Does the Bible Support Same-Sex Marriage, Part 1: Preston Sprinkle

[@aar3325]

Appreciate your wanting to tackle this. However our Lord and God was clear and succinct about this in Mark 10:5-9. It took Him just 5 verses to spell it out loud and clear!

[@aar3325]

…however, being respectful, empathetic, compassionate, AND humble goes a long, long way! Nothing is more divisive than just hitting people over the head with one’s view, no matter how much it may be based in truth!

[@DrDoerk]

​@@aar3325very true on both points!

[@sassafras8677]

@@aar3325read the book of acts , they literally “hit them over the head” with the Truth . one of 2 reactions followed. people either wanted to kill them OR they wanted to know how to be saved.

[@Yesica1993]

6:28 "I offer five reasons why I believe that the the best reading of Scripture is that marriage is between one man and one woman." Let me fix this for you: The ONLY reading of Scripture is that marriage is between one man and one woman. I am 9 minutes in and I still don't know where this man is landing on the issue. Why is this so complicated?! The Bible is 100% clear!

[@JosiahTheSiah]

You time-stamped and quoted his position (6:28) ...did you forget it 3 minutes later? Or did you not realize you were quoting his position?

[@Yesica1993]

Why does it take an hour (and 2 parts!) to say, NO?

[@filipeterra2603]

Because it is about the book not the question itself

[@lilyflower1168]

He wants to sell a book

[@Yesica1993]

@@lilyflower1168 Ha ha, doesn't everyone these days?

[@gingy23ben5]

The Book is titled 'Does the Bible Support Same Sex Marriage?" The book has 21 different questions and arguments that are usually used to support same sex marriage. He dives into each one of these arguments in his book. Some are scholarly arguments that take different interpretations of Scripture to claim that same sex marriage is okay according to the Bible. If you don't want to dive into these arguments, this book is not for you. Sprinkle though is non-affirming and supports a traditional marriage ethic.

[@dawick5]

@@gingy23ben5 I'm thinking out loud a bit here, just trying to find my way... but I'm starting to think that "traditional marriage ethic" is like a trojan horse that side-b Christians and those who support them use to wedge their way into conservative/non-progressive churches. IMO as soon as you affirm the use of the term "gay-christian" you no longer hold a "traditional sexual ethic." There is way too much nuance and redefining of terms going on. This ait traditional in any sense.

[@DoubtfireClubWGPowers]

1. Be willing to Rethink (think differently about your point of view) 2. Be authenticly curious about someone else's point of view. 3. Be a genuine listener. 4. Be able to articulate their point of view correctly. 5. Ask questions seeking to learn. 6. Approach others in good faith. 7. Have empathy but not necessarily sympathy. 8. Find a point of agreement to work from 9. Summarize their argument and seek a "that's right".. not a "you're right" 10. Gain an understanding of the "Tribe" that they're coming from And the consequences they will face if they deviate from that tribe. 11. Seek humility and do not be overly confident of your point of view. Or... 12. If you are a Baptist you can skip all this and just beat them in the head with your Bible until they repent. That has worked out so well over the last 20 years.

[@SAOProductions1955]

Or you can be Reformed and just know what the Scriptures truly teach and go from there and be obediently seeking to be faithful to the classic/orthodox position that there is absolutely no room to make these sorts of accommodations to the zeitgeist without doing irreparable damage to the faith.

[@DoubtfireClubWGPowers]

@@SAOProductions1955 Reformed Baptist,???😉😜

[@SAOProductions1955]

@@DoubtfireClubWGPowers - Your response displays a woeful ignorance on your part. The key to discerning truth and error is in knowing the Scriptures and unlike your eleven points, proves what is good and worth thinking about - not some anthropological nonsense derived from the delusion that true humility and authenticity and acting in good faith can be sourced from something other than a true knowledge of the Holy Scriptures.

[@loragilb7251]

So important! Everything you said was about sharing the truth in love. I feel like Christians are so bad at that. Thank you so much.

[@loragilb7251]

I mean not everything you said, but the first half of what you said was about sharing the truth in love.

[@markmatson2645]

You are wrong Preston. Not every Church denomination globally condemns same sex unions. One point that I also will make. The global Church denominations once condoned the enslavement of Black persons.

[@patchlips]

Thanks Preston. As a little older Gen Xer im so encouraged by this first chapter and that you think it was important to open with. Im getting a copy just for this chapter. I know the rest will be great as well. Because of Gods sovereignty and the one who changes hearts I can take the time to be kind, listen, build a relationship and have a fruitful conversation. Thanks dude.

[@Lianel402]

How many No’s can you fit in a book…

[@emilio3495]

Dear Preston, I have watched over 10 of your videos and I bought your book about same sex marriage and if the bible supports it. My only conclusion is that you are the perfect example of someone who can ramble for an hour and a half and say NOTHING. Koodos!! What a talent!

[@elizabethdyck4137]

We are all sinners and fall short and once we accept Jesus in our lives, we are to live our lives according to what Jesus wants for us.

[@daveflanagan4213]

Appreciated the intelligent and generous methodology of how we demonstrate respect in the way we conduct debates in general. Yea that was helpful.

