Does High FPS make you a better gamer? Ft. Shroud - FINAL ANSWER

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Linus Tech Tips

4 жыл бұрын

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@nandayahya5046
@nandayahya5046 4 жыл бұрын
"Does high fps make you a better gamer?" well, 10 fps definitely doesn't
@georgimihaylov5432
@georgimihaylov5432 4 жыл бұрын
High HZ AND fps.
@GameTalk8693
@GameTalk8693 4 жыл бұрын
:/
@SayakMajumder
@SayakMajumder 4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@clinsjsn7796
@clinsjsn7796 4 жыл бұрын
been there more often the 10 fps
@hendrik4440
@hendrik4440 4 жыл бұрын
Nanda Yahya Dude ive played 10fps for lengths of time on games before lmao I know
@dtmlbb
@dtmlbb 4 жыл бұрын
They nerfed shroud by not giving him his coffee
@asadahmed2381
@asadahmed2381 4 жыл бұрын
haha
@lanukk
@lanukk 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@avalyn9060
@avalyn9060 4 жыл бұрын
DARK GOD And his g pro wireless
@dgkohn
@dgkohn 4 жыл бұрын
They needed to keep him in human form otherwise the results would be messed up by 100%! 😂
@jmrq
@jmrq 4 жыл бұрын
Shivaxi
@kaundabits
@kaundabits Жыл бұрын
I was kinda surprised that everyone thought it was such a step from 60 to 144, as i bought an 144hz monitor last year, but hadnt noticed any difference at all the first half year. Then i found out by mistake that i manually had to change from 60 to 144 and holy cow. I was lost, but now im found.
@zdvrk9813
@zdvrk9813 4 ай бұрын
bro thats some pain in the a*s, good you found out now! xD
@n64slayer
@n64slayer 3 ай бұрын
I factory reset my computer and it defaulted to 60hz I realized after a month but we good now
@morcjul
@morcjul 3 ай бұрын
​@@n64slayer Windows resets back to 60 fps pretty much after every nvidia driver update
@franciscomuler6069
@franciscomuler6069 3 ай бұрын
People 60 fps is enough if you are a casual gamer you don't need 240 fps or 120 it's just not as noticeable
@miguelarizmendi9014
@miguelarizmendi9014 3 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@franciscomuler6069100% noticeable, I play Fortnite tried 60 fps to 240 fps and let me tell you 144fps is the best after that it doesn’t make much difference but the milli second delays specially for builds it’s night and day
@justinbatdorf8964
@justinbatdorf8964 Жыл бұрын
went from 75hz onto like 165 hz monitor actually was a massive improvement, I feel as if it allowed me to use my full range of skill
@narottamakarunanidhi1731
@narottamakarunanidhi1731 Жыл бұрын
Already set your monitor refresh rate to 165hz right? I forgot to do mine for like 2 months
@justinbatdorf8964
@justinbatdorf8964 Жыл бұрын
@@narottamakarunanidhi1731 yes
@glenreed9068
@glenreed9068 Жыл бұрын
And i found out i just suck
@Scrappy-Youtube
@Scrappy-Youtube Жыл бұрын
@@glenreed9068👴🏻
@itstuxzy3982
@itstuxzy3982 Жыл бұрын
do you think i should upgrade from a 75hz to 165hz?
@GianMaaark00
@GianMaaark00 4 жыл бұрын
This doesn’t make sense because the human eye can only see up to 2gb of ram
@chrissamsico1749
@chrissamsico1749 4 жыл бұрын
This doesn't make sense because the human eye can only see 64 pixels on a frame
@Suhaibhh
@Suhaibhh 4 жыл бұрын
This doesn’t make sense because the human eye can only see 1800 watts
@tarohnish
@tarohnish 4 жыл бұрын
This doesn’t make any sense, the human can only see for 1 light year(I know it is a distance)
@SuperSohaizai
@SuperSohaizai 4 жыл бұрын
This doesn't make sense because the human ear cannot see
@WHTactics
@WHTactics 4 жыл бұрын
Absolute nonsense, the human eye can't see up to 2 gb of ram, I'll have you know the human eye can only taste 1.2ghz
@PoseidonMade
@PoseidonMade 4 жыл бұрын
Linus: calls Shroud a Twitch streamer Mixer: 😡😡😡
@themightyredemption
@themightyredemption 4 жыл бұрын
to be fair he was still on twitch when they filmed this over a month ago
@jcaashby3
@jcaashby3 4 жыл бұрын
I totally missed that LMAO!!
@jcaashby3
@jcaashby3 4 жыл бұрын
@@themightyredemption More then likely!! LOL
@InvntdXNEWROMAN
@InvntdXNEWROMAN 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, at least Linus pinned the comment, lol.
@bmx2026
@bmx2026 4 жыл бұрын
Kyle Gruber That’s why Linus is the boss man.
@DigiDriftZone
@DigiDriftZone Жыл бұрын
It’s interesting that 60hz with 300fps was within margin of error of 144hz/fps, would be interesting to see more tests with that!
@nadvic1797
@nadvic1797 Жыл бұрын
this alone shows different things already: - more fps IS important or at least DOES make a difference, even on low hz - this isn't a study and you shouldn't take any of the results actually for granted just because some people that are used to high refresh rates think that high refresh rates were great...
@DigiDriftZone
@DigiDriftZone Жыл бұрын
@@nadvic1797 yes, this was really surprising to me, it seems a sub 150fps adds quite significant input lag as well as display lag of where the enemy actually is? - regardless of display refresh rate, interesting. I wonder if this is something that can be addressed in software or what else is causing this effect.
@MyThingsRedux
@MyThingsRedux Жыл бұрын
@@DigiDriftZone it’s due to the mouse or controller input “polling” at 1000hz or whatever. So your inputs match what is rendered more closely at greater internal FPS (144 or 240fps), even if display output is 60fps. I notice a difference in camera movement responsiveness on an Xbox if I change display settings to 120fps, even if the game is locked at 60fps. The controller input is matching the frames at 120hz in the game engine. So it has 2 thumb stick updates per frame instead of one. It averages then for Greater accuracy. Similar to how iPhone screens touch input is 120hz but screen is 60fps.
@NightshiftCustom
@NightshiftCustom Жыл бұрын
wish they did all the test with this setup also
@stogiermink
@stogiermink Жыл бұрын
@@MyThingsRedux I noticed that myself. Playing on Xbox, I set the framerate to 120 fps mode on Overwatch - even if I’m only playing on a 60 hz display. The reason is because the input feels much better.
@nerdguy100
@nerdguy100 Жыл бұрын
I went from 60 to 165hz and my god i never knew it was that much of a difference..
@step_dad_alex
@step_dad_alex Жыл бұрын
i went from 60 to 240 and i screamed
@itstuxzy3982
@itstuxzy3982 Жыл бұрын
do you think i should upgrade to 165hz from 75hz
@JamesMKE
@JamesMKE Жыл бұрын
@@itstuxzy3982 I did. its worth it.
@itstuxzy3982
@itstuxzy3982 Жыл бұрын
@@JamesMKE i just switched too but my gpu cant run 165hz so i gotta upgrade my gpu
@shader5410
@shader5410 Жыл бұрын
@@itstuxzy3982 that's weird.
@thedivinecock1740
@thedivinecock1740 4 жыл бұрын
Now lets test a 100ms ping vs the casual 30ms ping and see if the ping is the reason i'm getting smoked.
@Theyoufeelme
@Theyoufeelme 4 жыл бұрын
Yes let's look into this
@Theyoufeelme
@Theyoufeelme 4 жыл бұрын
People need to upvote this
@gamingmadesimple5510
@gamingmadesimple5510 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the difference of 1ms 30ms 100ms 300ms... we all know 300ms is just terrible and a very noticable lag but be cool to have as a reference point... now how to control the latency so it doesnt fluctuate during testing?
@lucasimonelli5038
@lucasimonelli5038 4 жыл бұрын
I was Testing it. I Played a little around with a friend and we came to the conclusion that when your Ping is like 100 and you are getting peeked you have the disadvantage and when you run to cover your body is lagging behind so you can get shot even tho you are already in Cover on your screen. This disadvantage gets worse the higher your ping's getting. And no a higher ping doesn't give you more peekers Advantage bc even tho you have more time before the enemy can see you, your shots are also getting registered with a delay. Sorry for my grammar xD english is not my first language
@mongopoju
@mongopoju 4 жыл бұрын
@@lucasimonelli5038 It does give you greater peakers advantage but you will receive input (hit/kill marker) later, which matters often when there are multiple enemies.
