Does Sisters of Battle Armor Make Sense? | Warhammer Lore

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@MiaTsukiyoko
@MiaTsukiyoko 8 ай бұрын
Always funny to see that the boob armor argument is always around Sororitas while no ones care that both kind of Aeldaries have it... Or that some factions just go to waaagh wearing a torn shirt XD
@Draxynnic
@Draxynnic 8 ай бұрын
I think it's just more obvious with the Sisters because the entire army has it. But yeah, Howling Banshees might actually predate the Sisters in terms of when they were introduced to the game.
@electricangel4488
@electricangel4488 7 ай бұрын
Yhe eldari are perverts
@Trayzentheinfinite
@Trayzentheinfinite 6 ай бұрын
@@Draxynnic I think they predate the sisters in everything
@Draxynnic
@Draxynnic 6 ай бұрын
@@Trayzentheinfinite In the WH40K chronology, Banshees as one of the first Aspect Warrior shrines definitely predate Sisters that only showed up a few thousand years after the Heresy. I just don't know enough about the really early game to be 100% sure that the Howling Banshees were introduced to the canon before any mention of the Sisters of Battle.
@simonhadley6965
@simonhadley6965 6 ай бұрын
they could have had the basic trooper with flat armour and the women in charge with boob armour to show off.
@aaronyeager6687
@aaronyeager6687 8 ай бұрын
Great video. There’s also an in-universe reason for the boob armor that most people don’t realize: The armor was commissioned and designed by Goge Vandire who used the sisters (called the brides of the emperor at the time) as his personal harem. So, it makes sense for it to look like that because it was designed by a pervy crazy despot.
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
That’s a good point! Plus we know how set in their ways the imperium is makes sense they wouldn’t change it haha. Thanks for watching!
@abbadullreee3298
@abbadullreee3298 8 ай бұрын
Doge Vandire was "too busy to die" with his folder of feet pics when Alicia Dominica killed him
@falsehero2001
@falsehero2001 8 ай бұрын
Yes, but also no. The Sisters of Silence also have boob plate and have since before the Heresy. If anything, the Sororatas armour is based off of the Null Maiden armour in the same way that Astarte armour is derived from Custodes armour.
@moderndavinci6599
@moderndavinci6599 8 ай бұрын
My favorite fan-canon reason is so that even under armor they are distinguishable as feminine, as the Ecclesiarchy can have no men under arms. So they have boob armor to go "Yeah these are girls, it's okay, we are following The Rules™️"
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
@@moderndavinci6599 ya that’s the one I subscribe to. Classic Mr. Thor and his loopholes lol.
@katamattyon
@katamattyon 8 ай бұрын
There's a lot of rule of cool in 40k designs, the dialogue about boob armour doesn't take into account that boobs are cool and therefore boob armour fits in the rule of cool
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Agreed! Thank you for watching the video!
@NG-gy6iv
@NG-gy6iv 8 ай бұрын
No they aren't, they get in the way. And boob armor looks fuckinf stupid
@katamattyon
@katamattyon 8 ай бұрын
@@NG-gy6iv cool and practical are different things, nothing in 40k is particularly practical
@NG-gy6iv
@NG-gy6iv 8 ай бұрын
@katamattyon and boob armor is neither cool, nor practical
@katamattyon
@katamattyon 8 ай бұрын
@@NG-gy6iv it is cool, that's why it's so common in fiction
@me_a_person
@me_a_person 8 ай бұрын
Also everything in 40k revolves around the Rule of Cool. And Sisters of Battle are coolness incarnate
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
True! I think that’s the most important explanation for anything 40K, it’s because it’s cool. Thanks for watching
@SolarPlantPrincess
@SolarPlantPrincess 7 ай бұрын
As a woman the boob armor is awesome. Men get stylized armor all the time to accentuate their masculine features, women doing the same isn't a big deal. Now historically irl it would have been more of an issue with the materials holding up to what they would likely encounter on the battlefield, and not accidentally deflecting a blade directly into your heart. But given the state of 40k, you'd be hard pressed to say that's a realistic or important thing to account for with their armor which is mostly there to protect against lasers and similar weapons, and where all the swords are chainsaws ironically making the boob plate less of a liability because of the lack of piercing potential. Not to mention the whole problem is with more pronounced armor, which is only a consideration for named and important characters/officers who are clearly wearing it because it's more ceremonial and they are less likely to personally be on the front lines making the point moot. The standard armor given to normal Sisters of Battle barely have any bump, well within the realms of what is safe and practical even irl (also idk how to explain this to the guys, but the boobs don't just squish down, having a little extra space is important to make sure they can actually breath in their armor and aren't slowly crushing their rib cage while doing high exertion activities like purging the heretical and xenos filth that plague Humanity's Galaxy. And as someone else pointed out, if you really want to talk about the armor being bad you're looking in entirely the wrong place, it's the horrifically inexcusable high heels that don't make any sense. Give these ladies some proper boots Emperor Damnit!!!)
@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233
@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. I support exactly this.
@loltwest9423
@loltwest9423 7 ай бұрын
Only thing I think I would disagree with here is the whole "internal deflection" thing. Personally, I think it's highly exaggerated to the point of absurdity. That's not to say that it isn't sub-optimal, I just think that *certain* people on the internet overexaggerate the issues with it.
@NaGa5h
@NaGa5h 6 ай бұрын
Looking at historical precedents, boob shaped armour could have easily existed if more women were knights. Ofc there were a few documented cases here and there, but the thing about armour is: It's not tightly fit to the body. They often wore thick leader underneath, multiple layers of clothes to dampen the force of the strike, and in case of penetration, or a hit between armour parts, to have more layers of safety. This meant that "conventional" male armour fit women just as much as it did men. Till this point, we're just talking about practicality. Now, if female knights were more common, bigger customizations for women or cultural shifts would have easily been possible, including armour mirroring the shape of women, perhaps idealized versions of the female human form, like often found in male armour. Tldr.: Boob armour didn't exist because this is the way our culture and civilization happened to shape, but that doesn't make it unrealistic in a fantasy setting or a hypothetical history that just happened to unfold in a different direction.
