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Does Narcissism Predict Belief in Astrology? I DEBUNK Famous Study - The Delineation #25

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@jessicawalters3032
@jessicawalters3032 11 ай бұрын
Your natal chart can show your shortcomings, flaws, ego blind spots and mistakes when interacting with others. A narc does not want to learn these things about themselves.
@chpoules
@chpoules 11 ай бұрын
Totally, it can humble you and doing so, help you change for the better.
@TheShannMann
@TheShannMann 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely this
@seenuinadream
@seenuinadream 11 ай бұрын
what i love about this is that it’s proving that some “scientific” studies don’t run their samples as authentically as others 😬
@karlagreen782
@karlagreen782 11 ай бұрын
My ex fiancé is a huge narcissist and he would tell me I was heathen for studying astrology. When we were around people we knew, he would tell them I was into witchcraft. Can’t believe I was ever engaged to that man!
@christinarichie6171
@christinarichie6171 11 ай бұрын
Heretic means being able to choose your own path/belief. I know you said heathen. Most people are idiots and no nothing. He is just the norm 🤣
@venusstromberg1500
@venusstromberg1500 11 ай бұрын
Good riddance.
@dianeaishamonday9125
@dianeaishamonday9125 11 ай бұрын
I'm horribly sorry you had to put up with such nonsense and am incredibly glad you're away from him. Now for a Mars in Virgo moment: *Fiancé Male has one "e,"according to French grammar Sending love 🤍🤍🤍
@athomewithhollie
@athomewithhollie 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if it’s because ppl who have knowledge of astrology tend to have a higher knowledge of self? That’s why I love astrology, helped me understand myself more. I can see how a non astrology lover may misclassify that as narcissism… but chile astrology isn’t always positive, there’s several placements in my chart I haven’t made peace with yet lol. But I’m glad I can identify it and work on it.
@christinarichie6171
@christinarichie6171 11 ай бұрын
They don't want you knowing yourself. They're not able to manipulate you as much. So they smear and defame people . Even shame and ridicule. Oldest trick in the book.
@Crescent_Moon_Rising
@Crescent_Moon_Rising 11 ай бұрын
I know I'm a little narcissistic. I've learnt so much about myself these past few years, my chart, my attachment style, my enneagram my mbti. I'm trying to be better. I'm working on myself.
@lowbrowrodeo
@lowbrowrodeo 11 ай бұрын
Egocentrism is not the same as narcissism or vice versa. Narcissism is a personality disorder.
@cassandraseven3478
@cassandraseven3478 11 ай бұрын
It's called Pathological Narcissistic Disorder. I heard it's been removed from the latest DSM, don't know if it's true. I had one of those as a neighbor for three years, drove me nuts, eventually had to file a restraining order against her. Didn't change her behavior. I didn't move because of her but it was a bonus to get away.
@athomewithhollie
@athomewithhollie 11 ай бұрын
The intelligence thing is crazy because yes if you rely only on sun signs you probably just don’t know yet OR maybe you don’t posses the intelligence to understand how deep astrology goes… I find that when I’m talking about astrology to people who don’t understand astrology, I may as well be speaking another language.
@Malaology
@Malaology 11 ай бұрын
Accepting BS "scientific" studies negatively corresponds with critical thinking. TY Cam!! 💜
@finurra3905
@finurra3905 11 ай бұрын
Taurus Sun here, the second Jupiter entered Taurus, I was stuck at 155-160 lbs, no matter how much I fasted, no matter how many workouts PER DAY I completed, no matter how much water and rest I got in between workouts and per night..yet, the second he fell asleep, my weight dropped to low 150's and I've been steadily racing down into the 140's..my Goal weight is 125 and I set it since April 2022, halfway there now but it's been a painful year and 4 months so far. Sorry but if it weren't for astrology I don't know how else to explain this. I mean..seriously...I have literal proof in my life that shows the astrology closely aligned with huge events in my life.
