DOES MW3 ZOMBIES SUCK? The Act Man VS Milo (No Nonsense Podcast Ep 01)

Welcome to the FIRST EVER No Nonsense Podcast, featuring ‪@TheActMan‬ and debating if MW3 Zombies SUCKS or not.
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[@TheActMan]

There was not a scrap of nonsense in this podcast. Thanks for having me on, man!!

[@crawredbull]

Please return for a Halo 5 episode!🙏

[@The_Babe]

Woohoo! This is awesome, was just about to watch your "changing the Halo TV show" video, I finished the season yesterday and enjoyed it despite its shortcomings.

[@dylanhopkins14]

Been following you for about a year now bud, loved seeing you both together talking about the topic as a whole. I also agree with your tweet. Mw3 zombies and the entire game is ass and it is indeed depressing. For anyone with any resistance.. go watch The act mans videos talking about how World at war was a masterpiece. Exactly the things cod is missing today. You're doing good shit with your videos sir keep it going

[@KingLynnardThaGawd]

Please do more content together

[@cubo_rojo7283]

Great crossover man, I really enjoy your opinion on every cod,I truly wish you would give MWZ another chance, I think its a great and different experience.

[@DestinyCool202]

Honestly never thought I’d see these guys talking to each other, but this is pretty cool.

[@STUFFfromthegooddays]

Pretty sure they played halo together couple years ago

[@Richtofens_revenge]

Yeah

[@crawredbull]

What do you mean? They played and streamed Halo Infinte multiplayer togheter

[@STUFFfromthegooddays]

@@crawredbull yeah, halo infinites launch Is when they first were introduced to each other. Milo has a VOD of it

[@Miniman15]

It's a crossover episode!

[@nuggetclone8406]

Now this is a crossover I didn’t expect

[@evans29091998]

Was about to comment exactly that. Kinda love it tho

[@Richtofens_revenge]

Same

[@HiddenXperia]

LMAO this is the most surreal crossover, when are we getting together for a 3 way gentleman?

[@35shadowthehedgehog]

Eyyy that sounds great. By the way, have you played Lethal Company yet? It seems right up your alley.

[@Dave_Chrome]

the 116 podcast!

[@OT_Sauce]

Ayoooo

[@chonkychookie6949]

lets go! Id love to see you all on a podcast.

[@Miniman15]

Four way? Bring me on too?

[@ItsAGorillaBaby]

The most ambitious cross-over event since the Jimmy-Timmy Power Hour Trilogy.

[@gingah755]

Bro just unlocked a memory i completely forgot about.

[@christopherjordan2890]

What a throwback lmao

[@enbeats2762]

BANGER movies 🤣🤣🤣

[@MrAjking808]

Just stop

[@bradleyjenkins2271]

Petition to get these in an audio format to listen to while at work!!!

[@MrRoflWaffles]

will look into ways I can do this for you!

[@TheRedrocketrover]

Please do! You have a good voice too listen too 😅

[@xo999.]

youtube premium😏

[@callumlyons7905]

create a Spotify podcast account?

[@harmoen]

Go to KZbin on your web browser on your phone and it should let you play it in the background (depending on what browser/version you have)

[@rjreynolds5069]

YES MILO MAKE THIS PODCAST PERMANENT IT WILL CARRY THE ZOMBIES COMMUNITY. GOAT GOAT GOAT

[@beardeddude6888]

🐐

[@eugenebean234]

lol remember zombroz?

[@antibuddhhaa8951]

Two people just discussing their opinions and not letting the other’s pov upset them if almost thought I’d ever see the day this was a pleasant experience thank you both

[@bobdarrick2628]

No problem bhaisaab!

[@BiqRedOne]

These videos are honestly what the zombies community needs right now, you’ve been killing it recently with all these thoughtful discussion videos. Btw I think the “what’s your favourite zombies game and map” question is an excellent way to cap off each podcast and should be a constant!