@raynmanshorts9275
@raynmanshorts9275 4 жыл бұрын
"So you're more comfortable shooting at human targets?" "Oh, yeah. Most definitely."
@olivercousen8947
@olivercousen8947 4 жыл бұрын
hahahahha
@Titansfan81
@Titansfan81 4 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@rizkypratama9690
@rizkypratama9690 4 жыл бұрын
love this comment
@pakorn9901
@pakorn9901 4 жыл бұрын
"FBI want to know ur location"
@the0netheycallgod413
@the0netheycallgod413 4 жыл бұрын
thats so odd i at looked down at the comments 20 min in and read this at the exact same time it was said
@its9301
@its9301 2 жыл бұрын
as someone who went from 60hz, to 240hz, i can say the difference is really big, on 60hz you need to learn how to hit enemies before they are on your crosshair, while on 240hz you can actually hit them when they are there, when i was on 60hz i thought the guns in the game were like that, but then when i moved to 240 suddenly i couldnt hit shots anymore, since i was used to the delay i would always shoot before they actually were on my crosshair, for like a month i couldnt hit a single shot when i played on 240, i even searched to see if it was only my monitor that was a fake 240hz or smth lol.
@dhfa1093
@dhfa1093 Жыл бұрын
So that's why KZbinr guide tell us aim before shoot but lot of us viewers are using 60hz, so everytime we aim before shoot , we already getting shoot
@Koragh_
@Koragh_ Жыл бұрын
I went from console 60hz on fort to pc 240hz got used to it, but now that i played on 144hz its more smooth and realise thar 240 is too fast for the human eye, sometimes it gets blurry to see oponnents ill say 144hz is the sweet spot 340hz is overboard
@MedoFps
@MedoFps Жыл бұрын
@@Koragh_ 240hz vs 144hz is noticeable lol 144hz is choppy to me so idk what you mean by human eye cant see past 240hz lmfao
@freeone69
@freeone69 Жыл бұрын
i think its the compute power that makes the difference as seen in this test. higher fps means it computes faster so ur input is less delayed and u hit ur shots. i rather have 300fps and 144 hz than 300hz and 144 fps. clearly visible in these tests.
@DoozyyTV
@DoozyyTV Жыл бұрын
@@Koragh_ It depends on the monitor, some are more blurry at high refresh rates and some have special tech to make it less blurry like DyAC+ on the BenQ Zowie XL2746k
@calebgraham3334
@calebgraham3334 2 жыл бұрын
The double doors at 60mhz explanation absolutely reminds me of the "lag" behind the players movement in OSRS, but in reverse..because this isn't a network/tick interval test.
@kevlar5150
@kevlar5150 4 жыл бұрын
Biggest surprise of this video is how well Linus did.
@allyndriscoll3324
@allyndriscoll3324 4 жыл бұрын
Linus is actually good at aiming, and this was just an aiming test where the player was stationary. He's talked about on WAN how he likes to be a sniper in games for that reason, it's all about aiming and not so much about moving and shooting fast.
@richardd9349
@richardd9349 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't see anyone take any oaths about the validity of Linus' results.... hahaha
@jdabmusic
@jdabmusic 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@nabarupghosh8257
@nabarupghosh8257 4 жыл бұрын
Truly.....
@agentgreenland
@agentgreenland 4 жыл бұрын
They should of included Battle(non)Sense... He does netcode analysis games for a living on KZbin
@DemonLordGamingAC0
@DemonLordGamingAC0 4 жыл бұрын
Me: *Looks at my PC* My PC: "3, take it or leave it"
@zeromailss
@zeromailss 4 жыл бұрын
I hate how relatable this is
@luiseduardo199
@luiseduardo199 4 жыл бұрын
Dam I don't get it
@lumi5164
@lumi5164 4 жыл бұрын
@@luiseduardo199 3 frames, play or not.
@luiseduardo199
@luiseduardo199 4 жыл бұрын
@@lumi5164 3 frames per second? I'm lost bro
@carrillotony4872
@carrillotony4872 4 жыл бұрын
Mine runs CS source at like 30fps and it lags
@Egolithz
@Egolithz 2 жыл бұрын
About 2-3 years ago I went from a 60 hz monitor to a 144 hz monitor and could easily tell the difference in my gameplay between the two. I realized that everything is far less stuttery in my directional movements, which gives my eyes a easier time tracking opponents. Albeit I am not a huge FPS gamer, I play a lot more MOBAs and can say that the difference there is highly noticeable as well. Sometime in the future I will be moving up to 240 or higher hz monitors and will see if those help as significant as the switch from 60 to 144 did. Hopefully so, as I always like seeing that my abilities aren't slightly hampered by technological setbacks
@TheLazyboy0725
@TheLazyboy0725 Жыл бұрын
I recently switched from 60z to 144hz and i see everything so clearly. I play fps and moba games, i didnt see much difference in LoL but in fps games there is a huge difference. I still have to get used to playing fps games on 144hz bc my eyes were so used to seeing blurriness when turning. It makes a difference even when doing everyday tasks on the computer
@veegames3364
@veegames3364 Жыл бұрын
Was never huge into FPSs, but got really good at R6S and all the war sims these days are way more competitive. Definitely in the top 15%, wonder where I’d be if I upgraded to 144?
@oktc68
@oktc68 10 ай бұрын
I didn't notice any difference between 165 fps/Hz and 240 fps/Hz tbh. You might, but I didn't. If you could test it out I would deffo recommend doing so. I saw something a few years back and only a couple of the top e-sports players could accurately tell the higher fps rates from the 144fps/Hz "standard" of the time.
@synthshoot1026
@synthshoot1026 Жыл бұрын
Both FPS and screen resolution fall into the rule of "diminishing returns". Where you'll have to increase twice as much as before only to get half as much as you used to.
@f16krom
@f16krom 4 жыл бұрын
" FPS doesn't make you a better gamer, but makes it easier to be a better gamer"
@gytispranskunas4984
@gytispranskunas4984 4 жыл бұрын
It's same as running marathon on high heels, u can run it... But it will effect your performance.
@gytispranskunas4984
@gytispranskunas4984 4 жыл бұрын
My brother play on 60 fps League Of Legends, he's Diamond 1 now... And no matter if I use 144hz monitor he still destroy me easily.
@Luv-dq5th
@Luv-dq5th 4 жыл бұрын
@@gytispranskunas4984 league can run on a potato tho
@xChriz503
@xChriz503 4 жыл бұрын
@@Luv-dq5th it can run on 4K max settings pretty well
@hiroshhi
@hiroshhi 4 жыл бұрын
@@gytispranskunas4984 monitors doesnt really matter in league
@snapshot112
@snapshot112 4 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: even non pay-to-win games are pay-to-win.
@stevethea5250
@stevethea5250 4 жыл бұрын
Someone just stamp all of shrouds part please?
@KEROVSKI_
@KEROVSKI_ 4 жыл бұрын
Bro, if you are a noob, nothing will help you. GreekGod, I'm not sure what's his name, he had 240Hz monitor, but played on 60 for loooooong time. 🤣🤣🤣
@akathesk
@akathesk 4 жыл бұрын
ESPECIALLY online shooters
@snapshot112
@snapshot112 4 жыл бұрын
@@KEROVSKI_ this video showed that casual players (which most noobs are) actually get the best performance boost from upgrading their setup 🤷🏼‍♂
@KEROVSKI_
@KEROVSKI_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@snapshot112 no one is denying that my friend. I agree with you.
@rubenurdanivia7779
@rubenurdanivia7779 Жыл бұрын
I love the tests it explains a lot and now everyone should have an understanding that it's not always the gamer or the software it can be multiple variables. Being able to see clearly and react quickly is key and competitive gaming.
@3_pancakes767
@3_pancakes767 11 ай бұрын
everyone has the same software wtf r u saying
@ilbro7874
@ilbro7874 2 ай бұрын
Yes if u buy the best u will be the best
@EddieOtool
@EddieOtool 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of racing simulations, and I game on a 1440p monitor reduced to 1080p vertical (because old card). My FPS in game often range from 40ish to 60 on a 75Hz display. I often struggle at high speeds with identifying objects passing by in search for my breaking points and was craving for higher resolution to help me out (it would help for viewing distance, plus more details when coming closer); but I recently accidentaly discovered, when I found myself having an easier time on this, that higher FPS was making the image smoother and was helping a lot with this issue. So yeah, next panel will definitely be a 144 Hz IPS, when I can get a video card that can drive it for a decent price... I'd get 1440p 144 Hz anytime over 4k 60 FPS, since they are close equivalent in pixels per second (530M vs 498M); my current card can hardly push beyond 100-145M px/s at the lowest settings depending on titles and circumstances, so I'm a bit far off. XD
@tonyrose354
@tonyrose354 4 ай бұрын
Bro you might just wanna buy an Xbox/ps5 n save some money😂
@EddieOtool
@EddieOtool 4 ай бұрын
@@tonyrose354 Nah; shortly after I upgraded my gfx and can now drive my pannel adequately. Still saved money over a console.
