Does THIS Make Your Nintendo Switch Games Look BETTER?!

[@RGT85]

Let me know what you think of the footage and if the mClassic something YOU are interested in!

[@zacri9434]

Burger

[@JuiceBox_0126]

Yes

[@aburamal]

Burger

[@Alteredmemory]

I got it for Warframe and the biggest difference was 1080p vs 720p & MClassic. Look at the planets from your ship. I had to look into why to set your system into 720 and it does more with the image.

[@MegaFinalRound]

Alteredmemory are you saying to set your switch to 720 in order for the mclassic to work better?

[@sherrilmason1195]

For a 100 dollars I will be waiting for the switch pro

[@NavyBluntChris]

Dont hold your breath....

[@Mud9]

If it was coming, it would be here by now..

[@vulpesamores1783]

yup. I've been pondering on modding my switch. so a switch pro could prevent me from messing something up haha.

[@PunxTV123]

lol, this is not sony...

[@javierescuella7838]

there is a switch pro its called alienware ufo

[@bobby3914]

I can see 100.00 less in my wallet then improved graphics lol

[@omegawario7479]

Damn $100 for this? You can get a new 2ds xl with Mario kart 7 from Walmart for the same price!

[@redscorpion9325]

OMEGA WARIO Yea I bought that Mario Kart7 2DS bundle two weeks ago

[@omegawario7479]

Red Scorpion same I just got home brew on mine today

[@fritzthedog4193]

Are they still on shelves omg i forgot about them getting discontinued

[@omegawario7479]

fritz the dog they are on sale at Walmart I think you’re better off ordering online though.

[@Maverick.D.]

Red Scorpion lol, same. Copped that f*cker.

[@Elias-ti4te]

If the game native resolution is below 1080p you have to set the switch to output 720p in order for the cable to have full quality samples to work with.

[@braddl9442]

BINGO

[@ner7215]

it's something often overlooked...

[@shockey6657]

Id get one if it was 39.99 or less.... but 100 bucks? Jeez come on

[@brianschroeder1546]

Tvs now a days have upscaling so yes seems like a waste of money to me.

[@rolan5948]

TV’s don’t remove jaggies like the Mclassic though. This is literally a MUST for Gamecube or wii content but for the switch it helps significantly with specific games like Bayonetta and Three Houses that have noticeable jaggies. A lot of people seem to be very misinformed about this product passing it off as a “gimmick” when it clearly isn’t. I can say all this because I actually have one

[@brianschroeder1546]

Ik it’s a lot more money but my av receiver does a damn fine job at upscaling also.

[@matt25675]

Mr that's just your opinion man how would one use this for the gamecube

[@kittychobit]

Mr that's just your opinion man so just say the product is for older systems, it’s advertised as if it’s built to be for the switch when it’s isn’t. If it’s only good for a few games on the switch it is gimmicky. Edit. Not to say it wasn’t built for other system but even on the selling page the switch is the first system you see(plus pictures). They know what they want to market this device for, some tv already upscale things with out the need for this.

[@ThickFutaMilk]

@@matt25675 Using an HDMI adapter before the mClassic.

[@Rowri88]

You must set the console setting to the game's original resolution to see real results. The company kept saying this and people still refuse to do so. Xenoblade chronicles looks awesome if you set the switch's resolution to 720p and let the mclassic do more processing. But the console shines with older systems like most people are saying

[@MegaFinalRound]

BotW is 900p. What setting do you use on mclassic?

[@Rowri88]

@@MegaFinalRound i used 720p, put in mind the mclassic upscales the image better than the switch itself. Although with 900p games i didnt notice much difference, except for really nice anti aliasing

[@ccdencc]

yeah i have a feeling he hasnt done that. this video before and after can hardly see a difference

[@mikevisby8744]

For some reason, I assumed the adapter connected to the TV end, not the switch end. That way the dock would look a bit cleaner.

[@msipandaify]

That's what I thought too

[@JonathanOber]

@DirtyJohnJones I think Eric has been 'hooking [it] up wrong' for many many years.

[@loop5720]

@DirtyJohnJones Really though?

[@loop5720]

@@JonathanOber *n o i c e*

[@thedreadeddrunkengamer2424]

One good thing about the mclassic is you can hook it up to an HDMI switcher...I have 7 systems hooked up to mine so if I think about it as paying a little more than $14 per system I don't feel too bad that I spent $99 on it. My PS3 seems to really shine with it. I've been playing GTA 4 again, and it looks muuuuuch better than when I played through it the 1st time

[@Frank-x1g]

I have 4 on one switch and feel it could have an impact. Do you use it on OG Xbox?

