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[@RhettShull]

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[@einarabelc5]

We also switched to a humbucker and this is how you keep a debate alive.

[@damianvila]

The guitar at 5:07 is the "Austral Guitar" model by my brother Diego Vila. He's a great luthier. That guitar will stay at Walt Grace Vintage, in Miami, Florida until it finds a definitive home. I'm glad you liked it! I actually love that model, and think it’s one of the best he's done.

[@RhettShull]

Very cool! I really dig that guitar

[@Dude_Slick]

Not a fan at all of that kinda reverse Thunderbird style. That price tag is quite high. It is more than twice what I get for my handcrafted semi-hollows at $1,200 steemitimages.com/p/JvFFVmatwWHVQPjDcGkFxELgGtwNAntRtiqDuEyxrKkp8Ln5FpZxJy1q2jRAhu7keBwKwquHYP7xm1LG5JEtg8VBT6EFc3eoMTow24w36zqjFrWWxq25CrMu7TkFDfsfGTa1zR9KTU?format=match&mode=fit Not bashing the guitar in question, it's nice, but not my cup of tea.

[@javiervalles9782]

Plays guitar that can do A/B of tone woods. Switches pickups at the same time.

[@basscasey1]

There are so many variations in configs though. Plus, they did leave the two bottom pickups the same so he could use the selector switch to go back and forth.

[@ROOKTABULA]

Unless you're playing acoustic, tone wood is marketing bullshit in electric guitars

[@carlmclean9304]

Bullshit I have 2 LP Style guitars both with the same set of pickups, same string gauge and brand in them but one is a mahogany body with maple top, Mahogany neck and the other a fully alder body and neck (both neck through construction as well) And the Difference in TONE is night and day, Do an A/B test like this yourself and you can't miss it (Unless your DEAF)

[@Speedojesus]

Carl McLean Except there are plenty of A/B b;ind tests out there, and most show that woods have a very small, if not negligible effect on the actual tone. Most of it's just complete placebo. You also have the fact that different trees are different ages, different compositions, grew differently, have a different grain. All of that. If you were to be correct, two Mahogany and Maple cap Les Pauls, or two basswood Ibanez guitars should sound different to each other as well. Which brings me to woods like basswood. What's supposed to be the absolute worst tone-wood in the world is considered by people like Steve Vai the best. Showing that even with the same wood there's no actual conclusions on what it does. I'd honestly have more faith in tone-fret metal than tone-wood. And are you sure you're not letting on more than what you're saying? What are the other differences between these guitars? What years are they from?

[@tomrabbani]

@@carlmclean9304 depends how hard you listen. for a working musician like me I'd rather save my money for things my audience will actually hear.

[@LochNessAnthony]

Hearing the guy trying to sell the tone wood bars idea is like listening to someone trying to sell magic beans

[@papofresquito8533]

I like it, actually there's a lot of thought & engineering in that, and he thought out the most little things like wheels on the hardcase.. I kinda dig it but the wooden bars look like foam pool noodles

[@bagmananon3446]

... and they thought Jack was a fool!

[@ellonysman]

Really? So, did you buy the magic beans? Ya, his acedemic sounding jargon went over my head too. Some sell, some buy. I do neither lol

[@ritualcities]

that was the best explanation of the Teuffel guitar i've ever heard.

[@azraelgargoyle]

There is a german publication (I believe currently being translated to english) by german professor Manfred Zollner, that describes in great scientific detail (1300 pages) how sound on an electric guitar works. Every minute detail has been lab tested and the result is: On an electric guitar, the wood has *zero* influence on the tone. The book is called "Die Physik der Elektrogitarre" and you can read it for free online. There is even a quite from Ulrich Teuffel himself (the guy who built the birdfish) in there stating that the influence of the wood is greatly overestimated.

[@dwellerinblack7816]

Thanks for the recommendation!

[@VolodyaVolodenka1981]

have you ever played a 50's Les Paul?

[@athmaid]

@@VolodyaVolodenka1981 those sound like the best thing ever once you know the price tag

[@falschnehmung]

... as an owner of a Teuffel BirdFish: like many other boutique guitars its only after weeks or months that you get to the point where you really understand what and how you get real value out of the THING. It's not just by plucking around for 5 minutes that the revelation happens - like with the middle of the road gibson-fender-ibanez stuff. And the 5 to 10 times more expensive will definitely not improve your playing by itself - subtleties will emerge over time only - and depending on your approach - that's where the real value is brought back to you - beyond all design hype and luthier's craftmanship ... and - encountered more than once - a lot depends on the guitar - [effect chain] amp combination - some combinations are more bitchy and touchy than others ...

