Does Wuthering Waves have a Male Character Problem?

[@RateUpRadio]

It broke my heart to see people getting excited about a false rumour so I knew I had to make this video. Anyway: Which male character are you most hyped about?

[@badqualityfrog9367]

Bulante

[@AnimeWineAuntie]

Geshulin

[@Ikykwktlk]

Definitely Geshulin, man's simply too badass

[@frozenshade96]

Geshu Lin

[@Waiting4G3shuLin]

Geshu Lin. What a design!! hope they keep same English VA too - gorgeous voice which suits him perfectly

[@whiskeyearned1543]

"It's like they all get their clothes from the same person." I doubt there are many clothing merchants in Jinzhou. Also, regional styles are pretty homogenous in real life.

[@Accountthatexists]

Ok but I feel like that dosent excuse them all having a similar design........like if ur going to make designs based On a region, go FAR AND WIDE with the type of outfts

[@Kiddeath2]

I would agree but we’re eventually getting skins so that should fix the issue once those start dropping

[@elimgarak1127]

How could there be? There's barely any residences in this poorly thought out world.

[@petraryca]

@@Accountthatexists I mean yeah i agree, but at the same time, if jinzou start getting indian or japan or aztec outfit it will be strange, or maybe not. im not designer but at the same time idk what should make it different but still look same country

[@Accountthatexists]

@@petraryca ur so off the mark of what i mean🤦‍♀,,,,,,,theres so much types of chinese outfits they can do.....or just.....make a new one😮

[@leukos22]

I think the bigger problem is how they've been introducing new characters on the same patch that they release in. In other games, devs are eager to introduce characters 1-3 patches ahead of time even if they're locked to being NPCs at the time just to give something for players to look forward to in the future - Arknights and especially Blue Archive are masters of this approach. And with the characters we do have in Wuthering Waves, their involvement in the story is either forgettable (Taoqi??), absent (Calcharo), entirely self-contained (Zhezhi + XY) or the entire patch is about them including the explorable area (Jinhsi and Shorekeeper). The character involvement within the story and even events is too far skewed and needs a complete overhaul with how they approach their characters. They nailed down the gameplay, but for the average player they're not all that interested in the cool gameplay tech that their new waifu or husbando can do and only really care about their story moments and how cool they look. Ultimately, we need more hooks to get us excited about characters. I think that if you were to do a poll of the most wanted characters on launch it'd be an even tie between Camellya and Scar, so if you were to take social media's impression of Camellya *and* if Kuro nails down her patch quest - they have the recipe for one of their most profitable banners and the blueprint for what to do with future characters. The ideal would be to use Camellya's patch to introduce 1-2 more Black Shores members so that they keep this trend going forward.

[@RateUpRadio]

Well said! It's especially ineffective when characters like Youhu are introduced long enough to get a few lines and then disappear from the main story. PGR is much better at building up characters months in advance too.

[@HSMJose7]

i think u are completely right characters need to be introduced ahead of time to build the story around them and hype before they are released

[@aDifferentKind_ofHuman]

You need to give them that feedback NOW

[@Under_The_Water823]

@leukos22 well you are dumb😂😂. I just don't understand why people just don't have patience bro calcharo is from "New Federation" and in v2.0 rinasita is coming so wait for it. Up until this point every single character kuro released it's based on story that's why focus bro read the story. You are so clueless😂😂😂

[@rttundewie]

i completely agree, will add this to my next feedback

[@tildecorrera7697]

I can’t really talk on the male character situation because i am a certified man liker, but the Jello Jiggling is _so funny_ .I think one of the most egregious examples was at the beginning of the Black Shores quest when Shorekeeper appears on the beach, where her head head is cut off from the camera and you can literally see her, uhm, ‘wings’ going back and forth. It literally made me laugh out loud when i saw it

[@salinalee2613]

it's so juvenile. this is like Dead Or Alive 2 change the age to 99 for maximum jiggle (I'm a bit older lmfao) levels of foolishness. you really want to tell these players to grow tf up frfr. it's so embarrassing.

[@brandoncoutu430]

So here's some of my thoughts on the matter. 1. Yes I would like to see not only more male characters in the game but also further their involvement in the story. 1.0 was extremely rushed and i understand that. but Yuwanwu was one of the characters i fell in love with first. Then finding out he'd be in the story for about 15 seconds of screentime with 0 voicelines was bonafide kick to the teeth. That being said characters need build up and when you release them they're bound to be successful. I would say a solid 60-70% of players thirst so hard over Camellya is because of the intent of the charcater + role they've had so far. 2. I adore the direction they went with shorekeeper, a nice touching story to futher the rover's involvement and increase future speculation. What i hope doesn't happen is they start compromising on story elements to forward romantic relationships. Some girls like you, that's cool but i don't want the whole story to revolve around it either. 3. Male characters like scar will be implemented when the time is right. Like you said, for the PGR villains, we're probably going to hit a certain point in the story that acts like a climax before their release. I just hope we don't loose the psychotic personality of the onigiri man that we all know and love. They are doing good work and are headed in the right direction. that being said i hope they don't forget to slow down take a step back and examine the big picture from time to time to not loose the cohesion of the larger ideas they implement. Thank for the good video once again!

[@lune-3214]

Geshulin where art thou

[@siege_sensei]

Never, he's not coming because he's dead in the story..

[@DEEKPro]

​@@siege_senseiThat never stopped characters being playable. I'm sure he will be back somehow, if he ever was dead to begin with

[@XochiMictlan69]

​​@@siege_sensei i doubt they gave an npc so much screentime in the Jiyan story and the music video Specially when all the characters shown there are playable

[@Waiting4G3shuLin]

He's not necessarily dead... he just disappeared- body not found. I doubt they'd design a character so well and then not release him as playable. Plus - I did hear a rumour (leak) that in the Kuro files or something that his 'code' suggests he WILL be playable at some point. Guess Kuro just waiting for the right moment. Don't give up hope.

[@shkpotter9844]

@@siege_sensei he's dead just like tingyun lol

[@LuisFernando-rx1qp]

Man the jiggle I barely even notice, like I am always so immersed fighting everything in front of me that I barely noticed the physics of the game. Like Changli I don't notice this stuff at all because I am just burning everything down XDD

[@leukos22]

Yeah I can admit that it looks goofy but frankly speaking I'm either looking at the character's back as they face forward or I'm not even looking at my character and instead I'm looking at the big angry biker dude that is throwing his motorcycle at me.

[@LuisFernando-rx1qp]

@@leukos22 Yeah bro that's why I don't see a issue on it at all- because I barely notice or look at it XD

[@TinyyTato]

For real I barely noticed them until someone mentions it lol

[@alexzheng270]

@@LuisFernando-rx1qp Let's be honest, the only ones who notice it during gameplay are people that are constantly looking at them.

[@LuisFernando-rx1qp]

@@alexzheng270 I have to agree with you there XD

[@benaressu]

Can I mention how Calcharo is the most punished mf in this game? No main story relevancy, no companion story, no appearance at all in anything, is shit to play as, got powercreeped by Xiangli Yao in 2 patches, like ok I get it Toshiyuki Morikawa is (probably) an expensive va(comparing to cn, kr and en, also my fav va Douman fgo my beloved) but like come on man

[@nanaminn9256]

Literally bro he just appears randomly in the previous event and that's it😭 BRING JUSTICE TO MY MAN also i still main Calcharo cause i simply does not care about Xiangli Yao and i don't like his gameplay

[@benaressu]

​@nanaminn9256 agree, bring him justice fr, I hope just like what said in the video he will get involved in the story of the new area in the future!!

[@lia-zu9lj]

I saw the beta where his story was and he was talking to us and I cried because we didn't get to have his story and go on a date with him🥲😭I'm so disappointed he is my favorite character and he's so ostracized

[@zenn_5251]

@@nanaminn9256 his pronbably batman

[@benaressu]

​​@@lia-zu9lj daamn fr we were robbed😭😔

[@hijodelsoldeoriente]

Is the ratio good right now? - No. To the point that it's starting to affect world-building. But I know that they know this themselves so we shall see. "Are the designs good right now?" - Yeah. But like you said. More variety is better. I want to see more scifi-inclined designs than fantasy to be honest. Also different body models like maybe a sumo-type like grendel in warframe. "Is the writing good right now?" - Overall, still needs improvement. Black Shores has pacing issues. I didn't mind the slow and meandering first few acts but those also have issues. The Jinhsi one I think is the best. Well-paced and well-written. Black Shores is paced too fast for my taste. But so far, it has the best story-presentation. I like the focus on MC but they need to utilize their characters more other than the main one. They also need to fill the loopholes early on. For instance, when we reached Black Shores, the rover should've asked where Encore and Camellya are. Even a simple "they're busy". Is enough to solve that. Or better yet utilize aalto and encore more during the quest. Also, hot take: I think PGR's male character designs are really good cause they embody the yoji shinkawa-like tactical design which makes the most sense in PGR's world. Closest female construct is Vera garnet and Rosetta that shares this design philosophy. Hottest take. Lamia's design is too fantasy-ish for me. 😂 Please more constructive criticism videos like this! Let's not turn WuWa into another game full of toxic positivity.