[@brettsiebenhaar]

Look at the taxi license plate at 9:55. The HDMI (original) is better than the mClassic. It is quite clear!

[@daeraloth1115]

"there was no post production done" Hey, we know who we're watching :)

[@finkz5674]

Depends. If your display uses a crappy upscaling method or algorithm, then the mClassic should show a more significant improvement. The non-hdr 4k TV I play my older games on has a really bad upscale algorithm, and older games look worse than they do on my nice movie-watching TV, which has a higher-end upscaler.

[@Corys1701]

I recently got an M classic too, Id agree the switch improvements are hit or miss, but when I hooked it up to my Dreamcast with the Akita box omg huge difference!!! I think that generation of consoles is where this device shines!

[@LegendarySkypenis]

Consoles that old.. using an emulator is more optimal.

[@ahmadkazan7994]

@@LegendarySkypenis what?I use emulators and sonic adventure 2 runs at 20 fps.

[@LegendarySkypenis]

@@ahmadkazan7994 I have a gaming type PC that I built.

[@SniperWolfMVM]

Dreamcast has USB??

[@RadimuxCisco]

Makes me wonder how well it works with the PS Classic.

[@kwok57]

Marseille recommends setting your switch to 720p and allowing the mclassic to upsacle to 1080p. I think if you had the switch set to 1080p and upscaled to 1440p, the value might be more apparent.

[@RadimuxCisco]

Plus record at 1440p. You won't see a difference in resolution if you don't record at a higher resolution. Not sure if it works, just saying.

[@OldkidLivegen]

@RGT 85: It's not how you are supposed to use the mClassic. You won't see any difference if you don't give this upscaler something to upscale. So, you have to set your Switch to output 720p docked and let the mClassic handle the upscaling. Then you will notice that this 1080p signal is better than the regular one. And it can also help to achieve better performance since the Switch has less pixels to push at any point in time.

[@ItsSamStone]

Honestly, it works great IMO for systems like PS3, Xbox 360, or even the Nintendo Switch. I use it when I am playing on my modded CFW PS3 or my Nintendo Switch. The best way to use it is to make sure to set your resolution to 720p... that way it can work it's magic and if set to 720p, it will actually upscale higher than 1080p - I can't remember the exact number but on my TV I see confirmation that it gets upscaled to like 1380xsomething or whatevs. I wish I could say the exact number... but I know it only does this when the image is set to 720p. When you let the MClassic do the majority of the "work" with it's AI upscaling, picture rendering, sharpening, and it's slight color saturation boost (deepens the contrast just enough to make things pop a little bit more) then it really truly is like a graphics upgrade IMO. If you have the money, then get it forsure. You can find a used one for cheaper... It's tough to tell from a KZbin video but in person on a non-compressed image feed coming straight from your console, it becomes a lot more apparent as to how much it actually does to improve the way things look. Now, I wouldn't really use it on a PS4/Pro, Xbox One, Xbox Series, or a PS5... I don't think it would do much good. You could try it? I might someday for kicks and grins lol... but for older systems or the Switch, I think it's pretty awesome. Pair it with a super good HDMI cable with an OLED TV or something, and you should be really happy. Even alone on your basic flat screen TV, it will look great! I am happy with my purchase no doubt!

[@JesterPezz]

You didn’t get what this was made for, it does it’s best work with a 480p input. If you leave the switch at the highest resolution it’s basically going to pass it thru. 480p scales up to 1440p retaining 60fps if the game supports that frame rate allowing your switch to not work as hard but give you the higher resolution. Best example to use is a wii-u set to 480p, what happens afterwards is magical.

[@samtagg8754]

I thought it only upgraded 4x the original resolution?

[@richardbarth918]

It upscales one level. So 480 would upscale to 720, 720 to 1080p 1080 p to 1440 and 1440 to 4k. It will not upscale 480 to 1080p or 4k. Most newer tvs offer upscaling one level higher which makes this pointless for the switch.

[@matt25675]

Can you explain like I’m 5

[@MarseilleInc]

@@richardbarth918 This statement is not accurate. The mClassic will upscale 480p, 576p, 720p, and 1080p videogames up to 1440p on supported monitors. If not, it will go to 1080p, or the highest supported resolution on the TV. For film and video content, you'll get 4K.

[@hat8918]

I own it for the Switch and I agree.. I put all my games at 720p in the Switch settings, and let the mClassic do the work... My TV is 1440p compatible and it up scales everything to 1440p... and it looks stunning. If mine broke today, I'd hop on Amazon and buy another one. I even thought about buying a 2nd one just to have for my other consoles, without having to switch cables... It's a great buy if you know what you are doing

[@zach-etek]

I use an mClassic on my 65” and it’s great, but on my 36” the difference is not very noticeable. IMO: at $100 it’s definitely a luxury item. Nice to have and great as a gift, but if you think $100 is too much for a few less jags, don’t worry about it.

