Does Losing Lead to Winning? An Analysis of the Winning Paradox in Sports

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Michael MacKelvie

Michael MacKelvie

Күн бұрын

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@banan9377
@banan9377 Жыл бұрын
In Sun Tzu's Art of War he said "Build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across." Meaning to never fully corner an enemy because a fleeing enemy is easier to kill than an enemy that is cornered fighting to the death. It's interesting how this still applies even in sports. Teams that are down (cornered) play better because they are "fighting to the death".
@joso7228
@joso7228 Жыл бұрын
Sun Tze is not implying 'to kill' the enemy but to let them 'escape' so we win the War as well as the Battle.
@MoralesCorner
@MoralesCorner Жыл бұрын
​@@joso7228I think both of your interpretations are correct
@erdemm17
@erdemm17 Жыл бұрын
Miyamoto Mushashi says hi.
@bigcatdog
@bigcatdog Жыл бұрын
Lol not the pistons
@rakuzan9148
@rakuzan9148 Жыл бұрын
pistons be like:
@meaning1875
@meaning1875 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad the algorithm gods lead me to this channel
@jmase19
@jmase19 Жыл бұрын
You’re not wrong
@theyoganath3073
@theyoganath3073 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Had to cancel hella thrash subs for a deece suggestion.
@andresviaud7209
@andresviaud7209 Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@llIlIIlIllIlCGlllllIlllllll
@llIlIIlIllIlCGlllllIlllllll Жыл бұрын
Real stuff
@chrisblau4221
@chrisblau4221 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely thinking the exact same thing
@ckq
@ckq Жыл бұрын
Paul George explained in his podcast. The teams that's winning doesn't make adjustments. The teams that's losing try harder and makes adjustments.
@ParaditeRs
@ParaditeRs Жыл бұрын
I don't think this is that much of a mystery. Seems obvious to me. Complacency versus desperation.
@ramzeezthamightygod
@ramzeezthamightygod Жыл бұрын
Joe mazzulla has been doing it lately, making adjustments from up ahead. He’s definitely a bit psycho but maybe that’s what it takes these days
@Captainpuntymidgets
@Captainpuntymidgets Жыл бұрын
I think its hard because people dont want to reduce it to caveman announcer jargon like "they just wanted it more" but when two teams are near the same level talent wise as most pro teams tend to be it can matter. @@ParaditeRs
@hirshja
@hirshja Жыл бұрын
​@@ramzeezthamightygodand man, do we Celtics fans love Bazooka Joe
@ramzeezthamightygod
@ramzeezthamightygod Жыл бұрын
@@hirshja we either love him or hate him.. but either way stick to your beliefs and don’t flip flop lollll. People get on his case for his timeouts but I don’t see other coaches around the league when their team leading by 15 calls a timeout the moment he sees stupid basketball being played… and they get back in the game to explode
@davis.cole17
@davis.cole17 Жыл бұрын
I believe this is the only channel that focuses solely on sports philosophy and marrying statistics and psychology. Please keep doing what you’re doing, it is appreciated.
@generaldiscernment
@generaldiscernment Жыл бұрын
This. On the way to being one of the best channels on the platform. Big fan already.
@michaelahurt
@michaelahurt Жыл бұрын
Go listen to the Thinking Basketball podcast. Ben Taylor is a cognitive scientist by trade and he's a data analyst so you get a similar blend of psychology, philosophy, analytics and film study. The KZbin videos are more straightforward, based on film study, but the podcast and book deal a lot with philosophical questions and challenge a lot of our assumptions about the game.
@DaDualityofMan
@DaDualityofMan Жыл бұрын
It's not the only one but yeah they are rare
@taylorism7787
@taylorism7787 3 ай бұрын
@@DaDualityofManCan you recommend others as good as this?
@KoalaKuddle
@KoalaKuddle Жыл бұрын
I think something worth mentioning is that the average person is risk-averse. And in a world where this is the tendency, it is to your advantage being a risk-taker. Also, the feeling of making a comeback is a sort of high and losing a lead makes you feel like you are an impostor. When there is this vast difference in emotions, while hard to measure, makes teams look like someone else is playing on the field or court.
