Does DARK FORCES Still Hold Up?

[@InSanic13]

Can't wait until Dark Forces II gets remastered, and we can get an upscaled look at unmasked Tusken Raiders.

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

@InSanic13 Heh. Go look up Ruppertle on youtube. He's doing it for free remastering Dark Forces II on the unreal 5 engine. You can play the first two levels.

[@J0rdan912]

This one is a must have. I don't even care about enhanced features and improved assets, this game is one of the most infamous examples of boomshots that almost impossible to run and play properly even with full bundle of community fixes.

[@TheExFatal]

MORGAN KATARN!!.....

[@NcWcN1]

@@TheExFatal "this dead man hold's the Valley's location..."

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

@@NcWcN1 Very Intriguing... heh-heh, I have no further use for you, OLD MAN!

[@nighthawk244]

Star wars has such a rich history in gaming its kinda crazy

[@aamirrazak3467]

Agreed so many great Star Wars games like og battlefront 2 KOTOR 2 KOTOR republic commando rogue squadron Jedi academy, dark forces Lego Star Wars etc. Star Wars has had some fantastic games for decades

[@Ralkila]

I would recommend shadow of the empire but you have to understand that it is better to play it as an FPS change the camera and configure the controls to have strafing available in your way and that's it you will have a good time if you bypass this little hustle. This game formula is what the series need, many modes and different grades of achievement on top of collectables it was way ahead of its time. One of my favorites on the n64 although it is original for the PC. Rogue squadron series is a must if you like the concept of ships and missions.

[@Handlelesswithme]

This is what happens when someone that cares about their work has licensing agreements

[@alexello1189]

It’s very interesting to analyze the history of Star Wars and video games in general. It’s been claimed that early games like space invaders or yars revenge were inspired by the success of a new hope to go with a sci-fi theme / approach.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Gotta love collecting a buncha great Legends classics for my PC gaming library. A lot of people are just missing out on the likes of TIE Fighter and Empire at War.

[@xMcWeenx]

I enjoy old fps games leaving the corpses on the floor. They were like breadcrumbs telling you where you had been in the maze like levels.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Very much true.

[@Gruntvc]

Return to Castle Wolfenstein was able to leave enemy corpses in the levels back in 2001. There's modern AAA FPS games that don't do this.

[@idiot_city5444]

​@Gruntvc I honestly can't think of a single modern game that leaves dead bodies haha, maybe FC? Of course I haven't played everything but it's so annoying how rare it is these days

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@idiot_city5444 FC?

[@idiot_city5444]

@@michaelandreipalon359 far cry

[@dcflake5645]

Fun fact: The ps1 port of this used the cpu for its entirety of its graphics so although it doesnt look as good its one the few 3D Ps1 games that features no texture warping or messed up polys.

[@Gruntvc]

They should remaster the PS1 port of Space Hulk: Vengence of The Blood Angels. The two Medal of Honor PS1 games could use a remaster as well.

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@JamesA4]

I still get PTSD when I hear the beep of the hidden mines. 😵‍💫

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@megaman37456]

@@Ihatevideogames334 Cool, now why don't you scroll the comments section and look for someone who cares.

[@aamirrazak3467]

Great to see this game get a modern remaster, respect to night dive for that! And same I played a bunch of Star Wars games growing up

[@ryanhamilton579]

They do great work. Same as they did for the Turok games

[@aamirrazak3467]

@@ryanhamilton579agreed would be cool to see them remaster rogue squadron and more other Star Wars games as well

[@michaelandreipalon359]

If only they don't do the occasional duds, like Blade Runner: Enhanced Edition... thank goodness they didn't outright delist the original release back then.

[@morkgin2459]

@@michaelandreipalon359 duds? The only dud is that. Blood fresh supply is unfinished as they have lost the license

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@morkgin2459 You sure it's unfinished? Perhaps you missed a lot updates lately.

[@FutureJacket]

Flandrew, there's a few reasons I like your channel and thought I'd mention it. You have a great voice. You have a great calm but still relatively fast paced cadence when you're talking. It's mostly straight to the point. Your Vtuber avatar is very cute. You do that thing where you sound super surprised or fascinated about random aspects of the game that sound very tongue in cheek. As soon as I heard there was a remaster I skipped all the reviews to see if you made one.