@Scorpiomoonactivities
@Scorpiomoonactivities 11 ай бұрын
OMG SAME
@allaynferry8746
@allaynferry8746 11 ай бұрын
ap·​o·​phe·​nia ˌa-pə-ˈfē-nē-ə : the tendency to perceive a connection or meaningful pattern between unrelated or random things (such as objects or ideas) What psychologists call apophenia-the human tendency to see connections and patterns that are not really there-gives rise to conspiracy theories. Now you know. Cam it is fun to explore stuff. This was really fun, and you did a great job breaking it down and finding the flaws. I love it! These ancient arts/ sciences are still a mystery to the “intellectual” who generally don’t believe in a higher power……or anything they’re unable to understand. Acupuncture for example has a high success rate for multiple body issues, but science can’t figure it out. Homeopathy as well is often debunked - but vaccines are based on homeopathic principles.
@mistellechambless8673
@mistellechambless8673 11 ай бұрын
I really liked this video!! I personally have used my birth chart to look at both my strengths and flaws. When I listen to placement videos and I hear something that points out my shadow I have a little cringe moment and then try to work on why it triggered me. Though, what’s funny about that is I have also listened to videos with someone who has a certain placement, and when we hit the parts where I felt they should have a cringe moment it seemed to just run right through them like a sieve. Then at the the end they only heard the positive traits of their placement. I mean, whatever. Who am I to say? All I know is that overall it amazing to watch someone see themselves and learn who they are as a person. All in all it seems to work positively for the person at whatever level they are at in that moment.
@krystalcharlotte
@krystalcharlotte 11 ай бұрын
Haha this was great. Thank you for being wild and brave enough to put your options out here and break down that study. It was awesome to listen to and you have very solid points. I’m currently enrolled in learning astrology and this was timely :)
@Heidi534
@Heidi534 11 ай бұрын
This was fun. Thanks for the laughs. It always blows my mind how little people understand. Most of the people who enjoy Astrology are in it for personal understanding, self improvment, healing and honestly laughs (nothing like getting called out by your chart) Its a language to understand yourself, your career, your view of the world. It adds meaning and value. And people diagnosed with NPD probably aren't interested in any of that. Though my ex, who was definitely not a good person, did enjoy calling me a space ra....for enjoying astrology. That made me laugh to the point of spitting out my oj.
@chocoboasylum
@chocoboasylum 11 ай бұрын
Wasn't it also predicted (via astrology) that belief in such things as astrology was going to become looked down upon more than usual the coming* years? Kind of fits that bill. I forget who put it that way exactly, though Also, I know a legitimate narcissist (she's latched herself onto my dad) and she does 'believe' in astrology. But her 'belief'' only goes so far to convince other people that them meeting her was destined. She also claims to be psychic, also only so she can claim to know things about other people that even they themselves don't know. It's used as a manipulation tactic only
@blackboxgoddess8747
@blackboxgoddess8747 11 ай бұрын
Cam. This raised my back up like a cat about to attack. Ive been here.. Ive been all Leo like , big cat pissed off energy and it truly had me attract more of these negative traits from others. All progressive concepts had to come from a Narcissistic energy in the beginning It takes allot of energy to stay the focus and block out the distractions. If that's NPD, then so be it. Im a HSP. INFJ and because, I believe that the energies I feel daily can be relieved by understanding the cosmic weather then I just might be a Narcissistic right!? Wrong!! Lol It helps me and many others to be aware of my own shadows self and when to use her and when not.. If your into the idea that there's a spiritual war out there with new Spiritual belief vs Religious belief then your definitely going to understand that being a person with some Narcissistic attributes if it helps you to IGNORE THESE PLATFORM GRABBING NARCISSISTS then fine so be it.. So basically, answer yourself this question.. Who was it that said.. Knowing Thyself.. Knowledge is Power etc etc.. Socrates.. Know thyself.... Knowing yourself is the beginning of all wisdom... They too in their time used Astrology. Even if it was through a professional Astrology SCIENTIST.. Fighting a War that others create because they dont have the "Spiritual Evolvement" and can energetically connect with a higher humanitarium concept of collective experience, IE.(Astrology😂) They all know its a correct science, It scares them because it challenges their Ego who they've created to feel safe and Identify with being a sheep.. My favourite is.. Rise and Rise again until Lambs become Lions.. Keep on roaring Cam if your up against another lion.. If their Lambs... Keep your Leo mind high and walk on by..