@zeehero7280
@zeehero7280 6 ай бұрын
I much prefer an armor that is clearly tailored to fit boobs but, not so super exaggerated.
@simonhadley6965
@simonhadley6965 6 ай бұрын
in real life, there are examples of boob armour but for very rich women, as it takes a lot more work to make, so women would just ware the same as men but with a bigger chest size
@Draxynnic
@Draxynnic 8 ай бұрын
I've seen a few discussions regarding "boob armour" (in the context of breastplates with individual cups, not bikini armour, which is obviously not actual armour) from people who do have experience, and the general consensus is that it doesn't really make a significant difference to the protective qualities. Good quality plate is going to be good quality plate regardless, let alone power armour, and the cuirass is one of the toughest pieces by default - shot trap or not, any hit that can penetrate right at the centre of the cuirass can probably get through other parts of the armour far more easily. As long as there's proper padding beneath the armour (which there should be anyway) - it might theoretically be a little more vulnerable than a more conventionally shaped cuirass, but not enough to matter. It'd be more expensive to shape the cuirass that way, and there's not really a benefit to doing so (breastplates normally have a bulge anyway, and moving the bulge up slightly wouldn't be too hard), but if the armorer really wanted to make sure it was obvious that the wearer was a woman (or wanted to be seen as one), there's really not anything significant to be lost from shaping a cuirass that way. And the Ecclesiarchy armorers really don't want anyone mistaking the Sisters for men under arms.
@alganhar1
@alganhar1 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, and there is historical precedent as well. Look at the ridiculous codpieces on late medieval full plate harnesses. They served no functional role, many were even hinged to suggest the wearer was taking leaks out of the thing even though both size and armour and padding layout made such a thing impossible. It was a case of exaggerating penis size, everyone knew everyone was lying but they all did it anyway because it was the fashion. If men did that for literal centuries then I feel that had more armour been made for women specifically we WOULD see examples of boob armour in museums. The reason we do not is not because it would not have been done, or significantly affects the protection of the armour, but simply because very little armour was made specifically for women.... And none that may have been survives....
@jojomaster7675
@jojomaster7675 2 ай бұрын
I don't think you know how armour works. The problem isn't that it's going to get pierced, the problem is blunt force trauma. And such a shape makes a plate especially voulnrable to such blunt force trauma. Just imagine you're swinging a warhammer at a steel plate. If you were to swing it at a plate with a regular shape (a very slight curve without any pertrusions) you might make a bit of a dent in it, but all in all, it would still somewhat hold up. Now imagine you're swinging at a plate with a boob shaped pertrusion. That pertrusion would get squished. Not ideal, right? And then you have the issue of padding. A regular plate is fine to pad, but a boob-plate? How would you even fit any significant padding into there? Especially with the designs you see for a lot of the sororitas, unless they're all A cups, that armour is basically right on the skin.
@Draxynnic
@Draxynnic 2 ай бұрын
@@jojomaster7675 That's the common argument. It doesn't hold up. Plate made from good materials is more solid than you think - the difference in shape has an extremely small chance of being the reason that armour gets caved in. Additionally, 40K power armour is supposed to be light-years ahead of steel plate in the material science side of things. Padding is also doable. It's been done. Broadly speaking, in practice the boob-plate is decorative with the padding underneath being similar to what it would be with a conventional breastplate, similar to how codpiece armour doesn't actually involve slipping the relevant appendage into the codpiece. As for making detailed analysis of the proportions of the miniatures to assess how skintight or otherwise the power armour must be... Games Workshop's sculpts have always had a few problems with proportions when you look closely at them. It's basically impossible for power armour to actually be skintight, although to be fair the "power" aspects of the power armour might be fairly minimal around the chest plate since that's not an area that moves a lot.
@jojomaster7675
@jojomaster7675 2 ай бұрын
@@Draxynnic It's not as negligable as you make it out to be. Any kind of significant bend will severly decrease a plate's integrity, as whatever's past the bend will receive very little structural support from the plate before it. And as far as power armour being more powerful than steel - while you are right, you seem to be forgetting that weapons and opponents are a good bit stronger as well, so in the end, it doesn't matter. And what you described with the padding doesn't quite work, as you still need to fit the boobs somewhere. So if you were to make a traditional plate and then put on the rest as decorations (provided the woman wearing it isn't completely flat), you would end up with a very odd and imbalanced looking armour with extremely unnatural proportions and not at all what is commonly shown for the sororitas. You do actually need to shape the armour with the boobs in mind (just not like what is done here) and not just make a regular plate and then put decorative steel bits on top of that. Imo, it would be much better to make a unified space for both boobs. It would still make the sororitas look feminine, but wouldn't be nearly as detrimental to it's function.
@Draxynnic
@Draxynnic 2 ай бұрын
@@jojomaster7675 The shape of the breastplate doesn't affect the ability of the armour to resist blunt force as much as you think it does. Something that will cave in a boob plate will probably also cave in a regular cuirass the majority of the time anyway. People have done the tests. As for the 41st millennium - weapons are stronger, yes, but they're mostly stronger through the use of energy fields, heat, or increased cutting potential to get through armour, not by increased percussive force. I'm sure there are exceptions, but again, there's going to be a fairly narrow range of impact force where the boob plate actually matters. Also, women who have worn armour are mostly able to fit their chest into a regular-shaped cuirass. Usually the front of the cuirass is a fair way out from the sternum even on a man, and then an arming doublet is worn in between which is fairly padded anyway, and when the woman isn't interested in showing off, chests can normally be flattened a fair amount without being uncomfortable (can happen naturally when a woman is lying on her back without a bra, in fact). Someone who's particularly well-endowed might need to make allowances, but the same allowances would be made for the padded garment underneath as well. So, most of the time, the boob plate is going to be decorative, just like codpiece armour, and when it's not, it's as large as it is because it's accommodating not just the (probably still squished down quite a bit) breasts, but also the arming doublet or 40K equivalent as well. And again, pointing at the precise proportions of the models is ignoring the reality that a number of proportions are often distorted with models of that scale due to the practicalities involved. I have fantasy models from back in the day where a model's hands are about the size of their heads, and without the excuse of being power enhanced gauntlets or the like. I hope I don't need to tell you that's not how large hands really are, but they kinda needed to be in order to have enough detail to be recognisable as hands in the first place. Similarly, the heads of most hafted weapons are, in reality, smaller than the actual head of the wielder because that's what's actually practical when it comes to weight distributions, but if the weapons were properly scaled, they'd be spindly little things that'd break off at a slight knock. The models are intended to be representative, with certain features exaggerated so you can see them at the scale, not a perfect representation. In reality, even following the principle of wanting to make sure people knew these were female soldiers, the bumps on the armour would probably only stick out about an inch or two from where the surface of the armour would be otherwise. But on the 25mm scale, that would be almost unnoticeable, so it's exaggerated. It's far from the only thing that's exaggerated in Warhammer models.
