Does Insomniac's Web Swinging Need "Fixing"?

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So, over the past week we’ve been seeing a lot of new gameplay information for Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 as we lead up to its release. There was a new trailer showing off the open world, and journalists have been getting their hands on a demo of the game and sharing their thoughts.
And with this information sparked some discourse over the game’s web swinging and whether or not it’s enough of an "improvement" over the original. The core mechanics of it all, specifically the physics and the “floatiness”, don’t seem to be hugely fundamentally different from the previous titles. Some people see this as a positive, but some just absolutely hate it and say that it’s just "glorified DLC", that they spent too much time adding new traversal mechanics instead of “fixing” what they had before.
But, does Insomniac’s web swinging need to be… fixed? And what are some of the ways that that complexity could be brought in without fundamentally reworking what they’ve built?
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0:00 - Intro
0:49 - Glasses USA
2:03 - Announcement
2:13 - Swinging in Spider-Man Games
3:38 - Insomniac's Style of Swinging
6:07 - Fall Damage
7:21 - The "Solution"
9:25 - Why I Don’t Care
10:43 - What Actually Needs “Fixing”
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[@yash_kapoor]

It’s web swinging and if anyone else says otherwise they’re not real Spider-Man fans

[@troyoboyo17]

You understand me

[@Sengial]

Web slinging for actually shooting it, web swinging if you are swinging

[@Logan_Irrelevant]

@@Sengialthis, right here.

[@WHY-FHY]

Yup

[@Exzimius]

We're gatekeeping Spider-Man now.

[@chrisj.3290]

In my opinion, as long as Insomniac keeps adding more ways to move around the city in a fun, engaging way with polished animations, as well as improved parkour and wall crawling, we'll be alright

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

Yeah and they did so we good

[@Mcjesus97]

So your good with the basic shit swinging from the first game ? Jesus I can tell your too young to never play 2004

[@AgentMarcx]

I'm definitely of the "I don't care too much because it's just fun" camp. While playing through both of the Insomniac Spider-Man games, I'd sometimes just webswing aimlessly throughout the city because it was just fun to do.

[@The-Legend-of-P]

I did the same amd then I played for so long I noticed all the flaws and feel like the stuff that is broken should be fixed. I think most of it is fixed but we’ll see!

[@MahNamJeff]

@@The-Legend-of-P I myself was in a similar camp until i started trying out some stuff like air dodges and stuff. Moving to miles morales also helped tremendously for a bit due to the web swinging changes they’d made but i don’t really like the enemy types as much as the first games so combat feels less engaging there.

[@The-Legend-of-P]

@@MahNamJeff yeah the air dodges help w/ movement and the fastest movement you can do in MM is swing low to the ground and just spam air dodge with X and swing and you end up hitting a speed cap/wall Oh and the enemy types did seem a lot worse. Idk if they did that on purpose but I think the issues is the power creep. We see Miles have the venom which is kinda busted af inMM. Like every enemy is insta knocked out and I didn’t really like it. I forced myself not to use the venom because every enemy can be taken down or stunned with a jump, ground pound or dash. Kinda took the fun outta combat for me. Also they had like 2 “new” enemies. The whip ones were fun, but the shield dude immediately got cancelled out with the Venom dash. It doesn’t seem like SM2 fixed the OP abilities but they did give us more variety! I hope they add adaptive enemies as well so the same moves we did in the beginning don’t work. Like they shield themselves from webs or stop you from dodging under their legs

[@ramonromualdo4167]

It's fun for like 2 minutes then pass that you start noticing how goddamn repetitive the gameplay is

[@The-Legend-of-P]

@@ramonromualdo4167 true! SM2 seems to fix that

[@BTBSOUNDS]

Ive read about this setting theyve added in the game where the game doesnt automatically steer you so youre moving forward and rather are more affected by the sideways motion. I think that alone being a setting is gonna be amazing depending on the degree to which it's implemented Plus it shows that the physics are there, Insomniac's just been handholding us thru them slightly which i appreciate being a setting we can turn off

[@busdriverguy]

The handholding is my biggest issue personally. Im hoping this one's a bit different.

