Does music need an audience? | Q+A

Also, why is bass mixed so low in contemporary pop, my thoughts on Juilian Lage, and polytempo!
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[@andrewhuang]

Muahaha I control Adam’s content now

[@VictorCaldo]

4 Producers 1 Sample -> Sungazer's Dream of Mahjong would be really cool

[@allthingsgoodtube1243]

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@death hand studios kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZLUaYmGpaunasU

[@superleekegshoondinovevo6998]

@death hand studios hey i know you you're in a bunch of mr bungle comment sections

[@MarkusJunnikkala]

My bank account says yes my music needs an audience

[@2_samuel]

Facts

[@LiMCRiMZ]

Preach it. PREACH. IT.

[@MarkusJunnikkala]

Sky Taylor thank you!

[@kevinvan4310]

oof

[@BrunoNeureiter]

Sameee

[@danielwhite8036]

Music without an audience is basically most local band gigs.

[@KinoKonformist]

They often have audience. Like 10-15 people (most of them friends) go on this gigs)

[@coolmanjack1995]

@@KinoKonformist There's people in the room but they aint listening lol

[@onkelpappkov2666]

Shout out to my mom! Woo! No, seriously, mom, could you get me a beer? Love you!

[@bacicinvatteneaca]

@@onkelpappkov2666 my mom never came to my gigs

[@onkelpappkov2666]

@@bacicinvatteneaca :(

[@mason11198]

Adam Neely: Do you need an audience? Literally 99.9% of composers: Shit, I cant even get a virtual audience ;-;

[@bassoonplatoon3146]

Calling me out I see

[@mason11198]

@@bassoonplatoon3146 ooof

[@TachyBunker]

Lol for real man it's impossible

[@windturbine6796]

My music never has an audience, and that's a good thing

[@fossphur]

I like the sound of wind turbines (although I've only heard one up close just the once)

[@rodriguezelfeliz4623]

Amen to that brother

[@themandownstairs4765]

just call your music "experimental" and you'll get an audience that thinks you're better than everyone else and anyone who doesn't get it is basic

[@muuutch]

Lol same

[@Mordengaard]

I think I saw you at my last performance. You're a big fan, right?

[@oaster2000]

Andrew Huang asking Adam a question, my life is complete

[@perfectpitch2506]

Mine too!

[@certifiedpossum8655]

Now Andrew needs to make a beat out of his answer

[@manan-543]

His question was amazing.

[@oaster2000]

@@manan-543 completely

[@lbarudi]

@@certifiedpossum8655 hell yeah

[@ianmortensen1844]

(Watching jazz performance) Astronaut: “Wait, there’s no audience.” Other astronaut pointing gun at him: “Never was one.”

[@freebanana27]

*gunshot*

[@thatdude3827]

Gavin O'Connor wait, thats not on the script

[@ZackGrooves]

My boyyyyyyy Nate made it into an Adam Neely video haha 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@niccolomarcon]

Thanks autocorrect for ruining my 15 seconds of glory

[@MisterAppleEsq]

It had ti do it.

[@onesyphorus]

Press F ti pay respect in chat

[@niccolomarcon]

@@ivinnyy when english isn't your first language yes it does ahahah

[@erichendrix1602]

Read this right as the question game up

[@theblackdeath4398]

That's a terribly interesting question. Asking that question is like asking "Does language need to be between two or more people?" In Arabic classical music, absolutely. The audience is part of the performance. If you were to search up any of the songs of the greatest Arab classical singers (namely, Umm Kulthum, Abdel-Halim Hafez, Fairouz, etc.) you'd notice that each of the videos on KZbin for just one song have differing lengths---that is because the singer and orchestra depend on the reaction of the audience to see what phrases and sections of the song to repeat and how many times.

[@ivyssauro123]

When I first got into arab classical music I was a bit confused by how so many of the recordings feature people talking in the background, cheering, clapping along and etc, and also how much songs changed performance to performance, at first I thought this was due to low fi and improvised recordings but eventually I understood that it's the way it's meant to be!

[@tane4652]

Do you have any links or sources so I can learn more about that? I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but you've piqued my attention!

[@_cynth_wave]

I talk to myself frequently, so I don't see the problem presented by that simile.

[@ivyssauro123]

@@tane4652 It's a bit like live Jazz really, where people will "Woo" you if you do a great lick or something

[@marktyler3381]

Once attended a workshop with Indian classical musicians - they blew my noodle. 96 scales commonly used in each key.

[@JonRossy]

Adam: We don't have any other way of describing our thoughts and feelings about music unless we use words like... *Ad plays* *skips ad after 5 seconds* Adam: T H I C C

[@WhatIsMyPorpoise]

Haha you too? I got ‘unless we use words like CHARMIN ULTRA SOFT is...’ Great moment for an ad, really.

