🤔 DOES JOE JOYCE REALLY HAVE AN "IRON JAW"??? 🤔

[@Kofz89]

Anyone here after the Zhang stoppage 👀

[@jamiecarlin-KING]

I was thinking that- the slowest man in the ring, it watched the Zhang fight live- and zhang beat the piss outta him- it looked a lot worse in real life, because you could here the shots he was taking.Really slow footed.

[@lonewolfboxing]

Yup, after the second one. Crazy how right Hatman got it.

[@adillambat]

Stoppages yh😂

[@Cbiz505]

Aged liked wine

[@marmedli9124]

Joe was 16 stone when he got dropped he now 19 stone of functional muscle ,he will undoubtedly have more punch resistance now.

[@samwarrilow2881]

I was thinking the same, I just watched it - he’s proper skinny in the Kuzmin fight

[@BUMHEAD1100]

Looks almost double the size of those old skinny days….. was just wondering the weight difference.

[@dru-chambers]

Joyce is the same height and dimensions as AJ but weighs 270 lbs. His bone density is real. I suspect his current style means he SEE's everything coming, in the amatuers, he was so green and messy that he got hit while punching more. His construct is better. Chin is also about boxing style and defence along with natural gifts But with that bone density, he should still have better natural chin gifts than most of the division.

[@alexb292]

I don’t care what anybody says. Joyce is 6’6 271 pounds with abs and insane conditioning. And the great fundamentals too. That’s so hard to beat. Plenty of training camp stories of his incredible cardio when running with lightweights etc

[@perpetualintellectual2026]

Parker caught him with some flush shots, so did dubois. He d9dnt even blink. He has the best chin in boxing currently.

[@devans5118]

He’s been knocked down with head gear on in the amateurs to nobodies, but his chin is the best in the game 😂 super casual you are

[@TheJoker-yz8dv]

@@devans5118 He's only been dropped once, so what? 10 years ago too. Who has a better chin than Joyce currently?

[@devans5118]

@@TheJoker-yz8dv fury has a better chin he proved it he’s fought better opposition taken right hands from wilder and klitcko where as Joyce has fought stiverene, takam, hammer and Parker, not exactly hard hitters but casuals like yourself see a 0 in the loss column and think he’s top 3 but he’s fighting old men and left overs lol

[@TheJoker-yz8dv]

@@devans5118 Fury has a good chin, but no way it's better than Joyce's. His defense is just a lot better than Joyce's. Joyce would never get dropped by Pajkic and Cunningham. He's been hit by way harder shots than some of the ones Fury's been knocked down with and didn't even feel them.

[@TheJoker-yz8dv]

@@devans5118 Also notice how you left Dubois out lol. Okolie who is best mates with AJ says Dubois hits harder than AJ. Joyce took Dubois' best shots easily.

[@unclefester831]

Usyk and Fury are the 2 top dogs at heavyweight. Joe Joyce is the dark horse of the division.

[@9-LYFE-SPHINX]

Bone Density x5

[@DailyCorvid]

As in he is gonna bone Wilder five times as hard as Wilder boned himself taking this fight on!

[@robiulahmed]

He might have been in his mid/late 20's when he got dropped, but he was also a beanpole. He's much stockier now.

[@DrRepper]

Joyce was stopped in the amateurs several times, and I've been scratching my head a bit about this new found chin, but Joyce noticeably more physically substantial and robust than he was a few years ago. He's a late bloomer IMO.

[@Shivam-ue6ur]

If he uses his chin as an asset , it will eventually get cracked. Joyce is good but will suffer serious damage over the years with his style.

[@TheJoker-yz8dv]

Joyce hasn't been in a war yet. He took less shots against Parker than AJ did against Usyk. He doesn't get hit as much as people think cause he's always backing the other guy up.

[@Bobby.2000]

I agree with you, but only if he has 30 fights or more. I think he'll be done by 25 fights.