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie Жыл бұрын
Yes. All this leads right into Prospect Theory…but in a strange way, we tend to be overconfident in many other realms (Dunning-Krueger). That relationship has always confused the living hell out of me - we are afraid of loss in many ways…yet overly confident and unafraid in shit we don’t understand…
@chendaddy
@chendaddy Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmackelvie Then the ideal situation is to be unaware of how difficult and strenuous an undertaking will be while diving headfirst into it with full confidence. Otherwise we either never try or go in so tentatively that we sabotage our own chances of success. I think it explains why so many of the most successful people in the world are not particularly self-aware or self-conscious.
@protectdavidchasetaylor2144
@protectdavidchasetaylor2144 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmackelvieI think risk aversion in athletes is an example of an expert fearing a realistic outcome. People who are on the ignorant side of the dunning Krueger effect don’t know the outcome that they have to be afraid of. They are unaware of the risk. That’s why confidence drops off so fast.
@SamBattis
@SamBattis Жыл бұрын
For whatever reason, we're not afraid enough of what we don't know, and too afraid of what we do know.
@Hilight277
@Hilight277 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmackelvielike how doctors and professors feel they still have a lot to learn about their subject while keyboard warriors believe they can lecture them on the same thing.
@ckq
@ckq Жыл бұрын
So it's a fact that teams who are ahead sacrifice points for less variance. There's essentially 2 possibile conclusions: 1. This sacrifice is premature and hurts a teams chance of winning 2. It is a smart sacrifice and increases a team's chance of winning at the cost of points
@bohanxu6125
@bohanxu6125 Жыл бұрын
exactly. the youtuber should have addressed the 2. you said Suppose a team is in the lead by 10 with only 1 minute on the clock, the winning team should chose to decease pace of the game (less efficient offense on average, but also decrease variance by decreasing the amount of possessions). When your team is winning by 10, you should be making plays that are -2 on average but with + or - 5 in variation... over making plays that are +2 on average but with + or - 15 in variation.
@MDH16477
@MDH16477 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Recommend watching the AlphaGo documentary on AI rescinding points differential as a proxy for winning the game.
@aidenjames5244
@aidenjames5244 Жыл бұрын
@@bohanxu6125he did address that exactly he said he wasn’t talking ab end of game scenarios
@merrylderrickson3147
@merrylderrickson3147 Жыл бұрын
i think it might be somewhere right between those two
@adamtash2891
@adamtash2891 Жыл бұрын
sacrificing points is idiotic...but its great for ratings dont ever forget this is a bisness......which profits more the more people stay tuned in...blowouts kill rating and profits
@RyanAustinDean
@RyanAustinDean Жыл бұрын
This is the most brilliant sports channel in all of media - not just KZbin. I’m blown away by the insight and quality, and I’m clearly not alone.
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan! We put a lot of work into it…comments like this provide a little more fuel during those late nights…
@jkfan2011
@jkfan2011 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmackelvie what i know is creating a gmail account that comes with a youtube account doesnt make you a youtuber, if you really put alot of work on your craft, it will show... nothing really shows here, just click bait. do us a favor and delete the gmail account (you get what i mean) and save us a huge favor so you wont show up on our suggested videos. think of it as decluttering youtube and the internet. thanks!
@MoralesCorner
@MoralesCorner Жыл бұрын
You can tell just by the level of the comments. Been scrolling a bit and haven't seen a single fight or insult yet. Looks like a safe space to talk 😂
@MoralesCorner
@MoralesCorner Жыл бұрын
​@@jkfan2011lol do you have a personal problem with this dude or you're just mentally challenged?
@MasonGray-of2ly
@MasonGray-of2ly Жыл бұрын
“Even at the highest level, risk averse is an oxymoron” Excellent video
@MDH16477
@MDH16477 Жыл бұрын
Incorrect. The AlphaGo documentary proved that points differential isn’t an accurate proxy for percentage chance of winning the game
@Eidenhoek
@Eidenhoek Жыл бұрын
@@MDH16477 Where is that?
@MrRumcajs1000
@MrRumcajs1000 Жыл бұрын
It sounds nice but just confuses two meanings of the word 'risk'.