[@sonjab.6852]

Imo its starting to affect immersion and world building for me too. Where are the men? Have they gone extinct??? lol. I would never play all male/all female games bcause I cant immerse myself in those so when in omni gachas its usually girlies doing bunch of stuff like in wuwa I am starting to lose interest tbh. Also what bothers me we dont really see any interactions between playable characters. And why is Rover always present? Like there should be stuff happening even without them. Imo if your gacha characters cant carry the story without mc always present, they are not very good characters... People hate when comparing hoyo games with wuwa but imo hoyo handles their characters way better and in more interesting way. Wuwa feels more like dating sim

[@stiflash]

Agree . On the lamia part, a lot of people were disappointed of her redesign when her playable frame was revealed, i'd recommend to check it if you haven't

[@kkj_-ry4kt]

I wish Lamia looked more robotic mermaid in her default skin

[@wholethedogsout880]

@@sonjab.6852 THISSSSS

[@wholethedogsout880]

@@abolfazlsh8260 your toxic positivity is gonna k word the game btw

[@anezuka2464]

I was legit surprised when people all over the internet was showing how much they all went p2w for Xiangli Yao and how much people loved his quest, not just his trailer and tbf on Pgr's part they also got a lot of shit for their male characters by a specific audience and since they're less likely to also be released, it also makes their designs less comparable to female characters as they have less varieties to even compare to the female characters. (I am still waiting for teasell, pls i want an androgynous playable man) All that aside I'm sure they'll make their male characters well, many are likely just mad that characters with no foreshadowing and relevance like Youhou are released before male characters. I do think male characters needs to release more though, since the arguement of 'male characters don't sell well' falls flat when Xiangli Yao was obviously well loved enough for so many people to break their f2p status. (there's also hsr male character sales that does really well but wuwa is in different genre so not sure if it counts) Plus there are still f2p or light spenders that likes women who needs a break and time to farm for future characters.

[@darweath]

Youhou got 1 mention in npc line same as lumi(previous name as dengdeng) both is in 1.0 btw

[@wildannugrahanurdinsyah2797]

Also the fact that most Kuro's female character are revealing more their skin and sexier to attract more male players who want fanservice waifu but they are not doing the same for male character just not fair The argument "male chars won't sell well" is weird to use when the dev themselves are not really treating the male characters like the same way they treat the female characters XY beat that anomaly for being the most hyped characters in 1.2 despite don't have any sexual fanservice them foreshadowing Zhezhi and her jello boba

[@sonjab.6852]

yep I broke my f2p status in Xiangli Yaos banner xD

[@wildannugrahanurdinsyah2797]

@@abolfazlsh8260 I dont talk about revenue I talked about the hype, many more welcomes XY than Zhezhi we can see more XY fanart than Zhezhi even Kuro promote XY so hard on JP, don't be so salty and assume too much talking about revenue XY and Zhezhi are low very low compared to previous patch since it's a filler patch and XY were given out free

[@meibirb9646]

@@wildannugrahanurdinsyah2797 they keep saying "male charas don't sell well" meanwhile those dudes from Love and Deepspace game even have CEO girlies on a chokehold.

[@Waiting4G3shuLin]

the ratio of males to females didn't bother me at first. But now kinda feeling a bit disappointed that there aren't more males. Hope a story line brings Geshu back... i'm dying to learn more about him

[@levelierlerias9925]

In my honest opinion, they really need to balance the female and male character ratio cause 17:7 is just not fair and how's Kuro actually want to gain profit from the husbando enjoyers if they barely have any reason for spending? Let alone feeling being mistreated (tbh this is my same hope on PGR). Also yeah I agree they really need to fix the "jello" because some female characters with over physic is just doesn't make any sense.

[@mismismism]

I can't lie, it did feel almost like a bait to me, especially since all the new females turned the female fan service up to 11 suddenly. It's a lot, I like male characters in general but also the fact that male characters just tend to look better to me because they don't force crazy physics or sexuality into them so they tend to just look cool. Like Zhezhi looks ridiculous to me, her chest looks like Stretch Armstrong, stretchy rubber. And just variety, after a certain point, the constant fan service female designs in gachas just gets so tired. I would not want them to suddenly make only male characters or get rid of fan service entirely, sexy characters have a place, but when it feels like 90% of the characters are suddenly just fan service females, it's off putting to me. And the "Males don't sell as well" argument a lot of people try and use. That is a self fulfilling prophecy, when males are so outnumbered and they focus so heavily on female fan service, that skews the playerbase to draw in and keep players that like female fan service, so if they drop a guy, yeah, he will sell less after months and months of them only catering to female fan service players. That argument always bothers me because it's not actually an equal comparison. Like a steak restaurant saying a vegan meal they put on the menu didn't sell as much as a steak when they advertise themselves as a steak house.

[@Soundwave1900]

This, both points. After camellya I'm just gonna save for males exclusively as I'm set in terms of meta for a long time. If none come - their loss, I used to be a paying customer.

[@mismismism]

@@Soundwave1900 That's been pretty much my stance too, I skipped Changli because the fan service is over the top to me. It doesn't match the character, same with Yinlin, she's actively trying to fly under the radar and not be noticed in her story but her design looks like that. And the game has really cool male characters too, I don't get the extreme pivot into female fan service right after Jiyan.

[@GaChuckYT]

TBF Camellya​s Fan service actually kinda fits her character where as I'll take an example from Genshin Raiden shogun is supposed to be a stoic ruthless leader but shes wearing very very short skirt kimono thing that's an example of bad fan service yae Miko aswell but I get where your coming from it do be over the top sometimes @@Soundwave1900

[@seraphoftheend5768]

@@mismismism It's not a pivot. It was planned. They wanted to bait the husbando mains first. Look at PGR if you want to see where WuWa's heading. 2 limited males per year.

[@mismismism]

@@seraphoftheend5768 It does feel like a bait. The launch cast was still mainly female but way more even and not much fan service either only to immediately dive head first into constant fan service. I hate that, it's hard to defend.

[@1braker]

Yeah I gotta agree on the jiggle being goofy lol. Especially on characters that don't even look like they're wearing loose clothing around the chest like Zhezhi. I'm not trying to take things away from people though so I say just add a physics slider so it's up to individual player choice if the bags jiggle like gravity applies to them or not.

[@wholethedogsout880]

yeah a physics slider or toggle

[@AratakiBullPowerSiddo1]

Thank you for shedding light into the matter. The lack of male characters is a big issue in this game and is actually counter-productive for it's income. A multi-gender gacha always brings in more money than a solo gender gacha. There's a reason why even MHY moved on from Honkai to Genshin and HSR being their primary games. Also, no matter how much people say otherwise, male characters sell. Even Love and Deepspace, a fully male gacha, has been competing with Genshin and HSR for the past few months, not to mention the fact that some of the most popular characters from Gachas are male characters, like Archer, Lancer, Gilgamesh, Zhongli, Siegfreid, etc. The current situation of Wuwa's created a narrative of false advertisment, which will slowly but surely stop the male lovers from playing the game and compel them to talk negatively about the female bias the game has with newcomers, online or IRL, resulting in a big income loss. Everybody loves waifus, but people also wanna play as cool and badass anime men too. 1 male for every 2 females is not gonna kill the game.

[@glebscheglov9291]

No matter what decision devs make - some income will be lost. It's the matter of what kills the game more - 2/1 ratio or 4-5/1 ratio.

[@danielw.2456]

I want more MEN men. Like i mean, big & wide, tall & ripped, burly & old with full beards, & scars all over. Maybe even a sumo gut. I love my cool & edgy pretty boy anime characters as much as the next guy but when it's done EVERY SINGLE TIME, it gets really old really fast. Yuanwu is close to what i want, but even he still feels pretty safe tbh.

[@MagisterialVoyager]

he's all covered too, lol, i need a more exposed men like in PGR. but maybe Kuro is just working on their footing since this game is only several months old. i believe in them.

[@danielw.2456]

@@MagisterialVoyager I'll believe in them too then.

[@doommaker4000]

​@@MagisterialVoyagerLIKE WHO? Noctis, noctis and noctis? They don't even show that much outside of skins

[@MagisterialVoyager]

@@doommaker4000 Well hey I’m down with men in speedo, but is everyone else ready? 😂😂😂

[@jrockharris2249]

This is so me

[@PY5RA]

I actually like that the characters look like they got most of their clothing from same/similar shops. Like, they definitely don't make their own clothes. Fashion trends should be big in the same region, with individual preference slapped on top.

[@Ikykwktlk]

I totally agree with you on the whole 'jello' thing! I mean, alright, that fan service stuff is every where and it does sell but... that's just too much

[@blueberry7478]

Really, take a look at Snow break and ZZZ and you will see WuWa as a saint 😂

[@venomfan9500]

@@blueberry7478wtf are you talking about? ZZZ physics are nowhere near as silly as wuwa

[@junkss69]

nah we love the jiggle

[@yuunarukami8622]

@@venomfan9500 see burnice, see jane, see caesar, see ellen, see zhu yuan and you say they not jello even on fight, because lets be real wuwa jello doesnt happen on fight because you are too focused on fight

[@Ikykwktlk]

@@junkss69 How so? And that's a genuine question. Personally, I'm not a fan of that stuff at all, but I do understand how such things can be appealing to others, but, when it's 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 'jelly' like? It fr just looks ridiculous and kinda silly

[@hongers9]

I'm a guy who usually prioritizes pulling for hot female characters but I'd prefer a more even split. I like having the variety in both my roster and the game world/story because I find that it makes me feel more immersed. I also realized that it's possible for me to enjoy male character designs (to the point I'll pull the limited 5 stars), but I just never played a gacha where I really liked the men until HSR. I think what you said about story involvement for the characters is super real too. I really like Aalto, but in general I don't even know why I should care about a lot of the dudes (with Calcharo being super egregious). Meanwhile in HSR I absolutely love Gepard and Welt who are both just standard banner characters, and even Yanqing who gets meme'd on gameplay-wise has a way bigger story presence than Lingyang. I will admit that the comparison isn't totally fair considering wuwa has been out for a lot less time, so I'm hoping some of this gets fixed with time. One last thing is that I think bringing in a wider audience is super duper valuable for my personal enjoyment of the game. Wider audience -> more players -> more content in general whether it's gameplay videos, guides, tier list reactions, general discussions, fanart, anything.