[@garycleveland6410]

Leviticus 18-22 and Romans 1:26 answer this question. No. The Bible does not support same sex relationships.

[@mitchelll3879]

No...the end

[@kelizabethg1]

Loving the book list! I’ve added all the ones you mentioned to my library while I desperately await your book to release.

[@vickisoup]

Christ in his sermon on the mount took less time than this man to cover a lot more things than this single topic. It seems like selling his book was the point.

[@gillianstapleton8566]

Em no because marriage is there to provide a stable family for children which isn’t possible in same sex marriages without an other person being involved: the legalization of same sex couples is to do with tax & inheritance and legal rights when that long term relationship comes to an end. Legal stuff is different from religion but often those lines get crossed.

[@libbylib1819]

Just subbed after Jackie Hill Perry recommended you during your chat with the Perrys❣️

[@Indorm]

Be willing to change your view. Be a good listener. You already have commenters who aren't willing to do either.

[@bethseibert2002]

A true Christ-follower is always willing to be a good listener ... but we will NEVER compromise God's view. NEVER. God's Word is 100% clear. NO COMPROMISE. Love and truth, but NEVER compromise.

[@Lianel402]

You honor the God of the Bible when you honor His Word. You don’t get to change or downplay the Word as to not offend people in the Alphabet community. They need Jesus, not your next book.

[@Yesica1993]

9 minutes of watching/listening and up to 43 minutes of scanning the transcript and I still haven't seen a full statement of his views on the topic. There is no such thing as same sex marriage. Marriage is between 1 man/1 woman. All the letters in the Alphabet Flag are sin. ALL of them. That's laid out in Genesis, not just 6 "clobber passages." Jesus upheld Genesis, therefore he did address homosexuality. It doesn't matter when the term "homosexuality" was coined. The concept has always been there. And the Bible always calls it sin. See how easy that was? Good grief.

[@JosiahTheSiah]

This is a partial overview of his book, which is explained to the listener in the first 30 seconds. Not sure why you're looking for a "statement of my views" in a book overview. But he does lay out in the beginning section of the video his view of Biblical marriage, that it is between one man and one woman. And he gives a rather robust support for that, then briefly addresses common objections to that. Not sure what is missing here?

[@a_man_with_some_plans]

​@@JosiahTheSiahbecause it should be a minute video: no.

[@JosiahTheSiah]

@@a_man_with_some_plans a minute-long book overview?

[@christinavidal2935]

Are you open-minded enough to read "Five Lies of Our Anti-Christian Age"?

[@kelizabethg1]

Preston is 47?!?!?! Is anyone else shocked by this? I feel like he looks younger than me, but he’s 7 years older🤣 Must be some great genes and skin care routine.

[@chad_stew]

Preston, my brother, this is a goldmine! The portion about how to engage in discussion that includes folks of different perspectives, regardless of a topic, told me that I gotta get your book. Then taking that content forward into the question of same sex marriage is must hear / must read for me. Thank you so much for your ongoing contribution!

[@gr8god4u]

How many conversations have you had with Dr David Gushee?

[@sassafras8677]

if u have to work to find points you agree with the other person ,who are you trying to please? the other person or God….

[@daveflanagan4213]

Er no. There ya go. That was quick.

[@MrSeedi76]

Fun fact - the Bible doesn't know about a ceremony called marriage. Plus - Christians need only follow the noahide laws. Rest of the 613 laws of the OT are irrelevant for us. Just in case you wanted to follow up with "but homosexuality is forbidden". Nope, it's not. The only thing forbidden is infidelity. There are no other laws concerning "moral sexual behavior" that apply to Christians and are mentioned anywhere. But some preachers might lie to you and tell you things that aren't even in the Bible are supposedly "clear" or "biblical" while they are absolutely not. Like the unbiblical idea that there is a distinction between "moral" and "ceremonial" laws and all the other tricks evangelicals use to make you buy into their heresy. Basically current evangelicals aren't even Christians in my opinion. They are an old-testament "pseudo Israelite" sect that follows a few Bible verses they pick and choose over others because they fit their Authoritarian right-wing worldview. But most of them have nothing to do with Christianity at all, let alone with anything Jesus taught. I sure hope they'll wake up one day from their wrong ways before it's too late but I have my doubts. They probably will not stop until they have destroyed the authentic Christian faith in the US to sell out to money and power. Fooled by the delusion that Christians are called to enforce their beliefs on everybody else in society, Christian or not. Another unbiblical idea of course. But at least they're not alone. Churches all over the world stand on the wrong side of history. It's almost expected at this point. Misinformation, misinterpretation, picking and choosing, searching for wrong teachers that "tickle the ears" and tell people what they wanna hear so they can fuel their unchristian rage and become instruments of oppression, distorting the message about the "truth that will set us free". How well Jesus has prophesied of these people. The pharisees of today who want to put heavy burdens on people's shoulders that they themselves don't even wanna lift with one finger. Like the all too familiar scandals of evangelical preachers in the US prove.