@cmfrtblynmb02
@cmfrtblynmb02 Жыл бұрын
I don't agree with that part. Freezing or not doing anything is not being risk averse. It is a completely different thing. Risk averse is not oxymoron. He meant to say removing risk is oxymoron. Risk averseness is not about that. I am a risk manager at a bank, not doing any trade is not the definition of risk averseness.
@JwebGuru
@JwebGuru 11 ай бұрын
@@MDH16477 It doesn't work that way in Go because the point system for games like Go is somewhat arbitrary due to the nature of the game. In games where the point system determines the game's winner, point differential being an accurate proxy for percentage chance of winning the game is *almost* universally true--it doesn't explain ALL of the variance but it explains most of it.
@crassbusinessman3122
@crassbusinessman3122 Жыл бұрын
Nailed it right on the head. There are so many dualities between life and basketball. I've often had the belief that its much harder to get to stellar from average than it is to get from awful to stellar because the drive just isnt as prevalent. In other words, if the suck doesnt suck enough, there's not enough motivation to change. It seems this video kind of reinforces that. Phenomenal video yet again, please keep this up.
@treysonmcgrady4750
@treysonmcgrady4750 10 ай бұрын
Psychology is nuts and we’re irrational creatures. So fascinating
@CleverAccountName303
@CleverAccountName303 Жыл бұрын
So many factors: One not mentioned: officiating, allowing more aggressive play by losing team, "not piling on," tendency to avoid calling "insignificant" fouls Others mentioned or alluded to: *Risk adverse (suboptimal) strategy by the winning team *Regression to the mean by both teams *Increased effort by losing team *Less effort) by winning team *Major Strategy changes ("adjustments" "desperation") by the losing team *Playing looser - losing team *Playing tighter - winning team Very interesting topic
@MrRumcajs1000
@MrRumcajs1000 Жыл бұрын
regression to the mean doesn't mean a comeback. It seems to be a popular misunderstanding of statistics, it's the gambler's fallacy to think so.
@CleverAccountName303
@CleverAccountName303 Жыл бұрын
@@MrRumcajs1000in many (most?) cases where there is a much bigger point differential than expected, it is because one team is outshooting their average while the other team is under performing their average. In that super common example, regression to the mean is exactly the correct term.
@MrRumcajs1000
@MrRumcajs1000 Жыл бұрын
@@CleverAccountName303 I said regression to the mean doesn't explain a comeback. It would only explain that the lead stops growing disproportionally. You're not addressing this
@CleverAccountName303
@CleverAccountName303 Жыл бұрын
@@MrRumcajs1000 I never Said the word comeback. The phenomenon (early success leads to later underperformance and vice versa for the other team) also happens when the better team is down early, in which case both teams playing average for the rest of the game would get you your comeback.
@MrRumcajs1000
@MrRumcajs1000 Жыл бұрын
​@@CleverAccountName303 the whole video talks about the effect of losing on performance and is based on data adjusted for the point spread. Regression to the mean is also specifically shown around 2:45 as an example of what this rubberband effect is not (it's more than that). Regression to the mean is not a factor of this effect. Yes, the losing team can catch up as an effect of this. It can also fall back more. It doesn't make or explain teams performing better on average when they're losing.
@partysnax1984
@partysnax1984 Жыл бұрын
This was excellent! I have been loving your basketball content. Basketball has so much room to apply statistics, and so many seemingly unanswerable questions. Keep up the great work.
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@parkerwells2485
@parkerwells2485 Жыл бұрын
This is the best sports content channel out there right now. And I mean even better than the ones that are televised, sponsored, and heavily promoted. Your channel deserves so much more attention. Please keep up the good work!
@lcahmed
@lcahmed 3 ай бұрын
KZbin recommended one of your other videos to me, and I am HOOKED. Great content, keep up the great work!
@XeroTheLegend
@XeroTheLegend Жыл бұрын
There is this saying: "Two goals is the worse lead in hockey". The amount of two-goal comback, 3-1 -> 4-3, is pretty staggering
@merimbilalic6532
@merimbilalic6532 Жыл бұрын
more time for comeback?! probably doesn't explain all the difference, but certainly a good amount.
