Dogfighting 101

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Ward Carroll

Ward Carroll

Күн бұрын

Ward goes over the fundamentals of air combat maneuvering including details about the following:
- knowing your airplane's performance characteristics
- knowing the enemy's airplane performance characteristics
- developing G tolerance
- one circle fights
- two circle fights
- vertical fights (aka "flat scissors")
- bug out techniques
- note taking methods between engagements
- TACTS trailer protocol
He also reviews the proper "chalk talk" symbols and how Top Gun crews instruct students how to debrief flights.
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@aviatorlewski9310
@aviatorlewski9310 3 жыл бұрын
As my Pa tells me. "Dogfighting is still a valuable skill. Just as martial arts is a valuable skill for infantry, despite people having guns."
@andrewvida3829
@andrewvida3829 3 жыл бұрын
Well stated. I've been in bujutsu training since I was 13. I am now 63, and while I carry a sidearm almost everywhere I go, the training remains invaluable, both physically and in terms of mental control. And if the gun ever fails, best to have some options handy.
@shengyi1701
@shengyi1701 3 жыл бұрын
Unless you’re Indiana Jones who shot the guy with a sword!
@kerbalairforce8802
@kerbalairforce8802 3 жыл бұрын
The door kicker who had to kill a man with an MRE spoon would agree with you
@reallifeengineer7214
@reallifeengineer7214 3 жыл бұрын
@@kerbalairforce8802 OMG. I didn’t know about that story. Had to google it. That’s hard core. A more difficult one to pull off than “a f-ing pencil”.
@wongtong754
@wongtong754 3 жыл бұрын
Martial arts is a valuable personal skill but won’t have a significant impact on military success.
@erichumann8058
@erichumann8058 3 жыл бұрын
"Dogfighting is dead." Isn't that the reason the F-4 originally came without a gun, but a few years later they are equipped with a gun and Top Gun is started to better teach dogfighting.
@trekkeruss
@trekkeruss 3 жыл бұрын
The F-4 is also why the F-8 became colloquially know as "The Last Gunfighter."
@Inspadave
@Inspadave 3 жыл бұрын
Of course, that was back in the day when winders had to either shoot at the read of the aircraft, or keep hiim illuminated whilst a Sparrow hunted him down.
@Grendel53
@Grendel53 3 жыл бұрын
Robin Olds talked about this. The hubris and stupidity. Col. Olds "Whaddya mean there's no gun?!" Pointy headed boffin "You won't need a gun, Col. Dogfighting is dead. It's all going to be at long range with missiles." It was fantastic. Couple of years later, he's in a furball in his F-4 and he's telling his RIO "Now, Mike, we are NOT dogfighting." What a badass.
@andrewkidd2021
@andrewkidd2021 3 жыл бұрын
The idea of merging to go to guns would be the last resort and also would require your opposition to be in the same position.
@erichumann8058
@erichumann8058 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewkidd2021 Not the point.
@daddy_marx6823
@daddy_marx6823 3 жыл бұрын
Legitimately some of the best military aviation content on youtube, can't wait until we get to see you play some DCS
@ZacharyCox
@ZacharyCox 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see him RIO the F14 for a good DCS pilot.
@ilyakipnis7853
@ilyakipnis7853 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZacharyCox Growling Sidewinder better find someone that's an F-14 specialist then =P
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 3 жыл бұрын
Love this Ward!
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Rick! Always awesome to get your take here.
@Lokrion
@Lokrion 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Rick! Never knew you were into military aviation.
@markelliott585
@markelliott585 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Colorado, Rick AND Ward! I am SO glad y'all are friends...student-teacher? How about convincing Ward to break out his editions of John Lennon's and Jimmy Page's guitars soon? I gotta believe there's something to the Marshall tech and the photos. Ta dahlings-love BOTH your shows!