[@ops-spartacus1420]

He may already be there, have u listened to him talk in interviews.

[@cbing4036]

He’s 37 you twat !

[@n.w.owhoknowstheshadowknow58]

Forman? Lots do lots don't it depends on the man.

[@pedrot4814]

I know Parker isn't regarded as the biggest puncher but at the end of the day, hes a 255lb professional heavyweight. The wound up overhands and uppercuts he landed on Joyce would have at least wobbled any other heavyweight. I don't know why but Joyce has a ridiculous chin and or hides being hurt really well. As for the amateur fights, stoppages are very different to the pros.

[@pauloldburyguitarjams6914]

Scientifically heavyweights bone density improves in there 30s and Joyce was much lighter when he was stopped in his past the extra weight is a major factor u may have overlooked 👍

[@JohnSmith-bu3fw]

Correct, which kinda makes this video moot. In his 30's Joyce has obviously developed his freakish bone density, which presumably developed around his jaw. The fact is, he has been caught absolutely flush by Hammer, Takam and Parker, and barely moves. Whatever the reason, his chin is the real deal. I think you have to target his body, particularly the liver area.

[@sniper11n.d.34]

You can knock out anyone. It's just about timing. People make it complicated.

[@DirtyJamesUK]

Who? Professional fighters? You can knock out nobodies. Certain people are very hard to knock out.

[@sniper11n.d.34]

@@DirtyJamesUK No one is invisible. With the right punch you can. Your chin with time downgrades.

[@magnuskrauss3451]

I think his "Iron chin" is more due to a psychological factor than a physical. You don't absorb the punches well if you're scared, nervous, stressed, overall emotional

[@jamesgeorge65]

I was very surprised to see that Joyce took all of Parker's best shots and wasn't fazed at all. I'm like, "what????".

[@TheJoker-yz8dv]

He does have an iron jaw. Only been dropped once in his entire career by Kuzmin. I do think his punch resistance has improved since then, he has changed a lot physically since. Joyce weighed 235 lbs back then, he weighs 270 lbs now.

[@devans5118]

Your punch resistance doesn’t improve when you get tagged every fight plus he’s 37 so his punch resistance definantly hasn’t improved plus he struggled with an old Bryant Jennings 😂

[@TheJoker-yz8dv]

@@devans5118 Him taking bombs with ease nowadays says otherwise. And he doesn't even get hit as much as people are saying, AJ got hit more by Usyk than Joyce against Parker. I bet you were saying Dubois and Parker would beat him lol.

[@devans5118]

@@TheJoker-yz8dv aj got hit more because he’s in there with someone who’s far more skilled Parker has a history of being bullied by big guys in the ring but of course you don’t know that because your simply a casual, ide watch the sport a little bit more before you embarrass yourself fella saying someone’s punch resistance gets better when they’re 37 and gets hit every fight shows how deluded you are 😂

[@TheJoker-yz8dv]

@@devans5118 You don't get what I'm saying "casual". You're acting like Joyce gets hit 300x a fight. My point is, nobody was talking about AJ taking too many shots like they talked about Joyce. Double standards. And btw you're the casual who thinks headgear guards your brain🤣

[@devans5118]

@@TheJoker-yz8dv what are you talking about 😂 everyone slated aj because he was schooled, in the first fight he was almost knocked down he took so much 😂😂😂 you’re really showing your a casual now lol you think punch resistance gets better the older you get, one of the most casual statements ive ever heard you really are a joker

[@kieransmith3290]

He took flush shots off Dubois who is a serious puncher and barely flinches, taking over hand rights from 17-18 stone men Parker takam with 10Oz gloves. This guy clearly has an iron chin.

[@GST51]

yeah , trying to argue that he doesnt have an iron chin is a bit of a sretch ! clearly the guy is built a bit differently , to say he can take a shot is an understatement ! and even if he is slow ...that punch resistance combined with a huge workrate and incredible engine , is a recipe for disaster for an oponent !

