Does Disney have creative control of Doctor Who?

Some reporting now suggests Disney's distribution rights for Doctor Who may also include some creative input. Let's pull this apart and see if there's anything actually to it.
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[@v.sandrone4268]

Trivia: Australia's ABC was a huge source for lost early episodes that the BBC destroyed.

[@AnonUnlimited]

A little fact check: Disney+ does have shows that they don't own. They have BTS PTD concert, In The Soop friendcation, and at least one k drama. All of these were made by companies in Korea (not Disney) and are available on other platforms. Disney doesn't own them but they have also recently been added on the streaming service.

[@jamesoneill8920]

They also have Bleach: Thousand-Year Blood War, which they’re simulcasting with Japan. Granted it’s on Hulu in the US instead but everywhere else except Japan they carry it.

[@dommartin3746]

It also, in the UK at least, (and I think this is possibly kind of significant for why the Doctor Who deal has happened) has It's A Sin on Star on Disney+ which is a Channel 4 property that was distributed as an HBO Max original in the USA. Kind of weird seeing as it's also on Channel 4's streaming service but they've got some sort of distribution deal. So it's not new for them to host things they don't own, and it's also not new for them to host RTD produced content they don't own lol

[@TheDarkVampire666]

And they are going to start airing WWE in some countries the WWE Network will be put onto Disney+

[@JustChrisWillDoTa]

@@dommartin3746 It's a Sin on Disney +? When did that happen? Just cos a few weeks back I watched it here in the UK on netflix. Haven't noticed it appear on Disney in time since then.

[@gateauxq4604]

Disney also HAD the worldwide rights to distribute Studio Ghibli films which they screwed up for the better part of a decade. That is ALSO now on HBO Max but for how long is anyone‘s guess. The streaming service meltdowns and acquisitions is getting stupid and confusing. It should all be whacked with some anti-trust laws but we apparently don’t have those anymore.

[@hilariousbenjamin5614]

I'm Italian and DW here has always been on public national tv, it's how I discovered it in the first place. They've been doing reruns of the entire New Who basically every 6 months since I was a kid. They even managed to invite Moffat and Jamie Mathieson to talk at the biggest comic con in Europe, which is here in Italy, for series 9. So even tho I've personally switched from dub to original English a long time ago (and so don't watch it on tv anymore), DW being distributed *exclusively* by Disney outside the UK very much doesn't sit well with me at all, if that's indeed the case.

[@redeem147]

When Doctor Who came back in 2005,the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation was a co-producer. As far as I know, this had nothing to do with creative control.

[@puckrobin1]

They did try to have a certain amount - one idiot apparently suggested dubbing over Eccleston with a North American voice actor. But this was shot done, and I think the only content the CBC got were some video intros by Eccleston for the first series and by Billie Piper for The Christmas Invasion. But RTD just took the CBC’s money and laughed at them. Which i hope he’ll do with Disney. (Oh, and I don’t know which CBC exec seriously did suggest dubbing Eccleston, given that one of the CBC’s top shows is ITV’s Coronation Street filled to the brim with Mancunian / Salford accents.)

[@scott_an]

Doubtful - there’s little to no way that; A. They wouldn’t clash with RTD and B. That he’d ever give into their demands 😂

[@tokublwhovian]

I hope RTD stands his ground, but with Disney money…

[@jakeoliver9167]

@@tokublwhovian if there's anyone that would never give in to any amount of money on matters of wokeness and representation... it's Russel

[@sklarini]

I'd like to see you all stand firm in the face of what I'm betting is hundreds of millions of dollars.

[@tokublwhovian]

@@sklarini The fanbase is very vocal 😂 any attempts at americanising will backfire and not in a good way.

[@ooooneeee]

​@@jakeoliver9167 how is he any less "woke" (progressive) than other Who showrunners?

[@KayleighBourquin]

In Australia it was run on our mostly beloved ABC since its inception back in the 60s, in fact the ABC helped fund it for a few years at one point, so for it to come off of the ABC and go to an American streaming service (that is available in Aus) is a sad day indeed. Going from free to paid. EDIT: Oh you talk about that heh

[@Alien_Goblin]

Marvel has frequently interviewed Doctor Who people on their KZbin channel, even when they didn’t have any distribution rights, which does suggest fans near the top (or that they’ve had their eyes on a distribution deal for quite some time), so yeah, even if Disney’s power goes beyond what the Telegraph says, they’ll treat it like they treat Marvel, Pixar et all

[@livebreathemedia887]

With the possibility of the show finally having a decent budget after 60 years, and RTD’s comments on his vision for the show, this really could not only allow for much more expansive episodes and locations, but it could really take us back to the high points in pop culture from the 2006-2011 era of the show, and then elevate it even further, and I am so hyped again for this show for the first time in almost a decade

[@CouncilofGeeks]

CLARIFICATION: I state in the video that Disney doesn't license stuff they don't own for Disney+, which isn't true. What I was trying to convey is that they don't license at this scale for distribution worldwide, but they have been licensing some properties for specific territories. I just flatly said it wrong. My video on the issue of the BBC's support of Transphobia: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3-XppZmfb-ljac My video on the BBC's response to complaints of its reporting: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZzLaWSEatGWj7s My short on why I'll continue to put up the note at the front of these: kzbin.infoHpwwzjzFXiE Shaun's 1st video, which includes some additional confirmed information: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGXFpn2Dgs6qmck Shaun’s 2nd video, which follows how the BBC is trying to dodge accountability for all of this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5fNhXpsiLudo7M Shaun’s 3rd video, following him escalating his complaints: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIPRYoiQacubmqc Shaun's 4th video, covering the BBC's response: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXeaeIpth9RnhbM Laura Kate Dale's protest speech outside the BBC offices: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnPNeKGNoNx0oKs

[@Zelnyair]

Shaun did a 4th video, also: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXeaeIpth9RnhbM

[@TkOHarley14]

Thank you for keeping up the awareness.