@hailey_holmez
@hailey_holmez 11 ай бұрын
Proud of you for breaking out of the mold a bit and breaking down this shit ❤
@Iquey
@Iquey 11 ай бұрын
The big five that is "disagreeableness" is probably neuroticism, or the tendency to look for negative things, be cynical, pessimistic, paranoid or anxious. 😂
@nancypanzica5539
@nancypanzica5539 10 ай бұрын
I can’t believe I am just seeing this now as I try to keep up with you weekly! I read that study a few weeks ago as part of some preparation for a possible PhD dissertation and couldn’t believe how flawed their work was! Thanks to speaking on this!
@sarawaggle
@sarawaggle 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I actually got into astrology much further in 2020 bc I was looking for an explaination for everything. I’ve appreciated knowing more about myself using my dark natal chart to help me work thru life circumstances.
@mindbodysoleil
@mindbodysoleil 11 ай бұрын
Why is it always “believe in astrology”… the wording is strange if you STUDY astrology. I don’t believe in math; I was forced to take geometry in high school. I follow the transits… I don’t “believe” in the transits, like I would Santa. My favorite question to naysayers is “what exactly do YOU KNOW about astrology again?…” Go Cam! Great Delineation
@athomewithhollie
@athomewithhollie 11 ай бұрын
They should have found their sample in the comment sections of serious KZbin videos lol. The ones talking about charts, planets and houses.
@brisay1844
@brisay1844 11 ай бұрын
I just Love your delineations. You always bring new and interesting information to the Forefront. You are such a blessing to us.
@user-bm4pj1md6g
@user-bm4pj1md6g 11 ай бұрын
And this, Cam, is why I love you! You are, like me, not a "conspiracy theorist" but a "conspiracy noticer." It's a sign of critical thinking. I'm very glad that you said it out loud - the general astrology community is very authoritarian towards the main stream narratives. I've no doubt that they ostracize astrologers like you. That's why I joined your Patreon (but then dropped it when I had some issues with the chat format, and during the short time I was watching it there didn't seem to be anything interesting going on). In Patreon, do you actually go into some analysis of mundane events and situations more than you do on KZbin? I'd like to hear your views on that. Is it worth giving your Patreon another try?
@whentheethersspeak.theethe2517
@whentheethersspeak.theethe2517 11 ай бұрын
Looking forward to hearing this knowledge. Texas in the building. ❤❤ Thank you for sharing your gifts with us. ⭐️
@user-zk8ue2uc9f
@user-zk8ue2uc9f 11 ай бұрын
The same assumption he could make about eating chocolate ...😂!
@reggaeluv2000
@reggaeluv2000 11 ай бұрын
Lol @ ot being a Facebook study. That's enough to just say no thank you to the results. Good video
@cassandraseven3478
@cassandraseven3478 11 ай бұрын
Astrophysicist mathematician James McCanney (taught at Cornell for two years and saw first-hand how poorly educated astronomers are in both) says that when Mercury goes retrograde it loses its electrical connection with the sun. The physical body is an electric system. I'm a zero-degree Mercury-ruled Virgo and extremely sensitive to retrograde periods. One morning I got up as usual, bumped into the door jamb on the way to the kitchen where I then spilled coffee beans all over the floor, checked the Ephemeris, yep, had just entered the shadow zone. An editor at the NEJM (New England Journal of Medicine) and an editor at the Lancet, have said you can't believe many of the research studies published these days. "They" now have the science to prove that men can give birth and breast-feed. (poor kid, what kind of chemicals and hormones is he getting in that breast "milk"?) Asha Logos channel said something valuable that I treasure: he called it "faith-based science."