[@kieransmith3290]

@@GST51 100% agree he’s a very dangerous opponent for anyone

[@dirtyboxxinghabbitz6363]

Look did u not see the hits he took from Parker. His jaw has got stronger lol

[@mikeyfox-]

I Think Joyce would walk wilder down and expose him worse than fury did. Obviously he has that freakish right hand and IF it lands flush, Joyce would be in trouble

[@kiely4561]

Seems that Joyce’s style is built more for the pro’s than the amateurs, he has a great engine over 12 rounds and the ref’s are less likely to jump in if he’s taking shots unlike in the amateurs, he also appears to have filled out a lot since hitting his 30’s, it’s as if he’s got his man strength later in life, if you go back and look at him in that Usyk fight 10 years ago he looks like a boy compare to now even though he was in his mid to late 20s at the time

[@davieboy666]

Well said.. He was half the size 10 years ago.. .

[@davieboy666]

Well he's clearly got a good jaw now..!.which fight did you watch? 🤔

[@xiv7477]

The Kuzman fight was a ridiculously early stoppage. Joyce was caught by a big shot early on but it wasn't a heavy knockdown at all - he had his feet square on when he was hit! Plus, he got straight back to his feet, looked the ref in the eye and wasn't wobbling or on jelly legs whatsoever. Also, if you look at his physique in that fight compared to now, you can see he's clearly filled out a lot - not with flab, but with solid bulk.

[@andrewcdavies21]

The knockdown by Sergey Kuzmin is not because it was a hard shot, it was his footwork. He got his feet into a mess and got caught square.

[@sheldoncooper0]

Oh goodddd....

[@brockfg]

i think joyce is currently the best hw who hasn't held a real title

[@devans5118]

You’re clearly a casual

[@brockfg]

@@devans5118 lmfao who is it then mr hardcore

[@mrsentencename7334]

@@devans5118 Yeh who?

[@devans5118]

@@mrsentencename7334 hrgovic, already beat Joyce and everytime Joyce is asked about hrgovic he dismiss it lol not hard to know if your a real fan but because he’s British and unbeaten you somehow think he’s top 3 😂

[@mrsentencename7334]

@@devans5118 hrgovic? Not a chance, I’ve seen his last fight. Come on don’t be silly now

[@mulluppy1982]

Nah Joyce is a completely different beast now. Saw a photo of him next to Joshua from when he was an amateur. He looked way smaller than he does now. Not sure anyone can stop Joyce as he is today.

[@Cbiz505]

😂😂😂😂

[@mulluppy1982]

@@Cbiz505 😂🤣👌

[@erelpc]

I think it's pretty much impossible to have a so-called iron jaw in the heavyweight division, unless you're Mariusz Wach. George Chuvalo's chin was a little overstated too in my opinion.

[@barringtonlevy1941]

Joyce has filled out so much in his 30s, just look at the difference now and when he was at the olympics 10 years ago. This is probably why his chin is so good now

[@tedklampett1737]

yes i think that lowers the center of mass

[@bigharold7717]

"270lbs of chewed bubble gum" such a great description of Tyson Fury 😀

[@puresim316nosimracingnolif3]

This man has bone structure 500 times more stronger than us

[@paystyles5429]

EJ has strong bones also

[@heisensperg9264]

Funny how you don't think Fury has the stamina to go 12 rounds with Joyce yet you think AJ beats Joyce because he beat him in the amateurs Shyte beat AJ in the amateurs but he couldn't do it as a pro I think Joshua struggles with Joyce his style, size and strength but especially because of the constant pressure Joyce puts on his opponents

[@brucelang1201]

The fact that he's been stopped earlier in his career which if anything it's experience,no it doesn't mean he won't get dropped again but he know what's it's like and will certainly try avoid that again.