[@amazedsatsuma]

I actually played the original for the first time last year along with the other Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games...and it still holds up with the use of the fan created Force Engine

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@QullVideo]

Being able to play Dark Forces with true mouse look and improved visuals has been amazing. I really enjoy what Nightdive have been doing with this and Quake 1 and 2. Let's just hope that we can look forward to a Nightdive remaster for Jedi Knight Dark Forces 2.

[@janoycresva919]

A free source port already existed that sovled all thoose problems called the force engine

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@Boyer316]

Moff Florida Man killed me

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@obiwanfinetti9754]

@@Ihatevideogames334you good bro?

[@VWGearhead952]

Something about you punching that probe droid had me dying! Same with hearing Kyle falling to his death

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@thefulld6650]

6:58 best cut away segment.

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@tavelkyosoba]

I played this as a 10 year old when it came out. It's so weird that the remastered version looks exactly how i remember the game looking, while the original quality makes me question how i could see anything at all lmao

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@johtajakansio]

Prison elevators and the vault made my head hurt

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@AtaeHone]

Still one of the best Star Wars games ever made: not obsessed with shoving Jedi into every crevice, leans heavily onto worldbuilding, pushes the envelope of the genre far enough to still be approachable these days, and the guns all sound SO TASTY which is a thing a lot of sci-fi shooters foolishly neglect.

[@KodyCrimson]

I played Dark Forces for the first time last year, the Dianoga's scared the crud out of me so badly. They're easily the scariest horror monster because you can't see where they're hiding, their sounds are constant, and they'll always appear right in your face. Honestly they have scarred me enough that I refuse to go into water in any older Star Wars games now.

[@Rschr101]

The Shadows of the Empire sewer level still creeps me the hell out.

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@DallingerM]

If memory serves me right, you could jump in Dark Forces too which you couldn’t do in the original Doom, unfortunately he could only jump a foot of the ground, Lucas Arts missed out, they could’ve really expanded the adventuring aspect of the game ... Awesome review Flandrew! I’m always looking forward to what you’re bringing out next!

[@simounobrien9096]

Dark Forces 2 actually did that :D

[@DallingerM]

@@simounobrien9096 I’m not as old as I thought 😅 thanks brah!

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@TheMoviePlanet]

As a kid I loved this game...but could never get past the third level. Finally went back to it 2/3 years back and beat the whole thing and it was a great feeling.

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@TheMoviePlanet]

@@Ihatevideogames334 Good for you?

[@giffordsamuelson2163]

The free aim is a game changer. This game was soooooper hard with the “page up” and “page down”

[@thecommentor3845]

10:39 "Full invincibility toggle" is there something you would like to tell us?

[@JohnAGalvanArt]

I enjoyed your video and how you view the game for playing it for the first time. I've been playing it since it came out and its what got me into Star Wars originally when I saw this demoed at my local Comp USA store at the time, we had to upgrade the family computer just to run this game since it used CD-Rom which was new at the time, but it was so worth it, I only got like 15 to 20fps , but it was beautiful. The remaster is a bit pricy but It would be the first time I spent my own money on it, since originally it was a gift back in the 90s , and then a welcome to steam gift from a friend who got me back into pc gaming. It is very interesting to see those that didn't have nostalgia play this, and still end up loving it, love your videos, they are all nostalgic fun.

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@seadaesy]

​@@Ihatevideogames334 John 3:16 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

[@RyanHaney55]

I remember being surprised that we had to rescue Crix Madine in Rogue Squadron.

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@RyanHaney55]

@@Ihatevideogames334 Well, good for you. Why are you telling me this?

[@megaman37456]

@@RyanHaney55 It's a bot, just report them for spam and move on.

[@-Down-D-Stairs-]

It warms my heart knowing Florida Man is a thing even in the UK.

[@TheDeadmandillon]

Oh this fuckin' game brings back some childhood PTSD for me. And it was ALWAYS THE SECOND GODDAMN MISSION!!! Even the first mission had it's moments where it was just dark shadowy areas that made it difficult to navigate through. Five year old me back in 1999 would've been asking someone else to get me through that second mission. Ehh what the hell?... I guess I can give it another try to see if I still get PTSD from it.

