Star Wars: Dark Forces - Steamboat Wendigo

[@Civvie11]

"Civvie have you tried DarkXL?" Yes. But it's an incomplete port and I'm not going to use that for a video.

[@MaxDuckwall]

I remember when the XL Engine was announced to support Blood... then Lucius poofed and we have GDX, NBlood, and Fresh Supply... Dark Forces needs that love again.

[@AlexeiVoronin]

It's a buggy and woefully inaccurate port. I watched a friend play the game with XL and it felt like torture.

[@AgentBurgers]

I was just gonna ask you that lmao

[@AlexeiVoronin]

Reminder: If you're going to use Rise of the Triad music, you should finally do a Pro ROTT video, Civvie! It's been how many years already?

[@Furygun81]

At least it's playable start to finish!

[@Crowley9]

I guess Kyle Katarn interprets "sneaking" as "if I kill everyone, no one will know I was here".

[@CyranofromBergerac]

Pro tip: fire your weapon at the enemy to conceal the sound of your footsteps. This will allow you to sneak up on them!

[@reesetorwad8346]

Legit.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

I mean, it'll let you get shit done in peace if you kill everyone who'll get in the way of doing what you need to.

[@hegyak]

"They can never report I was there, if they are ALL dead."

[@darkspawnsenior9488]

Ain' nobody gonna notice if nobody's left to notice.

[@ennui_u9352]

I absolutely love how Kyle's so badass, even Vader goes "Yeah dude you're gonna have a hard time taking him down, ngl"

[@zigfaust]

Empire Soldier 1: "Sir the rebels got away!" Vader: *force chokes them to death* Empire Soldier 2: "Sir, Kyle Katarn got away!" Vader: "Understandable, have a nice day."

[@andrewgentry2411]

Nobody messes with Katarn.

[@Banana_Slamma]

Did we ever get starkiller vs Kyle katarn?

[@wowliker642]

@@Banana_Slamma No, unfortunately. Even then that fight wouldn''t even last long.

[@MasterMewtwo239]

Two words: FUCKING... DISNEY... Technically, Kyle exists in the extended universe pre-Abrams, so Disney would have to spend some money to re-license and retcon Kyle, especially since the story of Rey now overshadows everything.

[@deadbeef576]

Dark Forces encapsulates the old saying of "Does a falling tree make a sound, when no one is around?" and modifies it into first person shooter format of "Does the Empire know Kyle Katarn is there, when no storm troopers are left alive?"

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

"Nobody will notice if there is nobody left to notice"

[@AngelOfDC]

"There can't be witnesses if everyone's dead,right?"

[@andrewgentry2411]

"Witnesses? What witnesses?"

[@CustodianVirgil]

Does anyone else find Civvie's videos infinitely rewatchable?

[@CleverCover05]

I watch his Kreed and Half Life videos at least once a week. This is my third time on this video. His videos are just so good.

[@waterguyroks]

CleverCover What Half Life videos?

[@LordofSadFac]

@@CleverCover05 i do the same with Tekwar, the way the Matrix broke him is amusing

[@CleverCover05]

@@LordofSadFac oh that's always a favorite. The matrix levels are just a beautiful hell

[@waaaaaaah5135]

Yup!

[@seb24789]

Disney had to write out Kyle so they could make 3 new movies. Kyle would've only needed a 20 minute short.

[@Gruntvc]

Star Wars Rogue One could've been good. If Disney didn't step in and change the whole tone/plot of the film. It was originally supposed to be an Apocalypse Now rendition of Star Wars.

[@Clay3613]

@@Gruntvc Rogue One suffered from too many characters and a boring plot.

[@michaelmartin9022]

"Planet size Death Star? Give me my knuckle duster and five minutes"

[@provalone]

Honestly, I half hope that the end of rise of the skywalker is Kyle punching his way into the Movie verse and bringing back the EU. Disney just saying, sorry we fucked up, here have it al back.

[@Clay3613]

@@provalone Get over it.

[@watermelonhelmet6854]

This game REALLY nailed the atmosphere. I remember being 13 years old, playing it at a friends house, saying "This is amazing." and my friend saying "Yeah, it really FEELS like Star Wars, doesn't it?" Yes. Yes it does.

[@Karifi]

Same. I have only the demo and played thousand of times.

[@Niskirin]

@Ahmed Malaki Lucasarts no longer exists and Disney will only allow worthless trash to be made. Star Wars is dead. Give up on all hope.

[@thatwolfensteinguy8954]

@@Niskirin their is always hope, Kotor remake, jedi fallen order, mandalorian, we have hope

[@mokinokaro]

I think the big thing that made most of the LucasArts SW games work was the sound design. They just always nailed that.

[@jackkingsby116]

@@thatwolfensteinguy8954 Obi Wan Kenobi was my only hope and his show sucked so fuck it I guess

[@wuzzlefuzzthewise5082]

"These dark troopers are kind of pushovers" *dark trooper proceeds to take 9 grenades to the forehead*

[@RealWonderSwan]

They're only push-overs, when compared to our lord and savior, Kyle Katarn.

[@emetanti]

By Kyle standards, yes, but ordinary Rebel Schmucks would be wiped out.

[@fovarberma752]

Grenades, or thermal detonator? Because there's an order of magnitude or two of difference. Also, what Caleborn said.

[@WereScrib]

@@fovarberma752 TBH the Mortar (the grenade launcher) in Dark Forces is even reviewed in the game's manual as 'a lot of fire and a lot of smoke, looks more impressive than it is.'

[@lolmcfall7234]

The best character from Star Wars is Dark Helmet, since he has the ability to break the 4th wall and watch the outcome of the film.

[@Jarumo76]

"Everybody got that ?!"

[@xmm-cf5eg]

"KEEP FIRING, ASSHOLES!"

[@farseerflore9512]

‘I said across the nose not up it!’

[@jakublulek3261]

At this point, Spaceballs are more canon sequel than the official ones.