@vulcanraven9701
@vulcanraven9701 Жыл бұрын
A similar thing happens in NFL with 10 point leads. The team that's ahead plays it safe on offense & punts. Other team scores. Its a 3pts game, leading team still worried about time, makes soft decisions, punts. Other team scores. Wins.
@jotalucas76
@jotalucas76 Жыл бұрын
This video gave me chills from start to finish, ain't no damn way I'm not subscribing to this channel
@ConnorMack-mc7df
@ConnorMack-mc7df Жыл бұрын
"The balance of thinking and doing". You combined an entertaining basketball video with some inspiration for the viewer which is really cool. Thanks for the vid!
@LearAndrew
@LearAndrew Жыл бұрын
One of the highest quality and insightful channels out there!
@tconboy23
@tconboy23 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. The production and content quality are 10/10, and the way you are able to weave in anecdotes from your own experience give the videos a more personal feel and really add to the entertainment value.
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie Жыл бұрын
Thank you! The writing takes time, but it’s my favorite part…
@coleklaassen9427
@coleklaassen9427 Жыл бұрын
Agreed with this comment, this video felt great@@michaelmackelvie
@leapsaw
@leapsaw Жыл бұрын
The content, editing, pacing. I enjoyed this video so much. I subscribed so fast !!
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@merrylderrickson3147
@merrylderrickson3147 Жыл бұрын
until Vegas corrected for it, the best bet you could make was that a Heavily Favored Team playing on the road would not cover the spread. Exactly for the reasons you list here. The home team's tenacity goes up and their focus rises, not just as a function of competitiveness, but also to not disgrace themselves in front of their own fans. It is also likely they know the spread and want to bust it - a small victory in itself
@wbpreston
@wbpreston Жыл бұрын
This is one of the greatest videos I've ever seen.
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@LakerFan
@LakerFan Жыл бұрын
your quality and level of thinking is great man! keep at it
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Much appreciated
@HighStakesBBall
@HighStakesBBall 11 ай бұрын
The depth of analysis, production quality, and subtle comedy...... This is better than ESPN 30 For 30. Keep up the good work, you deserve huge views Mike!
@josephchambers4509
@josephchambers4509 Жыл бұрын
Been loving the last few videos! Subscribed
@SwaggyDawggy
@SwaggyDawggy Жыл бұрын
1:38 This is what it feels like to be an Auburn fan every single day
@adambarrack
@adambarrack Жыл бұрын
This channel deserves more attention
@geordiejones5618
@geordiejones5618 Жыл бұрын
If I could go and redo school, I would wanna do an extensive study on the psychology of defensive effort across team sports. That locked in effort. It's no comtroversy to say thay offensive skill is both valued higher and seen as the more challenging to both acquire and maintain, but there's something about defense that brings out the rawest form of every athlete. The pure DESPERATION that you see players and teams feel and use as extra energy is endlessly fascinating to me and I wish I'd noticed it as a kid.
@masonsmith9241
@masonsmith9241 Жыл бұрын
What’s stopping you from learning in your own time i.e books/study’s?
@ANITA.WYN.
@ANITA.WYN. Жыл бұрын
especially in soccer
@EnglebertHumperdinck
@EnglebertHumperdinck 10 ай бұрын
5:43 3 isn't 150% more than 2, it's 50% more than 2.
@stinkyuhoh999
@stinkyuhoh999 Жыл бұрын
I can’t lie, you are one of my favorite new channels right now. You gave such insights and a fresh kind of content into the NBA youtube scene. Keep going and take care bro
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Much appreciated…
@willpear
@willpear Жыл бұрын
Wow, I am so glad that algorthrim led me to your channel. Your content is amazing! Can't wait to see how big of an audience you grow in the future. Keep up the good work.
@ZacharyABridges
@ZacharyABridges 11 ай бұрын
Risk of paralysis. Needed to hear that. Thank you
@martijn606
@martijn606 Жыл бұрын
Sorry guys, but losing probably does NOT lead to winning. For a more complete picture, you may want to take a look at the paper "Does Losing Lead to Winning? An Empirical Analysis for Four Sports". I guess Michael is casually referring to that one around 12:00. Lots of data, and a relatively precise null effect.
