DoF and MSM - references 4k

[@sus_stick]

Lore dump/context for y’all: Mirror Islands have structures from DoF still there because the mirror islands take place in a separate timeline where structures survived the toll of time. The Crystalline Castles are castles that were built using Crystalline from within said island. The magical castles are a unique case, as their Crystals originate from the Prism Gate, but that a whole different topic. Hope this helped 👌

[@bradleydevron]

As a note, the Pyrozite crystal was planned for Dawn of Fire, though as of right now it's not implemented in. If that will change, I do not know

[@zwodderk]

@@bradleydevron it probably won't because a new DOF island wouldn't make much sense in current times

[@bradleydevron]

@@zwodderk that’s fair

[@holeofdarn]

“Survived the toll of time.” Barely 😂

[@bradleydevron]

@@holeofdarn They're at least identifiable by those who've seen them in their prime (DoF, even if only via concept art), which is still better than you might think given DoF takes place during prehistoric times

[@alphaghoul]

Ya’know what’s funny? The deconstructor reminds me of the skull cavern from Tinycastle, another elemental breeding game that released almost three months later but is a dead game by now, which is an understatement. I got both of them at the same time and always wondered what would happen if the monsters and creatures were to meet eachother, a man can dream though.

[@reeegie_fazebeeer4944]

Lore is lore,but have yall noticed how this dude 100% dawn of fire?like damn,respect to you.

[@Toadey2012]

Really?

[@Therealkriss]

This can actually show that mirrored islands are just older versions of DoF islands. And also the portal was broken so the monsters could not teleport to outer islands. This means the party island and other ones can be in the Msm universe, but just cannot be found. I dont know, but Msm might make an update about this. The plant, cold and air islands are also one in Dof, but separated in Msm which might explain why they are the first 3 islands Edit:I forgot to explain the castles The castles are just built of the materials of their islands. Example: Air islands castle in Msm is build out of Air islands crystal in Dof. Update: I believe that water island unlocks later in the continent, along with what seems to be earth island. So as in dof, you unlock cold island after plant, then air, then water and then earth just as in msm island order. I hope this clears up anything and I will make more updates if I see new stuff.

[@ollymurphy3757]

the thing under party island is a tadpole of the Glubber titan! “a leviathan-like being that values nothing more than the revered treasures hidden within its bivalve shells” you can find it in the original game in the form of the water island skin Glubber Lagoon

[@Therealkriss]

@@ollymurphy3757 i just noticed that a water island is found later in the game so yea ill fix that

[@NotTheDragon837]

Pretty sure the outer islands were actually confirmed to be the same locations as the Magical Islands we have now. The clouds in cloud Island shifted away, and faerie Island took its place. Bone Island is in the same cave as, well, Cave Island. Space Island literally just blipped out if existance according to the monster handlers, and Psychic Island took its place. Can't remember the reasoning for Light Island taking Party Island but you can look all of these up

[@ollymurphy3757]

@@NotTheDragon837 light island and party island are both said to move freely about the monster world, the glubber tadpole swims and the light island titan (phosphora) follows/is followed by the Aurora Monstralis :)

[@Ketchoop.C]

@@ollymurphy3757 The space island disappeared from space and time, it was then replaced by the Fire Frontier and now called the Psychic island

[@AymenZero]

The fact that all of those are in the mirror island is very mysterious if not terrifying.

[@mandythegrimadventures8964]

makes me wonder... what happened after the 5 continent lands had separated...

[@Its_The_Astro]

Maybe in the mirror dimension the continent split naturally, whereas the regular islands were forced apart.

[@Animal_loving_msm_player]

The garden patch scarecrow has probably been waiting for someone to plant crops for it to grow ever since the continent split apart. Edit: What if we fixed the teleporter on the mirror plant island?

[@FizzyFang]

Then it sees the bakery

[@Tyranitar.]

@@FizzyFang”you darn modern people with your fancy schmancy tech! Back in my day we didn’t have contained heat!

[@notdog6642]

@@Tyranitar. lmao yes they did

[@Tyranitar.]