[@sportsfan1455]

The fury vs Joyce fight would be very interesting. Joyce just threw 844 punches. For context. Fury in the Wilder fight threw 385 punches. Uysk 657! and AJ 492. Fury punch output isn't as high as some might think. Fury is a master at breaking the pace of a fight through grappling. But what happens when he faces someone who weighs the same and throws twice as many punches. How does he look then? Very interesting IMO

[@marccreation1052]

Fury has enough self awareness to avoid Joyce.

[@Talisman09]

He won't throw as many punches if he is getting countered constantly.. Fury's timing is what stands out when he outboxes other top fighters, his hands aren't THAT fast, he is great at finding openings

[@sportsfan1455]

@@Talisman09 I can see that happening. Finding openings against Joyce won't be difficult. What happens if joyce answers the counters with 2 or 3 shots? Parker landed as many counters as one could hope to land to slow someone down

[@sportsfan1455]

@@marccreation1052 He does but his methods of slowing a fight down and staying away have changed since his return. He isn't quite as mobile. In his last 4 fights, Fury would punch and immediately initiate a clinch. Hes been caught against the ropes far more than he used to and finding his body has never been easier. It would be a very interesting puzzle for Fury to solve

[@DailyCorvid]

Joyce - slowest thinking HW currently boxing. Clues in the name THE JUGGERNAUT! Fury - Quickest thinking HW currently boxing. Clues in the name THE GYPSY KING! Only one winner, not the guy with the turning circle of the vehicle he's named after¬

[@sl7344]

I think style wise Joyce is a nightmare for fury I don't know if fury would have enough to keep him off him and he's not going to be able to walk forwards and bully him. Fury might just be clever and cute enough to do it but we'll never see it anyhow

[@oussama2040]

i think joyce beats fury but frank warren doesn't wanna make that fight , he would rather fight charr

[@sl7344]

@@oussama2040 I think Frank would make that fight if it was upto him tbh. But I think a big part of it is Fury wants that Usyk fight payday and doesn't want any risk before then

[@mattdmastiff4524]

Good point about Joyce and Foreman. That's who I used to campare him too and maybe you could compare him to Comeback Foreman ( which George was 38 when he began the comeback and Joe's 37 now) where they can knock over lower tier opponents, but higher up they go they're playing more for accumulated punishment and TKOs. I think the most apt comparison, which might seem strange at first but makes more sense the more i think about it, is Carlos Monzon. Just playing to either not lose rounds whilst gathering intel/memorizing patterns or make the opponents work harder than them with only superficial results that will leave them vulnerable to their fresher, honed in, but still measured onslaught. Monzon was perhaps the greatest master of this approach and Joyce, along with any boxer who has super heavy bones, would be wise to follow suit.

[@funnyfaces3849]

Weight does play a factor Joyce was no where near as heavy in the amateurs as he is now it definitely effects resistance he was 17 stone in amateurs he is 19.5 now that’s a huge difference I think this plays a part

[@Noisehead101]

They used to say that about Antonio Margarito until he ran into Shane Mosley. It can happen to any fighter.

[@daviddawid123]

Jo joyce has strong bone density... In the pros, i have only seen him rocked slightly in the pros against Dubious... Joseph parker is not a walk over... That was a good tough fight

[@andrewwilliams8413]

What your saying is believe what I say, not what you see ! Joyce hits back when he gets nailed Chavalo just used to take it

[@benlowe578]

He has a granite chin. But... Even granite chins can crack sometimes.

[@jack-dy7cx]

Cheers for the vid hatman

[@Trader36988]

Joyce was a complete novice in the Kuzman fight the knock down happened because he squared up, also he weighing in at around 105-106kg at that time he now weighs 122kg and is properly condition to take the heavy blows.

[@wayneb9253]

Joe Joyce has a chin that will allow him to beat usyk.

[@importantvideos4529]

Usyk already beat Joyce - Toyed with him... One of the slowest boxers at HW vs the fastest? And you think the slowest will win? Stop playing.

