Does sifted flour make bread dough lighter? (Plus a cake recipe!)

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ChainBaker

ChainBaker

Күн бұрын

Sifting flour is only useful in recipes where a dough or batter is mixed gently. Some people have asked me about this, and others have told me that I should try it. So, there you have it. The answer is short and simple. No, sifting flour does not make bread dough lighter. As I show in the video the flour is only light and fluffy and not lumpy while it is dry and undisturbed. As soon as water is added, and the dough is kneaded it turns in the worst lump that you could imagine. Sifting will not help here.
There are cases where you might want to sift your flour for bead making. If you have whole wheat flour that contains a lot of bran and you would like to make it slightly lighter, then you can sift the coarse bran out of the flour.
If your flour has been sitting in the cupboard for ages it may be infested with some creepy crawlies. Sifting would be a way to find out for sure. Of course, if you find some bugs in there, then you may want to get rid of that bag of flour.
Back in the old days people used to sift flour because the production process was not as refined and there was a chance that the flour could have some foreign objects in it. Sifting would remove them.
Nowadays there is no reason to sift fresh flour as it will be clean.
Getting back to sifting to make something light and fluffy, here is a prime example of when you absolutely should do it. Making a Genoise sponge which is meant to be gently stirred with a spatula and requires minimal disturbance to keep it nice and light, unlike bread dough that is beaten up in a mixer or kneaded by hand until it becomes a dense lump.
A recipe like this is the only time sifting will help with lightness. If you are mixing something in a mixer, then it obviously cannot make things light as you are beating the batter to hell.
Sift your flour when you want to remove unwanted stuff from it. Sift your flour when the recipe requires gentle mixing.
As an extra I have added the Genoise cake recipe. I know this is a bread channel, and I only wanted to show the mixing process for the cake, but then I decided to make a recipe out of it. Perhaps you will find it useful. It is a great cake. Easy to make and super soft, light, and fluffy.
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Why it would not make bread lighter
1:44 Why you might want to sift flour for bread making
2:39 Genoise sponge recipe
3:52 Why sifting flour helps with making sponge lighter
5:00 Baking the sponge
5:27 Finishing the cake
7:49 The delicious result
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@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
📖 Find the written recipe in the link below the video ⤴️ 🌾 If you would like to support my work click here ⤵️ www.ko-fi.com/chainbaker 🔪 Find all the things I use here ⤵️ 🇺🇸 www.amazon.com/shop/ChainBaker 🇬🇧 www.amazon.co.uk/shop/ChainBaker 🥨 To learn more about bread making click here ⤵️ Principles of Baking bit.ly/principles-of-baking The Steps of Baking bit.ly/steps-of-baking
@billrogers9230
@billrogers9230 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for providing your years of work and close attention to the fundamentals of baking. As an older man who bakes less than 10 times a month I have been slowly accumulating the knowledge only gained by repetition. Infrequent bakes leaves many comparisons muddled. Your willingness to reveal how the science of combining ingredients for a successful fermentation while debunking common mythology is priceless. You have filled in the fundamentals skipped by others who must assume everyone has the basics while proceeding to demonstrate next level techniques. I have been really excited to find and view your no nonsense productions. Again, thank you!
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Bill. I have always learned this way, so I thought other people may find it useful too. The little details are the most important. I'm glad you're finding my videos useful. Cheers!
@patforbes22
@patforbes22 2 жыл бұрын
Really, really, really not enough viewers comparing to those Turkish kitchen clips. On the other hand, it's been a privilege to be included in such small but exclusive club. Thank you for showing us your expertise.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! :))
@oldvlognewtricks
@oldvlognewtricks 2 жыл бұрын
Love these technical deep dives. Thank you for sharing your experiments and expertise.
@corryhinckley6103
@corryhinckley6103 Жыл бұрын
I've always wondered about sifting. Thanks so much for clearing it up and showing how to make such a beautiful sponge.