@@notdog6642 oh right they did Uhhh hold on let me fix it “DARN YOU MODERN PEOPLE WITH YOUR FANCY SHMANCY TECH! BACK IN MY DAY WE DIDN’T HAVE LARGE BAKERIES!”

[@Soul_ofPhosphora]

@Water Wubbox I mean they turned into magical islands so party is light cloud is faire cave is bone space is physic and starhenge is celestial and if there were future islands in dof they would probably be fire islands? or more magical islands like magical sanctum? maybe seasonal shanty or wublin island? there's lots of islands😮‍💨

[@pixelpiekser]

I think this means or implies that the Mirror Islands are inside of the Prism Gate which sucked everything in during the end of the dawn of fire. While the Fire Monsters and some others were already in the Living Core some of the Naturals were also sucked in. This also explains where the Mirror Islands got their crystals from even tho its just these Natural Islands

[@MysteryMusic512]

Makes me wonder what lore implications this could have…

[@Dragon-eh9oq]

Very simple It break It get destroyed Live there for a few months Removed

[@BL0XYST1NG3R]

@@Dragon-eh9oq Very Complicated It Break It get destroyed Live there for a few months Flipped Decorations and Structures Destroyed Removed

[@tainaj7088]

Good way of thinking of it

[@MakiProBro]

This means the mirror islands were part of the original continent long ago before time had a name

[@definitely_notgex1353]

Msm lore

[@Repentrepentrepent-1269]

Old ruins. Old structures. Old crystals. Preserved crafts. And Preserved monsters eggs. It all begin in the past. From all the celestials taking care of there main elements. To the colossals still sleeping in one group. To one celestial still figuring out How the life-formula works and how she can use it. Its has been soo long since the dawn of fire started... And now all we have for memory Of the past. is the ruins in the mirrored islands. Soo much progress has been made along the Years. But still we grow stronger.

[@imcool-ne9vi]

my theory is that the mirror islands are the true islands that the continent was made out of. this also ties to the magical islands. the magical islands are heavily distorted versions of Dof's outer islands. the outer islands have been distorted and the mirror magical may not be fully discovered yet. but they might look only worn down not distorted like the magicals.

[@DellCTRL]

What if the crash of the Starhenge in DoF also impacted the Continent and led to the colossals in MSM?

[@DUSKITISTHEKINGOFROAMS]

To correct you you would be but Instead of that the crash hit the islands too separating them and the one that go to cold island had cold elements making it worse for monsters because they are separated but when gold island is finished they are singing a credit song and a hello song when dandioo sings it’s when they sing credit

[@gebhuh5583]

The Starhenge didn’t crash until later

[@DUSKITISTHEKINGOFROAMS]

@@gebhuh5583 it crashed 1997 I’m guessing then they grew on the element island they went too then it was 2013-2022

[@IanMCgaming]

No starhenge crashed after the collosals were born That explains the trailer for celestial island

[@unaverageavocado159]

The starhenge was supplied with energy from the continent, so after its split the starhenge eventually ran out Leading to the fall towards the surface (celestial island trailer) where it collided with what Is now celestial island

[@thetypicalgnarpianreal]

Here are what i think: The continet in DOF was the actual mirror islands, as there are so destroyed or gone structures yet to remain, this is possibly due to continental drift, due to the reason islands like party island dont exist in my singing monsters; the portal is broken, possibly the mirror islands had sprouted a fungus to make it what it is now, either representing - the actual continent or - seemingly forgotten lands in outer universes. who knows, this is what i think, so you can pop in what you think in the replys, idk

[@rhodewindgang5495]

Hmmm IS JUST A THEORY A MSM THEORY

[@juliocesarcamilo5132]

well the DoF continent splited to become the normal islands but the structures didnt survive the test of time and were completely annihalated meanwhile in another dimension the structures did survive the test of time...but a fungus that apeared to be a pink slime covered the island so the structures where a bit ruined but they didnt become apart of the flora. the outer islands from DoF its a common belief that they where absorbed by the prism gates and out came the titans but thats just a theory all we know is that the outer islands misteriously dissapeared and in the exact same place there was the matching titans and also a few cristals that got built into the magical cristaline castles

[@pizzanado]

It's interesting for sure but I have heard msmpokegamer. Talk about how mirror islands are confirmed to be in a different universe. I'm fairly sure he knows what he is talking about

[@ck7993]

well he kinda knows what he's talking about there but pls dont trust him on msm lore

[@crabmorgan]

The monster handlers confirmed in a live stream that the mirror islands exist in an alternate timeline

[@nz6mh7nsauhm7na3]

@@ck7993 what do you mean? Msmpokegamer is never wrong about anything he says???

