Does Surfboard Volume Really Matter??

[@danethorpe9845]

Here’s the thing, Volume matters when your not planing on the wave, such as paddling, when you get up to planing speed on a wave that excessive volume is going to create excess drag on the wave and make it harder to roll on rail and hold rail, although in micro waves having that excess volume will help due to the wave speed being slower

[@JTJorge]

"Nobody really understands it" Archimedes leaves the chat..

[@AddisonRowland]

Feel like volume is just another dimension, it can tell you if a 6 x 20 x 2 1/2 is bladed out or chubbed up but it’s really not the end of it because if you have a flat or bannana rocker or a super wide or pulled in tail you can have the same dims, and volume and still have two completely different boards that will suit different waves and people. Side note do other people not have a quiver of boards with diff volumes? Like surely you get your fish and ure shorty with kinda low volumes but u also have a mid and a longer board for when u wanna cruise and they would be much higher? Personally have a 33L fish, 36L shorty, 54L mid and a 75L log

[@radiokaput]

Volume is important at low speed (i.e. paddleing). When surfing itself the area and the rails are important and volume doesn't matter at all. So the important thing to know is the minimum volume for you to be able to paddle comfortably enough without injuring your shoulders and your back and to be able to catch waves consistently. From there you can go as fat as you like. Given that a shortboard with an average glass pattern weights very similar in a wide range of sizes, knowing the volume gives you the idea of its flotation. They give the voume that says the program, which means of the foam before glassing. So also the type of glassing will change final volume of the boars (and the weight). But that final real volume we never get to know.

[@matchesmalone9266]

Facts, great comment

[@Canaryisland1]

What Radiokaput says makes lots of sense. I usually go with “how much I sink” when I sit on the board. When I’m sank til above my waist, I paddle with most control, efficiency, and speed because I can utilize rails while paddling. If I’m floating too high on th water it becomes hard to use rails in a prone position.

[@rasmuszaurins7233]

Shralp totally misrepresents the volume that comes out of the shaping machine. Actually it´s MORE than the final shape will be! And it´s only because the machines are still quite inacurate because of their too large machine toolheads, the goal is to minimize that. Everyone knows that blanks come out of machine with sinuswave like cuts, then shapers will eliminate those upper ridges untill they levelled the blank on the low sinuses. That´s when the real volume of the board should be achieved, not just after machining. If the shaper changes the boards shape after this process then indeed volume is lost, but only then. @radiokaput: 3D-computer designing and shaping would also permit to add the volume of glassing. All that is needed is to measure the thickness of your used glassing job and then make the the 3D-file of blank minus that mms that would be the glassing, actually pretty simple. In other applications like sailboards that is done since a very long time, as laminates are much thicker there, up to 7-8mms. I think some volume information is really messed because some will measure with laminate and some without, In sailboarding it´s allways with laminate and filler, that should also be the standard in surfing. Then you will get the right physical flotation when weight is substracted.

[@DavidLopez-ug2zo]

The best part of this video was when one kook ran into the other one

[@lj2700]

I feel like everyone has an old longboard board they don't use anymore. Would you make a video converting a 9'0 to a short board? A fun thick board. Great videos...Pack the Closeout 2024!!

[@davidamato]

Volume is just another metric, the one that most people can understand, but there are so many other factors that will make a board work, rocker, rails, plane shape, tail etc...

[@whosjohn_jon]

Flashback fridays where you ride an older board and review it

[@jeffilli1663]

i just hold my boards and give em a good look over, flip em a round a few times and if it all checks out im on it.

[@overheadsurf]

Best comment. I remember buying boards in the 80s, arm test, glassed on fins. What size were the fins? Who the hell knows. Just pick a board out that feels good and go out and surf.

[@Canaryisland1]

You really wouldn’t know until you sit on it in water. If I sank just above waist below my boobs, that’s the right volume for me because that’s when I paddle most efficiently.

[@rasmuszaurins7233]

@@overheadsurf Proud to be an ignorant, amazing.