[@CombativeMedic]

As much as I like female characters, I'm waiting for more male characters too. I'd love to see designs on similar level to PGR, more recent example being S Watanabe.

[@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW]

i want wuwa wanshi so i can go broke

[@wholethedogsout880]

Could you make a video addressing the terrible Rover-centric writing? Like how every single character's entire world is Rover, they have zero lives outside of Rover, their relationships with other characters are rarely shown, and most often the female characters are the ones suffering from this Rover-centric writing. So many cringe, forced, fan-service moments despite the characters barely knowing Rover. I'd love to see more attention brought to this issue and explained thoroughly by someone with a platform. This copy and paste writing pattern with every character (especially the women) is getting very annoying and repetitive.

[@glebscheglov9291]

Lore wise Rover is literally a God who was send to sol-3 to do what they want. And so many hilarious arguments about Rover centric plot in 1.3. Ironic. Shorekeeper was created by Rover million years ago, and have enough time to develop feelings for them, especially because Rover made her fell feeling in the first place. And now all this people is bothered by Rover centric writing.

[@fiyibomiolabode]

@@glebscheglov9291where does it say that she was created a million years ago? This is what her story says in game: Perhaps the underground needs a sky as brilliant as the one above..." the Modulator mused, planning the future. As they reached out to activate the Tethys System, an enigmatic allure from a blue crystal beckoned them closer. The meeting of their frequencies triggered a resonance that shattered the crystal, releasing a surge of energy that burst forth like a nebula or a butterfly emerging from its chrysalis. The energy swirled and coalesced, taking the form of a young woman, who greeted the one who had awakened her.

[@glebscheglov9291]

@@fiyibomiolabode I waited for eons for you. Eon - million years

[@fiyibomiolabode]

@@glebscheglov9291 what if it was hyperbole? Also rover didn’t create shorekeeper, he found her

[@glebscheglov9291]

@@fiyibomiolabode thesys created shorekeeper - Rover helped develop her as Tethys admin, and consequently develop analog of feelings in her

[@NNiaN_]

My main frustration about kuro's marketing of male characters is how they do not treat male characters as equally as female characters in the aspect of marketing. Excluding the promotional content they provide which is decent enough, they don't give enough opportunity for male character fans to spend for them. In PGR, They don't release paid skins for male characters on their debut patches unlike the recent female S rank characters who get paid coatings on debut, there's no gacha skin for a male character yet. It felt like an insult when they released lucid dreamer wanshi but made SFX skins for ayla and no. 21 while it's wanshi who's the one supposed to debut and yet gets no paid skin. Moreover, he's free. What is there to spend on then? In wuwa, there's Jiyan and Xiangli Yao. Jiyan was the first banner to release, people had the resources to roll for him while they clear 1.0's game content. XY's story content and promo content gained him lots of positive reception and banner sales despite being given for free, but it was the fact that he was free that kept others from swiping their cards for him. It's almost like male characters are just there for female character fans' convenience to save up for the next female character banner. Come on man, is it not obvious enough that kuro does not see them enough as an opportunity to sell? It would not be right for kuro games or literally anyone to keep pushing that female characters sell better when they don't pour enough effort to make male characters sell. If kuro games truly wanted to cater to a wider audience, listens to feedback from a wider demographic, then they should be making efforts to be more impartial.

[@thefilipinoguy_wu]

Their clothes were made by the same person because they live in Huanglong 😂 See Blackshores' designs, they have variations.

[@wholethedogsout880]

exactly

[@Yasviele]

I think that what WuWa really needs is a glimpse into the future, where even siluetes could work and for this, I'm gonna do the forbidden thing... I will compare it to hoyo games *gasp* yes! because they did something right, remember how hyped everyone was when they suddenly dropped the Harbingers reunion? New characters left and right that might take years to appear in the story but it gives a good direction and what to expect and Zenless zone? they went beyond that, they showed not just the current characters but 15 more! First ever gatcha game to do this and on top of that, they showed 4 legendary ones that might be so far in the future most of us won't even play them. With Wuthering Waves, we have Scar and then... ? who knows, we know almost nothing about the enemy, the other nations or the story so of course we know 0 about what characters could come, so yeah we need a tease, not to the level of what ZZZ did but perhaps showing some direction

[@lia-zu9lj]

Oh my god this is what I always thought and I was saying I feel like there is something missing I need a video like Dainsleif video he talks about the regions and civilizations in the world of Teyvat where the characters of each civilization appear in the video Even the characters in in the game talk about the countries and civilizations that we will go to in the future. This makes it clear to the game where its story will go, but wuthering waves is so vague that we do not know whether we are on a planet or on one island On a planet ؟We don't even understand where we are. There is no suspense about the areas and civilizations we will enter in the future 😭🙏🏻

[@GAMEPRO24X]

did you know you can find danjin during the moonlight festival? and if you talk to her, its her first time meeting you. Danjin, just like Couch-Churro, is a day 1 character and alsop doesnt appear in the story canonically yet.

[@lilblkrose]

Couch Churru 😭😂😭

[@frostice961]

and i agree the jiggle physics in wuwa are weird as hell too. the best physics they did imo is for karenina scire and vera garnet. i wish they port it over to wuwa. but shorekeeper's jiggle physics on ult looks kinda nice tho. not very obvious unless you look into them specifically.

[@sammyashi]

The ridiculous jiggle is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If they fix it, people will start review bombing the game because of "censorship", if they don't, they'll keep looking ridiculous. Just look what happened with ZZZ's Nicole when they toned down her physics in CBT2, though most people don't care today since the current physics are what they saw on release. Unfortunately the """best""" thing to do for Kuro here is to just not tweak them. As for the rest, it will all depend on the company's preference and the players' reception, but seeing the current situation in PGR it appears that Kuro just enjoys designing female characters more (I doubt revenue is a concern since characters like Selena, Ayla, Alisa and now even Bianca were given for free). The problem is that they can't just alienate and dripfeed the part of the player base that's always been there since day one, but evidently they don't really care about it? In Wuwa it's an even bigger problem because it aims at a bigger audience to the point that it does feel like false advertising. I didn't notice it myself at first but the ratio right now is STAGGERING, it's really bad. Not to be a downer but I doubt things will get better. Not only for the direction they're taking with the characters (and DON'T say it's the same as PGR because it really, REALLY isn't) but because designing and developing characters takes a lot of time. The feedback people are giving today could apply to characters that are 3 years away from all we can know. The only thing we can do is give them the benefit of the doubt, but people aren't willing to wait too much. If a product doesn't satisfy them they'll leave, most times even heart-stricken because there's no live service action RPGs with male characters like Kuro makes them.

[@salinalee2613]

you say this but they changed scar's design after release. they can do it if they want to, imo.

[@ranoutofgoodusernames8394]

@@salinalee2613 And people complained about that as well. I remember seeing a yt short filled with comments complaining about it.

[@sammyashi]

@@salinalee2613 unfortunately that's another can of worms. Adjusting the jiggle physics would trigger an enormous reaction from *those* players, i've seen it lots of times and I can't even blame them too much because they're part of the target for these games. We don't know the real context behind Scar's change, but he was getting laughed at especially in CN. I'd assume it was an impulsive reaction from Kuro that just... betrayed whoever was looking forward to him, especially those that waited 2 years for the game. Even now, all the memes and fanart related to him still retain the onigiri, both Global and CN. I hope his playable design will have it back eventually, when Kuro realizes they have an actual audience they should pay attention to and not the opinions of those that maybe weren't even playing the game

[@kokomidanoporbeleza7558]

@@sammyashi you are so right! "those" type of players are so profitable in the gacha space and the wider audience is already used to it, i doubt it they will change anything

[@wholethedogsout880]

hsr and genshin dont have stupid ugly alien water balloon jello boob physics and yet they make BANK either way. nothing is stopping wuwa from removing the boob physics or fixing them. bffr. if they keep giving into a small vocal minority of incels and gooners that just shows theyre weak and pathetic as a company and theyre validating those imbeciles

[@twitzmixx8374]

The MF ratio is bad imo but the pattern will make it worse. 1 male > 2 female > 2 female > cycle - This is the pattern I'm getting and as someone who also prefers female characters, I can't fathom myself being a male orientied player playing this game if this continues. And even after looking at leaks, it seems it's not gonna be far off from this either. They didn't promise anything, but that doesn't change that the current ratio is bad. The pattern is basically 4:1 F:M ratio. I'd consider the current character designs good. Looking at all the limited characters, I'm pretty satisfied with most of them. I haven't had any icks personally.(Except for the jello physics. Which imo in order to fix is they need to release a sliding bar for physics intensity and make the physics consitent on all characters. This sounds like a joke, but there's really no other option that will satisfy both sides. I don't like it, but I know full well that a lot would prefer it that way.) I like the route for character design that Kuro is taking. Although there is definitely room for improvements. It's good but it can be better. Like iconic tier character designs. Main Quests - 6.5/10 Companion Quests - 8.5/10 Cutscenes - 9.5/10 Overall, outside of companion quests, I'm not really that interested in the story. The cutscenes are amazing yes, but currently the main story is just an a okay. There is a big potential for future patches, but currently it's just okay. I'm more interested in the companion stories.

[@twitzmixx8374]

Current pattern: Jiyan Yinlin Jinhsi Changli Zhezhi Xiangli Yao Shorekeeper Youhou Camellya Lumi

[@Prisma144]

I would like the rartio to be more balanced again. Kuro can also release new male 4 stars.