[@BTBSOUNDS]

@@busdriverguy the handholding is more than understandable when you see the GDC video of the insomniac dev talking about the hidden stuff they do behind the scenes. The auto centring was one of the things tho that I, as someone who grew up with Ultimate Spider-Man on PS2, can see why people would like to be able to turn off

[@rhinuu045]

yay thats good

[@busdriverguy]

@@BTBSOUNDS handholding is done so everyone can play. It hinders the people that want more out of their experience

[@danieleanzaldi]

@@BTBSOUNDS yeah it looked and felt much better with actual centripetal force at play during the swing arc hopefully they bring it back at least for the steering toggle (still not sure what this feature it actually is)

[@teeyupp]

i really like insomniac's swinging but it makes sense to want even more customization with how you get to swing around the city. even a change like adding a bit of quick decision making by letting the left trigger swing with ur left hand and the right trigger to swing from the right would add a ton of silly traversal mechanics and make quick turns better and more challenging swinging imo

[@whosafer]

Literally if we could swing using both triggers it would be a hell of a difference

[@Bugplanet8840]

@@whosafertasm 2 and spider-man 3 wii version had that feature

[@shawnwilcowski]

@@kingkami1739just not true bruh….

[@whosafer]

@@kingkami1739 yea and I feel like it’s one of the features that should come back at least as an option you can toggle on an off I feel like it would make me more engaged and feel like spidey more and yea he swings from both his hand but he initially shoots his web from either his left hand or his right hand but hey it’s my opinion agree to disagree

[@atharvavadeyar5157]

release the raw footage of you talking about "swinging" vs "slinging"

[@troyoboyo17]

That’s a Patreon exclusive baby

[@CinemaShrimp]

Sheesh Insomniac Games are already turned into LITERAL insomniacs trying to give fans everything they’ve asked for and more. And now they want the swinging to be “fixed”? I think it’s great already, and with the addition of web wings, we have so much to look forward to as far as traversal goes. Why can’t the fans just be happy 😭

[@elk7050]

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[@kaponosucks]

Yeah people are never satisfied idk what more they want honestly cuz i got everything i wanted

[@mdeezqwe]

Because there’s nothing really to be wowed about. The games isn’t that much different then the other ones. They added some stuff and there’s also things they say they’ve added they we haven’t seen yet. The game just looks like a great movie. A lot of the same mechanics we’ve already seen

[@The-Legend-of-P]

Web wings are glorified gliding man. I don’t wanna play Just Cause or Arkham gliding, it’s Spider-Man. Adding mechanics that are purely for cinematic without changing the small issues is kinda annoying. Like polish what you already made, don’t add new stuff if the old stuff is still broken Ik momentum is fixed but if they only add 3 new mechanics then that’s kinda dumb

[@JRLSpiderman]

@@The-Legend-of-Pthe old stuff ain’t broken, thats why they aren’t heavily changing it

[@Robin0928]

Honestly, hearing "top speed is 3x faster than ps4" was all i needed to hear to be in. I love the insomniac swinging, but it still felt a little too slow (still fine for the size of the map, but i love going fast in games)

[@lory6988]

They confirmed there will be accessibility options for swinging, in order to make easier (which is by default ) or harder. I'm honestly hyped!

[@eudaimonia2998]

I unironically loved that sponsor transition

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[@thewhitehatprod]

im gonna say it….😈

[@dibsdibs3495]

Spider-Boy channel.

[@OJB437]

DONT YOU SAY IT

[@sonicsega6]

Arachnid-Guy content creator

[@Iamtheknownman]

Spider-man Channel.

