Dog ACL / CCL Injury: A Non-surgical Approach - 2 Year Update

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This is a follow up to the original video documenting my dogs non-surgical recovery from a torn acl/ccl on her left leg.
The original video: • Dog ACL / CCL Injury: ...

[@sheilamustain2390]

Thank you so much for these videos. I am going through this right now with my girl, identical situation, and this was such helpful and encouraging info.

[@nightwolf252]

How is it now ?

[@rickyazad]

Thank you Steve I just got quoted 3000 for surgery and this video gave me hope. I never leave comments but you deserve a thumbs up

[@canadianroxy]

Thanks so much for the update. She's looking great.

[@Totustuus2022]

You are so wonderful human being! Thank you for give me encouragement to deal with my best friend injury. I am so happy to see your beautiful dog healed. LOVE is the key ingredient I think! and you have shown me how much you love her.

[@stevestrike6867]

If you dog is small it should be a very viable option to heal with the conservative management approach.

[@gummy6114]

Thanks Steve. This video has helped a lot. I hope my 10 year old dog heals as well as your girl did. She seemed happy and healthy

[@stevestrike6867]

How's your dog doing now?

[@gummy6114]

He recovered really well following this advice, got him walking up to a mile again after 4 months. Unfortunately his CCL on his other leg has ruptured now as well, which was always likely after the first one goes. The recovery is slower this time but I'm keeping hope.

[@monakulasic5669]

This is very encouraging. My dog just together legumes and her knee cap. ACL. I am trying the conventional method surgery us very invasive abd she us 11 years old

[@GrimeUK777]

Any updates now further on?

[@sujanany2524]

thank you so much for this video, my 10yr old german shepherd i believe has a partial tear. His limp is not as bad as your dogs limp, but its only been about a week since its appeared. Does your dog still jump at all? like on the sofa or bed? I am trying my best to rest him, hopefully his results will be as promising as your dogs.

[@stevestrike6867]

Hopefully you can allow your dog to heal before the injury gets worse. Once my dog was good enough shape she would jump back up on the bed, into the car, etc.

[@sujanany2524]

@@stevestrike6867 Thank you, my dogs walking around normally with no limp now, he jumps in the car etc but does not like to jump on the sofa or bed anymore. Thanks again for your video.

[@ProdukSin]

Thank you for this, you are assuring all of us of what we already know but you put into practice and shared your experience with us. My dog just recently injured his right leg too. The vet was telling me that he could never run again and I cried all the way home thinking it was going to be the end of his livelihood if I didn't fork over the $6K. But I just bought the same supplements you mentioned along with hemp oil. I'm currently debating on getting a brace, did you use one for her?

[@stevestrike6867]

How is your dog doing now? I did not try a brace. Luckily at the time I was home a lot and could keep her calm.

[@ProdukSin]

@@stevestrike6867 Not much has improved, we keep the walks short and I've been home as well. He takes glucosamine and hemp oil with his food. It seems that the longer he lies down, the more unwilling he is to relax his hind right leg.

[@stevestrike6867]

@@ProdukSin Activity should be restricted to only bathroom breaks during the early stages of recovery. Once scare tissue is able to form around the joint and stability is regained activity can slowly increase. Walking on an unsupported knee is probably what leads to inflammation and stiffness and increases chances for arthritis.

[@ProdukSin]

@@stevestrike6867Noted, and what did you do in terms of stimulating and entertaining your pup during her rehabilitation?

[@stevestrike6867]

Chew toys helped. Eventually she got used to be lazy and learned to sleep more, but also I kept her company much more than usual by being in the same room and even sleeping downstairs for a long time. So we were both bored together.

[@trishnewak]

How long did you keep her on meds? My dog is literally going through the same thing right now. Same leg and all. Hes af the point where hes putting weight on it. I'm concerned about him being on the meds too long. Hes on an anti inflammatory and a pain/sedative. Hes a 1 year old pitbull so hes the sedative to keep him calm because hes so rambunctious. Still I'm not a fan of having him on meds. My vet hasn't pushed the surgery thing at all. Also let me mention, the sedative barely works lol he just harasses me a little less to go outside and play.