@Mizzkeej
@Mizzkeej 11 ай бұрын
Exactly ! I’m excited for this , people always say this I have read articles on this and I was also repulsed ! 😢
@Victoria_Bryant
@Victoria_Bryant 11 ай бұрын
When I went to Lowell Observatory in August (it was my first visit as well) when it was the full moon, I asked the guide how she felt about the full moon in Pisces and she shut me down immediately and said astrology is not a real science and they don't discuss it there and i felt very uncomfortable after that. Lol. It was super freaking cool seeing Saturn in the telescopes that night, it was closer to earth so it showed up very clear! I do think alot of people don't understand the depth of astrology and only go surface level. There is so much to learn, alot i have zero clue about still but would love to learn. Thanks cam for the videos you make! : )
@christinarichie6171
@christinarichie6171 11 ай бұрын
She basically shamed you in front of a group because your not going along with the hive mind. Stand your ground the next time.
@Seeker-And-Sought
@Seeker-And-Sought 11 ай бұрын
It really sucks that you felt shut down, but it's important to keep in mind the other side of the equation. Tour guides have rules for what they can and cannot say on the job - plus if she knows nothing about astrology, she wouldn't have been able to answer your question even if she was allowed to. Also, for people who work in or adjacent to STEM fields, validating what is perceived by most as a pseudoscience (regardless of if it is or isn't) is not a good career move.
@Victoria_Bryant
@Victoria_Bryant 11 ай бұрын
@@Seeker-And-Sought I understood their side of things, I just felt embarrassed is all. Lol. It was still a very cool experience.
@JoshalynnLove
@JoshalynnLove 11 ай бұрын
W Cam debunking
@markeberle3984
@markeberle3984 11 ай бұрын
Totally agree with astrology belief correlation with narcissistic tendencies. I mean, how many times do people put in these comment sections I'm a blah sun, blah rising, blah moon, etc.. No one cares but you, seriously, no one but you.
@sarah-anneperry6932
@sarah-anneperry6932 11 ай бұрын
In a Quebec tv show, they invited an actress who had an interest in astrology so she could speak about it just for them to bring this article up and humiliate her in front of everyone. I wonder who's the narcissist.
@jaybird_boxing
@jaybird_boxing 11 ай бұрын
While I'm guilty of using Facebook daily, I'll say this : sample population and selection pools are designed to elicit a predictive outcome. Diversity of data, similarly to diversity, generally speaking, is our greatest asset as a people.
@eyelore6894
@eyelore6894 11 ай бұрын
saw an older bk&white film praising new technique of heart surgery that put asbestos around the heart. that was considered innovative science.
@Mizzkeej
@Mizzkeej 11 ай бұрын
Cam, i think people want to share and use others charts , hence why we study celebrities charts and families charts ! But when sharing information because of confidentiality people must use their own chart or if they get permission to use someone else’s , but it’s often easier to discuss your own unless your trusted and well known and given permission, of course .
@ariellebianchimano1548
@ariellebianchimano1548 11 ай бұрын
Cracking up at "since I'm single here's my chart". I'm sure there is a lid for every pot, but his chart would be a parade of red flags for me
@musliovci5719
@musliovci5719 11 ай бұрын
I love you Cam, thank you for protecting our astrology!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@extraordinarynobody
@extraordinarynobody 11 ай бұрын
I'm laughing as you read the article, because it's so contradictory. "We're very scientific and smart and not at all narcissistic!" Yet me, a non-scientist, recognizes all the flaws in their "scientific" study with basic knowledge of the scientific method. And generally, you release your study if it's conclusive. So many flaws. Lol
@amymartin7272
@amymartin7272 11 ай бұрын
How are the academic thoughts similar or different from the other developed nations as compared with the common narrative of the United States?
