I'm not entirely sure of the timeline, but I was doing a lil research into anti-trans athlete grifters & the one who claims to have been seriously injured? 'Partial paralysis'? Was volleyball. So, while I'm fairly certain the issue is just standard transphobia, I'm not totally convinced it's not trying to avoid looking like they're celebrating/profiting from that girl. Like, animation takes forever & I'm sure this went through a nightmare S&P process, so it's possible? Thanks for covering this, finally got me off my ass to watch the ep & it made me cry. & just fyi, since starting T I just DON'T cry, so it was a LOT.

Hi to the person who made it I about to come out to my mum and dad how do you do it

Thank you for covering this topic in your usual respectful manner! This episode doesn't deserve to be on hold. Time will tell if Disney will let it air but I won't hold my breath

Damn that episode sounds amazing, and hopefully someone somwhere has legally dubious acess to it to show it.

My favorite is dot and bubble

I love you Vera. You are so rational, logical and unbiased in your figuring out of a situation. I love the way you get so passionate about things that are just wrong. Keep going.

From the point of view of someone who came up in the 60s & 70s, can you imagine all the groupies who went backstage with their heroes and did whatever was asked of them. Most of them didn’t feel like their boundaries were violated if a tongue was put in their ear, let alone other parts of their adored one’s bodies put into other parts of their bodies. Most of them were honoured and excited. Have you ever read any of the books written by former groupies? Those famous guys got away with so much shit, because sex wasn’t a big deal for most young girls at that time. “Love the one you’re with.” Maybe Neil Gaiman is still coming from that place, although he should know where things stand now if he’s taken in ANY societal changes over the years. Right from that first encounter, when he was 25, he comes across as having a schoolboy mentality and not having a clue what to do with a woman and also, one of those people who lacks empathy and so can’t read the feedback he is getting. Maybe that’s why he is a good writer. I’ve known many artists in my time, and they have, by and large, been self absorbed, childish and lacking in empathy. Is that a defence? No. Young people need to be taught that famous and talented people can be just as f***ked up as any person they meet on the street and to stop thinking they need to be near them. They will never be your friend or care about you. Never.

I remember watching it for the first time and thinking “this goes so much harder than it has any reason to” and that’s ultimately why I love it. Fav song at the moment is Genetic Repo Man.

Thank you for this video! My 7 year old loves Moon Girl and I am feeling the loss of this episode intensely. It sounds beautiful and would have made her understand so much more viscerally the worries her older sibling has for their trans bestie, especially post election.

I like the way you handle the topic of dealing with adaptations. To cancel adaptations means that many people lose an important job and the money they need way more than the author, in this case. He probably got most of his money already, its just the money he gets for his showrunning in case of The Sandman. I understand everyone who wants nothing to do with artists that revealed such an ugly face, I really do. I know that if I read The Sandman again I will have to brace myself to not gag. But I read so many books from people who are obviously not good people. I read Ceasars De Bello Gallico. I read many very old classics, and I learned a lot. I read the favourite book of H+tler, more than once, and tried to figure out how those two characters fit together. The problem with the living ones is the feeling of betrayal. I knew what kind of person Ceasar was. I did'nt see what Gaiman was, I did'nt play Sherlock Holmes before I read his books. And after that, when I wanted to know something about the author, I did'nt dive deep. And I misinterpreted the signs that are now so obvious. Will I read the books again? I will. I will not throw them away or burn them, I'm not that kind of human. Will I enjoy them? No. But I will read them for the same reason I read Ceasar: to learn. To understand how those men function, how they think, how they operate and strategize and how they hide themselves. There are many of them and they have power. To not know them, to not understand how they funtion, how they lead and manipulate us, is dangerous. Now more than ever. They have tools Ceasar did'nt have.

Everyone, including me, thought this movie would be terrible. But I’m glad to say it was actually fantastic. Highly recommend. The drama is still weird: the marketing campaign, the Ariana Grande x SpongeBob stuff, Cynthia’s weird freak out (maybe she was just having a bad day?). It’s so nice to be pleasantly surprised. Maybe there is hope for good movie musical adaptations (still sad no one talks about Tick, Tick, Boom). Now we’ll just have the longest intermission ever.

Coach Greer? Well, _that_ was _certainly_ an intentional and meaningful choice of name.

