Does Mixing Salt & Yeast Have a Negative Effect on Fermentation?

Does salt actually harm yeast? Will mixing them make your bread not rise or rise too slowly? The answer to both of those questions is - no. If you have watched any of my videos you would have noticed that I always mix my dough in pretty much the same order - liquid, yeast, salt, other ingredients like sugar, etc., then mix to dissolve fully, and only add the flour last before mixing to a dough.
I never questioned this method as this is the way I was taught in the first and only baking class I ever attended. It worked there, so why would I change it, right? And that must be the issue with this misconception - a beginner is shown or told something, and they believe it because someone who knows better than them said it.
Fortunately, I had a good teacher who set me on the right track from the get-go. And because I never encountered any issues, I simply thought that this was common practice. Also, mixing dough this way makes the most sense to me as all ingredients are fully dissolved before kneading.
You can find a video on my channel in which I show and explain exactly how salt affects bread dough and fermentation, so I will not go over it again here. But in short - salt slows down fermentation and helps with controlling it. It draws moisture though the cell walls of yeast essentially dehydrating it through osmosis. This is a necessary evil since a controlled fermentation is what we need when making bread.
Saying that, the simple act of mixing salt and yeast in water does not cause such extreme osmosis that the yeast gets dehydrated and dies instantly. Ok, if you’d mix an unreasonably large amount of salt with yeast and leave them to sit together for an unreasonably long time, then perhaps. But we are making bread and we do not use more than 2.5% salt in any recipe, so we should not encounter any issues.
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[@ChainBaker]

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[@mandiigraham1596]

The most practical no nonsense baking channel on you tube.

[@deenyc1049]

This is like the mythbusters of baking. Recipes are great, education is better.

[@PeteFindsObscureStuff]

I always mix yeast and salt directly into water before adding the flour. A number of FB baking groups I am a member of seem to lose their minds when I mention it with the old "salt kills yeast" nonsense. Now you've proved it. I'll include a link to this video in future. Cheers

[@fatima69612]

So you mean we can add slat and yeast together to knead dough?

[@mazadan]

Do you use fresh or dried. Because i have found in my 50 plus years of baking salt will rupture the cells of fresh yeast

[@fatima69612]

@@mazadan I use instead yeast to make (Asian's roti)

[@fatima69612]

I'm a simple house wife I have a question What should be the range of stove flame ( low, medium, medium high or high ) for cooking indian fermented bread? Please guide

[@Foodgeek]

It seems many of us baking KZbinrs have dispelled this myth separately many times, but the myth seems to live on :) BakeWithJack even poured salt directly onto fresh yeast. No salt doesn't kill yeast. Nothing really kills yeast except heat :)

[@ChainBaker]

Some myths just won't die 😄 It's fun to debunk them though! Nice to see you here btw. I watched your videos way before I decided to start my channel. Cheers!

[@AIdle42]

We dont see much different in a small sample, but in mass production we may find the different.

[@ChainBaker]

Perhaps. But there is also the fact that a larger amount of dough ferments faster, so I would think that it should affect it even less 🤔

[@Foodgeek]

@@ChainBaker I agree. I'd love to see someone do a large scale experiment so we could confirm it :)

[@mystique5113]

Please does oil kill yeast?

[@ambrosewetherbee8301]

It's funny how despite numerous studies dating back over a decade ago confirming that salt has negligible impact on yeast activity that people still believe that "salt kills yeast". It's like when people say that searing meat "seals in juices". Salt's impact on gluten formation rather than yeast activity should be what bakers are concerned with.

[@peterweeds4682]

Yes, or that MSG is bad for you.

[@peterweeds4682]

Hmmm. Wonder what impact MSG would have on bread instead of salt....

[@ambrosewetherbee8301]

@@peterweeds4682 I haven't come across any reliable testing of replacing salt with MSG in dough but I suspect that without chloride, which is the main reason for salt's affect on gluten development in dough, the dough would be more slack. Also, MSG lacks salt's hygroscopic property so the hydration of the dough would be affected as well. Edit: Additionally, a dough with salt replaced by MSG would ferment more rapidly.

[@patrikSMD]

It‘s always good to get rid of those old traditions or myths by showing the doubters one simple solution: think before you just repeat anything you have been told! Keep on baking 🍞👍🏼😉

[@jimipage69]

I have to admit I was surprised at the 5min one. I was sure it wouldn’t rise as fast. You’ve convinced me. I won’t be waiting to add the salt anymore. I always found it really annoying to do but thought it was helping haha. Thanks for this video.