[@stevestrike6867]

I don't recall exactly how long I kept the meds going, it was probably around two weeks, but basically I just followed the vet's prescription. Hopefully you pup gets better soon!

[@lakithamaratunga7423]

Thanks a lot Steve! This really helps ♥️ Also, may I know the supplements you used during her recovery?

[@stevestrike6867]

Some info on fish oil: www.dog-swim.com/clinical-services/nutritional-supplements/fish-oil Also glucosamine chondroitin for dogs.

[@lakithamaratunga7423]

@@stevestrike6867 Thank you so much! :D

[@peep14]

during the process of her injury and healing did you ever hear clicking from the injured leg? i was resting my dog then increased activity yesterday and this seems like it was a setback, now hearing a click😞

[@jackverdoni6233]

HI, could be meniscus? With gentle flexion and extension of affected leg, I and my vet could feel, hear clicking. Vet felt it was a meniscus tear, as they often go along with the Ccl tear/rupture. However, now, three weeks later with rest and only walking to go to bathroom (he's a couch potato 13 yr old dog), I don't feel or hear the clicking.

[@teamtruth]

Yeah its really common in this injury. Im 7 weeks into CM with my American Bully (14 months) click was present intermittently, then clicking stopped for 5 weeks straight until I dropped her lead and she sprinted around 10metres and skidded to a stop. The click is back but I'm really doing the most I can to support her through CM. She's on her 2nd hydro session doing amazingly. Set backs are a given just do your best! Good luck with your dog wishing him/her a speedy recovery.

[@stevestrike6867]

Yes, I did hear quite a bit of clicking and popping. It seems to go away over time. It is also discussed on the tiggerpoz website.

[@UCWCDXji3hdkUQsORuS]

Sorry I comments alot because I'm worried that my dog will get worst

[@gypsyfrench7216]

Hi Steve, I keep coming watching your video all the time. I’m desperate and need advices. My French Bulldog had teared her ACL on July 1st. Her right back leg. She’s 11 years old 25pound. I went to two different vets. Both said TPLO but I don’t want to put my senior dog under anesthesia. I found a place where they do acupuncture, swimming sessions and injections in legs. I called them, they said they had healed frenchies but I’m not sure if they healed them after the surgery or without surgery. Do you think I should try this method instead of putting my baby under a risky surgery. I totally know that she will heal well after the surgery and its not even about the price or anything. Its all about my baby’s health. She’s walking like your dog on her injured leg. It happens that when she starts walking fast, she lift her leg but she can totally walk around the house like your dog. She’s very happy and even tho they say she’s in pain, it looks like she’s not. My dog would sleep all day if she’s not feeling well. But she wants to be active all the time. She feels good. I saw you posted your video two years ago. Could you please update and let me know if your dog is still doing great and what would be your advice for us 🥺 Thank you very much!

[@stevestrike6867]

If surgery is not going to be an option than you need to do conservative management really well. Also, 25 pounds is not as big or heavy so that should help the recovery.

[@Kainthemain]

did u try jnee brace?

[@jaymegordon7391]

Hi steve, did you see any arthritis in your dog after this?

[@stevestrike6867]

I always assume some arthritis was going to happen as it does with many injuries to joints, but I did not observe any noticeable signs either.

[@sancarius2544]

My puppy was just hit by a car yesterday and he hops on his left leg . If i send you a video would you be able to tell if its a torn ACL

[@stevestrike6867]

I would take my dog to a vet if he was hit by a car. Feel free upload a video of your dog limping, but it could be limping from any number of reasons.

[@mysweetheartkattindrokshi8025]

Kaise treatment kiya please btaye

[@stevestrike6867]

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[@UCWCDXji3hdkUQsORuS]

Her shoulder injury looks more like my dog injury how much did it take to heal?

[@stevestrike6867]

The shoulder injury on my dog took a couple weeks to get better, but she had the shoulder on and off for many years. Her leg injury took almost a year because I did not know how to help her heal. You could try taking your dog to the vet or taking a some video of her limping and show it here. If your dog is favoring one leg than something is going on and because dogs play rough it is hard for them to rest and heal so be careful it doesn't get worse. Fish oil is available at most stores like CVS and online too. I used a brand called Nature Made because I was already using it myself.