[@nuberiffic]

How much effect does it have though really? Most audiences won't even notice the difference between a les paul and a strat

[@lelcecc4793]

whatever guitar they build, sooner or later we all come back to strat, tele, les paul and ES 335

[@bmwf1joel]

Lel Cecc not really!

[@Returnality]

Nah, I've been very happy with my Strandberg ever since I got it.

[@RageForSeven]

well, if it was true, there wouldn't be such a market

[@zeustweeter]

Lel Cecc I agree... and there isn’t really a major market for these boutique guitars.. not saying they aren’t quality but if you do not live in a highly populated metro city your not going to go to your corner guitar store to buy one of these .. still nice though. More art than instruments

[@nateklug5933]

Lel Cecc amen

[@aussie_philosopher8079]

I have worked in the engineering field and I can say the whole aluminium body concept makes a lot of sense and I totally support it especially the one from relish guitars in Switzerland.

[@createyourownheaven]

This is brilliant. That guitar with all those interchangeable dynamics is insane.

[@BeefNEggs057]

I thought those were pool noodles 😂😂 until he said they were tone bars. You’d have people lined up at your gigs to see what you’re playing for sure. A conversation starter...

[@DaFuNo]

I thought the whole thing was a back rest of a chair with a neck on it

[@NathanHassall]

Hey guys just hold on a second I gotta switch my tone wood its in my case that has wheels - Slash

[@J__C__]

I'd have to buy that guitar just to hang it on the wall. That thing it outrageous and beautiful at the same time. It sounds much better with the maple bars installed. Wow. That's a hell of a difference.

[@ShadeHope1969]

Knoxville here. Those tone wood bars on that guitar was amazing. Thank you for sharing that, and thanks for turning me on to R J Ronquillo

[@brucebaldy]

I like the tone bar design, looks cool and sounds good.

[@eclark9965]

Just want to say man, i dig your stuff. Slice of life stuff and you’re so natural on camera. Keep it up.

[@idnemgk]

I'd probably love that headless acoustic you played at the beginning of the video. Great video tour!!

[@Lorneplumber]

A lot if not all of the guitars shown here were at the Berlin Guitar Show earlier in the year - that place has some seriously weird instruments - Fantastic innovations

[@slowlearner984]

I get what Tuefel was trying to do, but those tone bars are at least twice as thick they should be to do what he suggests. Even then, they're only acting in tension and a guitar body has a more complex force structure than that.

[@DavidMorales-wm8os]

I hate you Rhett. Your title's get the best of my curiosity!!!! I can't scroll down my list of suggestion videos with out wondering DOES it sound good?!?! Just had to go back and click it. Awesome vid! Keep up the awesome, high quality, curiosity building videos.

[@BradColemanisHere]

I was super surprised at the good sounds coming out of that aluminum guitar with wooden bars. Love the idea, the concept, and clearly the execution. You basically have multiple guitars all in one. I'ts not pretty, but it is cool.

[@Apoorv293]

The guy explaining is a gem.

[@PabloJericho]

It’s weird seeing you play a headless knowing what you normally go for! Some amazing designs on display, good stuff Rhett

[@kalbra]

okay, I kept seeing this in my recommended but I thought that guitar looked weird and I was blown away by it and the crazy interchangeableness lol

[@mikerinehart]

That is a truly unique design. Something you might see Wild Stallyns playing in the future.

[@Reprodestruxion]

Love the Teuffels

[@Reprodestruxion]

And Moog guitars

[@henkeH2]

Dude, that is some sweet playing. Hearing your experienced fingers noodle around made my afternoon!

[@gothrers4552]

1:40 these guitars, sankey guitars, I'm literally obsessed with these since I played one when they were in France... Absolutely stunning, I swear I'll put my hands on one once again

[@plinkbottle]

I want them to make a guitar where the curve part that rests on the leg can be moved forward or back to suit different size players.

[@pusbys9730]

Charles Rablin that exists. It’s called the goatsee look it up

[@gabedoesthings2400]

@@pusbys9730 not funny didn't laugh

[@grilledspaghetti]

Came here for the Birdfish, love the Birdfish. Wish I had the cash for that.

[@zorgzev96]

They're neat, but I kinda like how normal shredsticks look better, like the Ibanez Prestiges lol. Not hating, just personal preference.

[@ilovejapanesemusic3858]

This is a great video! I'd love to see more like it, I see that it's rather old, but still it was awesome to watch it even now!

[@JulianDoe]

10:00 does it come in black?

[@imacmadman22]

Birdfish was the coolest, but I also like the green Teufel you didn't play.