[@Truekingr6]

I use the HD graphics texture pack for GameCube and spiderman 2 has legitimately kept me entertained for over 15 years. The swinging is perfection. The way you can combo into wall running jumping. A second web line. I enjoy spiderman PS4 because I know I can always go back to spiderman 2

[@Sengial]

IMO a little yeah. It would be cool to have a little more physics stuff like: - Make momentum transfer properly if falling from tall heights - Make you crash if you swing too close to the floor

[@Speed74927]

I think the first one has a chance of happening

[@The-Legend-of-P]

@@Speed74927they said momentum is faster and more transferable

[@QariMurKalot]

the last one is stupid

[@rockkiller124]

We absolutely don't need the last one, it will ruin the flow of the game

[@twobrosincorporated]

I always loved Insomniac’s take on swinging, but I thought it needed improvement. Now, Spider-Man 2 is showing real momentum, new mechanics, and quality of life features like loop-de-loops, tight turns, and surfing on water. I appreciate finding a channel like yours, what a great Spider-Man cha-

[@TheEmperorRaidou]

ur still floating in the air when ur near the ground

[@abdullahjawad5785]

​@@TheEmperorRaidou not if u turn swing assist to 0

[@grav3yardshawty]

i think the best way to “fix” insomniacs swinging is to at least give wall running its own button, and put things like touching the ground while swinging into the game as baked in animations for if your swing reaches a certain low point

[@seem_okay_studio]

I love the idea of having a "Why I don't care" section for videos like this. It just lets the floor fall away for any illusion of toxicity.

[@kmr147]

My main big problem is the magnetic force field that forces Spider-Man not to touch the floor, even if there is no fall damage, at least let him run on the floor that would look so cool…and maybe climb his own web (he does it in mods)

[@MILOPETIT]

The important thing is that they use the web swinging more in missions. So far it's always about beating people up

[@Pierceson-up8fs]

No, it doesn’t need fixing, but as someone that played Web of Shadows for the first time after playing the ps4 game, I can say with confidence that swinging in that game feels a lot more fun to me. Insoniacs is still good and I enjoy playing around with it, but I would prefer if they moved towards a more web of shadows type of design for swinging. Of course, that’s only a small part of a bigger game, and the swinging doesn’t “need” to be fixed when it’s fun enough and the rest of the game is also amazingly made. It’s just a preference

[@literallymalware]

If the swinging felt just a little less floaty and a little more swingy (like proper pendulum physics) and allowed you to gain speed easier, then it woulf be perfect

[@defnotkevin]

I haven't played a new video game in like a decade but I keep watching your videos on the Spider-Man games because you always put in a great twist about something more at the end

[@nathancarter8239]

I'm glad you mentioned _Spider-Man: Web of Shadows_ because the designers were quite confident in their web-slinging vision. There's an achievement in the game that you get for using the special web mechanic that slams you into enemies and using it repeatedly in a row, which I got without knowing it existed because the slinging mechanic was so fun. Anyway, workers together strong! Strike for your rights!

[@grahpayy]

if there’s one thing i think needs fixing, it’s the way web swinging and on-foot traversal flow together. when you go from swinging to simply running on the ground, it feels like the momentum you had is being completely interrupted, so i hope that’s fixed to make traversal much smoother. also wall traversal definitely needs improvement since it feels very restrictive at the moment

[@doclouis4236]

The problem stems from the fact that the web swinging is very automated and you can't go faster like in Spider-man 2, not to mention the fun of web swinging in old Spider-man games comes from how dangerous it can be to swing at fast speeds and being high up. When you fall and hit the ground, that's game over or either you take damage from a tall height. Web Swinging in older Spider-man games felt like a sport of some sort with the racing challenges and the specific tricks you had to pull off in order to get a gold rank.

[@zzirfamo24]

You can choose what building you want to swing from in Miles & Spiderman 2018….. your web shoots to the nearest building so just take Peter near the closest building and that’s the one he will swing from!! But I would just like for them to add vibration for the high speeds while gliding and diving, also add resistance and vibration to the triggers so we can really feel the weight and add that immersion for swinging. Other than that I think it’s great!!