@markelliott585
@markelliott585 3 жыл бұрын
@@WardCarroll Greetings from Colorado, Rick AND Ward! I am SO glad y'all are friends...student-teacher? How about convincing Ward to break out his editions of John Lennon's and Jimmy Page's guitars soon? I gotta believe there's something to the Marshall tech and the photos. Ta dahlings-love BOTH your shows!
@av8bvma513
@av8bvma513 3 жыл бұрын
@@WardCarroll Yeah, 'Beater' is fixin' to hose off a teeny squirt of twenty on a really choice angle-off and watch the poor schmuck fly right into it!
@1pilot34
@1pilot34 3 жыл бұрын
I can't get enough of this. The worst thing about your videos is that there's not enough
@Midcon77
@Midcon77 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@raphaelputtini9232
@raphaelputtini9232 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed too! I feel like I'm back at school... and lovin'it!
@CMIKAEL1172
@CMIKAEL1172 3 жыл бұрын
@@raphaelputtini9232 The same goes for the books as well. I can't get enough.
@1pilot34
@1pilot34 3 жыл бұрын
@@raphaelputtini9232 so true.
@martinh4630
@martinh4630 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed - just love these videos. Even better when I watch again.
@joshuaboyle7585
@joshuaboyle7585 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Carroll, Thank you for your service to our country and thank you for taking the time to make these excellent videos. You are very well spoken and have the Feynman-like ability of explaining very complex things in ways that anyone can understand. My wife's grandfather was a US Navy carrier pilot in the '60s and '70s. I've been an airplane geek all my life and have been able to get some very interesting stories from him (he flew A-6s into hurricanes for Project Stormfury.) My Wife has told me that he never talked much about his Navy experiences before and she's heard far more about them since we've been married. But my knowledge is still quite limited since I've never personally experienced that life. After watching a number of your videos in the last few weeks, I had a lot of questions for him and we spent around an hour yesterday talking about things you talked about in your videos. In particular, he told me one quite personal and tragic story yesterday that seemed really good for him to tell. I don't think he would have told me had I not gained some good knowledge from your videos and been able to discuss things more in depth. So I don't think I can adequately thank you for making that possible. But you have my deepest thanks. And I did just order Punk's War as I think that's the least I can do to express my thanks. And I'm very much looking forward to reading it.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, Joshua. Very special.
@JustinMacri007
@JustinMacri007 2 жыл бұрын
@@WardCarroll you seem like a nice guy
@CalifornianOnEEurope
@CalifornianOnEEurope 2 жыл бұрын
@@WardCarroll as i listen to you i wonder what skills a young kid needs to be a great pilot...you have great oral skills ...but some minimsl traits of an engineeer
@tomc6086
@tomc6086 3 жыл бұрын
Dogfighting is the most fascinating (and frustrating) subjects. Your explanations are perfect. Please continue and take us into the weeds on this!
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Tom.
@AmericanAbsolute
@AmericanAbsolute 3 жыл бұрын
Just some info or intel for those who may not know Fox stands for fire.. Fox 1 2 and 3 jargon if it wasn't explained. Fox 1 - Indicates launch of a semi-active radar-guided missile (such as the AIM-7 Sparrow). Fox 2 indicates launch of an infrared-guided missile (such as the AIM-9 Sidewinder) Fox 3 Indicates launch of an active radar-guided missile (such as the AIM-120 AMRAAM and AIM-54 Phoenix). I'm sure it was explain that one time but because I'm new to the channel I haven't had a chance to watch all the videos. Please don't take this as an insult to anyone. I happen to have a deep passion for this and I can't help myself engaging in conversation. Thank you and thank you for what you do
@jimz68
@jimz68 3 жыл бұрын
I like that you are explaining dog fight techniques with a Les Paul and Marshall in the background. Two types of Rock 'n Roll !! Thanks for another great video!
@kenfloyd6066
@kenfloyd6066 3 жыл бұрын
And a Rickenbacker!!!
@roadgeneral
@roadgeneral 3 жыл бұрын
Ex-Navy enlisted here (a long time ago). Mr. Carroll, I would have loved to been under your command. I was a photo intelligence guy. Now it's called Intelligence Specialist and split into variants. Your leadership skills come through loud and clear. Thanks for taking us along for the ride.