[@andigoldberger6160]

"I'm a musician, not an audio file" - Adam Neely 2020

[@onesyphorus]

I read this differently lol

[@FreakieFan]

🤣🤣🤣

[@KnowledgePerformance7]

r/misquote

[@DragonWinter36]

r/technicallycorrect

[@KenHilton]

I might be wooooshed, but he said "audiophile" - a lover of audio.

[@dylanc3744]

Andrew's Question is basically my Music Career

[@ritan5643]

[Y] SAME

[@SIDEKICKDUSTY]

Yeah, I had pretty much the same thought

[@dylanc3744]

Samuel Endicott i mean they're both big music youtubers hahahaha

[@jaxblonk5127]

It's honestly pretty close to home, for sure.

[@cpjthompson3024]

Gotta love ad timing sometimes. 'Unless we use words like-' 'BIG TV BUNDLE!'

[@danielhenderson9719]

“Unless we use words like” “EMAIL”

[@alk3603]

Mine was "Unless we use words like- 'OOOOOOOHHHH YYEEEeeeaaa.. that's the stuff'" it was a salsa commercial

[@davisginn1298]

‘Are you still using your same old play along app??’

[@corwin32]

I’m not a pro, just play for fun, but “tight” is when everything clicks, all the parts just slide into each other and it feels complete.

[@shahafshavit1114]

Thats a very subjective answer to "what is tightness". Adam was trying to give the most objective and logical answer.

[@capslock196]

When your performance reminds a nuns pus...

[@servvo]

well I'm not sure about that, lots of music that mamy people would describe as "loose" (mostly genres such as jazz, soul, etc.) still feels very complete, and definitely doesn't feel tight just my take tho idk

[@BigDaddyWes]

It's all subjective. To some, it just means "good." To others it means "in sync." In my mind it means the transients (the start of the notes) of multiple instruments align. If two notes play within like around 20-30ms or less of each other, we can't help but percieve sounds as occurring at the same time so they could be described as "tight." An example would be a song is being played and there's a fast syncopated 32nd note riff that everyone plays. If everyone plays it exactly at the same time, it sounds "tight." If someone is slightly ahead or behind the rest of the band, it sounds totally different. Sometimes this is an aesthetic choice, and is not always an indicator of skill or musicianship, but it often is easy to notice if someone in the band isn't "tight" with the drummer for example.

[@briankeegan8089]

@@shahafshavit1114 But he didn't answer it, he said what it wasn't.

[@TheDreRock]

Love the take on BASS

[@greenteadude8958]

You here too dude?

[@themandownstairs4765]

tired: turning down bass guitar to make room in the mix for the kick wired: tuning the fundamental of the kick to the sub of the bassline inspired: the bass IS the kick

[@blastehrcomposes]

2 days too late

[@theaddictofgaming9174]

808 day is everyday

[@LiMCRiMZ]

@@theaddictofgaming9174 YEP

[@pootrizz]

I like to think music doesn't have a moment without an audience; it is only simply playing to ourselves...

[@joeb3590]

Indeed

[@TheDrsalvation]

In my case it's the opposite, I don't need an audience, but any listener is an extra benefit lol. (It's also a good way to avoid disappointment when nobody listens, instead, one listener is extra)

[@leonardo9259]

But then you are the audience

[@lilyfm7152]

"432 Hz" as A440 plays. Brilliant. And I'm proud of myself for noticing immediately!

[@noslowerdna]

weird I heard 439.7 Hz, maybe I had the volume up too loud.

[@peteroselador6132]

Ok it wasn't just me Edit: Come to think of it, Adam usually doesn't play 432 when he says he is so I should've just trusted my ears

[@henryrichard7619]

I thought it was weird that it didn't sound flat!

[@brennanhughes9659]

It's so relieving to hear that it's not just paranoia when you're at a loud concert and the music drops a quarter tone when you put earplugs in! Wondered about it for a while and never found any satisfying answers on the goog. Thanks for another great video Adam!

[@ColossalZonko]

hearing a popular radio song in the car from the back seat on a low volume, knowing the song, singing along until it gets louder and hearing you where singing completely, but equally, off-key was really strange

[@MacetazzOpina]

Ive never experienced any of this... Weird...

[@ColossalZonko]

@@MacetazzOpina you could try and play a random (not chosen specifically by you) song at low volume and white noise at the same time. it's kinda like a sound illusion so it might suddenly be apparent or flip and sound normal. I had it happen 3 times max. maybe yr ears are too good 😋

[@MacetazzOpina]

@@ColossalZonko im an audio engineer and have been doing music production since very young, maybe you guys are talking of resonance and ive learned to hear it differently? Idk

[@ColossalZonko]

@@MacetazzOpina it's really more of a musical thing and makes it sound like different bass or chords are being played, the vocals usually sound normal. I don't think it's a audio thing as much as it is a brain interpretation thing? of course no expert in any audio or music way, just trying to explain my expierience with it as best as I can.