[@giantpunda2911]

This highlights the problem with a lot of culinary traditions - few people ever question whether what seems to be "common knowledge" is just because some head chef said so and you just blindly followed or because it's actually true. Same reason why people get laughed at nowadays when they say to sear the steak to seal in the juices or don't let water touch mushrooms and waste time brushing off the dirt.

[@mikey19608]

Martin from King Arthur baking says it's a myth, I believed him and now you just proved it. As always, excellent presentation and experiment to add to your library.

[@ryanbarnard934]

I feel like these experiments are 300-3000 years overdue...kudos man. Great channel

[@gustavorlore]

There is nothing like hard core, actual, seen it, felt it, taste it experience. Thank you

[@mysticshadow425]

Thank you answering this controversial topic. I am about to begin my journey into the pizza making art and this topic keeps coming up, it had me extremely confused to what the real world application was. I am glad you answered it for us with 🙏🏼👨🏻‍🍳

[@acmaras]

Thank you, teacher! You answered one of my nagging questions. My kitchen here in Joliet, IL tends to be cold so I've been proofing my yeast every time and worrying about when to mix in the salt. You've again made my baking easier.

[@pkguy3]

Same here. What I do is just turn the oven on for about 1 minute or so and shut it off then place my dough in there to rise

[@deborahwybou4285]

Having baked bread for many many years including sourdough I was quite taken aback about all the hype on salt destroying yeast and/or sourdough. I never had a problem. Thank you for clearly clarifying it.

[@flickeringcandle]

Thank you! i’m in Kansas and I accidentally included the salt with the yeast in my poolish this morning! So, i was worried and found your video, I’m relieved now. In the United States, Nutella is sold in bad plastic containers. I would buy Nutella just to get those great little jars if I could here.

[@philip6502]

Nicely done, Charlie. Doing the second experiment really nailed it. And... I'm glad you mentioned the Flickr group. 💯

[@LocrianDorian]

Awesome video, dude, I was sure this was just old wives' tale hogwash, I really enjoy your channel, keep it up!

[@hansenmarc]

I love learning from sourdough experiments, especially when they dispel common myths. Thank you for sharing your results!

[@wolfgangdallmann943]

Thank you for clarifying this once and for all.

[@MrAlFuture]

Nice experiment. Thanks!

[@karlie7]

I love this experiment! Thanks for making the video

[@johnNJ4024]

Another informative and educational video. Fantastic!!!

[@razzberrylogic]

Spoiler Alert! If you have been watching any of the 200+ other videos on this channel, you knew what the result would be. Great video as usual!

[@PoopBoss]

Man, thank you so much for your consistency and controlled test groups, this is something I’d expect to search online and find no real results! Keep up the great work!

[@alainduchesneau4265]

Always excelent information and pertinent. Thanks

[@WarriorVictoria]

Thank you I always learn so much from your channel.

[@blaser80]

I've always put the salt and yeast in together, even when using less yeast when trying out the no knead method. Never had an issue with fermentation. I would guess you'd need excessive amounts of salt to hinder the yeast from doing its job, but who wants excessively salty bread?

[@CALIBA88]

ppl that like beer.

[@ChainBaker]

😄👍

[@allborosnyc4544]

Nice detailed video. I mix all dry ingredients (flour, salt, yeast, sugar) together then add water and mix. It comes out beautiful!!

[@Y.o.T.]

This is the correct answer

[@mystique5113]

I so love your videos. They make things so simple and very effectively shutdown arguments. Well done.

[@peterweeds4682]

Myth buster extraordinaire. Once again, you are a great Baker and teacher. Keep it up!

[@akeats4]

Absolutely fascinating. The lengths i have gone to to protect the yeast from the salt... thanks for these experiments!!

[@MrWnw]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us

[@torsteinv34]

Thank you for this. There's so much repeated misinformation out there on blogs, just repeating the same myths. Thank you for busting this one!