[@bethseibert2002]

@@MrSeedi76 ... you are SADLY mistaken. God's Word is clear in the OLD and NEW Testaments. Romans 1:24-27 ... "Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason, God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error."

[@DrDoerk]

​@@MrSeedi76 Jesus defines marriage... which was created in genesis.....

[@elizabethdyck4137]

So do you affirm same sex marriage?

[@gingy23ben5]

He does not fall in line with that no

[@neilmunro6683]

This at best was unusual!! It would be difficult to think of Jewish's individuals thinking or acting in some of the ways being propagated here., particularly when dealing with the propagators of the law. The actions of the prophets of the past gives clear indication of their thoughts and inner perceptions of the time.. Jews and Jewish customs are not western by foundation so it seams reasonable to conclude thinking and processing would be different and vary from a western view of life in general.. For example some people have a problem with a literal demon or a literal devil or angel or messenger from god, or spirit beings or hell or the virgin birth.... Lochness Scottish Highlands..

[@biddiemutter3481]

Can someone help explain the sudden use of 'human' to talk about more than one person? It begs the question, are you expecting your pets, wildlife or livestock to be conversing with you? 9:45

[@indljoe]

Wow, just to say NO, you took 90min+ too sell the book? Not sure if you heard , beating the bush, means, of not don't waste your time, that's what it is

[@MrHCify]

Do we need over an hour and then a part two to actually figure this out? I’m just baffled.

[@spinlok3943]

In this day and political climate, unfortunately yes.

[@Yesica1993]

I'm trying to see if this guy is for same sex "marriage" (there is no such thing) or against it. I really don't want to sit through over an hour of this.

[@DrDoerk]

​@@Yesica1993I read his book "people to be loved". His conclusion is that homosexual acts are sin (something that we all already knew). But then he goes more into how the Christian church needs to be more supportive and loving to those who struggle with this sin and how the church needs to do better with singles (because someone who struggles in this area are called to be single). It's actually quite a good book..... however, I heard that he supports going to gay wedding.... which is absolutely absurd, so I'm trying to find if that's true

[@Yesica1993]

@@DrDoerk (because someone who struggles in this area are called to be single) Not everyone. This is a sin that needs to be repented of. There are people who have done that and eventually gotten married, had children. The problem is that we now see this as something you ARE, instead of something you DO. But we don't do that even with other sexual sins! We don't say, "Your identity is an adulterer." We say, "Adultery is sin. Repent of your sin of adultery." We don't say, "Your identity is a fornicator." We say, "Fornication is sin. Repent your sin of fornication." We don't say, "Your identity is a prostitute." We say, "Prostitution is a sin. Repent of your sin of prostitution." Do you see the difference? Christ sets people FREE. That's why 1 Corinthians 6 says, "such WERE some of you." (Emphasis, mine.) It lists all kinds of sins there, sexual and non sexual. Am I saying people don't still struggle with the temptations? Of course not. We ALL have sins we struggle with, and on different levels. But this is the only sin I know where the sin itself is called someone's identity - as though it's something they just ARE, and can never escape. How discouraging is that? That is not the biblical message! You are not your sin!

[@jfitz6517]

This is so well thought out, gracious, kind, & insightful. Thank you so much for your work Preston. Unfortunately as Proverbs warns us foolish people will buck against wise appeals, but many are listening & are being helped by your work.

[@SAOProductions1955]

It is certainly "wisdom". But it isn't the sort that comes from above.

[@kellysmith3237]

So so helpful. Thank you for doing this. And thanks for being a leader in this area.

[@biddiemutter3481]

Thank you Preston.

[@markwilliams5606]

Stop this ignorance. God is Sovereign 💪.

[@dansaber5853]

You can be LGBT and Christian 👨‍❤️‍👨

[@bethseibert2002]

NOPE. One cannot embrace the Cross and Sin.

[@dansaber5853]

@@bethseibert2002 wrong

[@bethseibert2002]

@@dansaber5853 ... Bless your lost heart. Salvation is NOT an ABC prayer. Jesus requires our heart. Again, one canNOT embrace the Cross and sin ... Choose you this day Whom you will serve.

[@bethseibert2002]

@@dansaber5853 ... God's Word is 100% clear regardless of how you try to explain away the clear Scripture: Romans 1:24-27 ... "Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason, God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error."

[@dansaber5853]

@@bethseibert2002 that's no excuse to be in the closet or you can't be a Christian

[@westyso.cal.8842]

I suppose if you’re one of those “Progressive Christians” that love to explain all the different ways that the Bible doesn’t actually mean what it says. No thanks, Preston. It’s time for you to repent.

[@TheNintenBits]

Have you ever actually listened to him lol?

[@jaaaaysselam3372]

@@TheNintenBits You think these bots watch the videos before they comment? lol

[@biddiemutter3481]

@westyso.cal.8842 no, he doesn't and his book sounds like a useful tool.

[@TheNintenBits]

@@jaaaaysselam3372 ah it was late, didn't catch it was a bot

[@gingerjeff6385]

@@TheNintenBitsif you look at every comment section of Preston’s videos, you’ll probably find this user saying something negative about him.