[@Mcjesus97]

That’s in every Spider-Man game … it was weak , 2004 was actually skill , can tell your 7 years old

[@zzirfamo24]

@@Mcjesus97 I never said it wasn’t 💀lmfao…. Clearly you have the reading level of a 2nd grader so learn how to read before commenting kid!!

[@TheEmperorRaidou]

​@@Mcjesus97fr. i can argue WOS having better swinging than ps4

[@OrdinaryGatez]

I saw a comment a while ago that suggested the web slinging should take an approach similar to the Tony Hawk skater games Essentially skating by itself was easy but there was a giant skill ceiling that could be explored by using tricks and gaining speed while still trying to keep up the combo meter and not wipe out. So something similar with web slinging could be attempted where it would have deeper mechanics to really test how well the user is able to keep momentum instead of the training wheels feel that the game have currently. I’m a fan of the web slinging in miles morales especially but I thought this was an interesting concept brought about.

[@thisbubblygoodness7611]

this, this is what I've been saying, Spider-man's webswinging is essentially like the super-hero version of skateboarding, you summed it up with having a high skill ceiling that's actually fun to explore and master, it just adds that variety to the movement, not sure why some people shun the idea acting like new players couldn't get into it either way, Insomniac's sequel is shaping up to look fun as hell, i'm all for their choices so far

[@c.a.k.comedy692]

For me after playing Spider-Man 2 and hitting the ground a lot while swinging, I can see why insomniac added some of the floaty- feeling web swinging where u can’t really touch the ground and end your swing streak. I feel like we just need a balance of being able to dive, gain speed, and swing super fast while not easily being able to swing straight into the ground and end your swing I also want to sling 2 webs at once that’s something I feel like was such a downgrade since 2004

[@DatPRGuy2017]

But in Web of Shadows and Spider-Man 3 you could swing on the ground and even on the side of walls without losing momentum

[@IanWhitesel]

That was a better segue to the ad read than most KZbinrs would even care to think of well done🤣

[@TrllyToys]

I mean, i think it would be handy to choose which direction the web goes. Like if youre tilting the thumbstick to the left then the web attaches to a building towards the left. If you tilt towards the right then it goes to the right. That way when youre swinging around a building it grabs on to the one you would naturally wanna swing towards/off of to help keep your momentum. I dont think this would add an incredible amount but just that much more control would help enough to help you get across the city in your own way. It could make chases a little more fun and a little bit less annoying.

[@gentlesnot1864]

I gotta say the structure of this video is cool. I like how he familiarized us and then got into it

[@GT_Mr.C]

having a little more control of where the webs go would be nice like the in the og spiderman 2 game but other than that it’s pretty solid

[@MirageUchiha]

You remind me of RyeToast. The cadence, similar background, the full in-depth videos, the sign in the background, the style and comedy into ads, etc. Haha 😆 I digg your vids man!

[@seujroge]

I like how the second they posted this video, Insomniac confirmed there was an option for physics based web swinging

[@troyoboyo17]

I have literally the worst luck on the planet call me Peter Parker I guess

[@jeebusbhrist2096]

On a real note. I fucking love your speech at the end and how you put it.

[@howardbell2304]

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[@ar7hur06]

Hey man, appreciate the AI section at the end. That's an actual real issue and fear that even people I know have, and knowing Insomniac and their good working practice, I know they'll do the right thing.

[@randomboi151]

I couldn't care less for the safe fails mechanics tbh. I'd like them to be addressed, sure. But with the web wings, Sling shot mechanic and much more new improvements I am more than pleased.