[@UCWCDXji3hdkUQsORuS]

Steve Scarantino I just got pollock fish oil. She is still can do all her thing jump high. I’m trying to rest her for a few days now. But sometimes she sneak to the other room and jump the high bed. I’m wondering if I can walk her. I will try to capture her favoring the other leg. She usually do favor when she start walking after a long laying down

[@kztusa23]

Hi Mr Steve Strike, my 8months old Lab is suffering from this. He got tripped a couple weeks ago and we went ti his vet, gave him pin meds but after his meds looks like it gotten worst. So i went back to his vet and they reffered me to see an Orthopedic because my dog has been diagnosed with partial ACL and that my dog needed a surgery. So I was hesitating which route I’ll be doing? But I would love to try the non surgical way, do you have any recommendations what supplements is good to take? Thank you so much..

[@stevestrike6867]

You'll have to reduce your dogs activity so that it can heal and not become a full tear, which is probably a challenge for a puppy. I'm not an expert on supplements but I feel a healthy diet is the best. My first video on this went into much more detail: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXTJlGWbpdimjsk Good luck!

[@kztusa23]

Thank you for replying Mr. Stevre Strike. 🐾🤗

[@chandniseelochan9397]

You gave me hope and that's all I really needed at this point. Thank you so much!!

[@samgunderson1914]

Thank you for this my dog had ripped his ACL on his right leg about 6 months before this comment and we had surgery which was $4500 and today it happened today on his other leg and are not looking for spending another $4500 thank you for this

[@nightwolf252]

How is it now ?

[@PoeLemic]

Wow, Steve, I am so happy for you. I watched the other video, and you gave me hope that I can give my Oreo back her mobility or nearly 100%. But, man, your dog has come a long way. Kudos and congrats to you. You have such a beautiful pupper that I'd be heart-broken if your little one didn't get their life back. But, a good owner like you gave her her complete life back. GREAT JOB !!!

[@oscaramartinez3]

Thanks. Your video gives me hope for the healing of my female dog.

[@stevestrike6867]

Glad it is a helpful video.

[@SalemSulimanNijmehTradin-nu3yw]

@@stevestrike6867 I need to contact you please am having the same problem n With my baby boy

[@deepu6973]

My dog just got this injury a month ago n got quoted 5000$. The vet said within a year her other leg will give way. Im very concerned. Dont know if she needs surgery or not. Shes 15years old

[@azamudio128]

We also don't want to put our girl through surgery. I'm glad your girl recovered..this video gives us hope that with time, love,and much prayers she can get better..praise God in jesus christ

[@SoulWingz]

Did you ever deal with your dog's personality changing? My dog tore his ccl about 2 months ago and ever since he seems almost depressed. It's worrying the whole family

[@algae_rhythms]

Same for me 😭

[@user-nl3hp8bs4x]

Are there any exercises you used as physical therapy or was it all a matter of resting the dog? Thanks so much Steve!! Great job with your lovely dog!

[@stevestrike6867]

I would only do very short strolls around the yard on-leash. If I could have done any exercise I may have tried to get her in a swimming pool if I had access to one.

[@iheartherivercalling4369]

going through this now with my boy. thank you so much for the videos. between the visual and the narrative timeline it's been very helpful. thanks you

[@rhondareece5919]

My 17 months old Boston terrier is doing the exact same thing. ...back Left leg... she holds it up a lot. Vet says it is a small acl tear. I ordered her drops on tv. A months ago. Not helped much. I give her baby coated asa daily. Try to keep her from running. She’s not been to active for 3 months now. She is so young to look sad & lethargic. What do u think about a leg brace. Vet did not suggest that

[@Hutiyapawithancientknowledge]

How you cured buddy . Please help me . I'm dying from inside seeing the same thing happening in my dog . How it was cured ?