@TwowheeledadventureVT
@TwowheeledadventureVT 11 ай бұрын
I love these unique basketball videos! Well done.
@mikaanuba659
@mikaanuba659 Жыл бұрын
Back at it with another awesome video. Keep up the great work Michael!
@alexvandierendonck3317
@alexvandierendonck3317 10 ай бұрын
This explains why team May play down or play up to competition
@TheShepdawg9
@TheShepdawg9 Жыл бұрын
Incredibly well illustrated points. I've been trying to articulate this phenomenon for years. I havent crunched the numbers acutely, but the prevent defence in the NFL has done more harm than good IMO. Far too many times there are teams that go 75 yards in 45 seconds, 15 yards at a time due to such loose defensive play calling.
@JMill77
@JMill77 Жыл бұрын
I don't even watch the NBA anymore and I still love your vids bro, keep it up
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie Жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh!
@justinburow892
@justinburow892 Жыл бұрын
you’ve been killing it with the sports content.
@ronb233
@ronb233 Жыл бұрын
Love the content, you're easily one of the best right now
@infinty7409
@infinty7409 Жыл бұрын
Just saw the Grizzlies going from down 20 to after ja coming back after the 25 game suspension hitting a buzzer beater on the Pelicans and after that the warriors won in OT down 14 after curry hit a dagger 3 on Boston what a textbook style comback
@Eli-mb9uo
@Eli-mb9uo Жыл бұрын
would love to see a video on how momentum affects the way a team plays and i believe this can best be analyzed in college sports. Videos are incredible though keep up the great work!
@-bacon_bacon-
@-bacon_bacon- 9 ай бұрын
The best team and player who is the best in the clutch and comebacks is hands down - THE NUGGETS. And it is really not even close. There’s a reason why they comebacks down 3-1 twice, so many 20 point comeback wins. They just play better in the clutch, its crazy
@abdullahaanawaleh
@abdullahaanawaleh 11 ай бұрын
Very high quality of production. Subscibed. Lookinh forward to more.
@a0kca1p
@a0kca1p Жыл бұрын
I think referees play a role in this phenomenon as well. When one team is behind, it can be easy to subconsciously give marginal calls to them to make the game more competitive.
@jamesknapp64
@jamesknapp64 11 ай бұрын
Agreed so much here as an official
@garrettgodfrey2762
@garrettgodfrey2762 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video. Subscribed!
@nts4906
@nts4906 Жыл бұрын
Strategy happens in turns. You adjust to the opponent and then the opponent adjusts to you. If you get used to winning a certain way, it will always become harder to win that way over time as opponents learn your strategy and adjust.
@robertsmithson4802
@robertsmithson4802 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the words of Marcelo Bielsa, (watch?v=IiyvmXsBhC4) who cut through the noise of this exact debate in soccer more clearly than anyone had before: "it's an error to think that in order to maintain a lead you should do the opposite of what you did to obtain it". Bielsa was asked why his Leeds team, when winning 4-1, chose not to defend closer to their own goal and put men behind the ball (the standard form of 'risk averse play' in soccer). Bielsa instead chose to maintain his standard ultra attacking approach and defended his stance thus. When this press conference went viral the entirety of football twitter lost its mind saying, essentially, 'it sounds so obvious when you put it like that!'. Or as a French soccer coach I know put it, playing with more defenders doesn't mean you defend better, it means you defend more.
@DoCiNSaNiTy1
@DoCiNSaNiTy1 Жыл бұрын
A banger as always
@jmase19
@jmase19 Жыл бұрын
Another one
@ezell704
@ezell704 Жыл бұрын
I’ve discussed this with so many people and nobody ever noticed that “comebacks” almost always feel inevitable
@morobamber3090
@morobamber3090 Жыл бұрын
Holy hell you played for UAA. I ski race for them currently. That’s wild
@jessiesteele2675
@jessiesteele2675 11 ай бұрын
Man this was an outstanding video. Great work! Will certainly subscribe
@diggyj8874
@diggyj8874 Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel from the algorithm recommending this vid, was an awesome video to watch as a big basketball fan
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Much appreciated
@keithdubose2150
@keithdubose2150 Жыл бұрын
One aspect that deserves study. What created the early point differential in the first place.. for example if a hit 100 % of their 3 point shots early.. and created a double digit lead, it's very unlikely they can continue hitting 100% .. and the lead shrink as they 'come back to earth' So it may not be the team with the lead changed play calling .. but the odds catches up with them.