@kilokalas2773
@kilokalas2773 Жыл бұрын
Omg you have answered a lot of questions I had. I have been asking so many people and chefs on how to make my cake spongy and none have answered my question. They just told me to wrap it with plastics. Thank you sir 🙏
@georget.9496
@georget.9496 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely going to be trying this. Thank you for sharing.
@v.5967
@v.5967 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never sifted flower I figured end result is the same. Also I personally always wondered why some people sifted and others did not on the same exact recipe different cook I guess. Great video also I will try this sponge cake looks delicious
@wirlybird997
@wirlybird997 2 жыл бұрын
That's super always wondered how it was done , definitely going to give it a go.
@kevinmoodley6193
@kevinmoodley6193 Жыл бұрын
Wow. That cake looks epic
@alexandradobre1101
@alexandradobre1101 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing sponge!
@nomihoch
@nomihoch 2 жыл бұрын
I have never thought of sifting flour for bread making. I really never sift it for plain cakes and cookies just give it a stir and it seems fine - I will defiantly try this cake and sift the flour!
@mati.benapezo
@mati.benapezo 2 жыл бұрын
Some people say that the reason to sift the flour is because it could contain lumps. Others may say because it could contain pebbles, I think this applies for flour obtained of low quality. But it's very unlikely to happen.
@guilhermemg7515
@guilhermemg7515 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing surprise 🤩
@arlenepoirier
@arlenepoirier 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good teaching.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
🙏
@mothtv
@mothtv 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah gonna try that recipe. Awesome video.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Let me know how it turns out :)
@virginiavoigt2418
@virginiavoigt2418 Жыл бұрын
I like your suggestion on how to use your time while waiting.
@virginiavoigt2418
@virginiavoigt2418 Жыл бұрын
I have a home grain mill, so prepare my own whole grain flour. If it needs to be "fine" I sift out the larger particles and put them through a little coffee/spice mill until they are fine enough to suit me. Or if I am too lazy to do that, I simply save them for the next bake where it doesn't matter what the particle size is. Sometimes the coarse particles make a nice bread topping.
@aboalrujal9951
@aboalrujal9951 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best bread channel In KZbin
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
🙏
@gregargo1898
@gregargo1898 Жыл бұрын
Very good way of tricking us into making sponge cakes.. ;) ty Chef
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker Жыл бұрын
😅
@Jeepy2-LoveToBake
@Jeepy2-LoveToBake Жыл бұрын
Used the Genoise Sponge cake recipe to make madeleines (just had to try my new madeleine pans). Very nice indeed! Crispy edges, spongy cake. Photo has been posted in "Charlie's Baking Buddies".
@floofy1953
@floofy1953 9 ай бұрын
I finally made an edible loaf because of this video. More than edible - it was gone in a day. I did a biga, following exactly these percentages, but because I just can't stick to a recipe, I added butter at the end. I used so much butter (because if a little is good, a lot is better 🙄) the dough separated. I almost threw it out, but wanted to see what happens when you screw up. l folded and shaped the best I could. It turned out crazy good. The crumb was almost stretchy, moist and fluffy. The crust was thin and crispy I'm so glad for your beginning videos; without them I'd still be making bricks.
@MsJax304
@MsJax304 8 ай бұрын
Very nice
@Its1a2date
@Its1a2date Ай бұрын
I pack mine with mango jam. Terribly good.👍🏼
@Pachurry14
@Pachurry14 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a comparison between low protein and high protein? for bread making and for other aplications too. i got a 16% flour 0000 its really good for high hidration but a bit too stiff for low hidration. Thank you sir i learned so much from your videos. Saludos desde Argentina! pd: you should try to make Alfajores con dulce de leche!
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
I will make a video on that someday :) Cheers!
@ernestbeckley
@ernestbeckley 2 жыл бұрын
I always sifted my flour because my grandmother always sifted hers. My guess is today's flour is much more refined than what she used when she was first learning how to bake.