[@Gigi-ti8ru]

My dog hurt himself jumping of 2 steps to do zoomies. Hes 9. Looks like hes hurt his knee samw as your girl. He just had a 2000$ surgery on his eye a month ish ago. I cannot afford another more expensive surgery. Hopefully its not this but if it is im praying hell recover as your girl has. Going to give it a few days. Maybe its something else. Fingers crossed 🤞

[@kelleytomkinson671]

Omg - this gives me hope !! I don't want my girl to have the surgery -- how long did you rest her for ? My Grace is a 2and a 1/2 year old pit bull +

[@MrHydevsDrJekyll]

My dog tore her acl a year ago and partially tore her other acl. It seems like it’s doing much better after almost 2 months. Are there any supplements you gave your dog to help?

[@gautamghosh1903]

Thanks alot steve for giving these updates, my dog is just 2 years old and is suffering, we cant make her go thre surgurt... your video gave us so much info

[@alphacentauri2506]

Thanks for the hope. My dog just did this too...did you tape or brace her leg?

[@goochigoochs3836]

Can please you tell me the products that you used? Thanks!

[@michele2017promastertravel]

Hi there. 4 years after my girl Lucy tore her left rear and having surgery on it right away she tore the right side at 8yo. This time I did your method after watching you go through it. It was far less traumatic for her. We are about a year after injury now and healing just took a turn for the better. She is still limping slightly and favors the left but so much less trauma than post surgery 4 years earlier. Thank you for posting this with all the footage.

[@Patty-qd1lz]

I hope your giving Glucosamine/ MSM and essential oils. All good for the dog/arthritis! Good Luck and thanks for the update.

[@aparnaroy6890]

Thanks Steve for these amazing videos about your dogs injury..my ME Golden Doodle dog of 50 + lb got some soft tissu injury a month back and after 2 weeks of anti inflammatory meds he didn't improve as expected as we might have overdo some of his walking..he is 3 yrs old and couldn't keep him as rested as we should've..:(.. Also he has to be fed upright in chair which doesn't give rest to his injured leg..but I m hopeful that with timr he would get better probably..he is probably at your 9 months dogs heal where he walks with his 4 feets fine but initial wake up from long time sleeping is still a discomfort for him :(.. Any advise from you would be greatly appreciated

[@stevestrike6867]

A trusted veterinarian can tell you if it is full a partial tear. For a full tear they mostly recommend surgery. If your dog is walking okay then he may have a partial tear that needs rest and time to heal, which is difficult for young active dog. Sometimes you just have to be very strict in your methods for reducing activity, like fencing areas off and keeping him on leash when he goes outside. An unhealed partial tear will be susceptible to a full tear in my experience.

[@EstherBritt]

Hello Steve, Can you tell me how long you kept her on anti inflammatory, and pain meds. My dog takes carprofen, and gabapentin. It has been months since her injury.

[@stevestrike6867]

Only a few weeks. I don't think those meds are good to take for long term use.

[@arlee53]

Hi, wondering if you followed Max Tiggerpoz method of recovery and if so, do you still have the approach outlined? His website no longer exists, I'm afraid he is no longer with us? I was in touch with him several years ago for my last dog with the CCL tear.

[@stevestrike6867]

I found an achived version using web.archive : web.archive.org/web/20220208071026/tiggerpoz.com/index.html

[@boscohemi3874]

Thanks for the video Steve! I wish you guys all the Best!

[@emily8985]

My cane corso tore both of his at different times and had TTA surgery a couple weeks after the first and a couple days after the second leg. It is now about 10 weeks after the second surgery and we think he tore it again as he is limping the exact same way. We are not doing the surgery a third time as it is very expensive. Thank you so much for this video. It definitely makes me feel a lot better and hope that he will be better with time. Hopefully haha

[@petpsychic]

super cool to see thank you!

[@8aleung]

How is your dog now?

[@LuluW810]

Thank you so very, very much Steve! We are doing the same with our dog and seeing results already. Keeping her in a confined area and short walks.

[@mariellagarcia8992]

Lulu hi, I was wondering how your dog is doing? Did she get surgery or are you trying the natural way. My Girl Rooney is scheduled for surgery tomorrow but this video is making me rethink the surgery.

[@algae_rhythms]

Wondering over how long did you keep your dog confined?

[@joshanderson924]

How did it go?