@DaDualityofMan
@DaDualityofMan Жыл бұрын
Rubberbanding is def a deliberate thing in many video games
@Gjoa_DYEL
@Gjoa_DYEL 10 ай бұрын
Great vid bro, only bad outcome is it helps me to rationalize betting on losing team 😭
@kashifkarim932
@kashifkarim932 Жыл бұрын
Dude, I just wanted to tell you that your content is absolutely incredible. Keep going man, you just earned a loyal subscriber!!!!!!
@javigar133
@javigar133 Жыл бұрын
Amazing Channel! I just wish you uploaded more content, terrific work!
@8teenOfficial
@8teenOfficial Жыл бұрын
Always back with a banger
@sethwarner6713
@sethwarner6713 11 ай бұрын
These videos are so good - I love how they answer some really interesting questions about sport as well as providing a broader lesson about life
@fkm512
@fkm512 Жыл бұрын
Look forward to seeing this channels sub count sky rocket, love the effort put in to these videos
@FavorableNerd
@FavorableNerd Жыл бұрын
Phenomal video, subscribed!
@exor6100
@exor6100 Жыл бұрын
The quality and work put into this video is staggering and evident. You deserve more attention and I’m sure you will get it soon.
@vf00
@vf00 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly why sports (and perhaps war) is the truest exhibition of the human spirit. It is not a monochromatic battlefield in which opposing sides behave rationally, like bespoke computer systems with predictable movements and patterns. Rather, it is a dizzying display of highs and lows, of championing from the darkest depths and falling from unchallengeable heights. Sports capture the unthinkable; they are perhaps the most potent concentration of our animalistic, wild propensity to defy odds and desires in the name of ego.
@Wowreally42
@Wowreally42 11 ай бұрын
Really solid content here. Glad this was recommended! This is what KZbin is about
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 11 ай бұрын
Thanks man! Much appreciated...
@marcelszukalski4368
@marcelszukalski4368 Жыл бұрын
fantastic vid, wish content like this had a passageway into the algorithm, its as good as it gets on yt.
@Trying_trying
@Trying_trying Жыл бұрын
This channel is super good 👍🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 1st time I’ve come across it.
@bhanning
@bhanning Жыл бұрын
incredibly well done. shooting, editing, sound design, writing, storytelling. it all had me hooked.
@VelhaGuardaTricolor
@VelhaGuardaTricolor Жыл бұрын
It is a very simple and natural psychological pattern. When you are winning with ease, you relax and don't push as hard, simply bc your brain tells you, you don't need to. ( The Tortoise and the Hare ) It is a correct assumption. Nevertheless your opponent has pride and nothing to lose. A very powerful combination in the chemistry of life. So the whole team starts to play extra hard to at least show some self respect. Losing is OK, being demolished isn't. But then what happens? The deficit that was 30 points goes down to 20 The team ahead feels like:"Sure they are making an effort not to look bad, but we took our foot off of the accelerator and that is why they cut 10 points from the lead". And therefore keep relaxed on the certainty they are the superior team and have it under control. the trailing side at this point, gathers momentum and starts believing they are not that bad and start hitting a groove and a team cohesion that just makes them stronger When the lead gets cut to 10 points, the winning team starts to panic, leading to disarray and finger pointing, while the losing side is full steam blasting and now truly believe they can come back. The team ahead sees that and thinks, oh f**k, what have we done. The trailing side sees that and thinks, oh yeah baby, fear us, we are coming to get you! That creates a downward spiral for the team ahead while creates a upwards spiral to the team behind. If you don't have a superstar with a ton of wisdom that knows how to disrupt this with cool, calm and collected plays to curb their enthusiasm, then the come back is a matter of the clock has enough minutes.