@bruh-hr1mt
@bruh-hr1mt 3 жыл бұрын
finally, something to blame other than my teammates
@steivene2hot915
@steivene2hot915 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@chippark8600
@chippark8600 3 жыл бұрын
you can always blame our lord and savior lucifer
@luukherfst1209
@luukherfst1209 3 жыл бұрын
@Rigidgamer56 There is more then enough to complain about.
@user-rb9oj3zq8c
@user-rb9oj3zq8c 2 жыл бұрын
@@chippark8600 wtf
@John_Ass
@John_Ass 2 жыл бұрын
@RigidMC keyboard, table, air, light
@afki2212
@afki2212 4 жыл бұрын
We still don't know if Shroud is a human or not.
@-JohnnyWaIker-
@-JohnnyWaIker- 4 жыл бұрын
Overrated
@MrHandsomeStudios
@MrHandsomeStudios 4 жыл бұрын
Actually neither of them are humans
@darkbasty8081
@darkbasty8081 4 жыл бұрын
For now DIzzyy is better than all..
@Suppboio
@Suppboio 4 жыл бұрын
he is. Yamu and neoninja aren't tho
@LethalDoge
@LethalDoge 4 жыл бұрын
So true
@yudy92
@yudy92 2 жыл бұрын
great idea and video, would've loved to see a completely double blind experiment, where neither of you know which computer has how many frames. and only find out at the end of all the trials!
@arucarddimples1944
@arucarddimples1944 2 жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea for non gamers but with the people he used it would have been kinda pointless. You can see the differences especially from going 60 to 144. Noticing 144 to 240 would be harder but for pro level gamers who are more used to it it may not be that hard. If you noticed one the first things they check is quickly flicking from side to side, seeing how smooth the display is.
@Yveldi
@Yveldi Жыл бұрын
It is 2022 and this is still the BEST video by far on comparing the effects of refresh rates.
@qwispy3922
@qwispy3922 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not FPS that makes you better it’s your RGB and gaming chair
@itzzlolo1369
@itzzlolo1369 4 жыл бұрын
RGB increases fps so that's win win i guess
@adc6584
@adc6584 4 жыл бұрын
Itzz Lolo true facts
@croissantj9588
@croissantj9588 4 жыл бұрын
You don't say
@shamwow4619
@shamwow4619 4 жыл бұрын
LulZo
@MTW11
@MTW11 4 жыл бұрын
Truth^
@Poquito
@Poquito 4 жыл бұрын
I love how they’re all actually really interested instead of just being there for the sake of being there
@KusanagiMotoko100
@KusanagiMotoko100 4 жыл бұрын
why wouldn't they be interested?
@Jamplays592
@Jamplays592 4 жыл бұрын
sometimes they get paid for these types of things, and end up not liking it at all. The ones where this doesn't happen, don't show up on your feed.
@Exknight2
@Exknight2 4 жыл бұрын
Its interesting for them cause they are also gamers and not only that but pros too.
@bay0r
@bay0r 4 жыл бұрын
well theyre trying to answer questions we have been asking ourselves :) loved the different test for example good fps on a 60 hz vs bad fps on a 60hz
@leodietzsanz9918
@leodietzsanz9918 4 жыл бұрын
My guy who makes rocket league training packs! I think I played one today actually lmao
@Torchmanz
@Torchmanz 2 жыл бұрын
This video, when it came out a few years ago, actually motivated me to finally pull the trigger on a high refresh rate gaming monitor. Going from a 60 monitor to 144 was the best upgrade I ever made. I highly recommend it for anyone thinking about it.
@Treffnixll
@Treffnixll 2 жыл бұрын
once on 144 hz you'll never want to go lower , i feel ya .
@killertruth186
@killertruth186 Жыл бұрын
You will not feel bad if you go to 240hz. Since 360hz monitors already on the market and is selling for hundreds more in a 24-inch screen at the time of this comment.
@hughjaenus2235
@hughjaenus2235 Жыл бұрын
My wallet doesn't recommended it
@jesussancen7459
@jesussancen7459 Жыл бұрын
But the human I can't register far beyond 144 Hz or 240 thos so way all the hipe of more fps rate it is point less and a waste of money
@danielmann316
@danielmann316 Жыл бұрын
@@jesussancen7459 on call of duty duty, that 240hz guy will win most duels
@atojnod
@atojnod Жыл бұрын
A master piece of a video, i give a huge thanks for this kind of videos that needs an effort of thinking about the casual answer that anyone who have played once at least videogames ask himself, but nobody makes it because it's too hard enough. Not only we learn gaming stuff, it is physics aplied to life, and give a truly understanding of how our brain works.
@edfrederick3630
@edfrederick3630 4 жыл бұрын
"I will be trickiest as I can" *peek right in the middle*
@henrysymes
@henrysymes 4 жыл бұрын
Thieu Quang Trung I was actually super impressed with Shroud’s guess there, Linus’ comment hardly gave the game away and I think it reflected a very good analysis on Shroud’s part. Sorry to hijack your comment.
@xhivo97
@xhivo97 4 жыл бұрын
@@henrysymes nah dude they were in sync, he knew what he was thinking
@joemartin7451
@joemartin7451 4 жыл бұрын
that's ironically tricky.
@MrKazukstan
@MrKazukstan 4 жыл бұрын
That was an unfair way to end the round
@bladerj
@bladerj 4 жыл бұрын
@@henrysymes it was on purpose so shround win, dont be a sheep. this is scripted you morons
@blownawaygamer153
@blownawaygamer153 3 жыл бұрын
inside our heart we all know that skills, fps, refresh rate etc. doesn't make you a better gamer. RGB does.
@Vorkuta_
@Vorkuta_ 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you copy the exact same comment?
@tris0913
@tris0913 3 жыл бұрын
spread the truth
@Spiriluli
@Spiriluli 3 жыл бұрын
But not more than the gaming chair
@jkwrld3171
@jkwrld3171 3 жыл бұрын
Weapon skins as well
@heyimkayo3230
@heyimkayo3230 3 жыл бұрын
@@Spiriluli fuck it make the chair rgb
@NahBra_EUC
@NahBra_EUC Жыл бұрын
This was the coolest test I have ever seen performed online. Thanks for that.
@Point5_
@Point5_ Жыл бұрын
I noticed my settings weren't to 144Hz like they should and when i switched, i instantly noticed a difference. Felt like putting my glasses on after a long time without them. And that's from someone who usually doesn't see that much differences in those things
@lynx100d7
@lynx100d7 3 жыл бұрын
I just moved from PS4 to PC and played GTA V. I gotta say 60fps strip club is better than 30fps strip club. The dance was so fluid...
@smwfreak1647
@smwfreak1647 3 жыл бұрын
XD bro
@hlxadi
@hlxadi 3 жыл бұрын
bruh
@k0mi70
@k0mi70 3 жыл бұрын
I can confirm
@bhopirl4552
@bhopirl4552 3 жыл бұрын
Now try cyberpunk
@lynx100d7
@lynx100d7 3 жыл бұрын
@@bhopirl4552 tbh, Im going to wait until everything is patched up and optimized. I dont wanna pay big bucks for a rushed game
@neednot22
@neednot22 4 жыл бұрын
Shroud without coffee : have an average response time in a pro gamer category Shroud with coffee : Human Aimbot
@bugcache7788
@bugcache7788 4 жыл бұрын
Its like buff ob mobile legend
@tyr8338
@tyr8338 4 жыл бұрын
I doubt he drinks coffe while playing, it makes your hands shake. Pure guarana is much better in that case, gives you better concentration and reaction speed without shaky hands.
@7yan838
@7yan838 4 жыл бұрын
@@tyr8338 where u get that from, the guaraná stuff
@tyr8338
@tyr8338 4 жыл бұрын
@@7yan838 You can buy it in apothecary, just check ingrident list before purchase because guarana is often sold with caffeine mixed in and it would still make your hands shake.