[@rabbitfishtv]

If Disney put up Capaldi’s last season, wouldn’t Bill be the only out lesbian important recurring character on Disney+?

[@TheYoungDoctor]

Marvel's Runaways has Karolina and Nico.

[@writerpatrick]

If you're dealing with spin-offs, there could be an animated Doctor Who series, possibly one that takes place during his time at school on Gallifrey. He could then have Romana and The Master as classmates since he does seem to have a history with them. They could make it an educational history show.

[@josgibbons6777]

Since Torchwood didn't start until after RTD1 S2, my guess is spin-offs will wait until at least 2025.

[@bowtiesrcoolmonksrnot3272]

Vera: *mentions the problems that someone pointed out Australian whovians are having with the change to streaming only* Me: *squeals in fan girl because I’m one of the people who pointed this out!*

[@jakeoliver9167]

I think it's far fetched to believe disney have any say production wise outside suggestions. Its all bbc and badwolf. I'm watching this as I type so if you mention the telegraph article fair enough, but that telegraph article saying they'll have creative control seems like one big fat assumption based on nothing. Edit: oop you did. And yeah glad you agree. The quotes they mention don't even support what they say. At most they might get spinoffs

[@SciFiBrony]

With the show now having a partnership with Disney+ and no longer with BBC America, I'm curious if we'll get missing episodes animations back, since the reason they stopped doing them in the first place was that BBC America was no longer funding them. But with Disney, they are no stranger to funding animation and would give them even more exclusive content for their streaming platform.

[@balogkrisztian8440]

BBC America just stopped founding them recently and the Disney deal must have take a long time to make. In my opinion BBC America stopped founding the recreation of Classic Who episodes because they have already been told that the show will be taken away from them. The animated recreations were a popular and profitable business for them, I doubt they stopped by their own decision. Of course I could be wrong, but I think this option is much more like. And Disney showed no interest in Classic Who so far, it's very likely that they will only have New Who.

[@RileyWritey]

Maybe the animation won't be so shit this time.

[@the5thdoctor]

The budget thing i always find silly that fans worry about it. The budget is secondary the writing and acting is most important. Look at classic who they didn't have the budget and the technology. So they had to think outside of the box. Disney giving them bigger a budget I don't care.

[@tokublwhovian]

THIS! as long as the storytelling is good and the characters are enjoyable/relatable, effects don’t matter.

[@clomiancalcifer]

Actually Classic Who still airs on some overair channels in the US via PBS, but increasingly via Pluto's over the air digital networks. I remember our PBS channel actually getting New Era Doctor Who (primarily I want to say Eccleston and the first series or two of Tennant's run) within a year of their broadcast on SyFy (might have been in that brief period where BBC had no real distribution for the show when things fell through with SyFy and BBCAmerica was not yet...fully signed on). Of course this changed when BBCA took over the distribution in the US....

[@alfredMV]

Disney+ does have a show from BBC already. Bluey. And they censor and even ban certain episodes from that. That's very concerning by itself.

[@jameswait5340]

Australian fan here, yup this deal absolutely sucks for us. Doctor Who has always been a show we could watch free and with no ads :( Likely a big part of why I fell in love with it to begin with

[@Stephen-Fox]

Given that prior to being announced (and possibly being approached) as showrunner RTD was talking about how it's a shame Doctor Who doesn't have as many spinoffs as it did when he was showrunning it (Joking about a Nyssa spinoff in the process), I'm not sure we'd be able to tell if spinoffs are due to Disney/Sony exerting creative influence or RTD being RTD. There _might_ be more US set stories as a result of this, since sometimes production funding gets fueled by 'do something that helps us market this to our audience by doing a story set where we are.' but aside from that? I can't see it. As for the outrage merchants claiming anything 'woke' is due to Disney... ...RTD of his own accord included a trans character and a pansexual character in the show in 2005. There was enough inclusion back then that Homophobes were constantly moaning about his 'gay agenda'. If Liz Sladen hadn't sadly have passed away when she did by the end of that season of SJA Luke would have been bringing his boyfriend back home from uni with him on CBBC. With Disney's track record? If there's any creative control on that front, they might tone it down. But with RTD's track record, I suspect he'd quit before he let them and I can't imagine us not knowing why, again, given his track record.

[@marocat4749]

Honestly us stories couldbe great, and if he is informed of real terrifying szories and experiences and can make ut fit dr who. With the humor. It could be a good thing, if he dives in us cultural weirdness rather than trying to be clean. Like it could be good commentary?!