I'm sorry but the legend of zelda reference in how the vollyball was given is my favourite part of the episode

this is why I hate the lack of more episodic TV shows. I hate feeling like I'm probably missing something cool, but the TV show is boring up to the big reveal or whatever. I want more Xena and less Game of Thrones. Also bring back less serious non comedy TV shows. I miss fantasy and sci fi shows that could poke fun at itself (thats why the Orville is so good). In a world where we have an endless amount of media at our fingertips whenever we want, I don't have time to wait for something to get good after X episodes or X hours. I play a LOT of video games and have a massive backlog I want to get to. Whenever I'm watching a show or playing a game that takes a long time to get good, I just feel like I'm wasting time when I could be playing another one of my favorite games again or a new game on my endless backlog. I don't have time to for this shit.

My general rule with creators who have shown their whole ass is that I will only enjoy their product if they no longer profit from it. Because you can think a work is good and let it make you happy even if it happens to have been made by someone whose hand you wouldn't shake in public - but not they benefit from your enjoyment. Also, my heart breaks for the excellent actors and artists involved in these adaptions who are losing out from something they had no agency in.

I am curious...What do you all do with authors and artists who are dead, but who we now know were terrible people? Science fiction in particular has a long history of misogyny, racism, and homophobia. Do we throw out all the babies with the bathwater? I'm not defending Gaiman, Card, or Whedon. They are bad people. But must I stop enjoying and recommending their art?

When I was a kid Devil Dinosaur traveled the wilderness with Moon Boy, who was portrayed as a chimp with a human face. The new stories are so much better.

Episodes 9 through 14 just went up on Disney+ in Sweden, this past week or so. The release schedule here is woefully behind. Good timing, though, since it lets me watch the [Archive]'d Gatekeeper episode before continuing with the new episodes.

The movie was great, performances were stellar. I’m glad most pre-watch critics are were not necessarily right. Most of the audience loved this film. People were clapping in theaters!

The Show is great

Great discussion, very clear on what entertainment corporations are seeing as what will cost them the least. In this case is sounds like the net outcome is losing something important that would have spoken to a lot of kids. Thank you for educating me on Owl House too, not something I had heard about before.

Stumbled upon your Tube when your covering of the Gaiman allegations caught my eye. Watched the previous one and this one (all in one go!). Thank you for your thoughtful and visceral examinations. I am now subscribed. 💚

I do wanna argue with you on Inside out 2. Riley is clearly bi or gay as she had a HUGE crush on another female character. So if that's the toned down and "less gay" version is madness to me. Also Nimona was going to be disney but they axed it.

It's on internet archive

Corporations are not your friends. You can enjoy your product but never let them trick you into thinking they’re “on your side”.

First the Owl House and now this Disney just....😮‍💨 They seriously need to shape up

You know between this and their decision to close Muppet*Vision 3D (i.e. Jim Henson's last ever film)... Disney has basically pissed off a lot of their hardcore fans this week.

I've been watching your videos for a while, normally I don't comment on them (or any other videos really) but this video reminded me of my problems. I'm autistic, and for years I've been trying to get my shows televised (if you go to my channel you'll see them). TV stations here in Australia ask for a resume and I'm required by law to put down I'm autistic. Now because I'm autistic the ABC won't air my shows and when fully-abled producers pitch shows with similar concepts, they make them... and I think it's because I'm handicapped and it's part of the minority that doesn't pay taxes, there for doesn't help finance the ABC. The ABC have been like that for a long time, trying to get rid of an actress from a hit show in the 60s after she became paralysed, feeling they're not a charity set-up. Then recently I can't get community access television to air my shows, saying it's the quality... yet if you saw my shows you'd see I had them profesionally made. It wouldn't surprise me if community television didn't look at it and was like "Wow! You made a TV show! Good handicap boy!"

Disney is gatekeeping the episode "the gatekeeper" how ironic. Seriously though since roughly around the 2003ish Disney began to loos much of the imagination and innovation that made it so great. there willingness to swing for the fences and try new things is part of what gave the company its magic and that has been buried by a want from the company to play it safe. Moon Girl was doing some really unique animation by making the sound a big part of the show and animation. The representation as well was being done so well not just for the LGBTQ community but POC as well. Main character Lunella being a girl who is interested in STEM and uses math along with science to help solve a lot of the problems she faces in the series. young girls being into STEM is still not something you see a lot in kide media, never mind as a main character. It is so frustrating that a show with all of this is getting treated so poorly.

