4703 11 ай бұрын
no
@HighHeNah
@HighHeNah 11 ай бұрын
Nope Argenti light cone is better compare to Jing Yaun light cone. Qingque 140 cost s1 Argenti cone gives 50.4% to all damage. This includes follow-up, enhance attack, and burst. Jing Yaun light cone only gives 18% ultimate dmg and 48% follow-up. It doesn't buff her enhance attack. For Jing Yaun with Argenti s1 lightcone gives 46.8% to all damage. Basic attack, skill, follow-up, and ultimate. Jing Yaun light only gives 18% to his skill and ultimate. 48% to follow-up 1.2% higher than Argenti lightcone
@owowonn
@owowonn 11 ай бұрын
News flash: no one asked
@JunaKina-y9b
@JunaKina-y9b 11 ай бұрын
where? i smell copium @@ABC-yj6cy
@skylandonearth
@skylandonearth 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your vid ! I was just debating what lightcone to give him but he has too many nice options. Ty for the analyze !
@JunaKina-y9b
@JunaKina-y9b 11 ай бұрын
*5 LC is better stat wise Argenti LC is tailored for his kit So TLDR: his lc is not underperforming
@Saberdud
@Saberdud 11 ай бұрын
i love that tekken ost you use in the second half of every video
@seraphlazuli6251
@seraphlazuli6251 11 ай бұрын
I’m almost S5 for Peaceful Day and was giving it to Jing Yuan, but now I’m going to get Jing Yuan’s light cone upon rerun and give Peaceful Day to Argenti.
@wyvernmounir530
@wyvernmounir530 11 ай бұрын
I mean i liked his signature LC especially the picture xD the bonus dmg from his ult should be more by 0.45% like this and the crit dmg is good add , i heard that his LC before was buffing his ult and E xD now only his Ult , they should've added a utility buff like increasing er or something like lunae weapon cuz now his LC isnt something special
@lucas2mazini
@lucas2mazini 11 ай бұрын
Probably I'll be using Serval cone if the Argenti's signature doesn't want to come... Actually I think Serval is even better than the Pass cone 👀 64% ultimate damage and +30 energy regeneration in the beggining of fight, I think it's a great option. But sure, I'll try the signature, I hope it comes to me ❤
@infectedtheretardshunter1987
@infectedtheretardshunter1987 11 ай бұрын
Its give around 54 energy Not 30
@cofume
@cofume 11 ай бұрын
@@infectedtheretardshunter1987 20 at s1 and 32 at s5
@lucas2mazini
@lucas2mazini 11 ай бұрын
​@@infectedtheretardshunter1987err no? 32 bro
@infectedtheretardshunter1987
@infectedtheretardshunter1987 11 ай бұрын
@@lucas2mazini yeah mb
@runic6452
@runic6452 11 ай бұрын
if you don't wanna spend, s5 breakfast is the best one you can get for free (5star stats on the mtwc is pretty tempting but never buy that on the shop, only use it when you get unlucky on pulls)
@tacodyr
@tacodyr 11 ай бұрын
As someome who is planning to main him. Here are all of the options you could easily throw on him. Sig ofc Genius repose at least S3 (High attack and crit damage buff) Breakfast Servals LC (great cuz it gives the same amount of ult buff and a lot of energy on entry, which will get his first ult up quicker) Himeko LC Imo if you have genius repose at S5 it'll perform pretty equally to his signature at S1 as it'll give 32% attack and 48% crit damage for 3 turns upon defeating an enemy.
@vl_toxin_lv
@vl_toxin_lv 11 ай бұрын
Make the world clamor??? What about that I’m pretty sure it’s way better then everything but his S5 lightcone
@mikecalico
@mikecalico 11 ай бұрын
Seriously it gives energy and buffs ultimate dmg by 64% at s5 but people still recommend seriousness of breakfast 😭😭😭
@Daredevil-jc7du
@Daredevil-jc7du 11 ай бұрын
Sleek design pretty weak am skipping this shit..I can't deny his design looks cool but it doesn't reflect damage wise how underwhelming
@adrianocaceresromero1557
@adrianocaceresromero1557 8 ай бұрын
do you think it's better his signature or a f2p lightcone (S5 Seriousness of breakfast) with his e1
@causeexoareexoiamanexo-l9279
@causeexoareexoiamanexo-l9279 11 ай бұрын
I don't want to pull for his lc and I have geniuses' repose. Should I build him?
@DeathThePenguin
@DeathThePenguin 11 ай бұрын
Have you calc'ed Make the world clamor S5?
@Mmaniac93
@Mmaniac93 11 ай бұрын
They really want people to summon on JYs rerun banner. Most other Elation LCs are garbage
@user-hz7pg7wf5p
@user-hz7pg7wf5p 11 ай бұрын
You mean eridition?
@EKTOS
@EKTOS 11 ай бұрын
Erudition not elation that two different paths my friend
@AraYuannn
@AraYuannn 10 ай бұрын
Did anyone use argenti with jy lc? I'm feeling lazy to lvl up another lc
@milk3782
@milk3782 11 ай бұрын
What about JY lightcone ? Is it better than S5 Breakfast?
@juanparrales7311
@juanparrales7311 11 ай бұрын
The battle pass LC is really good but to be R5 its 60 dollars.... at that point is cheaper to just hope to be lucky with Argenti banner LOL
@abdulwaduod11
@abdulwaduod11 11 ай бұрын
I have S4 himeko weapon cause i keep losing the 75% and i don't even have himeko...................., i guess i will get argenti altough i have super cracked jingyuan
@floofzykitty5072
@floofzykitty5072 11 ай бұрын
I don't think people realise how bad "Make the World Clamor" is. It is quite possibly the worst 4 star Erudition LC because it ONLY increases Ultimate damage. The extra energy is nice, but it's one time. One time effects are not strong, you typically see those on 3 star LCs). Argenti isn't just some character that only exists when his ultimate is up, he's going to be using his skill every turn. Having say, a general 24% damage increase is comparable or even comparable to a 64% Ultimate specific increase because it applies to both the Skill and the Ult.