@pjschmid2251
@pjschmid2251 Жыл бұрын
Your grandmother sifted her flour because her mother did and so on. If you go back far enough (19th or early 20th century) it was necessary because it removed "foreign material" from the flour (bugs) which was common (large quantities of flour stored in cloth bags made it inevitable). Today shopping is easier and we typically buy smaller quantities when we need it and store it in airtight containers thus eliminating the need for sifting except maybe for cake flour when baking cakes and even then I have to wonder how much it maters if you are using baking powder as a leavener.
@ChemistryLemur
@ChemistryLemur 2 жыл бұрын
Love your shit, nice and relaxed. Keep it up!
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers! :)
@privateprivate9285
@privateprivate9285 2 жыл бұрын
Just read one of the comments left here. Have to agree, clear instructions, mixed with some humour, and great baking!!! And, your voice is soothing. (I'm not a man, suppose only a woman would think of telling you that?!)
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 🤩
@Jeepy2-LoveToBake
@Jeepy2-LoveToBake 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for confirming the myth of "sifting" - and the recipe for the sponge cake. Most definitely for our Christmas family potluck (only because I'm already making brioche for our family Thanksgiving meal).
@babalu-oc6iu
@babalu-oc6iu 2 жыл бұрын
I have to sift. Only because I freeze flour to kill weevils. When I defrost, it forms little pebbles. I live in hot and humid climate. I freeze rice and cornmeal too
@MrSpiritchild
@MrSpiritchild 2 жыл бұрын
I once watched someone use floss to cut a cake like this, scored the sides, wrapped the floss into the grooves with a loop they just tugged on each end off, tightening the loop until it cut the cake through.
@mtlvlgmnfishing
@mtlvlgmnfishing 2 жыл бұрын
Will be making this cake later today
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Let me know how it turns out 👍
@TABarnhart
@TABarnhart 2 жыл бұрын
i looked through your videos but didn't see anything about this.... when you sifted the whole wheat flour & had the bran remaining, it reminded me of the recipe i use to make whole wheat, which i learned from [i don't recall]. this involves soaking the whole wheat flour ahead of time with part of the water to soften the bran. the idea being that the "hard" bran has sharp edges that cut the developing dough & keep it from rising properly. i cannot verify.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
There are two methods that are similar to what you describe. One is a soaker, which I used in one of my latest recipes - kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJPJmHStfN94sJI And another one is autolyse - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZTcZZJ-fMtliac You are right. The bran does exactly that - it has a shearing effect on the gluten.
@georgepagakis9854
@georgepagakis9854 Жыл бұрын
Amazing. I was looking for a sponge cake and I coudln't find one on your playlist. Glad I found it from Flicker :) If I wanted to add lemon juice to it will that be in the egg beating stage or when adding the flour? You should change the topic to "And a great sponge recipe added :) I am going to make this on the weekend. Goes great with espresso :) I will post a picture on Flicker :)
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker Жыл бұрын
The juice might change the texture of the cake. I would go with zest instead and then use the juice in the syrup ;) Oh yes and add the zest when mixing the eggs.
@gilgrimes
@gilgrimes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker Жыл бұрын
Thank you! ✌
@alext912
@alext912 Жыл бұрын
Shifting flour is a must if you are dealing with non branded flours to remove impurities and sediments....
@aussiedonna50
@aussiedonna50 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Charlie Thank you for the unexpected sponge recipe, what a treat! I have made sponge cakes for many decades and considering there are only a few sponge variations, they are extremely versatile as long as the cake is not left around more than a day of baking. I do things just a little differently to your recipe. I swap out 2 tablespoons plain flour and replace with corn flour and I sift the flour 3 times (the last time being over the egg mixture). The only other thing I do differently is add the melted butter to a couple of spoonfuls of the egg and flour mixture and then fold that into the main bowl, I find the butter doesn’t sink to the bottom of the bowl and requires less mixing. Like most baking though, there are usually different methods that can be used and the end result is the same. I would love to see more of your favourite cake recipes please Charlie. As always, I thoroughly enjoyed your informative video, thank you. Keep well and stay safe Kind regards Donna (from Australia)
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Donna :) I enjoyed making a cake for a change. Those are some great tips! The corn flour and reduced mixing may make this even lighter and fluffier. I'll definitely try it next time. I do enjoy making cakes from time to time, but I don't have much of a sweet tooth. My all time favourite is the Russian honey cake - Medovik. Perhaps I will make a video on that one day. Thank you Donna. Kind regards.