[@jonathanalexander7363]

Thanks for these videos!👍🏾

[@RunAgainRover]

I'm happy she did so well. I'm curious if the increased muscle mass in her right hind leg isn't because that side has gotten stronger. Perhaps the right side has normal muscle mass and the symptomatic left leg has muscle atrophy because she's not bearing as much weight on it. Our dogs can sometimes appear to bear weight on the injured side as though the leg is 100%. But if we had them walk on a force plate that actually measures multi-directional forces from one side to another, we might notice a vast difference from side to side.

[@sissi8610]

Thank you, this gives me hope for my neighbour's dog.

[@jessirae1324]

Thank you for posting this. My 14-yo girl's CCL ruptured yesterday morning. It's heartbreaking. She's really too old for surgery (arthritis is pretty bad, so recovery would be too hard on her). This gave me hope!

[@maureenjones7532]

Hi Jess my boy is 12 and also injured his two weeks ago. Wish your girl well.

[@mae1884]

@@maureenjones7532any updates ? my pomeranians hip dislocation 2 days ago, i’m stressing because we still don’t know if we should give her surgery or not. how is your dog doing ?

[@amira1208]

I wonder how your dog doing now? Please keep update 🙏

[@melody1139]

My dog just turned 2 years old and he has had a partial tear in his left knee and a full tear in his right knee for about a year now. We ended up bringing him to a vet who agreed to make a "cast" of both legs and we sent the casts to a company in Pennsylvania called My Pet's Brace.. (its about 700-800 dollars per brace for a dog between 70lbs and i believe 140lbs) I've been using the brace for about 2 months on his right leg only (because you can tell how uncomfortable he is with both braces at the same time) Currently we are stuck in a fucking ice-age, so if we survive winter we are planning on traveling to Pennsylvania so they can look my dog over in person and make whatever adjustments to the braces

[@mmfb7479]

Hey there melody, I was wondering how well the brace had worked for you and your dog? My dog has a full tear and I am debating on a brace for him. Thanks hope you see this!

[@SalemSulimanNijmehTradin-nu3yw]

Hello i have the same problem with 11 yrs 9.5 kg please I need to contact you to know how to help my boy with cal send me your contact

[@melissau8727]

Thank you for sharing these videos! You've given me hope for my 3 1/2 year old Rottie. She has a partial tear on her left leg; it happened about 10 months ago. She gets better and then has setbacks like you described. She is very active and loves to play so resting her is going to be difficult but I'm certainly going to try. It's so hard to see her hurting!

[@mrs.i.one12]

How is she doing now? I’m going through this with my almost 5 year old Rottweiler. We’re 4 months in and she was doing she well and now we have a little setback.

[@joshanderson924]

How did it go?

[@joshanderson924]

​@@mrs.i.one12How is it going now?

[@bogumia1313]

Thank you.your videos make me stronger with my decision. I will heal my dog injury naturally

[@strokesurvivor8919]

Thanks so very much, my staffy 10 months and is showing not as bad as your, it got better after 1 month on lead, she got better, so I let her play after 1 hour she started limping again. After three days she wasn’t limping. But I’m dubious of letting off the lead again. Any advice, I haven’t got insurance either.

[@marianking5727]

Hi Steve I have a German shepherd I first took her to vets with how she was sitting with her leg sticking out to the side, we tried treadmill she was doing well , she then slipped and it was physio day because she was holding her leg up saw vet and it was all got to have the surgery ,. I've been looking at several options and I don't think I can put my beautiful girl through surgery as some have problems after surgery. I am going to try what you did with your beautiful girl ..

[@dfwjac]

The risk is arthritis at this point, and lucky the other back leg CCL didn't blow, from what I have read.

[@10pjesus]

At any point in the 2 years did your dog’s knee make a popping sound while walking? I’m worried that my boy Dexter may have worsened his tear and now the meniscus is wearing out…

[@stevestrike6867]

Yes, I did hear a popping noise and that eventually went away.

[@cameroncook3863]

Ugh I'm dealing with this right now. I'm going to worried every time he runs in the future

[@johnwolf1475]

1 week into a tear.. my male feeling better.. cant walk on it , but hobbles.. unfortunately I'm in rocky terrain.. and the meat head insists on waking in the rocks, vs the less rocky road.. im deep in the forest by Flagstaff.. thanks for the video...tomorrow a brace arrives..