[@Bandy983]

Tips work and clips are sick keep up the good work

[@catinthehat8412]

I'm Australian I'm 87 kg I ride 30to 33 short boards I can't catch waves on under that because we're I live the waves are no very powerful 🤙

[@radiokaput]

Similar weight and range of volume I'm riding in the north of Spain :)

[@KevinDurantOfficialFittness]

5:05 he's feinstein to come out the stand up paddle closet

[@surffreq1752]

Cheers , good video ! I find the major disadvantage of higher volume boards is my inability to duck dive them , especially in overhead waves ! 😄✌🙏

[@jameseden2216]

Fan Friday. Speak about whatever gets the most likes comment from the Friday before

[@inFAMOUSBeatsGFx]

No disrespect but this feels like a "Trust me bro" "explanation". Volume is a reference. Pure and simple. It can be useful to get an idea of the necessary buoyancy for your bodyweight (as a matter of fact, multiple pros' weight in KG is about 2.5-2.75 times their regular hpsb board volume). As you mentioned, even the exact same board with the same dims and volume can feel completely different. By that logic then no reference is ever reliable, not just volume, and each board is a double blind russian roulette... OR... you can triangulate dims, volume, shape, construction and fin setup to make an educated guess. There are no absolutes, ever. But saying just "Do an under the arm test" and see how it feels is the laziest "advice" you could give imo. I get it. But still, this feels like one of those "How to fly a plane tutorials" where Step1 is "Get onto the plane" and Step2 "Fly it!". Yah, No sht 😅

[@soopahiro]

Thanks so much for making these films - I really like the vibe and tone and how you mix technical knowledge with surfing footage. Awesome job. Hello from South West England

[@ShralpStories]

Glad you like them!

[@Jack-ib4pq]

Fin Friday🤝

[@matthiaspeiffer9866]

Nice vid :D yhea more of a beginner itermediate myself so using volume as a base guide as like a range i want to find a board in but then like the width and how to rails feel etc becomes more important, for the tube episode that you talked about one question ive always had and maybe its because i am not good enough myself i get scared of my board hiting me if i try to get barrelled is that something i can do something about maybe knowing how to bail ?

[@msilver1991]

Your videos are the best man, thank you.

[@Jacqwar]

On Fridays, call it “free surf fridays” where you talk about surfing WITHOUT A LEASH. - benefits of surfing without a leash - when to do this - how to progress to this - does it progress ones surfing - etc

[@ShralpStories]

Ohhhhh that’s gooooood

[@PiersYT]

Performance boards for waves with push (inc grovellors) definetly get with as little volume as possible if you are good enough to be on a real shortboard, for fat slow mushy waves big or small getting more volume and glide is great (fishes or mids are great here as they are designed with those attributes) or you end up having to do very ugly twitchy speed generation (huntington hop tic tac etc) to link turns and make sections - not a pretty sight better to adjust the surfing style and board style to the type of wave your riding I think

[@pnwpovsurfer_]

How it feels under the arm and definitely having a close relationship with a shaper 💯

[@krokus1972]

volume is the easist way to sell a board to a kook

[@nalukeko]

I should go to Salt Creek more often… it’s actually closest to my house.

[@AEVMU]

Volume is overrated for all but beginner surfers. If you can afford it, or if you make your own boards, take a model you like, keep the nose, tail, and rails the same thickness, but make or have made, the board less than 2 inches thick. I've done this. It paddles like crap but you pretty quickly adjust and once you are up and riding, it feels BETTER and more sensitive. Volume is used by beginner and intermediates to help with paddling and it's used by advanced surfers as a very poor proxy for wetted surface area. For in-shape advanced surfers in waist to a bit overhead waves, forget volume completely. You can paddle an alia board into waves too right? Advanced surfers would do very well to thin out the middle (front foot area) of their boards and I'm surprised HPSB are still over 2 inches thick. Ask Timmy to try it as an experiment (beef up the stringer though). I'll buy him lunch if I'm wrong. The real key is to not change the rail shape at all in any way and that's where most shapers fuck it up.

[@ShralpStories]

That’s a rad perspective. Gona have to give it a go

[@williamhanley7031]

Thick or thin tall or short. That's all we went by in the 70s and 80s. Liter, volume. I here you.. base wax?

[@mjchargerSD]

Yep. Use it as a generalization. I focus on rocker/ low entry, width, thickness and then volume. Banana board with a ton of volume that paddles like shit isn’t better because it matches your preferred volume.

[@diskurrverychannel7238]

i think what you say is true. volume doesnt really matter like you could ride 100 liters and have fun. I think its just a good way for people to start and look at their weight and kinda average it out with volume, like what would float you good? now that said, im 180lbs and i thought 27L was waaayyy to low for me, and i took my buddys HS once when it was pumping and it was a 27L little chippy thing and I went suuuuuper inverted on one turn which made me realise maybe i was putting myself in this 32L range category but in reality 32L is good because its floats me well on average day sub par whatever you wanna call it. but now i realise i really want a chippy board. maybe longer than that 5'7 he passed me because im tall but really its all about like having a knifey board, an all rounder, a groveler/fish. and then yeah like fuck volume if were talking logs and middies it doesnt even matter at that point because youre letting the soul surf and not trying to push it and just styling it out! love the videos bruuuu!!!