[@darkmerc02]

“I see...so your Schwartz is as big as mine.”

[@aedwynn6474]

"I've seen every franchise I've ever loved get ruined." - Civvie 11 That... that one hit very close to home.

[@landonpeckham7752]

Except Doom

[@aedwynn6474]

Give it time...

[@DMTrojan]

Old Gods Part Two.....came close. It didn't ruin it, but it sure was tone deaf as fuck. That worries me. That worries me a lot.

[@jimbomclimbo7467]

@@DMTrojan at least they felt bad about it and promised to at least fix it. but yeah it's still concerning

[@agentjohnson3973]

@@landonpeckham7752 DOOM has already been ruined by DOOM ETERNAL

[@ThePageofRage]

So, you kill Boba Fett with mines behind a wall while he doesn't react to it? The sad part is, it's still only the 2nd most embarrassing way Fett goes out.

[@leebard9335]

Fett doesn't actually die in the Sarlacc pit. Look to the Bounty Hunters book of short stories.

[@ThePageofRage]

To be fair, I guess Fett didn't die in this game so he could get beaten by Solo later.

@@leebard9335 I don't believe those are canon, but, I will say every SW short story is leagues ahead of the writing done for episode 1-3, and 7,8 soon to be 9, and are more in tune with the original trilogy than anything ever officially entered into the timeline. In my mind they were legit.

[@passingrando6457]

Going by the old EU, it's even more of a family tradition. His granddaughter tries to take on one of Han and Leia's kids and gets bane'd with telekinesis.

@ pleb

[@badger6728]

“They only killed Jesus once, he could take it three times” best civvie quote of the year

[@pistool1]

Man, this game was hard and a bit scary, too, as a kid on PSX :D I never finished it without cheating :)

[@xmm-cf5eg]

You think Jesus hears the Halo respawn beeps every time he comes back? I think he does.

[@nolan412]

My side hurts.

[@kingalphawerewolf]

@@nolan412 Your side? Your *side?* I’m sorry to hear you lost the other in the war! ;P

[@ZuluRomeo]

The problem with Jesus is that it takes him 3 days to respawn.

[@papayer]

"Call it nostalgia, or call it enjoying things that are well made and make sense" words to live by.

[@sillylittleowlguy2392]

Cursed as fuck PFP

[@remyrichardson8614]

p f p s a u c e ?

[@valkarion9]

This game was THE shit back in the day, and that sewer level was the most sewer-y of them all.

[@vvcq]

I think as a kid I would've stopped playing right then and there if the sewer level wasn't right at the start. Forcing yourself through that horrifying dianoga-infested shithole so that you can see the rest of the game... I guess it builds character, or something.

[@valkarion9]

@ScopeDog Ross Scott did a really good Strife video for his game dungeon series, it's not exactly a Pro video, but good non the less.

[@saerain]

The dianogas gave me nightmares for the longest time.

[@vvcq]

@Stix N' Stones They don't modify your movement in dumb ways like those, but they're commonly cramped, dark, maze-like and boring, not to mention cliche as all hell. In this particular case, though, the biggest problem is that the dark maze is full of respawning nightmare tentacle monsters.

[@GepardenK]

Lucasarts LOVED that level for some reason. 'The Sawmill' level from Outlaws (their western shooter) is basically the exact same thing all over again. Maybe even more evil in fact. 'The Tian Shan River' from Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine also uses the same concept although they did simplify it there somewhat.

[@jonbourgoin182]

Plot twist: Civvie’s actual first name is Kyle

[@manscapedgrinch1427]

As a Kyle, I can attest to his inherent Kyle-ness

[@UltimateEnd0]

Kyle the pile

[@johnwhite9303]

no his name is civowitz civvington

[@ArcturusOTE]

All joking aside his real name apparently is listed on Postal 4 Alpha's credits

[@jonbourgoin182]

Yayo' Ariowibowo what is it then?

[@zenhaelcero8481]

"Kyle is a stupid name." Come on, Civvie, that's unfair. Without any Kyles in the world, who would destroy all our drywall for us?

[@xotl2780]

Ricky?

[@KageMinowara]

Jim Bob?

[@bucrthomas]

Chads. If not chads, brad will always turn up

[@kevinwillems8720]

Billy?

[@10GaugeManiac]

oh no Oh NO OH YEEAAAAAAAH

[@RpTheHotrod]

Just some trivia for you. The imperial officer at the end next to the shuttle was placed there not as a threat, but to instead help show off the scale of the shuttle - giving it a nearby size comparison (human). Also, if you aim straight up as far as you can and punch someone, you uppercut them into the air. Sometimes they fly up at least 20 meters. Its hilarious. I used to uppercut people off ledges into space on the nar shadda level. If you turn on god mode, you can also jump into space and will find all the bodies you punched off on an invisible floor that appears to be flying through space. It's pretty trippy.

[@Bluepaccao]

That's awesome

[@goopah]

Games need to still do shit like this!

[@contrabandresearch8409]

A Kyle Katarn movie would be John Wick in the Star Wars universe.

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

Might as well resurrect Mace Windu while we're at it and make it a buddy cop movie. No one's ever really gone.

[@DukeOnkled]

Don't cut yourself on that edge.

[@jobelthirty1294]

@1010010111001010 The space nazis arent the good guys bro.

[@magmos6346]

@@jobelthirty1294 (Whooosh)

[@brosephnoonan223]

@ Patently false.

[@1xoACEox1]

Even his pilot Jan Ors is a badass. Bitch just drops Kyle off in the Imperial city like "okay you kids have fun pick you up later kay"

[@elijahjarman2837]

I can imagine her packing him a bantha sandwich in a bag

[@SylkaChan]

@@elijahjarman2837 This game looks great, besides some of the rooms being too bland, especially the outdoor ones. But it has beautiful skyboxes also, as well as textures, and great pixel graphics.

[@BrotherPolemos]

"He is very resourceful" 13:00 Civvie, katie who ever did that bit, i salute you.