@benmcphee4401
@benmcphee4401 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t even begin to explain how much I love your channel and what you’re doing here. :)
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ben!
@NJ-Tech
@NJ-Tech 3 жыл бұрын
Im certain at this point you will have the attention of a lot of DCS sim pilots, via you fatastic real-world experience content! It would be incredible to see you show us humble simmers some tips in the sim itself. Especially as so many struggle with the RIO role! Many Thanks, NJ.
@daddy_marx6823
@daddy_marx6823 3 жыл бұрын
agreed
@funkyfpvtb7541
@funkyfpvtb7541 3 жыл бұрын
@@mencantbewomen I have a server where he can do the class and can use my discord as well. @ Ward Carroll would you be willing to do this?
@icecold9511
@icecold9511 3 жыл бұрын
Did you see Ate go up against Growling Sidewinder? GS won round 1. Then Ate got a feel for it and gave him a real ass whooping.
@belka_standard1185
@belka_standard1185 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, you got my attention Lmao.
@francisdrelling4060
@francisdrelling4060 3 жыл бұрын
The reason why they refrain from disclosing too much is because the enemy is watching as well.
@ddiver7908
@ddiver7908 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. thank you for your 101 lesson..now i'm going to apply it to DCS
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Roger that!
@tassisfrois
@tassisfrois 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, Baby!!
@av8bvma513
@av8bvma513 3 жыл бұрын
"Just the facts, Ma'am!" You sir, are very, very highly valued and appreciated. Keep it up.
@wingedfreedom6226
@wingedfreedom6226 3 жыл бұрын
"Dogfighting is dead because our missiles and planes are awesome!" Oh oh oh! I've seen this one before!
@AmericanAbsolute
@AmericanAbsolute 3 жыл бұрын
Not dead.. far from it..
@leeshelton8023
@leeshelton8023 3 жыл бұрын
23 yrs in the army has remained me never discount anything
@daddy_marx6823
@daddy_marx6823 3 жыл бұрын
I mean yeah, but there's also a massive difference between early Vietnam days where Phantoms were slinging 5G sidewinders and Aim 7s which had an 80 percent fail rate all the while having avionics which, by today's standards, may as well be from 1000 years ago. Today an Aim120D can reliably nail a maneuvering target at 30 miles and you have high off boresight missiles like 9Xs which make going into merges extremely dangerous if not downright impossible (the fight is likely gonna be over within the first two turns). All the while missile reliability and sensors are becoming near unbeatable. ACM may not be dead, but the likely hood of 1. going into a merge and 2. that dogfight going on longer than the first fox 2 shot is becoming smaller and smaller, so much so that investing time and energy training these skills may not be as useful as it once was.
@kenchen704
@kenchen704 3 жыл бұрын
@@daddy_marx6823 you stop dogfighting a plane, and you start dogfighting the missile. Still need the mastery of energy maneuvers to live another day.
@slammerf16
@slammerf16 3 жыл бұрын
​@@daddy_marx6823 It's a bit like an infantryman learning Karate. If you end up taking on someone with your bare hands you're doing it wrong - and probably about to die.
@edfeifert9838
@edfeifert9838 3 жыл бұрын
All you guys are bad ass warriors. Thank you for being the best and watching over the guys like me that can only fly a guitar.
@damonb6993
@damonb6993 3 жыл бұрын
All these details explaining all the duties of a fighter pilot is really great! I’m loving all these videos. Thanks...
@lucasner463
@lucasner463 3 жыл бұрын
Does the RIO get thrown around the cockpit as the guy up front is doing his "pilot shit"? As he is rolling, pitching, etc... would you be "unprepared" for the maneuver and thus get tossed around? I've always been curious how aware ypu were of what your pilot was about to do...at those times where you weren't telling him what to do.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
This is another reason crews have to coordinate, BUT RIOs need to be ready for anything.