@johk2293
@johk2293 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChainBaker medovik is the best. As a Russian I can confirm
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
😁👍
@thegiftlady1
@thegiftlady1 2 жыл бұрын
Great tips!
@zippy2641
@zippy2641 Жыл бұрын
I'm betting that back in the day...they used to sift flour to separate out the bugs.
@Parzoi
@Parzoi 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, do you have any good channel (friend) who make cakes? I love breads too, you learned me so much, when to add salt, what to do with fat etc. Thanks bro
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Totally! He's a good friend of mine and we worked together for a few years :) here's the link - kzbin.info Tell him I sent you 😉
@konoser
@konoser 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Sir, Your Channel is the law & order (!) of all the bread baking channels here, hands down 🙌🏻 . Maybe some Alcohol would be nice on this sponge cake, some rum or so
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I love that :D Yeah some rum or gin wold go down well in that cake :)
@chezmoi42
@chezmoi42 2 жыл бұрын
Limoncello!
@youngeshmoney
@youngeshmoney Жыл бұрын
In the baking world, sifting is considered a must. I always found it relatively pointless because it literally doesn't do much unless you're sifting into liquid. I realized it's pointless, you sift and get a really nice looking mound of smooth flour, then you hit it with a whisk and it looks exactly like what it'd look like pouring it out the bag. Sifting was done to remove impurities like you said, the reason it was done got lost as the years went by and KZbinrs kept including it as a step.
@avs117
@avs117 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always CB! I always make a genoise by whipping the whites by themselves so I will have to give your double boiler method a try! Happy holidays my friend!!!
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Amol 🙏 I have never actually tried it any other way. Let me know what differences you find when you do try it Happy holidays to you 😉🎄
@m6laeufer
@m6laeufer 2 жыл бұрын
Danke!
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
🙏
@mohammadaboohosseinitabari4454
@mohammadaboohosseinitabari4454 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha! It is a relief to see the perfect baker finally not absolutely perfect in something!😅 Cake making is definitely the field I can compete with you in young man!😉 There were some minor mistakes you made during the process of making the genoise my beautiful! That made me so happy!😂
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes I leave the cake making for my missus. She's a pro pastry chef 😁 I'm a total noob 😂
@zvezdoblyat
@zvezdoblyat 10 ай бұрын
So many delicious recipes! I'll have to space them out over a few months or I'll be needing bigger clothes 😂 When you bain marie the eggs over water, how can you tell it's ready to come off if you dont have a thermometer?
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 10 ай бұрын
Not sure if I could tell exactly when. A thermometer is a very good and very affordable investment. There are three things you should own to make most of my recipes - a probe, scales, and a dough scraper.
@unclebounce1495
@unclebounce1495 Жыл бұрын
good video. curious, have you tested to see if sifted flour makes a difference when baking oil-mixed pastry doughs pre-hydration? (crumbles, pie crusts, etc)? Does sifting help the oil more uniformly coat the flour
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker Жыл бұрын
I have not. But I would imagine it making little to no difference. There's only one way to find out though ✌
@hands2hearts-seeds2feedamu83
@hands2hearts-seeds2feedamu83 2 жыл бұрын
I like using string to cut cakes like that, to me it is much easier. But if you push with your string instead of cut with it your cake may find its self in the floor, and you very up set. Bet that cake would be even better precut and put into the freezer for a few hours, it would be extra special on a hot summer day, ice cream cake. I make a frozen yogurt funnel cake that is fab.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes that sounds nice! :)
@alshalan7986
@alshalan7986 2 жыл бұрын
I just made this recipe and it came out delicious for me it is my first cake ….🤩😋🍰 YOU NEVER FAIL TO IMPRESS SIR 👍🏼 THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS RECIPE ..