[@omwibya]

what's the song?

[@BrotherPolemos]

@@omwibya kick start my heart - motley crue

[@Bacxaber]

I don't think Katie's real.

[@sgt.thundercok4704]

@@Bacxaber She's real to Civvie.

[@v4rr0lot3k6]

"The Chuck Norris of the Star Wars universe" Ye, pretty much.

[@adam1984pl]

Chuck Norris is his own universe.

[@01100101011100100111]

I remember there were actual Chuck Norris jokes about Kyle. "Kyle Katarn doesn't have a chin. Underneath his beard is just another Bryar Pistol."

[@gripedreality3347]

@@01100101011100100111 "If you mute Dark Forces you can still hear the scream of Kyle's victims"

[@0kultist339]

I always wondered how the sewer count got so high.

[@Headbiter]

Badass protagonist with amazing head-to-shoulder-ratio, punches things to death, grows a beard later on... It's Space Kenshiro.

[@Zelousmarineinspace]

Headbiter HELL. YES. Ai Wo Torimodose!

[@durand4l]

YOU WA SHOCK!!!!!!

[@JunkCCCP]

Omae wa mo Disneyru NANI??!!

[@xmm-cf5eg]

I'm glad you didn't make a shitty jojoke, bless you.

[@Headbiter]

@@xmm-cf5eg The only Dio I care about sings Holy Diver, so no risk there.

[@Superumouyun]

"I've seen every franchise I've ever loved get ruined... except DOOM." Let's just say that the movies never happened.

[@steakwipe]

doom is so good that the movies failed to ruin it, despite their best efforts

[@blockboygames5956]

Movies? What Movies? :O

[@adam1984pl]

2004 film with The Rock

[@blockboygames5956]

@@adam1984pl Thanks Adam for the reply. :) I meant it sarcastically tho, as in "These movies don't exist to me."

[@leebard9335]

First movie was entertaining, if cheesy and barely Doom at all. Haven't seen the second one.

[@armchairmaster]

You know, Kyle's badassery ends up bleeding into Boba Fett's if you think about it. Think about it, how many enemies were able to take plasma cannons to the face, from Kyle "Morhefucking" Katarn, and LIVE?

[@sapphiredawn4321]

@Samar3n noice

[@JohnCena-ew1mf]

What was badass about Boba Fett? In the original movies he gets taken out by a blind dude. Fanon just made him out to be the Star Wars Punisher because he looked cool but that was it.

[@yocapo32]

@@JohnCena-ew1mf He got better in the Extended Universe, but his popularity _was_ entirely because he looked cool.

[@JohnCena-ew1mf]

@@yocapo32 Eh, the most interesting i've seen Boba Fett in EU is in the New Jedi Order book series where he becomes the new mandalore and fights alongside the Galactic Alliance against the Yuuzon Vhong. Outside of that he's basically just the Star Wars equivalent of Steven Seagal an untouchable killing machine that walks through his enemies while not having a distinguishable personality.

[@masterexploder9668]

Well, everybody has a bad day sometimes. In Boba's case he ended up fired right into mouth of Sarlacc, but he survived.

[@davidpaul6290]

“This is one of the worst sewer levels.” Someone hasn’t played Shadows of the empire.

[@DieHardjagged]

Haha holy shit that one was the WORST.

[@MisterButterfingers]

@@DieHardjagged The boss to that level has given me a lifetime of nightmares.

[@camendiv]

Also my first thought lol

[@snakethefox9586]

that level legitimately got me stuck on that game when I was 8 or 9. Never beat it. Fucking tentacle boss at the end always robbed me of experiencing that supposedly sweet space battle at the end of the game.

[@1ochotnik]

Nah, jetpacking in human and alien waste is a-ok :P

[@Jesse__H]

That is a very competent James Earl Jones' Vader impression! Color me impressed.

[@johnroscoe2406]

LucasArts used that guy for most of the Vader speech moments in 90s SW games; Rebel Assault 1 and 2, X-Wing series, TIE Fighter series, Dark Forces, etc.

[@Jesse__H]

@@johnroscoe2406 That's interesting!

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

And Joel McNeely does a great job imitating John Williams' musical style too.

[@oz_jones]

Had to check IMDB to see if it really wasn't Earl Jones.

[@EnclaveSOC-102]

RIP James Earl Jones

[@GmodPlusWoW]

Punching three kell dragons to death... That's some Teddy Roosevelt power levels right there. Also, I don't know about you guys, but Krix Madine sounds like a really fancy cheese toastie. Possibly involving blue cheese and Black Forest ham.

[@AFarmerCalledChicken]

Legend has it he's still around, waiting, hoping he can off more storm troopers.

[@AleK0451]

BLACK FOREST HAM

[@GmodPlusWoW]

@@AleK0451 It's the fanciest ham I could think of, TBH.

[@AleK0451]

@@GmodPlusWoW mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm BLACK FOREST HAM

[@Jrez]

Krix Madine is still a bit better than Plo Koon. Madine is only a letter off Nadine, and Krix is only a letter off Trix, which if you believe old gangster movies was a name at some point.

[@Lord_Deimos]

Sure, Kyle Katarn is such a silly name... _suddenly a wild Dash Rendar appears_

[@kabob0077]

OH NO!

[@DinsRune]

_Pro Shadows of the Empire when Civvie_

[@karry299]

Full Frontal ?

[@WanderingEndless]

@@karry299 Quattro Bajeena Shot Weapon

[@kingofthemoon3063]

Therm Scisssorpunch

[@Mattulaak]

Wow I was just shitposting when I said "Pro Dark Forces when Civvie" I didn't expect him to do it. The absolute Mad Lad

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

Same, actually.

[@ghfjfghjasdfasdf]

I saw that comment.... think I mentioned how I recently picked it up on Good Old Games.