[@Fyreshield]

I didn't mind the ratio at first because it was still better than 2:1 and there just weren't that many characters (relatively speaking). I expected it to level out or at least stay close to 2:1 as time progressed, but there definitely seems to be a trend of producing a more female-heavy roster than I was expecting from a game that started out with all the best (meta-wise, at least) characters being male. Regardless, as long as Kuro keeps making their female characters interesting and unique (or we go like a whole year without the visage of a new male character) I'm not going to complain. Either way, I'd definitely like to see characters have more involvement in the main story (and each other's stories) in the future.

[@wildcrown340]

As a husbando enjoyer, I really want and NEED more male characters. Jiyan and Calcharo are both my husbands 😤, but they don't know it yet. Talking seriously, dude, the exagerated jiggle physics of female characters are hilarious. They are so over the top that it's funny as hell. I wish it were more realistic? Ye, but we can't deny it's something the common player want. But ye, I really want more male characters in the game, especially if they're grown up men just like Calcharo and Jiyan (well, Jiyan in theory is 19~20 years old, but you get the point). Unfortunately, its well known that female characters are a staple in the gacha genre as the best-selling units and it would be naive to think Kuro would prioritize more male characters over more female characters.

[@av3_ther]

i agree! i would love to have more male characters, i don’t mind that the female characters are more common tbh. honestly the jiggle physics kinda bug me since it feels so painful to look at as a girl myself. i do hope they add depth to these male characters rather than making them the same type personality

[@wildcrown340]

@@av3_ther I think the general opinion among female players about jiggle physics it's a bit divided: some don't really mind it, but some even find it disgusting as it's far beyond realistic or stupid. As a non binary person attracted more to male characters than females, I don't really care as long as is not intrusive. Honestly I'm fine for now with Cal and Jiyan's personalities. The latter has an idle animation which adds a little more to his background story with his fallen comrades, and the responsability (with a bit of guilt) he feel being the general of Jinzhou's army. Calcharo it's like a father figure for all of his Ghost Hounds partners, and he deeply care about them while being intimidating towards anyone outside his social circle. Geshu Lin is the only male character that could make me abandon Calcharo (just a little of course), but for now he's my favorite character in everything. If Kuro decide to make more grown up men characters, they have my money guaranteed 😩

[@wholethedogsout880]

@@wildcrown340 The boob physics are gross and demeaning as hell idc

[@shadowdemonaer]

I enjoy the characters so far, but here's what I want: - I want a bigger balance with the male and female characters. At this point, we know that male characters often don't sell as well, and the only way i can see them being able to catch up now would be to add more four star male characters, which will make the fanbase mad because they'll probably misunderstand and say, "Oh, so our boys don't get to be strong, special, and have special quests to get to know them now??" so that's gonna be rough trying to solve this. - I want more character quests that aren't only for five star characters. - I want to know more about Calcharo and Danjin. Really want quests for them. - I want them to add petite male characters too. Give the petite girls some friends their age that aren't other girls. - I really want to see skin tone variation. They could really impress the gacha community if they did what Genshin refuses to do. And i don't mean such a mild difference between skin tones that the only way you could tell a difference is if you took an eye dropper and looked at the results you got. I mean a genuine, noticeable difference. - I'd like them to please not add more black, white, or red-haired characters for awhile. I want to see more variation in hair colors. We've had a lot of the same colors (or too close colors) back to back. Also less of the same colors for outfits too. I want to see them experiment with new colors very much. - More body variation that isn't just centered around bust and hip size.

[@sonjab.6852]

male characters can sell well, sometimes even outsell waifus but they need to have good design and story etc. And if games releases males like 2-3 times a year, those players who want them have months worth of savings, so less reason to spend money. and then people will say "oh men dont sell". make more men, and give us a reason to spend money lmao

[@obitormn4714]

Men don't sell well mfs when their waifu isn't meta :

[@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW]

@@sonjab.6852 right not no duh the "sells" aren't as high when you release a male character like twice a year

[@zeon9041]

As a male player, I always prefer playing male characters, but PGR had a lot of interesting characters and I never minded playing as the female characters, the story is just that good. WW however, already has some great male characters, but just like you pointed out, they are introduced (if they are at all), and then they vanish from the face of the Earth. I don't think I would mind the gap so much if the male characters also got there time to shine, like Jiyan. thanks for another great video, keep up the great work.

[@sagnikmaulik]

As a male, I hate the jello boobs. They dont feel sexy. They feel silly, like I am watching an over blown cartoon animation.

[@hijodelsoldeoriente]

Same! They look odd. Fake boobs look more real than WuWa's jello bobas. 😂

[@Visperine]

​@@abolfazlsh8260 get out of here

[@wholethedogsout880]

@@abolfazlsh8260 bro is fr commenting under everyone's valid criticism. just say u have no life and go

[@lemon_cream184]

THEY SHOULD GIVE ALL MALE CHARACTERS JIGGLE PHYSICS

[@Jo_youwhatmate]

I definitely want the ratio to become more even because that just means there's an even divide of things to interest all kinds of players AND can serve as breaks for people who have specific tastes they want to stick to, which is only a net positive for the longevity of a game. Like people who explicitly just want female characters can use male banners as an opportunity to save up for the characters that they do want without feeling the temptation of spontaneous pulling. The issue I see arising however is, particularly in asian player bases there is alot and I do mean ALOT of vitriol towards male characters being in gacha, and Kuro has dealt with that vitriol first hand even. I wouldn't be surprised if the ratio currently is at least in part thanks to some of the "feedback" being actual threats against employees and risks of safety because a subset of the playerbase just wants the game to be a pure "waifu" collector or whatever. As for the designs, fashion wise I think it makes sense for overall aesthetics within regions to mesh together so I don't really have criticism in that regard. But I do hope we start seeing some more feature variety for both the men and the women. Yuanwu is a good departure from the typical bishy boy archetypes Kuro would typically use in game, his face has signs of age, he has facial hair and his face actually has a rather unique structure in comparison to the other faces in the game which are largely only differentiated by eye shape and colour. Like how you stated with PGR's 3 blondie boys... being real for moment, If I didn't play PGR and know they each had their own names, I would literally just assume they're all just the same person due to just how little difference between them there is beyond superficial details like clothing. But this in particular isn't a kuro specific issue, and more of an anime styled game issue because you'd be hard pressed to find a gacha not struggling in that regard.

[@notruminari5668]

Can we have bounce slider just like some... "Visual novel" Instead of just having it turned to the max?

[@RateUpRadio]

I think that's a great idea unironically. Everyone wins!

[@sakutaro3musik486]

i wish then i could actually pull female characters

[@wholethedogsout880]

@@abolfazlsh8260 its optional bozo

[@Lucisev_]

10:40 Bruh bruh bruh. Can we get some of those writing back please? After 1.3 my number one problem with Wuwa writing is how everyone just fellatxxxxxx Rover. Trusts and friendships are much more precious when earned, but nooooo. Everyone and everything just accept that Rover is the prophecied person, it's used in Blackshore patch, Jinhsi's lore, Changli's lore, Shorekeeper's lore. And people just easily love Rover, adore them, easily give them authority (battle against Threnodian, arriving at Blackshore). When is this gonna be enough? It's almost vomit inducing.

[@kkj_-ry4kt]

The MC is so invincible at every aspect 😂 (expect memories xdd) even tho I really like the combat but the story is just 😔

[@aratabhist]

but it makes sense in both jinhsi and shorekeeper's story that they will give rover that authority, now the threnodian's one i can understand as prophecy is one thing but capabilities as a leader is another especially since jiyan is right there as well.

[@bigchungus9615]

They're doing great. And 1.3 got praised to hell and back in the East and is doing more than well over here aside maybe one platform out of many. They're doubling down on this for Camellya from the looks of it. In any case, you oughta get used to it or dip cuz they're not changing. Don't worry tho, I told them to add more rover simping in my feedbacks

[@fiyibomiolabode]

@@bigchungus9615why are you responding to every comment criticizing the story or game?

[@Lucisev_]

lol, I'm not even asking for no fan services. I'm asking for them to write better. Not these lazy, cheap plot devices, cheap praises. It's BORING. How long does a person enjoy cheap praises?

[@0.shusei]

Regarding Bust Physique, I completely share the same opinion as you. I hope that many people will send their feedback to Kuro Games, leading to improvements on this matter.

[@banjokazuya2913]

The entirety of 2.XX has only one male character. 8 characters were leaked and there is only ONE male character. Let that sink in. I mean I enjoy the game but the way Kuro takes direction is turning the game into a power fantasy harem rather than a post-apocalyptic sci-fi action rpg.

[@ThemomSlapper]

They're LEAKS

[@Re.verseChaos]

I play Lingyang. I don't care that he's weak. I may be a slave to the meta in FGO, but I'm not letting that happen in WuWa. I'm playing whoever I want.

[@olafshouse]

I agree the jiggle physics detract from the game every time they are showcased imo.

[@Otherface]

For those who are still saving up for Scar, I just wanna say that you guys have nothing but my while respect for such commitment. I have been saving up since launch for Camellya, and even though she will finally be out from npc jail in around 20 days, the waiting is still painful. So I can't imagine how bad it might be to save up for a character that so far *doesn't even have leaks.* (Yes I know there's out there people saving for much longer awaited character in other gacha games, but you usually don't see this commitment towards male characters.) Also Radio talking about jiggle physics for a quarter of a video is such a blessing.

[@sunsun294]

Yeah like the people that we're saving for Sunday in hsr or even dainsleif, capitano, dottore, etc, the male chars popularity is undeniable but the problem is the companies and their excesive need of money and the toxic part of the community (thoose c0*mers that defend jelly physics and keep fighting because they don't want males in their waifu isekai) really stupid

[@danvocals123]

I personally didn't notice the jiggle a lot. But now that you've pointed it out yeah it is alarming. Ziezie looked particularly bad... I do think PGR handles it better and idk if it's too much to hope the game gets a jiggle correction patch one day but that Baizhi meme would be enough imo to make it happen. I think the ratio up to camellya is fine but absolutely stretching it. I'm hoping 1.5 or 2.0 will have multiple male characters. Also great to have you back!!

