Yo yo! I definitely feel you on the gamer before boxer issue with the games and how it promotes exploit metas over the sim like players. It’s really too bad the developers of Undisputed just refused to listen to the real players and add some mechanics that allow more ways to punish exploiters. What you mention about the line between sim and cheese because I always liken it along a continuum from avoidance and running to in your face aggression. Everything in between is a dance to essentially hit and not get hit better than the next. So it’s possible to be a pretty good boxer type in say Undisputed but not highly competitive as the skill ceiling is too low so people can just lead body uppercut their way to victory as there is no punishment options nor better punches.
@LUAN_JAGUAR9 ай бұрын
I bet the lazy EA would just take UFC 5's engine, remove all sort of grappling/ground game/kicks/knees/elbows etc, add a few rings and some irrelevant boxers while leaving out so many relevant ones and just sell it as the new Fight Night game hahah :D and they would add even more goofy stuff to the game, you know, like all those colorful vanity items, fortnite dancing emotes and microtransations etc, to pander to the casual kids :)
@MrBrezzie209 ай бұрын
I said this same shit!! Ufc boxing!!
@roberthughes68109 ай бұрын
Every time I play somebody that actually tries to box its a wonder because I got over 1000 matches on FNC and probably 10 or 11 great fights that I thoroughly enjoyed
@FightNightsFinest9 ай бұрын
Yeah when you run into another sim player it reminds you how great the game can be.
@roberthughes68109 ай бұрын
@@FightNightsFinest only to be reminded how broken it is in the next matchup
@Shobal229 ай бұрын
Truest statement
@Tazzyjeff6219 ай бұрын
Brother, that’s why I show so much optimism about Undisputed. Because following up on FN hype got annoying. I take FN news like I take Laker news: if it ain’t from woj or Jeanie I DONT BELIEVE IT! Whenever EA decide to announce a FN game I’ll be excited.
@LXDarkSniper9 ай бұрын
9:30 This happens a lot more than ppl think. 😂 As far as on the topic of the video, EA cant keep fight night dead forever will they? Id like to think it has to come back at some point. 13 years is far too long
@issacmariscal88103 ай бұрын
If undisputed does well on console release it might put some pressure on ea or at least get their attention maybe decide to compete
@PunchPerfectPlayer9 ай бұрын
I don’t believe shit until EA themselves confirm it
@firstlast-ns2qo9 ай бұрын
If ea makes a new boxing game that’s anything like their last ufc games we are done for
@FightNightsFinest9 ай бұрын
it's ea its always gonna be some type of crap attached to it. I would not be surprised.
@firstlast-ns2qo9 ай бұрын
@@FightNightsFinest for sure buddy even fight night champion was more fluid than any of these last trashy ufc games
@RedNoseGETEM9 ай бұрын
I can count on 1 hand absolute legit players who box and make it look easy. Majority of people have been throwing 2 punches for the last decade. They don't care about exploring the game in all it has to offer
@ArachnidSoul9 ай бұрын
People want to win before they want to emulate the sport. That's very true in combat sports games, like you said. It's sad. How to cheese the game and find the meta is what too many people are concerned with. In my head when I play combat sports games I always say "death before dishonor". I'd rather lose in a sim way that makes sense, and is true to the IRL sport, and do some cheap nonsense and win. How can you even be happy and feel good about yourself after cheap wins? Again, it's just sad.
@Airinas968 ай бұрын
I couldn’t agree more. Going by OWC players, everyone and their grandmother is at least 6ft with 80” reach…
@HMBL_TECH9 ай бұрын
Nothing trumps the sweaty comeback! Especially against a spammer lol! This made me think about coming out of retirement for 2 secs 🧐 lol I’m deff not expecting a new Fight Night to drop anytime soon & even if they did, I don’t think it’d be good seeing how EA has been dropping the ball lately. Gonna keep pulling for SCI to take their time before they drop Undisputed on console. Good vid bro 💪🏾
@LUAN_JAGUAR9 ай бұрын
Even if its true, I dont think its worth any hype for. Because it most likely not gonna be any good, i mean nothing like the good old Fight Night games. its probably gonna be a shell of what it once was, just like how UFC 5 is compared to good old UFC Undisputed 3 or how current FIFA is compared to FIFA 11-14
@FightNightsFinest9 ай бұрын
Yeah people will pick it up and put it down just as quickly
@Tazzyjeff6219 ай бұрын
In addition, I like your argument about gamer vs sim. I don’t play much rank on undisputed (losing to a ghost punch just ruin the experience lol), but seeing it when I play/watch FNC/Undisputed is annoying to see.