[@AhsimNreiziev]

I forget..... Who was the trans character in RTD's _Who_ again? The pansexual character is obviously the legendary and ever-beloved Capt. Jack Harkness, but I can't for the life of me remember who the trans character was.

[@Stephen-Fox]

@@AhsimNreiziev Cassandra - "When I was a little boy"

[@andrewbowman4611]

When the distribution deal was announced, I was reminded of the similarities of the Starz co-production of Torchwood: Miracle Day. In fact, the statements from RTD etc. regarding Disney+ echo the statements of 2011, so I suspect the arrangement is something similar to that. I'll also say that it's highly unlikely that any attempt by Disney to throw their weight around will be tolerated. I imagine the contract is extremely watertight, in order to avoid any attempts to interfere in the production, especially considering Sony's silent partnership. It wouldn't surprise me that Bad Wolf have chosen Disney+ because there are plans afoot for a number of spinoffs. While these would also be BBC licensed, the financing could come - in part - from Disney. One thing I don't think will happen is the animation of the missing episodes. Disney will only have the rights to the upcoming specials and further series. In fact, I'm not all that sure if the specials are part of the deal: given that Ncuti Gatwa is the one promoting the show on their behalf, it may be the case that his Doctor is the one whom Disney are connected to. I certainly don't think there's a great deal to worry about; I'm pretty sure RTD isn't one to be pushed around. Sadly, some countries may not accept the full versions of the episodes, especially anything mentioning LGBTQ+ topics. That's the only sticking point I can see, but I suspect all that will be roundly ignored anyway.

[@VikingSchism]

Disney+ in the UK already carries Merlin, which was a BBC production - they don't own Merlin but they still stream it

[@plkrtn]

It was a BBC commission but it was a Shine TV production, so it's probably purchased from Banijay who own Shine.

[@gamer40000]

My concern with Disney is more how cause they keep such a tight control on their public image, they may have problems when Doctor Who tackles more controversial topics, so they would rather Doctor Who not touch them

[@sig4311]

In France, Public National TV channel France 4 risks losing broadcasting rights as well in the near future. So we might end up suffering the same fate as Australians on this one.

[@kevinpeterson6468]

I like to believe that restrictions allow filmmakers to get more creative

[@clariztbelflores6377]

I live in Panama. When HBO Max announced they had Doctor Who, I was elated thinking I would be able to watch. That was not the case. In Latin America, Doctor Who was carried by a streaming service called Europa +. which, I had no intention of getting. If this Disney distribution deal is really global, I'll finally have access to it.

[@jimmythegod3]

I know that doctor who is not coming to Disney plus in the uk but there’s quite a lot of licensed content on Disney plus in the uk and around the world from the bbc and other studios and also I don’t think the bbc is handling the budget for doctor who anymore I think the budgets being handled by bad wolf so the money probably wont go to doctor who, I might be wrong but I think that’s how it works

[@wreckitremy]

This whole conversation reminds me of watching one episode specifically the Turn Left episode. I'm assuming this was bbc America, but I cannot confirm, but I know it was that episode. They specifically cut the scenes with Wilf and the poc getting sent to camps. I fear Disney will do this or worse since clearly it was allowed before

[@jakeoliver9167]

Did they really do that!? Disney wouldn't dare. Russel, in today's age, wouldn't let them do that

[@CouncilofGeeks]

Since Disney doesn't have to cut for commercial space I don't think there's any reason they would. (Not to say for certain there weren't some other reasons to cut that scene in specific, but the general trimming was excused under that need).

[@wreckitremy]

@@jakeoliver9167 yeah. I remember it clearly bc I was living with my grandmother at the time (who voted for the orange) and I managed to get her interested in doctor who, and I wanted her to see that episode for the fascism commentary

[@wreckitremy]

@@CouncilofGeeks yeah, there is that, but they've made changes to their stuff like Lilo and stitch for flimsy reasons so I think they could come up with a reason

[@CouncilofGeeks]

@@wreckitremy yeah but that’s their own property they have full control over. I’m not saying it’s impossible. I just don’t see it.

[@DigiRangerScott]

The Disney XD run was reruns of Tenth Doctor episodes in 2015, for the record.

[@gamer3ed484]

I really hope this deal includes Classic Who as well. It wouldn’t do anything but benefit Disney to have the entire show in one place. I know that the big selling point of Disney+ is that everything Pixar or Disney or Star Wars has ever produced is under one umbrella. Even Marvel is starting to get that way, as they recently added Spectacular Spider-Man and Spider-Man The New Animated Series, which were 100% Sony produced. It’d be yet another notch in the belt if Disney could claim to host the entirety of Doctor Who in one place.

[@c17sam90]

I think classic who is owned by brit box

[@gamer3ed484]

@@c17sam90 I could be wrong, but isn’t BritBox owned (at least in part) by the BBC?

[@c17sam90]

@@gamer3ed484 yeah it’s the only place in the UK to watch a bunch of archived bbc and other British shows. Non of classic who is on iPlayer

[@cw5522]

The think with Australia, yes it was on ABC (Australian Broadcasting Network) and Stan, which I now assume both of those will be losing rights.

[@carschmn]

I just want them to hurry up and get the latest season on Disney plus so I can watch it without having to give a pound of flesh to hbo or Amazon

[@ConnorLonergan]

have you heard of Pirating? or buying the digital DVDs?

