Does Joy Come After Suffering, Or in It?

[@jessicamdenham]

This couldn’t have been a better episode for me today than this. I just found my best friend died last night. Joy does come before, during and after death. Thank you Jesus.

[@grizzthegreen4500]

Amen

[@ceraye7]

O Jessica, my heart weeps with yours. Praying for you and your best friend

[@jessicamdenham]

@@ceraye7 thank you so much! 🙏🏾

[@astheticlemon5312]

@@jessicamdenham I’m so so sorry for your loss, I pray that God comforts you in this time of grief, lots of love God bless🤍

[@maxaplin4204]

Good teaching. There is a kind of joy that can exist alongside suffering. And there is another kind of joy that cannot exist alongside suffering and that follows suffering. So suffering and joy for Christians are simultaneous in one sense and sequential in another sense.

[@sherrymoredock4457]

It's very sweet to cry to God because he wipes away all our tears!! You know he cares about you and he feels your pain and you get up from prayer refreshed!! Amen!! Thank you pastor John 🙏😊💕

[@williamcopeland6683]

YES.. THE ANSWER IS MOST DEFINITELY YES

[@ricklamb772]

Yes,joy can come in and through suffering,if your clinging to,and trusting inthe One who keeps you through all your trials .You never feel closer to God then when your suffering for Him ,in Him.In gratitude for the suffering His Son went through for us ,pick up your cross and follow me.

[@byron8578]

There's pleasure in persecution too when you are being persecuted for righteousness/ Christ sake.

[@unwmk]

It’s present in both!

[@factsbro1130]

This is so powerful

[@grizzthegreen4500]

I love the graphic

[@Debbi.O]

Hello, what type of suffering is this? Is it physical suffering from pain. Or is is suffering experienced from denying the flesh?

[@maxaplin4204]

I think both types of suffering would be relevant for the subject in this video, and other types as well.

[@suhartakundu4752]

Both most definitely, Rejecting the flesh is the suffering every believer should go through as Scripture claims all believers are suffering the same suffering of the suffering of the flesh. (Romans 5:3-5And that suffering is the best suffering because suffering produces perseverance, perseverance produces character, character produces hope.) Basically we turn more in Jesuslikeness. And indeed what a joy it is to die to sin and transform into the likeness of Jesus

[@Debbi.O]

@@maxaplin4204 Ah okay, thank you for your answer brother.

[@Debbi.O]

@@suhartakundu4752 WOW 🤩 thank you so much for this my friend! What a beautiful statement you’ve just made and very true. It’s comforting to know that the suffering of denying myself and picking up my cross is not bad but expected and in due season I will reap in Jesus name. Amen

[@astheticlemon5312]

@@suhartakundu4752 Amen, I really needed to hear this, Praise God! thank you and God bless

[@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive]

Amen 🙏🏾

[@ethnocentricfun991]

Amen

[@rgflowerwhite6731]

Weeping to Joy

[@almedina8995]

Is it correct to ask, how long does the night in life last? Any ideas? I need enlightenment. Thanks!

[@themorpheusproject]

I realize this answer is long delayed (I’ve only just discovered this video), but yes, it is a valid question. Unfortunately, there isn’t a definitive answer. The night may last for a single night, or a year, or even a lifetime. But we are assured that when we are taken home to dwell with the Lord, that night will give way to a day that never ends, when “death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away” (Rev. 21:4). Peace be with you, friend.

[@jimorison6159]

Let me get your answer--if a person breaks a law in the Bible, is that person automatically going to hell? What would happen to a person that caused this hell yet that person did not break the law in of itself? What would happen if the person that broke the law has not broken any law in years? What would happen then?

[@ckm2526]

If you sin (breaking God’s laws) you are going to hell. Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Since we all have broken God’s law (even if we did it one time) we are all going to hell. There is no work we can do to make it up. No amount of donations, no amount of helping the homeless, no amount of living right will save us. We are hopeless it would take a miracle for us to go to Heaven. God’s wrath and righteous judgment are on us. *BUT* even though we have disobeyed God, and even though we 100% deserve His judgement. He did this, in John 3:16 it says “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” As a righteous God He has to punish us because of the decisions WE made. But instead He willfully came and died the death we deserved and took the punishment we deserved. God is not only righteous, but He is loving. Not only is He loving He is love, and His love is infinite and He is patient. Believe in Jesus and repent of your sin. It is tough but Jesus will give you the strength to do it!✝️💖😁 If you want to chat message me on Instagram @ghwbi Nothing but love Jim!✝️💖🙏🏾😁