@7yan838
@7yan838 4 жыл бұрын
@@tyr8338 in Perú we have guaraná from guaraná sodas does that count? Hajajahaja
@EddieOtool
@EddieOtool 2 жыл бұрын
Well that was interesting. Idea for 2022: Rematch, but evaluating resolution VS refresh rate (240-360 Hz 1080p vs 144 Hz 1440p vs 60 Hz 4k). That'd be GREAT.
@ItzKamo
@ItzKamo 2 жыл бұрын
The best is 1440p 240Hz.
@elaiswaifu5459
@elaiswaifu5459 2 жыл бұрын
@@tspooner01 Samsung Oddsey G7 is 550$…does 1440p 240hz And many others are definitely under 1000$ Research before you speak some nonsense man. This ain’t 2018 or whatever anymore
@elaiswaifu5459
@elaiswaifu5459 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItzKamo definitely…1440p 240hz is ideal
@115zombies935
@115zombies935 11 ай бұрын
@@ItzKamoNah, 8K 1000hz is better
@marcuspvxea
@marcuspvxea 2 жыл бұрын
he missed to mention the most important part at 11:13 is not the rendering, but the server feedback between both the clients and the server to where his hitbox was when he jumped. which is the biggest factor in response time when it comes to hitting something in the game. If it were a local feedback, that werent depending on Client to client registration that jumps back and forth between a server it would be giving a different result.
@ewalkobeats7838
@ewalkobeats7838 3 жыл бұрын
Shroud has the most “i need caffeine or I will actually die” voice
@sebbo9696
@sebbo9696 3 жыл бұрын
thats the voice adderall addicts make when they out of adderall
@bobpro583
@bobpro583 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebbo9696 frl?
@pensive955
@pensive955 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobpro583 no it's the "i've smoked 12 packs of cigarettes a day since the age of 4 " voice
@VelociRapT0M
@VelociRapT0M 3 жыл бұрын
He sounds like Principal Skinner.
@sanket9305
@sanket9305 3 жыл бұрын
That's the codeine voice lmao. Man sounds like white lil Wayne
@peachy6009
@peachy6009 4 жыл бұрын
Deep down we all know it's the gaming chair that matters😔
@speilmeister921
@speilmeister921 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, of corse!
@rennycepeda6576
@rennycepeda6576 3 жыл бұрын
this shit low key true lmao
@darthidiot7563
@darthidiot7563 3 жыл бұрын
WEAR GAMING SOCKS. I was able to hit 100% more shots
@pranav288
@pranav288 3 жыл бұрын
no its the rgb
@obitouchiha2984
@obitouchiha2984 3 жыл бұрын
lol gaming chair = better performance
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 2 жыл бұрын
30:20 I think the accurate way to put it is that if your game has input handling synchronized to output frames, you obviously want high FPS. For games that run input in parallel thread running at e.g. 1000 Hz the output frame rate has obviously zero effect on your input delay. Counter Strike would be an example of a game where input latency is defined by the output FPS (the frames rendered by the GPU, not the monitor).
@chupasaurus
@chupasaurus Жыл бұрын
You still get the most recent frame on monitor which is FPS/refresh_rate - 1 frames less input lag between screen and game engine. Full input lag consists of many things.
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen Жыл бұрын
@@chupasaurus Yes, but input latency is from movement of the mouse to the game engine reacting to it. Some games run game physics loop in 1000 Hz and can accept mouse input 1000 events per second. On the other hand, games such as CS:GO read mouse and keyboard event *once* per rendered frame. As a result, you get better mouse movement tracking in the game engine if you have higher FPS because any curved mouse movement will be more accurately tracked.
@jefferyduncan162
@jefferyduncan162 Жыл бұрын
@@MikkoRantalainen obviously replying to an old comment but exactly. It’s surprising how many people have trouble understanding this. A lot of older games had the input logic tied to the render logic and so higher fps even with your monitor not displaying them increases responsiveness. I’ve tried to in the past decouple input and render logic on older games but it tends to leave the game feeling somewhat strange.
@jefferyduncan162
@jefferyduncan162 Жыл бұрын
@@MikkoRantalainen obviously replying to an old comment but exactly. It’s surprising how many people have trouble understanding this. A lot of older games had the input logic tied to the render logic and so higher fps even with your monitor not displaying them increases responsiveness. I’ve tried to in the past decouple input and render logic on older games but it tends to leave the game feeling somewhat strange.
@kutsy3785
@kutsy3785 2 жыл бұрын
What I would love to know is the order of the test rigs being used. I would like to know whether there is substantial correlation to performance improvement in the rigs being used last compared to the ones used first. Since I know for a fact, familiarity with the test will matter. Random order can only eliminate the change on multiple swaps and alot more tests to average out the standart deviation.
@roger109z
@roger109z 4 жыл бұрын
"are we on 64 tick?" is the most CS:GO thing I've heard in my life
@silverwerewolf975
@silverwerewolf975 4 жыл бұрын
because 64 ticks is cancer....
@azz858
@azz858 4 жыл бұрын
He was interping 😂
@Xotwod69
@Xotwod69 4 жыл бұрын
I miss so many awp shots on 64...
@lime4
@lime4 4 жыл бұрын
hahaha but it does make a big difference
@kinglucky6594
@kinglucky6594 4 жыл бұрын
@@vehementtoast83 kinsi66 did a test comparing 128 and 64 with people entering a server and predicting the tick rate at the end of the dm server the results were interesting it was 50 50. Tickrate does matter but not as much as you think
@summersolstice1459
@summersolstice1459 4 жыл бұрын
You should send some of those PC's to me so I can do the test myself and confirm the results..
@hellohooman8962
@hellohooman8962 4 жыл бұрын
Then sell them.
@itscoolthough419
@itscoolthough419 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Hooman and sell the results as well
@egil8166
@egil8166 4 жыл бұрын
And me too, because obviously you need more subjects
@joemama-bo5ef
@joemama-bo5ef 3 жыл бұрын
i agree send this man those pc's
@Yumi.ng9
@Yumi.ng9 3 жыл бұрын
Don't put that much work on your shoulder let me help you
@mousycritter
@mousycritter Жыл бұрын
Went from 60hz to 165hz last month, in the f2p fps ironsight, i went from hitting 70 kill games, to over 100. Very noticeable difference.
@pStar58
@pStar58 Жыл бұрын
Waiting on mine can’t wait
@mousycritter
@mousycritter Жыл бұрын
@@pStar58 Hopefully it's soon, it's all the difference as a first time user bro, believe me when I say you will never go back.
@rokikshasas
@rokikshasas Жыл бұрын
@@mousycritter I just made the same upgrade + 1440p from 1080... what have I been doing all these years pepeHands it's so beautiful
@mousycritter
@mousycritter Жыл бұрын
@@rokikshasas Lol fr, I can't really afford a good gaming rig tho but its alright.
@K3ntucky123
@K3ntucky123 Жыл бұрын
oh shoot, i tried someone friends pc and play battlefield. and your right, i got 10 kills to 2 kills :). hz really improves your pro gameplay
@stunningride6073
@stunningride6073 Жыл бұрын
Awr....spotted that one way to late. Would have been interesting to test, if high refresh-rate CRT monitors (the way those old monitors work is even more predictable) would have made a noticeable impact as well. And some 'electrophysical' experiments would have been even more fun to watch.
@crby101
@crby101 4 жыл бұрын
"Want a Redbull?" "What about coffee?" MY MAN
@tuhaggis
@tuhaggis 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta give it to him, he's great at marketing
@BotBrendan
@BotBrendan 4 жыл бұрын
Madrina’s dawg
@Chambalero
@Chambalero 4 жыл бұрын
@@BotBrendan efreeeeeeeeeeeeeereereeereeefeererereergereererfregeeeeeeteeeefrereehhreeeeerfeerer
@andresp1582
@andresp1582 4 жыл бұрын
Genius
@cuteteddyeverywhere
@cuteteddyeverywhere 4 жыл бұрын
he always recycles.
@adamsonntag5755
@adamsonntag5755 3 жыл бұрын
Being single makes you a better gamer.