@Kraken9911
@Kraken9911 3 жыл бұрын
It's like how you never get car sick if you're driving but ten minutes as a passenger and your stomach starts churning. I can't even imagine how tough you gotta be to ride as rio/wso in a fighter jet.
@ricbish
@ricbish 3 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown of the one/ two circle fight! Love this stuff! Thanks….
@dannybouchard5520
@dannybouchard5520 2 жыл бұрын
Your thoughts on the beginning of aerial combat would be of great interest (we are about the same age I think.not making a wise crack)who Immalman was .The immalman loop,hun in the sun etc. Would love to see your thoughts on different planes great and not so great. Thanks Daniel Bouchard
@Wrelllo
@Wrelllo 5 ай бұрын
as a 14 year old sim pilot with a dream to become a navy pilot, this was an extremely fun and helpful experience. it’s an honor to learn from a real pilot, a pilot with tomcat experience for that matter. i really appreciate you posting and inspiring me to do what i always dreamt of doing
@douglaskennedy6695
@douglaskennedy6695 4 ай бұрын
He’s was a Naval Aviation Toncat RIO.
@JW-ot5zq
@JW-ot5zq 3 жыл бұрын
This is my new favorite channel. You’re too cool Ward. A master at explaining
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Thx, JW!
@dennismurray4999
@dennismurray4999 Жыл бұрын
I was an F-4E Crew Chief in my first life. I was very used to seeing the RIO in your world, WISO in mine, treated as a third class person. I love your channel and the way you speak as a Crew dog in a crew airplane, not as a second or third class citizen. Stay Safe and enjoy the ride!
@ainsleystones4600
@ainsleystones4600 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ward. That was really interesting! As someone who really wanted to be a fighter pilot in the RAF but was distracted by Rock 'n' Roll (to the point that it became my job) I'm also enjoying the musical equipment in the background! :) :)
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ainsley. Rock on, brother.
@natural-born_pilot
@natural-born_pilot 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ward for an interesting video. Your discussion using the g techniques to prevent blood flow to your lowers brought memories to me when I was on active duty in the USAF. I had just started a new career field as a Tow Systems Operator. I was a GIB operating a tow reel in the F-101B and during training and preparation for this task was instructed on the G techniques. At the time the Air Force referred to it as ‘Grunt Breathing’. It took a little practice but definitely worked. I say this because I’ve experienced the grey tunneling and even complete black out. We mainly flew straight and level towing an 8’ long missile target 5+ miles behind us for air to air firing but when the F-15 first came out it needed an aerial target to certify its gun. We were provided a tube and fiberglass gunnery target one third scale of a fighter that we had to configure for use with our Voodoo (a whole nother story). Our mission scenario was a tight 5+ G turn into the head oncoming Eagle for the shot. During the mission briefing It was always covered that the pilot would clearly give me a predatory command before executing the 5G turn. This would signal me to begin the grunt breathing before going into the turn. It worked great until the time I flew with a pilot new to this mission and he forgot to to give me that prep for the turn. The aggressive snap had my helmet bounce off the side of the canopy and in attempting to grunt breath and hold my head upright was too late, tunnel vision and OUT! Important factor i know your more than familiar with is starting the technique before the G’s. If your behind that power curve forget about it.
@kayakutah
@kayakutah 3 жыл бұрын
I remember, almost 40 years ago when I flew the F-14A discussing Basic Fighter Maneuvering with my father, who, almost 40 years before THAT flew the P-51. Things change, of course, but a lot of that BFM remains the same. Sow
@crabmansteve6844
@crabmansteve6844 Жыл бұрын
What you said about the chaos of a battle and "someone (a bandit) is always going to get through" is one of the core tenets of bomber doctrine. They say "A bomber is *always* going to get through." Not meaning all of them, but you can't successfully defend each one, someone *WILL* get through.
@testpilotrowdy
@testpilotrowdy 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos, Mooch...
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Rowdy. Hope you guys are well.