[@thomashopkins9854]

I’m one minute into this, and I already know I’m going to love this. I’ve been a fan of The Act Man for quite some time now, and I just discovered Milo about two weeks ago but I’m already a fan!

[@pejabob3180]

This is, without a doubt, a no nonsense moment. Can't wait to watch more

[@limitbreak2966]

Yea I like this, I don’t usually listen to podcasts but 27:02 yea the time limit is just a bit too short, an extra 30 minutes would be PERFECT, and at max extra 60. No time limit would be awful though

[@bobdarrick2628]

Nice one bhaisaab

[@pyxlhertz]

Waffles PODCAST? I can’t wait to see more episodes this is awesome :)

[@blazevoptixzz9748]

HOLY huge W! This is so cool, please let these be an ongoing thing!

[@NEHPETS1999]

loving these different video formats and branching out to different things, also looking forward to more podcasts too hopefully! keep it up, loving the content

[@justanotheraccounthere2014]

This MWZ situation reminds me the age old question of whether to change a large portion of the game to get new players at the risk of losing many or stay in the old tradition to keep the old guards around but posing a significant barrier of entry to new comers. It is very rare to see level headed discussion on this, so kudos to both parties. On one hand, a failure in adaptation might lose the old audience without capturing a significant amount of old ones. On the other hand, keeping the old tradition might lead to the road of arena shooters, as the old guards die out the audience gets smaller and smaller with passing time.

[@shianemi7595]

id rather it keep its old audience and very slowly but eventually die out while at least its identity is still intact. imo its too late for that because mwz is the living embodiment of identity crisis. if anyone likes mwz chances are that its someone who never even liked zombies and probably prefer warzone and dmz because honestly if you ask me mwz isnt even zombies and just because they put literal zombies in it still doesn’t make it cod zombies

[@panzershreck8077]

Why not have both? Are people this genuinely blind to the fact this is a billion dollar company making these video games? They can have the budget to make 3 round based maps AND a dmz mode in one game. But activision realises that they'll have retar*s arguing over if we should have rb or dmz lmfao. Stupidity at its finest. I'd bet you a million dollars if people just said no to this garbage we'd get a proper triple A made video game like the golden days of COD.

[@ASTRONIGHTCORE]

Losing the old audience is bad because they are die hard, new audience would drop it instantly

[@MrSoldierpants]

The golden days of COD are when according to you? They will NEVER make the community happy. This is the same community that asks for the same 3 maps every year. While also complaining about recycled content.

[@panzershreck8077]

@MrSoldierpants Golden days when there was actual innovation? Creativitiy? New ideas? Just look at how many iconic things there are in the old cods. Each one from bo1 to mw2 to bo2 had so much to them with some of the best campaigns we've ever had, best zombies experiences, and best multiplayer experiences. What do we have now? Warzone map with zombies placed on it? Warzone with campaign slapped on it? Multiplayer using maps made 20 years ago because they're incompetent at making anything new and intriguing. It's no wonder why people want the same 3 old maps back, it's cus these devs are garbage at their job ( well truthfully speaking it's activision realising they don't need to give any development time to their studios since they know everyone is gon buy their dogshit anyways). But hey, it is what it is. The last cod game I bought was cod ww2, so it's not like I gotta worry bout a bunch of slop eaters playing their yearly garbage. I should probably worry for when the day comes that all these consoomers leave COD and go to infest other beloved franchises with their blind consumerism

[@gobreen4391]

i love that both milo and the act man are normal rational human beings and can have a normal conversation about what is bad and good and not just yell at each other over twitter

[@aBadWizard]

LET'S GO! Milo & ActMan podcast?! Christmas came early!

[@alexanderdean4603]

Love this, I just love this. I've been watching both channels for quite a long time, love to see two great creators come together!