[@katiemartin6991]

It's much better to give your pound of flesh to HBO over Disney tbh. HBO is just trash to their employees; Disney is trash to employees while funneling money into anti-civil rights campaigns in the US, monopolizing American entertainment (while tailoring everything to CCP censors), and literally tried to copyright Norse mythology (all of it) after the Thor movies came out.

[@carschmn]

@@katiemartin6991 I’m not a fan of the rampant sex and violence in HBO’s productions.

[@katiemartin6991]

@@carschmn I'm not a fan of Disney helping to overturn Roe v. Wade. I don't like their trauma porn original content either, but I'll take fictional sex and gore over supporting real-life genocide against Muslims.

[@carschmn]

@@katiemartin6991 I’ve accepted that every corporation will give money to republicans as a part of fulfilling their duty to maximize value to shareholders (republicans= lower taxes). With that out of the way, I just pick the corporation that annoys me least.

[@luciferkotsutempchannel]

“I don’t expect them to carry classic episodes” THAT inclusion alone would make a Disney+ subscription well worth its price.

[@Concreteowl]

One thing we might get is the companions of the TVM back in the show as Fox still had residual claim over those characters and events. That's why Grace and Chang Lee can't appear in Big Finish. I couldn't help but notice a few TVM references in The Power of the Doctor. For example the Master in both is trying to steal the Doctor's body and says something along the lines of wanting to dress for the occasion. This just before the Disney announcement. Fox is owned by Disney now so that might be a nod.

[@calamariboss8532]

The Power of the Doctor was written before the Disney deal happened. Any similarities shared between the story of that special and the story of the TV Movie are just similarities, not hints at what business deals have taken place

[@Concreteowl]

@@calamariboss8532 before it was announced. These things don't become poblic knowledge until the ink is very dry.

[@SadBnnuy]

Sadly when they say it is fine in UK and Ireland, they mean Northern Ireland. Ireland doesn't have access to BBC iPlayer or Doctor Who on Disney+. So aside form watching it live, which is really hard. I guess I'm pirating it. Ireland always gets the short end of the straw, because we are lumped in with the UK even though we share next to no similarities with them.

[@JamesLawner]

Where did Doctor Who air in Ireland?

[@SadBnnuy]

@@JamesLawner On BBC 1 but if you miss it live then you have no chance of watching at all

[@tokublwhovian]

I’m not against spin offs because I love SJA and the third series of Torchwood (Children of Earth) also enjoyed Class when aired but I don’t want to see Doctor Who “MCUified”, watch this to understand that and doing them for the sake of it. As long as the storytelling is good, characters are relatable and the mouse doesn’t strip everything away that makes the show: I’m open for it but cautious.

[@slashandbones13]

I don't know if this is still true but PBS did show new era Doctor Who, it was just two seasons behind the current.

[@juliankaper6428]

I think there is one "kinda" example of what your talking about: Hamilton. Disney owns distribution wrights but had no money put in the production of the show. Yes, it was finished when Disney bought the rights but also, in the midst of putting it on D+ they censored some words for the younger audience.

[@c17sam90]

With Hamilton it was always going to get edited at least in America because it would have gotten an R rating and it would have meant less box office with its originally intended theatrical release.

[@JamesLawner]

Just an FYI, Disney+ have been doing distribution deals, there was the 2020 film adap of Black Beauty that they bought the rights to and released it on Disney+. House of the Dragon is available on Disney+ in India, but that might be due to pre-existing distribution deals between HBO & Hotstar in the region (Still, it’s funny to say that House of the Dragon is on Disney+). Also, The Walking Dead is available on Disney+ in some countries (whilst still being available on Netflix too).

[@jsm5557]

Dr. Who rights are broken up over various categories: e.g. 1) Classic Who, 2) New Who back catalog, 3) Streaming Rights for new shows. There may be others categories. Anyway, prior to the Disney Deal, the current rights owners for each in the US were 1) Britbox, 2) HBO Max, 3) BBC America. BBC ultimately owns the rights, but they sell them off for a period of time, and at the end of each period, they put them up for the highest bidder; e.g. prior to HBO Max, Amazon Prime had the New Who back catalog, and even earlier Amazon had the classic back catalog also. Anyway, Disney+ got the rights to #3 above, worldwide except for Britain and Ireland. BBC can't just yank the back catalog rights away from HBO Max. But they will expire at some time in the future. For Disney to get them, they would have to make an offer to HBO Max to get them prior to the expiration of those rights. So, perhaps part of the deal is guaranteeing the back catalog will go to Disney when HBO Max's rights expires, but unless Disney bought those rights from HBO Max, they won't have the back catalog for a while. I seem to remember HBO's deal was through 2024 or 2025, but that is a very vague recollection, so that date could easily be wrong. It will be interesting to see how this plays out over time.

[@connor_who]

It seems closer to how Disney+ is hosting the latest season of the Bleach anime than them necessarily having creative control.

[@AlmightyCRJ]

I'm more hoping Disney's assistance is in a more practical sense - like location permits, contacts, wardrobe borrowing. There's a lot both Sony & Disney could contribute without really influencing script.