@SunShine-yd5xu
@SunShine-yd5xu 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Amazing fighter pilot. He really knows how to transfer his knowledge. Above all, the way he talks can penetrate a stone.
@DSherman911
@DSherman911 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Could listen to you talk about this for hours, Mooch. Speaking of, just read how Spud go his callsign. Couldn’t stop laughing. Willing to bet a big part of that story is true. We need an episode on how you got yours, please. Thanks so much.
@slayerx009
@slayerx009 3 жыл бұрын
Goodness Ward! I came across your chnl while playing Ace Combat 7 yesterday. I have not stopped watching your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowlege great man! I grew up dreaming about being a pilot, have a collection of scale model fighter jets, but I then at 17 I joined the Army and became Infantry, Scout/Sniper and later a Bradley Gunner. I grew up in Puerto Rico so, watching jets, helos and the occasional "UFO" 😂 moving around near Roosevelt Roads, Ft Allen, Santiago, or Ramey was kind of normal. Now days, I enjoy listening and watching videos about all theese topics! Thanks again and a big Army Hooah! for you! I'll keep watching. Thanks for your service!
@tacoenvy
@tacoenvy 3 жыл бұрын
Man your killing it with these videos, keep up the awesome work Mr. Carroll👊
@nicolaeionescu6538
@nicolaeionescu6538 3 жыл бұрын
Man I'm an architect and the closest I ever got to military aviation, besides going to air shows, was playing some Lock on back in the day, but I find your art so fascinating and fun to watch. Thank you so much for doing this.
@nizloc4118
@nizloc4118 2 жыл бұрын
Nice pull! Lock on, air combat Great old game
@Blackcloud_Garage
@Blackcloud_Garage 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I just ordered two copies of your book, one for myself and one for a gift.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much, Shane!
@DBravo29er
@DBravo29er 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating. So intensely interesting to me. Just wow. Great job, Ward!
@xenaandzenafromsanbernadin3807
@xenaandzenafromsanbernadin3807 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the AWG-9 vs the APG-71. You have a great channel, I love your talks.
@NorthofYou1
@NorthofYou1 3 жыл бұрын
To the point, without any fluff and BS. Thanks for the insight into what happens in the real world.
@blazedgamingkr1438
@blazedgamingkr1438 3 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah. Just got sat down with some food and seen the notification. Thanks Mr. Carroll
@brunofagulha
@brunofagulha 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your insight, experience and stories. I'm a virtual aviator (DCS with VR) and this is what i dreamdt all my life (I'm 45), love aviation since i was an infant. Who thought decades later i will be watching and learning with a real naval aviator? Thank you for that. Your videos about carrier ops and everything about missions its a light on my darkest days. Wish you the best, regards from Portugal.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Bruno! Hope all are safe and well in Portugal.
@brunofagulha
@brunofagulha 3 жыл бұрын
@@WardCarroll Thank you for your kind words and time for replying to me. Fortunately the portuguese people (most of it) can be quite self aware of what is happening right now in the world, so, the numbers and the people are fine for now. Nowadays everything change in a matter of days but i´ll rather be optimistic. Wish you well and your family, they must be very proud! i´ll keep on my daydreaming and keeping on practice my traps (probably in the future i´ll bother you with one of my 1000 questions) :)
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
@@brunofagulha Look forward to it, Bruno.
@jefesman
@jefesman 3 жыл бұрын
Great Episode!! I really enjoyed this "training" session, learning some good content. This really gives great perspective, and I hope we have the opportunity to see more similar episodes building off of this one. Thank you very much!
@g.patrickbryant9674
@g.patrickbryant9674 3 жыл бұрын
Those are some beautiful guitars. I was a Navy MU and played lead guitar with the CINCLANTFLT rock band for four years (76-80). Good times. We played quite a few fighter-squadron parties at both NAS Norfolk and Oceana. We were picked to play for the cast & crew wrap party for the movie "The Final Countdown", where I met and shook hands with Kirk Douglas and Katherine Ross. We also toured extensively in support of recruiters. I loved the Navy. Thank you for your service, sir. Go Navy!