@DiabloDelMer1
@DiabloDelMer1 7 ай бұрын
To add to the importance of femininity for the Sororitas, I need enthasise just how important it is this idea of looking like a woman matters. The imperium practically worships all things human, and the purity of the human form is appart of this. The boob armor and corsets of sororitas armor isn't just there to say "I am a woman", its to scream "I am a beautiful woman and a pinnacle of the female human form!!" The irony is that the armor can ensure the sisters look the part of a perfect woman even if their actual bodies might not be so blessed, be it by poor genetics or the countless battle scars they accumulate. Thusly, removing the boob armor would be a huge insult to a sororitas as it claims that something is wrong with the female form at its peak. Its akin to saying the Emperor was somehow wrong in the gifts he granted humanity. Let's remind that sororitas don't shy away from things like make-up. Their appearance very much matters to them.
@Sara3346
@Sara3346 4 ай бұрын
Eh the last part depends on which group of sisters, some of them are really into the scars and whatnot, however even that does still count as caring about appearence just in a different more martyr-y way.
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 2 ай бұрын
Based human enjoyer Booba inspires faith
@GutsOfRivia
@GutsOfRivia 8 ай бұрын
People get mad when sisters have boob armor but no one bats an eye when Blood angles have nipple and abs shaped armor.
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Lmao I love the sanguinary guard. Wouldn’t want all the marines to have the look, but thematically the sculpted muscles fit the sanguinary guard so well imo. Also thank you for watching!
@GutsOfRivia
@GutsOfRivia 8 ай бұрын
Aye the blood angels definitely have a cool unique gothic aesthetic. I'm more of a Dark Angels guy myself I just love the monk robes over power armor look.
@Mastercheap
@Mastercheap 7 ай бұрын
For me at least, isn’t that the sister have boob armor, but that they ONLY have boob armor. Also, I just prefer women in not boob armor in general and they are other way of making armor feminine that just look cooler.
@GutsOfRivia
@GutsOfRivia 7 ай бұрын
@@Mastercheap kit bashing exists also women in 40k dont just have boob armor look at female commissars and guardsmen they have the same armor as the men.
@Mastercheap
@Mastercheap 7 ай бұрын
@@GutsOfRivia I mean, I was talking about the sister of battle specifically. Not the guard, who are cool by the way. Frankly, I am not even against all types of boob armor, has long has it doesn’t have a gap in between the boob and cover the body, then I am fine with it. I just think that boob armor (the one with the gap) just doesn’t look has cool and badass has not boob. Maybe if it has abs, it could work. I also don’t collect minis because I know how much they cost, I don’t always have the best control on my money, don’t have a job and I am also a cheap bastard, so while I would like to collect them and kitbash them, I won’t for a while. Kitbashing would also not change warhammer art of the sister of battle. Sorry for the long reply or if some part don’t make sense by the way, It is about midnight has I am finishing it.
@falsehero2001
@falsehero2001 8 ай бұрын
"Aesthetics are as important if not more so than effectiveness in combat as the Emperor Himself has obviously, OBVIOUSLY, O B V I O U S L Y decreed!" -Vulkan He'Stan, Best Forge Father
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Indeed! You don’t just wear full golden plate without an eye for aesthetics. Thank you for watching!
@NG-gy6iv
@NG-gy6iv 8 ай бұрын
Well boob armor fails at both fronts
@isiahalcindor6278
@isiahalcindor6278 8 ай бұрын
​@NG-gy6iv how so if the armor's main point is to fit to the wearer's form and protect vital points boobs are pretty vital
@lirima-hirumi
@lirima-hirumi 6 ай бұрын
​@@isiahalcindor6278Regular chest pieces like you see on knights are shaped that way as to absorb the force and impact of a blow so they can minimize damage to the internal organs. Adding a cleavage/"boob pocket" creates a weak point in the plate and there's less space for the force of an impact to spread, thus making the wearer more likely to taken out of combat if she's hit on the chest.
@kyleunderhill9126
@kyleunderhill9126 3 ай бұрын
​@lirima-hirumi did you not watch the same video I did? Krak Duk explains that point is moot because anything powerful enough to go through power armor is going to go through regardless and anything that needs that cleavage leverage won't get through power armor.
@arionofotherworld
@arionofotherworld 8 ай бұрын
A nicely balanced video. When i think about it the armour of the Emperors 'Imperial Truth' Imperium should probably have been more ultilitarian in the 30k period, all dull practical armour with little flair, while the 40k era, driven by its faith and passion for ceremony, is naturally filled with elaborate, baroque gothic fashions.
@MrTudenom
@MrTudenom 8 ай бұрын
Mini’s are pretty small and it’s hard to tell male from female unless they have boob armour. Without it they’re just skinny guys with somewhat feminine heads tacked on.
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Yes, I agree. I think that works out for the guard, but for the sisters having more exaggeration works well imo. Thank you for watching!