[@arnievergara4273]

Another great content Charlie! 👍🏻

[@JEEROFUKU]

Being the «mixing salt and yeast together in water, before adding the flour» bloke myself, I’m truly nope that with your clear and unbiased tests you’ll finally put the fat dot at the end of any dispute about this particular matter^^Thank you very much for your time, good sir🤝ATB🙏🏻🍀🌱🥖🍞

[@shoogeveen]

I'm happy you clarified that you played the timelapse in reverse, I thought the dough was being really weird :))))))

[@ChainBaker]

😄

[@TwilightStorm]

Perfect timing on this video. I forgot salt and double mixed. I was wondering why the first rise was so disappointing. 👍

[@kevinu.k.7042]

Ah, 0:38 - The classic intro to the three bowl yeast trick. It gave me a smile. Great proof. Thanks :)

[@freetiti3474]

Great vids ! 👏 You are doing all the experiments I never found time/motivation to do. I am a scientist and I like how you test things to find what is true. Please continue.😊

[@miwiarts]

I just found this channel, and I am instantly in love.

[@ChainBaker]

🤩

[@meri9943]

This video made me smile as it reminded me of when I baked as a kid and the fresh yeast I used to dissolve in warm milk back then would so often rise over the brim of the pot, making a mess on the counter ... :)

[@jamesvoigt7275]

You do these videos so very well. I am informed and entertained.

[@ChainBaker]

Thank you :)

[@georgepagakis9854]

I don't know how I missed this one but happy I saw it today :) There is a pizza guy that says when you put the salt in the beginning you get a dough that is easier to stretch and is softer and when you add it in the end as your 3rd dough its suppose to be crispier but harder to stretch. I think he is BS! Since salt also slows down the rise as we have seen in other videos of yours, if one is doing long fridge fermentation then its a good idea to drop the salt in from the beginning so it wont over ferment while mixing and in the fridge. Nice one m8:)

[@ruthdaniel1501]

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I always added my salt last or even during the kneading process BUT at least twice I forgot the salt entirely. Trust me ... Salt free bread is horrible. (You'd think I'd never make the same mistake twice!) Now, salt goes in at the same time as everything else. Shalom!

[@Bananapower6932]

Thanks for video, very helpful

[@chauvoduy9350]

I often mix the yeast, sugar, salt, milk powder, baking powder, amoni bicarbonade... into water to make sure all dissolved, then i put flour. No problem. Salt and sugar just slow down the fermentation a little bit, compare with no sugar and salt dough

[@rb-ex]

nice curiousity. there are even a lot of professional bakers and pizza makers who worry about salt killing their yeast, and as you demonstrate, it's based on imagination. my preference is to add yeast and salt to flour before mixing it with water, not because i think it's better than adding it to the water first, it's just the way i happen to do it. when i use commercial yeast i am usually using a tiny bit looking for long, somewhat cool fermentation to allow bacteria and enzymes to develop, but even when i make a fast rising bread like japanese milk bread, i doubt it matters whether you mix yeast/salt with water or with flour first

[@cristinaalcantara7345]

Thanks so much for clearing the air about yeast n salt❤️

[@944gemma]

I always thought that bit about salt killing yeast was a crock. Thank you for prooving it.

[@Sojourner-ql6du]

Thanks for again saving me time!

[@getgeometry8715]

Every time I think of a whether something is true for baking and I search it up your videos come up. Always very informative and well put together. Thank You!

[@ChainBaker]

Cheers 😎

[@michaelprozonic]

thank you for clearing this up for me. I alway divided my water in half and put yeast in one and salt in the other. this saves me a step

[@TIGRWOODS]

Another great video. Thank you

[@AndreVandal]

I have always read that the salt must come later but I was always too lazy and just added everything together. Nice to know my laziness never was bothering my bead making :)

[@Nobody4rpresident]

EXCELLENT VIDEO!! I have been making bagels since 2015 for family and friends. I use instant yeast, but was convinced I had to dry mix the yeast into the hi gluten flour (along with diastatic malt powder) BEFORE the salt. I was phobic about keeping the salt separate, adding it slowly while adding water to the mixer being certain that the salt would effect the fermentation if it came in direct contact with yeast. Where I heard this I can’t tell you. I carried this habit over to the no knead bread recipe I use. Thanks for removing one less step, and superstition, from my baking experience.

[@niko1even]

Excellent video. I would just like to say thank you. After watching your channel, I was able to put together a recipe based off baker's percentage and it turned out beautifully. It was the first time I made a good loaf of brioche bread, and I can't be any more thankful.