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
That is so cool! And very impressive for a first cake🤩 on to many more great bakes 👍
@Pachurry14
@Pachurry14 2 жыл бұрын
Why do i have to take the eggs to 40°c? sry if this was a stupid question but i don't have a termometer yet :/ I won't stop telling you how great and helpful your videos are man you are awesome!
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Juan! :)) It does something with the proteins making the eggs hold air better. And it helps with dissolving the sugar too!
@Pachurry14
@Pachurry14 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChainBaker oh i see thanks Man!
@giuseppecorbelli167
@giuseppecorbelli167 Жыл бұрын
AFAIK sifting traps micro air bubbles in the flour, turning into greater bubbles in the finished product. Theory at least. Could be ground for the next side by side comparison video.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker Жыл бұрын
That's only true for the sponge cake. Makes no difference when making bread dough.
@Alpemomi
@Alpemomi 2 жыл бұрын
I be like: "Me gonna try that Gênoise!" I've never sifted flour for bread, but for cakes, yes. It was something Maman had taught me while baking.
@Rich_ard
@Rich_ard 2 жыл бұрын
I've never sifted my flour for bread mostly because I'm new and just a tad lazy seemed very extra (I wouldn't describe myself as a baker) but all the bakers I know swear by sifting every bit of flour they touch. Seems since it didn't hurt the bread to sift it I guess it's okay if people waste their time doing it. Thoughts on running the wheat germ through a mortar and pestel before adding it back to the flour? Could that improve consistency? (I've obviously never used wheat flour.)
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
You could do that. A finer texture would help with gluten development. Although I have never had any problems with regular whole wheat flour.
@m6laeufer
@m6laeufer 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video great Channel ... I love donated
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the support 😍
@thegiftlady1
@thegiftlady1 2 жыл бұрын
Yum! Must try
@Bozebo
@Bozebo 4 ай бұрын
You can also listen to cakes to know when they're done. Like microwave popcorn you want the bubbling/pops to get very far apart or have recently stopped. I tried this with bread but a thermometer is more consistent, and I haven't tried a thermometer for cakes.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 4 ай бұрын
I usually double check cakes with the thermometer.
@aska7347
@aska7347 2 жыл бұрын
What do I think 🤔 I'm running to kitchen to make that cake 🎂 🙃😅
@ypcomchic
@ypcomchic 3 ай бұрын
I use my canned flour which I canned in 1/2 gal glass mason jars in my oven so I have to sift it because once you dry can flour it gets big lumps.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 3 ай бұрын
What is the purpose of canning flour? I've never heard of it.
@The1withlogic
@The1withlogic Жыл бұрын
I always was told to sift to get the other dry ingredients to mix well
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker Жыл бұрын
Works great for a cake. Not necessary for bread😉
@The1withlogic
@The1withlogic Жыл бұрын
@ChainBaker I appreciate that you answer all of your viewers. Because of your teaching, my bread game has gotten so good my family stopped buying bread.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker Жыл бұрын
🙏
@68RedDragonz
@68RedDragonz 10 ай бұрын
perhaps if you are measuring out the flour by volume, sifting will make a difference as you will have maybe only an extra 1/2 cup flour in your bread machine vs a whole extra cup or more!
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 10 ай бұрын
That is definitely true for recipes that are measured by volume. But that is also the reason why I don't like that kind of measurement. It's too inconsistent. Here's a video about it - kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmiTnGeFZ7ymZ6M
@SiskinOnUTube
@SiskinOnUTube 2 жыл бұрын
My partner was asking me about sifting bread flour. Now I'm certain I don't have to. The cake was a treat to see. Thanks.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! :)
@rjltrevisan
@rjltrevisan 2 жыл бұрын
And to make a regular chocolate cake, should the flour and other ingredients be sifted?