[@MarkerManiac]

Just realised, since DOF is a prequel, the "continent" Could've been the collosal underwater. A "Continent" Could be a young colossal.

[@magonakallonmariama]

Now I feel like the mirror islands are the split apart continent

[@DUSKITISTHEKINGOFROAMS]

The mirror islands are the continent.

[@Rareboi_Msm]

@@DUSKITISTHEKINGOFROAMSyes but its in a timeline where the structures survived

[@DUSKITISTHEKINGOFROAMS]

@@Rareboi_Msm Yea so kinda the same

[@benjistyles19]

@@DUSKITISTHEKINGOFROAMSnow I have a question why are the mirror islands colassals there if they are the continents?

[@SackboyLBP]

@@Rareboi_Msm it's*

[@caden7820]

My theory is the mirror islands are the continent islands in the future and the original ones are in the past

[@BL0XYST1NG3R]

Stranger things happened.

[@SilverMSM]

Other way around, bud.

[@Ribeye_sandwich]

@@SilverMSM then why are they babies in dawn of fire and in msm they are adults

[@BL0XYST1NG3R]

@@Ribeye_sandwich theory is that after the continent split apart they flipped. Read the end of mirror plant island’s bio

[@SilverMSM]

@@Ribeye_sandwich They confirmed in an msm live that the baby stages still exist in the original msm lore-wise,they just aren’t seen in game.

[@Chantel_T]

They NEED to have a Prismatic Gates on Mirrors- so you Waste all those Valuable Gems just to do an Island you've Done..

[@Bonehead_Gaming2007]

Its kinda sad seeing all of the structures (except the castles) be broken down and abandoned

[@Spiderboy-wg4pu]

Fr

[@SackboyLBP]

It's*

[@flipadude]

​@@SackboyLBPshut up

[@HaekalDaBombyFan2763]

​@@SackboyLBPIt's alright to say "Its".

[@outerjex]

Good job Evo

[@teamflare1997]

Idk why but seeing the garden scarecrow missing an eye... it's just sad, and no one has farmed anything for years... he hasn't jumped since dof....

[@lunameansmoon_1]

And thus the lore deepens…

[@combopandaa001shorts3]

We will all miss those destroyed items😢

[@Dragon-eh9oq]

The teleportation music sounds so familiar

[@YourCasualChef]

This is not just coincidences this is lore.

[@Ian_montesino1520]

4:05 THAT FITS PERFECTLY

[@alexdragonmonsterleviathan8828]

Оказывается Я не единственный, кто заметил схожесть между Зеркальным Островом Растений и Порталом в Давн Оф Фаер.

[@nobody6312]

dang. never noticed this stuff until i started playing dof

[@nobody6312]

it all makes so much sense though

[@SuperLeono69]

Hello internet and welcome to game theory-

[@bleepingbunny4446]

0:06 why is bro breeding a toe jammer

[@АндрейМелентьев-ц2о]

Спс за видео теперь я всегда буду играть в смс

[@guest12200]

The Lore is everywhere

[@enidotero8190]

My theory Is that the mirror islands which are the core islands from the continent got struck into the mirror dimension and Core island not from the mirror dimension or what’s left of the original ones picked up by colossal

[@SovietUnionRepublics]

It's a bit sad if they grow up

[@Gabolia]

The continent broke into pieces, and became the five natural island, and fire haven. Party, Space, Cloud and Cave island are still alive, Starhenge fell down and its Celestial island now.

[@fabiatch11]

all gangsta till plant island teleporter is lit up

[@Pajanimations]

Ideas: Wishing Well: Backwards version of the Diamond Extractor. Deconstructor: Reverses how an object is made.