[@FadedGray-s8j]

0:00 YES there are only 7 playable male characters 💀💀

[@gullugadha]

Missed your videos, great to have you back, honestly the presentation and script of this video were awesome, thanks for the content.

[@SmithOfGear92]

What I wanna know is when the hell Calcharo is going to show up in a quest? Seriously, *has anyone seen this man?* Someone file a missing persons report on him. Like our esteemed uncle Watanabe from PGR, he too leads a vanguard of rogue mercenaries and I'd like to see that get explored at some point. So far, Calcharo is like his Forte: *a complete ghost...*

[@ys3606]

His merc group is the GHOST hounds after all.

[@SmithOfGear92]

@@ys3606 Ghost Hounds. Uses a ghost to fight. Bro, it's all connected.

[@wholethedogsout880]

They need to either get rid of those god awful boob physics (boobs dont jiggle or move like that especially if the character is wearing a bra) or they need to fix them so that they look normal. They should take notes from HSR, Genshin, etc. for how boobs move.

[@glebscheglov9291]

There are no bras in post apoc world

[@bunnyx2819]

@@glebscheglov9291 They are bras everywhere.😑

[@glebscheglov9291]

@@bunnyx2819 IRL big soft bouncy boobs are jiggle very beautifully, and somewhat like jelly, if a women doesn't wear a bra. So, you either never seen real bazonkers in your life, or a girl yourself, but flat so you hate jelly out of spite

[@BBQsaucemix]

I'm all for a 2:1 to 3:1 ratio as I also prefer playing women characters. After all, male ones give me an opportunity to skip (or pull if their design appeals to me). I do also know the game's not just made for me and that a more diverse cast for a broader appeal can only help the game thrive further, which is great.

[@kryss7234]

Cbt 1 was better, shoot me if you want, but the way they introduced crownless, the 1v1, the cutscenes, the character reactions, felt so much more real and could actually be an amazing foundation to build a great story and make it feel more serious.

[@vjbd2757]

Cbt1 prety much guted your motivation for siding with Jinzhou. Why help these guys when almost everyone is very harsh to you even after helping them?

[@thisiswrathspeaking2057]

nah, im with OP. It would be a satisfying payoff when we come from having no comrades at the start, to having the entire jinzhou at your back.

[@beestek.94]

Meh. From what I heard, CT1 was a lot worse, with the crownless fight the only good thing about it.

[@yuu23163]

@@beestek.94 They hated (CN) that chixia pointed a gun at rover and yangyang almost at critical condition after the crownless fight. Well they can't self insert themselves in it. and they want girls to be infatuated with them in game because this is contrary in their RL.

[@beestek.94]

@@yuu23163 Aside from that, from what I heard, the story doesn't make sense and is a mess. There's a lot of fetch quest. And just as what the other guy said, the people are still hostile after a proper introduction, and after helping them. That is very much realistic and unrealistic at the same time. So I understand why CBT players would hate that.

[@DzinaPiorun]

I'm not the type of person to lower expectations, I wanna at least 1/3 ratio if they don't do this, I quit.

[@DzinaPiorun]

@@abolfazlsh8260 I will give them a chance since it is still a new game. Maybe characters and story will get better with time, who knows, after all KURO devs proved that they listen.

[@DzinaPiorun]

@@abolfazlsh8260 I will give them a chance since it is still a new game. Maybe characters and story will get better with time, who knows, after all KURO devs proved that they listen.

[@prettyfish6747]

I already quit lmao

[@DzinaPiorun]

@@prettyfish6747 I will wait since it is still a new game. Maybe characters and story will get better with time, who knows, after all KURO devs proved that they listen.

[@prettyfish6747]

@@DzinaPiorun thats totally fair. I just got bored of the story tbh 😆

[@Brrrrrnah]

i was sad abt jiyan barely having presence in the main story despite appearing a lot. I actually started playing the game because of him 😢BUT in the end, as you said, i loved him a lot more with his story quest. Hes handsome, gentle, strong and kind AND I LOVE THAT ABOUT HIM. I loved xiangli yao too, and i wished the rest of the males were introduced more naturally. (i want SCAR SO BAD THO😂) Ofc i started bc of jiyan but a lot of other reasons made me stay. (Changli, jinhsi, and how much better everything became when kuro devs were not being hurried to finish smth😅) I love boobas but i have a limit too😅 Since I love males and females equally I am fine for the moment but I can see the bad ratio lol...which is not good. Designs are great! Writing is good, not perfect but enjoyable.

[@yuuminator]

welcome backk

[@ShadowCero]

I'm surprised on the story front you didn't bring up the whole 'every woman is in love with Rover' thing. The game has pivoted pretty hard into 'Master Love' territory which sucks cause pandering to master love basically means you inhibit building the world and character relations between each other so they don't intrude on shipping your self insert with the character. Every woman 5* has been shipped with Rover, Yinlin to the least degree but stuff like Jinshi who doesn't have too much in game but outside of game such as the trailer being a date with her is pretty egregious. Then in the next patch we get Shorekeeper who is obsessed with Rover, and then in the next next patch we're gonna get Camellia who is obsessed with Rover. Kinda repeating the same beat here lol. This is aspect is part of why I've lost a lot of interest in the Story. I like a world where characters feel like they truly live and interact in that world and Master Love writing is pretty much the antithesis to that ideal.

[@bigchungus9615]

All I read was that Wuwa is doing everything right and doubling down so it's time to throw another $1k at Kuro once Camellya drops. Woooo🎉🎉🎉

[@Soundwave1900]

Especially 1.3 story. So much of possible story revelations got swept away in favor of a waifu bait, and then even the waifu bait ended up being halfahhed... All for what? I want my cbt1 story back.

[@martialpeak8000]

"Everyone was in love with rover" guess who's not reading the dialogues there's only 2 female characters who's in love with rover and that is shorekeeper and yangyang or maybe you dont know how to differentiate companion, friend etc.

[@Zephyrion22]

@@martialpeak8000 Doesn't quite invalidate the point. Everyone just *likes* MC in a very flat way. No one is teasing, being adverse, disagreeing, questioning, or well, doing anything that is not licking Rover's boots in one way or another. Of course, it's different levels of affections but still. Youhu, for the few lines of dialogues she had, is a good example. It gives us a glimpse of who she is first, then she interacts with Rover in her own bratty way, which was such a breath of fresh air compared to what we got for the last few patches

[@martialpeak8000]

@@Zephyrion22why would they disagree when they knew who rover is? And rover was literally saving or helping them and ngl you sounds so weird for using those weird word like wtheck is licking rover's boots, i didn't see one, they act more intimate or some kind of teasing, but you assumed they were in love or they like rover? Damn that's tough

[@daFoggovien]

Kuro really have to fix the shitty jiggle physic in this game. PGR new patchs are having it also

[@sunsun294]

tbh its disgusting really

[@rao9574]

I totally agree! That's why I stopped playing Wuwa, because unfortunately it's weak compared to the competition. I'm more drawn to PGR to catch up on the main story. By the way, I think Genshin Impact owes its success to the male characters, because it wasn't a typical ecchi game for otaku, which encouraged many more players to play. Aether Geazer tried to repeat this and after a year they gave up and returned to their comfort zone. Which I regret because the plot really drew me in. I have no problem with female characters in games as long as they have realistic proportions and physics. But I have friends who will say - if there's no husband, I don't play.

[@TheXander2004]

the boob physics being all over the place has always been weird to me considering how much effort kuro put into their animations in other places

[@vanMrMann]

Short answer: yes. Longs answer: definitely. The reduction of female characters to Rover simps and thirst traps is also sad, as everything on release was a bit more neutral in these matters (except the hilariously stupid jiggle physics ofc). It's also weird that characters just come into the lores existence in the patch they're realeased in. Makes them feel meaningless.

[@bigchungus9615]

Damn... I been sending them feedback to keep making the female characters into giga rover simps after throwing a months paycheck at Shorekeeper and her weapon 😂 didn't even need to roll so much since I got her s2 early asf but I still kept going in on that banner so they know to keep it up

[@einszweidrei486]

at this point I feel like one of the reasons calcharo is non-existant is because of the huge change from the CBT (since I do see him as quite a... violent-ish looking character) story and they reaalllly wanted to just have not-sephiroth revealed to voiced by sephiroth (yes, both are Toshiyuki Morikawa). Doesn't stop just how weird it is for them to release a character BEFORE their story, it usually is after (of which I do hope happens a lot more now so people can have more characters to look forward to that aren't currently on the antagonist's side).

[@lukepattinson3108]

I prefer playing female characters too, but there needs to be a balance. I'm starting to get bored of every new banner being waifu bait. If Kuro keep pumping out new female characters and only 1 male character every 5/6 months, I'll probably quit. I'd also love it if they made more unique characters. The world is in a constant state of turmoil and battle, yet every character is a 10/10 in a skimpy outfit with no battle scars or armour.

[@siege_sensei]

I don't care one way or the other if a character is male or female as long as they are cool and fun to play. That being said, kuro ladies (pgr and wuwa) go really hard on the design front.