@thatoneguy2403
@thatoneguy2403 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this video, I play DCS world and I think this will really help me with flying the FA\18-C Super Hornet greatly, thanks for the great content!
@419thmilitia
@419thmilitia 3 жыл бұрын
Man if you love/miss the F-14 this is the best channel on KZbin.
@PacificAirPhoto1
@PacificAirPhoto1 3 жыл бұрын
Just awesome content, I love learning about the actual procedures, tactics, standards, etc. Thx, Ward!
@livingadreamlife1428
@livingadreamlife1428 3 жыл бұрын
excellent point in dogfighting or even in a business meeting with a client to get your facts straight. Many times I’ve seen staff in a group setting leave a meeting without being on same exact page.
@ugliifroot
@ugliifroot 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I’m planning on ultimately trying my hand at DCS (been playing flight simulator 2020 flying the Typhoon, primarily) and I also play ace combat. These lessons are both informative as well as crucial to success in a combat situation (including Sims).
@n0kodoko143
@n0kodoko143 2 жыл бұрын
True experts can explain something complex to a child. Simplicity is genius. Thank you, I appreciate you and this explanation!
@timmarks8941
@timmarks8941 3 жыл бұрын
Love that you put on the jacket on for this briefing. I feel like I'm in Top Gun :D
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
It’s one of the flight suits I wore during my tour as CAG Ops.
@timmarks8941
@timmarks8941 3 жыл бұрын
@@WardCarroll Love your videos! Keep it up.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, @@timmarks8941 !
@MedicineWolf
@MedicineWolf 3 жыл бұрын
DCS player here learning the Tomcat, would love to see you stand up and away from the monitor so you can manipulate the training aids more, just an idea, great videos!
@ryanparker4996
@ryanparker4996 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he needs more screen space its a little clunky the way he does it. Stand up professor the class needs to see you!
@michealryan23
@michealryan23 3 жыл бұрын
This is pure gold sir. Thank you.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Thx, Micheal!
@battlef1nder968
@battlef1nder968 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. I learned all this through trial and error on War Thunder. However, actually listening to the fundamentals from a veteran makes so much more sense in this video and I can really understand most of the dogfights I lost. I wish roll rate was a factor talked about in addition to turn rate
@keatonalexander8373
@keatonalexander8373 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ward love your videos and just ordered a copy of Punks war, would you consider doing a video or talking briefly about the F-14s history in Vietnam, the evacuation of Saigon and such in 1975 or even just the early years of the tomcat. Many thanks.
@amcds2867
@amcds2867 3 жыл бұрын
It's not just the insider information he shares with us, Ward is also a good communicator.
@paullanham1014
@paullanham1014 3 жыл бұрын
Drop everything immediately, another awesome episode!
@FLAC2023
@FLAC2023 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone takes the time to explain this...Ty !!! Great job
@tomcatter2027
@tomcatter2027 3 жыл бұрын
This is great material
@zentriceggofficial
@zentriceggofficial 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely my favourite instructor.
@taylorbodin
@taylorbodin 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video... I'm glad there are some folks out there talking about the intricacies of BFM. It's the sport of kings and I wish more people would talk about just how much of an art it is. I would've liked to see you bog on game plan selection (1 vs 2 circle) as it relates turn rate and turn radius as well as WEZ separation. I disagree with your assertion that turn rate is important in the 1 circle. You can have a fantastic turn rate, but if you're carving our a larger circle in the sky (large turn radius), the bandit will be able to win 3-9 with a smaller radius and get you into a WEZ. Additionally, the ability to get a front quarter shot in the 2 circle isn't why I'd choose to go 2 circle. Given an jet that rates well (viper, eagle, raptor), you might be willing to except WEZ exposure early in the 2 circle fight to preserve energy for follow-on maneuvers later in the fight versus cashing it all in for the 1 circle and getting slow (especially against an aircraft that's good slow speed like a hornet). Finally, while it may have been an option in the past, there is really limited ability to separate (or bug-out) in a modern fight. If the bandit sees the separation occurring, he'll likely cash it all to point at you and you're not going to outrun that stern WEZ Mach 1 , 2 or otherwise because it's only going to take him 15" to point at you at worst. Again, awesome stuff.