[@thedriestpuddle3560]

There’s got to be some lore behind this

[@BumbleBoiMSM]

this means the magical islands and the fire monsters are from the mirror dimension

[@Hummyhumbug]

They have multiple dimensions

[@renotoad]

Ah so the collosals grabbed the different parts of the continent, separated them like lego, and then they put the parts in their head

[@sgtswagmason9013]

This makes me think is the old island just the island in the original msm

[@themobilelord]

And with this most recent update, magical sanctum also has a crystal-based castle.

[@Sweetberriesbeingdug]

THIS MADE ME CRY

[@alexanderwarren1054]

What if the mirror islands used to be the dof islands but over time only Adult monsters were bred so these island slowly fell apart and as they fell apart things changed and islands stared to separate and floated out then the island grew up and turned into adult chlosels

[@judyprice436]

well, here's a whole new planet of lore

[@royhegarty6331]

This makes sense because the continent areas become the mirror islands.

[@Kyriechooki]

I did not know of that!

[@Cheesyedits-v3s]

It’s so sad 😞 seeing all of the old devices from dof just broken

[@CongleMSM]

Theory: the continent was getting split up and destroyed from ethereals, so that means we had to evacuate them onto other islands

[@composingangel6572]

I got a question is dof like the sequel to MSM or is it just sum else I don't know tbh

[@A-Train909]

It's the prequel

[@pracklyy]

the game was released after msm but dof is settled in a time before msm

[@lemonindo2]

Dof and msm is on same universe but dof is story before msm

[@composingangel6572]

@@A-Train909 oh ok I was just confused on that

[@SackboyLBP]

@perf9553 Why is this reply hidden?

[@cuphead8097]

One day matpat will come here and look over the lore

[@tylrexthelastpartypooper891]

It adds to the lore

[@SansOFC01]

THIS IS A JO- MY SINGING MONSTERS REFERENCE!?

[@Deepcut_Shiver]

Why does seeing the destroyed dof structures make me feel nostalgia?

[@johannescoto6926]

the dawn of fire makes sense that all the old stuff or the dawn of fire stuff were not used in a couple of years

[@breadnothere]

I had a stroke reading that

[@TronconiK]

The mirroded islands Is the future of the continent from my singing monsters

[@mrchomikguy]

The lore on what happened with dof in the future. Dof is actually the mirror islands.

[@handlenottaken]

Theory:mirror islands are actually part of continent,during the crash,the structures got destroyed.

[@jonbrawn]

blue stacks gang \/

[@mrbamberyt8158]

Maybe the Mirror Islands hace some sort of connection with the past making the timelines overlap while still having remains of this far past, its like a sonic CD kinda situation, maybe the Mirror Islands are some sort of alternate timeline where the remains of these structures still existed and maybe have some sort of connection to Ethereal Island and Magical Islands though as the Bio says "Stranger Things have happened"-BBB

[@MysteryMusic512]

I wonder if the Cataclysm not only split The Continent, but also created an alternate dimension, that being the mirror dimension?

[@ezriha]

@@MysteryMusic512 Maybe it opened a hole in the ground and random things got sucked in.

[@wellmesojjxt]

Wow good

[@RGofficialchannel-y7d]

Damn. Its sad how when their adults everything’s ruined their childhood of how their adults broke

[@SackboyLBP]

It's*

[@BassMonster-w5o]

When I first noticed one of those I was staring at all Mirror island for hours and I still couldn’t find another one. I never even noticed my Singing Monsters was connected to Dwan of fire stupidly

[@CokePlayz2]

So. The continent is actually in a different time and so it broke into 4 peices. Which created the 4 mirror islands and eventually water island formed and became mirror water island.

[@Anglow506]

The monster on the wishing well disturbs me…

[@Dylan577games]

Dont forget the blue portal! Both in DoF as the portal & in msm as a.. Well portal💀

[@Thomasdatankengine]

HOLD UP, DOES THE SKYSHIP HAVE A NARRP GAUGE WHISTLE?!

[@BassMonster-w5o]

When I first noticed one of those I was staring at all Mirror island for hours and I still couldn’t find another one

[@shevileq]

What if the gems were supposed to represent each island Green: Plant Blue: Cold Yellow/(Whatever it is): Air Black/Gray: Earth

[@diamondzombie3781]

They were

[@diamondzombie3781]

The castles in MSM shown are on different islands

[@Brothepro100]

0:51 What’s this in a gooey reference?