[@ahorseinahospital]

The Mario Kart lick easily is one of the best representations of joy of playing music

[@marcypotato6435]

@Anne O'Nymous ...they hire real composers?? the lick is literally played by a jazz musician, duh ngl you sound like those ignorant people who think video games are nothing but space invaders

[@astrotrance]

Regarding audiophiles versus musicians: When I was in high school in the 90s I read a book titled "Hi-Fi" about the history of audio reproduction. ( I don't remember the author or publishing date but this book predated CDs.) The author suggested that musicians weren't usually into hi-fi because the sound of a live performance that audiophiles are always chasing is the sound that musicians live with in their daily lives, and thus any audio reproduction equipment, even the best of the best, will sound inferior to a musician's ears. It makes sense. I'm much more of a music consumer than I am a music maker, though I do compose a little bit. I live with two people who are live performers and I'm definitely the audio geek of the house. While on movie nights they are content to listen through the TV's built-in speakers, I always make sure our sound system is cranked up and ready to go.

[@nicholaspalacio9672]

“I’m a musician and not an audiophile”. FINALLY someone says it. I’ve had audiophiles who drive me nuts about the quality of Spotify. I don’t give a shit. I want to listen to music. The compression isn’t enough for me to notice. It’s not like an SD KZbin video.

[@leonardo9259]

He said audio file you idiot

[@billpiano]

Me to audience. "I've suffered a long time for my music. Now it's your turn." Bill

[@lazyrrr2411]

👏👄 !

[@nate844]

adam when you played an a=432 frequency i felt my third eye open and my chakras felt aligned. thank you for making my day complete, sir. leave this at 432 likes boys c’mon

[@Satchboy71]

He didn't mention what note it was. It could have been a raised G#. ;)

[@Posterhase]

it’s played through bad frequencies

[@annoynymouse1146]

pretty sure that was a lowered Bb

[@MrTryagen]

pretty sure it was 440 Hz... we've been bamboozled

[@sammartin5011]

@@MrTryagen yeah i think so too

[@tylerhackner9731]

Whenever Jazzman does a Q&A, I squee

[@IaCthulhuFthagn]

What about when he is testifying?

[@adenmcdooflez]

I squee😂

[@Metaphist]

According to The Neely Continuum of Meme Expense¹ memes exist on a spectrum of cheap, involving little work (colloquially "low-effort" memes), to expensive; with high time-demand and/or extraordinary dedication and talent. The Neely Continuum of Meme Expense (NCME) is distinct from raw meme quality, meaning the scale can be universally applied within a value-free matrix of factors in understanding the proliferation of memes. For example, a high-expense meme requires a commensurately laden transmission vector, i.e, talent/practice. Whereas cheap memes are easy to reproduce, often using templates to increase ease of reproduction, thus only requiring the use of basic image manipulation software ("Is this a pigeon?"). The intuitive nature of the NCME lends it considerable face-validity and convenience of use, though it is unclear if the inherent flexibility of the NCME renders it unamenable to transposition onto a standardised quantitative format. Critics have argued that reproducibility is distinct from the original creative process owing to characteristics of medium - a video can be shared in seconds regardless of the time it took to film, and accordingly the NCME is merely a description of the distinct composition process and has little use in determining the actual dispersion of the meme 𝘪𝘱𝘴𝘰 𝘧𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘰². Nevertheless, while critics seek to deracinate the meme-product from the context of its inception, few would extend a strong version of meme-realism theory so far as to deny the impact of authorship on the consequent popularity of the meme-product. [1] - Neely, A.(2020). This video. KZbin, 12:00 - 12:25. [2] - Doe, J. (2020). Thesaurus abuse. Verbose Meretricious Ostentation, 23(5), 314-324.

[@InfluxDecline]

Surely the greatest comment on KZbin

[@randomchannel-px6ho]

One of the most interesting things about commercial audio engineering is the low end problem: how to balance the kick and the bass? I think two interesting solutions to this issue are Drake's God's Plan and Bruno Mars Uptown Funk. In God's plan the kick contains a lot of sub (35 hz or less) in it, and has a prominent fundamental in the 70-80 hz range. The Eq of the kick has brought down the frequencies in between. The bass (not a bass guitar sadly) then fills the space in between mostly sticking to the notes A1 and B1. And it works well, a big powerful kick and and a big bass. In Uptown Funk the kick is again quite prominent with a fundamental around 70-80 hz. However unlike gods plan it doesn't have any sub. Instead the bass guitar (5-string) gets to dominate the sub and low end. This is what I'd probably use as a reference for modern pop mixing with a bass guitar. Of course sometimes the engineer doesn't seem to care about avoiding mud. An example is Billie Ellish's everything i wanted which has a muffled muddy kick drum. When the deep bass joins in on the chorus the low end just becomes a mess.

[@silentverdict]

I never heard that reason to mix quietly, I always thought we did it because everything just sounds punchier at higher volumes, and if you get it to sound good quiet, it sounds amazing when loud. Playing it loud not only is hard on your ears but it's almost like cheating yourself.

