Does Victorinox And Nextool Stand A Chance Against The New Roxon Flex Companion?

[@timothycrawford2484]

I like roxon for the large scissors so personally I'd like to see the fold out scissors and the bit driver on one side and the 5 tools on the other.

[@SeanPaulPhoto]

Agreed!

[@Patriotfever]

Calling it what it is… the flex companion is effectively a toolbox for the flex to help carry long tools… What I struggle with is the scissors… the Scissors in the S802 and the KS2 along with some modularity made it “ROXON” but now it’s like most others…. I think I am going to get the Flex and the KS2E for now and get a companion to keep in my book bag as a “Tool Box”

[@blade9292]

@@Patriotfever the companion can loaded with tools that aren't in the other multitools.

[@DrewDragoon]

Nextool uses soft 3cr steel on almost all of their tools, that's why I don't want to buy them. The Roxon is using 4116 German stainless which is a step above. Obviously though the biggest comparison difference is the modularity, that's the main reason you buy this tool

[@bushforme]

I've been EDCin huntsman for years..I use the saw a LOT..why can't roxon or anyone else make a saw at least as good as victorinox?

[@gk.spinoza]

I have had the nextool e1 since it was released and once i added a $20 ¼inch bit converter/extension it was a rather impression little pocket Multitool.

[@hvacbudget8600]

It is prerty cool.

I wonder when we get the first STL files (for 3D printing) for a inline bit holder like the one the Victorinox Cybertool has. ^^ Victorinox will still stay strong in Europe because of the knife laws, the lack of distributors, higher prices and minimized options. But all that can be mitigated by Roxon in time.

[@garyk4017]

Thanks for the reminder about your 15% off code. I just ordered a Roxon Companion and added the long diamond file. With your coupon the two items together were only 50 cents more than the list price of the Companion alone. I probably have too many multi-tools already, but the this one is different enough from the others that it's worth having. I like gadgets, and this design certainly qualifies.

[@Remruata12Hnamte]

I'm not switching my multitool unless someone makes a tool that feels more premium than the spirit mx

[@johanesgo8096]

I think there is no fear for victorionox, they are a brand known all over the world, every child wants their folding knife, this is more for people who have stepped deep into the world of knives and multitools like us, the common man will take victorionox.. he won't even know what it is this

[@davidbendig961]

Victorinox is just flawless and can take abuse relatively well so I won't move away from it like...ever... but it makes you cry when you buy (still not over the price tag on that pocketclip).

[@peddypeoples941]

the clip was expensive but like 20+ years in the making:P a clip for a tool from 97, thats insane and for me well worth the pricetag, it will last forever.

[@blade9292]

I think roxon need to make those folding scissors as implements but also have other similar folding implements even if they take 2 slots. I also would love see a big tool with 2x6 slots, a sort of a big companion

[@scottshaw1310]

I would like a slim handle that would have one (possibly two) locking slots for delicate tasks.

[@iblackfeathers]

i think of victorinox as a sportscar with refined tools that fits my specific use cases while other multitools are more like utility trucks or pickup trucks ready to cover things victorinoxes can't like heavy duty pliers, etc. they aren't necessarily competing but complimenting each other when you find a right combo that works for you.

[@hvacbudget8600]

@@iblackfeathers Good analogy!!

[@andrewblakesley4202]

Not an issue for Victorinox. These tools just aren't in the same quality league.

[@markgrubbs1920]

Truth

[@blade9292]

@@andrewblakesley4202 I think it does because this tool solves a lot of problems and with the proper configuration can be carried everywhere. Also a lower price point is always something to consider.

[@afoolishman12]

My K2S elite is better than any of my SAK. Everything locks, everything is one hand deployable, d2 knife steel so it doesn’t need constant sharpening. Once I got one 3 people I know followed suit. I don’t see any big quality difference. But the K2S elite is only a year old. I do use it a lot though.

[@afoolishman12]

Forgot better scales, nice pocket clip. Honestly my SAK’s aren’t better in any way.

[@yasulong]

​@@afoolishman12 the one hand deployment is very underated, since none of the Victorinox's tools can be as easily access. Once you goes KS2E, you don't go back. And if it break? It's only half the price of a Vic anyway. Oh and the big scissor is non-negotiable for me, until the Companion finds a way to bring it back, I stick to my KS2E

[@peddypeoples941]

Cool having options but good luck beating victorinox, i have tools older than me that are in top notch condition. And even if there was something wrong with my soldat from 1939, their warranty will take care:)

[@hvacbudget8600]

@@peddypeoples941 True! Victorinox has great warranty!