@shunieshunshun
@shunieshunshun 11 ай бұрын
I'm still REALLY confused. It says "When the wearer casts their Ultimate, Damage will be increased according to Max Energy." It would directly mean that it buffs the ultimate, but what about using the Ultimate first before Skill/ Basic Attack? Will the buff be carried until the end of the turn? (This almost reminds me of the Asta lightcone's description which is so confusing lmao...)
@HighHeNah
@HighHeNah 11 ай бұрын
You take total energy cost and multiple .36 or 36%. Doesn't matter if the burst gauge is empty or full. This buff last infinite the higher the energy cost to get most of the effect. It doesn't say when the wearer car their ultimate -Qingque burst energy cost is 140 140x.36=50.4% 50.4% to all damage normal, skill, follow-up, and burst -Serval burst cost is 100 100x.36= 36% This also buff shock damage but not weakness break shock -Herta burst 110 110x.36=39.6% -Hemiko burst 120 43.2% This is also buffs burn damage if your lucky with hemiko 50% hit rate. Does buff weakness break burn -Jing Yaun burst 130 46.8% -Argenti burst 180 64.8%
@HighHeNah
@HighHeNah 11 ай бұрын
Oh wait they changed it. Before it was the same as battle pass lightcone with crit damage. You can still use the dmg% for all the characters I listed. It only buffs ultimate damage and nothing else
@JunaKina-y9b
@JunaKina-y9b 11 ай бұрын
if u use the weak ultimate when argenti has 179 energy, it will hit hard maybe?
@HighHeNah
@HighHeNah 11 ай бұрын
@user-bv7ow9bh6y s1 lightcone will take max energy cost even if you his use weak burst. The ultimate damage is still going to do 64.8% for weak and full ultimate.
@sabartgameplay
@sabartgameplay 11 ай бұрын
My next DPS 😂 look like diluc
@StrongestDebunker
@StrongestDebunker 11 ай бұрын
The 6 extra hits happen on a random enemy, it's not each hit on a random enemy. The game will decide one enemy to take all the 6 hits
@SM-oc4rc
@SM-oc4rc 11 ай бұрын
Damn really? That is worse.... EXTREMELY luck reliant then. This will suck in Pure Fiction.
@StrongestDebunker
@StrongestDebunker 11 ай бұрын
@@SM-oc4rc bro... How is it bad if his AOE is the strongest? Also he can be usefull in cleaning weaker enemies and strong ones
@SM-oc4rc
@SM-oc4rc 11 ай бұрын
Any one of the 5 enemies in field will take ALL 6 hits right? So there is only a 20%chance that this 6-hit-1-target extra attack will hit the enemy you want it to hit@@StrongestDebunker The char won't work very well for Pure Fiction where we will ALWAYS have 5 enemies on field. Unless they are all fodder.
@StrongestDebunker
@StrongestDebunker 11 ай бұрын
@@SM-oc4rc but that's not a problem, he still has the biggest AoE damage percentage with 280% of damage on all enemies
@SM-oc4rc
@SM-oc4rc 11 ай бұрын
We will need to see this in practice. It is 80% more ATK scaling than the other 5*ERUDITION character (who has 200% on Ult) but at the cost of waiting twice as long. My advice to everybody who is on the fence about pulling him is to wait for 10 days after banner launch.@@StrongestDebunker
@Ancient.0ne
@Ancient.0ne 8 ай бұрын
Can you do S5 Today Is Another Peaceful Day and S5 The Day The Cosmos Fell
@Lumiere192
@Lumiere192 11 ай бұрын
S5 it takes time and costs like 50-70 dollars
@zeronine535
@zeronine535 11 ай бұрын
Lemme fix the thumbnail - Argenti not needed? And answer - nope 😂
@thebananashark8016
@thebananashark8016 11 ай бұрын
Anyone who is considering serval lc or wondering why it wasnt included, its a shit light cone and it wont be an option for argenti. Its the same way the birth of the self (herta lc) isnt an option on jing yuan, even tho it buffs the strongest part of his kit. So dont bother with it
@mikecalico
@mikecalico 11 ай бұрын
Wait seriously? Can you explain more on how it's shit?
@mikecalico
@mikecalico 11 ай бұрын
@joemamadeeznuts69 I'm f2p so if I can't get his sig I'll use mtwc I think-- is it better than breakfast and the lc with Ruan Mei?
@thebananashark8016
@thebananashark8016 11 ай бұрын
@@mikecalico A lightcone that buffs the strongest part of a character’s kit doesnt make it BIS/a very good option, it neglects other parts of his kit (his skill, which you will be surprised actually contributes a decent amount, just like jing yuan’s ultimate and skill, hence why birth of the self is not a good option on him). This will be even more important in the pure fiction mode, which will probably be argenti’s best mode. if its just endless waves of 5 enemies, that skill is going to be contributing tons, so using clamor which doesnt buff it at all will do worse than other lightcones. 5 star options, peaceful day, breakfast, and even repose will definitely be better. I would only use clamor over 3* options, though clamor isnt so horrible that you cant consider it if you had some super impositions higher than other 4* options.
@mikecalico
@mikecalico 11 ай бұрын
@@thebananashark8016 I see 😭 thank you for letting me know!
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