[@jhwx88]

Even without officially breaking any law in the Bible, every person by default is going to hell. Only by receiving the grace of God through Jesus Christ can I obtain salvation. Your subsequent question on whether the person who causes another to break the law (i.e. sin), or whether it makes a difference whether the person who eventually broke the law used to be a law abiding citizen is actually inconsequential because it majors on the minor issues. The fact remains that breaking the law, and I would now call it sin or sinning, is not just an action but a state of being. We are all sinful, regardless whether we tangibly break the law, cause someone else indirectly to break the law, or used to be a sweet nice person before eventually finding oneself at the wrong end of the law etc. In short, it doesn't matter what the sin committed that determines our eventual fate of hell, but our sinful state that already determines our eventual fate of hell. Only by humbly receiving into our hearts Jesus's redemptive work on the cross can we have salvation. My two cents worth. Others?

[@jimorison6159]

@@ckm2526 I like the answer but let’s be honest. There’s no way for a person to keep the law perpetually because the poor will always have poverty and will be tempted to take advantage, steal, rob and do anything he can to survive. I think humans created a living situation when it’s near impossible to choose heaven over hell.

[@williamcopeland6683]

We actually inherit corruption from our parents.. just watch three toddlers playing with two toys Just like those toddlers, you jim.. have too high opinion of man and to low an idea of the Creator finite creature is lower in holiness and perfection compared to INFINITE YHWH than.. say a grub worm is to a Boeing 747.. and the evidence of this being true is your statement that you hadn't sinned in a long time You've lost your moral compass brother That's why Jesus (GOD of Very Gods) is so precious to the regenerated soul.. even when we don't follow Perfection perfectly.. Jesus already did.. and Supernaturally transfers or imputed or credits His Performance to those who by faith grab on to it like the knot at the end of a rope dangling over the fiery abbiss

[@williamcopeland6683]

@UC9JSbHIJqY0osCFWsYuwhxg 👌.. there is no such thing as an atheist.. according to Romans.. just fools suppressing the Truth.. which is sin.. which why Jesus died.. which is why The Father was in Christ reconciling Himself to the world Like an Atom (adam) bomb.. all you do to make a nuclear explosion is continue to suppress the atom till it has no place else to go The difference between you and the toddler is knowledge.. you know just enough to be a danger to yourself and others..

[@toddyahushua7972]

3/7/11 From The Lord, Our God and Savior The Word of The Lord Spoken to Timothy For The Lord’s Little Flock, and For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear The kingdoms of men shall raise themselves up, though night has fallen; behold, out of deep darkness, the kingdoms of men shall rise and make themselves one by treason; by many deceits and false promises, by vanities and vain flatteries, by the heaping up of lies, shall they come together as one. They shall raise themselves up, boasting unity and peace, and safety from the hand of The Almighty, until their loftiness flies high above all kingdoms, from those of ancient times even to this day... YET THERE SHALL BE NO PEACE! Says The Lord. For I shall bring calamity in waves! Behold, the weight of My punishment shall increase by measure, bringing forth destruction without respite! Escape shall flee away, safety shall become a distant memory and no shelter shall be found, forcing the rebellious into the rocks, the mighty into the clefts of the rocks, and the kings of the earth into the caves of the mountains! From the least to the greatest, they shall all seek to hide themselves from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of The Lamb! Behold, the unity of the nations shall be eaten up, As the caterpillar devours the newly sprouted vine, As the worms beneath the ground eat up the roots!... All shall wither, until the fire comes To set the whole field ablaze!... By a spark and by a flame of fire, By a strike from roiling clouds, Shall the fire be kindled by My own hand!... Says The Lord. www.thevolumesoftruth.com/Treason

[@trustenbaker8766]

Trying to put a pin on when Joy comes? Are you able to grasp the Spirit, do you know where it goes? Does anyone? I hate video's like this. As if there was a formula for Joy. There isn't. It's a discovery between you and the Lord.

[@oswaldcobblepot502]

No and no. There is no joy in suffering and no joy in dealing with a God who refuses to guide his children when they call.

[@gamerz6297]

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