Does the RYZEN 5800x3D improve VR performance in MSFS?

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[@kelownatechkid]

Great work testing! I have seen incredible framerates in my testing in FPS titles thus far with this CPU (250+ in BFV) so it's awesome to see sim gamers benefit too.

[@wizard1701a]

The same comparison for DCS would be great.

[@matthewmoore5934]

Finally got my hands on a 30-series GPU and now my 2700x is decidedly a bottleneck. Stoked about this upgrade, especially in Flight Simulator, and so happy to not have to switch sockets! Nice job AMD.

[@saveEarth69]

nice, j/w what specs do you have there? gpu shortage is over so now im bored!

[@matthewmoore5934]

3080Ti and 5800x3D are a great flightsim VR combo. 100% render scale in sim, full rez in the Oculus settings, and 40 fps most of the time.

[@meeks726]

How was your fps on the 2700x with 3080ti?

[@Shyningfade]

I'd love to see how this cpu handles No Man's Sky and Boneworks. I've heard it works wonders for Skyrim/Fallout VR too. Thank you for making this video, btw! It's greatly appreciated to get solid VR testing.

[@abaj006]

Wow the 5800X3D is a must have VR CPU. Cant wait till Ryzen 7000!

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

you and me both :-)

[@Tom--Ace]

Must have? How? With no comparison to Intel 12th gen, we can't draw that conclusion at all. In fact, seems to me that for high end VR, you're better off getting the best gpu

[@coolhand4598]

@@Tom--Ace Flightsim is CPU bottlenecked at ALL resolutions regardless of the GPU

[@WSS_the_OG]

Ryzen 7000 X3D version, for sure. The standard version won't boast the cache of the X3D, and that cache seems to be what's giving games their biggest shot in the arm.

[@WSS_the_OG]

@@Tom--Ace Ignoring the CPU and going all eggs in the GPU basket is like putting racing tires on a Camry. All parts of the system need to be addressed for proper performance.

[@WSS_the_OG]

Great test. I'm a VR dabbler, although I haven't taken the plunge (no pun intended) with MS FS. I'm a numbers nut too, and I've found FPS to be trivial at best, and useless at worst. As you've mentioned, frame-time consistency is what matters the most with VR. The FPS number is an average of an average, and gives no indication of frame-time consistency, and that's the thing we're most sensitive to. The focus on frame-time is the way to go.

[@tobiasruh4374]

Nailed it. Totally Agree.

[@ksp1278]

Interesting. I had a 5950X and have swapped in a 5800X3D. With X-Plane 11 with triple 1440p displays I saw 17% improvement in framerate at London Heathrow with a 3rd Party 737 (Zibo). Between benchmark runs the results were more consistent with the average FPS (for same scenario) varying by 3% for the 5950X and 1% for the 5800X3D

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

very interesting and its good to hear that the results are good for other sim's as well - bodes well for the future of flight sims and Ryzen 7000

[@beosliege]

Thanks for sharing your results of 5950x versus 5800X3D. The 5950x is what I have and I was wondering how that comparison would go.

[@nicholashurl3030]

So glad to see a performance video using the Index. Been using mine for 2yrs. This is the 1st time seen a reviewer use one.

[@deliveryguy_26]

Watched your video and decided to make the jump. Thank you so much for making this video! I've upgraded my CPU from 5600G to 5800x3D and wowwww, what a difference! My FPS while flying over Seattle are jumped from 36 FPS to 58 FPS with the new 5800x3D. I have VR settings at Ultra, and turned off spacewarp. My graphics card is 4070. Now when I turn spacewarp on, I get easily 90 FPS and stutters went significantly down.

[@gilbertprassl2923]

Cheers for your work, any chance you could also make a quick VR benchmark for DCS :-)

[@IgoByaGo]

I upgraded to a 4090, but was still having bad frame times on my quest 2 using openXR, so I upgraded to the 5800X3D and it fixed so much with DCS and MSFS. Good video.