[@toddnolastname4485]

Someone created a level for Dark Forces that had several rooms that existed in the same space. You'd go into a hall at the end of the room that was a turn around that would bring you back to what should have been the same room, but had more bad guys in it. Damn. That game came out 25 years ago. I feel old.

[@SimonBuchanNz]

One of the things I found messing with reading the Dark Forces data files is that pretty much all the official levels do this at least a little bit, but especially the end of the ice level is just a mess of overlapping tunnels and ice and that chemical area.

[@JohnnyBurnes]

Anikin should admire the amount of murder Kyle does. "Most impressive."

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

He's too perturbed by the sand-esqe color of Kyle's clothing to notice. Like red to a bull.

[@gabbyprincip1575]

Kyle doesn't kill any children so I don't think he would care

[@hannibalburgers477]

*Anakin

[@FuriousGorge]

*child mass murderer

[@leathery420]

Hey, hey now. Kyle and Anakin are only into justifiable homicide. Not murder. They never killed anyone who didn't have it coming.

[@_pascalwittwer]

Pro Jedi Knight: Dark Forces ll when, civvie?

[@shafterx8133]

Next video surely

[@arnox4554]

DARK FORCES II NAOW. By the way, it is sadly funny that although JK2/3 definitely has the best saber combat/force use, Dark Forces II definitely has the best guns. I don't know why they didn't just pseudo-port them over to JK2 instead of the lame versions of them we got instead. Also, I actually really liked the massive ass level design of DFII. It was late 90's graphics, sure, but damn, levels actually felt so damn big and felt immersive just because of that.

[@cjnf11]

And then Mysteries of the Sith. Heh.

[@oz_jones]

@@arnox4554 DF II has also Max, which makes it objectively the best game in Katarnverse.

[@catacombboy]

Discovering this channel and picking and choosing videos at semi-random has made this video especially cathartic for finally revealing where that huge leap in sewer level count came from

[@Quickdrawingartist]

Nice avatar, bet that's the face you made from Civvie's videos. Good shit, good shit I say.

[@lordfriedrick7911]

Jabba The Hutt: You're gonna die eaten by my 5 kell dragons Kyle Katarn: I was getting hungry...

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

mm roast kell dragon

[@WordsofHeresy]

I like that the sewer level requires you to hunt down an Italian stereotype

[@_ViceTroy_]

that demon mickey mouse is an actual representation of disney today “im gonna have to put you down”

[@lightskinnedlarry728]

*Disney since it's inception

[@randomtuber9622]

Ah shit here we go again

[@Bitterman5868]

@@lightskinnedlarry728 Nope, More like Disney AFTER the take over when the Walt's family was removed from the board.

[@kisham]

"Hoho"

[@victorherrera2418]

*lights TNT*

[@kingwaffleton1774]

Civvie added 94 sewer levels to the count, for those who want to know.

[@YizzTheEunuch]

Thank you, my youtube autism is appreciative

[@DarkOmegaMK2]

THE SEWER COUNT IS RUINED!!!

[@kphizzle9569]

As a Kyle.. Thank you for your kind words. Doc says one day I may even learn to love

[@croppedrocket3383]

Star wars character: There's a group of storm troopers. We gotta get outta here. Kyle: There's a group of storm troopers. Oh boy here I go killing again

[@handsomebrick]

@ScopeDog All expanded universe stories are more over-the-top than the actual movies, so I'll bet if you just dig up all the EU stories of Han set in times before, after, and between the movies, he'll be even more badass than Kyle.

[@NhBleker]

Kyle: "Who's the man in half?! I'm a man in half!! Storm trooper killing man in half!!"

[@zigfaust]

@@handsomebrick Nah. You can literally just compare their feats on WhoWouldWin. Kyle is a fucking monster, def in the top 5 strongest chars in SW Expanded lore. Han would actually be under Lando and even R2 from comparing feats.

[@kabob0077]

@@zigfaust R2 is a fucking BOSS, don't forget all the shit he has done both in Old Canon and Disney Canon. He probably would get along better with HK-47 than 3PO.

[@nicolasachille4371]

@@handsomebrick speaking of you heard the story how he survived a sith zombie virus and that was the boarding he had when he lost jabba's shipment? I am speaking of han.

[@guzman8573]

Winston Wolff actually directly inspired his movie counterpart character. At a social event Tarantino met Winston who had been introduced to him as the guy who solved problems in the making of Dark Forces.

[@Mario_bland]

For all weirdos who keep looking back to this one, he added 93 sewer levels I think.

[@TooMuchSascha]

It doesn't matter anymore. None of it matters

[@justamule707]

@@TooMuchSascha why

[@TooMuchSascha]

@@justamule707 the sewer count is dead

[@R41N80WSCR4TCH]

@@TooMuchSascha I was wondering why they weren't showing the count anymore. Did they explain why?

[@LordofSadFac]

@@TooMuchSascha ITS BACK!!!

[@troyadams2457]

I can't look at the grenade launcher looking thing without thinking of the version from Russian Overkill.

[@ajragle]

The mines are also used in DooM mods.

[@soundtea4939]

@@ajragle That sound they make is also used in quite a few mods for Doom. I know I've heard it used as a lockon sound at times.

[@papayer]

I kept expecting him to shoot gigantic shells that bounced around

[@Kaiju_Inc]

Lol was thinking the same thing.

[@BPKPhoenix]

Playing that ridiculously overhyped yet very much appreciated song they use in fireworks while murdering everything in its path until the song ends.

[@zendell37]

I wonder if Jonathan Frakes is mad he didn't get cast as Kyle Katarn.

[@iona2225]

zendell37 *TAKES OFF SUNGLASSES*... my god.

[@Eyetrauma]

*swings leg over a chair* tell me about the dark trooper, mothma

[@KyosukeShigeru]

Could've been too busy being a badass elsewhere, Gargoyles comes to mind.

