Does Vince McMahon Take Wrestling Fans For Granted?

[@denywijaya2367]

all i know that old man is in the stubborn mode

[@RDSArcade]

Deny Wijaya 24/7, bud.

[@denywijaya2367]

RDSArcade true true

[@SuperAttitudeera]

It's not really that he takes wrestling fans for granted... but WWE today probably has the most diverse audience in sports and entertainment history. You have the casual fans, meaning the ones who watch the weekly shows (only RAW and Smackdown) which consists of mostly children, their parents and grandparents on occasion. Then you have the die-hards, mostly adult, unmarried males, with their girlfriends, who appreciate the talents for their determination and hard work, regardless if they are big, small or lack some character development. Those fans will mostly still watch even if they vociferously disagree with the product WWE is putting out. Then you have the larger-than-life, all-about-the-characters fanbase. They are also known as the Russo appologists. You know, the ones who look at guys like Balor, Rollins, Owens, Zayn, Bryan, etc. and then proceed to call them ''Vanilla Midgets''. They cheer for the likes of Roman, Braun, Cena and Lesnar today and before that, they cheered for Undertaker, Stone Cold, The Rock, Triple H, Kane, Batista and guys like HBK, Y2J and Foley, who were midgets according to their height standard, but midgets with defined characters. They are the ones who absolutely don't care about 5-star matches, they care about promos, character development and the storylines, because they grew up on that stuff. And finally, you have the fans of the smaller guys, who grew up idolizing Bret Hart and HBK, then moved onto guys like Benoit, Eddie and Mysterio. Now they are fans of Rollins, Balor, Styles, Nakamura. They also like to watch other promotions as alternatives such as NJPW, ROH and Lucha Underground. They dislike people such as Reigns, Cena, Mahal, Orton, Sheamus, maybe even Braun to a small degree. Oh, yes and they are tired of Lesnar as champion. So it's a very diverse audience and it's just impossible to cater to all of these people's needs.

[@erikdelgado08]

Damn how much time it took to write this

[@SuperAttitudeera]

About 3 minutes if you must know. My thoughts work fast.

[@chocolatethunder-iy9wv]

SuperAttitudeera i'm on both sides lol. I like entertaining big guys but also entertaining small guys as well😁.

[@erikdelgado08]

chocolate thunder9172001 So you like all entertaining guys.

[@guess6635]

SuperAttitudeera wow.... what an amazing thought out comment. Good job

[@osaji922]

Is this a serious question? OF COURSE HE DOES! I mean are you kidding me?!?!?!

[@prowrestlingfan6305]

Osaji Obi He doesn’t give the fans what they want

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

If they were big sweaty men he wouldn't take them for granted.

[@eddykasili8131]

Boko no hero

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

Eddy Kasili I see you're a man of culture as well.

[@eddykasili8131]

TheAutistWhisperer himiko toga she is badass

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

Eddy Kasili She certainly is.

[@jqjames]

#VinceDisappear

[@shadowdio9512]

Do you mean disappear as in retire or do you mean die? 🤔

[@jqjames]

Shadow Dio 87. I will say this, until that old 🐐 either drops dead or retires, nothing will never change. This man is so out of touch with the product and the fans it's mind boggling. He just refuse change. It's proven that he only cares about making 💰 than making fans happy. Until he is gone, we are going to get the same constant formulaic garbage every week. This company right now will be better off if Vince is no longer have his cancerous hands on this product anymore. I hate to say that but it's FACT.

[@jqjames]

Wayne Bishop . Just speaking the truth bro.

[@denywijaya2367]

+JQ James nah you were talkin like you're directly involved in the business which is you're not

[@Xehanort10]

Stop calling wrestling "the business" as if you're part of it. You're not. You don't have to be directly involved in wrestling to criticise it.

[@trillville3503]

Vince: you're that Solo Creature guy right pal? Keep up the great work yeah!

[@tonware]

Vince only cares about the kids and making sure they stick around. Forget the hardcore fans who swear up and down the hate the product, but still buys the tickets, subscribes to the WWE Network, creates videos and podcast discussing his product etc. He knows they aren't going anywhere no matter how boring the show is. As long as he keeps signing indy talent for NXT (which is probably the only reason alot of us probably still watch) he keeps us satisfied.

[@Xehanort10]

And the only reason he cares about the kids is because they're gullible and their opinions are easy to control which appeals to a control freak like Vince who wants all the fans to like and cheer who he wants them to instead of who they want to.

[@merriemelodiesfan7425]

Vince McMahon acts like overgrown child with his stupid vision and ideas, and by the same token wrestling fans are as well. However, at least those wrestling fans have their heads screwed on right for the most part, unlike the old man.