[@HeidiSholl]

As long as Disney doesn't get the theme park rights! If Doctor Who ever gets a theme park, I would be highly pissed if it's some piddly little area in Florida, and not somewhere in the UK, preferably outside Cardiff. Even if it's just an extension of Alton Towers or Thorpe Park, I would far rather that than a very very British show, that's been around since 1963, get it's first theme park debut in the US.

[@SneakiWasTaken]

reading this title gave me a traumatic flashback to the Doctor Who Movie.........😭😭😭😭😭

[@maurinet2291]

I wonder if they're going to get *all* the back catalog, including Classic Who from Britbox. That would be be great, and make a ton of sense given the older, family content they already have on there. Probably need to see how it goes first though.

[@stevendunkley8284]

My issue with the BBC isn't its 'transphobia' (please enlighten me on this - I genuinely don't know about it) but rather the way they covered up for Jimmy Savile and frustrated the efforts of the law to bring him to justice. That is why I don't pay my licence fee and avoid their content. They could bring back Tom Baker from the golden era of Dr Who and I still wouldn't watch it on principle.

[@tokublwhovian]

My video on the issue of the BBC's support of Transphobia: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3-XppZmfb-ljac My video on the BBC's response to complaints of its reporting: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZzLaWSEatGWj7s My short on why I'll continue to put up the note at the front of these: kzbin.infoHpwwzjzFXiE Shaun's 1st video, which includes some additional confirmed information: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGXFpn2Dgs6qmck Shaun’s 2nd video, which follows how the BBC is trying to dodge accountability for all of this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5fNhXpsiLudo7M Shaun’s 3rd video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIPRYoiQacubmqc Laura Kate Dale's protest speech outside the BBC offices: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnPNeKGNoNx0oKs

[@marocat4749]

The thing is the british media landscape is very terfridden. And BBC, is part of that. And there is the thing where , council has good videos there. Including the refusing a meaningful apology, or change.

[@AhsimNreiziev]

From my (admittedly firmly cisgender) perspective, it is hard to determine if the BBC's issue with transphobia is due to transphobia in the ranks of the BBC itself, or due to an extreme case of what is known as Neutrality Bias. If I remember correctly, they have this policy that any "controversial" issue needs to have "both sides" shown of it in "equal measure" by them. Of course, the Human Rights of anywhere from 0.1 - 2% of the population -- that is between 8 and 160 million people worldwide -- is hardly a controversial issue; and really doesn't have "2 opposing sides" -- there are people with empathy who respect others' humanity, and then there are bigots, who are objectively wrong. But there is this old and hard-to-shake notion among especially old news outlets that they have to be neutral, of confusing objectivity with neutrality, and of giving credence to stances that shouldn't be given any credence whatsoever under any circumstances. For example, until 4-6 years ago, many Mainstream American News Media outlets (especially CNN, (MS)NBC and The New York Times, with the NYT still having this issue to this day) had the....... unfortunate...... habit of giving almost equal time to Climate Deniers as they did to Climate Activists. But of course, when literally all scientists who study the Climate are Climate Activists, these aren't really equal sides of a "debate". There is no debate. Same thing with transgender rights. But because old Media wants to be neutral, because they think that neutrality is the same thing as objectivity, they give air-time and credence to these horrible and completely insane stances. CNN and MSNBC have since bettered their ways, to a large extent anyways. The New York Times and the BBC aren't there yet. Or maybe there is just a lot of rampant transphobia in the BBC. That is also possible. Honestly, I can't really tell which of these options reflects the truth.

[@Fitzroyfallz]

I can’t imagine Disney letting them make an episode like Oxygen. Even if they don’t have any creative decisions they can still decide wether or not to show it. I’m cautious about the idea of a ‘doctor who cinematic universe’, however I don’t mind one or two, like how we has the Sarah Jane Adventures and Torchwood in the 2000s. I must say an 8th doctor spin off does sound appealing. But the BBC have shown they are able to make spin offs without the help of other companies, so I still stand by my view that this Disney plan is a bad idea.

[@goku48071]

The anime bleach that is currently airing on hulu, but outside of the United States is airing Disney plus and/or stars, is the 1st license in India that Disney has done that I am aware of

[@kevin10001]

I’m not happy Disney has the show mainly for fans who can’t afford the extra expense of Disney+ and it could mean the international market could loose the physical copies of the show cause Disney+ doesn’t do physical copies and everything of the revival minus power of the doctor is still on max including the Sarah Jane adventures and torchwood and none of it is slated to be leaving anytime soon but who knows when the 60th anniversary lead in specials happen next year what will happen to the doctor on what max turns into

[@marocat4749]

So we live in a golden age of piracy?!

[@christinewahl3470]

As a Canadian, I do love the fact that I won't have to deal with commercials and the butchering of the episodes and most likely missing some content, I do worry about the cost. I have Disney plus for free until April2023, through my service provider. I am a senior now on a fixed income. I also have expenses related to my disability. I also subscribe to Amazon because this is how I can get my British Mystery Shows. I guess I will have to come to a decision come April. I love the Doctor .Jodie grew on me, and I shall miss her. She is an excellent actress, but the writing did her a great disservice. Thank you. I always enjoy your take on the topics you bring to my attention. Take Care.