[@anguswalker9345]

i also thought this too, i’ve never heard anyone say this... gotta keep those ears fresh :)

[@Ed-Topo-108]

We used to switch to larger studio monitors every 3 hrs or so. A bit like driving in town, then on a race track.

[@ontheroad579]

I agree. I don't think many engineers mix quietly because of the pitch effect. I think Adam is wrong on that but I could be the one in the wrong.

Listening fatigue is also a factor. Comes faster if you play loud or are tired.

[@mariusbraun450]

Julian Lage really is something else, I was lucky enough to see him live at the Jazz Estate in Milwaukee and even say Hi to him

[@evantaylor7531]

He’s so good AND so nice!

Yeah, Julian is quite the player. Would be fun to see live for sure!

[@ryanmart5434]

It's interesting to note that even technical musical terms almost always rely on words which describe a different sensory phenomena. High or low pitched is a spatial metaphor. Bright or dark timbre is visual. Even the theories of tension and release that describe tonal music rely on the fact we understand how tension and release feels. The only difference to me is that the meaning of certain words are formalised, more widely used, and their meanings more precisely defined.

Sometimes used for describing taste as well, but that doesn’t seem as formalised...

[@estikai]

There's this really interesting book called Atmospheres by german philosopher Gernot Böhme, in which this phenomenon plays a huge role. Basically a part of his theory about aesthetics is, that these feelings or "atmospheres" like "thicc", "dark", "bright" etc are in fact not bound to specific senses. They are just more likely to appear in those sensory contexts you are most familiar with the terms describing the feeling. But they affect you and your mood in a similar way, which is why you naturally tend to use those words to describe your feelings about something, even if it's not technically correct. For example the use of "high" or "low" to describe notes could be explained technically by measuring the frequency of the note, but "fast" or "slow" notes would be equally correct from a physical point of view. And yet it doesn't feel right. Ancient Greeks actually didn't use "high" or "low" to describe pitch, they used words like "spiky" and "voluminous", which, at least to me, feels also pretty appropriate.

[@abstract_note]

5:00 He's trolling us, it's actually 440 Hz

[@theothertonydutch]

The last time I was this early has replaced "first".

[@patricktervo2013]

The last time I was this early people still said “first”

[@michalbotor]

stop repeating memes. what you said doesn't even make any sense.

[@justs_]

@michał botor Pretty sure you missed the point of the comment, it isn’t a “meme”, read the comment again properly.

[@Supertimegamingify]

@@michalbotor "The last time I was this early has replaced "first"." Is a perfectly sensible sentence.

[@michalbotor]

fair enough. then i just don't get it then. :) i see the word play of early and first, but the whole thing speaks semantic error to me. ;p

[@vivsavagex]

julien lage is the man. absolute beast. i got to hear him talk at my school like 5 year ago and i voice memo'd the whole thing. still listen to it occasionally...oh yeah youre the man too adam!

[@gigglysamentz2021]

Loved every single one of those answers! So good!

[@bowtotheabsurd]

I’ve enjoyed every video I’ve seen you do. Thank you for the work you’re doing and for being such a great source of music knowledge!

[@DeadwingDork]

jazzmatazz

[@Selvikus]

*jazzmaztazz

[@pesosgouda8223]

I like to use the word “tight” to refer to music that has good structure and organization. Like listening to a symphony that perfectly develops its themes, or a song that has verse variations and brings everything together on the last chorus. In that case, it’s “air-tight” because nothing escapes the music, everything serves some sort of purpose and it all fits together beautifully.

[@EternalProphecyTV]

The entire structure of your videos, the humour, and editing are literally perfect

[@thebat3164]

I’m loving the direction these videos are going.

[@seanellis5410]

OH MY GOD HE ANSWERED MY QUESTION 😭😂 Thanks for your thoughts man! The beatbox community is a bit of a stir with some sexual misconduct allegations, but overall the community is EXTREMELY supportive and welcoming. Maybe not on discord though lol

[@WhatIsMyPorpoise]

Your community too? So many communities getting these accusations. Great for justice but bad news to hear all the same.

[@seanellis5410]

@@WhatIsMyPorpoise Unfortunately yes, the 2017 American Champion has had allegations raised against him. Thankfully all of the major beatbox organizations were quick to take a very active stance against it, and changes are in the midst of happening. But still, it's terrible that it's happening at all. Also, love your username lol

[@Bheem161]

"because we dont have any other way of describing our thoughts and feelings and our experiences about music unless we use words like" *hey! listen! im an ad! no! dont click me away! i jus* "thicc"

[@metallicafan3124]

I love that you have so many videos that you can reference them in your other videos

[@neilmarsh7437]

beautiful to hear you talk of Julian Lage so glowingly! he's such an amazing player....

[@raffjolyne6225]

the overlap of audiophile and musician largely exists among musicians that are producers and sound designers first more than anything. if u think of urself as a pianist with a keyboard u probably wont be but if u instead think of urself as a someone designing a piece and the keys are ur interface for the composition, yeah all the ppl like that i know are audiophiles.