@chenglu9876
@chenglu9876 3 жыл бұрын
I see you are a man of culture as well
@waynewilliams5353
@waynewilliams5353 3 жыл бұрын
@Did You Know About The New MMORPG its totally free seriously? Cuss at someone for saying being single makes you a better gamer? Obviously it is because you have more time to play the game. His comment wasn't asinine. If he has less time to game then at least he is prioritizing his girl over gaming. Wtf is wrong with you people? A harmless comment turns people into demented SJWs cursing at people over stupidity
@jonahwilhelm8409
@jonahwilhelm8409 3 жыл бұрын
How do yall think that's rude? Sure it doesnt apply to everyone, but not having a spouse or whatever will obviously give you more alone time to practice. He didnt say he wishes he was single or anything. Get a life
@torq6034
@torq6034 3 жыл бұрын
That's so true bruh
@daymdaniel4307
@daymdaniel4307 3 жыл бұрын
LMAOO
@GlennsFastReviews
@GlennsFastReviews Жыл бұрын
I'm curious as to the differences that are demonstrated between players. For example, on the double doors results (17:02), 60 to 144 made a big difference, but 144 to 240 made very little difference for the pros, and yet Linus and Paul improved dramatically. So, basically, it seems to me that the skills of a casual player (if Linus can be called that) can be buffed through better tech, but the pros eventually reach a plateau where the tech doesn't help nearly as much, showing where their real potential truly lies. As an old gamer who's average and declining, playing with the server desync on Roblox with a 10 yo laptop, upgrading to a new computer eliminated the problems I experienced that were causing me to fail more...But didn't make a big difference where speed and accuracy (without lag) were required. So, higher refresh is very helpful but higher FPS is much more important. I think these tests show that there's a sweet spot for improvement via tech, and it lies between 144 and 240 FPS, with higher refresh, but I'm not sure where. Very interesting! Videos like this are of much more interest to me than your fluff videos.
@gabrielbarrera3447
@gabrielbarrera3447 5 ай бұрын
I agree. For me, the sweet spot is 165 Hz. Never tried a 240Hz monitor, but I just don’t see myself needing to get to that anytime soon. 165Hz feels right.
@deadsea6714
@deadsea6714 2 жыл бұрын
ive been playing games on 60fps 60 hz for 10 years now and since i bought my new 144hz monitor my skill has improved i feel like i have gotten better at flick shotting
@zodiac3042
@zodiac3042 4 жыл бұрын
"hey, you could beat me here." -shroud giving false hope for linus.
@yan3066
@yan3066 4 жыл бұрын
I was hyped at 22:52, and when it cames to 3-1 for Linus. I enjoyed every second of it lol
@fortnitefortnite8122
@fortnitefortnite8122 4 жыл бұрын
"twitch streamers" "Shroud" Uh oh
@freeman_8107
@freeman_8107 4 жыл бұрын
KEKW
@Smurrei
@Smurrei 4 жыл бұрын
pepeLaugh
@BudgiePanic
@BudgiePanic 4 жыл бұрын
They lack critical information
@iamcallumj
@iamcallumj 4 жыл бұрын
@DMoney Industry summit 1 gram
@tkyooh194
@tkyooh194 4 жыл бұрын
Boomers PepeLaugh
@NGEvangeliman
@NGEvangeliman 4 ай бұрын
Im seeing this 4 years later, goddamn shroud. That reaction time vs the others
@lullylew9083
@lullylew9083 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see this test again but with a CRT monitor included.
@jswarbrick94
@jswarbrick94 4 жыл бұрын
Grimmmz out here looking like he should be playing bass for Metallica
@guiuy5249
@guiuy5249 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@yuridavy
@yuridavy 4 жыл бұрын
He looks like he should be doing ads for hair straighteners.
@jswarbrick94
@jswarbrick94 4 жыл бұрын
YuriDavy you’re not wrong hahaha
@johndilig6719
@johndilig6719 4 жыл бұрын
Head & Shoulders is looking to sign him... Disclaimer: this is a joke
@sebharvey9101
@sebharvey9101 4 жыл бұрын
Or making the next Quake/Doom game with John Carmack...
@JM-wm8ip
@JM-wm8ip 4 жыл бұрын
We all know that it's their gaming chair that makes a difference
@steffbonneux5764
@steffbonneux5764 4 жыл бұрын
John Monk bruh chill out i ain’ fucking with you vibe
@DASmallWorlds
@DASmallWorlds 4 жыл бұрын
The best 'gaming' chair is an ergonomic office chair from the likes of Steelcase or Herman Miller.
@itsmesuryat7570
@itsmesuryat7570 4 жыл бұрын
And their downloaded RAM
@josepvhs9899
@josepvhs9899 4 жыл бұрын
These guys don't know what they're talking about. Gaming chairs are great! If you want to sleep get an office chair. As a gamer you must be on your toes with great posture for the quickest reactions!
@Herkan97
@Herkan97 4 жыл бұрын
@John Monk They say the same thing about "gaming" headsets. I don't know, but I guess that makes sense. Company wants to earn money, put gaming behind stuff and people will buy it for the status. Doesn't have to be as good for the same price range, just enough status to satisfy those types of people.
@DuckyOnQuack.999
@DuckyOnQuack.999 2 жыл бұрын
Response time the monitor has also makes a slight difference most high refresh’s monitors have a 0.5ms or a 1.0ms response times
@ekzpo3876
@ekzpo3876 Жыл бұрын
From 144 to 240 I have noticed that it can sometimes be hard to distinguish players from the environment as quickly since they do not have the classic "jittery" movements that I am used to reacting to. It can be seen at 19:00 very well. It is similar to games with improved graphic qualities... sometimes I just need to lower the quality of grass/trees so that I can catch those tiny little moments where a player scootches or wiggles and becomes displaced from their environment. This really only applies to environments that are mostly static but sometimes getting better input/quality/fps can circumvent niche techniques that we have relied upon to overcome obstacles. Another example that has come to mind is moving from a wired to wireless mouse. I was used to the occasional tugging or resistance from the front of my mouse and losing that made me feel as if my mouse was spinning/rotating in my hand instead of being dragged across my desk. In all regards I had made a technological advancement and should have seen improvements but instead felt like I had to relearn.
@maxdamagus
@maxdamagus 3 ай бұрын
If you saw jittery movement at 144hz you had a crap monitor. Probably dimming.
@denan30
@denan30 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap... Can we take a moment to appreciate Linus for getting shroud from all the comments :O on the last video
@trapical
@trapical 4 жыл бұрын
That's why I find this channel so entertaining. First he gets Gav from SlowMoGuys to show up and help film the previous video on this. Then when people say "You should have gotten Shroud", Linus just goes "Alright, let's just get Shroud". What a mad lad.
@rkan2
@rkan2 4 жыл бұрын
Thank Nvidia for paying for the flights :P
@tamie341
@tamie341 4 жыл бұрын
I get way more stoked when he has other legit tech youtubers on than any of the gamers. Paul and Bitwit! Hell ya come over anytime guys!
@InvntdXNEWROMAN
@InvntdXNEWROMAN 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was actually impressed they got Shroud.
@shahriar4706
@shahriar4706 4 жыл бұрын
They are both sons of Madrinas Coffee
@FroddyPlay
@FroddyPlay 4 жыл бұрын
"we got some twitch streamers" *shows footage of shrouds mixer reveal*
@Trashloot
@Trashloot 4 жыл бұрын
Twitch is the standard brand when it comes to streaming services. Its like when you order a Pepsi / Coke but you just want some Cola.
@ekspressmusic
@ekspressmusic 4 жыл бұрын
Well it was filmed before he moved to mixer.
@ClaudioBOsorio
@ClaudioBOsorio 4 жыл бұрын
@@ekspressmusic u kidding right? this was a blunder by them. What part of "Mixer reveal footage" you didnt get xD
@electricalastro
@electricalastro 4 жыл бұрын
@@ekspressmusic wtf
@ekspressmusic
@ekspressmusic 4 жыл бұрын
@@ClaudioBOsorio my point was that it was filmed before mixer and edited after. Mistake or not, it dosnt matter.
@filipladan7756
@filipladan7756 2 жыл бұрын
In my own experience, hopping from 60Hz to 144Hz was a big difference in feeling and as for most fps players when I jumped from 144Hz to 240Hz the difference was there but not as much as the previous jump, although for a short period of time I had to jump back to 144Hz and it was literally as bad for me as 60Hz. When experiencing 240Hz anything below that felt just as bad, even 144Hz.
@Gr8FriknApe
@Gr8FriknApe 2 жыл бұрын
I went back to 144hz from 240 hz. It just feels better and my speed to target and headshots are right on. I wonder if my eyes are not built for anything beyond 144 hz (laughing hard). Where DOES the madness end?!
@filipladan7756
@filipladan7756 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gr8FriknApe Its probably just that you are used to 144 more than 240. And where will the madness end? We'll know one day, maybe.