[@zachgoodrich6100]

Dark Forces was one of my childhood favorites as far as PC games go. This remaster was my first time completing a single playthrough without using cheats. Certain games I like to hunt for achievements and Star Wars Dark Forces Remaster is my newest game on Steam where I unlocked all achievements in out of my total of 38 Perfect Games on Steam that I rock as of the moment of writing this comment. Nice video btw!

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@MrMoorkey]

My memory of Dark Forces is going to a friend's house to play it, as we didn't have a PC, and suffering the most epic motion sickness ever. Never played again after that one time.

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@that_one_guy_named_rami]

To prepare for this remaster's release, I replayed the original to build up the hype. I do hope that they remaster Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight and its expansion, Mysteries of the Sith.

[@OmegaS-117]

This was 1 of my childhood PC Games

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@Gravinus]

I couldnt get past that damn Prison level as a kid. For some reason my pre 10 yr old mind couldnt figure out how to line the elevators up to get to the next area.

[@yarpen26]

That was arguably the hardest puzzle in the whole game. Was stuck on this for hours back when I was playing it in 2016. Can't believe how long it took me to figure out you get to clear the way to the by sending away the elevator without boarding it first.

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@Ralkila]

I remember the first time i played this, it was a shareware demo but for me as a kid it was gigantic. Coming from having Doom, Heretic, Hexen and such this was like seeing the next level lol.

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@Mortablunt]

I played this so much as a kid!

[@UlrichWrangel]

This remake is worth every penny of the $30. I'll never forget the first time I saw the Dark Forces demo playing on a computer inside Circuit City back in 1995. Stopped me in my tracks. Went on to spend hundreds of hours playing Dark Forces, making custom levels, had an enthusiast webpage on GeoCities, etc. Fast forward to this new remaster, I'm now 40 years old, but this makes me feel 12 all over again.

[@johannlabertaler6095]

I mean, yeah, it's nice that it suits your notalgia so much, but T H I R T Y dollars for a mere upscale "remaster" with modernized engine is still really expensive and unjustified. There's no way there actually is thirty dollars of work in there.

[@mandalorianhunter1]

Dang i was just bingeing your videos when you put this up. I really hope they make Kyle canon again. I grew up with Jedi outcast, so i hope they let him return.

[@aamirrazak3467]

Same Kyle katarn is a great character w a cool story who should be canon imo

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@aamirrazak3467 same, his backstory was great. However, with how Disney made the series go, Kyle either dies due to Kylo or he must train with Rey.

[@SpScarletSpider]

Unfortunately, I don't think it'll happen. They ripped off a lot of Kyle's story in Rogue One and in Star Wars Rebels. Cassian Andor is pretty much Kyle, and Kanan is pretty much Kyle and Rahm Kota. Jyn Erso is Jan Ors (even the name is an anagram relating to Jan) if Jan was the main character of Dark Forces, and they used the Darktroopers already on the Mandalorian. it would have to be a total reboot in order to make Kyle make sense within the story.

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@SpScarletSpider I didn't even think of that, though I think he could still work

[@SpScarletSpider]

@@mandalorianhunter1 It would just be a lot of work I suppose. They could still do Kyle's fight with the Seven Dark Jedi, but a lot of Kyle's appeal is in his origin and the fact that he's a former Imperial turned Rebel agent, so they'd really have to work to shoehorn him in. I still think Disney should admit their mistakes and just do a full-on reboot of the series to bring back some of the characters people like in full, but that's just me.

[@EskChan19]

Fun Fact: In Star Wars Empire at War Forces of Corruption the Empire actually gets the Arc Hammer as a hero unit, that allows you to produce Dark Troopers when it orbits a planet.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Shame it seems to not be available for the campaign, because of legitimate plot reasons.

[@Ihatevideogames334]

I HATE Star Wars Dark Forces I HATE Star Wars I HATE First Person Shooter Games I HATE Remake Game I HATE Remastered Game I HATE Nightdive Studios I HATE Lucasarts Games

[@nicholascooney]

This seems cool. I hope they do something like this for Shadows Of The Empire. Hell, The Super Star Wars games in Wide screen with better 3D for the vehicle sections would be dope. (like how the 3D Special Stages in Sonic 2 got improved in the Whitehead version)

[@robertparker6280]

YES! Shadows Of The Empire NEEDS it!