[@denywijaya2367]

please check a certain post in the comment session, a dude said Vince had a bad childhood

[@denywijaya2367]

SP Brazy hey, do you know what happen to Roderick? i wonder if he's a part of the company now

[@merriemelodiesfan7425]

Deny Wijaya and SP Brazy So what? Half of us in the entire world have had bad childhoods. I mean, really, who cares about Vince's bad childhood?

[@denywijaya2367]

MerrieMelodies Fan no one, i think. was just telling you the truth

[@merriemelodiesfan7425]

SP Brazy I understand that, but I don't think Vince should be taking his anger out on people because of his bad childhood past. I reiterate: I don't feel sorry about Vince's bad childhood.

[@livingforgod7693]

Of course. He knows that despite WWE not being nearly as good as it used to be, lots of their fans will stay loyal for who knows why.

[@jesuszamora6949]

Then there's that. The only reason WWE "has a monopoly" is because a (thankfully dwindling) number of fanboy idiots won't give anyone else a chance.

[@dazzaMusic]

CM Punk said it perfectly “he’s a millionaire who should be a billionaire but he surrounds himself with douchebaggy yes men.”

[@robinrobin613]

dazzaburger Too bad he is a billionaire while Mr. Straight Edge is going to get his ass kicked again in the octagon

[@TheAazah]

he is a billionair...

[@dazzaMusic]

Just to make things clear “in the words of CM Punk”

[@TheAazah]

dazzaburger cm punk is a selfish cry baby and people respect him why? he bitches and complains he likes people feeling sorry for him but he won't admit to that. you cant respect someone like cm punk you honestly cant and if you do says alot about you. too many people feel cm punk was poor miss treated i mean i would feel sorry for someone who would get fired on their wedding day but he walked out. lol he quit before he was fired. i dont understand why he was pissed off.

[@robinrobin613]

Aaron joel Someone who had 434 days with the wwe title, two matches with the hollywood megastar the rock, one main eventing rr 2013, a wm match with the Undertaker and a summerslam match with brock lesnar and still decides to quit in wwe's most important time of the year doesn't deserve any respect. Especially bragging about how rich he is but still getting upset about not getting enough money for faking fights

[@mariachavez5018]

All I know is WWE will Never be a truly great Wrestling Company as long as McMahon is still in charge.

[@stephcurrytheg.o.a.t]

These wrestling fans don't even know what they want, so why would he listen to them?

[@بدرعماد-خ2ل]

Steph Curry The G.O.A.T Thank you!

[@RandalfElVikingo]

Steph Curry The G.O.A.T And sometimes they want shit like Balor vs Lesnar with Balor winning. Fans are stupid.

[@seth_rollins136]

Steph Curry The G.O.A.T exactly, the fans doesn't know who they really want on top and they complain 24/7, I'm not surprised that wwe doesn't listen to us.

[@merriemelodiesfan7425]

As a fan, I didn't become interested in professional wrestling to understand what benefits the wrestling business and what draws. I don't care. If I wanted to care about business, I'd go to community college to learn how to become an entrepreneur - which I am not even remotely interested in, might I add.

[@denywijaya2367]

+MerrieMelodies Fan the business comes first. how does WWE gonna pay the big names if they too focused on the other area? thx to that we can see the likes of AJ, Lesner and some other pro wrestling stars fight in the same ring

[@Pancake3225]

Yes. Didn’t need to even think about it.

[@whitezangetsu1590]

He always did.

[@andrewblanton5397]

I believe Vince would change stories for fans, and I assume he does. What I don't expect Vince to do is adjust stories for disrespectful fans that go to an event planning to chant "this is boring", or "this is awful". Independent wrestling is extremely accessible now online, and there are other promotions you can watch. If fans step up and support, like with the sold out Rhodes show, they will grow.

[@Xehanort10]

They don't go to arenas planning to chant that. They go expecting a good show then when it becomes obvious that WWE can't put on a good show to save their lives anymore that's when they start chanting stuff like that.

[@andrewblanton5397]

Xehanort10 There are many things I can criticize about the current product, and many things I can praise. I don't think it's fair to say they can't put on a good show.

[@Xehanort10]

When every Raw is "How can we try to manipulate the fans into liking and cheering Roman Reigns" it's safe to say they can't put on a good show.

[@cyranocrimson3835]

Lol... Seriously? Did the guy Dick Cheney shot IN THE FACE end up apologizing to HIM on TV? 🤔😂

[@jacquesteddyruxpin8843]

"Does Vince mcmahon take wrestling fans for granted"? Is this REALLY a serious fucking question?????