[@shippo72]

@@KyosukeShigeru He absolutely slayed in Gargoyles, but at the time this game came out, he was also doing a few episodes of Voyager and one of Deep space 9, a few episodes of some forgotten sitcoms, and he even did a full movie called "Time Travel Through the Bible". Not to mention that he was still filming the last season of Next Generation and a documentary about the end of Star Trek Next generation while the game was in pre-production, so not a lot of time to do voice acting.

[@mihaidinul]

They couldn’t afford him then He couldn’t afford to not do it now

[@ryujijitei]

"Look at the size of this gun, good lord!" Not even half the size of Kyle's package.

[@Fneeps_TF2_Experience]

Love to see a measuring contest with kyle and boba fett

[@miguelpadeiro762]

​@@Fneeps_TF2_ExperienceBoba's package would shrink out of sheer respect of Katarn's presence

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Heh, I still remember that Topps(?) playing card somewhere that shows the guy actually carrying some of his arsenal via belts and all.

[@UponDemise666]

The graphics have really aged quite well! Like Doom & the mighty Build engine Triumvirate (Blood, Shadow Warrior & DN3D) it's a classic that just kicks ass! The gameplay, atmosphere, score & sound effects are equally effective & consistent. Another classic & a treasured gem of my childhood. As per usual, a solid video Civvie 11, for real, great job!!!!

[@slifer1178]

I literally just booted up dark forces last night.

[@eiszapfenderwutendenwinde3233]

Good choice 👍

[@spencechan]

"Now he works at Blizzard... I'm not sure if that's more or less evil than Disney" We now know that it is more evil

[@Archon3960]

Debatable, but it _is_ comparable. ;/

[@garuelx8627]

I mean, they both shill to a certain evil empire so they're both pretty bad...

[@christiand1337]

Blizzard sexually harasses its female staff. Disney straight up hires pedos. Disney edges Blizzard out just by a child’s underdeveloped shorthairs.

[@ilocosmetro]

It was canon that Kyle Katarn was smashing Jan's cheeks, right?

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

This is Star Wars in 2019 - everything is canon because nothing matters.

[@KayX291]

@@fuzzydunlop7928 Wrong. Anything that happened before Disney acquired Star Wars is non-cannon and this killed Kyle Katarn.

[@EMDakka]

only after jedi outcast.

[@Alexander.I]

@@KayX291 ehh,anything that happened after disney acquired star wars is non-cannon to me

[@patrickbateman312]

Yeah that's big facts. Kyle busted all up in that

[@RUFU58]

That sewer count ticking up and Hector Salamanca ringing his bell caught me completely off guard. Seriously genius shiz there 😆

[@eugenebridgesii7582]

Moff Gideon!!!!!

[@kyon813]

HAUG--!

[@en4135]

Imagine giving a soldier a mission objective that's "infiltrate a base and steal something" and then 20 minutes later there's a news story about that entire base being massacred.

[@tanekheath5323]

Finally, but you know we all want pro daikatana

[@lordhood117]

NinjaTanek That’d probably be at 250k

[@KurtHectic]

200k subs = Daikatana

[@TerrorLTZ]

he had to do it full vanilla no mods... for that sweet sweet pain

[@sarcastic_slob]

Dear satans, please make it happend

[@Zeithri]

No! Pro Heretic!

[@thegreatpiratemorgan]

The “Kick Start My Heart” is one of the funniest bits I’ve seen in a long time and the whole thing was like 5 seconds. I will always think this is hilarious.

[@thehoodedteddy1335]

“Resourceful”

[@wowliker642]

"And they couldn't have made a movie about Kyle Katarn stealing the death star plans cause it would be over in fifteen minutes" Eh, more like five, give or take.

[@kabob0077]

You see the first ten minutes would be introducing Kyle and going over the mission to get the plans.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Either way, Rogue One is still a great film, even if Legends' Operation Skyhook has the far more interesting premise.

[@wowliker642]

@@michaelandreipalon359Apparently in legends the plans were fragmented as there is plenty of games were you have to get the plans like in this game, classic battlefront 2 and I think also X-wing.

[@Dark.Shingo]

Co-designer Justin Chin looks like discount John Romero.

[@Metty_]

I remember having this on a demo disk with a full copy of Full Throttle back in the day. That and DF2 were my jam growing up.

[@KingLich451]

wow, full throttle rocks

[@HolyMarmot]

I had that exact same Disc. Amazing days for LucasArts. Full Throttle is the best.

[@vvcq]

I got the LucasArts Archives pack, with Dark Forces, Full Throttle, The Dig and the first two Monkey Island games on it. That was THE SHIT. Still have the discs.

[@gustavrider5561]

Oh demo discs were so great, I really loved Pc magazines from the day.

[@HC-qc5rp]

The dark troopers in The Mandalorian were badass, so it’s really cool to learn after checking Wookiepedia that this game is their first appearance ever. I thought they were made for the show.

[@NoobixCube]

Dave Filoni is on a one man mission to bring back all of the cool stuff from the expanded universe that Disney nuked.

[@Kek393]

@@NoobixCube Dave Filoni is on a one way mission to steal everything from the EU and make it worse by putting his OCs in it you mean.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Pity they're nerfed, just like the TIE Defenders in Rebels and Squadrons, especially when compared to the beasts that they are on the TIE Fighter video game.

[@Fredbob392]

As a long time Dark Forces fan, seeing Dark Troopers in live action made me so happy. Just wish more had been done with them, brought them back in season 3.

[@TheTimeHero]

"I don't think that they do time travel in star wars, at least not yet" oh you sweet summer child.

[@jinkisaragi874]

Wait did they do it?

[@jurassicclassic6543]

@@jinkisaragi874 yeah at the end of rebels

[@magmos6346]

@@jurassicclassic6543 All because Filoni couldn't let Ahsoka go.

[@lordawesomemasterofunivers5611]

The bigger joke is they might do it call larger scale to fix the sequel trilogy. [ Insert mad laughter here].