[@br4713]

what was your previous cpu ? I have been testing every settings in the nvidia control pannel, in the game settings and also in virtual desktop streaming settings, now XPlane runs at 60 fps on the quest 2

[@IgoByaGo]

@@br4713 plain 5800X.

[@manic_miner]

I really appreciate you making this comparison video (a year ago). I've just got the Reverb G2 and have upgraded my 2 year old 5800X to the X3D based on your video, so thank you. Hopefully this will cure those bottleneck issues at more complex and busy airports that the 5800X just cannot process quick enough.

[@dswan8733]

How is the upgrade for you?

[@manic_miner]

@@dswan8733 I haven't noticed a massive improvement but I imagine that everything helps!

[@br4713]

@@manic_miner that's what I was thinking too, thanks

[@citizenblue]

I'm trying to get my hands on this to replace my 3700x. I figure it'll help stretch my AM4 build as long as possible, especially for VR

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

Its a brilliant final chip for the AM4 platform and should see you out for a while

[@citizenblue]

@@VirtualRealityPilot Are temps an issue? And is a 240mm aio sufficient?

[@Tom--Ace]

For anyone on the am4 platform already, it's a great upgrade. For anyone building new, it's perplexing - it's fast, but am4 is old and about to end. And with the Intel 13th gen looking to double cache, much of the benefit could be eroded. Let's hope am5 lasts as long as am4 did!

[@FlybyFabio]

Thank you for this detailed breakdown of the X3D. It looks to be an excellent choice. My present system is based on a 9700K o/c 4.8Ghz with GTX1080, and VR is OK at mediocre settings until you get to built up areas similar to where you were flying. The worst offender, however, is Fly Tampa Las Vegas. I fly 50:50 GA under VR (Quest II) and airliners on 2D, and I’m looking to build a new system. Clarkson might shout “Horsepower!” and opt for a 5900X, but would the 5800X3D with its larger cache still be a better choice?

[@awemowe2830]

"but would the 5800X3D with its larger cache still be a better choice?" Yes, definitely. But tbh I would wait for the new AMD or even Intel CPU's around the corner. No one really knows what the plan is, but now that the 5800X3D is real, it would be suicide to release something that isn't better.

[@ismaelsoto9507]

@@awemowe2830 Well Zen 4 is just slightly better on average than Zen 3 3D V-Cache and it still has an edge on simulator games. The real improvement will come with Zen 4 3D V-Cache in Q1 2023.

[@AdriMul]

Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

Glad I could help!

[@MixologistMilo]

I’ve bought this cpu on sale after this video, thanks for the consistent great content on VR MSFS over time! 👍✊

[@uacyber]

Great video. Thinking about upgrading to 5800x3D from 3800X since no reason for mb upgrade. I don't use VR, was wondering what would be the improvements moving into this cpu. There seems to be no comprehensive msfs review for this cpu for non vr use. Like to see how it handles with the pmdg 737 and fenix a320 in a complex airport.

[@rakon8496]

Thank you. I don't have VR, yet your comparison was really helpful anyways. I have the 5800x with an OC applied and not too satisfied with it... it's nice to see that they make progress on hardware. I think i will wait another year before replacing the 5800x, maybe the optimisation with DX12 will help quite a bit more. Running my system with DX12 now for some weeks with good results, yet it's not bringing much performance/fps boost to the table because they invest the gains from DX12 in higher LOD's. Pretty sure we will see improvements, even the RAM speeds in the next years should help quite a bit. DLSS will probably not help at all cpu-wise... THANKS! 💙☀

[@Cannabinova]

You should be looking to get the reproduction ratio below 50%. I can see the X3D is around 2-4% better on reproduction ratio.

[@protonb6090]

would love to know if your CL14 is making a difference too - rather than more regular CL18 3600

[@maddawgzzzz]

Im running cl14 3600mhz with the 5800x3d and a 4080. WHen I swapped from my cl18 ram I noticed a few more frames but best of all 1% lows were 10fps higher and the frame rate was much smoother. Ram speed is very important with ryzen.