[@suzanneraymundo5835]

Thank you for this. I'm very worried about my dog right now bec he's showing signs of partial acl tearing.

[@andrapriboi7480]

Steve, thank you for posting this update. My 10 year old lab is in a very similar situation with Kim and we are 4 months into our CM. Similar with your story we've had some setbacks but we are learning to be patient. After how many months would you say that you had your dog in the state that she is now? Was it 2 full years of CM? Thank you.

[@stevestrike6867]

It took about a year to get to where she is in this video, but about 6-8 moths before she was consistently using the leg and not having any more significant setbacks.

[@andrapriboi7480]

Thank you so much for sharing this. This brings me some hope as we've had a more significant setback recently but we are hopeful. Once again thank you so much for posting this update.

[@MusicGAME913]

How is your dog doing? My 12 y/o lab just injured his ACL (CCL). I'm weighing my options, I really don't want to put him through a surgery at his age.

[@stevestrike6867]

There are many factors to take into consideration to make the decision. For me the non-surgical approach was okay because I had enough time to help her through the recovery. For some people surgery is better because it gets the dog back on their feet faster. If you can successfully restrict your dogs activity for the recovery to protect from further injury you can probably handle it. Good luck.

[@gnmrsmuir]

I’m in the same situation with my rescue lab mix. My dog has a heart condition and even if I wanted the surgery, it’s not an option. I do appreciate your post immensely as I will be doing the more natural method to help her. My Maisy injured herself chasing a squirrel also. Your dog looks awesome and I hope this works for my girl. I did start her last 5 days on treats with cbd for the inflammation. I also started walking her and today played 5 min with ball but I am concerned with the popping I hear when she’s on our walks. Like the other comments, your video has given me the encouragement I needed. Thank you!!!

[@TigerDanger82]

So happy to see her doing so well. Your video has giving me hope with my dog. THANK YOU!

[@jobydog8399]

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[@stevestrike6867]

Thanks and glad the video is helpful!

[@felicialsf]

Thank you for your sharing. My dog also have hip problem. Took her to the Vet. Had x-ray. Bone all ok and healthy. Two vet check double check yet couldn't tell what actually happen to her hip. It could be some muscle tear. They give her pain killer and advice me to let her take some glocosamine daily. Now she is in week 2 plus. Will monitor her healing till week 8 to 10 see how her progress. My dog is 8years old and is a rottweiler breed.

[@locktaviabye6662]

How is she doing? Thank you for these videos it's really great to see such the entire journey.

[@proudmary2296]

Who needs an expensive vet with a guy like you around.

[@eddgong]

She's beautiful Steve , she reminds me of my Bailey we lost in 201) ,a Lab pit mix , and that once in a lifetime dog . Right now we are going to follow your approach Im so glad found your video wish you twop continued great results

[@CVRCI]

Did you use any type of bracing or splint?

[@sindynero420]

Thankyou very much my dog is going through this right now i watch your videos and it gives me hope!!!

[@christinependleton3461]

Thanks for sharing this!!!! Very Helpful!!!!

[@z0074]

Great update thank you for video

[@annaburns5382]

this is good news for you and your dog. thanks for the update

[@pawsup_n_boops]

This Is So INSPIRING! I'm Gonna Follow My Heart/Gut On This & Do As U Have Done! Either Way There Will Be Recovery Time...But Non-Invasive & Given The Fact My Babies Are 13 Yrs Old & $$$$ Concerns - Keeps Me Diligent In Being A Teachable, More Knowledgeable Pet Parent...Paws Up 2 U & Ur BabyGirl - Kim...(@3:37 Of Video) Aaliyah Doesn't Lift Her Leg Like That - She Just Sqats & Backs Up To Stuff (LOL) To Mark It & Takes Her Time On Walks 2...Her Brothers Are Fast Walkers ;-)

[@mary_asmr5]

How is your dog now?

[@algae_rhythms]

Any update please? 🤗

[@sn5255]

Any updates?