@rcgunner7086
@rcgunner7086 8 ай бұрын
And honestly you can't really tell the difference at tabletop distance. A trooper in armor with a rifle looks the same be they male or female. Men are just larger versions. "boob armor" is an aesthetic thing, and the "nuns with guns" is a fetish thing from the 80's/90's. However armor that shows off physical features isn't a new thing. The Romans and Greeks wore breast plates that imitated ideals in masculine appearance and were reasonably effective as body armor.
@Freakyminosprime
@Freakyminosprime 7 ай бұрын
femboy characters in 40k when
@TheFifthHorseman_
@TheFifthHorseman_ 7 ай бұрын
@@Freakyminosprime Ask Slaanesh.
@springbonnie6407
@springbonnie6407 4 ай бұрын
​@@TheFifthHorseman_Allo Slannesh, Femboys In 40K When?
@Einhauser
@Einhauser 8 ай бұрын
These... are compelling arguments. You won me over.
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot haha, just wanted to put some of my thoughts on the subject out there and hopefully entertain some folks as well. Thanks for watching the video!
@CheapCreep
@CheapCreep 2 ай бұрын
3:09 Sir Erectus has arisen to battle, and is coming to our gates! Only Biggus Dickus would be an even match, but he is away on duty covering our rear!
@Itz2Cat
@Itz2Cat 8 ай бұрын
This is similar to how i feel about space marines not wearing helmets. Other people say its stupid, but the way i look at it is: a space marine is someone that would totally expose their most critical weakness to the enemy, just to put the fear of the emperor into them. Or for any other religious or ego reason a space marine could come up with lol.
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
That’s a good point. I personally like the helmets just because I think they look cool, but you can’t deny it’d be intimidating to see a dude not wearing his helmet because he knows he’s not getting taken down🤣 Also thank you for watching! Hope you enjoyed the video
@zombieslasher134
@zombieslasher134 8 ай бұрын
i headcanoned it as space marine super sense like a space marine can smell and feel the difference in air pressure and while marine do get good gear outside of the salamanders, ultra's, iron hands etc. and the rate they lose stc's most space marine chapters armor is just two parts of broken armor jury rigged to make one working one so maybe since if i had enough courage (which i don't) i would shoot for the head so maybe most helmets have breaking audio or vox equipment but the real reason is to look like a badass and sell models
@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233
@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233 7 ай бұрын
@@zombieslasher134 The Spacewolves Books lean pretty heavy into this argument. So it makes sense.
@echothegecko2875
@echothegecko2875 4 ай бұрын
​​@@zombieslasher134 It also makes it easier to spit acid, which is a thing I always forget they do because I don't really see it mentioned much
@laurentbourgault-roy5997
@laurentbourgault-roy5997 Ай бұрын
I remember reading somewhere in a codex that the mini don't have helmet to help you recognize them, but that you can assume that the character is actually wearing their helmet in battle. Don't know if its still true (read that many years ago), but it made perfect sense to me.
@pulsegategaming
@pulsegategaming 8 ай бұрын
Dude I love the Artwork and as always the content is on point!
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@yaujj65
@yaujj65 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I definitely like SoB girl design. She is so cute
@yaujj65
@yaujj65 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I like the SoB girl art. She is so cute.
@couchbear6108
@couchbear6108 8 ай бұрын
Casual 40k fan here The universe of 40k is is not subtle when it comes to visual storytelling. Your senses take information as if it project into your mind like the corrupting influence of Chaos.
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Haha, most things in 40K aren’t very subtle… Anyways thank you for watching, I really appreciate it!
@hi_-bz7wf
@hi_-bz7wf 7 ай бұрын
The practically point of view falls flat when you remember this is Warhammer 40,000, the faction that gets put on all the posters literally cannot raise their arms due to comically large pauldrons. Being practical was never the intent.
@allisonkuechlesilva3332
@allisonkuechlesilva3332 Ай бұрын
"Sisters of Battle armor is impractical!" Meanwhile the Imperium is over here putting cathedrals on their mechs and buttresses on their spaceships.
@s.k4713
@s.k4713 8 ай бұрын
I love your little guardsman avatar its adorable.
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! My girlfriend calls him spoon head haha. I appreciate you watching
@MadHax-wt5tl
@MadHax-wt5tl 7 ай бұрын
What always amuses me about the "boob armour" argument in general, not just 40K, is the fact the ancient Greeks and Romans had breast plates with huge pectorals and six packs. And you never hear anyone complaining about that!
@alganhar1
@alganhar1 3 ай бұрын
Or about the ridiculous size of the codpieces on late medieval full plate harnesses which had no functional role. Even a horse would have difficulty flopping their man tackle out of those things to take a leak. And the most ridiculous thing about it is most of them are literally HINGED to suggest the wearer was doing exactly that! Its literally a game of 'look at the size of my wang' where everyone knows everyone is lying but they all do it anyway because... fashion!! The reason we never saw boob armour historically is simply because very little armour was made specifically for women. Had it been I am absolutely convinced that boob armour would most certainly have been a reality.
@GloomGaiGar
@GloomGaiGar 3 ай бұрын
yeah cause they're dead the ones who would complain i mean
@ericquiabazza2608
@ericquiabazza2608 2 ай бұрын
That is because you are watching a Flaming sword and ASUME all sword have flames. But nop, just that one Code pieaces, six pack armor, engraved armor, mask, etc. Where all almost 1 of a kind piece for RICH BRATS. They where not standar even LESS mass produce. That would be a fucking waste. Space marine armor is the same. Same armor mass produce, but colors, engravings, add on ane the like and put separatly by its user, IF they can and earn it.
@welkiesshitpost7156
@welkiesshitpost7156 2 ай бұрын
This is one of, if not the best 40k I've ever seen!
@NormadYT
@NormadYT 2 ай бұрын
Ancient Roman chest plate clearly showing nipples: I sleep Vaguely boob shaped armour: 💀💀💀
@buckethead5454
@buckethead5454 8 ай бұрын
don't question it it's Warhammer this is the same setting where magic green mushroom men make spaceships out of actual piles of garbage
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
True, to me rule of cool trumps all Thanks for watching!