[@michaelandreipalon359]

The Super Star Wars games may be really hard, but dang, I would love to legally get them for my PC gaming library.

[@DamienDarkside]

I loved Shadows, it definitely needs a remaster.

[@Jolis_Parsec]

@DamienDarkside Indeed, though if they do remaster it, they should use the PC port as a base to work from since it has animated cutscenes as well as the guy who voices Canderous in KOTOR playing the role of Dash Rendar.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@Jolis_Parsec Useful, since some can argue that the PC port has polish. They better use the GOG port as a template, however. Heard the Steam version has more roughness.

[@thepopmanbrad]

its crazy how were getting all these old game releases or remasters

[@aamirrazak3467]

True but in a way it’s good that these classic games are returning to modern consoles w better graphic

[@woldemunster9244]

@@aamirrazak3467 Better graphics? texture filtering was a thing even back then.

[@sunsetman22]

call me an oldhead, but it also speaks to the sheer scarcity of quality titles nowadays. (scarcity, not absence)

[@aamirrazak3467]

@@sunsetman22 that’s fair the quality and consistency of media seems to have declined for a while now, and not that many good games or movies are releasing consistently nowadays

[@jacobneumann5021]

Disney sh*t the bed with STAR WARS hard. Many have gone back the Extended Universe for better stories

[@Genshion]

Legitimately so happy they remastered this game. I hope they remaster the others eventually

[@thejonathan130]

I got this Starward demo collection for Christmas when I was 12 or 13. It came with the first 3 levels of Dark Forces along with Rebel Assault 1+2, Tie Fighter and a making of one of the movies DVD.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

The Rebel Assault duology is nowadays cringe and unfairly hard, but I can easily re-recommend TIE Fighter in its Collector's CD-ROM Edition.

[@LungMing23]

Those were the glory days of Lucasarts. Good games coming out every year.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@LungMing23 Though there are the occasional duds, like the aforementioned Rebel Assault duology, Force Commander, and maybe even Jedi Power Battles.

[@Tk-427]

You gonna do an N64 Shadows of the Empire video next? I got a whole lot of nostalgia with that one.

[@Flandrew]

Definitely doing it in the near future

[@michaelandreipalon359]

What about the PC port, especially the one in GOG?

[@muwuny]

1:10 Both of those were pioneered by Marathon in 1994, not sure why everyone always gives Dark Forces the credit

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Flandrew really needs to try those out too, even if it won't be as memorable as MandaloreGaming's take on them.

[@CrazyxEnigma]

Marathon(December 1994) predates Dark Forces(March 1995) by merely three months and with the Star Wars name attached more people played it thus the belief Dark Forces did it first. According to sales numbers from back then Marathon by 2002 had sold less than 200,000 units, conversely by 1999 Dark Forces had passed 900,000 units sold.

[@michaelhubbard9497]

Would love to see you do a shadows of the empire review! Maybe that’ll get a remaster someday.

[@todaythebirds]

Moff Rebus looks like a Breaking Bad villain

[@tubedude26666]

I always loved how his assistent/helpers name was Jyn Erso, I mean Jan Ores (coincidence?)

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Jan *Ors,* you mean.

[@tubedude26666]

@@michaelandreipalon359 Yup, you're right. It's been a while since I played the game. Still don't think their names are a coincidence though...

[@aydenjenkins8760]

One of my favorite Star Wars games and a welcome remaster. I love how it still keeps the original look and feel of the original game, while adding some upscaling and improved controls. It makes it the definitive way to play the game for both newcomers and fans of the original. Definitely one of the best remasters. Only problem is the price, I do not think it is worth $30.

[@timthomas598]

I love it! I hope they do Dark Forces 2 next!

[@Littlemilkjug533]

I hope it succeeds so we get more and more remasters

[@diesel7835]

Another AWESOME video @Flandrew !! You are hilarious!

[@requiemcollectiblesgaming]

Interesting how i didn't notice the glow option in my copy. Only the force engine seemed to have it.