[@mariaconda]

I mix and produce, and I hate listening to the mixes after data compression and/or bit reduction, but that mostly applies when I hear it on my own monitor setup as most other systems reproduce a sound I am unfamiliar to begin with. My monitors are for sure fairly accurate and detailed, but also bland, unforgiving and not exactly good sounding in the general sense. But that is just the way I like it, because when they do sound, I know it's good, so they make me work harder to achieve the best result I can., and then once I done mixing an album, I generally never want to hear it again. Usually I get a few copies upon release, but I just give them away to friends or who ever wants them.

[@exequielmleziva4599]

I really wanted to know what's his opinion on Vulfpeck hahahahaha

I THINK he likes them? I know they have been mentioned in some earlier Q&A, if I recall correctly in positive words.

[@noahmay7708]

Who doesn't like Vulfpeck?

[@lewigallant]

Adam, I just wanted to say you have been a massive inspiration to me and many other musicians. I am going to start studying at BIMM in Brighton, UK and just came across your masterclass, which I've just watched. I hope one day to attend a class of yours in person. Absolute living legend! Keep it up :) Thank you Adam for being humble and willing to share your knowledge

[@AppleCiider]

that part about the kick and bass in pop music was rly cool, would love to see more stuff like that

[@maxpeacemusic]

Hey Adam Question for you're next Q&A How would someone go about trying to arrange a song into a completely different style? Eg: Rock into big band swing or Hip hop into Calypso. keep up the great work.

[@denali637]

Theory re: musicians not being audiophiles: if you're playing a lot, your ears are "filling in" a lot of the stuff that's not audible or not perfectly clear, just like when you play a chord with just the fifth, third, and sixth, you're still going to "hear" the root, the ninth, and probably both the dominant and major sevenths.

[@quatricise]

It might also be because audiophiles tend to care about the minutiae of music, the pointless details that don't make the music what it is. It's like looking at a painting and enjoying the subtle overlap of the brush strokes. I am that kinda guy, who loves pointless details in visual art. Not so much in music tho, which is strange.

[@larrysfinger648]

these q&as genuinely have to be longer i'm not getting enough adam neely

[@aidandix7296]

I just wanna take a second to express how much you've Inspired me on my musical journey. When i first fell in love with music i loved listening, then when I started playing i fell in love again.. but both of those situations pale in comparison to the amazing feel of falling in love with the theory. thanks to people like you and Ben levin I've opened my eyes to the sheer beauty of the craft and without you guys i may have quit music a long way back because my love was fleeting. So thank you, genuinely. music has brightened my life in ways i can't accurately express and if it weren't for your channel teaching me the theory i wouldn't have that crutch to pick me up.

[@reflect7559]

I'm a musician and an audiophile. They overlap much more in tone-driven avante garde music, especially IDM

[@1678felipe]

I guess the musician can be his own audience sometimes. I usually have to anyway...

[@BrianKrock]

DUDE! I'm making a video about polytempo literally right now. Crazy timing! You are a scholar and a gentleman, truly.

[@lazercheesecake]

Although this is rather old, when I was watching your video doing short challenges with Samurai guitarist, one of the tasks was to switch instruments. And for the first 10 seconds, I kept expecting your playing on the guitar to come out as bass and Sammy G's playing on the bass to come out as the treble part. It was a jarring experience having to rewire my expectations of who was making which sounds. I remember this being a concept you covered in your playing a backing track video and thought it was cool to see it in action.

[@RammusTheArmordillo]

I absolutely love how you say "modERN jAZZ" at 9:51 (and yeah I think it's just your normal voice and everything but I like it) (bonus just for you: 12:00)

[@FartPropelledMexican]

Resident musician and audiophile here: the imperfections are what I obsess over in my mixes. Probably adds far too much production time, but I really care about everything that goes into the music, even if most consumers won't even hear it on their apple earbuds.

[@quatricise]

Me too, and god is it pointless in the end. Later I come back to a song and the problem is that it was just boring and it wasn't the 8000-9000hz sharp resonance in the kick drum that I forgot to iron out.

[@mariaconda]

I tend to find that those imperfections on their own don't make much difference, but they add up, so while you may not really notice them individually, it is the sum of them all that often makes a mix sound good, and that is something that is generally lost on a lot of artist when they make an album. It is true most listeners won't be able to identify the small mistakes and sloppiness here and there, but the cumulative effect of them being there all at the same time tend to register with most, even though they can't tell you why it sounds bad.

[@robertotakahashi9950]

Love your channe, man. Thanks for such a good content.

[@MikeKGullion]

With such philosophical questions as "Does a tree make a sound ...," one always has to first define the premises. If one defines sound as sound waves, then yes, it makes a sound (unless the tree falls in a perfect vacuum). But if one defines sound as a person hearing it, then no, the tree does not make a sound.

[@agustinmarinangeli]

I got a perfect example of polytempo: look up the worst sweet child o mine cover on youtube.