[@m1r4499]

Playing some mob with this in the background. Chef's kiss

[@KooFsWing]

love this and glad you are doing a podcast style video hopefully you can get all the old pals on here keep it up milo!!

[@feistyylilthing]

i always love seeing my favorite tubers collabing out of no where

[@icantbelieveitsnotbuttersw2624]

I do hope this a trend that continues, cause I haven't watched your content since bo3 days and it feels very refreshing to see talking head pieces more than just guides or lore. I dont even have mw3 or played any zombies past bo3 but have been watching several of the talking pieces with the whiteboard and the hidden xperia vid. idk if this is popular but I'll stick around if this is the future trend

[@MrFanservice]

a point on the time limit that I feel wasn't touched on is how it's essentially another form of manufactured incentivization that the game throws at you. Because Milo basically hit the nail on the head; without it everything you're doing in a match basically means nothing. If you could just sit in one match the whole time, learn the whole mode from match one and just farm everything out in one long sitting, you now no longer have a reason to come back and do it again. "Why would I go through to tier 3 if I already did it?". The timer forces you to actually choose what you want to do in a match, which again means nothing if all you're doing is the same contract missions over and over again. Honestly, the whole mode this year just lacks any sort of soul

[@MrFanservice]

I know, essayist in the comments. But thinking about it, this is kind of why Gorod Krovi is silently the greatest zombies map of all time. Cause yes, it's hard as all hell. However, it's arguably the only map we've seen that has perfectly blended the traditional zombies ideas with the ideas of "contract/exfil zombies". In the map you have the traditional wave gameplay that zombies is known for. But once you start doing the easter egg, there comes a point to when it basically becomes a contract mode due to the trophies

[@panzershreck8077]

​@MrFanservice Making a map like Gorod Krovi would require devs knowing how to make something good and passionate. That will never happen again with the way these studios are setup. They all make their new games to have people endlessly buying MTX and trying to artificially increase playtime. Zombies is dead now. Not because of activision, but because of the masses buying these games.

[@MrFanservice]

@@panzershreck8077 it honestly made me so sad, coming to the realization to that as an older zombies fan I am no longer the target audience. sure I'm happy people can find enjoyment from the game, it just sucks that the original identity/mode had to die for it

[@panzershreck8077]

@@MrFanservice eh, people will realise soon the mode has nothing fun to offer. You need to realise these people spend $90 CAD on this garbage. They'll do anything to defend it and convince people they're having fun. And activision tries to reinforce the players purchase by giving them weapon levels for playing the mode so you feel like there's a sense of progression playing the mode when it's all just artificial progression. But yeah the games aren't made for us anymore mate, it's meant for idiots who will consume any product no matter how bad it is. Once you realise that, it's time to just move on from the series as a whole 👍.

[@thebrownbear1234]

I’m super hyped to see these podcasts. More Milo please. 🙏🏻

[@tubbisaurusrex]

I really love some of my favorite creators collaborating like this. Great stuff!

[@bkrboyy93]

I love this! I need this! Love listening to you talk about CoD and Zombies

[@sinistersurfer9249]

Two of my favorite dudes having a no nonsense discussion. This was excellent, please do more of these milo. You're interviewing skills are excellent!

[@rorywallis6958]

What the actual f*** lol this is awesome 😂 Never thought this collaboration would ever happen haha

[@findlaybrookman7779]

LETTS GOO didn't expect to get a full podcast keep it going!!

[@nadirbaitsaleem7270]

Can't believe the video breakdown on people roasting The Act Man lead to this 😂 You love to see it

[@MangledMangler]

This is amazing, have enjoyed both of your content for awhile! Definitely want another Episode of this tho plz

[@swagmoney2342]

A surprise to be sure… But a welcome one!! Love that you guys got together for this! Two of my favorites in one video let’s go!!

[@loganduncan4837]

This was an amazing first podcast episode! Absolutely love it and I can't wait for more!