[@reiner164]

Close fight, but I think Usyk beats him on points. No way Usyk is ever stopping him though.

[@dguitar3831]

Joyce had to make weight in the amateurs, that can effect punch resistance. He was 270 solid Saturday, so 100% he has a better chin as a 'Pro'

[@devans5118]

Ahhh yes your chin gets much better when your much older, why’d you think he stayed at amateur for so long

[@dguitar3831]

@@devans5118 because he started boxing late, and wanted Olympic gold! You clown!

[@devans5118]

@@dguitar3831 you’re a casual fella anyone who thinks someone’s punch resistance is better at 37 is brain dead lol keep crying

[@debodevil6974]

Joyce was feeling the pressure in the Parker fight at the end. People making out he was fresh but he was far from fresh. He's just got a style that makes it look like he's never hurt

[@NY-Dani]

Amateur boxing can be a joke, the ref jumps in. Ok he's been dropped a couple of times but i still think he's got the best chin of this generation's top boys.

[@ashleywilliam2603]

My exact point about fury no way keeps his unbeaten record if he fights Joyce aj usyk and maybe some other top heavyweights out there. Hes definitely not invincible like you say he wouldn't of been dropped certainly by lesser fighters

[@drankyodrank]

He very may well lost if he tries to go for ten title defenses against the best guys available. But if he’s successful he gets his spot in history

[@Dan-kg4np]

The chin will hold up againest pretty much every heavyweight imo Wilders the only question mark on that topic. But his work rate is whats most inpressive and gives Fury and the others fits

[@Rebelconformist82]

I actually think combos from AJ could stop him

[@Rebelconformist82]

@@smoothcritical1 mate I'm not saying Aj is going to do him. I'm saying his power in combination punching is something which could put Joyce on the floor if he's not on the ball

[@roblees6791]

Watching Joyce fight reminds me of playing knockout kings against an opponent who's stamina is 100% all the time. Movement and pot shots to gain a points victory is possibly the only way to beat him, do any of the current heavyweights have the fitness levels required for this task. Probably only Usyk, I don't think Fury will want any part of Joyce.

[@elrablo3286]

Yeah, your point that Joyce is one of the physically strongest heavyweights is valid. When you talked about it also Dubois came to my mind. He is up there too.

[@Cristopher-S.G]

Joyce was indeed knocked down by Kuzmin, but he got up as fast as he went down because I believe he wasn't really hurt, I think he made a footwork mistake while going backwards leaving him off-balance when got caught with that overhand right. In amateur boxing referees tend to stop fights too fast. Joshua did not even wobbled Joyce as far as I'm aware, he just landed many punches and the referee deemed he had seen enough. I don't know what happened in the Hamza Begueri fight though, but it's not stated as a KO, but a TKO, so I believe something similar to the Kuzmin or AJ fight might have happened.

[@Ash-vv7eu]

Joyce spars with M142 HIMARS

[@cayetanosoler3432]

George foreman got cracked and dropped in his 20's .Later in his second career and older Goerge was cracked by Bert Cooper, Gerry Cooney , Evander Holyfield, Tommy morrison, Micheal Moore, Shannon Briggs and didn't go anywhere .Same with Joyce .Fury unbeatable and time will tell .

[@haiderrada2446]

Its the shots that u dont see that hurt and when u wear a headguard u cant see all the shots

[@coxsapples3414]

I think he'll go for the crab defense like Foreman when his arms thicken up some more. I mean why not, everything else is similar to Foreman style wise lol

[@DailyCorvid]

That's no insult George was mental, oldest title winner in any combat sport. One of the hardest punchers and definitely the toughest guys in his era.

[@abaramyasharal1056]

He has the best chin I seen since Antonio Margarito

[@erelpc]

Not as good as Mariusz Wach's chin though is it?

[@drankyodrank]

Larry Holmes and Ali both got knocked out in the amateurs.