[@johnkraemer5505]

Roxon is really taking things to the next level! I’m looking forward to getting a Roxon device and start playing around with in. From the 100,000 fort level, the Roxon devices are what I have been waiting for!

[@hvacbudget8600]

@@johnkraemer5505 They just seem to keep getting better!

[@robblincoln2152]

Victorinox is coming up with a modular solution. I am confident it will be more elegant than the Companion. But at what price?

[@bobdean150]

Jon Gadget confirmed a few months victorinox is working on a configurable tool … tbh i am waiting to see what that will be

[@ToolTechGeek]

wow

[@maxlvledc]

When did he say that??

[@renexwing1546]

Nope.

[@maxlvledc]

@renexwing1546 nope what? I've heard same thing

[@ToolTechGeek]

@@maxlvledc maybe they will engage in some kind of customization, basically like what some small 3rd party companies are already doing where people order specific scales & toolsets. This would not require any new equipment, just some different workflows similar to what is done with the limited edition stuff, just more custom. I hope I’m wrong and they go modular.

[@MrGoodtime1301]

So are you saying that tools from the roxon flex companion can interchange with tools from the roxon flex multi tool and vice versa?

[@hvacbudget8600]

@@MrGoodtime1301 Yes.

[@martinmadsen4162]

while i do have victorinox and enjoy them i will be getting the roxon for the modularity and the locking blade/tools the biggest drawback of the victorinox is the lack of a lock. i have had the misfortune of having tools and the blade close on my fingers by accident and i have more or less stopped useing them. also i really hope that roxon can get better distributors in europe or start sending international. i just dont trust like the allibabba store

[@WolfMimirMori]

Nextool has shown some kind of innovation so my guess is they can still keep along, they'll probably never surpass Roxon but they'll be close enough to be interesting. As for Victorinox? No, they've stopped being a multitool company and is now more of a fashion company. What they DO offer is still of high quality, but they've clearly stopped caring for the multitool side of things and will probably not make any attempt to innovate, so they'll simply become stale. Leatherman had stopped being a multitool company and is now instead a collectors company. Their interest is making exclusives with a high price tag and low supply. We've seen this route taken by many MANY American companies. Gerber lacks the quality and good design to be anywhere close. SOG is a knife company with the multitools as a side piece, they have the PowerPint and PowerAccess which does all their lifting on that end.

[@hvacbudget8600]

Jon Gadget had an interesting chat with Victorinox and apparantly new things are coming.

[@jimmylarge1148]

I grew up on gerber (and Randall knives) and bought the dual force a while back and too it back to the store the next day. Felt cheap. Bad design just felt cheap. Gerber being good is also gone. 😢

[@DrewDragoon]

@@hvacbudget8600 for the record I hope I'm wrong completely. A company doesn't do a 180 on their entire marketing strategy just because a KZbinr makes a complaint video. Them flying Jon out and speaking with him was just them placating him and the community. Mark my words, 3 years from now there will be no change.

[@ToolTechGeek]

@@hvacbudget8600Apparently they have two ways to make tools. If they set it up to the more automated mass production way victorinox can be epic.

[@Indyoliver1707]

Is there a non locking knife blade below 3 inches in length?

[@hvacbudget8600]

Every tool is locking but someone said you could mod it to not lock. I believe a smaller blade is coming out soon.

[@kathleensmith370]

The Roxon looks great, but in answer to you # question- I think they still have chance because so many of us already have them

[@hvacbudget8600]

@@kathleensmith370 I agree.

[@mbhaus6349]

If u compare it against vic it’s a instand loss

[@andrewfett142]

👍🏼

[@dualsportoutdoors]

Victorinox beats Nextool and Roxon all day every day. Even SOG and Gerber smoke those two

[@maxlvledc]

Gerber maybe...and only if we are talking Centerdrive. Even MP600 has had major qc issues. But SOG? In the last I would have agreed..but the modern crop of tools are terrible. Even the Powerpint which I like has some mediocre QC.

[@benhelder7525]

@@maxlvledc I agree with you on the SOG QC, ordered a powerpint and it was great, sharp out of the box, this made me order the poweraccess assist and it was a complete drama, tools would not be able to open one handed let alone flick out, I wanted to like it but ended up sending it back.