[@kittyprydekissme]

Wasn't the first season of modern Doctor Who coproduced by the CBC? Modern Doctor Who has also been shown free on PBS. The PBS channels in Oklahoma broadcast the show starting around 2006 or 2007. They never showed the current season, but they would have whatever earlier seasons had been done up to that point. I haven't had a TV in about a decade (I watch everything on the internet), so I don't know how long they ran it. But I know they got at least as far as the first Matt Smith season.

[@lukesavage3067]

No, the first season of modern was produced by BBC studios, that's been the case untill bad wolf took over

[@Venemofthe888]

I think you should know by now that all the news comes out when you say your taking a break out loud lol its like they all hear you

[@geeksontapshow]

I was trying to debunk the Telegraph article on Facebook. Thank you for making this video.

[@melanierhianna]

There are currently seven shows on Disney Plus UK which are BBC properties from different production houses. However they are all on Hulu in the US. So your idea about merging Hulu with DP is a sensible one.

[@jewishautisticnerd3874]

CBC and BBC America, which is really AMC,were coproducers of Dr. Who as part of their distribution deal I would imagine Disney wouldn’t settle for less than they got.

[@PhilipChung76]

Outside of USA, Disney+ has a sub-channel called Star where a bulk of the Hulu and Fox shows sit. Doctor Who could sit there unfettered like the other shows. An advantage of going to Disney Plus is the boost in picture quality. None of the broadcasters in Australia are great on HD. Their streaming catch up services are 720p at best. ABC even premiered The Power of the Doctor on a non-HD channel.

[@darkholder]

I think the move to bring DW onto D+ is really a test for eventually consolidating Hulu into D+. Doctor Who is a very long-running show that will likely continue for an extended period - it has visibiity and fits a fan set that Star Wars and Marvel likely already aligns with and with a psuedo-relaunch with the 60th I think the timing was just right.

[@redeem147]

In Canada, we get Hulu shows mostly on D+

[@kevin10001]

I don’t know how long Disney+ will have the show especially if it doesn’t bring in the ratings bbc are expecting cause if the movie from 96 is any indication that ratings matters cause the ratings in America would have told bbc to allow a go ahead on the American season thst was supposed to come from but the ratings on fox didn’t meet the bbc’s expectations so they decided not to go ahead with that season and the movie is all we got

[@OzzieBo]

Disney: Time to make the Doctor wear Mickey Mouse ears! Haha!

[@robertdora7026]

Thanks for the video!! Yes, Doctor Who is sadly going to lose hundreds of thousands of viewers in Australia for new seasons due to the public broadcaster here (the ABC) no longer having the rights to Doctor Who (from 2023 onwards). This is not only because not everyone of any age group has Disney+, but also because a large portion of middle aged and elderly Australians are the vast majority viewers of ABC, and Doctor Who has always been one of the highest rated programs on ABC (and frequently in terms of general ratings that include all the commercial networks). Here in Melbourne Australia we have one of the biggest Doctor Who fan conglomerates outside of the UK, with the BBC recognising that a decade ago by bringing to Melbourne the first Doctor Who convention & official concert performance to occur outside of the U.K. There are sadly going to be few Australians who are north of 50 years of age who will continue to watch new seasons of Doctor Who, include those of them plus plenty of younger Australians who got the Britbox streaming service in no small part thanks to Doctor Who (and out of the people I know who have Britbox ALL of them are massive Doctor Who Fans).

[@Antifag1977]

It's all good. Besides, too many old dinosaurs will see dark skin and scream it's too woke anyway. Good riddance lol.

[@robertdora7026]

@@Antifag1977 I get what you're saying about generational trends, but those middle aged & older viewers watching the ABC (particularly Doctor who viewers) are by far and away not anti-woke and aren't against (or sensitive to) diversity. On other Australian TV channels then the social trend would be social different, but not on the very progressive media networks of the ABC or SBS (both of which are also public broadcasters)

[@Antifag1977]

@@robertdora7026 at least you came up with a fair criticism on a financial basis - I can respect a critique like that. You made no mention of "bad writing and acting" not any of that " too woke" noise too many people of a certain demographics seem to spout. . So while I am still of the mind that this move is more pluses than minuses, I do acknowledge that less tech savvy boomers who may have been life long fans could be essentially pushed away. In short I'm saying to you..."fair point but I still believe it's more good than bad in the end"

[@robertdora7026]

@@Antifag1977 Ta, and yep totally fair enough too for thinking it's more positive than negative ☺️☺️ Cheers!

[@AysKuz]

In Germany we have the category Star on Disney+ and I think it is partly HBO or Hulu stuff? So not exactly stuff they produce themselves?

[@arealknowitall]

I love your channel! Would absolutely love to do something with you on the topic. Let’s talk! Great stuff!

[@ShiningWolf88]

They do in fact have stuff they don’t outright own. Hamilton is on Disney plus

[@bonzobonanza]

'Hamilton' wasn't licensed, though. Walt Disney Pictures produced it.

[@Denchar1138]

Disney+ has the rights to stream the film and television library of Sony Pictures until 2026 or 2027, so no, having Doctor Who is not the first time they've put something on the service they didn't directly own or create. As an Australian, thank you for the ABC mention. Now the only thing in doubt is whether the show, modern or classic, will remain on our version of Britbox or not.