[@liamhayes9544]

I personally thought the grass on sonic 2 while moving didn't blur the darker and lighter shads of green like it did with the regular cable, could help mostly with helping not to get a headache but thats about it lol

[@twilighttiger2368]

The Mclassic is a bit pricey at $99, but the fact that it works with almost all consoles (even all the way back to the Gamecube with the adapter that comes with the Mclassic) makes it more than worth it to me, especially for when I wanna replay some of my old Gamecube and Wii games with improved visual quality on my HDTV, and I've also heard it works really well for a lot of Nintendo Switch games too. Already put in my order for it, I can't wait for it to arrive :D

[@tpolarbeart]

I use a seiki u vision hdmi up scaling cable and I see a huge difference with the switch when playing on a 120" projector

[@GamerDan89]

Can you go there more in detail? Whag about input delay? I love to olay Smash Bros on my HD29H, but I don't wanna have noticeable more delay

[@quietprofessional3608]

Keep flexing 💪🏽

[@tpolarbeart]

@@GamerDan89 I don't notice any more delay. I feel like the switch has pretty bad input delay as it is but I don't feel a difference. What I notice is it feels like everything is slightly more in focus without it everything looks slightly foggy. And it's smart about which colors it chooses to turn up the saturation. The image looks a bit brighter and more colorful. Maybe saying a huge difference isn't the best adjective but it makes a difference on a large screen that I noticed.

[@juliandestroyer8308]

Nice dr stone, can’t wait for season 2

[@TonyTyga90]

Literally bought a cable from this comment. It’s like half the price of the dock on amazon. Shipping now

[@thomasrider3895]

If you have a Sony TV thats newer you can put Reality Creation around 70 and put the TV in game mode. It vastly improves lower resolution video games and game mode will push colors a little more. Its also super easy to turn on and off and see an instant difference.

[@Benacious86]

In my opinion, the main reason people would buy this is if you have a 4K TV that doesn't natively upscale upscale. I don't think the device is trying to market that it will enhance your graphics. Rather, the major benefits are up-scaling to modern resolution and offering enhanced anti-aliasing. That being said, I don't see the value with a $100 price point. If this were $60 (the cost of a standard game), I'd likely make the investment.

[@jonathanmatos714]

It does make a difference not a huge one, but it does make a difference... Make sure the Switch resolution is set to 720p and scale from there to either 1080p or 1440p (If your TV or monitor supports it) ... I’m playing Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition scaling from 720p to 1080p on my 4K Sony X900F 55 and few people here in my house see a difference... a $100 difference?? if you have the extra money to spend maybe, but if you don’t and need games, go for the games. There’s videos on KZbin comparing a few games if you want to see for yourself.

[@_Red_Mage_]

I am inclined to believe that they had to make the mClassic "too big to fit" and require the dongle after they fleshed out most of the design. They probably underestimated the amount of heat it produced, which in turn transfers to the console and had to retro fit the design with the dongle. Or I could be way off, so who knows.

[@jedimaster12100]

As others have stated this works so much better in retroconsoles such with HDMI adapters of plug ins such as the Gamecube, Dreamcast, and PS2. I do use it on the Switch, PS3, and Xbox 360 in 720p mode but it has mixed results. I still think it's worth it especially for retro games.

[@VidyaBros1]

A friend got me this device for my birthday 3 months ago. I use it on every console when I play any game. Especially N64 with the hd adapter for the N64 from Eon. They make good products. Combining both of those devices make N64 games look great.

[@wfhqufbuiqwb]

I personally can't see the difference, but I'm happy that you enjoy it.

[@VidyaBros1]

@@wfhqufbuiqwb Not everybody can at first glance. You gotta know what to look at when pressing the buttons on it to see the difference. It cleans the picture up and makes it look nicer. Especially for older games.

[@VidyaBros1]

@Repo man Thank you. He also got me GameCube joycons.

[@marconihimself]

Market your product at the switch crowd surely helps sales, but a device like that really works its magic on consoles such as the wii and the gamecube.

[@Oceanandskylinevidss]

Dont forget ps3, 360 and WiiU. works good.