[@ChainBaker]

That is awesome! I'm glad you found it useful :)

[@joannestretch]

great way to show it doesnt affect the yeast, ty vm

[@chopsddy3]

Well, that’s finally settled. Short and sweet. Best bread baking vids on YT. Thanks. 🕊👍🕊 I’m headed to your Amazon site right now.✌️😁

[@ChainBaker]

;D

[@markjarrett9400]

I have learned heaps by watching your comparison videos. There are lots of bread making myths. I wonder if it relates to 'its always been done this way' or I was taught this way so it must be the only way or I am afraid of experimentation or if it works why try another way. I like the myth about dissolving dry yeast and letting it stand for 10 minutes otherwise it wont work. I can understand the one about making a well in the centre of the flour and adding the liquid in the well. I would do this if I made my bread on top of the counter and not have a bowl. During lockdown I could not get any yeast in the shops. A friend who gave up making bread making a while ago gave me some dried yeast. The dried yeast has passed its best before date by about 18 months. It worked just as well, maybe it took a bit longer to get started, maybe not. I did not think about the time it took to ferment. The end result was just the same. Now there is a long term experiment.

[@alex.vlascu]

Thank you for posting this vid!

[@nopenope1]

for bread I'm usually at 2%, for my pizza dough it's usually 3% though. I always mix it in together, way to much work mixing the salt afterwards... For Bread I did switched to my own sourdough starter (the only good thing from the pandemic in 2020, finally did it) only for pizza dough I use yeast, easier to predict the results and stretching the dough ^^

[@Happy1heart48]

I’m new to your channel and I’ve watched quite a few today and I must admit, I had that question running through my mind every time! With that being said, I became more convinced that old theory can’t be true. Now that I’ve seen THIS video(and THANK YOU VERY MUCH), I’m totally convinced! 👍🏼👍🏼💖

[@ChainBaker]

Cheers ;)

[@johnminarik3442]

Wow. I normally proof my yeast in liquid (I sometimes use pickle juice and a caraway "tea" as some do not like seeds) with whatever sweetener I am using. I add salt to the flour before mixing. It never occurred to me to mix salt with yeast - just doesn't really make things any more convenient. Great video!

[@macakucizmama831]

Thanks for an experiment. Can you make a video about aditives added to commercial breads? Ans what they actually do and why they add them?

[@edsoncechinel7724]

I love your videos, man. They are just perfect and so informative. Your working place and method is clean and neat, i found everything so aesthetically in place, there is one thing i think could be better: your bracelet. I mean, is your style, and I'm not questioning it. it just makes me very uncomfortble to see it there, like everytime i feel as its going to cling to the dough, you know?

[@ChainBaker]

Thank you :) I get what you mean. But since I'm right handed I rarely go that deep into the dough with the left hand. The bracelet never touches the dough. If it did, then I would certainly not wear it since that would just be a pain in the ass 😄

[@RevoReal]

Hi Charlie, thanks for sharing another great video. I have a suggestion which you can do an experiment with or something like that, I got really curious about yogurt in breadbaking and it's effects recently, but I didn't find something like your videos on the topic.

[@ChainBaker]

I will investigate some day for sure. My milk video will be the next best thing - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaacqHSYgcd8b6M :)

[@MrLotw333]

Great debunking of this topic.

[@kenmore01]

👍 Great video and experiment! I can change my pizza dough recipe now from mix yeast, water and sugar in a measuring cup and let stand five minutes to mix everything together lol. That will save having to wash the measuring cup. Interesting that the middle one rose faster than the other two both times. Negligible of course, but it was consistent.

[@ricardogao8147]

Just love these sort of vídeos where you compare and test different ideas. Any videos on different starchs and there effects on dough? Wheat, corn, potato etc? There are some asian baking and incorporate these starchs.

[@ChainBaker]

I might explore that in the future :)

[@emmanueld1128]

What a great video. I too mix salt and yeast together directly in water and have never had an issue. I have a giggle everytime I see a video mentioning that salt will kill the yeast. A lot of misconceptions out there. Good on you for the verification. Another myth I believe is chlorine from tap water will kill the yeast. I use tap water without fail, although some areas of the world may have unclean tap water, Sydney Australia is fine.

[@michaelt3163]

Great Video!

[@ts7901]

Great video as usual

[@jbz9547]

I use instant yeast, and just put yeast and slat opposite sides of the bowl. Thanks for your experiments. Thought provoking yet logic.

