Does Shakespeare Write Like a Girl?

[@resolutejohnflorio]

Wall Street journal Journalist Elizabeth Wrinkler a couple of years ago suggested that Shakespeare could have been Emilia Bassano, for her Italian and Jewish origins. Lovely presentation, congrats Robin 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@NomadOutOfAfrica]

Brilliant analysis. And good circumstantial evidence for Emilia Basanno as the author.

[@SaralinaLove]

BRAVO dear Dr Williams!! You are inspiring on every level! Your genius scholarship makes me live again! I celebrate your brilliance and charge everyone to read your everlasting book: SWEET SWAN OF AVON: DID A WOMAN WRITE SHAKESPEARE. Your award winning book, wins my heart, body, mind, soul and Spirit everytime I think of it and read your profound, infinitely thorough historical facts drawing all the disparate puzze pieces together like an archer with her bow to hit the bulls eye with your every thought, word and deed. You are a maestra in every sense and Mary Sydney Herbert Countess of Pembroke bows to you celebrating your being bringing her to life for the whole world like never before. Anon

[@rooruffneck]

This is an interesting talk. Not sure how we know the number of women in plays in 1580s. I thought we had a record of lots of play titles but not many actual plays.

[@avlasting3507]

Fascinating.

[@Mooseman327]

Edward DeVere, the 17th Earl of Oxford, wrote the works of Shakespeare. By this point, there is little doubt on the subject. The evidence is overwhelming. Read some of the dozens and dozens of fine books on the subject. Being of the highest royalty, he knew all the very best educated women, not only in England, but in France, Italy and other countries as well, starting with Elizabeth I herself. His first wife was the daughter of Lord Burghley, Elizabeth's chief advisor, Lord Treasurer, Secretary of State and creator of the first governmental spy organization. His second wife was the sister of the two earls who were behind the publication of the First Folio. Oxford, of course, traveled to Italy and to every single setting of the Italian plays. Oxford knew Mary Sidney quite well (they moved in the very same social and intellectual circles...they both had houses on the Avon) and, no doubt knew Mary Bassano as well. Bassano knew of John Lyly's work, and Lyly worked for Oxford as did many other writers of the time, including Greene, Nashe and Munday. Lyly was Oxford's "personal secretary" for a dozen years. That's why some of Shakespeare's plays seem to borrow from Lyly.

[@SaralinaLove]

Dear vere died in 1604, I think it was. So many reasons de vere is unlikely buy for one, the fist folio published sooooo many years later with Ben jonsons dedication "to the author" in honor of said author and sadness of her death. Doubt he'd wait that long to post this type of thing about de very. I'm no expert. I only glean from the experts. There's some good scholarship on this that I've read goes deep. I'll look for it and of course, there's the quintessential "SWEET SWAN OF AVON" BY ROBIN P. WILLIAMS which is effortlessly extraordinary. Highly recommended. Full of ever deepening riveting scholarship ❤ 100% historical. No what's or maybes. Only facts u less otherwise noted. 💯

[@DrWrapperband]

@@SaralinaLove Avon was Hampton Court and De Vere lived near Stratford, in Hackney, London.

[@Mooseman327]

@@SaralinaLove The standard dating of the plays is wrong. The Stratfordians have to overlook all of the predecessors of the plays by saying that Shakespeare "stole" his plot ideas from others. Those "others" was himself in earlier versions of the plays performed at court. Of course, the Stratfordians can't go with dating of the earlier versions because their author was just a child living in the boondocks of Stratford at the time.

[@Mooseman327]

@@DrWrapperband DeVere owned many properties, being an Earl, and one of them was on the Avon.

[@VallaMusic]

of course the word 'Shakespeare' being a code name based on the 'spear shaker' who is the woman Athena - my personal theory on WS is most esoteric and seemingly far-fetched - that we are dealing with a true immortal god/goddess who is a true living human being and author of these plays - the divine immortal aspect of which I speak would considered nigh insanity except that some brilliant researchers into the coded gematria found in Shakespeare's sonnets and plays have discovered the same cryptic codes about Edward DeVere in the Bible as well - again, Edward DeVere was no man - and besides, how are gods/goddesses to blend in with mortal society if not by many necessary deceptions ? - by the way, I would note the word 'eVe' is not contained in the surname 'DeVere' by accident - kudos to all the women who have kept the fame and flame of the spear shaker burning bright all these long, long years of patriarchal madness and strife

[@ashirahelat4749]

You are the next Bloom.

[@MrAbzu]

Now that Shakespeare has been demoted to a middle man/woman who modified preexisting works before passing them on to Fulke Greville for publishing, finding the common link should not be too difficult. One would think.

[@xmaseveeve5259]

Of course. She was Lady Bacon.

[@Mooseman327]

Well, it couldn't have been Lord Bacon whose attitudes and writing style were the very opposite of Shakespeare's. Couldn't find two more disparate personalities and writers.

[@xmaseveeve5259]

@@Mooseman327 Then you have a tin ear, Sir.

[@SaralinaLove]

​@@Mooseman327well said. He also died much earlier if I remember correctly

[@wiltonwarlock918]

Problem is -- Phillip and Mary Sidney HATED the Shakespeare plays. They were both ardent classists and the plays were constantly violating classical principles: mixing comedy and drama, putting kings on stage with clowns, etc. Phillip's "The Defence of Poesy" is an attack aimed precisely at the Shakespeare plays.

[@ShakespeareAR]

That is very interesting! Maybe it was a cover somehow. Me thinks the siblings do protest too much. :)

[@Mooseman327]

Some consider the ridiculous and cowardly character of Sir Andrew Aguecheek (in Twelfth Night) to be an extreme caricature of Sir Philip Sydney, and in particular, the Sydney of the famous "tennis-court argument" he had with Edward Devere, the 17th Earl of Oxford, and the actual writer of the works of Shakespeare. Of course, he hated the works of Shakespeare. He and Oxford hated each other.

[@floatingholmes]

That is a strange claim, considering that there is a statue of Shakespeare at Wilton house, and the Wilton house tour tells everyone that it was erected in honor of Mary Sidney. What is evidence for your claim?

[@bastianconrad2550]

A pity, that these Interesting reflections seem not to be able , to contribute anything substantial to the SHAKESPEARE authorship question (interesting me most ). Or am I wrong?

[@rorystockley5969]

The authorship question is a joke. It doesn't deserve discussion.

[@bastianconrad2550]

@@rorystockley5969 what a marvelous certificate of destitution of intellect…congratulation!

[@rorystockley5969]

@@bastianconrad2550 Use your thesaurus all you like, it doesn't make the authorship question any less nonsense.

[@bastianconrad2550]

,@@rorystockley5969Thanks Rory, Believe me, I am really interested to learn about your main motifs, why you feel the need to attack a possible/plausible authorship question or problem.! Thanks,

[@matthewzuckerman6267]

@@bastianconrad2550 Don't hold your breath.Someone who starts by calling an opposing opinion "nonsense" is not interested in an informed discussion.

[@xmaseveeve5259]

YOU ARE ALL BLIND! (Look at the size of those hands!) I'm out...