[@CarmenGonzalez-xq9fu]

Was her ACL Torn?!!

[@mary_asmr5]

Can she go for good walks? My Pitbull did this in august and I haven’t gotten her surgery, she does good some days but then other days it’s like she runs too fast then she is limping again! Ugh I’m soo torn on what to do. She used to go on 3 mile walks I don’t know if she will be able to do that again. She is 11 years old but doesn’t act like it. Hmm I see your girl walking good as I’m writing this. Glad she is doing good. I’ll give it some more time.

[@stevestrike6867]

As it was my first time dealing with this injury I did not fully understand how much activity restriction was required during the first couple of months and so I probably let my dog get too active to too soon and I had a similar experience to that what you described. For me it was like a whole year before I felt my dog could go on long walks in the hilly neighborhood. It sounds like your dog is doing a little too much too soon and her knee joint has not stabilized enough to run around.

[@sn5255]

@@stevestrike6867are there signs of arthritis

[@mirrorimage7599]

Hi I’m going through a similar situation with m husky. He’s completely lifting his right hind leg up in the air. It’s been 4 days so far. He is putting the slightest bit of weight on it as the days go buy. Vet says it’s a possible ACL injury but he has not been X-ray yet. Is it a good idea just to give him rest for now. When your pup first hurt her leg. What did you do afterwards. Please if you can or anyone that has been in this situation respond to me as I’m very stressed atm. Thank you.

[@stevestrike6867]

Sorry for never responding to you. I hope things turned out okay in the long run.

[@tedwards8267]

Thanks so much Steve - almost word for word my experience with my 3 year old kelpie-x Raff. Unfortunately for me I didn't come across the Tiggerpoz website until a few months after Raff's injury, hence don't think we restricted his activity as much as we should in the early stage. It's healing slowly but now I'm confused as to whether some of the strange positions he holds his leg in when resting (injured leg stretched straight out when lying down, leg flopping inwards when sitting) are a result of insufficient stability of the joint (and therefore indicating he still needs further strict restriction of activity) or caused by muscle atrophy and therefore that we should start to add in some stairs etc. Just wondering if any of this sounds familar? Really, really appreciate you making this public and so clear and encouraging too. Beautiful dog and lucky to have you! Many thanks Sam in Oz

[@stevestrike6867]

The leg outstretched when lying down sounds familiar but I didn't notice leg flopping inwards when sitting. The muscle loss was very noticeable but eventually muscle returned.

[@justinapereira]

Thanks for sharing your dog's story. This is a recent injury for my dog, Lucky - same injured leg as your dog. It's been about a month since we first brought him to the vet but they didn't give us a complete diagnosis. He was on anti-inflammatory meds as well and that seemed to do the trick, but again he is limping. I'd prefer a nonsurgical approach for right now and keeping him to restrictive activities. You noted that you used fish oil for her. What kind did you use and how would you dose it to her? Any advice is greatly appreciated!

[@stevestrike6867]

My dog weighs 80 pounds and gets 4 360mg fish oil gels a day plus 1 400 IU vitamin E gel.

[@justinapereira]

@@stevestrike6867 that's for the reply! What is the brand that you use?

[@stevestrike6867]

Nature Made

[@mary_asmr5]

How is your dog now?

[@justinapereira]

@@mary_asmr5 He underwent surgery back in 2020 and fully recovered! Unfortunately, we are dealing with neuropathy issues in recent times so working through this. He's my 13 y/o baby

[@jasmith5298]

what exactly did you do to rehab her leg?

[@blackshepherdschio]

Thank you

[@carolslupe2200]

Thank you for posting. My dog was put on meloxicam and cbd oil. I will look into the other supplements you recommended. I was wondering about the brace that someone had mentioned. Was there ever any mention what type?

[@stevestrike6867]

Sorry I never researched or tried the brace options because they seemed a little difficult to put on and might be uncomfortable for the dog so I would have always been putting it on and taking off. I focused on just keeping my dog's activity to minimum for many weeks and then slowly increased it.

[@templar.]

so you never used a brace for her hind leg? i hear popping in my dog's right, back leg and it makes me shiver every time.