[@JACHJgamedude]

Mammoth on party island sounds like pick my bum

[@KevinGayle-v5r]

AYO

[@KevinGayle-v5r]

AYO

[@BeQuietJackson]

What if the continet used to have a colossal and it reached its hand up grabbed the msm teleporter took it down found its peices then the power of the telepoter killed the colossal leading to the teleporter being complete but no more colossal

[@babishatz6425]

So those structures in dof were at those islands and as with the time the continent broke in the natural islands the structures broke with time and now we saw them in msm?

[@ChipieAnimations]

Wait. Does that mean that the continent was just the past mirror islands? But hey, thats just a theory, A GAME THEORY

[@ALASTOR7023]

Lore: during the contitents falling it seperated and got older and older until it jist became into the mirror islands aand the volcano part of the contineng became fire haven

[@GeorgiaandPetesFamilyChannel]

Theory: what if the mirror islands Are destroyed versions of the dof continent island and maybe there was a disaster and the islands got seperated

[@caeldregold7865]

Well,the island did indeed get separated

[@Amenord2015]

Omg I didn't noticed that

[@danaberry2197]

My theory is simple, since the mirror islands are in a different timeline, maybe the structures stayed instead of being sucked in by the Prism Gate.

[@DragonTheOneDZA]

THIS IS CONFIRMED LORE NOT A THEORY

[@reeeboi1]

Nah the coin and gem count in DoF makes it look like bro’s been hacking.

[@Oblivioncatchesupwithusall]

Now i know all of msm

[@Snowx_x616]

U missed one. It’s the pink s Crystal. It’s a reference to faerie island

[@danoob736]

Put the captions on, you won't regret it

[@danoob736]

@Jillian Matson I told you ;)

[@FuzziPlaysMSM]

I know something cool! The level 9 cold island and The level 19 air island are based off the real game with plant island cold island water island and earth island and fire haven there!

[@YourAverageZiggurab3798]

I think that dof is an alternative reality and mirror island's are the aftermath but the celestials saved the monsters and copied the islands with protectors the colossals and the original islands sunk and that explains the purple stuff which is the islands underwater mold.

[@Ed_Ed2013]

Ok in normal msm the eggs will turn to adults but in msm dof the eggs will be baby's?

[@kn0my]

The dof islands are now the mirror islands.comfirmed

[@Epicyawstrich]

Does this mean that the mirror islands are the real islands that split? Maybe the NOT mirror islands were prototypes which evolved to become better then the mirror islands

[@lamargoodr3800]

Hey there some more lore in celestial island.

[@Draco_VI]

This is what I think of this Mirror islands were the continent they were separated after a long time and the mirror are taken place during dawn of fire

[@Igniteyz6]

One day a astroid hit earth island and split all the islands up into different sections now you can teleport to that isalnd warning scary bit:furcorn eats mammot

[@johannescoto6926]

every old stuff or DoF suff were dumped in years

[@yanzhi6005]

There us still undiscovered msm lore waiting to be found

[@lunabluefifteenXD]

DUDE I SAW A PART WHERE DANDIDOO IS GONNA EAT YELMUT ALIVE💀💀💀💀

[@banderfahed9692]

1:31 جتلهاحر😂😂😂😂خخخخخ😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂خخخخ😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂ختلننهع😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 2:12

[@Buddybluddy]

I love how the continent is a mix of all the natural islands in msm and the cystals from the castles

[@RKMontaneZ]

looks like wondermine got a cave in

[@Kto_Eto_Voobse]

Крч континент раскололся, острова стали жить по отдельности, потом появились их копии, а прошлые острова стали зеркальными Кристаллы, которые использовались для создания украшений, теперь используются для того, чтобы украсить дворец, а сами украшения положили на вершину дворцов

[@rune27]

That just means the continent is just the mirror islands in one piece😊

[@carluciodesousasantos2881]

If that scarecrow was a monster

[@leirbag798]

Why is the Wondermine on the right side of Mirror Cold Island if in DoF it's located on the left side of the Cold Lands?