@natisasleep
@natisasleep 2 жыл бұрын
i also jumped from a laptop 60hz to a high end pc 144hz and i instantly became better lmao
@Gr8FriknApe
@Gr8FriknApe 2 жыл бұрын
@@filipladan7756 Totally understand your reasoning. I have more time on the 240hz, however, as I still use it for my everyday monitor vs gaming just for wear and tear purposes. BTW, 240 hz monitors don't last as long as 144hz monitors (personal experience only).
@filipladan7756
@filipladan7756 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gr8FriknApe the part where 144Hz monitor last longer is def true in my experince as well, I still own the first 144Hz monitor (Asus VG278HE) and it still works fine and I use it as my 2nd monitor now that I have a 240Hz one
@HavokR505
@HavokR505 2 жыл бұрын
FYI: those misses on double door has to do with Hitboxes. the backpack isnt a hitbox PLUS its 128tick so the hitboxes arent lagging behind the models as much due to interp
@MrRizrulz
@MrRizrulz 4 жыл бұрын
Linus: I'm gonna be stealthy for this last kill Linus:*appears dead center on shroud's crosshair*
@adrianogil
@adrianogil 4 жыл бұрын
center for both. this is a test for reaction and shroud response more faster this moment.
@Bluscream
@Bluscream 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@CoffeeAddictGuy
@CoffeeAddictGuy 4 жыл бұрын
ikr lol
@jojoo4094
@jojoo4094 4 жыл бұрын
Adriano Figueira Gil not reaction actually it’s at this point where 240hz shows it’s advantages , like even linus would have won that against cory if he was using the 240hz monitor.
@vampirethespiderbatgod9740
@vampirethespiderbatgod9740 4 жыл бұрын
@@jojoo4094 Still , remember that Shroud's response time is faster than us.
@MojoMicah
@MojoMicah 4 жыл бұрын
So another case of "You're not ugly, you're just poor"
@mortymain
@mortymain 4 жыл бұрын
yess
@mayukhnandi8085
@mayukhnandi8085 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment ever * sad kermit face *
@brandongreene3213
@brandongreene3213 4 жыл бұрын
Feels bad bro
@G3RM3X617
@G3RM3X617 4 жыл бұрын
Who would the real pros be if we all had the most powerful hardware.... the people who pay them dont care who the real best are they just care they are watched so they can make money
@aleksandarruben9395
@aleksandarruben9395 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, rich people have all the fun. Which is kinda stupid, since they can use that same money to have lots of fun in real world instead of the virtual. Who needs simulated when you can have the real thing...
@Blackreaper777
@Blackreaper777 2 жыл бұрын
Now that 500Hz display is announced, it would really be interesting to see if going that crazy actually makes a difference anymore.
@toby1248
@toby1248 2 жыл бұрын
Nvidia did a demo in their presentation that shows that it still does. Also even if response times become irrelevant motion blur will still keep improving well into the thousands of Hz
@Blackreaper777
@Blackreaper777 2 жыл бұрын
@@toby1248 Well yeah, of course it does in a slow motion demo, but does it matter in a real scenario.
@mybeautifulcat7011
@mybeautifulcat7011 Жыл бұрын
Human eye can’t see further than 240Hz
@toby1248
@toby1248 Жыл бұрын
@@mybeautifulcat7011 that's blatantly not true - the human eye can still see the motion blur even at 1000hz
@latinstuff1
@latinstuff1 Жыл бұрын
@@mybeautifulcat7011 probably not the central nervous part of the eye but the peripheral side of the eye can certainly do , since its connected to the subconscious mind.
@goldencheeze
@goldencheeze 10 ай бұрын
Been using 240hz for a couple years now, the difference is night and day with hitscan sniper weapone
@sassybutthole6640
@sassybutthole6640 4 жыл бұрын
“Well don’t apologize to me apologize to million of the viewers” -Linus roasting tips
@PR3D1CT
@PR3D1CT 4 жыл бұрын
it was a roast and a flex at the same time
@pheniox7742
@pheniox7742 4 жыл бұрын
Linus sex tips
@3liMoe
@3liMoe 4 жыл бұрын
Linus : 60 fps is bad Me: Cries in 720p 24fps
@flycrack7686
@flycrack7686 4 жыл бұрын
just upgrade!
@Luna-km2zr
@Luna-km2zr 4 жыл бұрын
@@flycrack7686 not everyone can afford it
@flycrack7686
@flycrack7686 4 жыл бұрын
@@Luna-km2zr really you are telling me you cant afford an used pc with ryzen/ram/gpu but you have the time to brag about? doesnt make sense!
@3liMoe
@3liMoe 4 жыл бұрын
@@flycrack7686 i just upgraded before i read your comment, but thanks tho, didn't know what i can do without you yet i can cry in 1080 60fps now :D
@Luna-km2zr
@Luna-km2zr 4 жыл бұрын
@@flycrack7686 1.how is that bragging 2. Can't really afford itil I'm lucky enough to afford a phone. 3. Even if I had that spare I'd invest it to make more money.
@1whospeaks
@1whospeaks Жыл бұрын
Basically with lower frame rates you have to subconsciously interpolate more, even if you're a pro having to guess where someone's head is in BETWEEN frames means confidence is what is most affected. Some players are less affected by this loss of confidence, and some players are so incompetent (me) that there is no change in confidence because we can barely track a barn door as is.
@HenrikMyrhaug
@HenrikMyrhaug 2 жыл бұрын
I have played Fortnite on the switch at 30fps, and have recently built a computer and tried fortnite at 144 fps, and the difference is HUGE. Harvesting materials is much easier now that the latency is lower, meaning I can flick to the circles much easier, and the same is true for close range shotgun shots. The better framerate also allows me to do more actions each second, meaning my builds and edits much more rarely fail to register. Whenever I use my laptop now, it feels so bad that the cursor jitters a lot more and is much less smooth. I am currently waiting for a 1440p monitor I recently bought to arrive, that way I can also see how much a higher resolution will help. I am not expecting it to be nearly as drastic of a difference, since my 'old' 1080p 144hz monitor is the same size. So the only effect resolution will have is letting me resolve things from further away, meaning easier snipes and long range AR shots, but not any better performance in game.
@markmcnair5864
@markmcnair5864 4 жыл бұрын
“Don’t apologize to me, apologize to the millions of viewers.” Literally laughed out loud 🤣
@deadly1075
@deadly1075 4 жыл бұрын
same 😆️
@crustykeycap5670
@crustykeycap5670 4 жыл бұрын
mrvalski the irony
@castcrus
@castcrus 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrvalski his on mixer
@MalteSpieltYT
@MalteSpieltYT 4 жыл бұрын
@@castcrus no shit
@Davidbruun
@Davidbruun 4 жыл бұрын
@@castcrus Wooosh
@ReqeezRafiq
@ReqeezRafiq 4 жыл бұрын
Shroud was using 2% of his brain because he didn't get his coffee
@burnedout385
@burnedout385 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@xDE_SOL4TIONx
@xDE_SOL4TIONx 4 жыл бұрын
240 percent truth
@xDE_SOL4TIONx
@xDE_SOL4TIONx 4 жыл бұрын
imagine him on drugs, don't ya... ehh
@alfpolo29
@alfpolo29 4 жыл бұрын
@@xDE_SOL4TIONx Shroud doped ? I think could conquer the World :)
@anirudhsanjeev3998
@anirudhsanjeev3998 4 жыл бұрын
Guess you talking bout his redbulls xD
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you redo this kind of testing to see if 60 Hz (or some other lowish framerate) combined with black frame insertion (BFI, also called ULMB or something else weird by different manufacturers) is equally effective to higher framerates on sample and hold displays. And if you test with a game like Counter Strike where input latency is defined by frames rendered on the GPU, I think you should lock the framerate to 240 FPS to the GPU and render whatever frame is ready to the monitor to make the testing equal for all displays. I'd expect that 60 Hz BFI display scores equally well to 240 Hz sample and hold display. However, make sure to use a BFI display that doesn't cause ghosting (two images rendered partially overlapping). Unfortunately, many manufacturers fail here. At least it's easy to check if that happens with high speed camera. Of course, I'd expect the best performance to happen with 240 Hz BFI display running with 480 Hz input loop. Another interesting test would be to test if it's better to run higher FPS and lower resolution or accept some hit on the FPS to get more accurate rendering. I'd expect it worthwhile to sacrifice the resolution if you cannot get the input loop around 120 Hz all the time.