[@grudeman]

Over the last couple of years I've really really came to appreciate and love George foreman, he was a truly outstanding fighter with incredibly underrated boxing IQ and almost every other attribute you can give a huge man. I really like Joyce also inside and outside the ring no bullshxx just a real bloke who is tough as nails with a great engine and real intangible attributes inside the ring. Ive picked against him in many fight's but I won't again, unless it's against usyk because he is way to fast, but I believe usyk beats fury handily on points also

[@Crazyoldman84]

never knocked out never seriously hurt that's the point. Amateurs are massively different.

[@sexydudeuk2172]

he did get koed in the amatuers and zhang battered him

[@clarencenelson7717]

JJ amateur boxing record is one thing, but his professional is quite another and the two don't necessarily meet. The vast majority of people attain their bone mass peak by say, 30 years. He is 37 years and since those early days JJ has developed, strengthen, hardened and conditioned his bones. We know exercising helps in strengthening bone mass, but we don't really know the methodology he used to accomplish the bone modelling process. What we see are results and in the end that is what really matters. JJ has a very good chin, excellent stamina and conditioning and though his jab is not fast, it's commanding with accurate timing plus he carries power in his punches. I rank him at No.3 after Fury and Usyk.

[@camborocks]

Like you say Hatman, ANYONE can get knocked out. I reckon Joyce has enjoyed the benefits of turning pro late, such as the less number of pro fights where the longer fights leads to a lot more opportunity to take punishment, compared to someone like Dillian Whyte, who has had a lot of punishment dealt to him over many many rounds in many fights. Good point well made in the video though.

[@paystyles5429]

Whyte & Ortiz punch resistance is Done

[@BrainDamageComedy]

good resistance and defence. has a good chin = hard to ko. not being scared of whats coming and being relaxed and ready to ship it or slip etc = goes a long way to not getting hurt.

[@jahkarl7376]

George Chavalo the Canadian definitely had a granite head/jaw big George couldn't put at dent in him and he has no ill effects from being in with some brutal power punchers. By the way Jesus is Lord of all.

[@thunderzproductions5474]

Jesus is lord amen

[@johnnyboy7538]

Amen.

[@goodyeoman4534]

The whole 'chin' thing is over-analysed, using flawed reasoning. A 'chin' is not a measurable thing that can be compared between fighters. There are so many other factors involved re knockouts: fitness, strength, luck, dehydration etc. Anyone can get knocked out, as we all know, so how does citing a knockout ten years ago invalidate the current durability of a boxer's chin?

[@Chris-zx3wo]

He rarely gets hit on the chin. If you notice, a lot of the shots hit the nose and forehead area, that is the strongest part of the skull. His hands are always up, I suspect of Wilder hit him clean on the chin he is going for a kip

[@asdgjgjhgs_hhhjs]

there's not many men on this planet who wouldnt get slept by wilder

[@benlowe578]

Joyce Fury is the fight I want. It's a great fight. Fury boxing and moving and Joyce chasing him down. Both have good stamina. Both have good durability. Very big very strong guys...

[@puresim316nosimracingnolif3]

Best chin in the world Joyce has

[@zorrosp7483]

joyce has the best chin out of the heavyweights

[@TheVanillatech]

Is Fury REALLY 6'9"? Did Ali REALLY float like a butterly? It's just stories, HatMan.

[@abztractboxingandstuff8384]

Hatman is getting dropped evidence of not having a good chin if you get up straight away on steady legs? I don’t think of that as a measure of a fighters punch resistance because anyone can be dropped especially in the hw division. What I class as a poor chin is an amir Khan who is all over the shop once he gets clipped and just cannot seem to recover.

[@mymmarda1antman61]

So much sense in this video my god i need to join your chat group I’ve been saying this to my boys

[@Padoshee]

Joyce was not fighting at his natural weight in amateurs. He was a lot lighter. For example he was 50 pound lighter when he lost to usyk

[@tedspoonboxing8837]

It's obviously very good but I agree it doesn't deserve all-time status. Not yet!