[@ben-tendo]

The "classic" episodes will not be part of the deal, when BBC Worldwide are selling the Collection bluray sets. 2005 onwards however, another story.

[@widyasantoso4910]

The Bleach anime series, starting with the new Bleach The Thousand Year Blood War series, is not owned by Disney, and are running the full multi-hundred series.

[@MutethatBozo]

"...Introducing the 15th Doctor; Goofy!..."😆

[@SavageBroadcast]

I read the Telegraph article and honestly, I don't see it. The writing of it is pure semantics, and they have no real source to back it up. The quotes in it from the BBC and Disney don't indicate anything beyond the distribution deal - nothing about financing or co-producing.

[@kismete6921]

Thanks for all your work

[@TheFashionablyDepressedBard]

This would not be the first time that disneyplus has had stuff on their platform, that they do not own. I have found old childrens movies from the 80ties and stuff like that from my own country, and I am quite certain they did not bye the rights, because those same movies and series still exists free elsewhere. But it might be the first time they have something on their platform, that they don't own, that is in english, and not just a regional thing..?

[@seanfulldark]

I got a funny feeling we might be getting a lot crossovers like Doctor Who crossing over with Marvel cuz they've already done that maybe across over with Star Wars don't recall the doctor doing that though.

[@RightWingDad]

Honestly I don’t want Disney to own any part of doctor who. Although I think it would be smart for BBC to allow them merchandising rights. If Disney is good at one thing it’s pushing out toys, apparel, etc to gain interest.

[@cisalzlman]

15:03 and we have RTD actutally made multiple spin-offs when he was showrunner previously and went on record saying Doctor Who should be on par with the MCU. I would not be surprised if purposely pitched the badwolf and later sony and Disney+ deals to help the viability of spin-offs

[@JennaGetsCreative]

I'm Canadian. I haven't had cable since I moved away from home but we never had a big enough package to get a channel with Doctor Who, and since then it has never been on a streaming service that offered it in my region, so I've been enjoying the fandom via fan videos and clips on KZbin. I'm genuinely excited to have the opportunity to actually WATCH Doctor Who! And of course, for that reason, I do hope the back catalogue comes with. Disney+ is the streaming service we've been holding onto since its release because it just makes sense with a kid in the house, but for Canadians the Hulu catalogue is included so it's great for us adults as well. I love that they're branching out and licensing stuff now and I hope this is a sign of things to come. I'd love to see them acquire some stuff from Sony.

[@legzfalloffgirl5148]

I used to watch Dr. Who on Netflix Canada, but I haven't been able to watch it for years!!!

[@kevin10001]

Being an American fan I loved that hbo max got the show cause it was there when I wanted to see a certain revival doctor and I’m still at the tail end of the Matt smith era cause I’m at the Clara episodes of season 7 cause I have been doing a Matt smith rewatch

[@JennaGetsCreative]

@@legzfalloffgirl5148 When was it on Netflix?! I subscribed from 2015ish until Disney+ came out.

[@spluff5]

TVNZ currently carries DW in New Zealand but only Whittaker's era. There is not legit way to subscribe to a service that has older episodes.

[@TheKiwiDragon]

Even then TVNZ aren't amazing. OnDemand only have episodes up for a limited time and then drop them. With Sky's Prime having carried Series 1-10 there's little to no chance of seeing them on TVNZ OnDemand or having repeat broadcasts on free-to-air television. Amazon Prime in New Zealand has Series 5-10 available but strangely Series 1-4 are absent. Don't even get me started on Classic Who. Outside of DVDs, it is hard to rewatch those episodes. If Britbox was available here as it is in Australia that might solve some issues but with a price tag. Is it any wonder why people turn to torrenting episodes of both Classic and New Who?

[@qnebra]

I think it would be influencing by financial leverage. Because universal truth about movies production is simple, 'who had money had power'

[@rubeniscool]

It's the Telegraph. The fact that people are concerned is exactly why they wrote the article in the first place.

[@KikeNavarrete68]

I think the deal is like the BBC have for rupaul drag race: part of the money comes from de BBC the other part from World of Wonder, so the distribution of the show in the UK is by the BBC and the rest of the world in WOW presents

[@tdm281995]

There’s quite a lot of licence shows on Disney plus in the uk

[@travelmaltaculture]

I'm happy. Can we get Death's Head?

[@thebasementfilmgroup]

Don't think classic Who will be added because it is on the streaming service "BritBox" In terms of the Telegraph... as we say in the UK "Stick it on the nail" which means - use it as toilet paper :)

[@johnphamlore8073]

No indication the show isn't going to still put on the back of one person, the showrunner. Not even a rumor or speculation that someone like Kate Herron could be brought in. The show simply can't be made if the showrunner has problems -- look what happened when Moffat was trying to juggle Doctor Who and Sherlock.

[@timrob12]

Quick question: Since Disney owns FOX and FOX made the TV Movie back in the day, is it possible that the BBC could get the rights back to characters like Grace and Chang Lee?

[@nick5661]

There is another thing to consider the BBC and the funding is done by a tv license now this is a LEGAL requirement that if you watch live tv you have to pay. Now many people (myself including) have not only found the vale of the BBC shows lacking their biases in their news reports especially over the trans issue for myself have led a lot of people to call for the ending of this license if not getting a exemption certificate in which you have to agree that you will never watch live tv and in return you don’t have to pay the license bill and if you do they threaten you with fines and even criminal records. If the ending of the license people pay in the U.K. come to effect it would cost the BBC a lot and they would need to find fund elsewhere. So in short for now I wouldn’t worry but it’s definitely not out of the realms of possibility.