@Alex.UA6
@Alex.UA6 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to know if it would’ve made a difference if they had of started at 240 and worked their way down to 60 For the reaction time test
@Sunmoon35.-
@Sunmoon35.- Жыл бұрын
Trueee I agree
@pecador_cont
@pecador_cont Жыл бұрын
True, instead of getting used to it
@keno5185
@keno5185 4 жыл бұрын
I've never thought I’d see shroud on this channel lol
@Ikeibr
@Ikeibr 4 жыл бұрын
I saw shroud and immediately upvoted kkkkkk
@campitbull6226
@campitbull6226 4 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Nagano what the fuck is upvoting? This is KZbin
@pecosR0B
@pecosR0B 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of Shroud, but tbh LTT is bigger than Shroud lol I love videos like this
@AG.Floats
@AG.Floats 4 жыл бұрын
That I'd see shroud*
@Ikeibr
@Ikeibr 4 жыл бұрын
@@campitbull6226 srry, I immediately LIKED
@randomyoutuber5147
@randomyoutuber5147 4 жыл бұрын
linus - 60 fps is bad me- (getting 30 fps) today is a lucky day
@randomyoutuber5147
@randomyoutuber5147 4 жыл бұрын
@Murad i think you have also experienced my pain:(
@randomyoutuber5147
@randomyoutuber5147 4 жыл бұрын
@Murad will gta 5 work on i3 6006u 4gb ram intel hd 520 ?? Plz tell
@hishamnorris2059
@hishamnorris2059 4 жыл бұрын
But I play 60 fps on ps4 pro he just said my £400 machine is bad then U_U
@MattyBudzzz
@MattyBudzzz 4 жыл бұрын
@metal_ak4 if i was gettin 30fps on my pc id just get a console and hook up a mouse and keyboard lol. everyones different and everyone has their reasons for stuff but me personally if im not getting better performance or graphics on my computer than i would on a console i dont see the point in playing on a computer. id just load up a browser and vid on one monitor and then play console on the other if i wanna game. now i know finances are big factor in all that so.
@morid3938
@morid3938 4 жыл бұрын
I treat 30FPS like the ultra-high experience I can get.. what IS 60fps?
@lozyl956
@lozyl956 2 жыл бұрын
just 2 years ago... i miss these kinds of projects
@fifthgear93
@fifthgear93 2 жыл бұрын
The dust2 double door test really was eye opening.
@MANiACmiget925
@MANiACmiget925 4 жыл бұрын
"Frames wins games" Nvidia's marketing department is punching the air right now
@Cyber_Nomad
@Cyber_Nomad 4 жыл бұрын
And high refresh rate monitor company
@blue17echo
@blue17echo 4 жыл бұрын
That's why they sponsored this video....
@Fosten12
@Fosten12 4 жыл бұрын
Well they do.
@bigfootlive89
@bigfootlive89 4 жыл бұрын
I think so. With one ad, less than a dozen subjects, and probably a few thousand in spending, Nvidia put out the best evidence yet that the idea of "frames wins games" is evidence based. In the medical world, marketing material like this would need to be FDA reviewed before being shared. Obviously theres a lot less at stake in gaming vs with medicines, but it's interesting to me to see how differently these industries are regulated. Linus has occasionally spoken about how his statements during paid promotions are different from those he makes during his own content. I wonder to what extent his statements presented here are influenced by the fact that it's a paid promotion.
@grizzly6699
@grizzly6699 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigfootlive89 Yep, true. Also, while there are no Nvidia RTX boxes in the background of the end of the video. The background is overly green.... hmmm... Subliminal messaging anyone?
@InvntdXNEWROMAN
@InvntdXNEWROMAN 4 жыл бұрын
Linus, You need to run this test again with Shroud on coffee sips.
@batt3ryac1d
@batt3ryac1d 4 жыл бұрын
Gonna have to. Shroud without coffee is like everyone else playing while holding their breath.
@MistaCheezySTEAM
@MistaCheezySTEAM 4 жыл бұрын
batt3ryac1d id be willing to argue most of the best plays in esport history under stressful situations are done with the player not breathing for a sec 😂
@kitvr9171
@kitvr9171 4 жыл бұрын
Not on just any coffee but shroud branded coffee
@ProFow
@ProFow 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t you mean ADDERALL
@jedifabiano930
@jedifabiano930 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly this is realistic but coffee is what shroud breathes
@waffless0220
@waffless0220 2 жыл бұрын
2022 and oddly enough, im still waiting for a part 3
@DrGooseDuckman
@DrGooseDuckman 2 жыл бұрын
Waaaay late to this one, but I would love to see more of these hardware vs monitor vs gamers vs Linus vs Paul things. Fantastic.
@localcoffee5248
@localcoffee5248 4 жыл бұрын
Next episode: Does high FPS make you a better person?
@pseudonymm1407
@pseudonymm1407 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine the testing method lmao
@FootyCrazyM8
@FootyCrazyM8 4 жыл бұрын
nah cos real life is locked at 30
@Clex-
@Clex- 4 жыл бұрын
Ur ear can only see 10 frames per random access memory ghz
@goldwally1428
@goldwally1428 4 жыл бұрын
DEFINITELY !! more fps = more money
@AageKush
@AageKush 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@beys1ck901
@beys1ck901 4 жыл бұрын
Me : *loaded with caffeine, pops 185ms average* Me : INHUMAN REACTIONS Shroud : *pops constant 165-170ms* Shroud : I'm so slow
@c3sargtx97
@c3sargtx97 4 жыл бұрын
In his years of glory he had like 140ms
@sentfromheaven00
@sentfromheaven00 4 жыл бұрын
Me: *with caffeine directly injected into my veins, 285ms average :(*
@LurkerPatrol5
@LurkerPatrol5 4 жыл бұрын
The best I can do is 210ms, as a 32 year old.
@Dazecore
@Dazecore 4 жыл бұрын
@@LurkerPatrol5 where do you even test such a thing?
@LurkerPatrol5
@LurkerPatrol5 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dazecore Google "human benchmark". They have a small array of tests, one of them being reaction time.
@howardjohnson5146
@howardjohnson5146 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just glad to still be alive to see 4k, just in time to start losing my eyesight ;_;. What about CS@ 10fps? its lot more like shooting long range with wind irl. Gaming since 1983 keep on rocking!
@StripedJacket
@StripedJacket Жыл бұрын
Coming back to this, what about basically warming up at first. Since the test is repeated wouldn’t they be basically “warming up” during 60 and be more acclimated each jump as well?
@verzure
@verzure 4 жыл бұрын
Linus: "I'm going to be as tricky as I can!" **pops up in dead center**
@kushshah4554
@kushshah4554 4 жыл бұрын
That was the joke...
@seif6910
@seif6910 4 жыл бұрын
DOES LIGHTER MICE MAKE YOU A BETTER GAMER???
@sthlcrx
@sthlcrx 4 жыл бұрын
@@seif6910 Better English does.
@Pain-qs7lx
@Pain-qs7lx 4 жыл бұрын
@@sthlcrx why did you have to do him like that lmaooooo
@pk-ss7ms
@pk-ss7ms 4 жыл бұрын
He does not want shroud to be embarrassed. Plus, in the real game reflection is only one of many skills.
@MrAgmoore
@MrAgmoore 4 жыл бұрын
Summary: 240 Hz makes you transcend time and space.
@C3lloman
@C3lloman 4 жыл бұрын
240 FPS more precisely, it seems Hz thing was the minor factor here.
@charliek9394
@charliek9394 4 жыл бұрын
@@C3lloman what? the fps just helps the input lag, the hz helps your eyes see what they should see. 240hz 8k golden mantra when?
@goodtimesgofast22
@goodtimesgofast22 4 жыл бұрын
@@C3lloman to clarify, every test they did had 60fps on a 60Hz monitor, 144fps on a 144hz monitor etc. if you are playing a game at 240fps on a 60Hz monitor all you're seeing is 60fps physically
@C3lloman
@C3lloman 4 жыл бұрын
@@goodtimesgofast22 No watch towards the end. They did one test with 300 FPS @ 60 Hz compared to 60 FPS @ 60 Hz and the result with 300 FPS was much better. So the bottom line is, you should first make sure your GPU outputs high FPS and only then consider monitor upgrade.
@ComeRestusFX
@ComeRestusFX 4 жыл бұрын
@@C3lloman I have no clue how this happens. We all saw the same video, and yet only 1 out of 4 people understood what was shown. FPS is absolutely the most important thing throughout all tests, as shown by Shroud on 300 FPS 60 Hz Double Doors.
@solidsteak02
@solidsteak02 2 жыл бұрын
you should do that on versus fighting players (Street Fighter, Tekken...) this was awesome!