[@GeometricalPhur]

Huge fan of long podcast type videos! Keep up the grind Milo! Nice to see ActMan feature ❤

[@otterpuente]

2 great KZbinrs collabing/debating. You love to see it.

[@rebelwhite]

That Yoteslaya shout brought back so many Borderlands 2 legendary weapon guides flooding back to mind, such a huge fan of his content way back when. RIP.

[@HotPocketEnjoyer]

been following both of you forever literally! this was awesome!

[@DizzyEyes94]

This is honestly exactly what I would have preferred to see once you first mentioned Act Man's hot take. This is the kind of conversation I wanna see about MWZ before I even consider getting it.

[@steelkirby794]

I'd love you to have Reed (Radaustin27) be a guest on the podcast. You and him tbh are the main guys I go for lore info back in the day. Be interesting to hear both of your takes and debates on the whole zombies storyline and where it's headed.. hell, get the og zombros podcast JohnnyJ25 and Mcsporzhawk while we're at it too but that's just wishful thinking. Glad this is a new thing you're doing Milo and looking forward to newer episodes

[@Muphlez]

This is like seeing a crossover that I never thought I’d ever see lol

[@nhilly1021]

Two of the most interesting people in the cod community coming together is always a good thing. I just hope the higher ups listen to this

[@JadonKaiser]

You mentioned the possibility of a Gulf War zombies teaser event in MWZ a couple of videos ago and the idea has me so hyped.

[@robertscott5663]

Love this, long format discussion really shows perspective

[@TheAHuman]

The No Nonsense Podcast is already going up as one of my must listens along side Adeptus Ridiculous and Trash Taste

[@zyzir]

this and official podcast

[@twaubizzy]

Loved to see both of my favorite CoD/zombies creators on one podcast style video. We need more of these collabs! Maybe do one with Lex and Noah if possible

[@aBadWizard]

ActMan keeps pointing out the exact things I've seen many people say, and I don't think he's stealing their opinion and parroting it to play to that audience. I think ActMan has probably played a decent amount of CoD Zombies over the years, and he has every right to point out the egregious misteps he sees from his perspective as a more OG CoD Zombies enjoyer. Lots of us more OG CoD Zombies enjoyers hear his points and we know that he feels just how we do. Betrayed and abandoned as not just a customer, but as an entire faithful community...

[@ColinAmes]

I remember act man not liking even bo3 I’m pretty sure, he’s always had strange zombie takes

[@mex4071]

@@ColinAmesno

[@aBadWizard]

​​@@ColinAmes Looks like you were right, but he says here that he came to like Bo3 after trying Bo4.

[@darkvoidb9717]

The act man doesn't know anything about zombies lop he just regurgitating what everyone be saying.

[@CynicMichael]

Most people dont realize Shi No Numa was the first zommbies map ever to be it's own map or have its own map layout

[@LukaiVT]

I need more of this!!! Would love to see more guests on and as a custom zombies fan maybe a guest that make/play custom maps opinions on mw3 zombies would be interesting!

[@jstkilledwho6944]

How crazy 2 of my favorite people to watch, having a conversation about cod zombies, this is awesome

[@TaylorLaFountain]

Been watching since bo2, you’re going off with the content lately bro keep it up!

[@melmintg4320]

Brooooo I’ve been asking you todo this for ages on Twitter 🙌🏼🙌🏼 this is my night sorted!

[@victormoreno5386]

Loved this conversation. We all have our criticisms, but one thing remains pretty similar. We all had one moment in zombies that hooked us. And a lot of our experiences are so different and I love it.

[@NastynateH-mp6jp]

Collab I never expected 😭 this awesome

[@Vazel]

Most unexpected collab ever. HUGE W

[@Freckleston1]

Yes these are gonna SLAP, hope to see more

[@SHINYGOLDSSTARZ]

YES, YES , YES. PLS KEEP THIS UP!!!!!!! THIS IS GOLDEN! FINALLY A PODCAST ABOUT ZOMBIES, AND CALL OF DUTY.....GAMING IN GENERAL!!!