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Not if you are going to beat it in a mixer for several minutes.
@waynewayne377
@waynewayne377 Жыл бұрын
...this would make a wonderful base for strawberry shortcake...great...ww....
@kilokalas2773
@kilokalas2773 Жыл бұрын
I used a cake flour and after 45 minutes the surface color was still white 😄 but it was springy when I touched it . But when i poked in with toothpick it was liquidy. Maybe I should have used a baking flour ? It's still in the oven
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker Жыл бұрын
Perhaps your oven bakes a bit differently. You can try raising the temperature next time. Or just bake for longer. How did it turn out?
@kilokalas2773
@kilokalas2773 Жыл бұрын
@ChainBaker Yes maybe it's my oven 🤔. I increases the temperature to 400 and waited 30 more minutes. It came out in two layers. The bottom half was kind of underbaked with the egg and cheese noticeable. But the top half was came out PERFECTLY !!! Maybe I should have waited a little longer for the bottom half to look the same. But your recipe definitely works because I have never made such a spongy cake in my many trials before yours.
@ProximaCentauri88
@ProximaCentauri88 Жыл бұрын
When I make a chiffon cake, I don't sift the flour when mixing it with the rest of the wet ingredients but I strain the batter before mixing with the meringue. Is this alright?
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker Жыл бұрын
If it works, it works!
@Acaykath
@Acaykath 2 жыл бұрын
This makes me wonder if it's possible to leaven a bread with egg or even whipped cream. It might be difficult because the sugar helps to stiffen the egg.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Would that be a bread though? I think that would turn it into a cake technically.
@TheWalkerKJ
@TheWalkerKJ 2 жыл бұрын
Great video btw
@guynakash
@guynakash 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a pro baker, but there are 3 things that everyone is constantly repeating over and over which are totally wrong. Watching videos like this one and of course through my own trial and errors I know that: 1. Sifting flour does nothing to the bread. 2. You can add lemon juice to milk. 3. Salt doesn't kill yeast.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Amen! 😄
@guynakash
@guynakash 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChainBaker after watching informative videos like yours, Foodgeek and The bread code, to name a few, I find it funny now when I see a recipe video where they sift some flour, put a small pile of salt on one side, yeast on the other, and say "we don't want the salt to touch the yeast, it will kill it", then taking a whisking and mixing everything 🤦🏻‍♂️
@goranpersson7726
@goranpersson7726 2 жыл бұрын
i mean, you can add lemon juice to milk, just dont let it sit for too long. if you let it sit however it's a good way to make a substitute for buttermilk if you live in a place where it's hard to get
@xgamingpoorly92
@xgamingpoorly92 2 жыл бұрын
😁👍
@garyblake4296
@garyblake4296 2 жыл бұрын
Another cracking video, I just got a stand mixer for xmas so there will be plenty of sponge cakes to be made...:)
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Gary. I should make some more cake videos. See how this one does. Perhaps I might ;)
@AnthonyLeighDunstan
@AnthonyLeighDunstan 2 жыл бұрын
In the 19th century, artisan baking really took off and wealth/status was reinforced by finery and sifted white bread was the most desirable. Poor people ate wholemeal bread - the wealthy demanded white bread. The impurities were added much like a barman watering down his whiskey. Bakers would add plaster of Paris to make it more white for instance. It’s crazy the shit they used to add to save on costs.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
It is quite funny how that was. Most of the old peasant foods nowadays are considered to be far superior than the stuff the rich folk were eating. Joke's on them :D
@AnthonyLeighDunstan
@AnthonyLeighDunstan 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChainBaker true dat. They understood food on a molecular level and were far more innovative due to necessity. Half the stuff the aristocracy ate was inedible decor.