@rjt201
@rjt201 6 ай бұрын
Me and my little brother were at the Cavs Celtics game this season when Dean Wade unleashed hell from 3 in the last quarter and got us the win by 1 point. Trust me, when we were down by 20 something with 8 minutes left and falling, my brother was falling asleep asking to leave and even I wasn't feeling any kind of comeback in sight. And then that man started putting them down, I started yelling, my brother is suddenly awake and I'm telling him we're coming back, the arena is on their feet. It was fantastic.
@NiX_xD
@NiX_xD Жыл бұрын
Quality of the video goes crazyyy
@PlayWithHeadHunter9
@PlayWithHeadHunter9 11 ай бұрын
So happy the algorithm has brought me to this channel, it´s so interesting
@JimandEd11
@JimandEd11 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Really enjoyed this so thanks!
@yawnberg
@yawnberg Жыл бұрын
This effect is intentionally built into videogames to make games more exciting by artificially balancing competition. Midway (the makers of NBA Jam) were notorious for it and Mario Kart famously distributes power-up items in a way to help losing players make a comeback.
@ey1615
@ey1615 Жыл бұрын
There is also the comeback mechanic "rage art" in Tekken 7 that let's players use something comparable to an "ultimate attack" when they are close to dying.
@PTFVBVB
@PTFVBVB 11 ай бұрын
Best lesson I learned from a couple great coaches in little league was "play like you're behind". No matter the score, the opponet was up by 2 runs, you've got work to do, and it's achievable.
@nicholassegarra1161
@nicholassegarra1161 9 ай бұрын
this channel is amazing, been binging your videos all day
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Nicholas!
@Prince_Luci
@Prince_Luci Жыл бұрын
As a suburban kid from America, the best advice my New Zealand soccer coach would yell at us every game, “DONT JUST KICK IT!” Wildly more useful than you’d imagine. Especially at that age you see the goal and you have the ball you’re dumbass little mind would try to launch it from midfield like you’re playing in the FIFA World Cup or some other nonsense you’ve never practiced, trained for, or even jokingly attempted, Inevitably accomplishing nothing. Don’t just kick it was a great focuser. It was essentially “think about what you’re doing and make a better decision.” But concisely yelled in a kiwi accent. Honestly we were never good enough to play risky or risk averse. But i found this video super compelling anyways.
@AMINOMMA
@AMINOMMA Жыл бұрын
Your channel is actually amazing, some of the most insightful pieces on sports I've seen, and especially interesting since it tends to look at issues more globally rather than very specific. Keep up the good work and I'm sure at some point you can reach a million subscribers!
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@SchimShady12
@SchimShady12 Жыл бұрын
This video was world view changing for me. I can't imagine the number of times I'll reference and share this going forward. As a sports fan, coach, leader, etc. it's so applicable
@20775046
@20775046 Жыл бұрын
Quickly becoming a favorite channel! I wanna see someone breakdown the true dollar value of a player
@connorbrown1603
@connorbrown1603 11 ай бұрын
WE NEED MORE. Please make more videos, more often 😅 highest quality content and most interesting subject matter of any channel on KZbin. (Obviously I know that your content can’t just be pumped out by the day, it takes time to prepare and explain such unique and interesting concepts.) But man. This is good. Thanks for awesome videos
@mraBJJ33
@mraBJJ33 Жыл бұрын
Winning teams tend to go into "lead managment" mode until its too late and the losing team has built up some momentum and therefore confidence. Im a rockets fan and back when harden was on the team i saw it happen all the time, we would come out hot a build a decently comfortable lead, the offense would take their foot off the gas and try to use up more clock per possession, and all the while the other teams would keep grinding and putting together efficient possessions and the lead would dwindle. Then once the lead actually changes hands the team that had the lead has already started playing with desperation to cling to the lead they earned.
@giovanniebrady966
@giovanniebrady966 11 ай бұрын
This channel man, wow, wow, wow, I love sports, mostly a football (soccer guy) but I watch the NBA and American Football and F1 and Track and Field (I am 🇯🇲). Keep up the good work, I like the deeper level from which you analyze things.