[@Satellaview1889]

"Unregulated AI has zero place in big-budget entertainment." Thank you. I've been trying to put this thought into words for so long. I believe that AI has a place in the creative process, especially for smaller creators like myself to whom AI offers a lot of new avenues for producing art. But major groups need to be held accountable to make sure they use it ethically. AI can do a lot of harm if not properly regulated, so we need to make sure that doesn't happen and that it's used properly.

[@twiklexic]

web swinging is the actual act of swinging, like how the words are, whereas web SLINGING is the general idea of shooting webs. he slings webs at bad guys when he webs them up. he slings webs when he catches a helicopter that’s falling from the sky, he slings a web when he’s about to swing off it, and then he swings from his webs, ie slinging webs is just the action of shooting webs, where as swinging is swinging

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[@TheAlphaTeamPlays]

I think they should add some stuff to allow the player to be even more flashy while web-swinging while keeping the fundamentals the same. Imagine if certain structures would allow you to do a Mortal-Kombat-esqe series of button inputs that initiates a cool scripted parkour sequence through a small area, or you apply that principle to when you start fighting a crime, allowing you to do some kind of crazy loop-de-loop swing kick thing that takes out a thug before the regular combat begins (something like how Spider-Man saves the Fisk guy while kicking the Demon in the construction site mission in the 2018 game, except you can do it anywhere with the right input). None of it is necessary, but it rewards skilled players by having Spidey reflect those skills.

[@joebutton7475]

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[@X08-Chill]

I think Insomniac's webswinging is the best we've had but it can still be improved and adapted to include the strengths that some past games have had

[@invisiblefan2387]

I love the web swinging in the first game however, the one thing that I wanted was more precise turns to control which way you were going in mid air. I was just struggling with the taskmaster challenges.

[@DeadManTalking.]

If I had to change the way web swinging works in the game, then I would make the right thumbstick act as Spider-Man's eyes. The reason for this is that the player will have to look at where the web connects to a building when moving around the city

[@Geek_Speak_Gaming]

I will say there should be a setting for the swinging, just like in some games, most recently SF6, where there's the normal web-swinging, and then if you change the setting it's advanced so you have to aim, etc.

[@Chilick]

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[@Chilick]

Also, the only thing I would like is the ability to run on the ground while web swinging and run down walls

[@Peasham]

My only problem with this swinging was back in the day when people acted like it was more realistic than Spiderman 2 swinging despite it.. not being so. Which isn't a problem with the swinging itself, but damn, some peeps were annoying lol

[@FadeAwayGab]

Every night that me and my friends talk on discord when i want to actually focus on the conversation i tend to open up miles morales and just swing around, its so comforting and soothing to do so

[@Sebboebbo]

Da king is back baby he neva miss

[@JackTal0s]

It doesn't need fixing, just an improvement, which is exactly what they did it seems.

[@SadikiStGeorgeangemon44]

There’s so much more new info about the web slinging now

[@sentry3019]

I just think they gotta expand it, let us do some crazy shit that Spider-Man can do and my only real problem is that the swinging is too automated and most of the time I could play it with one hand

[@tacoface6029]

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[@yungblade7]

I'd really like them to include some type of speed boost tokens or maybe a motion blur toggle in the menu to give a more of a "high speed" feel.

[@SpeedDemon55]

I love the swinging from the first two games. I think Miles improved on the swinging so much because I think the first games animations were a little bit stiff. However Miles swinging animations are way better and more stylish. It looks like Marvels Spider-Man 2 will be even better in terms of web swinging combat and if Miles is in the game a lot story.

[@jojyoyo]

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[@InfamousTerry4]

I honestly feel like its kind of both where there def can be some improvements (people forget the jump in web swinging that was made from 2018-miles morales), but I also genuinely feel that people don't want insomniac to have their own style of doing things. Like everyone just wants insomniac to be the spider-man games of the past. Like they want everything to be done exactly like web of shadows, or classic spider-man 2. People act like there's no creative freedom in insomniac spider-man's version, but if you've seen some of the vids people have posted about the web swinging, and there gameplays of it, you can def tell thats not true.