@trackie1957
@trackie1957 Жыл бұрын
So much better than a Twinkie.
@psalm_eight_videos8938
@psalm_eight_videos8938 2 жыл бұрын
I did sift the flour once because the recipe said I must. I never bought the sift thing, but when my grandma had a flour bin built into her cupboard it could get meal worms in it. I was happy to sift it for her.👍🏻
@goranpersson7726
@goranpersson7726 2 жыл бұрын
the issue with sifting to get rid of insects n stuff like that is that they lay eggs in the flour, and depending on just what is living inside your flour sifting it wont get rid of the eggs
@jayhom5385
@jayhom5385 Жыл бұрын
@@goranpersson7726 Extra protein.
@binwaelle1138
@binwaelle1138 2 жыл бұрын
Wich flour you make bread can you tell us
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
For bread I use strong bread flour with 12.t% protein.
@shoogeveen
@shoogeveen 2 жыл бұрын
no point in doing it unless you sift the water as well
@Jeepy2-LoveToBake
@Jeepy2-LoveToBake 2 жыл бұрын
Can I use cake flour for the Genoise sponge or better to use regular flour?
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Cake flour would probably be even better for it ;)
@Jeepy2-LoveToBake
@Jeepy2-LoveToBake 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChainBaker Thanks, I'll try the recipe using cake flour :)
@rodneyferris4089
@rodneyferris4089 2 жыл бұрын
I only sift my whole wheat flour for my sourdough sandwich bread. I got that Rick from Trevor Wilson he suggested that the heavy bran in a good whole-wheat is too sharp for the gentle flour and sponge of a sourdough. I tried it, or forgot to sift, and it’s true the bran in whole-wheat is too abrasive! But… I found that a stone ground whole-wheat that passes through the sieve isn’t that abrasive!! But Stoneground Flour is too expensive though it has a nuttier flavour. But I use honey or maple syrup and dark barley diastatic powder and a pinch of ground ginger in my flour and wet ingredients… I’ve got tons of flavour happening! Btw: the ground ginger thing I found in a Shaker Recipe Book years ago and in another lifetime. The Shakers always put a pinch of ginger in their bread to cove up the yeasty flavour of the Beer Barm of their 18th Century loaves.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rodney. Thanks for the input. Definitely some useful tips there. I am currently reading his book. It has taught me quite a few things already and I'm only halfway through. I must try adding a bit of ginger. Sounds interesting. Cheers!
@waqup4054
@waqup4054 2 жыл бұрын
Eeeeeyummmmy!!
@Jeepy2-LoveToBake
@Jeepy2-LoveToBake 2 жыл бұрын
I made the Genoise Sponge cake for our family Christmas lunch - with cake flour and fresh berries. My mother did not believe that I made it. 😆 Photo has been posted.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
You made it extra beautiful this time! :)
@PokeMaster22222
@PokeMaster22222 2 жыл бұрын
Why would it do anything? You're not adding anything to the flour, or changing its composition, or anything.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised at how many people believe that it makes a difference.
@barbarab733
@barbarab733 2 жыл бұрын
....Hallo Charlie,welche Größer der Backform hast Du verwendet ? Danke für deine Antwort😋
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Hallo Barbara. Die Kuchenform, die ich verwende, hat einen Durchmesser von 20 cm. Sie können aber auch darauf bis zu 24cm verwenden.
@barbarab733
@barbarab733 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChainBaker Hallo Charlie, ...wir können uns auch dutzen 😉,danke für deine schnelle Anwort, ich habe vor es eventuell am Wochende auszu probieren. Ich werde es dir danach erzählen lg. Barbara😊
@dannyvogel9660
@dannyvogel9660 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that's obviously for cake and pastry but what about bread? No one really sifts their flour for bread...