[@esauponce9759]

😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5TMk4x3d7egb6c

[@igloo_igloo]

toe (japanese band) is probably my favorite band that uses polytempo, but that band covering sweet child... I really enjoyed their performance lol

[@johnfrenette]

Igloo Igloo Toe is so good. “The book about my idle plot...” is my go-to rainy day album.

[@igloo_igloo]

@@johnfrenette Their albums "For Long Tomorrow" and "Hear You" are probably my favorites

[@Eteneme]

Well, I actually spent like 12 years of my life making music with literally nobody there to hear me... like, in every sense, because I developed depression and anxiety when I was a child and I had to fight that sh*t all by myself. Music helped me so much... and everything that I wrote was just how I tried to understand my feelings, but then I entered this loop of wanting someone to share my music with but thinking that maybe nobody ever cared because I wasn't good enough so I became more depressed and that made me write even more and so on and on and on... (and by both "caring" and "being good enough" I'm not talking only about the music itself but me as a person -- and I know it might sound dumb, but my depression really f*cked me up for so long) It's been a while since my last depressive episodes, and I actually decided like a month ago to start uploading everything that I've written, yay. So, if you want you can maybe give it a try here on my youtube channel. Big fan, Adam. I've been a subscriber and viewer since your djazz videos.

[@onkelpappkov2666]

I know that "feeling and knowing" are two different breeds altogether, but I want to emphasize that there are more reasons for lack of interest than how good you are. Like, I could simply not give a shit on my own, regardless of a performer's ability. I'm saying this because it's a trap thought I see often, especially on myself. My post only gets 3 upvotes, which means I didn't do it right and... no, it doesn't mean anything. And the reasons why someone dislikes your stuff are manifold and at least half dependent on the person who likes / dislikes stuff. It's often hard to see the agency of others when you're a victim of depression. It's just that, no matter the quality of something, I'm free to hate it with and without passion.

[@Eteneme]

@@onkelpappkov2666 Ugh, yes! Depression is really blinding indeed. It's been difficult to realise how my perception of so many things had been altered by it. Thank you for your reply. I've learned so many things throughout all these years that I've been trying to help others struggling with their mental health as much as I can. Thank you again for your reply! Stay safe!

[@bxp_bass]

@@Eteneme Spent like 20 years on playing bass, only a year ago found my first serious band) Never thought that way. As a music nerd myself (in terms of listening tons of obscure underground stuff) and also as long time admin of metal community in VK in the past I'd say - don't even start thinking that you're not good enough because of lack of listeners. All my experience as a listener and music admin ROARS me that popularity doesn't mean quality as a music and fullness of ideas. Popularity is self-containing thing. I heard damn shitty music that is popular (especially in Russia - all popular music here is crap. I'm not a snob, it's actually crap, believe me). All that I can think of unpopular music is "hmm, let's give it a listen". Popularity is about marketing, PR and exposure on popular spots like radio, top channels etc. I heard literally masterpieces that nobody knows just because it's too unusual to pop music format or it's just different. Just make music as YOU want to do it, you can't do better than this.

[@Eteneme]

@@bxp_bass So cool! Good luck with your new band, and I'll follow you right now to see more of your videos!

[@bxp_bass]

@@Eteneme Thanks! And I'll follow you. :)

[@OscarMSmithMusic]

I definitely think you could talk more about why audiophiles and musicians often don't overlap. I'm not a really obsessive audiophile, but do have some tendencies. But I'm also a musician and from my perspective the reason I don't always care about listening on good speakers or from vinyl or whatever is because I'm more interested in the "music itself", the choices the musicians/composers are making. And those decisions will usually come through even if it's recorded badly and won't get better no matter how nice your speakers are.

[@Gabivador]

Thank you for answering my question 🙏 I really like that you gave an example of polytempo, I will check it out :)

[@dutchdykefinger]

"if you play an instrument, but you can't hear it, is it still music?" would be the better question :')

[@RobyMBeki]

I'd say it is, just on a whole other level, and I think one has to be pretty advanced to be able to play like this correctly. You have to hear the pitches and intervals in your head which to some people can be kind of hard, and I don't blame anyone it is a hard process to learn an ability like this. But still since you can hear it in your head it should at least in my opinion be considered music.

[@tyranneous]

I bloody hope not. As a terrible amateur musician, nobody should be forced to listen to how bad I am. Maybe war criminals and child molesters, but even then...

[@Dowlphin]

It would be the holy grail for my music career ambitions (i.e. first step) if I could play without anyone listening in. (There's some awful negative feedback that I cannot compensate for.)

[@hoguesteele]

Cruel and unusual punishment

[@raahull04]

Haha!! Hang in there buddy!

[@tyranneous]

@a dude never done wonderwall... But I'd give that a go for that worthy cause!

[@Dowlphin]

@a dude That's not a just punishment. He's not gonna live much longer, and that punishment could shorten his remaining lifespan even further.

