Does surfboard volume really matter?? (Part 2)

[@WillStinton]

If you're under 6 feet and under 200lbs, volume is something you're probably better off kind of ignoring. But if you're like me at 6-2 230lbs I've found it's better to not shop by volume (a point they made in this video), but not ignore it either. "Finding a range" like Tanner said is a good idea, especially for bigger guys because it matters. My everyday shortboard is 6-6, my step up is 7-0, and they're both the same liters of volume which is the point Kolty was making: the contours of the outline and overall shape matters more than the volume. Sorry for the essay, great video guys.

[@pineapplefacetree]

Been surfing since I was 6. Still an advanced intermediate 😂. I went from 26litres at about 70kg ass a teen to 33 litres epoxy at 90kg now. I could go more volume but I’m happy doing cardio. Gotta remember most pros are all super athletes who can get away with 27 litre pu boards. Always go for more volume . These dudes make good content but they haven’t been surfing long enough to tell the difference.

[@peters219]

On a HPSB volume is key. This is assuming you're riding within the length and width of your stature. If you're 5'10" and only 160lbs you can get away with more width and even an extra liter. You leverage the board better with your wider stance than someone 5'8" and 160lbs. If you get it dialed into specific board(brand/model) and wave it's magic. You're locked into your board. Outside of a HPSB, if you're on a fish a midlength etc. then it becomes more subjective to the wave and your surfing. Shapers and shops will always recommend higher volume because they assume you're at a relatively low surfing ability or fitness level and if you were any good you'd have a better grasp of what you need. So there are a lot of HPSB out there that are ridden in volumes and widths for a much larger surfer. This somewhat nullifies the design aspects like sweet spot underfoot and tuned our rails. You're outside of the sweet spot or not using the rails on an oversized shortboard. At this point it's better to get an alternative shape that's designed to be ridden in higher volumes and width then a HPSB. A HPSB in the right volume and width for the surfer is the difference between nursing a board and pushing as hard as you want in critical sections. For a less experienced surfer, using lower volumes boards will result in less waves and catching rails and frustration. Once you start pushing and throwing your board around and feel it planes too much or slides out on turns, you might benefit by going smaller or more refined. Look at what the pros ride. You're not a pro but the sizing they get is dialed all the way in. Use it as a benchmark and size up slightly. All this is about finding your benchmark. As you get older it moves independent of your ability. Also buy a HPSB specific to where you surf. Pyzel Ghosts are insane in Hawaii not SoCal. CI Flyers are made for Cali.

[@coltonspeas1280]

Shout out to the cat who dropped cheeks in the background at 12 minutes in. Love to see it.

[@ebifurai415]

surfing breaks like ocean beach in sf you need the volume for paddling speed for positioning when peaks are often shifting and far away and currents are strong. matters less when you don't have to hunt down the peak like that and you can focus more on how the board surfs

[@KevinDurantOfficialFittness]

Hunting peaks with same board dimensions but more thickness under chest first, then added up and down equally from there when adding volume?

[@peters219]

OB is another machine. There's so much current, and the waves are of a size you want to be on a step-up or gun. But when you're surfing high in the barrel, you want a shorter board. I split the difference and got a Pyzel Ghost to work for me out there. It's one of the best waves I've ever surfed when it's on. I mean it's horrible don't surf there.

[@ebifurai415]

@@KevinDurantOfficialFittness totally depends on conditions and wave size and the style of surfing you want to do. Some people just want to get barreled when it’s on and will surf a bigger quad/step up. Horses for courses

[@pnwpovsurfer_]

Eggzaxctly! When I’m surfing a place with shifting peaks and tons of current give me plenty uh board

[@inFAMOUSBeatsGFx]

13:56 & 14:31 Absolutely nailed it 🎯

[@kylestanford7574]

Volume is hugely relevant. Especially with big guys that surf well. Think about opening a 12 ounce can of your favorite beverage. Whether you drink it out of a wine glass or straight from the can it will change the experience of how you consume it. Volume is a capacity measurement of the product you are receiving. Just as important as length, width and thickness.

[@KevinDurantOfficialFittness]

Like beer bong with one tube or quad tubes reconnecting into single or like hydrology water piston forced from one tube into 4 simultaneously?

[@KevinDurantOfficialFittness]

After seeing a short about wavepoos, i think everybody overlooks salt water as volume/more floating literature? Maybe a beach with more salt volume means more atmospheric literage

[@sebbeasant1868]

Would be sick if you could interview Timmy P and get his thoughts on volume.