[@dizzyreaper101]

I think I need a recap of the whole zombies story line to get it refreshed in my head

[@vindicta7130]

Love watching both of you guys lol this is awesome

[@slimeloe]

great podcast act man should definitely come back on sometime, the entire thing was really chill

[@lordoflucis1173]

Such a cool video, Glad you two did this ❤

[@literarydemon8496]

Excited for this podcast! Maybe chapters in the future eps?

[@swishaburna9172]

The crossover dawg I love these guys

[@taiguy53]

36:38 A time limit difficulty scaling would be really nice honestly. It would be cool to see dynamic changes with the zones as the timer goes down. Perhaps they could make it so that the Tier 2 and 3 zones get larger every 5-10 minutes or so, essentially pushing out the Tier 1 zone from the map eventually. Then by the time the initial 45 minutes is up, the Tier 1 zone is non-existent on the map, and the Tier 3 zone has stretched out to be where the Tier 2 zone initially was at the start of the game. This also gives the Tier 3 zone an opportunity to have an exfil point, and to make exfils more difficult at this point of the game, they can now increase the amount of zombies that spawn when calling an exfil. It really would make it feel that the longer you play, the more difficult it becomes.

[@the_seer_0421]

And then you know, it would actually feel like a zombie *outbreak.* They should hire you no joke.

[@An_Actual_Fish]

I think something nobody talks about is the art direction of the zombies themselves. Like the zombies and bosses look different. About 400 ish years passed in the dank aether and it kinda shows especially with manglers and deciples. Manglers had to improve and repair their armor with modern looking ones to keep up. And deciples got a complete visual overhaul. Mimics and abominations tho remain mostly unchanged. But I like the art direction of spores and gore, and warm orange and red color tones and whatnot. It's sick

[@xXxKAMIKAZExXx]

Two of my favourite KZbinrs doing a podcast together? This is awesome!

[@blackopsrocky622]

LET'S GO! My 2 fave video game analyzers in one!!!

[@joshuaarriero]

Yesssssss i was hoping you would naturally just make a podcast

[@crossface-qz4dm]

34:00 Glad to hear him mention yoteslaya man. Brings back memories. Gone but never forgotten. 🙏

[@aliceinbunnyland]

you know, with this convo about the issue with difficulty in the tier system. i had this thought that it would be kinda cool for the tier zones to grow over time so that while tier 3 is only the middle part when you spawn in, by the time the timer runs out, the entire map is tier 3.

[@AyeItsJT]

This is the biggest crossover of the century

[@kevinghazzard35]

So didn’t expect this. I will watch rest tmrw I’m so intrigued

[@Supersonic005]

My favorite two youtubers together at last and i'm all here for it 🥳🥳🥳

[@Nagria2112]

very respectful, good convo. keep it up boys. (i made a long comment how i feel)

[@PoppoClips]

Literally only 2 KZbinrs I consistently watch these days, awesome collab

[@BBB_photography_adventures]

love the idea for a no nonsense podcast especially at the moment would love to here you talk to more zombies youtubers and discuss MW3 and suggestion for making it better

[@jorgeadame5019]

Need more conversations like this!

[@DaboiSigma]

First started watching milo during bo2 and actman during halo reach or odst so its dope to see yall working together

[@Ben-yu8in]

Ayyye I'm here for this. Please do more podcasts

[@jordangraham8610]

I absolutely love this new type of video, I always thought milo would be good at podcasts and I'm glad he's breaching out to this zone.

[@3hermans]

YES!!! A Milo podcast!!! ❤️

[@cjsayers3346]

Easy solution for the match time limit/ difficulty curve issues. Keep the 3 zone aspect, but as time rolls on, increase the difficulty. Like the opening room of Foresaken, but a little slower, obviously.