[@ArcturusOTE]

@@magmos6346 That or he never planned to kill off Ahsoka

[@rcblazer]

The way Disney is represented by the Dead Lights from It is the perfect analogy to the way I have viewed that all consuming corporation since I was a child. Also, Rogue One should have been about Kyle Katarn going all John Rambo on the Empire; I would have actually gone to see that movie!

[@seb24789]

But then the movie would have been only like a 10 minute short.

[@handsomebrick]

@@seb24789 Just make it an almost exact copy of the plot of First Blood Part II, except it's Star Wars. Problem solved.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

I don't know, Rogue One is still great even to a Legends fanboy like me. Also, am more of a First Blood person. The sequels to it should be apocrypha and are better off parodied in the form of Hot Shots! Part Deux and Duke Nukem 3D.

[@alexb9969]

Disney: Ok so we'll need to assemble a strike team and gather all of the Rebel fleet Katarn: Hold my BlasTech Bryar 1,350 pistol

[@TheOneShotWunda]

13:39 Crix Madine is the dude from RotJ! He’s the dude that looks like he took an iron to the side of his head!

[@Adam-oh3vu]

That name sounds like a very fancy sandwich.

[@blackout295]

You mentioned Sam and Max and zoomed in on Max, you're now obligated to review Sam and Max

[@commando7238]

Pro Sam and Max when civvie

[@RexcorJ]

Pro Hit the Road Pro Save the World Pro Beyond Time and Space Pro Devil's Playhouse Pls Civvie

[@blackout295]

Sam and Max discord where you at

[@frogonlilypad]

@@RexcorJ season 1 is called Save the World. or just season 1

[@grumpyoldwizard]

The story of this game trilogy is the one they should have used for the/a movie. I played these games decades ago and still remember them lovingly. They even treat all the characters with respect. I hope someday they do a remaster.

[@zigfaust]

Me and all my buddies thought when they announced a new trilogy they were gonna try a gritty Dark-Knight type series with Kyle as the main char. We live in a whacked out timeline.

[@Virgil-Arcanum]

@@zigfaust The only thing that could top a trilogy like that is a trilogy for the first Jedi.

[@arandompasserby7940]

@@zigfaust You and your buddies really thought DISNEY were going to do anything interesting with an IP they bought????

[@zigfaust]

@@arandompasserby7940 So you just are gonna ignore Avengers Endgame or the first two modern Muppet movies? Sit down kid, you look like a clown.

[@arandompasserby7940]

@@zigfaust I personally don't care for pretty much anything Marvel or DC (It's probably a decent movie, but I tried watching Avengers with my ex gf on two separate occasions. Both times the movie could not keep my attention past 40 minutes in, and she and I eventually made our way to the bedroom... At least it wasn't Iron Man 1 lmfao) and -W-wait, people who are legal drinking age actually care about muppets? 😉 Jokes aside: What can I say, different people have different tastes. (I'll also see your Avengers and raise with Disney's nightmare-land of live-action remakes ... AND Marvel Phase 4! lol) However, on that note, I'm sure the biggest "fools" and "clowns" here and the ones who thought Disney, of all horrible modern age companies on a path to monopolize entertainment, would make a DARK STAR WARS MOVIE and not just regurgitate the same crap that makes all the grown-ass Star Wars neckbeards cry at movie trailers. (TBH I miss the days when being a SW neckbeard was kind of fun and there were all kinds of unique games ... beforr the dark times ... Before the Disney Empire!)

[@sernoddicusthegallant6986]

"This is one of the worst sewer levels in the history of sewer levels" *Laughs in Vampire the masquerade bloodlines*

[@dickmarrinator9057]

>not just using the unofficial patch and skipping that monstrosity

[@luisguzman3657]

Ahhhh no not that “feature”!

[@GeneralTantzu]

@@dickmarrinator9057 Sounds like casual talk to me!

[@112523]

@@GeneralTantzu being smart and skipping a bad part of a game is casual talk?

[@Full_Throttle_Axolotl]

@@112523 Yes

[@tbone9474]

Omg this brings back memories. As far as I'm concerned Kyle is still here and canon, disney trilogy doesn't exist

[@kabob0077]

@Crashie-J Wait, we can buy Kyle Katarn's wine?

[@asterixobelix20]

Shush, don't aggravate our Disney overlords, or they'll come for you and you'll be doomed! DOOMED I TELL YA!

[@kabob0077]

@Crashie-J I am tempted to now...

[@ajragle]

Ayy, a Swat Kats fan.

[@GeneralTantzu]

The only good Star Wars stuff Disney has made so far is Mandalorian...

[@IMN602]

I always loved dark forces. No lightsaber, no force powers, just you and weapons used by the everyman. I was always interested in what combat was like outside the jedi stuff. I use to wake up everyday and play this on my ps1 was one of the best times of my life :)

[@dasantihero2827]

If it's one thing I can appreciate about the channel, it's definitely Civvie's sense of humor. Unlike say Gman, his humor is universal and even if you don't get the jokes, you can laugh at them. Hell, I'd say his channel is underrated, and I hope one of these days, the channel passes up others. As for the video, it's humorous as always, and it's awesome to see him cover Dark Forces in its' OG state. I just wish we got DarkXL to be complete to see him cover that.

[@Buraz93]

I love Gman, but not so long ago he started to drop in some "memes" in his videos, and it feels like a boomer trying to be funny to the kids, but is not because his memes are normie at best.

[@noop9k]

@@Buraz93 Gman is ok if you are ok with him being a sellout when making reviews of more modern games.

[@Buraz93]

@@noop9k How the fuck is he a sellout? Lmao

[@noop9k]

@@Buraz93 His reviews of those games sound like ads

[@ultgamercw6759]

@@noop9k Tell that to his anthem, cyberpunk, brake point and a bunch of other modern games he ripped to shreds.

[@supersonicxz1]

They actually did time travel in Star Wars Rebels.

[@Gruntvc]

And they use the force for pretty much bullet time/stopping time in Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order. The force is broken OP.