@christinarichie6171
@christinarichie6171 11 ай бұрын
The high priests don't want us mere mortals knowing the occult or any ancient knowledge.. Its interferes with their con.
@stunning-gems
@stunning-gems 11 ай бұрын
Hi Cam, its Pamela Richards. Loved this video, years ago I went to a Summer School in Oxford, UK organised by the Faculty of Astrological Studies and met an astrologer called Bernard Eccles (Bernard often contributed to the column written by the Late Jonathan Cainer). Bernard had recently lost his job with a woman's magazine called 'She' because he wrote some negative forecasts. The Magazine told him his readers don't want to read bad things in their 'Stars' even if it was true. We were all shocked - his colleagues confirmed that this did happen to him - God Help Us!
@chinchilling92
@chinchilling92 11 ай бұрын
20:35 -20:54 No wonder I've been deep into astrology since about 10 years old 😂. Lately though I'm really considering Christianity, and I'm starting to believe it's not something humans should be studying.
@aidanjohnwalsh2129
@aidanjohnwalsh2129 11 ай бұрын
I agree that it should not be a commercial topic for study, but I abandoned Christianity until I realized that Jesus is the Sun (of God).
@cassandraseven3478
@cassandraseven3478 11 ай бұрын
Most Christians don't know that the doctrine of reincarnation was part of the canon until the 6th C AD when it was removed by Emperor Justinian under pressure from the truly diabolical Theodora. (Asha Logos channel devoted a whole study to her). I learned about it from There Is A River, the bio of Edgar Cayce. It makes much better sense than the one-lifetime-then-heaven-or-hell version, merciful and just. Just takes longer to get back to the Creator than most think. And the group of Essenes that Mary, Joseph, Elizabeth were part of, studied astrology and numerology.
@chinchilling92
@chinchilling92 11 ай бұрын
@cassandraseven3478 From everything I've read and researched so far, reincarnation is not supported by the Bible. Also, the Essenes were a mystery cult; Helena Blavatsky talked about them and Jesus' involvement with them, but Blavatsky is probably one of the worst sources of truth that there could be in regard to Christianity because she was an occultist, founder of the Theosophical Society, and worshipped Lucifer. I'm not trying to stop anyone from studying astrology, and I'm not hating on Cam. I even got a reading from him as recently as a year and a half ago, but for years and years I was an actual Satanist, studied the occult, did magic (successfully) etc., and personally I am genuinely starting to believe, coming to my own conclusions, that Christianity and Jesus is the only truth and foundation we can consistently rely on. I don't think there are loopholes for a lot of new-age practices... No disrespect to anybody here, just some food for thought and maybe even a warning.
@venusstromberg1500
@venusstromberg1500 11 ай бұрын
Now the Tony Montana shirt yesterday makes sense 😂
@barbariancauldron3284
@barbariancauldron3284 11 ай бұрын
Loving these. Could you do a podcast about contradiction in a chart and transits? Example: Northnode conjunct natal southnode in the first house of Libra. I don’t see anyone talking about contradictions in a chart.
@NAVYA11
@NAVYA11 11 ай бұрын
this is really great .. lots to unpack. thx for another great video fwiw, the few highly narc ppl in my world strongly reject astrology bc how could they be given one natal chart for an entire lifetime - they hate the very idea of it ! Each of them have told me, either I can change the chart, or this is total BS.
@thetessaverse
@thetessaverse 11 ай бұрын
Apophenia: The perception of or belief in connectedness among unrelated phenomena.
@brookelahnan1748
@brookelahnan1748 11 ай бұрын
I for some reason thought that this video was going to be about possible birth chart placements that could make one potentially narcissistic. That would be something I would enjoy seeing. If that's a thing.