[@ahmadkazan7994]

It works on the dreamcast too

[@luciousthomas6141]

RGT and all of you up here need to read this! I see so many you tubers posting videos and using this device incorrectly on the Switch. Games like Doom, Wolf 2, Xenoblade 1 and 2, that run natively in 720p you are supposed to set your Switch to 720p and let the mclassic do the upscaling for you. It is a better upscale than your Switch or your TV for that matter. But games that run in 900p or higher like Mario Odyssey and Dragonball Fighterz you leave the Switch in 1080p. It will also upscale games and run them in 2K if you have a monitor or tv that supports that resolution. I have been running tests on this device for the past nine months. I was an early backer and I ended up getting 1 for about 70 bucks. If you are hard headed and just want to keep running everything set to 1080p on your Switch then you won’t see the results you are desiring and you will get frustrated and ask yourself why did I waste my money on this stupid device. All because you didn’t follow simple directions. Once I understood this then Doom looked freaking amazing on the Switch! Xenoblade Definitive and 2 which were blurry now look more like how the creator’s envisioned them look instead of that blurry mess that they look like when running them normally On the Switch in 1080p. Look if you want the best possible visuals for the Switch in docked mode then you will follow these directions. If you really don’t care about graphics much and you are satisfied with how the graphics look on the Switch then you don’t need to worry about it. Lastly if you are looking at this video on KZbin you will not get a clear picture at what this device can do from this compressed video. Not at all!

[@FireMrshlBill]

I'm hard headed and just leave the Switch at 720p output for everything. My TV handles 1440p really well and the games look great, relatively I mean.

[@austingaines788]

Two things are major for it to work optimal. Main thing is set switch output to 720p that way it doesn't interact with doc upscaler. 2 is a PC monitor but it's not mandatory. I get amazing results

[@braddl9442]

Yeah almost everyone that reviews this never bothers to look up the Marseilles guide for optimal settings they put on on YT.

[@ernestgomez84]

A few things, the switch (on the mclassic) actually toggles between THREE settings, as shown on the box, not hidden deep in some user manual, I find that the swtich (nintendo) actully works better on the "retro mode". Its milage will vary from game to game, some games like Zelda link to the past and BotW look way better. I will agree the size of your tv should play a factor. On my 55 inch the difference is very noticable but on my computer monitor not as much. I actually recommend you connect the adapter by the tv, not the switch (it will need some adapters but this way lets you use the usb power of the tv if the tv has one). It works through an hdmi splitter as well. I would recommend you try and see the difference between the settings on some other games. As far as "making the same adjustments" on the tv" is highly inaccurate. First off, the finagling would be annoying, and the changes for more vibrant color can deeply effect the colors of shadows. Last, in Beat ups review of the Xenoblad Chronicles there is a great example of what it can do, I wonder what setting he has his Mclassic on. I have it and while what you say here about the device I would agree with for higher res systems like the ps5 and xbox one, as in the difference is minimal, for the switch and more retro consoles it is a difference maker. Although, even in those games the mileage will differ, try paper Mario games with, as in the 64 or gamecube, I would love to see a more detailed comparison with the mclassic modes.

[@Oboewan]

I pre-ordered the mClassic. I’ve had it plugged into my Switch for over a year now. It’s definitely helped games look and play a little better. For example, in Xenoblade Chronicles, field items appear a little further away than without.

[@Blakegrimis1990]

I use one and it does what it's suppose too. Astral chain, Mario Odyssey, & Pokemon sword are the main games I've tried with it and it does exactly what its made for. It's not super great but it fixes the jagged lines and makes them straight. I just keep my setting on automatic instead of always 1080p under my switches system settings.

[@xenoneo]

I got the MClassic to play Skyward Sword with better visuals on the WiiU. The main thing you need to know to use it properly, is that it alters the image based on the resolution output. Playing Skyward Sword on the WiiU, with the system settings on 1080p did next to nothing, however if you set the system resolution to 480p (the actual resolution of the game) it makes a vast difference. So, be sure to lower the system resolution to match what the resolution of a game actually is to see the best results. The upscaling and effects are directly related to the signal the MClassic receives. Unfortunately, the Switch does not have an option for 900p to match the actual resolution of Breath of the Wild, but lowering it to 700p might give better results than using it with 1080p. You should revisit your testing of this with the method I've described if you want to see how useful the MClassic can be.

[@McGreish]

This! My switch Docked is set to 720p.

[@hiawa23]

I just plugged this into my Switch to clean up the shimmering jaggies in Mario 64 for the Mario 3D Classic Collection and WOW👀👀, not only did it clean up the visuals everything is much sharper. This device is awesome for the Switch.

[@GomerJ]

I think they are marketing the Switch to get some extra sales and appeal outside the retro crowd, but honestly, it's really meant for older consoles, where it does work some magic. Not worth it for the Switch alone, but if you'll get use out of it for older consoles, I guess it wouldn't hurt plugging it into your Switch too as a side use.