[@tjdwnd9529]

Thanks for your nice video ! I think proper osmotic pressure is the key in this experiment. Proper density of salt causes no harm for yeast to activate. For the first and the second case, salt was exposed to relatively high amount of water. The third case, however, salt was exposed to very limited amount of water because it was already spent to generate gluten and absorbed by flour starch. So in third case, relatively more yeasts must have encountered improperly high or low density salted water. That's why, I think, the third one showed the worst result. For my opinion, dissolving salt before mixing yeast seems the best.

[@matthiasdenhamer3925]

Great video! Your scientific approach really helps me understand dough & baking (even though i apply it to pizzas..). The only hting that could've made id more scientific is also mixing the other 2 doughs twice, so that all variables are the same. Otherwise, excellent vid!

[@jackpast]

Really nice experiment! Next, beans and salt! 😀

[@mllulu]

I love your videos, thank you so much, I have learned a lot! Suggestion: can you make a video about CRUSTS? Like, what part of the recipe makes a crust hard or soft? Ingredients? Temperature? Time? The info I have gotten from google on this subject is very confusing.

[@ChainBaker]

Many things affect the crust. The ingredients, the fermentation, the baking. The longer the fermentation the crustier the bread. The more fat and eggs the softer the crust. If baked with steam the crust will be thinner and crispier. If without steam, then it will be harder and thicker. I might make a full video in the future :)

[@mllulu]

@@ChainBaker Thank you so much :)

[@johncipolla8335]

great video. what would cause less of an oven spring? seems I cant get the same crowns as you

[@ChainBaker]

Many things. Fermentation, folding, preshaping, resting, shaping. The flour, the hydration. Everything affects oven spring basically 😄

[@Facetiously.Esoteric]

The middle was faster and had more air, but not enough to notice unless it was in slow motion like the video. Interesting. Thanks.

[@Quibus777]

Cool! very nice! For most bread I tend to add salt with last flour, but that is so that the my hobby of getting the most bubbles out of the least amount of yeast makes me do water yeast first, then gradually adding flour, first whisking as much O2 into the mix till about 100% hydration then switch to spatula. (doing 10 to 14 full loafes of bread from 1 baggie (6gr) of yeast now

[@marjamerryflower]

That is incredible. We were told to use 11 gram packet of yeast for 500 grams of flour!

[@Quibus777]

@@marjamerryflower yeah the more you whisk the more yeast will grow, i learned that when i was brewing beer and we used to multiply yeast from good Belgian beers to use. At that time i used a complicated system with 2 vessels and a magnet stirrer. 1 vessel with the yeast to be used on top of a magnet stirrer for the beer, a secondary with alcohol, both with stainless steel atachmentsto make the bubbles of air. So the pump would pump regular air through the alcohol, sterilising it, then it would be pushed through the erlemeijer on the magnet stirrer that would stirr it all constantly, so the yeat was in an environment of high O2 and nutrition (malts similar to the beer i wanted to brew with it.) one bottle of beer gave more then enough yeast to make nice beer. Of course this is al way overkill for bread, we kill the yeast when we bake, for wine/beer making its important to kep de baddies out :) so whisking it, adds O2 and your yeast will grow. My normal way of maing bread is starting a dayahead, with all th water, a little yeast and then slowly adding flour while whisking as muvh O2 in it as posssible, incremental adding 50gr of flour. its doyble win, its cheaper, its more flavorful, it just takes a little more time for the whisking. And if you got bad or poorly performing yeast you got it covered before mixing all the rest so the chtances of getting it wrong as dimishied a lot, maybe triple win :)

[@quakerwildcat]

Thanks for this experiment! I started ignoring the instructions and mixing salt in with the yeast and water about 2 years ago based entirely on seeing you do it repeatedly in your videos with no ill effect. Nice to see this myth definitively debunked.

[@kirstend.3533]

Thanks for all the helpful videos/experiments - I've learned a lot! Have you ever tried wthe (in Germany we call it) 'Salz-Hefe-Verfahren'? This involves mixing all the salt, ten times the amount of water and all the yeast (fresh yeast, unfortunately I don't know if dry yeast also works) together and put it in the fridge at 5 °C for between 4 and max. 48 hours. The saltstress produces glycerine. The fermentation tolerance, dough stability and gas holding capacity of the dough improve. In addition, the yeast cells produce carbon dioxide more quickly after the saltstress has ended. In my experience, this makes (spelt and wheat) 'Brötchen' even better.