[@mystic8260]

Interesting testing. thank you. HOw would you see the 5800x3d compare to a 5900x, especially as you can find the 5900x at around 80 - 100 euros cheaper than the 5800x 3d? Also, I'm considering upgrading my original HTC Vive and I'm split between the Index and the HP .... I've read plenty reviews but which one would you recommend?

[@K0nst4nt1n96]

I want to know too. I have a 3700x which is to bad for msfs. Its unplayable with constant stutters.

[@mystic8260]

@@K0nst4nt1n96 from a 3700x, i would certainly go for the 5800x3d, if your motherboard supports it.

[@Itwillblend]

I have just purchased 5800X3D along side 6900XT... I hope that it will do good in VR.

[@simontillman3463]

Let us know, as I have a 5800X and a 6900XT and got fed up with the stutters in VR, just ordered a 5800X3D as I have heard good things.

[@Itwillblend]

@@simontillman3463 generally it doesnt feel great in terms of details though oculus. However performance is very smooth. In pretty much all of the games. Normal games are set to extreme as default.

[@ji3200]

@@Itwillblend im getting Pimax Crystal with rtx 4090. I have old i7 5600k cpu, which cpu is my best option for all types of vr games? I heard amd gonna have 7000 v cache cpu next year but not sure which one to get. Thanks

[@Im_MarkS]

Isn’t the framerate linked to the quality of the server your flying on ? A busy server or complex scenery means more calculations have to be made is what i thought

[@dmand1111]

Nice video thank you. This should be a large improvement for me. My 5800x3d just arrived yesterday. I am upgrading from a 8700k. Should pair nicely with my 6900xt. I hope I can get my memory to run at advertised speeds. I have no clue how to do that with a am4 build

[@paranikumarlpk]

Hey dude, did u installed ur 5800x3d ? How's the performance compared to 8700k ?

[@Verse_John3_16]

@@paranikumarlpk i also have 5800x3d. i replaced my ryzen 5 3600. 3600 was good but caused alot of stutter in games and bad 1 percent lows. 5800x3d no stutter and avg fps as well as 1 percent lows are far superior. i can now sit back and relax with my gaming as before i would be frustrated with so much stutter fps suddenly dropping when a lot was happening. 5800x3d handles everything so far and doesnt drop in busy over populated areas in games. i know 3600 isnt 8700k but since you didnt get a reply i thought it may be of interest to you

[@paranikumarlpk]

@@Verse_John3_16 Thanks bro . 3600 is almost similar to 8700k in performance since I won't overclock it and I run single channel memory . I thought to get 12700 non k but I'm leaning towards 5800x3d even tho ryzen 7000 around the corner but there is no solid details whether 7000 comes with 3d cache and it's pricing .

[@Mayhem6633]

Thanks for the analysis as I'm having this conversation right now on the MSFS forums. It's difficult to quantify stuttering improvements watching the information you presented. I think stuttering can be measured by comparing the frame-to-frame frametime variations and also comparing the 1% low fps measurements. You can get those values using a capture program like CapFrameX. I'd be interested to see if those charts could quantify the improvement you're seeing.

[@zututooutlook1414]

Thank you for this comparison!!

[@treloarw]

The definitive answer to "what cpu should I buy for best MSFS performance" is ryzen X3D. 5800X3D on zen 3 or the new 7000 series zen 4 options that are literally weeks away from release at this point. Sure, we haven't seen independent benchmarks for zen 4 X3D yet. But The only real question is "how much better will they be compared to the regular zen 4 X counterparts?"

[@DCS.1-1]

Question 1 Do you Play any DCS ? I have my order coming in this week, but I'm curious to see as I'm stuck away from my computer Question 2 What in the fresh hell is going on with that 90°c temp on the cpu I'll be honest, I own a 5800x & I thought this (5800x3D) was going to be some kind of Open beta testing that will not work very well. AMD just proved to everyone in the flight sim gang that there's some serious benefit to this type of architecture.

[@kognak6640]

5800X3D runs couple degrees hotter than 5800X despite using less power. Sandwiching silicon doesn't help with heat conducting, there's two layers on top of the core silicon. Thickness is same but uniform silicon is better conductor. But 5800X3D is tunable and probably better in undervolting compared to 5800X due higher quality silicon.