[@josephchaparro1037]

I myself can't speak for the Switch because I still don't have one but for Retro Consoles or stuff like the PS3 and Wii-U it is a Godsend device and delivers a true enhancement If you have a system from Analogue like the Mega SG or the Super NT it makes them look even better.

[@Terror0619]

What about xenoblade chronicles definitive edition. You should of showed games that run below 720p even docked. Xenoblade dips down all the way to 540p with its variable resolution and framerate. That game might see the most improvement and smooth out the jagged edges.

[@nikoregenerator]

dude you have to set the 720p games to 720p resolution on the switch display config or you won't see a difference

[@braddl9442]

yeah its a faulty review.

[@redwidow1358]

Well, no, see, if you set the Switch to 720, then it only upscales to 1080. The point was to test it going from 1080 to 1440. You don't HAVE to set it to 720, it's just recommended for a better 1080 signal.

[@nikoregenerator]

@@redwidow1358 then the mcable won't be able to do its work since its selling point is softening pixels

[@darrentg6]

@@redwidow1358 Marseille themselves and every other review talk about how if a game is native 720p then the mCable/mClassic NEED to work with that to properly anti-alias the image. If the Switch upscales it first, it screws it all up and the difference is WAY less noticeable. Watch Digital Foundry's proper review of the mCable, because this review is misinformation TRASH. I've owned the mCable for 2 years now, and have used it across a ton of games of varying resolutions, and it absolutely needs to work with the resolution closest to the game's native resolution for best results. Lots of Switch games are native 720p docked, so this is a great cable for Switch.

[@DigiPen92]

I'm kinda wondered what if Nintendo saw this unofficial Nintendo graphics adapter product and figured out to make it better for anyone wanted better graphics?

[@Kudluck]

I would try it out, hooking the Mclassic to the TV and run old consoles to it through an automatic switch, with a framemeister in between if needed.

[@TheThaneSkin]

Got this during its fundraiser for $70 and I keep it attached to my dock at all times, works great and you can tell the difference on most games

[@C-Murph]

Use it on the retro consoles. Do a Gamecube video please.

[@redwidow1358]

Good lord, no. Use a hacked Wii U to run GameCube games, then use the MClassic on that.

[@seargeantfirstclass]

Look at how dirty his dock is 2:57 **barf**

[@EZshocks]

Once you try it with GC, DC, and Wii games on the Wii U it makes a pretty big difference.

[@TheAngelCorps2814]

I own the Mcable, and don't have the Mclassic yet. That said, I can't wait to get it for a way better boost in graphics. The Nintendo Dock upscales, the Mcable upscales, and then with the Mclassic sprinkled in... Well, to say I'm excited is a understatement. Looking into other compatible tech to help with my Super-Switch if anyone has any ideas. Please feel free to reply to this comment and let me know:)

[@nanoskee8270]

Metroid dread looks awesome with the m classic

[@lukeutterback5978]

I have one and I honestly hadn’t considered using it for my switch. I bought it for my HDMI modded N64 and it makes those games look way better. I might have to try it on my switch and see if I like it.

[@TSWaves1]

I have one too. I connected it to my HDMI splitter and it works fine on all the devices it uses. You could try that too I guess.

[@adambennett08330]

There is an actual difference when using this in the Witcher 3, but you have to mess with in-game settings to notice. i also use monster cables instead of the stock one the switch comes with for faster transfer rates and it actually helps. i dont have this m classic, but switchup has a review for it and shows the best settings for it

[@bowisfurious]

I have it and def see some difference, but the best difference i see is actually through my NES and atari 2600 putting the mclassic on the 3rd setting (the retro mode), i have those two consoles running through a retrotink2 then going through a hdmi 5slot switcher with the mclassic coming out of the end of the switcher, so all consoles r getting that, even made my neo geo mini look much better running it through the retro mode which allows you to accually put the neo geo mini into a 4:3 ratio

[@braddl9442]

Yes this works. A lot of nintendo First party games are so well done the most you get is a slightly cleaner image. But a lot of 2nd party or indie games can get real cleaned up thanks to it. Or games that were downgraded ports get a nice boost. xenoblade 1 and 2 get a real nice clean up and the blurry look goes away. You really needed to try this on a wider range of games. Breath of the wild gets a nice clean up with it as well. Also most TVs dont support 4k or you need a 4k compatible gable to get the best results you should set the switch to 720p and get a very cleaned up 1080p signal. It usually looks a lot better setting your switch to 720p and just getting a constant 1080p then dealing with dynamic resolutions of from 900p going all over the place.