[@denzel4341]

I love the part where the community said, YOU'RE LISTENING RIGHT KURO? NOW WHERE'S MY FEEDBACK? WHAT DO YOU MEAN DEV TIME? REST? WTF IS THAT! YOU'RE DESIGNING A NEW REGION? FIXING OLD BUGS? ADDING QOLS? I DONT WANT ANY OF THAT! GIVE ME MALE CHARACTERS RIGHT NOW! WHAT DO YOU MEAN MAJORITY OF THE GAME'S DEMOGRAPHIC ARE MALE AND THAT YOUR PREVIOUS GAME HAD VERY POOR SALES ON YOUR MALE CHARACTERS AS WELL AS YOUR MARKET RESEARCH FROM OTHER GAMES HAD THE SAME TREND? THATS IRRELEVANT! DESIGN HUSBANDOS NOW! WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY. CONCEPT ARTS, VOICE ACTING, CHARACTER DESIGN AND LORE TAKES TIME TO DEVELOP? JUST DO IT

[@Danariya1]

Funny thing, I watched a video of this exact issue regarding males in gacha games and several hours later this video comes out, so I'll just copy paste what I commented already (telling this in case someone sees me comment the same thing under 2 different videos 😅) I've played WuWa since launch and I've had sooo much fun with it, but if you want to play as male characters you're basically screwed. Lingyang, Yuanwu and Aalto are characters I see anyone barely use, Jiyan was quickly replaces by Jinshi in many players' teams the next banner because of her crazy dmg + she got the whole main story focused on her in the next update, but ok, to be fair, I still see people use Jiyan in teams with Mortefi, who's also used not infrequently, but it's still not as frequent as many other female characters. And then there's Calcharo who not only haven't appeared in the story yet, but got replaced in terms of combat in 4 months by another electro male character - Xiangli Yao, who was given for free AND plays much easier than Calcharo, so there's no reason not to use him. Havoc male Rover has really good dmg, but he's optional so you could just not have him on your account. So, basically, out of 8(vs17) characters, people only consistently use 3-4 Also, this is a problem with WuWa in general, but their designs look boring (for me personally, I already know all the arguements against this claim, that's just my opinion) so I hope they won't just put every future male character in suits... I still think Genshin has many really well designed male characters and have more variety in their designs that aren't just "suit 1, suit 2, suit 3". Venti's design is still one of my favourites of all time, not just in Genshin, but in ANY anime game. Granted, it still sufferes from the fact that the developers are too afraid to make any characters look older than 30 and less than stick figure skinny (with SOME exceptions that started happening like what, 2 years after game's launch?), even though some of them like Zhongli or Neuvillette would've looked so much better if their age and personality were reflected in their models looking older, like 40+. And I know there're still many tall model male characters in just... suits, but they still have variety. Also male Rover in WuWa feels like the most copy-paste isekai harem protagonist №32783287, while Aether has such a unique design compared to many-many male protagonists in anime, if he was a banner character, I would've considered pulling him just bacause of his design Also some other thoughts exclusive to this video: another thing I don't really like in terms of how female characters are treated in WuWa is that it feels like almost every woman Rover comes in contact with has a crush on them? To be fair, I play as female Rover so I'm like "Hech yeah yuri!!!" (living for that toxic yuri Camellya/Rover dynamic, sorry I'm like that 💀), but I think it's still pretty unrealistic for every one of them to fall for Rover and knowing this game was mostly made with male player base in mind... idk, feel like a cheap wish fulfillment to me. Maybe it wouldn't have been so noticeble if there were more male characters, because Scar OPENLY flirts with Rover regardless of their gender and we had some romantic-coded time with Xiangli Yao, but it's still not as obvious as for example a scene with Zhezhi in the same event when she was starring at Rover the whole time, blushing constantly and when they were having a snack all by themselves late at night Zhezhi was one word away from outright saying that it's a "date" while fireworks were going off in the background, like, it couldn't be any more obvious 🤣

[@HSMJose7]

me personally i don't mind a lot that the female characters have a crush on rover but i don't like how everything happens so quick, like they get introduced and it feels like 2 days later said character is head over heels for rover.

[@dragonkyuu]

agree on the designs being boring... some are fine but a lot of the designs just arent interesting enough for me to use. it doesnt help that im not super into the sci-fi look and much prefer harder fantasy or more unique designs which genshin has also been straying away from more and more ahaha I just cant win tbh edit: male designs. the girlies have been very unique and I appreciate it even if it isnt my preference. love yinlin changli and encore to death

[@salinalee2613]

yup to all of this!

[@shian4803]

Playing a game solely for gender wanting is a recipe for disaster in any gacha game tbh, you'll just keep being annoyed 😂

[@glebscheglov9291]

Wait. What characters overall popularity have to do with anything? If you want to play males - you just play them and don't care at all how many people playing males in general. For example - i am mostly playing with all female teams, but regardless the fact many people do too means nothing to me. Heck, I even built Jiyan and Yao to finally 18 starred overdrive ToA recently.

[@sunsun294]

I also main Lingyang and i don't care if he doens't do a lot of damage or meta, when you know to build a character you will be able to complete everything, he and jiyan are my favorites, and i was shocked when i saw how much popularity reached xiang li yao because i found his design really simple and boring even tho im a lee main in PGR, this situation keeps getting worst with ZZZ and Genshin with the lack of males, making it seem like they don't care at all, i know yeah money but, at least give us a balance and equality, in infinity nikki the physics are just chefkiss and not freacking jelly physics, like please, chiangli and zhezi (can't remember the names) , what the f*** is even this.

[@zumi_5254]

I'm a girl wuwa player and I'm trying my best to save up for male characters but the female characters r so damn good that I lost all my astrites pulling for female characters 😭

[@bxbxk]

Agree with all your points.. That's unfortunately the reason I quit.. I don't mind fanservice.. But if it's one sided and they even censor scars old design, that means I'm clearly not the target audience

[@Goddrium]

If anything, they could've recolored the area, because the body suit was perfect! The pants look off 😢

[@junkss69]

W stick to genshin

[@bxbxk]

@@junkss69 I dropped genshin as well.. 1 whole year without a new limited male character is just ridiculous.. I use my whale money on Love and deepspace.. At least the money I spend there gets used to make more content that I like

[@Zyckth]

I have 26k astrites from bp, the login thing you can buy, and events. But I’m considering of quitting too for a while (I already stopped before 😅). I’ll wait for Bulante or whoever he is at 2.1.

[@darweath]

i mean atleast this one know when to quit they never tried to escape pgr 1:4-5 really

[@Kasraken]

I think the ratio is fine as long as the character is fun and good (as in worth pulling for). If male, ok, if female ok, if weak not ok. I am not spending money on a weak character no matter how good they look because they are of no use to me for clearing content if they are weak. With that said, I am not a meta player who only cares about power. I am an average player with slow reflexes who wants strong characters so I can clear content and get all the rewards. I am not spending/pulling for just "ok" characters no matter if they are male or female. Anyway, good video!

[@redsky397]

Seems like many popular gachas are going back to the waifu collector type that was popular a few years ago. Genshin released only one 5* male in 2024. Wuthering waves only got 2male chaeacters after release with no male coming in the next few months either. And zzz also hasnt released a single s rank male character since launch.

[@glebscheglov9291]

Gacha sales are dropping across the board, so it's natural they returned to the things that got them stable big income

[@r0gamer94]

the jiggle is crazy dumb but when I am playing I don't even notice. I wonder why it's even in the game sometimes.

[@glebscheglov9291]

It's part or wuthering wifes appeal.

[@rttundewie]

as a woman who pulls for mostly female characters, I don't mind cool looking guys, because i need more pulls for that said ladies. i don't think kuro forgot about males, it just we are at this point where female characters are still more popular worldwide. some guys are really popular in english-speaking communities, but let's be honest, that's probably not the case in other countries. scar has potential, but as you said, villains should have some development (i need phrolova soon more than water im not joking) to become playable. also 9:23 luna mentioned 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@sonjab.6852]

Characters like Zhongli and Jing Yuan are very popular in CN too. Wuwa copied almost every thing from Gi except the gender ratio

[@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW]

@@sonjab.6852 you say that but genshin only had one male five star in all of 2024 so i think they're pretty similar in that regard

[@sonjab.6852]

@@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW yes, I am well aware of that, but it wasnt always like this. When I started in 1.4 I got a husbando almost every patch. Sumeru was heavily husbando region. I doubt Wuwa is going to do anything similar :D

[@rttundewie]

​@@sonjab.6852zhongli is china inspired region's archon, that's why he's very popular there. now that i think about it, huanglong in wuwa has a few cities, so future male magistrate can be really popular in china as well.

[@Soundwave1900]

As a male and a husbando enjoyer: scar rn is such a mustache twirling villain i really doubt I'd pull for him even if he's be the only male I'll see in a year. He needs development badly, if he's even developable at this point.

[@blairyleon8640]

There's always been a significant proportion of gamers who are reactionaries. Teenagers, alone in their bedroom playing games with sexualised female characters, can sometimes develop the feeling that the games were made for them specifically. When they get a bit older, and become a bit more aware of the world around them (in this case the large variety of games not made for them specifically) they get personally offended because, still feeling like they're the only true audience, it seems to them like someone has deliberately come in and changed things just to fuck with them (and their fellow GamersTM) specifically. This thinking is particularly prominent because around these gamers were teenagers, games were considered by most to be a thing only for teenage boys, and around the time they were becoming adults, people were realising that that wasn't true, that anyone could play video games. And so games were transitioning away from being pointlessly sexualised. They have a strong emotional attachment to the games they played growing up, they see that games made now are different, and they interpret that as a personal attack on them.