[@megaman37456]

There actually is one BIG QOL feature of the remaster that isn't mentioned. It can play a good chunk of the custom missions fans have made for the original game, NightDive have even said they're working on patch for the remaster to make it so as many custom missions will work as possible. I have at least 20 custom missions that work on the remaster.

[@csav1551]

I also didn't play this buut I did play Dark Forces 2 and Mysteries of the Sith and man they were awesome.

[@thiagovidal6137]

0:44 Matter of fact it's been modernised with a lower frame rate actually. The original DOS version was a 70fps game.

[@scimbrelo]

I vividly remember this game coming out. I was 8 years old and this game is what prompted my dad to get a cd rom drive for the PC. I think the first time I remember staying up past midnight was playing this game with my dad The graphics seemed as close to real life as anything I’d ever seen. lol. Guess you had to be there

[@J0rdan912]

I'm sure that Turok 1-2, Dark Forces, Exhumed and Shadow Man remasters could've benefit from a "compass" feature like in Quake 2 remaster. Some of these games level design is utter nightmare, especially corridor- and sewer-like locations, so no, "this is 30 years old game" doesn't really work here and aged like milk, this is not Doom or Quake with sophisticated and copy-paster, but brilliant bite-sized maps.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Then be ready for trying to be big brained then. Real life doesn't always give us compasses either.

[@J0rdan912]

@@michaelandreipalon359Let's disable HUD, pause button, saves, aim assist, healing and regeneration in games. Without option to enable/disable it, of course, because "life doesn't always give us compasses either". Every time I read something like this, I'm losing a part of my faith in humanity, some people actually lack of understanding the concept of options or other people preferences.

[@bramv7174]

Kyle Katarn is just the chuck norris of star wars

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Or in some manner by way of Force Speed come the sequel games, Homura Akemi.

[@chrisw4051]

1:58 you discovered the secret the stormtroopers didn’t want you to know about

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Of course, the game's sequels adding a scope changes things.

[@JakeTheHuman1]

Now I just need Shadows of the Empire Remastered.

[@InhumanFan98]

I love how theirs so many ways the deathstar plans were got that the canon explaination is that the plans were so big that they had to be seperated into many many different smaller files. And each time the plans are got they are only a part of it, the one from rogue one was the plans for where the exaust port is and stuff.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

...You do realize Rogue One is set on a separate continuity away from Legends and its famed Operation Skyhook?

[@InhumanFan98]

@@michaelandreipalon359 that ot that plan was for the actually exhaust port and it just has to be combined with the rest. and operation skyhook is canon, its what the death star battle in episode 4 is known as in universe.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@InhumanFan98 I don't think there were separate DS-1 theft operations happening simultaneously in the Alt-universe. And even then, that operation is only a Legends exclusive. Even the grossly overstating Wookieepedia agrees.

[@InhumanFan98]

@@michaelandreipalon359 i looked up operation skyhook and its legit just the death star battle from episode 4 says that on wookipedia "Operation Skyhook would become one of the most devastating series of battles of the war. The entire population of the Alliance-allied planet alderaan would be wiped out by the superlaser of the Death Star. During the battle of yavin, the Death Star was destroyed by a "lucky shot" by the Rebel pilot luke skywalker wiping out hundreds of thousands of Imperial personnel, including grand moff tarkin" -straight from wookiepedia

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@InhumanFan98 There's only the Legends tab, and even then, are you intentionally not reading the rest of the article out of spite?

[@XJ0461C]

Kyle Katarn walked so that Cassian Andor could run. Honestly I think it was a mistake making him a Jedi when he's already cooler than Han Solo as just a smuggler.

[@philippeamon7271]

Yeah. But the retcon is how 1) the first mission to steal the Death Star plans is basically impossible, the timeframe is wrong, the base has no need for the plans, and only 35 armed guards? and 2) 5 years later, Kyle joins the Rebel Alliance for mission 2, the story of the game. and 3) His condition for joining is to have Jan Ors as commander... a Jynn Erso memorial? It's all very propagandistic, like the game is a VR training simulator, aimed at heroifying Kyle Katarn, to galvanize new recruits against the Empire (by having Katarn killed?).

[@XJ0461C]

@@philippeamon7271 Interesting take.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Ehh, no regrets on becoming a Force user if it means doing a Homura Akemi via fully upgraded Force Speed.