[@volaticusfilms6185]

Timing couldn't have been better, from my perspective. I am just discovering the potential benefits of the "3D" over its lesser counterpart, in my planned system. Yours is the first analysis I've seen talking about frame timings instead of just throwing a tonne of data on the screen. It's also the only one where you've tested ground and less frame-heavy environments, which is more realistic. Could anyone recommend a decent yet no-frills motherboard to house this? I had considered the Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2 but don't think it supports more than 3200 memory. Is there a close contender on price, that's well worth the price difference that can be recommended? Thank you

[@sluxi]

Unfortunately this isn't terribly insightful without total frametimes and with the stats we see on the screen only giving framerates with reprojection locked. The descriptions provided about how G2 works with no framerate lock are the most interesting thing here. VR benchmarking is a tricky business, I appreciate any efforts to do it and suggest testing a tool called FCAT VR for the next one.

[@benos4x4adventures49]

At this point of time... im running a i5 8400.... Video card: Nvidia Rtx 2070 But looking to change my cpu for Amd Ryzen 7 5800x3d with new motherboard . Ill see how my video card handles xplane12 or msfs... if not ill also change that soon with a 3080 or higher. My vr is HTC vive

[@JDSPonYT]

What software are you using to measure the frametimes and such?

[@agdgdgwngo]

This is quite exciting, seems AMD found a way to almost cheat by doing this. It's weird that just 64mb of extra cache has such a massive impact. I'm mostly intrigued to see if Zen 4 is faster than the x3D of if the cache is like a silver bullet for frame time. Apparently they're gonna give the Zen 4 chips the x3D treatment too

[@jointherevolution5577]

well the answer to this is in. Zen 4 is not faster than the 5800x3d in the sim.

[@WilliamDeanPlumbing]

waiting for that 5950X3D so I can order my Falcon northwest PC for DCS Apache module... oooooo.... yeess.

[@bluewater82]

Do you play DCS with the G2? Do you have any suggestions for me to improve my experience? I have a 10700k paired with a 3080 and I’m having an issue where when I’m getting low frame rates and stutters even with fpsVR showing that both my GPU and CPU are well under 90% usage.

[@wizard1701a]

I would highy suggest to look for openxr and DCS. I Did what Flight-Sim-Fan discribes kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHvUY4Capcdsf6s and finally DCS runs amazingly. And one important step. Kill your DCS-user-directory and start with complete new settings (attention to save Stick-Settings and own missions). I used a lot of different VR-Headsets and it seems to help starting with new settings. (my system: AMD 5900x, 32 GB 3200Mhz, nVidia 3080ti)

[@raickpavanelli]

Up

[@RADlOACTlVEMAN]

I play DCS and bought a Ryzen 7 5800x3d, you won't see much difference :-( . Better wait for the new graphics card generation like NVIDIA 4000 series or AMD. DCS in VR needs graphics power.

[@JAnx01]

I would love to know how it compares to the i5-13600K paired with DDR4.

[@nigaudlotovrbenchmarkandvi313]

HI,don't know what was your settings, but with my 4090 and a i7 8700k (could not use fps vr but only msi after burner as it is a flight simulator from the gamepass) My frametime is ridiculously low compared to yours. If you mind taking a look at my flightsim video settings in order to compare?

[@kropfati]

A 3080 ti card is not enough for New York, I'd like to see a test with a 4080/4090 card where the video card doesn't limit the performance.

[@aaroniter8163]

I'm comming from DCS: World VR. Does the general rule presented here regarding CPU-bottlenecking and CPU performance also apply to DCS?