[@AGGaming...]

this Video was great seeing both of ur guys takes on the game, perfect merge

[@I_O246]

I think the biggest problem with the new zombies mode is everything is recycled. We’ve seen so much of this stuff before: whereas previous code were able to recycle something into something that is new. I also think we were spoiled in bo3 with how much content we got that now it’s expected with every new cod to have 8 maps for a whole year.

[@AnthonyGray]

I’d love to see yall collab again fr

[@ololadin91]

Nice to see 2 of my favorit youtubers in one video together. ❤ Maybe you guys should talk again when next years CoD comes out 😊

[@matthewstanley4597]

I'm new to your content and really love your views ✨️ keep up the hard work and amazing content ✨️

[@ItsBuzzer]

Please do more of these around zombies such a good video milo 💯

[@pinkfrappe_]

There CAN BE a normal Exfil in the T2 zone. I’ve seen it spawn on the sportsball field and somewhere else roughly in the northwest of T2, I can’t remember the exact spot on that one. And the difficulty does increase when the timer ticks down, but not until the last 15 minutes. As the Aether Storm expands, the zombies inside of it are one tier of difficulty higher than the zone you’re in up to a max of T3. All while the storm deals DoT that I’m not sure if PhD Flopper negates. It’s not a good enough difficulty curve to warrant there being a timer, but it is technically there.

[@TheEgoChallenge]

I think that the main issue for me, and this goes all the way back to Cold War, Zombies needs a set cast, not operators. How can you connect to the story when your playing as Skeletor or Lara Croft? Mob of The Dead was good because you played as mobster inmates, BO3 was good because we had Primis.

[@TransfiguringFire]

I first and foremost want to say that you, sir, are by far the best Zombies KZbinr. You are incredibly clear and concise. You have single-handedly helped me throughout the years in my Zombies gameplay. Without you, I would have never discovered so many secrets. IMO, this MW Zombies is to help satisfy our itch for a new Zombies while simultaneously attempting to recruit new Zombies players. One thing I think we should remember is that Zombies is a Black Ops mode and the Zombies that have been released outside of the Black Ops franchise has been different from the traditional mode. It goes without saying that I sure hope Black Ops 6 provides us with the best Zombies ever with intricate Easter eggs, secrets, new original maps, a solid and immersive story, characters, guns, and enemies while maintaining the traditional Zombies “feel.”

[@wailingbridge3872]

I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THIS COLLAB, would love to see Milo and ActMan get together for another collab again

[@drsolbasol8246]

Need more of these podcasts, this was great

[@wksers_serks]

To be completely honest, i would absolutely love more podcasts (no nonsense or not xD) like this. Always been a fan of sharing opinions in a reasonable and peaceful manner (y'know, unlike Twitter for example lol). The "we can disagree on things but we're still friends/cool about it at the end of day" So yeah, if you ever find this sort of videos up your alley and want to make more of em? By all means do it. it's quite entertaining and interesting to watch (or listen to).

[@akt1vist1]

what an amazing crossover!!

[@XxAW3SOM3GAM3rxX]

just seeing the title brought the biggest smile to my face

[@tabdggaming]

I really hope that the developers are listening to this, they need to listen to every word said in this podcast. great job guys, keep it going

[@nguyen123ighinee]

Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes and YES! 2023 needed this man to make a podcast!!!!

[@TheMarioMartinez]

Amazing! The two biggest gaming personalities in a podcast! 🔥

[@obito7831]

I think the zombie health and danger level should scale with exfil streaks. There are leaks of exfil streaks and bonuses, but maybe the map can get harder the more times you've successfuly exfiled. This might be a good way to keep the game easier for more casual players and give more experienced players a challenge.

[@Deathmare235]

Wouldn’t make sense given you have to join lobbies, also how would it work

[@TheHailos]

IVE WAITED YEARS FOR A MILO PODCAST LETS FUCKING GO