[@stevestrike6867]

I heard that popping sound for the first several weeks. I think it eventually went away as the scare tissue built up around the knee joint. Good luck! And no, I never tried a brace.

[@elsievaenz9531]

I love the update

[@jennyr8224]

Steve, how is she now? My beagle mix is having the same issue and my vet is telling me that surgery is the only option. I want to try everything possible before saying yes to surgery.

[@stevestrike6867]

Did you go through with surgery? How's it going now?

[@jeremyh5118]

thanks for sharing steve.

[@UCWCDXji3hdkUQsORuS]

Update with my dog. The dog doctor said she have a mild case of arthritis in her front legs. It's really sad because shes only 3 years old

[@stevestrike6867]

Sorry. Hopefully some natural things like CBD may help.

[@assbreaker624]

Thank you so much for your videos , huge motivation for me and my dog

[@MegaCandy1979]

My Doberman was running and yelped out. Same leg as your dog. Took her to vet every week for a month. They could not confirm what it is. Now 2.5 months later her inner knee is swollen. Vet and i did not notice this to begin with. Was your dogs inner knee swollen?

[@stevestrike6867]

I never noticed any swelling. Did you ever find out what was wrong?

[@MegaCandy1979]

@@stevestrike6867 they did a few X-rays but couldn’t see anything. She seems to be doing so much better now. They wanted me to take her to a specialist but I didn’t have the money.

[@amyney1434]

This gives me so much hope without surgery, especially because I have a rather large Rottweiler as well! Thank you for the update.

[@joshanderson924]

How did it go?

[@CVRCI]

One of my dogs dislocated his hock joint and ligament is torn. The vet is recommending surgery, but I want an alternative to surgery. Is this more or less what happened to your dog? Thank you!

[@stevestrike6867]

Just a ligament injury that I knew of.

[@CVRCI]

@@stevestrike6867 thank you!

[@Countingondoubletrouble]

Is there a way to contact you privately

[@stevestrike6867]

Just keeping conversations in the comments for now, thank you.

[@reginaweckermann8873]

Thanks for the video. Very helpful and gives me hope. It's now 6 months that my Bernese Mountain Dog had the same injury. Since then ups and downs. Which supplements did you give to your dog?

[@stevestrike6867]

I gave her 4 fish oils (Nature Made 360mg), vitamin E, glucosamine for dogs, and made sardines part of her daily diet (became on of her favorite foods).

[@joshanderson924]

I also have a Bernese and we're now facing these challenges you faces years ago. I'm curious if the non surgical approach was successful for you and if you have any other info

[@annecarol6551]

Hi, has she developed arthritis since?

[@stevestrike6867]

Not that I can tell, but I would assume some arthritis is unavoidable and probably shows up more so later in life.

[@itzdor7028]

Please give me your opinion. Is it possible to use CM on a dog with two torn back CCLs? my Golden Retriever (very big, 116 lbs, not fat) tore his back left CCL three days ago and I can tell his right one is about to go too. He was seen by an ER vet who put him on Gabapentin 600 mg. We will see his vet tomorrow and he will add an anti inflammatory, plus I just made a batch of Tumeric Golden Paste. I can’t afford surgery which I am sure he will recommend and I can’t but him down, he’s my everything. If the second one goes, I don’t know how I can get him up. How quickly might the anti-inflammatory work? Will it be enough to allow him to walk with my help. I don’t care how long his recovery takes, I just don’t want him in pain. We are a pet therapy team for the past eight years and he is so wonderful with everyone. Any thoughts, suggestions would be appreciated.

[@stevestrike6867]

If you have a diagnosis already I would consider holding off another trip to the vet only because the car ride and activity may be extra stress on the other leg. But i understand the desire to get the anti inflammatories as well. Yes, the tiggerpoz website in which I got most of my information from was written by a person whose dog tore both ccl’s of a large dog so I do believe it is possible.

[@itzdor7028]

Thank you Steve, I’m going to give it my all. Do you know anything about leg braces? Might they help? They are expensive too? May I continue asking you questions as I go forward?

[@stevestrike6867]

I don't have personal experience with the dog leg braces but some people report to have success with them. Feel free to post questions here, I try and reply when I can.