[@Lakenbeer]

A good chin also relies on having a solid base and keeping your form perhaps that's improved

[@TheUltrawideGuy]

Counting the Kuzmin stoppage is a bit off. He got knocked down, got straight up and ref waived it off. Probably got more to do with fighting Russian in Belarus than Joyce's chin.

[@renegadebrad7448]

I totally agree with you why not an in house fight Fury vs Joyce especially now Fury has posted that his deadline for AJ has passed so he can take the Joyce fight instead

[@DrRepper]

Warren wouldn't go for that: he's taken Joyce down the IBF route and Dubois down the WBA route to spread his risk.

[@anUntouchable]

To be honest I never knew about the prior stoppages

[@MylotheMask]

Amateurs/pro is no comparison? A ref will stop an amateur fight alot quicker than a pro fight

[@shamirmohammed9264]

Then it means nobody is invincible in the heavy division.Even Usyk has been dropped a couple of times in his fights

[@DeejayBuchi]

Not in the pros…

[@billcollins6705]

Joyce has surprised me all through his pro career, I thought he would have lost long before now. He gives the impression of being slow and awkward, but he's very deceiving. At this stage, I think it's a given that he's got a sound chin. If he gets dropped or stopped, I think it's likely to be very early, as a fight progresses he seems to warm to it and of course he does'nt tire. He took some flush shots from Parker and did'nt even flinch. Also the first man to stop Parker, that should raise the eyebrows of everyone else in the division.

[@aiyahuntacheimumbi236]

As a very tall heavyweight myself it's easy to lose your footing and balance when you're fresh and inexperienced. You said yourself he wasn't really hurt. It takes time to learn how to keep your center of gravity that tall. I pretty much agree, but he certainly has at least a very good chin. Agree about Wilder completely.

[@So1asola]

How tall are you bro

[@wyldfitboxing1570]

Superb Hatman

[@wunwun8875]

I think Joyce has a great chin. I wouldn't say nobody can knock him out. I don't think that of anyone. I haven't seen Joyce actually knocked out cold or even on unsteady legs. I have seen him get fights waved off by referees. Amateur refs are a bit quick to stop fights. The AJ won, he was stopped on his feet. The Kuzmin one, was first a standing count but his feet looked strong and he looked fine. He was just hit hard and knocked off balance. He was then caught square and put down with a hard punch. I don't think he was even hurt personally. He got up and to me, he looked absolutely fine. Looked steady, wasn't wobbling or looking confused and when it was waved off, he walked away normally. Haven't seen the begueni one but it looks like it was, again, waved off by the referee. I think Joyce has a great chin but I don't think anyone is superman.

[@King0wnz13]

completely agree

[@ezza-and-friends]

Joyce has definitely physically matured over last ten years his body has definitely thickend I would guess his bone density has definitely got stronger

[@visiow2691]

His chin hasn’t thickened though

[@garysmith1206]

He clearly got caught cold.

[@predictingthefuture1]

Kuzmin fight Joyce was completely fine , stoppages in Amateur fights are fugaze. Getting knocked down is not an indicator of someone’s chin , you can get knocked down due to poor balance but he looked completely fine.

[@undisputed1291]

Weirdly today i said, i thought AJ would hit Joyce enough to get it waved off!... i didn't know AJ had already done tgat in the amateurs?? It doesn't mean anything, but i must have seen something???😏

[@avoidingthebrown9987]

He’s about to sign with sky 👀 🧱 tops shoulder roll will be unreal 👌

[@reiner164]

Never thought of it this way, but Joyce is a bigger guy naturally than Fury. He was 271,6 lb without carrying much extra body fat whereas Fury is massively blown up when he's at that weight. Would be a close fight between them since Fury is much faster and slicker. I'd still probably give the edge to Fury though.