[@dysfunctional_humanoid]

I want the one at 3:28 ! 😍

[@Crowbar11115]

If you ever want to see the definition of the word Pretentious in person just go to a guitar showcase.

[@Apoorv293]

In regards to the guitar from the design assignment, some of you guys are misinterpreting the intent of good industrial design. I am a professional designer and I can assure you that aesthetics and mental model matter a lot to the quality of the function. It would require a learning curve for someone to appreciate playing on a scalloped or floating frets what they imagine to play. I don't appreciate the lack of the whole of the head-stock, and imagine something similar to the form of the base or even a customisable attachment in the desired form! Even the overall aesthetics achieved by the form are questionable by many cultural standards. Going literal about form following function is an abstract practice because words are relative in the context of their meanings.

[@JonNewquist]

That was fun! Did you play the sculpted acoustic with fanned frets @ 4:00? That thing is an art piece.

[@leonardomeza6104]

looks like an hr giger drawing in the best way possible

[@youKnowWho3311]

That fish is strange, and cool given the engineering concept. I feel like you should be playing only shreddy intervals stuff. You should show up to a country sesh with that thing. LOL> One more thing for the internet to chew on. sounds like engineers may understand things such as cellular density in wood. Imagine that. I am sure you can understand that concept in human bodies/muscular/fat tissue.

[@JammyGit]

That aluminium guitar was a good innovation with those moveable pickups, but I don't believe the tone wood tone bar bollocks for a second. 😆 I think the builder knew it too because he just so happened to change to a different pickup at the same time he changed the 'tone bar'.....of course it's going to change the sound, it's a different pickup ffs. Come on, please, don't take people for idiots. 😐

[@RhettShull]

Jamie isn't the builder, he runs the showcase. And the tone wood thing certainly is not "bollocks" as the person who actually played the guitar in the video I can tell you changing out the wood made an immediate difference in tone and feel, and we actually switched the wood before changing the pickups. I edited that out of the video to keep the final version from being too long. Wood makes a huge difference in a guitars sound and feel.

[@JohnnyArtPavlou]

Jammy Git, Tone Bollocks!

[@mazklassa9338]

Same ol shit. Stick a hefty price tag on it....therefore it must be unbeatable. Not necessarily. I mean these things are great to look at; and aesthetics are important. But as far as tonality goes, the sound does not stretch as far in proportion to the amount of input cost the further it goes. It's like saying if the doubling effect of HD television from 4k to 8K etc., carries on then that means the human eye will have no issue keeping up with it. True: Image rendering will get better but the human eye won't. Same with the human ear. You can put all the bells n whistles on a guitar you like but it's still a bloody guitar.

[@willkupers]

Presume the tonewood discussion is finally solved. lol.

[@aGabay]

You should have kept that in the final video. You can't expect people to take it seriously when you do invalid comparisons like that. Therefore, I don't believe that the "Tone" bars make that much of a difference in the amplified sound. On body resonance and feel - of course it matters, but in the end of the day, what matters is what the audience/listener hears, and that is NOT tone wood.

[@BruceBurger]

Lol, “any questions?” Can I play it!? 🤪 🍳

[@camheiliger]

Very cool show. There is no doubt that guitar playing is going to evolve quickly over the next 20 years or so. New materials, new manufacturing techniques, etc. Like so many other things where people are attached emotionally, I wonder how much it will change people's buying habits away from traditional guitars, both stylistically and material-wise. Having interchangeable rods and carbon fiber is awesome, but there is something about the sound and the resonance of a traditional wooden instrument, not to mention the familiar body shapes. Thanks for sharing!

[@ricardoavainstruments8943]

The carbon fiber one is an AVA Guitar. www.avaguitars.com

[@kateruckus]

That crazy looking acoustic guitar at 1:35 reminds me of a fortune cookie.

[@ChurchOfTheHolyMho]

BassLab (basslab.de) has been making carbon fiber basses (and guitars) for years. Their website used to have some pretty bizzare custom shop shapes. Never had the opportunity to touch one, so no idea how good they felt to play.

[@spotmfd9431]

Thanks for the video. It's coming to Miami in couple weeks and was debating if I should go. Now I am.

[@avalerionbass]

Unique guitars, now with Fun Noodles!!

[@syn707]

That ‘Jetson’s guitar sounds great! Reminds me of my old GR707…. But I think a front man would hate the attention being diverted away. 😅

[@5urg3x]

Tueffel! That guy is amazing. He does some really advanced stuff. He has a lot of good info on his site too about different parts / design techniques etc.