[@Enclavefakesoldier]

Thankfully it has so many rules and specifics that it can't be used constantly and thank god for that. as much I would fangasm seeing Palpatine leading the most powerful Sith Lords in Legends and the two trilogies, the new SW owners would abuse it to fucking death.

[@AllardRT]

@@Gruntvc Eh, Jedi Outcast / Academy did the same thing.

[@Ammoniumbicarbonat]

Genome Soldat I mean, in Force Unleashed they literally use the force to pull a Star Destroyer out of the sky

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

@@Ammoniumbicarbonat At least there was slight president in that with Yoda dragging Luke's ship out of the muck in the OG trilogy. That's not to excuse the time travel and battlefield manipulation Palpatine apparently dabbled in, because at the end of the day the Force honestly is the worst mcguffin superpower ever due to just how OP a writer can make it and just explain it away with vague jedi proverb.

[@WarbossFraka]

Old star wars, brings a tear to my eye. Literally, I loved star wars.

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

"The extended universe sucked, nothing good was in it." Kyle Katarn: "I have the high ground!'

[@lpj2216]

may i remind you of the Yoozhan Vong?

[@AllardRT]

@@lpj2216 Please don't. Feel free to remind me of Revan though.

[@lipzxnfvcx]

@@AllardRT nah how about the 9 million Palpatine clones and Luuke

[@AllardRT]

@@lipzxnfvcx Hey, I liked the Thrawn trilogy. Dark Empire though...

[@FortressLordJP193]

Almost everything in the extended lore is better than almost everything in Disney canon. So I tend to just cherry pick what's decent.

[@michaelmaage]

Jábbaneo Del Huto is my favorite Star Wars villain. It was about time that they introduced some diversity into this franchise. Some might say it's pandering but with the depth , character arc and mustache, Jábbaneo brings something fresh to this franchise I didn't even knew I wanted

[@SuperfieldCrUn]

I started up this game for the first time just a few weeks ago, and within seconds, I immediately pegged it as the most Star Warsy-feeling Star Wars game I'd ever played. It nails it better than far more modern Star Wars games. Some kinda LucasArts magic that other companies, even great ones like Pandemic Studios (RIP), can't quite capture, I guess.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Hmm, what about Totally Games and their X-Wing series of games, particularly TIE Fighter and X-Wing Alliance installments?

[@ZuluRomeo]

For me, the MIDI rendition of the main theme in the opening cinematic was the best rendition of it without using music files from the original film soundtrack. It was the music my Sound Blaster AWE32 was made for.

[@leftyfourguns]

Well LucasArts was owned by George Lucas, so they had access to all of the movie materials and even the same technology, like motion capture equipment, which wasn't common in the 90s especially for a video game studio

[@escalatingbarbarism5096]

What kind of sick pervert knows the names of Grans and Trandoshans but not the Gammorean guards?

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

Someone who grew up in the LucasArts video game golden age and not the Lucasfilm golden age which preceded it.

[@jamstonjulian6947]

I love Star Wars but I don't know half the lore, I just enjoy the movies, don't pay much attention to funny names

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Admittedly, though I know their names, I strangely feel better naming them derisively.

[@albertdeluxe8966]

8:45 Civvie. This is without a doubt the funniest goddamn thing you've ever done. Nearly killed me here.

[@exidy-yt]

Pig aliens = Gammorian Guards. I can't fuckin BELIEVE I remember that. I was such an OG trilogy nerd as a little kid. Then it was ruined for my own kids' generation. Dark Forces was SUCH a great Doom clone, I was almost as blown away by it as I was the original Doom a year earlier. Excellent look back and playthrough. I wish this gem would get the ol' HD remaster.

[@sgtboom7]

Nightdive got ya covered: kzbin.info/www/bejne/apOchYerp9B7asU

[@starpaladin2287]

Demon Mickey Mouse is the single scariest thing to ever come out of this channel

[@CaileanDarkwater]

If you can find it, find a picture of Uncle Mickey from HoL, Human Occupied Landfill by Dirt Merchant Games. It's much worse.

[@welcometowallys8158]

Nice pfp

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Either way, am still bummed that poor Mickey is an overblown scapegoat nowadays.

[@thechurchofdiscountdan7436]

I never knew a lot of the sound effects were reused in Shadows of the Empire

[@Mecheye]

Yeah the reuse of assets is uncanny, though I think they came out at about the same time innit? This was in February 28, 1995, and Shadows of the Empire was on the N64 on December 3, 1996. A bit under two years apart. Though Wiki states that they had two completely different project leads in every department I'd imagine many of the programmers swung right into SotE right after this one was released. Reusing those assets probably saved a lot of time EDIT: "LucasArts used the level editor of the Jedi engine, previously used on its games Star Wars: Dark Forces and Outlaws, to create the game's 3D environments." This may explain it

[@helloSanders]

fond memories of getting this on sale at a babbages and playing 28k dial up multiplayer with a friend across town. it played well. blew me away at the time.

[@seanspear6224]

That ending made me giddy when I first heard it years ago knowbing Kyle becomes a badass Jedi

[@Nomadsword]

Oh, Bobba, "Does literally nothing then gets thrown in a hole" Fett

[@gonintendo1]

Welp nowadays he’s a bit cooler

[@Lunarice98]

I liked him cause he has a jet pack and jet packs are cool. And nobody else had one. I was like 5 and it's just stuck to me.

[@blackthorn5709]

I always really liked the fact that this game was completely devoid of Jedi, force and lightsaber antics. Something about exploring the Star Wars universe as a regular mercenary with blasters and the like just made it feel more fun and immersive.

[@Valoe7]

"They haven't done time travel yet in starwars" Oh boy, they tried it in the fucking Rebels cartoon.

[@dvader518]

They did in Legends with a Mace Windu comic.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

And then there's kriffing Multiverse Theory, as implied in the Devilworlds comics, the Infinities comics, the Tales comics, and then the Cult and Supernatural Encounters novellas. As a Legends fan, believe me, Star Wars has always been this unnaturally wild even during its infancy.