@gefahrg.mcgefahr1882
@gefahrg.mcgefahr1882 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I wish someone did an explanation of the effect for football. As I would guess it has a slightly different form in a low-scoring game. Basically high posession time is the desired tactic of most coaches, both in the pros and below. And with every goal counting as one goal you can‘t easily choose between efficient offense and inefficient offense.
@ckq
@ckq Жыл бұрын
Football is more obvious. Teams clearly try to manage a lead by running more and teams that need a score become more aggressive and better. They play prevent defenses.
@footballworld1651
@footballworld1651 Жыл бұрын
This content is magical. Love it
@ExactlyAndy
@ExactlyAndy Жыл бұрын
Underrated channel. Keep growing in the sports niche man. These videos are awesome.
@AustinMulkaMusic
@AustinMulkaMusic Жыл бұрын
Adding to the anomalies in this multi-faceted phenomenon, I believe is the role of “pressure” in evoking a sense of urgency. When I was in college, I would try so hard to get papers done early. However, no matter how hard I tried, the bulk of my writing seemed to occur as the timeline was approaching. I couldn’t “reproduce” a sense of urgency until it happened. Another thing that is clearly going on, and I’m going to assume you bring this up as I’m currently only half way through the video, is that teams that are behind are actively trying to score as quickly as possible. Which leads to shots off of momentum and flow and shots that are less thought out. I’ve noticed in my personal experience with basketball, that I have an involuntary shot and a voluntary shot. Think of it like breathing-sometimes, you are breathing involuntarily without thinking about it-and other times, you are consciously thinking about breathing. When I am consciously thinking about my shot, there is less of an involuntary muscle memory. In high pressure games, it can be easier to stop thinking and have your shot become involuntary.
@riccracc6547
@riccracc6547 Жыл бұрын
Unbelievably great youtube channel and vid. Cant wait for the day you'll inevitably hit 1M subs
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Much appreciated
@johnleon4065
@johnleon4065 11 ай бұрын
one of the best vidoes ive watched on here
@weebleschneeble9368
@weebleschneeble9368 3 ай бұрын
This video has been out awhile so idk if you will see this. But Ive been wondering about what players play better from ahead or behind or are immune to the score. Pretty much an advanced clutch measurement for the whole game. You would crush this type of analysis.
@barimvp897
@barimvp897 9 ай бұрын
I think it boils down to this simple aspect of winning and losing. When losing you clearly know what you need to do to win or what you need to fix. When you are winning you have no clear path besides keep doing what you’re doing. After playing football it feels more clear imo because halftime is pretty much dictated by whether you are losing or winning. The talks were night and day compared to when we were losing. When winning, its more quiet, more resting even. When losing its nonstop communication the team just felt more alive and ready to attack the half.
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. Жыл бұрын
This is like Thinking Basketball and Jimmy Highroller in many of the best ways
@casualstone920
@casualstone920 Жыл бұрын
Wow, “risk aversion strategy might lead you to dealing with more risk” 🤯 It’s mind-blowing to think about it.
@kahlercards5514
@kahlercards5514 Жыл бұрын
One of the best channels on the earth
@malaven11
@malaven11 11 ай бұрын
A few nits to pick here, but obviously very well put together. Comebacks don't happen "because" of the rubber band effect, the rubber band effect is our name for a recognized trend, which is "caused" (as correctly posited later in the video) by various conditions and events.
@andrrrrrray
@andrrrrrray Жыл бұрын
Great job. I think this video is not only about sports or basketball, it's about our life.
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie Жыл бұрын
BALL IS LIFE
@Mission00I
@Mission00I Жыл бұрын
No idea how I came across this video, but what a video. Very well made and you have my Sub, look forward to delving through your past videos!
@eliverse9732
@eliverse9732 Жыл бұрын
What a great video. All around, really really good.
@nick-kqi
@nick-kqi 2 ай бұрын
Your Minnesota comes out during this outro! Interesting video, thanks
@richardpc917
@richardpc917 Жыл бұрын
Love the application of Prospect theory in sports!
@danimalman3
@danimalman3 Жыл бұрын
You went to UAA? I'm from alaska. I saw you play at the great alaska shootout without even realizing it.
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