[@hopefullyanonymous3466]

Not true, people love what insomniac has done for their system, it’s just that there is a core thing missing that has nothing to do with older games and everything to do with what is the best mechanic that feels right.

[@InfamousTerry4]

@@hopefullyanonymous3466 no, most people love insomniacs system, but there’s is objectively a very loud group of people that hate the system and basically want them to rework the whole thing

[@goofbawll]

taking the webzip reticle and just adding onto the normal trigger swinging would be a welcome togglable setting

[@paradox4780]

The TASM tie in game assigned swinging from your left or right hands to the left and right triggers. A system like that for an alternative control scheme would be neat.

[@FPSKole]

I LOVE that we can change the swinging to be more realistic in the new game

[@leonardo0two]

My favorite spiderman channel is back!

[@spacewizard6743]

It was really cool watching view counter go up in real time as i watched this

[@ZacharyAllen-Thierry]

If you put the playback speed at 0.25, you can hear a bit of the web swinging/slinging discussion 0:42 🖐🥹

[@Speed74927]

Honestly I’m just hyped that we can do loop de loops

[@seliteguitarist3664]

I think they just need to have a toggle to turn off the hand holding and let people truly master it. Running if swinging too close to the ground and building crashing if youre too fast would also be a welcome addition for me. Alot like Mario Kart on the switch, where you can turn off the game trying to keep you in the center.

[@crocblock2]

I think it’d be cool to see more versatility in the web tricks and the small mechanics they’ve talked about upgraded sound good enough for me. New animations would’ve been nice but the old ones aren’t broken by any means.

[@itscinders6418]

Nice controller my man👍

[@jacobcenter7374]

There's also been news about a "steering assist" option for webs winging. We don't have any details but it seems pretty self explanatory

[@myherobeaste7]

more interaction with the world and swing like running on the ground like spider verse and yes advanced swinging as an option (not add an fall damage option bc that’s not advanced that’s putting a bandage but it’s a start) but it’s all I have to say

[@The-Legend-of-P]

Dub pfp btw! But what would your advanced option for swinging look like? I’m curious

[@myherobeaste7]

@@The-Legend-of-Phigh speed with risks. The new feature with the hard turn should be be rewarded with the speed but if you choose the wrong building and do it then splat against the wall

[@The-Legend-of-P]

ooo Idlike that! I would likethere to be aboost of speedwhen swining. like perfect trick boosts, or just hold L2 to speed up ur swing. @@myherobeaste7

[@Mastadonson]

Bro snuck in some class struggle there at the end

[@littleniba6153]

always a great day when my favorite spider-man channel uploads!!1!

[@treyeblackfield4863]

I like the web swinging but it does get a tad boring. I would add in a momentum system meter where if you hold the trigger you'll swing at a normal easy pace but if you wait and time it, the meter builds and you can hit a sweet spot for extra speed. This would be great in chase sequences too. I'd also add that the reticle that aims where your web attaches too can be moved. So holding r2 would be automatic but if you waited, moved the reticle to a different building, it could increase your speed or decrease it if you picked a bad spot or if you wanted to stop and hang. The height of the building could be a factor too. If you shoot a web to a building at eye level, you could pull yourself in like a missile. Buildings that are above you could make your downward dip longer and closer to the ground but if you time it right you'll shoot back into the air. This could all be done with same r2 swinging but giving the player the freedom to time their swings and that effects what spider-man does.

[@jimmy1232ya]

I would love a video going more into the various strikes and you're opinion on them. A deeper opinion past the fact that of course the people on strike deserve what they are asking for lol.

[@1nsertusername743]

I personally feel that web slinging is the act shooting a web, web swinging is the act of. . . swinging. Spiderman web slung from one building to the other. Spiderman is web swinging to the other building.

[@fredster3124]

this is my favorite spider-man channel

[@thebalzan9475]

You get a like for bringing up the strikes.