@deandoyledeandoyle
@deandoyledeandoyle 6 ай бұрын
Which has nothing to do with the only actual reason: Widdle boys defending boobies in their toy soldiers
@doughnut090
@doughnut090 8 ай бұрын
I don't think we're going far enough, I'm thinking of the blue body paint armor of the Britons.
@tempestvenator9809
@tempestvenator9809 5 ай бұрын
There literally used to be a guardsmen regiment whose uniform is literally just Woad. The Woad Warriors.
@Reemus4
@Reemus4 8 ай бұрын
joooo, the art is cute!
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Haha thank you! I love warhammer and drawing silly little guys. I appreciate you watching
@hunterdallager3559
@hunterdallager3559 8 ай бұрын
As a blood angels player I think that there should be more glorious abb armor
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
I agree! Muscles are badass lmao. Thank you for watching!
@NG-gy6iv
@NG-gy6iv 8 ай бұрын
Man, that's the one thing about BA that I DON'T like
@BigMansG
@BigMansG 7 ай бұрын
To the Imperium, being human is very important. This can be seen by all the damn (human) skulls they got everywhere on their armour and in their iconography. Also in their distaste for the mutant. So having the most religious branch of their military accentuate their human form a bit more than normal seems plausible to me.
@augustuslunasol10thapostle
@augustuslunasol10thapostle 5 ай бұрын
Humanity as in their physical humanity the imperium has long abandoned what we classify as humanity our empathy
@rcgunner7086
@rcgunner7086 8 ай бұрын
I'd agree. You covered the major points that I'd think of, so great job. I guess I would add that the Adeptus Sororitas aren't so much a standing military as being a security force for the Adeptus Ministorum. Yes, they can fight in battles, but they aren't a conventional military with all of the proper arms necessary to fight as an independent fighting force. I mean, they don't have the air support, artillery, or the logistical forces necessary to fight proper military campaigns. That's not really their job. Their job is to provide security for the Adeptus Ministorum's facilities: holy sites, churches, and for high ranking officials (who are assigned a security detachment of Sisters). That means that they are a highly visible force, so they must wear gear that impresses as well as being practical. Their very existence requires them to PROVE that they are a force of women, so boob armor it is. Their armor HAS to be very eye-catching, and it is very ceremonial (Seriously, these girls wear nothing that could be considered camoflauge! Their color schemes are EXTREMELY VISIBLE!). In real world terms they aren't "soldiers" like say a trooper in the 12th Cavalry Regiment, they are "honor guards" like the Swiss Guards at the Vatican, but more grim dark and ready to do some bloody business (which the old Swiss Guard was happy enough to do 200+ years ago!).
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! That’s an excellent point, I do think the sisters are at their most useful as a symbol of the ecclesiarchy’s might. I love the honor guard comparison, I think that makes a lot of sense Thanks again for your support and for watching the video!
@jacksoncrutcher8217
@jacksoncrutcher8217 Ай бұрын
Corsets provide a lot of support for the spine, so much so that female factory workers in Victorian times recognized their value in doing labor on their feet all day.
@PybrotheCatGirl
@PybrotheCatGirl 2 ай бұрын
Honestly the fact their armor has stiletto heels built in is the bigger issue
@rustyshackleford9841
@rustyshackleford9841 4 ай бұрын
Idk if you were making a 2003 clone wars animated series reference with the 1 knight but but if so that is a DEEP cut
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 4 ай бұрын
@@rustyshackleford9841 lol I was. I love that show
@FrontlinePros
@FrontlinePros 5 ай бұрын
Come on ppl, half the Space Marines don't even wear their helmets. Who's out there criticizing the "weak points" of boob armor?!?
@DeezNuts-kl2te
@DeezNuts-kl2te 2 ай бұрын
Always more protection to essential places because unlike Astarted or Bastardes they reproduce
@williamcooper8599
@williamcooper8599 3 ай бұрын
This makes me appreciate the Sister of Battle even more.
@Minority119
@Minority119 7 ай бұрын
A lot of people that complain about how titty armor would work seem to always assume the wearer would just stand there and take a blow to the chest Like bruh if they're trained to wear armor of any kind they're trained to step aside when a strike comes And, you know Sororitas use guns and flamethrowers before getting into melee range To be able to strike a sororitas in the titty to test the force distribution you kinda have to get past all the bolts and flame jets first
@MaxsonAtTheFort
@MaxsonAtTheFort 3 ай бұрын
10:19 Ork: “Iz da prettiest of demz all.”
@NormadYT
@NormadYT 2 ай бұрын
“Roman chest plates designed like a shirtless man is stupid and unrealistic” - things people who hate boobarmour don’t say despite having the same argument.
@something9005
@something9005 Ай бұрын
Well the Roman chest plates had a purpose they were designed to decrease morale for the enemies and to make the armor more comfortable for the people wearing it.
@sirneko1278
@sirneko1278 8 ай бұрын
Imma sub before you become a mainstream channel
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I hope your right haha, glad you enjoy the video!
@kryptonianotaku4975
@kryptonianotaku4975 Ай бұрын
Great video also I love the Star Wars Clone Wars 2003 reference at 3:00
@gavinschaffner8360
@gavinschaffner8360 6 ай бұрын
Yo the 2D Clone Wars part 2 reference at the beginning of the video is epic
@louisdepointedulac5072
@louisdepointedulac5072 Ай бұрын
You can literally stick your sword in the hook shape of the d- armor of a fancy knight and force them to the ground.
@herosupport1606
@herosupport1606 2 ай бұрын
at the 3:58 I was going to say hay that's fluting on the lower right example and its useful and then I saw the mustache lol. great video.
@TemplarBlack.
@TemplarBlack. 8 ай бұрын
How come i didn't heard of that channel before, it's incredible
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Thank so much! I appreciate the kind words. I just started the channel ~2 weeks ago, so I’m excited to see it grow and to put out videos people like. Thanks again for watching!