[@bruh-di4ku]

ADAM I MISSED THE Q+A HOW COUKD THIS HAPPEN I FOLLOWED YOU ON INSTAGRAM FOR THIS EXPRESS PURPOSE AHHHHH

[@kieranburmester6493]

Adam is so wholesome today I love it

[@yumyumbirdMusic]

Musician here, also Audiophile. Listening to high quality studio recordings is much more fun than to listen to your band practice recorded with your phone...

[@LiMCRiMZ]

I feel both ends of this spectrum deeply and you could not possibly be more correct 😂

[@MaggaraMarine]

I don't think preferring high quality studio recordings over band practices recorded on a phone makes you an audiophile, though...

[@yumyumbirdMusic]

@@MaggaraMarine fully agree. Was a very rough example where it starts...

[@tombruges1557]

11-EDO serial, polytempo lofi with every pitch comprised of the entirety of Giant steps to form a fractal in 6/9+pi/6 with A=432.

[@patchoulicyanide]

Why not 96-edo or 48-edo for ultimate precision? Or if we want wacky imprecise intervals in relation to just intonation, we could do any EDO from 1-10, preferably 1,3,5,7, or 9 for very wierd and highly non-musical divisions of the octave. Thoughts?

[@tombruges1557]

Simon Balbus-Holmquist full 1200 edo we’re going down to the cent for those juicy 1200 note clusters spanning an octave, still lofi tho

[@patchoulicyanide]

Tom Bruges hell yess I will take nothing less! What about googol-EDO or googolplex-EDO or googolplexian-edo? What about Graham’s number-EDO, or TREE (3)-EDO, or SSCG (3)-EDO? How about infinity-EDO wait that’s just a fretless instrument. Wait but if infinity is a continuum are there multiple levels of infinity-edo? Wait the continuum hypothesis can’t be proved or disproved according to the laws of math and computation. So there is and there isn’t existence of multiple different but not different infinity-EDOs. Schroedinger’s-edo I guess!

[@thatonedrummer31]

Love the discussion on Musicking. It’s such an important text for any musician to read!

[@manubeckerman]

Your videos are so good Adam 😤😤😤😤😤

[@martinrosschou]

4:45 ish, got me wondering, why is it called "seconds"? I thought for a second, that you were talking about some musik 4th and 2nd's times. Anyway I looked it up. Minute is the first method of breaking up an hour, and the second method is seconds.

[@28acresmusic6]

Always wondering how Davie504 and you would do for collaboration. Two bassists with totally different style :) BASS!

[@dLzzzgaming]

That would be... based

[@MelodiousEtude]

These Q+A sessions are so interesting. For your next Q+A: I was wondering if you have ever heard a brass player, specifically a trombonist, use the Yamaha silent brass mute through a guitar or bass amp? It's a really cool - albeit sort of unpractical - effect. I used to play around with it in college, but never found a good use for it. Would you ever use a sound like that with Sungazer? As a music theory geek, you've got a new subscriber in me, my dude!

[@jaydonarchie6165]

I just watched your Cult of the written score video and you brought up some great points on be able to READ music and the gap it sorta makes between modern music. For me, the best way to learn new music is by reading or site reading it. So my question to you is how can musicians learn their favorite songs, rather than by ear or transcribing it yourself?? Also love your channel I’m a new subscriber🥳🥳

[@pixelpastiche]

6:49 A musician sees "ti" and says "tie" what is this world and where are your solfege fundamentals?!?!?!?!

[@satya3290]

😂... yes well US people call it Eyerack, so.

[@DasGanon]

Health Vol 4 inner liner: "This record was conceived to be played in excess of 90 decibels. Please do your best"

[@xwsftassell]

I like it when everything starts to sound if it's in a different key. I used to go to Northern Soul all nighters (tinny 1960's, 100mph, mixed-and-mastered-for-transistor-radio music, mainly from Detroit) and the sound would bounce off the walls, the ceiling and the floor and you'd be dancing in this weird 100mph tripped out tonality soup. You'd hear something like a string solo start off in one key, do an apparent summersault in mid-air and end up in another. It was amazing.

[@AreYouUs]

I LOVE that you touched on the sensory vocabulary that we so often rely on in music. A common hurdle I've found is when a group of players (more frequently "jammers" rather than trained musicians) each think that the same term means something entirely different - also a common theme in object-referent theory of language and mind. Not so much a problem when you encounter the sound first and then qualify it with a descriptor as a collective group, but much more difficult when you are trying to encourage a particular feel from another player and the terms you use to describe it mean something entirely different to them if they mean anything at all - depends largely on the functional vocabulary of the people involved. This communal building of cross-sensory vocabulary is often just as important as (and perhaps indistinguishable from) the building of the musical vocabulary shared among the musicians as a whole. I would also wonder if synesthesia, or the varying levels to which each person exhibits this trait, plays a part in how we choose to describe sensory input via other-sensory descriptors.