[@FatterTony]

Thanks for the video, how does this compare with the 12900k? I built a flagship system and was still disappointed in DCS VR the 13900k is my likely upgrade as I already have the platform but am now considering x3d as I only care about vr

[@BeachClub_1]

If I were you I would wait for RTX 4000 before changing MB with 5800x3d - which will be outdated by 7900 x3d in a couple of months. 😉

[@AeroSmithyProductions]

Hi, I'm about to jump in at the deep end with MSFS using a Pico 4. As it looks like in the not too distant future performance is going to make a massive jump, I just want to build a pc to start me off without breaking the bank. Save that for the RTX5090 when its released. Would a 3090 with a 5800x3d cpu work well in MSFS in VR? As much as i would love a 4090 i can't justify the cost. Your advice would be greatly appreciated. Paul

[@jamesm568]

I went from a 3900XT to the 5800x3D and what a disappointment that was. As for VR it still kind of sucks on MSFS2020.

[@jojomojo3847]

dont bother mentioning your gpu, must be a reason...

[@jamesm568]

@@jojomojo3847 No, it's the CPU as the 5800x3D bottlenecks with the 3090 at times.

[@br4713]

@@jamesm568 check all your settings to see how it affects your framerate. This way I went from 25FPS to 60. Try also to determine if the bottleneck is the CPU or the GPU (depending of the setting you're changing). Running the simulator with all the settings in Ultra requires the best CPU and GPU so you'll have to lower the details if you want to have a good framerate.

[@jamesm568]

@@br4713 I found sliding the render resolution just slightly past 4K stabled out the 3090 where it constantly stays at 98 and 99%.

[@LeeWicksSphere]

Impossible to find videos for IL2 and the 5800x3D. I was wondering if there was any chance you have tested with this also? Hoping for gains on frame times in the game as my 5600x struggles in certain map conditions.

[@peterterwan9151]

may I ask what tool you use to measure the frametime?

[@DinkyDoos]

Just seen this video. Very interesting I’m wondering if I should swap my Ryzen 9 5900x for the 5800x3d. It seems like a good idea. What do you think?

[@BeachClub_1]

Thanks a lot for the detailed explanations. Will my conclusion be right, that you will have less stuttering with 5800x3d than with Alder Lake? Thanks

[@astreakaito5625]

Those temps dude, holy shit, what are you doing?

[@jeremyfarley423]

Ryzen 7 5800x, ram is 32g 4000, rtx 4090. But my sim feels and looks like im still running on my i7 7700k, 16g 3000, gtx1070. textures are blurry with words and numbers completely unreadable. Stutters. ripping and tearing when I move my head around. Half-Life Alyx maxxed out graphics plays perfect. What am I missing? Oh, 2D flight sim runs maxed no problem. Nice and beautiful.

[@jeremyfarley423]

Sorry to reply to myself, but I noticed ultimate settings turns terrain Level of Detail to 200. I reduced it to 90, Nvidia dlss mode to dlaa, made sure reflex low latency was on. reprojection mode is on, I just cant remember what I set it to. I set up some weather socked in rain and windy. I took the Dark Star to max altitude(275k) and back down. VR is best Ive experienced since I bought the game. Not sure why the textures were such poor resolution before, but its good now, not as good as a proper VR title, but I can read stuff now.

[@br4713]

@@jeremyfarley423 I also had problems with my Quest2 on XPlane. High resolution VR requires a lot of power, there's no other way than testing all graphics settings and see how it affects your framerate. It took me one day to test every setting, but now Xplane runs at 60pfs in VR, I'm not at the best graphics settings but it's clear and smooth

[@MrGilinnn]

It's very interesting to know if CPU help to reduce (jerkiness, slowing of fluidity) because even if GPU+CPU gives 50, 60, or 90 FPS on VR, more often MFSF generate this problem. Someone else have noticed this ? Is very big CPU as 13900k or 7950x3d can reduce or delete this imput lag?, because it's a really annoying on VR. Usualy, vsync solves this problem but there nothing helps.

[@Jan-1337]

Vsync and input lag are two different things. Not sure what you are talking about

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Wonderful video.

[@BehrouzSedigh]

at 1:00 Ryzen 5800X ==> Dropped frame : 14 Ryzen 5800X3D ==> Dropped frame : 61 Why ?

[@GamerDragonflyLP]

Anyone here having any experiences with 5700x3d in VR? Is there much of a difference?