It is such a beautiful episode, cannot recommend enough for anyone interested to seek it out themselves. Vera describes all the important plot points, but seeing it play out hits different. Not only is it an important message, but the way it's presented for the show's younger demographic is very thoughtful. Not subtext, but clear, straightforward text, making a real, painful subject approachable without diminishing it. An earnest, well-crafted story sorely needed for all kids, but for trans kids especially. Also the art and animation are just beautiful, wow. The show's art style didn't grab me from the posters, but after this episode, I'm sold. There's way more to it than I was expecting, and it gives me early 2000s cartoon vibes. Strong comic book influence, great use of color, dynamic shot composition. ESPECIALLY in the sequence where the team breaks out. And with the fun video game references to boot?? Immaculate. ...Which of course adds insult to injury for Disney not letting it air. I don't believe for a second that the reason isn't connected to the episode's directly trans story. And yet, undeniably it had to get approval multiple times over the course of development. Letting the crew go through months of hard work just to pull the rug out beneath their feet at the end? Unprofessional is putting it lightly, but disrespectful is exactly it. Disney are cowards, and they're a disgrace.

"How many doors do I have to break through until they stop locking me out? I'm so tired." It was an amazing episode and it is so sad, disappointing, and angering that Disney, for whatever reason, is choosing to silence it. I truly hope that the backlash that they are receiving will get them to reconsider.

Not shocked at all by this news. Disney is not known for being LGBTI friendly. They only care about money and their bottom line, not doing the right thing

Imagine if we could get an episode about trans people in sports that acknowledges that hormones are a thing that you have to be on, and that hormones influence your muscle mass and bone structure.

What other shows are having pro-trans episodes these days? Quantum Leap (the new one) had one where he's a HS basketball coach with a trans daughter on the team...

This shit pisses me off to no end. Same shit happened with an episode of Adventure Time: Distant Lands on my country. Even if I was homophobic (which I am not), I wouldn't want to miss out on PEAK FICTION. Put that shit back on, Disney.

not me sobbing over just an episode summary

I wonder how much of this whole thing is marketing. Because this went through the roof, especially within the community. And I wonder how many people knew about this show prior to this outcry. I didn't, personally. So how much of this decision was "before we air the trans episode, we rile up all the trans people to the show?" Because in the end, there's no such thing as bad publicity. Doesn't mean I'm agreeing with their methods, especially if the episode stays cut, because heck, that's one huge cake of an episode children, especially trans children, deserve.

I love that you just casually bust out a crop as a pointing stick 😂. I will now binge every video on this channel.

It sounds like the story is that when he was younger, he would abruptly attempt physical intimacy, be rejected, and when he was explicitly rejected he would stop. Because he stops when he's explicitly rejected, he believes what he's doing is okay, and that anything which is not explicitly rejected is consensual. As an older more famous man, he started identifying and creating situations where women wouldn't reject his advances. I would describe the connections he formed with fans, offering to repeatedly meet up with them before initiating intimacy, as grooming. Neil Gaiman is not stupid. He may not have understood that what he was doing was morally wrong, I don't know what his beliefs about consent genuinely are, but he is intelligent enough to understand the power dynamics he was creating. I don't think these situations came about by accident.

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I'd watch this.

I am genuinely surprised that the antagonist's name is Greer. This is the name of a prominent TERF. I'd have thought that Disney Legal or S&P would have objected to this, and it's a *very* small change to make. Did Disney really not take issue with it? Or did they actually not do a pass on the script for the episode? Neither option seems likely to me.

Omg 😭 When you said, "How many doors do I need to break through, so I can live?" I instanly got chill all over my throat and neck!!!!😱🙏

I took your advice to check out the episode before you recounted it and wow, I was amazed and thought it was incredibly good and inspiring, just a great cartoon episode even aside from the moral and themes! I really hope a Streisand Effect happens here.

HYPE for this video!!

Cowards. Imagine caving to a bunch of literal adult babies who cry over a trans or black person being on screen for any amount of time. I’m so tired of this