[@dkmenace1990]

So Solomonster admits that the Roman Reigns experiment is working? 😁

[@willhallmimistries]

Yes he's stubborn but the reason why is because he has no competition,such as during the Monday night wars. Vince wouldn't of pushed a superstar like he's doing with Roman reigns, because if he did, maybe WCW would still be in business. There are no alternatives. Yes, you have New Japan and roh, but they don't have the marketing, sponsors, and ability to travel worldwide, such as how WWE does. I really think that this All in event selling out maybe has caught Vince attention, and maybe it will send him a message that if there was an alternative, then WWE fans would jump ship quickly. But as long as he has a monopoly, and until maybe New Japan really starts to tour across the entire USA,then we are stuck with WWE and Roman reigns

[@jonahda0mega]

Ha vince took this post down last week

[@byronkennedy7203]

He's out of touch. Plus there's no real competition to push him.

[@AhmedMahmoud-sq7xg]

yes tbh and some wrestlers too i think that its become some trend

[@ThunderForce2000]

It’s odd how WWE makes so much money these days despite a lot less people watching the product then there were even ten years ago.

[@jesuszamora6949]

Even five years ago. And the numbers continue to fall. I think it just points to wrestling being a smaller and smaller part of what that company is. Not sure what the hell else they're doing, but the wrestling sure as hell isn't what's bringing them the money.

[@BlazeWright97]

He basically takes our money and push whoever he wants instead of fan favorites so yeah he does.

[@nemesis3168]

Vince and Triple h:oh look cm punk is the hottest guy the next austin stone cold all fans/hardcore fans can get behind then pull the plug on him and feed him to triple h all that momentum gone cm punk leaves on bad terms with the company...i think lack of stars and bad descison making is why wwe is in a slump all the stars they could been made were fed to cena or vince and hhh pull the plug on them.

[@RandalfElVikingo]

I'm not going to watch wrestling the next two months because The World Cup ;) At least you can enjoy one match per day.

[@officialsonic1]

he sure does, he a millionaire that should be a billionaire

[@tvgebt7869]

So the business is great but the product is abysmal.... 🤔

[@بدرعماد-خ2ل]

I wouldn't. Just look at SD last week. The fans talked about how Rusev needs to be pushed and how they're burying him yet the moment he got his win they all started to complain about it and how D.Bryan deserved it more! Thre fans don't know what they want and you want the chairman to make his desicion based on their opinions? The company won't last 3 weeks.

[@merriemelodiesfan7425]

بدر عماد To be fair, those fans probably aren't the same fans who are complaining about Daniel Bryan. The plain fact is that there is never going to be a meeting of minds with WWE (or anything in general).

[@merriemelodiesfan7425]

SP Brazy Because there is never a meeting of minds with anything subjective. For instance, some people prefer pizza over burgers and vice versa. Some prefer Pepsi over Coca-Cola and versa. Then there are some people who prefer waffles over pancakes and vice versa. I don't think there will ever be a situation in which people have the same opinions or ideas when it appertains to WWE unless it involves death.

[@merriemelodiesfan7425]

SP Brazy Nah. I don't think I'm entitled. I just think WWE is just too dumbed down these days.

[@merriemelodiesfan7425]

SP Brazy Fair enough. Personally, I think WWE is just shallow about everything creativity-wise because their primary concern is business and I truly believe that is the primary reason why everything is all over the place and the hardcore/passionate fanbase is very "entitled" as you described it. Besides, I doubt many people fell in love with professional wrestling to talk about business ethnics and of that nature.

[@TheWonder96]

Say "some" fans don't generalize us as one

[@NATIONALCOMMUNISM666]

if the fans ever where going to make there voice know now is the time I do not care if you are sports entertainment fans or if you are traditional nwa type fans if you liek russo or metlzer or if you like soft style or hard style america japan mexico or england girls in thongs or feminist shit if you do not speak now you will lose wresting to the borg forever.

[@ShaunTheCHB]

He cares about money. Not how he gets it.

[@jesuszamora6949]

Pretty much. We're headed to a point where the show's ratings are GOING to sink below a 2, probably within the next five years, and he's McMahon is still rolling in dough because he found a new set of marks - Wall Street investors - to work.

[@jonsnipe5484]

It's not like hhh makes it better

[@travisw3131]

Yes and No

[@merriemelodiesfan7425]

Aside from his profound impact on the business, why would anyone in their right mind want to support Vince McMahon today? He's a has-been. He is in his dotage trying to apply terrible, old-fashioned visions to modern audiences.

[@Xehanort10]

If I was Vince I'd rather put out a good product that made me even more money than I already had than be lazy and content putting out a shitty product just because it still made me money. As a businessman he should know that an actual good product would make more fans pay to see the shows and make him more money than he does now.

[@merriemelodiesfan7425]

Xehanort10 Exactly.

[@jindamahal8197]

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