[@tudeswadharma3598]

I've been using Ryzen 3600 paired with 3060ti on 1440p monitor. And I have seen the sim struggles to give smooth 30 FPS on the ground in heavy traffic airports such as Heathrow and Amsterdam so i had to put my LOD settings slightly below 100. Would it be better to upgrade to 5900x/5800X3D or its better to wait until DLSS arrives?

[@OCX600RR]

DLSS helps when you're GPU bound. We are mostly all CPU bound in this sim first, so the 5800X3D would bring the biggest gains

[@nakazonegamestreaming896]

I I have a 3070 + 5600X AND 16 gigas of ram to play sim racing in VR (99% Automobilista 2) should I stay or should I go?

[@tasercs]

What is the on-screen performance monitor that you use?

[@andrewharris2285]

What render scale is your OpenXR DEV tool set on during these tests?

[@ji3200]

Im getting Pimax Crystal and rtx 4090. I have old i7 5600k cpu, which cpu do you recommend for all types of vr games? Amd new 7000 or intel latest 13k cpu? Or should i wait for next year for amd 7000 v cache cpu? Thanks brother

[@scolariIRE]

just got a msi 3090 ti, have it paired with the R7 3800X. Seeing a lot of shudderings/shimmering in VR with the Quest2. Im pretty sure Im getting CPU bound, do you think upgrading to the 5800x3d would help with that?

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

The shimmering is likely due to the render resolution so might be worth trying to turn that up and over sample the vr display. Often the stuttering is due to photogrammetry being loaded in rather than pc performance - I find it’s worse some days than others

[@scolariIRE]

@@VirtualRealityPilot ok great thanks, ill try that out, if that does not work ill pick up the 5800x3d

[@scolariIRE]

The 5800x3d fixed my issue 😀

[@cloroxbleach1640]

best cpu for MSFS2020 ???

[@Callsigntitan]

What was the GPU card?

[@der60er]

so swap my 5600x to this beast would help with my reverb G2 in ACC ? (32GB 3600 RAM + 3080TI)

[@dioude6745]

Any reason you did not test anything without reprojection ?

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

all the tests with the Reverb G2 were done without reprojection, its far more difficult to display the results (albeit I do talk about them in the vid) as Steam's tools for tracking fps and frame timings are much better - there is a definite bump in performance of average FPS without reprojection

[@tringuyen7519]

MSFT flight simulator is still not working on Intel’s 12900K! If Intel doesn’t fix the problem soon, MSFT flight simulator won’t work on the 13900k either!

[@EV4530]

I'm interested in knowing how the 5800x3d would compare to my 5950x / 3090 / Varjo Aero. Would it be even worth going to the 5800x3d from my 5950x, if I'd primarily use it for flight Sim?

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

You would see approx the same improvement that I saw from the 5800x, more cores doesn't really help with MSFS and VR but the extra cache would.

[@leAroccoli]

Ist ist still going to be useful using a weaker GPU Like 2070 Super with the News 5800x3D? Iam Considerung Upgrading from Ryzen 5 2600. Using Oculus CV1

[@iwfro]

Hi, I’ve a x3d coupled with a 3090fe, all water cooled, but have been disappointed with the results. Could you share your MB settings ? The 3090 never gets above 73c but there’s clearly something else throttling performance

[@LupusAries]

What's your mainboard, your storage device and your ram type, speed rating, timings and size? I don't play MSFS, but DCS, Fslcon BMS and the IL-2s ( 1946, Great Battles and Cliffs of Dover and most sims need a well rounded system with no big bottlenecking.

[@user-to8eb2lf2p]

Do you thing ryzen 7 5800x3d is better than i7 12700k for reverb in msfs?? Thank you

[@rkwjunior2298]

How is the vs the 5950x and 7950x?

[@regperinwodge]

hi dude any chance you have a 7000x 3d yet? love to see this and dcs...

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

I’m holding out to see how the 7800x3d performs which is released in a few weeks - I’m going to pick one of these up just not sure which one yet.