@cjwilder26969 ай бұрын
I'm still amazed on how technically sound a boxer you are on this game you I have learned alot by watching your videos throughout the years awesome fighter.
@FightNightsFinest9 ай бұрын
I was certainly shaky this video especially from mid range. I was getting pieced up its very rare for me to land under 40% or under my opponent. Not my proudest performance
@nath3599 ай бұрын
a new fightnight would be good for boxing but if you seen what they did with ufc 5 i would not be expecting much
@TopRankReid9 ай бұрын
Personally I think I got lucky because I came across your fightnight content before any other E combat sports content. So I got the best of actually learning how to play the game and how to look out for the spam and cheese. If EA does release a new FN I would expect us to have the same issues with players with no integrity but we would expierience a new game at least.
@FightNightsFinest9 ай бұрын
Yeah hopefully it would be better mechanically but we are still likely to get the same game without much changes
@TopRankReid9 ай бұрын
@@FightNightsFinest I agree
@pizzabox69559 ай бұрын
whats good FN?
@FightNightsFinest9 ай бұрын
Grinding and working as always
@Bigu43009 ай бұрын
Nailed it! Hiding behind the round wining SS upper by sprinkling it in..... Trash players "box" and justify SS upper which pretty much win any exchange when you go forward. less blatant than step back straights etc..... SS upper is way more subtle and you wont catch it unless you know. IMO only way to beat SS uppers is hide behind the Philly shell and out fight for 10 rounds.
@FightNightsFinest9 ай бұрын
Yeah they be thinking they are slick with that shit and are really wolves in sheep's clothing its actually sick work
@kisoshi8989 ай бұрын
Gamers before boxers. Certainly true. The game should credit boxing over spamming and modded characters that never lose stamina or strength even after throwing over 1000 punches. Quick rant 😆. Great Video. Will you do a video on the proper way to use a unconventional style boxer to obtain victories on owc? Alot of new Gamers are confused to how you can have a better percentage than your opponent in the majority of the scoring categories and a knockdown yet lose the decision.
@FightNightsFinest9 ай бұрын
I can but you are better off using brawler or inside fighter to give yourself a better chance.
@kisoshi8989 ай бұрын
@@FightNightsFinest I've learned that the hard way 😆. You are exactly right.
@KingWavesSpin9 ай бұрын
I hope so or at least a halfway decent boxing game because ufc ain’t it anymore
@FightNightsFinest9 ай бұрын
Hasn’t been since 3
@MrBeavis849 ай бұрын
The thought of a new Fight Night doesn't excite me because it's been so long and because EA is even worse as a company now than it was back then. I can imagine a bunch of micro transactions. I can also see the new game being more arcade than sim with cheesey exploit nonsense on the level of UFC 4 and 5
@KhIDp0is0N9 ай бұрын
This is clickbait for people with poor grammar 😭. I think the speculation videos always come from someone in EA dropping a nugget for the hype beasts.
@BOXING_LOUNGE9 ай бұрын
I disagree. Fn is posing a question not s statement...
@rainman1059 ай бұрын
EA is made of bums now they havent made a game with a soul since like a decade or longer
@FightNightsFinest9 ай бұрын
I don't play every ea game but I would imagine they probably do the same with every game. How you do one thing is how you do everything after all.
@wesleybullette59668 ай бұрын
Your argument is one sided from your standpoint gamers and people in the owc could careless if there is a new boxing game so the conversation about a new fight night aint for yall. I have a PS5 i don't like getting up and switching game disk so do you think im gonna plug up my PS3 just to play fight night. A new fight night game is more for the casual game player than the hardcore gamer.
@FightNightsFinest8 ай бұрын
Gamers hardcore spammers and casuals all care… As a hardcore gamer I want a game that is designed to be skilled based and a good representation of the sport. However, I’m not gonna milk the community for extra views on my channel or believe there is something new coming from baseless rumors and pointless speculation. That was my argument.