@SSHEX
@SSHEX 11 ай бұрын
😂 the way you talk cracks me up lol I hate articles like that, and it sucks because a lot of us literally just read headlines and then go on with our day. Because we’re not gonna sit there and read the whole thing and sometimes we can’t even read without paying! So we just keep that headline in our heads. Maybe one day we will get a legit study. Loved this episode it was very entertaining
@theself-healingpower9157
@theself-healingpower9157 11 ай бұрын
It is rather other way around. True narcissist would not dare to admit believing in it as it could cause injury to their public image.
@Crescent_Moon_Rising
@Crescent_Moon_Rising 11 ай бұрын
I love how passionate you are about astrology. I feel the same.
@amberbakker4755
@amberbakker4755 11 ай бұрын
Are they going to run the same study on different religious beliefs to debunk the various gods next? Let's be honest here; people who follow astrology may start out with a lot of narcissism when they first discover it, but those who take it seriously use it as a form of faith, guidance, personal development and a way of understanding the world around us. Perhaps a more appropriate study would have been determining the level of narcissism and intelligence to the level of understanding to astrology.
@seventycomforts
@seventycomforts 2 ай бұрын
I find it so ironic that the 9th house is also the house of astrology
@CorrinaBettencourt
@CorrinaBettencourt 11 ай бұрын
I love this - let's go!
@Hils_B
@Hils_B 11 ай бұрын
I am watching this delineation whilst drinking a refreshing glass of fresh orange juice (heavy pulp).
@eyelore6894
@eyelore6894 11 ай бұрын
critical thinking is sensible, there is always different view points. Carl Young had another way of perceiving astrology. scientists have there differences.
@TheShannMann
@TheShannMann 11 ай бұрын
A narcissist is totally not interested in self reflection or seeing themselves in a light thats not totally self aggrandized
@peacepantherproductions
@peacepantherproductions 11 ай бұрын
I don’t really think of it as science, I just know that it works (like many other unexplained things in our world),, .
@cristina_819
@cristina_819 11 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t it be great to format these arguments in a way that reached beyond the semantics of language while utilizing astrology? So many thoughts & ideas about that… Thank you for addressing the topic though, lots of amazing points 🫶🏽
@urthshu
@urthshu 11 ай бұрын
I would argue they found youngish females who seek attention on social media tend to use sun sign astrology as an additional means to talk about themselves
@julowens8072
@julowens8072 11 ай бұрын
I am dating a narcissist unfortunately and he doesn't believe in astrology but I do.
@MooseC00kie
@MooseC00kie 11 ай бұрын
Good one! Hope people understand that Therese is research and there is research out there…. 😂
@dirty_diver
@dirty_diver 11 ай бұрын
The headline might not have anything to do with the author's fault. Often, it's the editors that create it. Just like in journalism, they create click bait titles. That's why it's always important to read the paper to understand what the author is really saying.
@anna-roza0
@anna-roza0 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video Cam! Always a pleasure 👏
@pcnair9868
@pcnair9868 11 ай бұрын
I watch videos all the time but never follow my own chart. Just collective There you go
@danibostonburbs
@danibostonburbs 11 ай бұрын
Heyy Cam, just luved This episode listening before work starts. Love when you say "Hold on to your pants". HaHa seriously tho, nobody should be on facebook any more! I get off of that hell hole 2009!Dropped threads 2 days ago. LUV Dani from Boston
@amandahammer17
@amandahammer17 11 ай бұрын
Lol😂 “wtf is that?” I love your ass… even ya trippin. 🎉 This comment on neg and pos signs.
@revolutionary_evolution
@revolutionary_evolution 11 ай бұрын
I call it "copy and paste" research/study. Absolutely confirmation bias based. It's the individual perception disguised to have more basis than it really does. So using the words like we instead of me, or speaking as if they have authority to do so on the behalf of any group, culture, or community when really they only speak on their own limited perception.