[@XJ0461C]

@@michaelandreipalon359 Cool powers and a lightsaber at the expense of being able to just deck people straight across the ground, no Force needed.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@XJ0461C It can get tiresome, staying as a Muggle commando type. So many FPS games are already like that.

[@Ash-Winchester]

Now we just have to wait for the brutal forces mod.

[@neocaron87]

Awesome video! I hope you'll cover the Tomb Raider Trilogy Remaster

[@Blake_Stone]

Nightdive is committed to faithful updates to older games, it was definitely a deliberate choice to leave all the old clunky levels (like the sewer... *shudder*) intact - they made it so you could flip back and forth between the original and new assets so that essentially locked them in to exact level accuracy. I loved this game when it first came out but I think we can all admit it had some shortcomings and several things haven't aged gracefully, it was only a slight step up from a DOOM conversion mod after all. The sequels Jedi Knight and Outcast were dramatic improvements in every respect, leaving this one a bit antiquated by comparison. But important for historical reasons.

[@penttikoivuniemi2146]

3:27 I was hoping you were going to say "Unfortunately for Kyle, he also lives in a sewer like a typical Florida-man."

[@brennanmarsh1572]

WAIT WHAT... YOU COULD LOOK UP AND DOWN?! I played it a few months ago and I had no idea, granted it took me a while to realize that you had an inventory and could sprint so I don't know everything!

[@SockyNoob]

I love all the jokes you keep throwing in lol. Virtual Boy planet lmfao. The enemies just sitting there at 6:44 is great.

[@MSnell]

I want to play this but not until there's a sale or price drop. $30 seems steep for what we're getting here. I think last year's Boltgun was a great example of how to make a modernized version of a game like this, so it would have been nice to see this get some more changes and QoL improvements.

[@vokkera6995]

I tried to play this game last year, having nostalgia for playing this on my grandpa’s computer back in like… maybe 2000? But man, that game is SO DARK that it’s very tedious to navigate lol

[@RickBusterGonzalez]

Do you think we will get a shadows of the empire remaster?

[@Contmotore]

1:10 It wasn't built on the original Doom, it was its own game engine called Jedi and had more in common with Duke3D's Build engine

[@AidanDownes_KH]

I still play the original on steam but I wanna wait for this fun remaster to go on sale as it’s almost the same price as the battlefront collection.

[@linkieloos]

Grew up playing the ps1 port, so hearing the MIDI pc music really throws me off. Such a classic SW game regardless. Definitely adding this to my wishlist.

[@OnDavidsBrain]

3:30 Sewer Count 1

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Haha, good old Civvie 11!

[@NcWcN1]

2:28 later determined to be only a set of them... 😅

[@notthegreatestdetective]

i never played this game either or the sequel to dark forces 2, but i did play dark forces 2, jedi knight and jedi academy, would love if they made more games for this series

[@Randomninja47]

Hope Dark Forces II gets the same treatment though for $30 I feel like this should have been a double pack with II already in there.

[@ryanhamilton579]

I'd love to see a review of Turok 1 and 2 as well. Same company that did this remaster (Night Dive Studios) also remastered those

[@michaelandreipalon359]

There's also Turok 3, but even with it recently remastered, I still think it's a lackluster game.

[@heavyq]

Just realized that Dark Forces has a mission on Fest and OG Rogue Squadron on the N64/PC had a mission on Fest as well. Wonder if Factor 5 knew that or if it's just a random coincidence...

[@cyanokhaar]

This is such a good remaster. You can tell it’s a labour of love.

[@woldemunster9244]

Pathetic port, they just upped the resolution and framerate cap. Made in a mont.

[@cyanokhaar]

@@woldemunster9244They re-drew everything by hand dude.

[@woldemunster9244]

@@cyanokhaar Then applied period-accurate texture filter over everything. Original was pixel art imho. GG2

[@quoniam426]

If the dianogas were already bad, the Mk1Dark Trooper beeping at you is one of the scariest things ever, on par with a Reaper Leviathan in Subnautica. I largely kept my thermal detonators for those ugly bastards...

[@lucashoffmannn]

Great video as always! Tomb Raider trilogy got a remastered version, will you be checking that out too?

[@TheFoxEssence]

It fully holds up! I’ve played through it 5x now!