[@WTFisTingispingis]

They did, then they went out of their way to make sure it could never be done again.

[@sauronmauron6965]

Wrath: *exists* Civvie: that's cool,but i'm gonna pretend i didn't see that

[@Overlord81]

Is it good?

[@PODDEAD]

@@Overlord81 Its only 2/5th done right now but I like what Ive seen so far, level design is probably the best out of all the recent boomer shooters, enemy ai and weapon balance probably needs some work tho

[@Overlord81]

@@PODDEAD Ok thanks...let's wait for Civvie11 now

[@DaglessMc]

@@PODDEAD the second level is so hard to fight in, i think dusk is still superior so far

[@PODDEAD]

@@DaglessMc defintly, dusk will probably remain the gold standart even once this game is finished but I really love level design on these types of games and wrath is just a few tweaks away from being a metroidvania, the overworld alone feels so cool to explore

[@Gardelain]

With how the Mandalorian handles some of the extended universe stuff, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see Kyle Katarn to show up for another go at Boba Fett before pairing up as some sort of buddy cop situation to kick some ass together.

[@johnk.7523]

Cannot lie, that actually sounds dope.

[@lionocyborg6030]

Boba: “I’m getting too old for this shit.”

[@JosephAlanMeador]

Aw, Dark Forces. Pure 90's Star Wars perfection. Civvie is 100% correct, at the time you couldn't beat it!

[@Batchall_Accepted]

Literally. It was fucking HARD lmao

[@BrentStarling]

Woah! That huge Dark Trooper gun must’ve been the inspiration for Halo’s Fuel Rod Cannon. That’s awesome

[@treefingers6572]

Imagining Civvie with Hector Salamanca's twisted, stroked-out smile spamming the sewer bell made my day.

[@JarJarBinks4ever]

The Dark Forces series might be the best Star Wars there is in Star Wars, along with the Zahn novels and comics, and Kotor

[@reesetorwad8346]

Mostly agree, but the Xwing games were awsome, especially Xwing Alliance. I played that with a Logitech gamepad connected to my Pentium II, and STILL had to use nearly the whole keyboard as well. Search those on KZbin.

[@WereScrib]

@@reesetorwad8346 I honestly thing TIE Fighter is probably the top game over all. It's technically amazing (dynamic music and full voice acting in frickin 92, a branching storyline, and some of the best in space flight sims) and just incredibly good. It's even still a fun space flight sim. Dark Forces is right there though.

[@unclestone8406]

One thing I remember about that Stouker Concussion Rifle, it was an awesome mine disposal weapon. After I had more than a few deaths to lots of the mines Civvie noted, I just kept that Concussion Rifle ready and blasted away at any suspiciously dark corners. Star Wars fireworks is good culture ^_^

[@brandonobaza8610]

25:16 Wouldn't be _Star Wars_ without a space ship capsizing...you know, _in space._

[@DrBreezeAir]

Civvie has the perfect taste in FPS games AND Star Wars.

[@demi-fiendoftime3825]

Kyle Katarn once went to the Planet of Virgin Ionika now its just Ionika. Kyle Katarn considered Skydiveing once but he decided aganist it after seeing what the Death Star did to Onderon Every night darth vader checks under his bed for Kyle Katarn

[@demi-fiendoftime3825]

Wam-mnebu Abeloth may want to be everyone's mommy but Kyle Katarn is her daddy

[@Darca1n]

You'd think people would know not to mess with Kyle when, not even an hour after he's tossed into a pit with multiple Kell dragons, he's killed them, everyone on the ship and then escaped.

[@stevebat2072]

Boy I can't wait to see Civvie attempt Mysteries of the Sith. That game had some labyrinths that would make Hexen jealous.

[@Zhanrock]

15:22 Gammoreans -- basically orks in space. Jabba used them in the palace and luke actually force chokes one in return of the jedi-- But they're also in KotoR. but gad DAMN I love me some dark forces.

[@tHeWasTeDYouTh]

"it wasn't Kyle Katarn who stole the death star plans but Jyn Erso" -Guy McAccent

[@Rschr101]

Did you hear Guy McAccent is getting his own show? Wonder if he'll run into Captain I'ma Bad Guy and Admiral Bone to Pick...

[@BPKPhoenix]

[Ben Kenobi] "That's no moon... that's a space station!" [Karl Katarn] "Nah, its free real estate just waiting to be ... _renovated_ shall we say."

[@CooledJets]

[Karl] Oof

[@soursugar4867]

@Samar3n [Kyle Marx]

[@NellWatson]

This video is a masterpiece, Civvie. I had a big grin the whole way though. Thank you, and congratulations.

[@JBshreds]

I’m amazed at how many star wars clips are in this video and somehow it’s still on KZbin

[@megahellreaper]

There's a reason Disney had to kill him off in their rip-off. He wouldn't let them get away with half of the stuff they're doing.

[@velvetsparrow]

What?

[@megahellreaper]

@@velvetsparrow Rogue One was made basically to replace the Dark Forces saga from the Disney Star Wars canon. In case you didn't know, in the old canon, Kyle Katarn is the one who steals the Empire's death star plans. While not too obvious in Kyle's case, he was essentially replaced by Cassian Andor. It becomes far more obvious when you look at the actual protagonist of the film, Jyn Erso, who replaces Kyle's Partner, Jan Ors, who is additionally the character placed in the protagonist role, essentially exchanging which of the 2 is the protagonist and who is the companion. Hope that clarifies.

[@velvetsparrow]

@@megahellreaper Oh, guess we can’t have anything

[@velvetsparrow]

@@megahellreaper If it means anything, I’m writing a fan fic that adds Kyle and several other aspects of the EU into the new canon. Kyle could be considered a member of Rouge One, as one of his goals in the fic is to save them, only to find them dead

[@Elyseon]

@@velvetsparrow And then he finishes the mission on his own because fuck Disney.