[@wildannugrahanurdinsyah2797]

The thing is Kuro is a master for 3D design & gameplay we can see it from PGR and they have waaayyy cooler male characters than any 3D ARPG in the gacha sphere, they could have exploit that aspect and giving more attention to the male characters to distinct themselves from typical waifu-oriented gacha games If they worried about profit then they dumb and only play safe to become typical waifu-oriented gacha games. The mindset that male chars wont sell well just dumb because Female players have been playing gacha games in decades but mostly they are exclusive playing otome or male idol gachas BUT during covid their presence more prominent in general gacha games too we can see it with Genshin, HSR and GBF been showering with money when they releasing male characters that appeal to both male and female players If Kuro really cannot move to that way atleast giving us more male cast on the story like bro even Yhan got more fanart than YinLin on Twitter when the game were released, we just cravings for cool male even if them just forever NPC🫠🫠🫠

[@wildannugrahanurdinsyah2797]

@@abolfazlsh8260 Jiyan's revenue still top 3 behind YinLin and Changli, XY revenue low bcs he were given out free

[@karew7051]

Holy cope, yinlin gets more fanart in a day than whatever male you pick lmao

[@wildannugrahanurdinsyah2797]

@@karew7051 you never seen NSFW Yhan fanart then, I follow male & female artist and Yhan got the most fanart first then YinLin follow on her release

[@frozenshade96]

I'm hoping Geshu Lin becomes playable. I love both the male and female characters, but I don't think there are enough male characters. Someone with Yhan's body type as a playable character would be amazing.

[@sunsun294]

I was excited for this game since it was announced but i won't lie, i understand every company wants money, but if something i knew is that kuro games listen to their players and seeing so many people complain about the lack of males and them not doing anything made me really feel disappointed, i love Wuwa, but even being in the endgame i had to uninstall it, i play for the male characters (husbandos) and now the lack of them made me feel i don't have a reason to play at all, specially with those b00bs physics that makes it feel so disgusting and unrealistic and i think making them show so much skin (like the difference in the design of female and male rover) is really unfair, also and sexualize them like that, i just saw the leaks of camellya gameplay and yes... wow, really unfair for female audience.

[@glebscheglov9291]

There are much more people who complain about people complaining about the lack of males and ask Kuro to keep things as they are now.

[@Aruzien]

0:10 im pretty sure Thats my post lmaoo but what spark that post is when others have stated and posting on twitter as well that there was going be more male characters from that stream at the time and one of them was also providing screenshot, but again never can't believe anything online even if it was mistranslated or not. but my post just happen blow up at that time after going off the screenshots and what others have originally said at the time. but yes, that was false kek thats the entire story, for which I take full accountability and wouldn't have posted of course if I knew it wasn't factual information

[@Gheniel_]

Lmao Aru thats funny af😂

[@Aruzien]

@@Gheniel_ LMAO, Its just funny seeing my post randomly chilling there. but I don't mind going out my way say I was wrong about something.

[@RateUpRadio]

It is 🙈 I removed your name because I just wanted an example and not to lay any blame; this rumor was absolutely everywhere and I don't believe it was anyone's fault. I want you to know not to worry about it, things like this happen! It's really easy to get tripped up when so many people state something as fact. Even I would have had no idea if it weren't for my good friend who understood the original.

[@MonoAlissa]

Considering Rinascita which is a gothic themed area is coming at 2.0 there's still some hope for male characters although they've leaked Rococo a new 5* female, it would be fresh new start to add more male characters, the females are also great but the ratio of 17:7 is diabolical, honestly I didn't even realise how many female characters are in wuwa, and would also like more variety in the models. Even though I liked the CBT story the new one feels a lot more interesting rather than bland, I'm they'd stick to the post-apocalyptic theme since it's rare to see a game with such elements, A pessimistic view of the future, Catastrophic events in a more primitive level of sorts, 1.3 is peak, they did good the writing but there are things they could still improve such as the pace, + new fun mechanics just gives a nice touch to the game, Shorekeeper on the other hand played an amazing role which contributed to the aspect of romantic elements/relationship within the story which gave the rover character development, further taking a deep dive into their story, Rover is definitely an important figure without a doubt, Kuro shown that they are a strategist similar to a commandant, but in their past it's shown rover leads battles rather than fighting, and Jue mentioned rover gave their knowledge to them, but it's uncertain whether or not the Rover is a combatant or militant. Waiting for Scar and Phrolova's release may take a while but it's worth it, taking into account the improvements, adjustments and many more were made for us players to enjoy and have a smooth experience, having striking animations and majestic idles, seeing how much the developers have done for us players, surely Kuro has lots for us in the future

[@DreadedDorm]

The ratio isn't great, but I'm never surprised with these games. I like the female characters in this game (save a few with cringe writing), but all I could hope for is more males in the future. Geshu is my most anticipated and hope it won't be a century before he drops lol

[@Tirufing]

I can't tell you how much you made me laugh at the jello part, but that was beyond hilarious. Thanks Lina and your team for keeping us informed and entertained. :)

[@RamshacklePrefect4rth]

On the brighside, male characters collector/enjoyer (like me) won't need to pay for collecting them cuz they're few so we have saved a lot for the future upcoming ones! 😎 I have spent on weapons banner, and gave all my male characters 5 stars weapons plus fully completed their chain! 😎👌✨

[@jo3y960]

Xiangli Yao got them by the ropes. We really need a Watanabe or Kamui in Wuwa. BRING BACK AWU

[@badqualityfrog9367]

I’m dissappointed on how quickly it became like pgr. That game releases 1 male character every 6 months and give them coatings once in a blue moon. Yes they give male characters good attention and detail, but their talent can’t really show if they don’t actually release more. Also 8:28 I disagree I think characters like Roland Watanabe and Wanshi all have incredible designs and personalities especially Watanabe and his story chapter

[@sarsaparilla187]

as a long time pgr player (i play on CN), seeing the current state of wuwa is really sad. i hate when we express our disappointment, other players just say, "well, at least they made a really cool male character". although i agree with that, but as fans, we only get to enjoy that moment once (or twice) a year. but yall are having an entire feast everyday. ohh yeah coating too. this game has been out for almost FIVE years yet we don't have a single gacha coating for male characters lol. i've been following wuwa since before tech test and not gonna lie, i wanted to support them, thinking they might want to change their mindset and treat their male characters better than pgr. and how is it so far? this is another pgr situation again! holy crap. i quit wuwa after i claimed my free Xiangli Yao, and probably won't ever come back. i just hope they can do better and prove me wrong. sorry for mucho texto aha

[@badqualityfrog9367]

@@sarsaparilla187 lol they will never add a male gacha coating, with the rate of female character releases, they’re more likely to release coatings for them

[@sarsaparilla187]

@@badqualityfrog9367 lmao for sure. watch it they gonna release another gacha coating but for Shukra Qu or Oblivion Luna instead. (i dont hate them though) this game is just hopeless, and im afraid they will never change after seeing how Wuwa is now.

[@xphantom1045]

I really hope Kuro will make variants of already existing characters at some point in the future like they did in PGR, I NEED Mortefi with a tail so bad. The overclocking has some really good potential for skins and maybe even 4star to 5star transitions, and I really hope they decide to use that in Wuthering Waves as well

[@pedrosantoro323]

1_The ratio is bad, 2:3 (male:female) is ideal regarding money and player satisfaction. 2_The design is good too (not to include the boob jigle, that is too much), they have a concept for every region and I have many reasons to believe that in the next regions the characters will have a very different vibe from the current region. 3_The story got way better after 1.0, I just don't like the ''harem'' vibe that we are going for, I mean, does every female character has to have a crush on rover? That just does not make sense.

[@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW]

and that haram vibe only fuels the wrong type of people who will probably get mad at kuro for adding guys because it threatens them or something

[@tris1591]

Because it not , there only 2 have a crush on rover.

[@RanRan_11]

It's hilarious how people act like Kuro is pandering to the incel crowd by adding more female characters, while those same people are the ones pretending like every female character is glazing the MC.

[@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW]

@@RanRan_11 they objectively are, i don't think it's bad if we had more guys to also glaze so it wouldn't feel like one sided pandering

[@W-H98]

The jello physics is a great weapon of distraction against your foes.

[@veljkovedox]

Scar and Geshu will make Kuro money more than there is to print lol

[@zachanas4670]

Unlikely.

[@veljkovedox]

@@zachanas4670 likely

[@bxbxk]

@@veljkovedox many people who were hyped for scar left already .. Many of my friends saw the direction this game took and just quit before sunk cost fallacy would hit.. Even if they eventually release scar or geshu Lin.. The damage has been done by the blatant favoritism towards female units

[@junkss69]

keep coping

[@DCminh-pe9wf]

​l​@@bxbxkGenshin went 5 banner without a waifu character and when Ganyu released she did well in terms of revenue though, which is a larger gap than anything WuWa has ever had to dealt with On WuWa tracker, despite Xiangli Yao being FREE, his weapon banner is the worst performing DPS sig in the entire game The only thing it beat out was YinLin and Zhezhi sig, both were sub dps weapon pulls. Jiyan weapon had more people pulling on it despite the 1.0 issue Either A: the husbando player drop off by so much from a mere 3 banner gap that there were roughly half of them left in 1.2 Or B: they were never there to begin with

[@haru_takahashi24]

CBT story start was better...trust needed to be earned and had a better connection with Yang Yang because of her unique ability

[@plainsalt]

This topic really pisses me off because the gacha community and this video too, to a degree feeds into a cycle that makes sure male characters won't sell. The below average writing doesn't help either (looking at 1.3). It's supply and demand, so let's see: In the east, the community is riddled with toxic incel men who don't want other fictional guys near their waifus, and are willing to threatten studios, which is not easy to deal with for sure.. but companies shouldn't foster that community by just giving them more of exactly what they want, it breeds more toxicity and stops some potential gamers from joining the community. In the west (probably east too) women and queer people have been historically bullied out of action games because it's "not meant for them" or they "ruin" the space. It's been better for sure, but there are still has visible, long lasting effects, there are simply more straight male gamers. Demand for male characters was lower in the beginning due to the above mentioned things, lower demand for male characters -> female characters sell a bit bettter -> companies fixate on them, so now male characters aren't worth investing into, lower supply for the demand of male characters -> even lower demand for male characters because even if the community is more accepting the supply is low and patience is finite. The solution is simply making more well designed, well written, relevant, well advertised characters with engaging gameplay. Kuro's been great at gameplay, but they really lack in the relevancy and writing department when it comes to Wuthering Waves. The designs, as you said also could be better, which I think is about to happen with 2.0, but we'll have to see. Genshin's community is larger partially because they simply invest more into male characters (more variety attracts a wider range of fans) and advertises more. People keep saying we can't bring Love and Deep Space into this, but I have a question: How many more companion quests disguised as main story quests quests will it take until Wuwa is also an otome game with good gameplay? Attracting more women and queer people into a community usually results in more fan-made content, which is partially why XY was well recieved, with lots of fanart, as you've mentioned. They create more fanart, more fanfiction, more fun edits of characters, etc. it feeds the community, but I think communities take these fan-made works for granted. Anyways, I've let my steam out and as you said it takes longer to change the character roster, than to give us QoL. I have hope and it's a great game regardless (bugs and some writing excluded) but it's been frustrating to watch people allow the cycle. I'll be pulling for Jiyan's weapon.