[@ChainBaker]

I've not heard of this method, but it sounds very interesting. I shall investigate!

[@sheilam4964]

👍👍👍👍👍 I've done this comparison, too, and found the same results. I'm so glad to see someone else do this too and find the same results. I've never questioned your method of adding the salt in with the yeast because I already knew the answer. By the way does any of the non-believers ever question this in the recipes that use active yeast just stirred in with the rest of the ingredients (including THE SALT) when making bread? If salt retarded the rise or even killed the yeast, wouldn't it happen in these recipes? Sooooo funny. 😁

[@IMBlakeley]

Inspired by investigations like this I tried 2x identical loaves one with whey, one with water to see what the differences would be. Way way less than I expected, a little more caramelisation for the whey load but rise and crumb look identical there's a faint bitter sweet tang from the way but it is very small.

[@ymihere538]

I always mix my dry ingredients together; Flour, sugar, salt, etc and mix my yeast with the water. I've never really give much concern to when and where the salt was added. I have however been told to add a portion of the sugar to the yeast mixer to help activate it. I'd be curious if that actually has any effect of the fermentation.

[@ChainBaker]

Sugar slows down fermentation too 👍

[@artycrafty9209]

I just love old tales to be debunked, its a very brave thing to do and this should now re write the bread making books, well done and thank you. Ramon.

[@user-ve9sy1je6x]

I add corse salt in my sourdough after the initial 20 minute rest because I enjoy the occasional salt crunch when eating the bread.

[@TheDuckofDoom.]

Distilled pure water can damage yeast. Osmotic pressure inside the cells makes them absorb too much and can damage the celll structure. But that is prevented by adding a small amount of any other ingredient, salt, sugar, flour...

[@mayyabie6108]

Life will be easier now. One thing less to worry about. Thanks 🙂

[@jenphotographs5566]

Hi, would love a breakdown on how yeast affects different types of non-wheat flour. A lot of gluten-free bread/pastry recipes call for yeast, but it was my understanding that yeast needs sugar and gluten to do its thing? So I'm not sure how it could have any effect on, say, chickpea or rice flour. I'll be staying tuned! While I'm GF, my partner and his son aren't and they will appreciate some of the savory breads you've shared here.

[@ChainBaker]

I am planning to explore gluten free baking in the future. At the moment I have basically no knowledge of it.

[@llywyllngryffyn8053]

I've never intentionally left the salt out of a bread. the one time it happened accidentally, the results were unpleasant. I admit that I was swayed by the common hysteria that you shouldn't mix the salt in until after the yeast is activated and blended with the flour... but it never really made a lot of sense to me.

[@HeavyMettaloid]

I personally use the second method with a stand mixer. Toss all the dries excluding yeast (which gets to sit in some water for a minute or two) and mix them to combine, then add the yeast water.

[@pkguy3]

Full agreement on this. For me the key to success each and every time is weighing the flour and water a la bakers percentages using a digital scale. There are now fairly inexpensive scales that calculate the percentages as you weigh making it foolproof for the arithmetically challenged among us, me included LOL.

[@luisdelanuez2668]

Thanks!

[@aksaint3734]

I think, that it doesnt matter in short processes. You dont need yeast to be alive, you need enzymes, that are in them and salt helps to extract them anyway. Long processes, where you need yeast to live and multiplay can be something else tough

[@ChainBaker]

Enzymes are in flour. Yeast eats the sugar that is made by the enzymes breaking down starch. You can add salt and yeast at the same time no matter how long you plan on fermenting the dough for. It will work the same way ✌️

[@adamcolon]

To solve the double mixing problem, you could mix the other two again as also.

[@1stinfamous]

For me this little experience proves every manner is ✅

[@flolwaq]

I watched a lot of your side by side videos and really enjoy them. This time however I might be missing something obvious. What would happen if you didn't at salt to the mixture at all, or maybe after fermentation?

[@ChainBaker]

For that you must watch another comparison video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3KwaGqepp2WhrM 😁

[@flolwaq]

@@ChainBaker thanks a lot haha!

[@pyro_perspective]

i made the milk buns (tangzhou method) yesterday and they didnt rise at all... i still baked them off, but they tasted sweet. Indicates that the sugar wasn't consumed.. same yeast i used to make hot cross buns also on the same day.. i figured the salt had killed the yeast because it was the first time i put it all in together... handy that this video came up the next day.