[@andrewparker5191]

James Stevenson said on twitter the other day, that there is gonna be a web swinging assist you can turn off in the accessibility settings

[@TerrorOnElmSt]

Combining the physics of spiderman 2 the movie games web swinging and Fortnite’s web swinging would probably be really fun

[@austinsavage5962]

Insomniac has always been the company that says “if its not broke polish it until its shiny at least”

[@LumbagoV1ct1im247]

Troy i love you!

[@spiderdoctor2269]

I would welcome these changes, honestly This is probably gonna be what gets the thousand swords pointed at me, but the swinging in this game has always been like the climbing in Assasain's Creed where you just press a button and move the joystick forward. So game mechanics that give the player more agency might be more engaging

[@Thatoneblackguyy23]

I'm playing it real quick

[@The_Bug0222]

“Fix” is such a strong word. Built-upon. The structure is there. Just add stuff. Like the ability to climb web lines, run along walls while holding a web-line and/or interact with cars or the ground if you swing too low (maybe with a well-timed tap of Square AKA the trick button?), charge your jump off a web-swing. All these things were incorporated into games almost 20 years ago. There’s no reason they should be omitted from a game releasing 3 console generations later 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@liquidniteofficial]

i really think it would be cool if more web slinging variety was unlocked throughout the game with skills or be a setting like a cinematic mode for ppl who just enjoy the feeling of swinging itself and love not having to do anything complicated and then a "input" mode that allows ppl who actually care abt the more hands-on side of it

[@PrettyboyAshtun]

i don’t want them to hold my hand if i time the swing wrong let me fail

[@masonyoung7834]

I personally think insomniacs web swing is the best I’d much rather have the cinematic, fluid swinging then the hard to learn and off looking swinging from Spider-man 2 (2002)

[@user-nv9vn8fm1d]

It's boring. Like flying with a veneer of web swinging. I wish it was optional

[@The-Legend-of-P]

They could and should have both

[@masonyoung7834]

@@The-Legend-of-P I never said it shouldn’t

[@hopefullyanonymous3466]

Cinematic is fine, but it still needs to be “gameplay” not “press a button to watch a movie” lol

[@The-Legend-of-P]

@@masonyoung7834 me too 😳

[@evanbelisle8464]

For Batman I want a button I have to hold down that makes him dwell on his parents while I’m in combat.

[@Aiden_Person2217]

Troyoboyo? More like amazing youtuber

[@christionpulliam9870]

The most simple thing we need is more interaction with the world you should be able to control how high or low on the web swinging and u should be able to run on the road like miles in into the soiderverse while swinging gotta lost that hit box that keeps us above the street more immersion and more energy

[@mozairo9006]

I think the fact they added fall damage as an option fixed their biggest problem and will give ppl a higher skill ceiling

[@busdriverguy]

It doesnt need "fixing" there just needs to be a better mechanics for people that like complicated gameplay. My 6 year old niece is great at webswinging. And thats cool. But thats not how easy I want it to be. But that's just me.

[@guyver1215]

U can kinda aim your webs in spiderman ps4 and remastered or not its up to you. Left or right will connect to the building of choice.

[@teneesh3376]

Like the best AC parkour, it's flashy but boring when doing it casually. It requires next to no thought to get to point A to be. Now, when you do get a little bit more in-depth, it does get a little bit more fun. But also, why would you other than because you can. Honestly, all I want it a climb button. That's it. That's the bare minimum thing I want. That added addition would make it fun for me. But I do want the way it is to be optional. Let me toggle the auto climb on or off in the options menu

[@Wookie_Lover77]

just wanna let you know that you’re my favorite Spider Man Channel

[@Vic4vendetta]

why would the swinging need changing?

[@Rigbones.]

Love it, best kind of content. contsructive

[@sebastianmaregatti]

About time a Spider-Man channel made another video about Spidey