[@salinalee2613]

you're so damn right frfr. like, LOOK AT BAYONETTA!!! she's so... well, she *was* so well done before character assassination. but still, so many women and queer people LOVED her. her style, her vibe, and also we just enjoy combat games too??? like it's not that hard to fathom, unless you don't want to. and that's been the issue for the longest time. real talk, I *HATE* that Lucia will probably never be in another devil may cry game b/c she happened to be in the worst received one, that was nuked out of the cannon. Hate it, lol.

[@plainsalt]

@@salinalee2613 EXACTLY! I haven't played DMC yet, but feel so bad about Bayonetta! It really went downhill in 3, I'm scared for the franchise!

[@salinalee2613]

@@plainsalt as far as I'm concerned there is no more bayo lol. so many ppl just did not care after all that happened. it's wild that they couldn't let the witch sapphics, who've had a 3 game long relationship building storyline, just, ya know... magic a child into existence? surely they could've done something like that. I mean, in gd boruto, orichimaru has a child through ninja science, essentially, and they even acknowledge how they have constantly and consistently done a gender, lmfao. a kid canonically having two moms was a bridge too far for nintendo, I guess lmfao.

[@karew7051]

Have you ever thought that they don't want to? Most of these devs are straight men, maybe homos and females should band together make their dream game

[@karew7051]

​@@salinalee2613lmao bayonetta mindbroke the transbians, she is straight and a happy mother cry about it

[@lawinheritor5122]

Need more male, I'm A MALE and I want play badass male character. I really enjoy changli and yinlin (my waifu), but it doesn't count me out for new and cool male character too. Kuro need to change the ratio, this is getting ridiculous....if kuro though female mean more money than rather making wuwa a succes story driven gacha game, I suggest they make ecchi gacha like nikke and snowbreak. The appealing, interesting, and realistic world building in the story doesn't filled with only women doing stuff.....I play this game for the first time because of how badass is calcharo and jiyan is not how I'm gonna get waifu bait like zhezi. Kuro false ad this game to me that for sure.......

[@gordonfoo2416]

Let us wait Kuro cooks, I just hope that we will soon get 6 weeks per patches. 7 weeks are too long

[@glebscheglov9291]

I hope we never get 6 weeks. It's to short to get everything you want in gacha

[@ciello1195]

Every single popular gacha have the male character problem. But fret not, the playerbase is good at gaslighting themselves with "it's just a couple patch, it'll eventually get better"

[@salinalee2613]

not even finished with the vid yet, but thank you so much for making this. you're right and you should say it louder, lol.

[@salinalee2613]

ok! I just finished, and I still agree. for me... as a woman enjoyer, lol, I like playing as women, HOWEVER, these gacha games tend to not make that feel too good For Everyone. it's like you can feel that the women aren't there *for you* , and that doesn't feel good at all. I think the designs are lacking when they're trying to make all the women characters "sexy" and the "physics" are comically cringe at best. I will pull whatever character I think is cool, be they guy, girl, or enby, but the way things are going doesn't instill confidence in me. plus seeing them change scar's design didn't sit right with me either. it just feels like a lot of pandering to a very annoying, very loud subsection of players. it's not like we'll ever get confirmation, but it's possible that the little lion boy was changed b/c of those same annoying players. what I'm really concerned about is that if players are leaving b/c of the lack of characters that appeal to them, then the data they're getting possibly has a strong confirmation bias that doesn't actually represent *why* a not insignificant amount of players are dropping the game. like a false positive of sorts. I also think the writing is kinda cringe. I play girl rover, so most of the interactions are gay, as they should be lol, buuut I'd like to see the characters have interests outside of the player's character. this isn't some otome game or whatever. I feel like the characters could be better written if they didn't all have to be written to revolve around rover, or if they at least showed some skepticism or friction or something. but everyone is just so... palletable, and it feels kinda yucky in it's desire to be "safe" and inoffensive to ppl who are playing wuwa as a digital harem. kuro can write, but I think they're not going to do as much as they're capable of because they're trying to appeal to a very boring audience that can't handle every person not simping for their character. and I feel the same regarding the designs as well. we need cool girls and hot girls and cool & hot girls lol. variety is good, and I'd like to see the same for the guys too. let newer guy characters be soft and femme, as well as muscular and masculine. and do the same but opposite for women lol. mix it up a bit! and give us cool playable characters that are like trailblazer from pgr, who isn't a pullable character, but has one of the coolest designs I've seen for sure. anyways, thank you again for making the vid. this conversation can be kinda gross sometimes, but you handled it well, as I was expecting tbh. take care!~

[@joaquinnevarez2509]

They are saying we are getting Bulante very soon

[@badqualityfrog9367]

@@joaquinnevarez2509 yes in 2.1

[@joaquinnevarez2509]

@@badqualityfrog9367 that’s why we have to wait and see if he’s coming very soon

[@sonjab.6852]

Imo March 2025 is not very soon lol.

[@joaquinnevarez2509]

@@sonjab.6852 well see then

[@banjokazuya2913]

Bulante will be the only male character that is going to be released until the end of version 2 updates.

[@lia-zu9lj]

The important question here is Kuro afraid of the failure of male characters? I need a convincing reason from them Being silent about why there aren't more male characters makes me think the game will be waifu only. I remember when neuvillette was released from genshin impact he broke the internet. Everyone was talking about him to this day neuvillette has been a huge success everywhere I think we male character fans left the game a long time ago. Maybe I will come back when more five-star male characters appear.

[@sagiTheBoyyy]

I WANT MORE MALES RAHHHH!!!!

[@MagisterialVoyager]

i just want a husbando healer, then my WuWa life would be complete, lol. on a deeper note, i AM a husbando collector and just your plain men-liking straight woman. but i am very much into the girlies if i liked them enough (hence me plotting savings to get Lumi). i don't really mind the lack of men for now. i'll see how i feel again in a year since this game is still pretty new.

[@StrongestHumanAlive]

I like characters like Jinhsi. Lore heavy, calm, AND NO JIGGLES FOR PETE'S SAKE. One of the many reasons i don't use Baizhi, Taoqi and didn't pull for Changli and Yinlin was because of those two things that seem to have a life of their own. I may like mommies. But i never, and i mean never, pull for them. In Genshin, HSR, or WuWa. Genshin, I'm a Wanderer main, HSR, I'm a Firefly Main, and in WuWa, I'm never leaving my Jinhsi

[@glebscheglov9291]

So, basically you just luck out, for both Jinshi and Firefly are top OP tier units in their games)

[@StrongestHumanAlive]

@@glebscheglov9291 WDYM? I started HSR when Firefly Banner was up. Only a week in and I got her. I didn't luck out? I farmed hard for her. As for Jinhsi, you can say I lucked out because I redownloaded the game when her banner was up and I was at 70 something pity. But I believe I didn't luck out there too because I have her E1

[@glebscheglov9291]

@@StrongestHumanAlive the luck I was talking about is two of your favourite chars are the strongest or one of the strongest in their games gameplay wise.

[@StrongestHumanAlive]

@@glebscheglov9291 Got It. I apologize for my rudeness. Thanks though.

[@NikLoveGaming]

I think they really need this like timeout patch where they just rerun characters instead of release new one, make story for all characters like Taoqi, YuanWu, Jiaxin, Danjin and Calcharo, fix some physics and make proper story . I don't mind harem as I enjoy story for 1.3 but still it feel bit to quickly and some people felt it was rushed. I had hope because Kuro will always improving but this is open world game, not like PGR they need to keep players content. The event they do was alright, like GI all I did finished up my energy and jump to other games. I understand they listen to audience but they also need to make some changes base on themself. Still enjoy the game far, 1.3 patch story was really good. Can't blame some people because you can't satisfied everyone.

[@zaahruq]

Lol, as long as kuro doesn't go the genshin route. All the characters in the hoyoverse shop at the same penquin tail, high shoulder suit shop. Everyone's got a coat tail in hoyo.

[@TKS87]

i wish kuro games would release a male char atleast like every patch, 4 star or 5 star, kind of like in hsr, most often than not releasing atleast one male char every patch, sometimes even two.

[@AFraok]

Careful they are living in our walls sooner or later, in some banner in another patch there might be two male characters at the same time .

[@prettyfish6747]

@@abolfazlsh8260gooner spotted

[@bigchungus9615]

​@abolfazlsh8260 they're listening but not to those tourists. Kuros doubling down x4 and going on 5 but they still don't get it 😂😂😂 kinda love seeing their turmoil over this 😂😂😂

[@AFraok]

@@bigchungus9615 content like this is usually normal, but hey it's good for the community since they also can call out what they want and what they needed.