[@trey4582]

Sir we need that WAP reharm

[@daanwilmer]

While yes, also no. While I don't completely understand it (like a lot of poetry, the lyrics and the song have meanings that I don't fully grasp), part of the power of the song is in who sings it. Adam, being who he is, performing that song could contribute to reducing the power and impact of that song. So he chose not to (at least for now).

[@vartebugge]

Daan Wilmer what

[@jambajoby32]

The first observation/question: it’s even worse when it’s live and the band is waaay too loud and you can’t hear yourself lol

[@jambajoby32]

Arson Barn agree! I compare it to lights If someone has blinders in your eyes you really can’t see much besides that obnoxious spectrum/frequency Same w bands, with the exception you made

[@DrDanLawrence]

Cool question. I wrote my dissertation and have had some publications on a set of related questions around this related to rhetoric and music. Basically I tried to re-connect the field of rhetoric to musicology, to think about how music makes arguments (and audience is a central component to rhetorical theory.) Interesting ideas for these times.

[@DarrenMontgomery]

As a worship/music/tech pastor this pandemic has been such a unique time. Much of what we do in church is meant to engage people who are there with us. There's supposed to be interaction - I always feel more connected when I can hear people sing with me and watch them respond. It a crazy thing to try to interact and engage with a camera in the same way you would with a congregation. It's made me appreciate those in our church more and how much they add to the Sunday morning service experience from where I stand on the platform. As we start back up with limited attendance, it's been an emotional thing as our team regains interaction with people and as people are singing together. I hope we get through this thing safely and soon. Love your channel, Adam. Thanks for providing great content.

[@Venomous9]

When are you going to do KZbin comment Q&As again?

[@damianGray]

Adam Neely describing music: "thicc"

[@Jusuisse]

Hey Adam! I've finally watched all of your Q&A videos over the past couple of months. Your channel evolution clearly shows how much effort you put into it 👍. I now have a few questions for your next one. What are your thoughts on the band Rings of Saturn? They are my favorite band because there is always something new to find in their melodies. I only know music theory from watching your videos. Could you analyze one of their newer songs at some point? Thanks man!

[@adamblevins1435]

Whether music needs an audience is something that I've been thinking about a lot lately, especially with the recent health craziness going on and bars being forced to close left and right. I've been thinking of alternate ways for musicians to make a living, as well as whether performing without an audience is a viable option. More specifically, without a LIVE audience. Thanks for taking on this question. Great content, as always!

[@tomvesely4008]

Will there be a collab with Andrew Huang?

[@finnobeirne3304]

10:51 JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE

[@echolocations625]

I've streamed over 2000 hours of improvisational multi-instrumental music to twitch. It's one of the weirdest and most awesome experiences out there. I used to busk on the streets and live streaming feels kind of the same, but obviously different. The ability to connect individually and personally to anybody willing to bend their ear to my noise making really feels like a deeper interpersonal exchange than I ever could have predicted, considering there is no "in person" handshakes, hugs, or glances. It's a very difficult medium to figure out and I'd love to connect and share stories about my online streaming experience to anyone willing to invest the time to listen. Thanks for what you do Adam. So much respect for the way your mind works and I've been a "fan" since day 1. ~Josh

[@Booskop.]

My dad used to drum for many years - he's a real audiophile nowadays. Nice video as always Adam.

[@lukesteward3530]

>adam: 5:52 >me, a drummer: i agree, despicable individuals, the lot!

[@Prof.CheeseDog]

He won't talk about vulfpeck because Joe Dart is the best bass player in the age bracket

[@onkelpappkov2666]

I heard he plays on a Fender electric bass guitar.

[@charlytavernier6241]

I'm guessing MonoNeon is more Adam's cup of tea.

[@MrBrawl]

Lmao get real. I love Vulf and Joe but that is silly and incredibly short-sighted.

[@Prof.CheeseDog]

@@MrBrawl it's an inside joke

[@benekatop]

The "Super Fast Instagram Q&A" intro is such a fucking banger. I relish every second of it. Only second to the classic "Adam Neely's Bass Lessons".

[@pumodi]

Interesting thing regarding the volume and pitch relationship: there's something called the Fletcher Munson curve, or the Equal Loudness Contour, that shows how we perceive different frequency bands at varying amplitude levels. Helps to identify why we have this perceptive difference.

[@chomp_5412]

What’s your favorite video game soundtrack?

[@chomp_5412]

I like Hollow Knight a lot btw

[@leolovsen1448]

When I listen to music with headphones (that you plug in to the ear) and yawn, the pitch of the music changes. Why?

[@Cohlonn]

I'm late for an answer but anyway: The Pitch changes because of the connection between your middle ear and your mouth/nose via the auditory tube. When you're yawning the pressure inside of the tube changes, so that the air is vibrating in another frequency aka the pitch changes.

[@leolovsen1448]

@@Cohlonn wow that's really cool!! Thank you!

[@chronon8782]

yes, mixing at a low volume is a godsend, i recently started at -30db and it is amazing

[@RotemSivanGuitar]

LOVE it. hugs.