[@mistereagleman]

I actually backed the kickstarter for this and got one. The difference was barely visible; I tried it on my Wii U download of Mario Galaxy though, and I could definitely make out a slight difference. I have a feeling that these would work wonders for huge displays at conventions and whatnot though, but as it stands I wouldn't really invest in it if you expect it to really make a visible difference. Also, I'd really like to see what it looks like hooked up to the mCable!

[@kimmyksbro3116]

From their website The mClassic graphics processor enhances every pixel on the fly with no lag time. It will up-scale gameplay up to 1440p60 on supported monitors. 4K movie upscaling

[@rainZSlayer]

mClassic looks great on larger TVs. There's a noticeable difference in games like Astral Chain with it on and off and it also sharpens up images on the PSVR coming from a regular PS4 console :) It is expensive though.

[@djd-cepticon7215]

It works great on the Wii with the Hyperkin cable. But for any console 720p and up, you’re not really getting your money’s worth. RGT I think you need to do a part 2 on this with your retro consoles. You’ll have a better idea of where the m classic really shines.

[@FireMrshlBill]

I disagree. I like it for bumping my Switch from 720p to 1440p on my 4k tv. I do turn it off for some games on my PS3 on my older 1080p tv because it does crush darker colors, but still use it for stuff like PStv (720p) and Wii games on my WiiU (set to 480p). Even have a weaker Ryzen APU only PC on the same HDMI switch with those older consoles and like setting games to 720p on that and having it upscale/AA for 1080p.

[@ValkyrieRetro]

Please make a video about the cable too! I love your channel RGT85

[@Kradtwilight]

It depends on the game to me. When playing astral chain, this did make it look a bit nicer. On other games that aren't as graphic intensive, It can make it a bit harder for me to read text in the game.

[@Max-ui7yf]

I got one of these recently and I honestly don't think it was worth the 100 bucks, especially not for more modern consoles. I do find it works best on older consoles like for example the Gamecube, and when combined with an HDMI adapter like the Carby I feel it makes a decent difference though even then I don't think it's worth the asking price. It seemed to make an okay difference on the PS3 as well, though you need to set the console's resolution to 720p otherwise it doesn't seem to do much (if anything). I've also noticed no picture (just a black screen) when it comes to PS1 and PS2 Classics on the PS3. I haven't figured out what causes that so it could be something I'm doing wrong, I just know that it is because of the mClassic since I get a picture if I remove it. That doesn't mean it may not be worth it for someone else though, it's just that for me the differences aren't worth $100. I guess in the end, it will all come down to personal preference and if the differences are worth the cost.

[@creativetitle6193]

purchased it and it's better than what I saw in this video, like in breath of the wild and doom and such.

[@robbodwell8767]

You should have gone into the Switch settings and lock the games into 720p

[@braddl9442]

It makes a lot of difference on a lot of games when you do this.

[@DEsArcade]

I bought one and in my opinion the MClassic works better on games using polygons rather than pixels. You can see a good enough improvement from consoles such as Sega's Dreamcast and Saturn. But it doesnt do so well on 8 -16 bit consoles / Mini's. To give an example, the difference in picture quality is going from component to HDMI. Castlevania Lords of Shadows 2 on the PS3 showed sharper, darker images which looked great. At 100.00 the price is a bit steep but still worth it.

[@cerealswimming4309]

if the adapter was meant for 4k upscaling i think it would have been interesting to see but it was tested at 1080p here... so i dunno. i think these adapters are niche and like many pointed out. better for the type of audience that play on older consoles. i did see a nice difference on n64 but nothing mind blowing. at 34.99 i would buy it. but doesnt seem worth it.

[@allxmike8202]

Mario yawning during your 1st example pretty much summarizes this video

[@MGTEKNS]

I have a MCable and it’s night and day. Especially games like Xenoblades Chronicles 2 that need anti-aliasing. Sharpness is also noticeable but does not make a worlds difference.

[@Matt.Wilson.]

I have this and honestly the best place to use this is on a Wii U playing Wii games with the system resolution set 480p. It does a great job with AA and then its upscaler is better than the Wii U. The key to this device on any console is to set the console to render the games at original render size, if not you will get a weird output that won’t look any better.

[@redwidow1358]

Hack your Wii U and play GameCube games on it. I bet the MClassic will help a good bit with those.

[@johnodaz1273]

Nice video RGT 85 👍. The Marseille mClassic looks a very neat Product, Cleans Up and Clears Up the Graphics, makes them abit Smoother n Smarter aswell but for the Price I think I'll live with the difference without it. Definitely interested in seeing the Comparison between the mClassic n mCable tho RGT 85 :-).

[@jayros]

In the other hand, it's a huge difference to watch this channel at 1080p (like this video), compared with the usual 720p that is normally used for the rest of the content.