@RoxyCarolina5416
@RoxyCarolina5416 11 ай бұрын
Everyone is selfish and Everyone is compassionate to a certain extent. If they weren't they would probably be in jail for hurting someone over their opinion, and it would give them a type of admiration just for being there bc in a narcissist mind they are right and society is wrong, ask a cult leader lol. Being human isn't easy but as long as we can help each other through life we have an advantage and that's why astrology is so important. To see both light and dark and to transform a crisis into an event in a person's life. In psychology to give something a name or identity takes the power away of the event. Therefore astrology helps so many bc it has a name for the event whether good or bad. ❤
@melissathompson5803
@melissathompson5803 10 ай бұрын
I have 3 ppl in my life that use narcissistic behaviour as a belief system and they’re all aquarians and all debunk astrology. So, I think that study needs work
@rubioalvin
@rubioalvin 11 ай бұрын
Not so much the audience. But imo, it's those folks that have beauty oriented channels that are also Astrologers who may lean towards narcissistic, that sees Astrology as trendy imo.
@brandonleesantana4500
@brandonleesantana4500 11 ай бұрын
I like this podcast it helps and opens up to new thoughts on the subject....tho while this maybe one case your viewing would you mund doing one in religion more specifically the Christian and astrology if everyone ok with this
@CorrinaBettencourt
@CorrinaBettencourt 11 ай бұрын
Cam thank u lol ❤ 💯
@thea1936
@thea1936 11 ай бұрын
😂I have so much to say here, but in short… I agree with you 1000%.
@TheAstrologyChronicles
@TheAstrologyChronicles 11 ай бұрын
The fact that they didn't use astrology to test astrology already makes this study invalid. Sun signs do not capture the depth of astrology. As complex as astrology is yet they took shortcuts on measuring it, lack of effort in choosing participants, and the overall laziness in learning astrology's history-- it's shocking as to how they even got funded to do this. Thanks for going through it in detail
@dianeaishamonday9125
@dianeaishamonday9125 11 ай бұрын
Preach!
@appleshampoozie
@appleshampoozie 11 ай бұрын
Major typo in the thumbnail, or am I reading it wrong?!
@urthshu
@urthshu 11 ай бұрын
Not a gotcha: would you be interested in consulting as a subject matter expert in a future psychology/social sciences survey regarding astrology? what sorts of questions would you prefer to see explored and how would you test for them? should say upfront I'm not offering to conduct any study but am curious what your answer might be
@vanessastefanova
@vanessastefanova 11 ай бұрын
😂 I'm here for this. Why the fuck did they do a personality test (which screams Myer Briggs btw............) surrounding astrology believers and not make the target study participants people who believe in astrology. It would have been very easy to go to an astrology school or look at an astrologers Insta followers. Was this a first year uni student or some shit doing this?
@heatherxlotus
@heatherxlotus 11 ай бұрын
The study is not legitimate because you need to have a planned study with factors that can be replicated precisely. You need multiple studies to prove something true. A random sample is not carefully planned to include all types of people, to make a “fair” conclusion. A “randomized” sample from social media would not include enough diversity to even be taken seriously. I love how they try to use (weak) science to prove anything about astrology, that’s a first.
@heatherxlotus
@heatherxlotus 11 ай бұрын
Btw, if science treated reality like the legal system we would be better off, seeing as how science constantly proves itself wrong anyways. The legal system assumes the presumption of innocence before being proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. You can’t say astrology isn’t real without proving it wrong beyond a reasonable doubt. Science is absolutely biased, insofar as the scientific community are judgmental in only studying certain areas… and creating elegant studies that are crafted to prove their hypotheses significant. If they don’t get significance, they redesign the studies until they do. You’re right, we need advocates that are realistic.