[@brockallenmusic]

9:54 "You Are My Sanity" - TR

[@brendangibson2925]

Rhett ur awesome. And I love that store. They loaded me up on stickers

[@moimeme7839]

That aluminum guitar is awesome

[@Otis-Isom]

I think that the body wood and neck wood have an impact. I’m still on the fence about the fretboard wood

[@Richard_Jones]

I suspect a 'Belt Effect' with some of this.

[@Dug6666666]

Only thing they don't have is 50+ yrs of iconology. Guitarist are a fickle lot when it comes to what they find inspiring to play. Good to see the headless neck still hanging in there, a good idea still ahead of its time for many. Some beautiful artistry on display there.

[@bleeknoir]

Really funny reading the comments about the tone bar guitars. Some people have good ears, others make themselves sound ridiculous by claiming wood has no influence on the tone, when the difference is enormous.

[@e.g.systems6146]

Great video, and thanks for taking the time on our behalf, but sadly i didn't see a single thing I would have bought, even if I'd just won the lottery.

[@lancethrustworthy]

Yes, it sounds Good!

[@Ratguitar58]

That actually sounded pretty good! Nice work!!

[@TheMikebrown13]

Thanks for that! absolutely amazing stuff.

[@sadman5916]

What is that little open chord progression from 4:40 - 4:55? It's beautiful.

[@willfrank961]

I was curious too :) low e-string is always optional. I usually leave it out. (10=a,11=b,12=c) (last chord in brackets fits better in my opinion) x76800 x979xx xb9bxx xcac00 xcab00 xacb00 xac900 xaa900 x67800 079900 (x75700)

[@sadman5916]

@@willfrank961 Thanks man

[@alexbostelle287]

Craft beers, artisan sandwiches , boutique guitars

[@MrWilson-WithaPbass]

10:10 sounds like a really nice Strat :-)

[@hugohowell-meurs1625]

They should have one of Zac Eccles' guitars

[@pistaboy]

9:55 is that Dave Mathews? Live at radio city with Tim Reynolds? Some devil intro?

[@altosnad]

Five words to you: The Judas Kiss - Quebec Magnetic

[@fabiogasperini4809]

It might be the camera microphone, but it doesn't sound any better that any cheap guitar from Wal-Mart.

[@2204JCM]

While the recording isn’t top notch -the issue is the guitar.

[@benhofyt]

I don'tnt understand why everyone is so against tonewood making a difference, we hear a difference in wood, we have done tests to find the difference, and we don't have anything to gain by proving you wrong. We hear a difference, and maybe it's too subtle for many people to hear, but some of us do, and we aren't lying to the world just for kicks.

[@davidcaldwell8977]

Have you ever seen Lindsay Buckinghams hollow body acoustic? That's a One of a kind, (maybe)...

[@aniquinstark4347]

That 3 string is a replica of the lead guitarist from Starcrawlers custom instrument

[@guitarmdpittsburgh7139]

Reinventin' the flippin. wheel . . . .

[@user-od5pe8me6d]

these are the sort of guitars prince would a in his collection if he was still alive

[@NewFalconerRecords]

Through his pedalboard containing nothing but standard Boss pedals....

[@theblindsniper]

Whoaaaa, hopefully I can make it to their SF leg of the tour!

[@superskyman6418]

That's amazing 1:30

[@revenant235]

What is the name of the manufacturer of the hollow carbon fiber guitar? I can’t work that out from their website, thank you in advance.

[@alenac7269]

This was super cool! Thank you for doing this video :)

[@CatchMeOutside361]

Impressive but the time tested greats as stated below can never be replaced.... and to answer you question I would say yes it does sound good lol

[@kierenmoore3236]

Yeah, that Teuffel is pretty nuts (in a good way). 😊

[@1mdlmusic]

What would happen to the sound if you removed the wood cylinders entirely?

[@LochNessAnthony]

Ultimate tone

[@teemothywong]

anybody know the chord progression he was playing at 4:40? :)

[@mykhedelic6471]

1. How about dynamite, what if the bars are sticks of dynamite, what will that do to my tone? 2. The last one you showed really interested me, as i've long thought of a guitar that was built from a complete mold. I always thought it might be cool to carve a complete guitar, totally out of a solid block of wood, no bolts or glue joints etc. Or maybe genetically engineered wood that could be grown to a specific shape. Or maybe you just need a slab of Sequoia (never cut down a Sequoia.) 3. Thoughts on anything you played? Did anything have distinctly different feel to anything you have ever played?