[@bigfri5]

If you're at the level where you can't connect a turn. Volume doesn't matter for you as long as its above the minimum amount to let you float comfortably. Other than that, it's situational.

[@nickrudine2365]

Do you think it’s better to ride one board and figure out how to ride it in all conditions or try lots of different boards every time the conditions change? Assuming it’s an average surfer or someone who surfs less than 50 days a year. not some shralper who’s already dialed.

[@catinthehat8412]

the entry rocker can make boards easier to pebble

[@joeblow2183]

I love the supernova xtr . I’m 69 and I’m packing a lot of volume. I guess I’ve always ridden high volume . What’s so cool is that I can repeatedly duck dive this board which I’ve never been able to do. It paddles like a champ and is nice n loose with twin plus trailer. I should be able to sink the rail pretty good. We will see.

[@Raw_Surf]

YES Volume big thing,was 78 to 80 kg 27L to 29L and now im 108 kg 36 L to 40L have too .

[@fredriksalmen5159]

Same here, 27-32L at ~80kg, now at 100 kg I have a 39L and a 57L (for really small and weak surf).

[@Raw_Surf]

@@fredriksalmen5159 wave is wave my friend

[@ebifurai415]

appreciate the discussion. i do think foam distribution and where the foam is is super important and a lot of people don't focus on that when having a volume discussion

[@peters219]

Yeah some shapers have volume forward or even a steady entry rocker profile that lends to easy paddle. This will paddle better than other brands with similar volume dimension. It's why dialing in volume has to be for specific shaper and board. It will need adjustments when changing brands and shortboard model.

[@KevinDurantOfficialFittness]

That was 7 minutes of saying nothing. I get the laid back approach, but i wish you could have articulated your point more on the belgium volume of pure Waffles, i dont think you take volume seriously.

[@peters219]

I think they don't want to key in on something that's generally not specific when you change shaper/model. Pyzels feel like .5 liters more than a Lost. Sharpeyes feel similar in liters but paddle worse than Pyzels. This is just some observations but it changes with models. Pyzel Radious has steady continues rocker that paddle easy. Sharpeye HT2 has wider outline in the back and rocker forward so it doesn't paddle as well. Pros don't care about paddle as much they just switch to different boards for conditions, ie, HT2 normal waves 77 when it gets better, etc. I think the 77 is more like Radious so easier paddle and they ride it longer too. Sorry for the ramblings but I think it illustrates the nuances with specifying volumes.

[@ikhwanzaki4384]

im 5'2 and 132 lb.. is the length and width of the boards important too ? or i should just focus on the volume ?

[@ShralpStories]

I would say length and width is the most important part to be honest. Volume can help guide you a little but focus on length and width to start

[@j.carlat]

Thanks stoked. 🤙🏽

[@Unwavering137]

Does a boards ability to paddle well matter???

[@peters219]

If you surf barreling waves like Pipeline, boards that will glide or paddle well will give you an advantage and the ability to get in early. This is the case also in current and or in the winter when you're in a thick wetsuit. In the summer in small waves with little current you may have boards that are suited for more high performance surfing but have rocker profiles and or volume distribution that don't paddle as well. So, whoever is in these circumstance might consider boards based on their extra paddle. The Pyzel Ghost has lower rocker forward with extra foam under your chest. This allows for a shorter board that paddles more like a step-up. So it matters when you want it to.

[@peters219]

Also, if a board paddles really well you have the added option to go lower in volume.

[@Unwavering137]

I tend ride steeper waves that are head high or bigger so I consider a boards ability to paddle well of paramount importance. It allows you to get into the wave early or take a late drop with the extra paddling speed to get into the wave and make your first turn. I'm thinking about a Pyzel Ghost for this exact reason. Paddling speed is critical.

[@MrRobinski]

hell yes

[@matthewschultz9902]

Volume doesn’t matter. I’m 6’4 230 and I’ve gone as low as 28 L and as high as 40 L. Only difference is paddling but if you’re in decent shape you can make it work. Once you’re up and riding more volume is ass

[@CoconutSurfing]

Stallone 5'10"

[@grantrichey5620]

Because ITS FIRING

[@974beavis]

i mean , volume is good for kooks and weak breacks , tho u paddle easier, but the fact is it's pretty hard to control at speed . should not go above 37 l