@ColorMyWorld250
@ColorMyWorld250 11 ай бұрын
narcism
@paulabizzak9532
@paulabizzak9532 11 ай бұрын
This^ Why I 💕 Cam and Astrology
@mss-eclipse
@mss-eclipse 11 ай бұрын
So I'm someone who plans on going into the psychology feild and heavily believes in science But I also practice witchcraft and believe in astrology Yes there hasn't been any like definitive studies on astrology that proves if it is or isn't a science. On one hand yeah scientists automatically dismissed the idea of it even being a science without doing any actual studies and talking to people who believe it was like the in-depth birth charts and all that stuff on the other hand a thing that what's astrology tends to happen a lot is something called confirmation bias you get told something like oh my God that me for real for real when who knows maybe that ain't you frfr you know It mostly that fact that a lot scientists dismiss it
@mss-eclipse
@mss-eclipse 11 ай бұрын
Though I'd love to do a study on it in the future as it seems like an intriguing thing to get some explanation behind I mean the moon does effect out mood/ patterns i wouldn't deny the possibility of other planets doing the same
@omentum1000
@omentum1000 11 ай бұрын
One of your best!
@tinaclaramarie5947
@tinaclaramarie5947 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful
@jaysev1
@jaysev1 11 ай бұрын
For something to be considered empirical it first must be measurable unfortunately since astrology doesn't have the benefit of data to back it nonsense like this paper will continue to perpetuate. It is entertaining to see a what I would consider pseudo science point the finger at astrology for being the very thing it is. Project much guys?
@revolutionary_evolution
@revolutionary_evolution 11 ай бұрын
Personally, I hope that all narcissists are attracted to astrology for whatever the reason, and actually take a deep dive because the principles of astrology eventually lead to spiritual theology and the idea of bliss and enlightenment through shadow work. Whatever the case, astrology always leads back to ourselves as individuals. And if narcissists are going that route then hallelujah because it'll keep leading back to themselves to we're hopefully they'll be able to look in the mirror. That's how perception shifts happen. So.... yay! Lol win/win. But if they just copy and paste as a method of confirmation and then triangulation, then ya... that person is an idiot and clearly doesn't get it. But hopefully it somehow plants seeds of curiosity which then could lead to the possibility of self exploration and eventually self analysis.
@breathinggreen2790
@breathinggreen2790 11 ай бұрын
I never read generic star signs. They are just blanket statements that could apply to anyone. Capricorn : You have been putting in a lot of hard work, and while this is helping you to get ahead, don't forget to take time out for yourself self. Blah blah blah rewind repeat. Fucking yawn, thanks for making me waste that 2 mins that I'll never get back!😅
@lisamarieb3853
@lisamarieb3853 11 ай бұрын
I often think to myself that a lot of this would be resolved If these so-called journalists or people putting together, the studies, just went to an astrologist that was reputable and read their chart. Lol. 😂
@andreawilliams363
@andreawilliams363 11 ай бұрын
The “sample” in itself makes this study invalid. I can point out so many flaws that it’s actually amusing to think anyone could possibly believe it’s validity let alone it’s actual results. And yes… I have my moments of narcissism but I have many more moments of selfless “codependent” and “enabling” behavior for the many narcissists in my personal and career life that don’t believe in astrology. 😂😂😂
@walterward8164
@walterward8164 11 ай бұрын
😂 I HAD looked into that subject and I believe that it drove me to Astrology 😂 when the flake talking admitted HE was in fact a NARCISSIST 😮 Moving on. So many people in a closet. Ever wonder why they don't have a DONKEY'S PUTTER. IKON 😊
@Getluvgiveluv
@Getluvgiveluv 11 ай бұрын
@camwhite Debunking the BS behind the BS
@spiderqueen601
@spiderqueen601 10 ай бұрын
“I do think a lot of you are narcissists… let’s be honest” 😂
@crystalclear5098
@crystalclear5098 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@IamPJKisiel
@IamPJKisiel 11 ай бұрын
Everyone is a narcissist just some more than others
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