[@Pete-vz5uj]

For me Switch isn't about the graphics. However it wouldn't hurt if they were better. Especially for third party games. However I am still impressed by how good Alien Isolation looks on Switch.

[@Pete-vz5uj]

However

[@kevinkite3418]

Nice comparison. I've seen better results in other channels, that's why I'm a little confused if this is worth or not. Did you test the standard signal without the MClassic pluged or you just turned it off? Maybe it's still filtering the image even without the upscaling. Anyway, thank you very much for this comparison!

[@kylekermgard]

But how does this compare to a typical upscaler in a 4k TV?

[@Zetheek]

It has a bigger difference on cetrian games. Mario kart, Fire emblem. Also looks a lot better if you put it on a 144hz monitor. I have one don't think it was worth the £100 I paid but bored during lockdown.

[@ActionJaxonH]

And in Witcher 3, Geralt’s hair had tons of jaggies with out the M cable. Can definitely see the hair smoothed over with it.

[@Cjkory]

I wonder what the Switch Resolution was set to? From what I have read in reviews, default settings (Automatic, which for most is 1080p) will see slight changes, but it is recommended to manually set the Switch Resolution to 720p to see the best overall quality. I believe in general with the adapter and cables, it is recommended to set the console resolution to 1 setting lower than max.

[@badlatency9979]

That is correct. Forcing the console resolution to 720p also helps the mClassic work better on those games that output at mid resolutions like 900p since it doesn't process those well. Forcing those games to 720p makes the mClassic actually work properly.

[@MisterPezz82]

Mclassic plus a eon gchd is a good combo for GameCube.

[@redwidow1358]

Honestly just hack a Wii U and run GameCube games on that. Boom. Free HDMI port, no insanely expensive Eon adapter required.

[@MisterPezz82]

@@redwidow1358 nah I tried both, wii u Nintendont is better on the regular wii if you want to go down that road,

[@TSWaves1]

I own this thing and I think it's great. It's not a huge upgrade but it's worth it to me. Been using it for over a year now.

[@crimzanku1158]

Got the Mclassic specifically for the Dreamcast, and let me tell u running vga to the Mclassic and the old girl has never looked better. Everything is nice crisp and clear. Admittedly the antialiasing improvement is good but don't expect Razer straight edges. It can only do so much with a 480p image and is really dependent on the game. Evolution has very clean edges to begin with and the Mclassic really smoothes it out. Grandia 2 which at times can have some very jaggy edges u can see how it only does so much. Over all its a great product and paring it with a OSSC or Retro Tink 2X Pro is awesome on the 480 consoles. Just make sure to stay away from composite upscaling u end up with a bloby mess, go with svideo or component for best results. Ps. The Retro Tink 2X Pro can handle only upto 480/576i no progressive scan support for those resolution.

[@MrGonz801]

I know Woods used the M Cable in his Xenoblade review and the difference seemed night and day. Maybe the games you chose just aren't the ones targeted

[@brittany16950]

DUDE. This came out like a year ago!! Where’ve you been?!?! (But I am glad you made this video and I enjoyed it none the less!)

[@xliedxfunx]

The only difference I notice : Sonic .. 30fps since it was 60fps on sega genesis but maybe the Elgato was not allowing 60fps as seen at 03:28 But yeah that upscaler is just not a big changer at all imho. It does work but the diminishing returns are so low for such a price. Of course it's still better than nothing, the product makes sense if you're really picky on these improvements.

[@TheXev]

This device was made more to be a better 4k upscaler, so I would be trying it out on a 4k TV. 1080p footage can't really do it justice.

[@ericmeiring2512]

I play with both as mcable and a mclassic on my switch. Crowd funded the classic for 65 I think and got 3 cables from amazon on a buy 2 get one end free sale. I play on a 55 inch 4k tv so for me it notice it alot on all the systems. They do upscale to 4k 60fps if you have 4k yuv 4.2.0 tv most modern are yuv 4.4.4. I posted for someone to try both in another video and they sayed the sharpness was to much. You can turn it down on tv.... the anti-alising effect does stack with them both or if you use 2 cables inline with a female to female adapter. One thing people also dont seem to notice is the cables ( haven't tasted on classic but I'm sure does) enhances lighting. When I was playing warframe on the plains of eidolon on one X it enhanced godrays made them more noticeable. When I modded skyrim I had to unmod lighting mods because the cables made the Ray's too potent. I recommend them for people that have bigger displays. Playing starlink on switch with 2 of the products looks as good as playing on ps4 pro with 1 ( minus the weaker graphic textures of some things like water).