@mahoganydoughnut6082
@mahoganydoughnut6082 8 ай бұрын
There are two types of sisters players. "Hell yeah!!! They're badass nuns with guns!" And " Man, I'm so glad they updated sisters, the old lore was gross" *Sets down carry case covered in near pornagraphic, anime girl stickers.* "A bunch of incel losers were probably mad they changed them." *opens his phone to pull up rules. It's lockscreen is a woman in a bikini.* "Ya know?" *opens browser but has a porn tab open, doesn't close the tab, but goes to his other tabs most of wich are porn, to get to the one with his rules.* "Probably a bunch if space marine players who don't know what it's like not to be taken seriously." *Opens carrycase, revealing a repentia squad with a white crusty residue in the nooks and granny's on the moddle.* "They'll definitely cry their eyes out when we finally get female space marines, hey have you watched dorohedoro? Noi is my favorite character?"
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Haha I made a little spoof image from the boob alert scene. Most people seem to like the sisters for the e boobs or dislike them for the boobs. Anyways thank you for watching!
@NG-gy6iv
@NG-gy6iv 8 ай бұрын
I think that's just the one person, my dude
@mahoganydoughnut6082
@mahoganydoughnut6082 8 ай бұрын
@@NG-gy6iv it's at least two. I kinda combined them both but they are pretty much the same person.
@NG-gy6iv
@NG-gy6iv 8 ай бұрын
@mahoganydoughnut6082 dude i just want them to actually look cool, i dont do that weird shit
@mahoganydoughnut6082
@mahoganydoughnut6082 8 ай бұрын
@@NG-gy6iv congratulations you're the fist guy.
@seymur7422
@seymur7422 7 ай бұрын
I love the idea of orcs having boob armour that makes them actually more tough thanks to their belief power
@19Pyrus70
@19Pyrus70 5 ай бұрын
Are you proposing the creation of the Mama Ork Boys: Orks who believe that dressing up to look like females of other species will give them extra crumpin' power over males of that species? 😃 Mama Ork Boy: [Switching his hips, jiggling his breastplate, & winking all at once] " 'Ey li'l 'ummie, lemme giv' youse a li'l love crumpin' wiv me big chopper, big boy(♥️)!"😘
@MrFiremagnet
@MrFiremagnet 7 ай бұрын
My take: erotica is one of the crucial parts of John Blanche's art, who helped to bring SoB to life, and was a major influence on the development of 40k visual and symbolic languages. When he drew both male and female characters, especially high-standing bureaucracy, inquisition and all sorts of Imperial adventurers, it wasn't rare for him to include erotic elements, even some bdsm-coded undertones and a lot of the grotesque elements. I don't think that designers should give up the artistic integrity of what's left of the franchise before it succumbs to the inevitability of being watered down to appeal to the broadest audience possible. And it's an awesome design, and by that I mean it gives a recognizable profile, it stands out and it's appealing to those who actually gonna buy this stuff and whos opinions actually matter. And it doesn't have to make sense. Admechs literally make the most high tech rifles but also with the freaking wooden stocks, and their sniper stays on the freaking leg extensions for crying out loud. And Space Marine Chaplains stick pieces of paper for the good luck. And they find it easier to make an elevator switch out of a human by turning him into a servitor than to build a device that a science fair kid can build. And this is exactly the type of energy boob armor had, and part of the reason we love 40k.
@kathorsees
@kathorsees 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. As much as I enjoyed the arguments made in the video, I feel like it didn't address the elephant in the room. People get upset about boob armor not because it's impractical. They get upset about it because it's boobs. Anything erotic or suggestive has the potential to attract angry comments - be it from "concerned" parents (fuck them), the sex-negative identity politics crowd (fuck them too), or the religious and conservative crowd (fuck 'em both ways). Saying that boob armor is "impractical" is just a stand-in, a cop-out, an attempt to find a different angle other than "I find human sexuality offensive". So I don't see how proving or disproving its practicality can address the issue. The designers and artists draw them this way because it's sexy. It's like adding a pinch of salt to your sweet pancake batter, or sprinkling a bit of pepper on your steak. It's by far not the main ingredient, but a spice that can vastly improve and deepen the flavor of the dish, when done right. If you don't like the resulting dish - just order something else. If you feel like you have the right to dictate whether or not others may pepper their steaks, or spice up their character designs - you need a therapist.
@coiler3927
@coiler3927 7 ай бұрын
Amazing video. Besides all the points you touched, a few more: -female shaped armor (look at police vests) is a thing. Yes it's not boobplate but it does exist. I'd imagine it'd be if anything more critical with power armor. -for all the "practical" critiques of sister armor, it gets the biggest part right in that it covers everything. Bad boobplate armor leaves the wearers cleavage (and thus heart) exposed. Sister armor doesn't do that. -Especially in ancient cultures, looking impressive was a real serious important thing. Since 40k is what it is, this applies here.
@alganhar1
@alganhar1 3 ай бұрын
Tests have actually shown that boob armour would have lost little in the way of protection. Yes, people have made period accurate replica late medieval plate boob armour and tested it. What it boils down to is if something could penetrate the armour between the boobs, it would usually penetrate more historical armour. There is a little loss in protection, but not really enough that most people would worry about it. In other words it was perfectly viable if properly made. I have long been of the opinion that the reason why we do not see boob armour in museums is because almost no armour was made for women. Fact is if men could demand ridiculously sized cod pieces that had no functional value on their armour for several centuries simply for fashion, then if armour had been regularly made for women during that period you WOULD have seen boob armour....
@darthjekyll3648
@darthjekyll3648 8 ай бұрын
1:40 perfect armor for commoragh. **WINK, WINK**
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Oh yes classic Dhrukhari battle garb😳 Thank you for watching!