[@LydiaTarine12]

I was surprised they didn’t put it on Hulu. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@caro.k2958]

Back catalog in Australia is still going to be available on ABC Australia according to ABC just new seasons going to Disney If Dr Who artistic control went to Disney that would be the death of Dr Who.

[@divadnairbgilbert1087]

correction i know i watched at least till the first season with Amy & Rory on our local PBS station. So your assertion we always had to pay for New who in the US is wrong.

[@panduh_go_crazy-.-9957]

Would you watch a theatrical release of doctor who if it was made today?

[@WhitneyAllisonGG]

My feeling any shows that Disney is distributed is not own out right is dump of Hulu. in the case of Bleach it was placed on Hulu even though anime and it is completed work unless Kubo creates more which is possible. Pierrot studio created anime and own by Tite Kubo it was going on Crunchyroll. Disney had Bleach removed from Crunchyroll which at this is owned by Warner Bros.

[@humankinetic]

I think Orville might qualify as the first property they are streaming that they don't own (mind you, I don't know that for certain). But yes, it is a new concept for Disney plus

[@plkrtn]

They do own The Orville. It was a 20th Century Fox property so was purchased as part of that takeover.

[@SKSith]

Is this a first? I had heard they hosted The Walking Dead in the UK

[@tacobowler]

I’d accept a Jo Martin spin off though

[@htg12006]

Didn't Disney just do distribution (although DVDs) for the Studio Ghibli films?

[@platina1502]

Wait but disney+ already has had some media they didnt own for a while outside of america

[@crowcoregames1785]

i mean rtd said he has have full creative control and that they are only helping with the budget as far as I'm aware also as far as im aware d+ is only outside the uk and not in the uk that would make no sense if they had control over doctor who.

[@linus1703]

One entity owning the international distribution rights vs it being different for each country will definitley change the power dynamic. That being said I'm not sure if Disney wants to get involved and if anyone can fight it off it would be the BBC they have a strong history of not bowing down to political pressure I doubt Disney will completly change things. I'm also not enitrely sure what they would even want, one thing is making it more American which I think the BBC would resist.

[@richardwilliams5387]

No, that's ridiculous. The BBC and to a lesser extent Russell T and the Bad Wolf production company are absolutely in charge. Disney+ just gives them a one stop shop for international distribution. There was a previous deal with HBO Max but no one questioned if Warner or later Discovery Warner had creative control...this is no different.

[@bonzobonanza]

I find it funny that people are criticising this deal, saying that "Disney will ruin Doctor Who", even though HBO Max was already streaming seasons of 'new Doctor Who', and no one was against this.

[@m.stewart8094]

Doubt it. It's a distribution deal I think. Like when Disney distributed Studio Ghibli

[@c17sam90]

Yeah people are over reacting. I mean face it nothing on Dr Who tone wise or content wise are things that would never fit into Doctor Who or half the shows on Disney Plus

[@TheDarkVampire666]

There already is a crossover sort of look how many former Doctors have gone on to play Marvel Villains

[@Zelnyair]

If Disney are financially contributing, maybe it means more characters will wear Disney shirts or something like that? I'm not suggesting the show goes completely off the rails and we get an episode where it's actually set in an abandoned Disney World in the far future or something. Though it wouldn't surprise me if we saw more Disney shirts worn by characters, or Disney plushies on the shelf or something. It'll be soft propaganda for want of better words. That's about the extent of what I see.

[@marocat4749]

I hope if they do do it like with chuck, where they did that, but in a very tongue in cheek way. Because they seemed to save chuck?! At least thats what would be the best case. If that goes in.

[@dustinakadustin]

As an Australian fan of Doctor Who I couldn't be happier about it coming to Disney Plus. It was so difficult trying to catch up on the show cause no streaming service here gets the latest episodes, so it's just a pain in the butt. We have ABC iView but it's not exactly up to date with back catalogues and stuff. If Disney plus makes that easier I'm happy. Obviously it makes it difficult for some fans and that sucks, in my own case I already have Disney plus so this is good for me.

[@Egnazol]

Stan (another Australian platform) has a good back catalogue of modern who, though I guess not for much longer. Cool that you have Disney+ I guess though. Such an important thing to remember, that there are people among us who give Disney enough money to fuck everyone else over. Thanks!

[@dustinakadustin]

@@Egnazol you're welcome I guess. Stan doesn't get the new stuff till too late, I had to buy flux in KZbin cause no one had it🤣

[@Egnazol]

​@@dustinakadustin I just had a thought. What makes you think it'll be released more on time on Disney+? Disney Plus has region specific services, right? Places like Stan and iView don't release things late for shits and giggles, it's a purposeful delay on the part of the people producing the show. Don't ask me why everyone seems determined to release in Australia weeks to months later than the US or UK. But Disney+ will be reckoning with the same deals that iView or Stan once had. So there's no guarantee it'll be any better. I bet it'll be just as bad as it is now. So get used to buying things on KZbin I guess.