@neoncode6295
@neoncode6295 4 ай бұрын
Interesting results. I play Distance (car parkour game) with a 60 FPS cap to save power (60 Hz monitor), but seeing the results setting it to uncapped might save me in a few tight situations because of the lower input lag.
@ArkayeCh
@ArkayeCh 3 жыл бұрын
Shroud accidentally reveals himself to be a gaming mutant who operates on coffee.
@timstricker9140
@timstricker9140 3 жыл бұрын
He even has/had his own coffee
@Reverse_Goat
@Reverse_Goat 3 жыл бұрын
@@timstricker9140 he handed
@johnnyson7474
@johnnyson7474 3 жыл бұрын
Coffee does make you focus. I see him drink coffee when he streams. Maybe that's the secret it's not wonder why he was slow on this video because he didn't get coffee.
@xxxincogni2804
@xxxincogni2804 3 жыл бұрын
Caffeine bru caffeine
@Ometen
@Ometen 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyson7474 I bet that atleast 60% of all competitive players (professional and amateurs alike) are addicted to caffeine.
@TacticusPrime
@TacticusPrime 4 жыл бұрын
This must have taken a ton of work to put together. Congrats guys.
@MilosCsrb
@MilosCsrb 4 жыл бұрын
Its called job, it is their job and they make lots of money
@ragecrezztv9769
@ragecrezztv9769 4 жыл бұрын
@@MilosCsrb They still put much effort into it? What do you wanna say now lmao
@shadowflash0
@shadowflash0 4 жыл бұрын
@@MilosCsrb Something being a job does not mitigate the fact that a lot of work went into it.
@Emiichoco
@Emiichoco 4 жыл бұрын
@@MilosCsrb what does your comment have to do with what he said?
@risingstar1309
@risingstar1309 2 жыл бұрын
This was SO interesting. I never put any thoughts into the FPS vs Hz. I’ve USUALLY capped my FPS at 70-80 with my 60hz monitor just to make sure… something? Lol. But maybe I’ll try capping at 120 or something
@-LucidDreamer-
@-LucidDreamer- 2 жыл бұрын
..... 60 Hz means you can't see past 60 fps
@invertedsmile7258
@invertedsmile7258 Жыл бұрын
@@-LucidDreamer- u dont understand. Yes the monitor produces 60 fps at the highest but it needs to get the frames at the right time. So there could be missed some frames which means higher framerates increase the probability of gettin the frames when refreshing the monitor
@-LucidDreamer-
@-LucidDreamer- Жыл бұрын
@@invertedsmile7258 I mean, I have a 5000$ PC I built myself, with a massive custom liquid cooling loop. I also have very good peripherals, monitor included. I know a lot about software too and how to get around a computer. I've never heard of that in my life.
@manuelsputnik
@manuelsputnik Жыл бұрын
@@-LucidDreamer- maybe you should watch the conclusions of the video again and look at Shroud's scores at 60fps/Hz, 300fps/60Hz, and 144fps/Hz. It was CLEARLY apparent that his avg hits on target were tenfold with higher framerates on the same refresh rate. edit: timestamp 31:48
@youju26
@youju26 Жыл бұрын
@@manuelsputnik Yes wanted to say the same
@xxCrimsonSpiritxx
@xxCrimsonSpiritxx 2 жыл бұрын
Answer is: if you're used to the setup/game, high FPS doesn't make a huge diff, if you're not, the higher FPS will help significantly, one thing we all agree on, 60 to 144 is noticeable, not that much from 144 to 240 though
@rorus9530
@rorus9530 3 жыл бұрын
Since upgrading from 60 FPS to 144, my kd on cod has shot up from 0.41 to 0.48. I think I’m ready to burst onto the pro scene.
@ronniewest87
@ronniewest87 3 жыл бұрын
My k/d has been over 1.00 my last 10 games. I'm a lot smoother in my movements and setting the sensitivity up to 7 increases my response time. Purchased an HP 24Xi monitor that outputs 144hz at 1080p. I'm happy with my purchase.
@toxic_constituents5859
@toxic_constituents5859 3 жыл бұрын
My kd is 1.63 on console, imma switch to 240 fps next month
@itz_yeastic
@itz_yeastic 3 жыл бұрын
🌚🙏
@No-cc1fq
@No-cc1fq 3 жыл бұрын
Wow imma upgrade to 300hz
@theisgood0
@theisgood0 3 жыл бұрын
Lol it will be another few years till I have 240hz then 360hz will be the standard :/
@penguin5096
@penguin5096 4 жыл бұрын
"We got some twitch streamers" Shroud: ...
@bryanlagunes2078
@bryanlagunes2078 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@theeffortless5554
@theeffortless5554 4 жыл бұрын
Lmaoo i didnt realise this🤣
@evadcarz978
@evadcarz978 4 жыл бұрын
Mixer 😂😂
@sanjaykadam-on6wx
@sanjaykadam-on6wx 4 жыл бұрын
Mixer...lol
@Lucifye
@Lucifye 4 жыл бұрын
Also an ex pro player which is funny
@rawsnake
@rawsnake 2 жыл бұрын
I didnt watch the whole video but for me going from a 60 Hz to a 144 sure was a big change. Now im curious if adaptive sync on/off would also make a difference
@aldal2446
@aldal2446 2 жыл бұрын
adaptive sync is less input lag than sync but it does add additional input lag so you should not use it in FPS
@glcitrus
@glcitrus 9 ай бұрын
I have an old CPU (4790k) and a 3080. What happens when you have this combination is that you have a consistent 144FPS/HZ on still frames or low action areas, however, when there's a lot going on the frames fluctuates jumping from 144 to 90 to 75 then back to 144 frames. I would like to see an experiment on that since I bet a lot of people are still running on older CPUs.
@Sn4p_Fps
@Sn4p_Fps 6 ай бұрын
You losing 50% or more of the performance whit that cpu
@DownForceSimRacing
@DownForceSimRacing 2 ай бұрын
Lol talk about a bottleneck. No solution but upgrading the cpu
@RyanZNO
@RyanZNO 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm going to be as trixy as I can..." *pops up directly in the center of the scope*
@moorsyclimbing
@moorsyclimbing 4 жыл бұрын
and the problem with that is he directly influenced the test because dead centre definitely makes it more likely for the high FPS one to take it. Shame.
@rotaryking100
@rotaryking100 4 жыл бұрын
@@moorsyclimbing thats the idea of that test though. reaction based on the hertz of the monitor.
@rocksparadox
@rocksparadox 4 жыл бұрын
@@rotaryking100 You missed blitheringbrooks point, pewdiecancer fantard. The choice of the player makes the outcome of the test biased, even if higher fps is better. Don't use 'though'' the term 'though'' when there is 'though'' NO CONTRADICTION IN THE SENTENCE ''though''.
@rotaryking100
@rotaryking100 4 жыл бұрын
@@rocksparadox you missed my point. Though, Linus decided to pop up in the middle the test was to prove which player had the best reaction time with the equipment provided, it's not necessarily a skill based test. You must be fun at parties Also you're incorrect 'though' can be used at the end of a sentence in place of the word regardless Lastly calling me a fantard because of who I'm subbed to is extremely childish. Especially when it has nothing to do with the video. You literally went out of your way to see if I was subbed to PewDiePie lol
@malalliance6622
@malalliance6622 4 жыл бұрын
@@rocksparadox You must be fun at parties x2
@weird_ow4736
@weird_ow4736 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about Corey. On his previous teams, other teams refused to scrim them because they thought Corey was aimbotting. Corey became known as cocaine aim Corey.
@bikeraceo
@bikeraceo 4 жыл бұрын
True
@lPelado
@lPelado 4 жыл бұрын
W8. Why cocaine?
@janisir4529
@janisir4529 4 жыл бұрын
@@lPelado Adderall was already an Overwatch/Twitch meme for somebody else.
@natanel8962
@natanel8962 4 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget about the time when he singlehandedly rolled and smoke ltt hometown team and number 1 seed Vancouver Titans
@weird_ow4736
@weird_ow4736 4 жыл бұрын
@@natanel8962 Just Corey things.
@M30A
@M30A 2 жыл бұрын
When BO2 came out on console, shield to shotgun switch in a blank of an eye made it difficult to track. PC on the other hand, you’re able to see them switch at a slower pace 60 frames and over.
@dantheman1337
@dantheman1337 6 ай бұрын
Back when I used to play competitively I used to use a 19 inch crt monitor at 640 X 480 at 200hz with ps2 mouse rate of 200hz. The difference over 60hz was incredible. I stopped playing when LCD screens took over, not realising I should have kept the crt
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