[@jamielowe463]

How is fury up? Also if fury is blown up say like aj is why doesn’t fury gas out if he’s fighting at unnatural weight?

[@dogsbollocksgenius9480]

@@jamielowe463 because fury at 270 has a higher body fat percentage than Joyce does at 270

[@reiner164]

@@dogsbollocksgenius9480 exactly

[@chrisellingsen9677]

Very good stuff, real talk.

[@Stefsax]

i think Fury just gets complacent when he's winning, he starts to show boat and belivies he can't be hurt until he get s hit off guard.

[@DanielDarts82]

Joe was ALOT smaller as an amateur.

[@adamstewart2475]

Hatman = hypocrite. Lemme tell ya why pal. You said in multiple of your vids “Heavyweights develop / mature differently and at different stages” Joyce looked like a noodle in the amateurs. JOYCE HAS GROWN ABOUT 7 STONE SINCE. 🤦🏻‍♂️ Absolute goon mate sorry but you are. Retire from boxing news pal.

[@Nicholas-Prince-Milverton]

He's always talking about how he is objective. But he's a very biased man

[@johnnyesponge9218]

Joe joyce has a good chin but I think he gets in far too cleanly to take Wilders right hand

[@sexydudeuk2172]

well zhang hurt him in the 2nd round so his chin aint indestructable

[@4EvarSoul]

​​@@sexydudeuk2172 hrgovic has a real iron chin 😮in the Heavyweight today

[@AkiraGuitar777]

😂

[@movieandtheatrelover5587]

@@4EvarSoul miller probaly has the best chin in heavyweight today. guy took dubois best shots and never went down

[@4EvarSoul]

@@movieandtheatrelover5587 Yeah also Miller has a pretty damn good chin as well but he is like 300lbs and Hrgovic is like 240lbs still taking power shots from guys like Zhang and Dubois without even wobbling both guys have incredible chins 👍

[@kelletman]

Disagree, both David Tua and Joe Joyce knockdowns came in the early stages of their carers David Tua started much earlier than Joe Joyce who turned to boxing much later, you learn to ride shots better, strength and conditioning is something you develop over your boxing career, both D Tua and J Joyce got better at absorbing those big shots with time, L Lewis said much the same about a fighter that came back from inactivity, taking a big shot early in your career is a big shock to your system, the same can be said if you have been out of the ring for an extended period of time , the same shot that dropped you early in a boxes career is probably not going to have the same effect further down the line, you cannot compare being hit in the amateurs to been hit flush on the chin with the likes of J Parker and Daniel Dubois, that's a ridicules comparison - keep it real, focus on the pro ranks.

[@Padoshee]

I agree also Joyce was a lot lighter in amateurs he wasnt at his natural weight he is like 50 pound heavier now

[@dj_raw_nz]

Wasn’t Tua stopped with a body shot

[@sexydudeuk2172]

zhang battered joyce

[@kelletman]

@@sexydudeuk2172 No kidding Sherlock.

[@lanatana3867]

People are just over hyping Fury. What are the top names on his record or of any note . Only 2 and they are a 39year old ready to retire W.Klitch and Wilder. Who has Wilder on his record that is of any high level . It is Grandpa Ortiz wow a guy who should have retired with the Holyfield’s

[@thememeconnoisseur4088]

@@Paul_Cx Povetkin has a significantly better record than Ortiz along with better credentials, do not compare the 2

[@rjb58]

Anybody seen the scar on his face, I would think that he has a metal in his face somewhere

[@MannyRiberaOriginal]

The jaw has developed since.

[@coinkidink9997]

Apparently he has 6 times the bone density of a normal Man.

[@peternagy-im4be]

He's got a powerful backside to boot 👢

[@EpicOsiris]

I believe a Wilder right hand will at least drop him

[@michaelhurdle5732]

At last someone speaking proper sense respect bro