[@hasmecyoszo4654]

This was 7 minutes of saying nothing. This would have been a great video if good information was actually shared. I get the laid back approach you’re going for but the awkward pauses and such make it hard to watch. I really wish you could have articulated your point more instead of pure waffle. Volume actually is quite important and I don’t think you conveyed one reason why we shouldn’t take volume seriously.

[@ShralpStories]

Epic feedback we appreciate it

[@KevinDurantOfficialFittness]

Belgium waffles an waffles fries are soo bomb

[@nickrudine2365]

Made sense to me! I like how you film a surf session before the rest of the video to verify you can surf well before doing any talking. Even if the waves are tricky. Too bad there’s no way for someone to do that before they post a comment!

[@hasmecyoszo4654]

@@nickrudine2365I really like the surf footage but just because somebody can surf it doesn’t mean everything they then have to say is automatically right.

[@connorm3457]

Volume is super simple. Your body weight requires a minimal amount of equal floatation (buoyancy) to keep you planing above the surface just enough to avoid bogging. Your athleticism, weight, skill/ability (and the waves at times) will define how much buoyancy ya need. If you’re strong, and fast enough to affectively paddle a thin small rockered out HPSB, you’ll have fun, once you’re on a good bowling wave. Slow mushier waves is a different story. Ability, waves, crowd factor may require more float, so it’s easier to catch waves. Too much volume (float) and your weight may not sink areas of board (tail, rails) that do most of the real work. Not enough, and you’re sinking, digging for and missing waves (to others with more volume 😮) that you should have gotten. It should float ya just enough to get you into waves. 💪🤙🙏

[@ginjaturtles]

I think the biggest takeaway is volume isn't everything. So many people focus on just one key variable of a board design when there are so many other aspects to take into consideration like concave, rail profile, rocker, width, etc.

[@ShralpStories]

Nailed it🔥

[@botaccount3449]

Bill Stewart would be proud

[@gilberibrahim8879]

I see a lot of videos about volume and a lot of people agree that volume is not the most important. But noonr exolore the fact that a lot of surfers that been surfing a long time get older gain weight but still dont want to surf logs ( u agree that a 220lbs cant surf a board that is 27ltts ) so what di we do go by volume ir not?

[@ginjaturtles]

Fish fridays for fishes and twin fins haha

[@ShralpStories]

That sounds sickkkkk

[@williamhanley7031]

Grovelers are great up until you get real speed and want to do a sharp cutty. Just doesn't hold .

[@akidnamedjake]

Entry rocker can be just as important as volume. Like you said, 2 boards that are different shapes but the same volume will paddle completely differently. No offense but your buddy wasn’t much help on the topic

[@ShralpStories]

Haha Shayne is just here for a good time 😂

[@surfingheros]

Not sure why it became such a buzz word for surfing. "My shaper says I should be riding a board with this much volume..." 😂In the late 80-90's nobody cared at all about volume, they just wanted boards that worked. Go look at some of the clips of Curren and Occy, their boards were pushing 45-50 L [Black Beauty was 2 7/8 thick] and they ripped.

[@REDboardriders]

Lets just say you have some gaps in your knowledge and leave it there 😅

[@ShralpStories]

Educate me 🙏

[@finnnesbitt3186]

fin talk friday

[@DavidLopez-ug2zo]

In America we measure volume in gallons

[@whitewaterwarrior3339]

And men can have periods

[@hunterfisher8445]

raw wave friday pls 🙏

[@KevinDurantOfficialFittness]

"Whats the volume of your wife?" -Stewart

[@Windds]

Dude don’t burn yourself out of filming videos

[@phil4346]

Confuse them with rocker profiles next.

[@georgetshai]

agree

[@deesmix6757]

6 inches thick and 30 inches wide. 😂

[@tblr448]

how much do you weigh

[@ShralpStories]

Around 175-180

[@DCJiuJitsuGeelong]

Dose volume matter Not in the way crew are talking about

[@ManambeLavaka]

Didn’t you go to school?

[@pineapplefacetree]

I’m 92 kg 200lbs for the America ppl. So just over victim weight. My epoxy is 33.3 litres. Any pu I like over 35 litres even a bit more. If youv got chicken legs go for about 27 litres and under fellers. This vid sucks.

[@Mr.Bevels]

Guy doesn’t know chit.

[@Jacqwar]

First

[@lkmusic9840]

Dude has no clue what he’s saying

[@goodtimesmaggr]

more Shan-o- please!!!