[@ricardoavainstruments8943]

The last one is an AVA Guitar :)

[@ricardoavainstruments8943]

www.avaguitars.com

[@TheAllAroundMan]

One day I'll build myself a bootleg Teuffel Tesla

[@LostaraYil666]

I hope that’s the kind of customization that will be the future of guitar

[@allstopblue5717]

Love I have heard of multiple companies working “modular” guitars. Where you can very quickly swap out pickups, necks, bodies, fretboards, hardware, etc. Interesting for sure. I could easily see that happening just a matter of will it actually catch on and people use it.

[@johndoesstuff4602]

Kirk Hammett played that guitar before

[@EllenJoyceAuthor]

wood on electric guitar dont do a thing for sound its all in your head wood does not get picked up in the magnetic field of the pick up

[@GlennMichaelThompson]

Love the Birdfish.... but if I coud buy one of Ulrich's guitars it would be the Tesla. Mike Sankey from Ottawa Canada has some forward thinking ergonomic designs I wouldn't mind playing. Too bad there were no guitars built by Chris Forshage, particularly his Orion models.

[@MidoriMae]

super cool guitar! just thinking just how much the wood bars actually affect the sound. i mean, is just that bit of wood gonna change the resultant resonance that much? since im thinking the metal in the construction would be resonating as well so how much of those little bars are actually coming through?

[@jimmyisraelinks]

All those u showed were outstanding the innovation of the industrial designed guitar would b a game changer if they produced them n larger quantities but lessoned the options just a bit dam amaze zazing

[@noahlaughaha]

Hey Rhett, was the title "Does Is Sound Good?" on purpose? Just making sure in case you meant to type "It" instead, haha

[@RhettShull]

Whoops! Good catch, Thanks!

[@nathanpatrickturner8720]

I was really surprised that you didn't play that three pickup one that looked like a cross between a Deusenberg and a Novo.

[@tylerl8934]

This comment section is exactly why people judge guitarists and guitar based music. Everyone has their nose stuck up in the air, they think they know everything, and they think innovation is stupid. That the 60s and 70s is all that matters, and that classic guitars like the strat, tele, Les Paul, etc. are all we need. And that’s exactly why guitar based genres are dying. People would rather believe they’re right than accept that they’re wrong, and unfortunately everybody BELIEVES the best has already come and gone, rather than ACCEPT that we can do ANYTHING with music and guitars to forward our processes and defy genres that have already been created

[@tomr1056]

Any idea of the make of the grey guitar at 1:53? I'd like to check out their instruments..

[@galaxy7nails613]

That's the Porto Douro by Ergon Guitars

[@guitar4life2010]

I like how you use Bebas Neue font all the time

[@vf7vico]

some of them made me think, scenese from Star Wars bar bands. cool stuff!

[@Josbornevonosborne]

No Boston area show?

[@antediluvian31415]

Who is the maker of the carbon fiber guitar at the end?

[@tarkenton3895]

Alright, so i get that the whole point of this (as described at the start) is to show cutting edge new designs by boutique designers rather than the run of the mill big company stuff like fenders, gibsons, and acoustic brands like martin (since a lot of boutique brands are focused on acoustics), but a lot of these brands still feel like they're stuck in that vintage feel. I don't particularly get what's innovative about taking some slight variation of maybe 5 traditional shapes and making them super expensive. Don't get me wrong either, I absolutely love vintage stuff (chasing vintage guitars is a good example, great brand) but I disagree when people say they're innovative. Brands like dingwall, aristides, strandberg are truly innovative, whether people who are vintage purists like it or not.

[@allstopblue5717]

Tarkenton these designers are just making what they want to make in order to produce the type of music they like? All the brands you stated as being innovative are all guitars mainly used for metal or prog styles. I really think it’s as simple as that. People make what they want to make. Not a lot of boutique designer at this level concerned with chugga chugga riffs.

[@tarkenton3895]

@@allstopblue5717 All of these brands are now being adapted more into other guitar playing styles but it was the technical metal guys that took it on first (apart maybe from the jazz guys). It's more of the adoption of extended range guitar across the guitar spectrum and not about the innovation of these brands per se. All I'm saying is if the only things that change about these "innovative" vintage style guitars is the wood choice and how aged they look, there's really not much reason to buy them. Just because tech metal players are the most obvious these days for having used innovative designs, it doesn't disparage how innovative it is. Hell the fusion guys used these designs before them, it just wasn't as obvious

[@JayMoreau]

The tone wood just sings on that instrument

[@ricardoavainstruments8943]

Did you like the AVA Guitar? It's the one made of carbon fiber.

[@GeoFitz4]

Prisma Guitars makes some really neat looking guitars built from recycled skateboard decks.