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen many videos and I have read many recipes which suggest sifting flour for bread. I have even had people suggest it to me in the comments on my videos. So, I had to clear up that misconception 👍
@dannyvogel9660
@dannyvogel9660 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChainBaker but your making cake in this video, not bread. I understand sitting for cake and pastry in general: it's a best practice and results lighter or more tender products. What am I missing?
@Jeepy2-LoveToBake
@Jeepy2-LoveToBake 2 жыл бұрын
Made this today using cake flour and while I did have a couple packets of "strawberry jam" from McDonald's (!!!), I decided to go with raspberry preserves. Used a blend of regular and Meyer lemons for the zest and Meyer lemon juice for the syrup. Mmmmm not sure if I'm willing to share this with the family..... Photo has been posted.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
It is so light that you may not even notice how it disappears and the next thing you know half the cake is in your belly :D I almost did not share it either haha!
@fiveminutezen
@fiveminutezen 2 жыл бұрын
What I sometimes like to do is to sift my bread dough flour a little at a time into the wet ingredients. I think it hydrated each bit of flour a little more and makes for a smoother dough that requires less kneading. What do you think?
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Never tried it that way. You could save yourself some effort and cut down on kneading time by using the autolyse method to hydrate the flour. That would be far more effective and you would not have sieve the flour. Simply mix all ingredients until there is no dry flour left and then let the dough sit for 20 minutes. Gluten will develop itself and your dough will be smoother softer and require less mixing afterwards.
@TheWalkerKJ
@TheWalkerKJ 2 жыл бұрын
What's the purpose behind beating eggs over the heat in cake making process??
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
It helps dissolve the sugar, but more importantly it makes the egg hold more air and make it lighter. Something to do with denaturing the protein, but I'm not much of a scientist :D
@TheWalkerKJ
@TheWalkerKJ 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChainBaker thanks so much for that piece of info!!
@damnbro_idc
@damnbro_idc 2 жыл бұрын
I will definitely try this cake in summer I only sift my flower when making fluffy pancakes biszkopy or Ladyfingers
@jimb8977
@jimb8977 2 жыл бұрын
ok how do I weigh 7 oz`s ? not everyone has a scale.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone who is subscribed to this channel does have a scale. It is the only accurate way of measuring ingredients. I write both metric and imperial units so that everyone can weigh their ingredients without converting. Here is a video on measuring - kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmiTnGeFZ7ymZ6M
@yoskekon
@yoskekon 2 жыл бұрын
pls do a video about the oven mods
@gigi9467
@gigi9467 2 жыл бұрын
How many eggs is 200gr??
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
You won't get an exact amount using whole eggs. If you want this recipe to work, then you must weigh the ingredients.
@gigi9467
@gigi9467 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChainBaker ohh
@gigi9467
@gigi9467 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChainBaker i just did it and used four will see how it comes out lol
@mikemachen4170
@mikemachen4170 2 жыл бұрын
I have it didn't change a thing. Now I know why
@lbamusic
@lbamusic 2 жыл бұрын
Sifting flour will make no baking difference, but in the old days and occasionally today, it will capture creepy crawlers that have been found in flours, even flour just purchased from the supermarket.
@jimb8977
@jimb8977 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone who is subscribed to this channel does have a scale. how would you know that .I tried one of your breads had to throw it outside on the grass and the squirrels would`nt eat it.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Because everyone who is subscribed here wants to learn how to make bread properly. And the only way to measure ingredients for bread making with any accuracy is buy using scales. The bread that the squirrels would not eat was made by your hands and that is the only reason why. If you want to understand the principles and make better bread, then do have look in the 'Principles of Baking' playlist. The squirrels will thank you.
@jimb8977
@jimb8977 2 жыл бұрын
7 oz`s of eggs come on man just say 4 eggs and move on . we cant understand your recipes, took me an hour to look up grams and oz`s what a waste of time get with it we cant follow any of your recipes.
@ChainBaker
@ChainBaker 2 жыл бұрын
Who is 'we'? You are the first one ever to say something like this. Why would you need to look up any conversions? Just weigh your ingredients.
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