@GungHoSourdough
@GungHoSourdough 2 ай бұрын
I’d really love to see a Sisters of Battle lore explained with like, all the factions and or St Celestine
@nolader28
@nolader28 8 ай бұрын
great video, really like your artstyle too
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! I’m glad you enjoyed the video
@SSerpZZ
@SSerpZZ 2 ай бұрын
4:00 "...examples of cool decorations that serves no purpose... " > show an image at bottom right of fluted armor with folds that sreve purpose of structural reinforcement :P
@trackstar6252
@trackstar6252 3 ай бұрын
Nah this channel is golden 🤣 I wasn’t expecting that armor lore with an “extra sword”
@zanielgaming4296
@zanielgaming4296 7 ай бұрын
There are also some sisters of battle who (if memory serves) as punishment will go into battle with nothing but strips of cloth, sigals, and other churchy kinda stuff with a giant chain sword.
@brianwalsh1339
@brianwalsh1339 7 ай бұрын
Yep, those are the Repentia.
@Kwisatz-Chaderach
@Kwisatz-Chaderach 3 ай бұрын
Kino
@convivial98
@convivial98 8 ай бұрын
great video, much love from this sisters player! just discovered your channel and i love the vibes 💕
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Thank you super! I love the sisters, if I didn’t have so many gray guardsmen I’d definitely get more! I’m glad you enjoyed the video, thank you for watching!
@MistaGuido-nk3iz
@MistaGuido-nk3iz 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, I first got into Warhammer 40k because I thought the Sister of Battle on the Dawn of War: Soulstorm banner looked really cool. The armor they wear looks really cool to me and the stylized breastplate and all the skulls and flare really made it stand out.
@jacobdonnely2608
@jacobdonnely2608 7 ай бұрын
The codpiece was legitimately practical though, it was the middle ground between plate armor faulds and mail skirts, it offered quality protection of the groin which was legitimately important but usually difficult to compromise between good protection of that area or important mobility, specifically for reasons of horse riding because you know, knights. The cod-piece offered reasonable mobility but with better protection than simple mail.
@anoilibrando5435
@anoilibrando5435 3 ай бұрын
"a passionate stroke...of the blade!" 💀🤣 Elite content
@friendlytalbot4050
@friendlytalbot4050 8 ай бұрын
Arguing practically in 40k is always weird, but people still love to do it. The endless arguments about how impractical and bad the Leman Russ tank is could fill entire volumes of books. Speaking of, maybe that could be your next talking point.
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Oh man I certainly have a lot to say about the leman Russ. Imo the current model is one of the best of all time🤣 if they take away my impossibly large battle cannon I’ll be devastated. Thanks for watching!
@blacklanner5886
@blacklanner5886 8 ай бұрын
7:10 I *dare* a heretic to try grabbing one of those points.
@ohk7278
@ohk7278 8 ай бұрын
Love the vid ! Cant wait for this channel to grow
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! I’m glad to hear you enjoyed the video! I’m also excited for the future of this channel, I’ve got some big plans I hope it continues to grow.
@raevenalter3201
@raevenalter3201 2 ай бұрын
The stray 2003 clone wars reference was fantastic.
@DietNihilist
@DietNihilist 6 ай бұрын
One of my favorite quotes about the armor from the guard is “they come in two sizes, too big or too small”
@helline9
@helline9 3 ай бұрын
I remember seeing somewhere years ago that the corset over the power armour was a reference/ reminder of their origins as the 'Daughters of the Emperor' as they would have worn leather armour before they had power armour.
@nickz1259
@nickz1259 8 ай бұрын
wow, would you look at that? I have found an incredible, small creator. You sir have my support let's go!
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words, I will definitely continue to make videos so stay tuned. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!
@roberttaylor9518
@roberttaylor9518 14 күн бұрын
A common suggestion as to why cod pieces became popular is due to rampant syphilis. Its practical side was giving space to prevent pain
@gameoverinsertcointocontin8102
@gameoverinsertcointocontin8102 2 ай бұрын
A single Sister of Battle in boob armor is better for a Guardsmans morale than a a dozen commissars.
@justarandomguy7580
@justarandomguy7580 Ай бұрын
Boobs are better for moral then bullets.
@justarandomguy7580
@justarandomguy7580 Ай бұрын
Boobs are better moral then a bullets
@amatsu9951
@amatsu9951 Ай бұрын
Many people forget that the sisters have literall plot armour in their rules. And if someone comes with, why bother with armour then, some sisters will go naked into battle they are called repentia
@NihlusN7
@NihlusN7 4 күн бұрын
3:56 "Engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever"
@joncrowe7873
@joncrowe7873 24 күн бұрын
"the armour adds grab-points" *looks at the guy with half a jungle gym on his back* "and...?"
@jocosesonata
@jocosesonata 2 ай бұрын
Codpieces: "Gaze upon my mighty girth!"
@Zennsunni
@Zennsunni 6 ай бұрын
I like these animation things, it’s a great way to tell lore, you should do more of the big events and more animations, overall good job
@Raptorman0205
@Raptorman0205 Ай бұрын
2:44 Goated '03 Clone Wars reference
@daverage4729
@daverage4729 7 ай бұрын
What I can't wrap my head around is the armored high heels. That 'Cannot' be practical when you're stepping about a rubble strewn battlefield.
@Kwisatz-Chaderach
@Kwisatz-Chaderach 3 ай бұрын
Chicks do weird things man.
@MansMan42069
@MansMan42069 7 ай бұрын
I remember coming across a fan art of a remembrancer drawing a Sister of Battle in armour. The joke was the actual sister was wearing rather bulky power armour, while the artwork was the classic 40k art.
@geometricdashingjorge1945
@geometricdashingjorge1945 Ай бұрын
I like how this video came out during an eclipse
@NinjaLeekspin
@NinjaLeekspin 6 ай бұрын
I have heard from others that in earlier editions, (pre 8th edition to be specific, because with me getting into 40k & being a Sisters player in 8th, it isn't anything I personally know currently happening), the boobs of the armor housed explosives, most likely as a self destruct functionality or straight up detachable grenades.
@Righteous_Valor
@Righteous_Valor 2 ай бұрын
There’s also a ton of cases of the imperium choosing drip over practicality
@Lem0nsquid
@Lem0nsquid 2 ай бұрын
Gotta protect the holy honkers
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 2 ай бұрын
Everyone forgot the most important aspect of the SoB. Faith! Their golden armor inspires faith, and any accessory like holy seals and incense balls improves the sisters morale and belief in the emperor. Boobs are a miracle.