[@ONIXG5MER2015]

The device upscales to 2k and 4k resolution but you have to keep in that the monitor or tv have to be able to display those resolutions.

[@howdypeeps6656]

I have the Mclassic, and in my opinion, it works best with GameCube and the eon GCHD, the original Xbox with component cables through an ossc, and PS2 games running on backwards compatibility PS3 set to output 480p. With those settings, use the Mclassic in retro mode, and it cleans up the image substantially on those systems while upscaling the image to 1080p. It’s fantastic for those systems....Nintendo Switch not so much

[@Keith2XS]

There is a device I use for my projector called Darbeevison video enhancer. It works great for 720p and 1080p but does not upscale to 4K. It’s pricier but gives a much better picture plus it allows you to tweak the settings for the device. All Switch owners should own one!

[@badlatency9979]

It upscales to 1440p pretty well though which by marketing speak is 4k even if it isn't actually 4k.

[@CharidemosPapageorgiou]

I've had one since November, I'd say its worth it for the switch if you have games that have a blurry low resolution like xenoblade chronicles 2, spryo or games with not the greatest graphics like pokemon sword and shield.

[@braddl9442]

Yeah he did not use games that really show what it can do. A lot of games that do no better then 900p look better if you lock the switch to 720p and let the mclassic upscale them.

[@L4nc3_4_l0t]

I got the mClassic when they did the crowdfunding for it so the price was at *~75$* making it a bit more affordable :) My conclusion: it does look a good bit better (btw texture sharpness can NOT be increased by TV settings so that's anti-aliasing and sharpness done by the device) but the results vary on the game that's being played. The most obvious are usually detail textures in games that have them (Skyrim, Doom... especially in *Sinking City!* ) or Anti aliasing in everything 3D as wells as upscaled resolution (using a *4k* 50" TV makes the differences more pronounced compared to *1080P* I guess). *PS: you CAN hide the device by putting it at the OTHER end of the hdmi cable (the TV side) you DON'T have to stick it into the console end for it to work AND if the TV has a free USB port you can use that to power the mClassic as well.* Would I buy it again at full price? considering that my gaming PC is sitting next to the Switch i guess yes (even if it is just to NOT make the Switch look too far behind the PC) but only because I use my Switch in docked mode quite a lot.

[@djd-cepticon7215]

I crowdfunded too. Worth it for retro consoles and no point using this on current gen.

[@S.Casebow]

I've got one, it's not worth buying for newer consoles but it does clean up the 360, PS3 and original Xbox with the pound cable a good bit. I backed it on Kickstarter and am happy with the discount I paid, I probably couldn't justify $100 though

[@stug5041]

Would love to see this with the PS3/360 gen and see if it makes a difference

[@Mud9]

The games I have noticed this thing helps the most (from my testing), is zelda links awakening and bloodborne. Those games really lack resolution and AA.

[@conrad5342]

Is Sonic really looking correctly? I don't know the game well enough to know, if the flashing ball with feet at 07:00 is a power-up or an artefact.

[@ActionJaxonH]

At 10:07 just look at the jaggies on Mario’s globe, his shoe line, the grey bumper of the tax cab. The difference is there if you know to actually look for AA and not all this other crazy nonsense like colors and stuff.

[@gamercatsz5441]

Jaxon Holden lol if you Need to be an expert to notice the improvement, its not worth it.

[@Ellierienna]

@@gamercatsz5441 You don't have to be an expert to have eyes

[@damekoveloz8033]

@RGT85 it upscales to 1440p and is great for titles lacking in anti aliasing like Link's awakening.

[@moandaindesigns]

I would suggest testing on your Genesis with the retrotink2X in the mix.

[@ActionJaxonH]

The m classic is best for the SSAA anti aliasing. Games like Fire Emblem with the super jagged edges get smoothed over a ton. Games that already have AA won’t really show much difference. Actual TRUE comparisons show a massive difference in jagged edges in Zelda and Mario Kart. And Fire Emblem, I can personally attest, looks better. Don’t buy it for anything else. Buy it for the anti aliasing for Switch games that don’t have it.

[@EJHR420]

Doom got an update that upgraded the switch to output 900p docked. It was a little over a year ago so maybe check that out?

[@corynagel9450]

I just started thinking about this when you video popped up. Very interested to see a comparison for the cable as well. Thanks for the great content, RGT!

[@klosezhang78]

Are you able to cut the side by yourself? I am curious if there is anything inside

[@GameOnRadio1]

Now what I wanna see is the M classic or cable used with a modded over clocked switch. I think that would show a true difference.

[@draynged7869]

Hiding the dongle means you would need to take the back off the switch and or turn it around to access the toggle on the dongle!