[@arhickernell]

Dark Forces 2 and Jedi outkast next 🤞

[@whammy761]

Dark forces and heretic are the two games that got me into pc gaming when i was young.

[@johnkapwn]

Fun fact: the reason why the Stormtroopers blaster is so inaccurate is grounded in lore as they used cheap mass-produced crystals that resulted in poor accuracy of the blasters.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

And the lack of a scope. The E-11 rifles get really effective in the Jedi Knight follow-ups because of it.

[@jacobneumann5021]

Wait for a sale on MAY 4TH

[@patrickmccarty6953]

Well, I enjoyed Dark Forces growing up. It was entirely a shooter, and you did have to figure out a few puzzles. This was fibe by me. When Rouge one came out, I wondered how close the movie might be simular to the game. Well... the world didn't get anything similar. At least dark troopers showed up later in live action film.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Pity said Dark Troopers got badly nerfed, as are a lot of things in the Disney Alt-universe (looking at you, noticeably slower, no-ion cannons TIE Defender).

[@stephanieking8299]

I played this game when I was very young and I couldn't even beat the first level 😂 this might have been my first PC game.

[@zagariasbooysen7401]

Just installed this on the ps4. Never played this ever before. Love that this feels like Doom! But set in Star Wars!

[@Waggehful]

Sounds like one to watch for a sale

[@BathBombTheRussians]

This game makes me realize how little I pay attention to maps in games and just follow waypoints. I get way more turned around as an adult as I did playing this game as a kid. 😂

[@goranisacson2502]

I played the demo of this game, but never got the full game. Dark Forces II was the one I played in full, because light sabers, but hopefully this game can be a stepping stone towards that game!

[@IheardPancakes]

I'm loving this game. The original didn't support the dualshock thumbsticks on PS1 and the basic pc controls also aren't great. I love how they included the prototype tutorial and have options for the og style and remastered. I think the price might be overboard though as it's not that long, probably should've been 15 or 20.

[@SirTyJensen]

I had Dark Forces but I was stuck on Level 6.

[@juriaanoussoren]

The game is bearifulk but my God, that path finding

[@battalkenshi]

I didn't play remastered, but I played the original like a year ago. It was nice, only the sewer level was too bad, was too dark. And at the blue planet 6:11 I was little lost. But it gave me more than what I expected. But while I was playing it, I didn't realize there were 2 weapon mod, I always used secondary fire, I realised at the last stage while fighting boss. Well expecting too much from remastered not right I think, if looking like remake version there should be JKII or JA mods to play. But that remaster is not right either. That graphic improvement and mouse controls were moddeble when I played. Looks like they didn't add a new thing. I suggest to play with auto aim if you have bad at aiming like me. Also, I think it is more playable. I played both dark forces and dark forces II with auto aim. And it was nice. I am sad about this why they abandoned this system. We can still look use mouse to look environment with auto aim. Also, I think many multiplayer games will be more enjoyable. Because everyone would have same chance to shoot. I can not play fps multiplayer games because of that when one maniac guy plays like aim hack it ruins it.

[@Jackbat69]

Is there a physical release of this on the switch?

[@JangoSkett]

I wanted this game until I saw it was $30. No way I’m paying that for a game that came out nearly 30 years ago even if it is “rEmAsTeReD”

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Wait for a sale.

[@JangoSkett]

@@michaelandreipalon359 i am. Not spending over $15 on it tho and even that’s generous. Just my opinion of course

[@basdegroot3615]

This game needs an RTX option, like Doom1993 has through mods

[@Cyberbrickmaster1986]

Sounds to me like the remaster is the definitive way to play the game, and it seems like it works on Steam Deck, so I'll consider it if I can get a good price, since Australian prices for games usually suck. Would be nice if they added the CD soundtrack from the PS1 version as an option.

[@Dance_Yrself_Clean]

I really wanted to play it as I was also too young to experience any games in the series before Outcast but £25.99 is too high an asking price (especially with Battlefront collection around the corner)

[@tdoran616]

Just finished this game today, I played it on Easy mode. The game still holds up just like Doom or Duke Nukem 3D. The remaster of Dark forces is amazing, although I would say Mission 6 is the worst.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

That's a given.