[@yosixxx]

I couldn’t get MFS working with my 5800x3d without crashing on game launch. Xbox store app reviews of that game show many people having the same issue

[@drdelirious8899]

Its a microsoft store wait 10 months and it will be fixed😀

[@drdelirious8899]

*game

[@mich5528]

To all asking why not compare with 5900x: Well the 5800x is actually a slightly faster cpu for gaming than the 5900x. BTW Not for productivity work but it’s simgaming here. Unless for some rare games that are very efficient at multi core utilisation… but that is not the case for many sims like msfs2020 and DCS…. So the 5800x3d will be faster for these sims than the 5900x and what is most important besides higher fps…better consistency in frames rates so no big drops that really make the visuals stutter as the reviewer emphasised many times, which is very important for high res VR! AMD really made this 3D cpu for us gamers and VR simmers on the AM4 platform. It even brings ryzen to the gaming performance level of intel’s more expensive flagship model, the infamous 12900k and with less power consumption… thank you AMD and many thanks for the clear review!

[@diegolaporte4653]

Hello and the ryzen 9 7900x3d with 140mb cache would be a better option than the R7 7800 X3D ?

[@Jan-1337]

According to benchmarks, no

[@edward28051989]

One question: VR is safety for our Eyes?

[@chadef555]

Would you be able to provide comparison to 5900x and also in some other games e.g. population:one or laurcenauts? I am torn between buying 5900x Vs 5800x3d

[@Creep4EverMV588]

In the same situation right now

[@mich5528]

The 5800x is actually a faster cpu for gaming than the 5900x. Not for productivity. Unless the game is very efficient at multi core utilisation… but that is not the case for most sims like msfs2020 and DCS…. So the 5800x3d will be faster for these sims than the 5900x and what is most important besides higher fps…better consistency in frames rates so no big drops that really make the visuals stutter. AMD really made this 3D cpu for us gamers and simmers on the AM4 platform

[@htg97]

short answer?

[@Flapdr01]

Not with my weaksauce gpu...

[@jasonbighead]

I went From a 5600x to a 5800x3d, no improvement at all using a 4080 gpu.

[@Jan-1337]

What games did you test? You need to test this with cpu bottlenecked games

[@mirshia5248]

please test none sim vr games like half life alyx and whatnot i want to know if the fps boost is also there so i can decide if i should also go from 5600 to 5800 3d please please

[@Tom--Ace]

Where's the comparison to 12900k? Comparing to 5800x is pointless, the Intel 12th gen lineup provides a big boost over the 5800x too, which means buyers are no wiser as to whether or not they should invest in the ageing am4 platform and 5800x3d or spring for pricier Intel 12th gen

[@mich5528]

Fair point but… for AM4 platform owners, this upgrade is waaayyy more cheaper and power efficient too. And let’s be honest, buying a 12900k now with expensive DDR5 and Ryzen 7000 being launched in Q4, I would wait or go for the cheaper AM4 plus DDR4 ram platform still and if you are intel minded… 12700 is a winner on some many fronts but not for sims or VR ;)

[@lickrish3930]

Your cpu not the problem it's your GPU 30 series cannot handle VR

[@jointherevolution5577]

3090ti bottlenecks the cpu

[@severalkorveks138]

Thank you Exactly what I was looking for

[@FlybyFabio]

Thank you for this detailed breakdown of the X3D. It looks to be an excellent choice. My present system is based on a 9700K o/c 4.8Ghz with GTX1080, and VR is OK at mediocre settings until you get to built up areas similar to where you were flying. The worst offender, however, is Fly Tampa Las Vegas. I fly 50:50 GA under VR and airliners on 2D, and I’m looking to build a new system. Clarkson might shout “Horsepower!” and opt for a 5900X, but would the 5800X3D with its larger cache still be a better choice?

[@mich5528]

Yes, see my post higher up

[@FlybyFabio]

@@mich5528 Thank you, I found your reply and it answers the question so many are asking. The only consideration for those looking to build a system is that this feels like a “less is more” counter-intuitive option.

[@FlybyFabio]

@@mich5528 Thank you, I found your reply and it answers the question so many are asking. The only consideration for those looking to build a system is that this feels like a “less is more” counter-intuitive option.