@abbadullreee3298
@abbadullreee3298 8 ай бұрын
Samuel'o'nellius up here making the best vox videos of the emperors brides
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Oh no you found my main inspiration, my cover is blown🤣. Thank you for watching the video though!
@andrew_ferens
@andrew_ferens 7 ай бұрын
8:46 I love the Jeanstealer so much! :D
@person9846
@person9846 Ай бұрын
I’m surprised he didn’t talk about the winged hussars- they are the definition are really fucking cool with little real reason(yes they made a little noise for scary effect, but come one), and we’re really great cav anyway
@Lancasterlaw1175
@Lancasterlaw1175 7 ай бұрын
You missed the "wasp waist", major example of medieval impractical drip
@zakbook15
@zakbook15 8 ай бұрын
i knew which armour he was talking about, i was just waiting for him to show it hahaha
@luisan776
@luisan776 7 ай бұрын
There’s also the fact that progress is frowned upon: the armor was originally created like that and by the emperor its going to stay that way!
@fallentitan9286
@fallentitan9286 2 ай бұрын
I was told when I got into sisters, the reason why they have very easy seen boob armor was to tell the people who was wearing the armor is a female because with the helmet it could be heard to tell whose under the armor and without the helmet these woman where ugly and had more manish features......... But the corset and all of that other armor choices...I tell people this part of the army is very Victorian era inspired and thats why most of the army looks very Victorian Imperial Guard- Space Vietnam Space Marines- Sci-fy Army Death Korps of Kreig- WW1 Germans Sisters- Christianity Victorian Ad Mechs- Dark Fantasy Cyborgs Custodes- Greek gods in Rome Knights- Poor Pacific Rim Agents- Futuristic Assassins
@UndaLupus
@UndaLupus 3 ай бұрын
Did we also forget that they were also originally called the bridies of the Emperor, hence the corset power armour
@raptorimperium5757
@raptorimperium5757 8 ай бұрын
why do you not have more views or subscribers man- nevertheless! you got one from me!
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! You’re too kind, I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
@farofaespacial3154
@farofaespacial3154 3 ай бұрын
4:00 ummm actually ☝🤓, the armour in the picture of the bottom right corner has those lines of detail for a practical purpose They give it more strenght without needing to add weight I like your videos very much, they're very cool!
@berniegran5391
@berniegran5391 2 ай бұрын
A lot or armies wore masks not just the Japanese, the mask are ther to protect your face , a lot of people could not afford masks and favor instead to invest in armor for the vital parts but those that could afford did buy and use those masks in battle after all noone wants to have their face mangled for the rest of their life after a sword fight
@Skrimpinboss
@Skrimpinboss 2 ай бұрын
KrakDuck has Myocarditis confirmed. 😂😂
@noneofyourbeeswax7379
@noneofyourbeeswax7379 8 ай бұрын
10:15 ...nurgle
@JUST_SOME_SHY_GUY
@JUST_SOME_SHY_GUY 3 ай бұрын
WE INCREASING THE MORALE OF THE GUARDSMAN WITH THIS ONE🗣🔥🔥🔥
@RobbyVogel
@RobbyVogel 16 күн бұрын
I think it is technically possible to make this armor protective it's just expensive and immodest. My main problem is only leather for the torso, segmented plates would be better.
@plussum3255
@plussum3255 6 ай бұрын
7:07 thanks, these would be the things id think about
@huntclanhunt9697
@huntclanhunt9697 3 ай бұрын
The biggest issue about pronounced boob armor is a solid hit to the breast plate will have all it's force directed into the wearer's sternum, which is not a very strong bone.
@tokewarming
@tokewarming 8 ай бұрын
Your goblin is fantastic
@KrakDuk
@KrakDuk 8 ай бұрын
Haha thanks a lot, I love drawing little goblins and ghouls. Thank you for watching
@stevequerin2504
@stevequerin2504 2 ай бұрын
I played W40K 3rd Edition. I chose the Sisters Of Battle as my First Army because ... • All-Female Combat Unit • Basic Army List The Basic Army List was the Main Downfall of the Sisters Of Battle for me. The Sisters Of Battle were basically ignored by GDW; while, every other W40K Army had Multiple Upgrades during the ©1999 Third Edition run. However, my W40K Combat Style was actually Imperial Guard. When the "Second Book Of The Astronomican" came out, I started perfecting my own Sisters Of Battle Codex; which, included creating Custom Designed Vehicles. My Sisters Of Battle Army is called "The White Flame"; which, is representative of the devotion that my Adeptus Sororitas Order has to The Immortal Emperor. I am of the belief that the Large Boob Armor Structure is actually practical in terms of Armor Construction. WARHAMMER 40,000 is an Age Of War; and, Life has no meaning outside of Warfare. Therefore, Mass production of Power Armor with 1 Boob Size Fits All is more efficient than having Power Armor for 5 Different Boob Sizes and a ?6? Different Boob Shapes. I am Generation-X; and, I am X-Rated.
@TheWarCabinet
@TheWarCabinet 2 ай бұрын
People forget that the left boob would also protect the heart so there's at least a bit of practicality there
@dwreanchinotan
@dwreanchinotan 2 ай бұрын
the real problem is when you compare it to sisters repentia and arbites their power armor is clearly carapace armor. even if it's some kind of lighter, smaller yet functional power armor in comparison to astartes, it's just not enough material there to have muscle, mechanisms and actual ablative material. the whole body could stand to be bigger in comparison to the sister's human head. the boob to human head ratio needs to be bigger, in short. as for canon, it would be cooler that people just got confused and the sisters are all empowered by faith to use bolters unaugmented. also checks out for repentia. another idea is that people have made a cloth like material that acts like muscle, so power fabric could still count as power armor, that also being said, actual power armor would open up for new unit possibilities.
@springbonnie6407
@springbonnie6407 4 ай бұрын
QUICK GET THE NEVER GOON EDIT
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