@TheJustinJ
@TheJustinJ 10 ай бұрын
It is highly unlikely that an aircraft with a higher turn rate in rad/s will also have a substantially larger turn radius. Because, physics. I think an elite naval aviator, is not someone to disagree with regarding air combat maneuvers for someone who has never experienced 3g let alone sustained 7.5~9g in close proximity to another A/C attempting to kill.
@nakotaapache4674
@nakotaapache4674 3 жыл бұрын
I like your episodes and real talk explanations very much. great content. i born 74. as kid already fascinated of flying and fighter planes of all kinds and times. tried to get to the german air force. failed because of not having the best eyes. enough others with better aviable. Using alternatives like simulator games till today DCS. Great knowledge from you and some other veterans out there. i very appreciate it. Gives the livestyle of flying an beeing a pilot great connections, values and meaning.
@DesertPunks
@DesertPunks 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if you're planning on a followup video for F-14 A and B specific tactics, it would be super valuable!
@adamrichardson6821
@adamrichardson6821 Жыл бұрын
Wow. In the classroom, learning how to dogfight. Fantastic. Thanks, Mooch!
@kevindern3597
@kevindern3597 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video Ward! This channel is great. Would love to know if you ever had a most memorable or most difficult dogfight and what plane it was against.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
So many it’s hard to pick one. I do remember a near midair with an F-15 over Morocco that got my attention.
@talltaleswithtacobell
@talltaleswithtacobell 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible breakdown...so simple a KC-130 guy can understand it!! thanks for making this and helping me understand what my uncle did as a RIO in the Dogs back in the 70's Semper Fi Taco
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Nice connecting with you today, Taco. Thx for your support.
@chadmensa
@chadmensa 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could have every question that I ever asked answered by a well-spoken ex-Navy guy. All of the facts are there, clean and concise, and there's only enough bullshit to prove humanity. I miss being around other service members(current or former).
@DNowlan1
@DNowlan1 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I'm about late to the party on this one but Ward that was outstanding. Also what you said at the 12:15s mark nailed and really highlights the consequences when you roll everything into the latest fad and forget the basics.
@asamuraihero
@asamuraihero 5 ай бұрын
Watching this to improve my dogfighting skills in Call of Duty Mobile 😂
@davidh7398
@davidh7398 3 жыл бұрын
The old dog fighting is dead because... idea. I love this channel it's become my favorite. Very well done Ward.
@mikekestell9453
@mikekestell9453 3 жыл бұрын
I may have missed it but it would be awesome if you did a video explaining some of the different brevity codes and lingo used by military aviators. Like fox 1 vs fox 3, etc. Thanks and I love your channel!
@MOTO809
@MOTO809 3 жыл бұрын
Fox 1 is a semi active radar guided air to air missile. It requires the pilot to keep the target in a certain radius of sight during the missiles flight. Fox 2 is an IR guided missile. The missile itself locks onto a heat source designated by either the pilot or the computer. It's a true 'fire and forget' weapon. Once fired, it tracks the heat source without any more outside input. Fox 3 is an active radar guided missile. It's similar to a Fox 1, except it has it's own onboard radar. This means, unlike the Fox 1, once fired the missile guides itself to the target via it's own radar, not relying on the plane it was fired from to guide it.
@bravo1495
@bravo1495 3 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel today and already have learned more about tactics than I did in a 30 year fascination with fighter jets, this man should have been in those Wings documentaries on Discovery Channel in the early 1990s!
@mayuthecop
@mayuthecop 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you in RIO seat in DCS man !
@johnevers3531
@johnevers3531 3 жыл бұрын
Post Mission was a biggie for the ACT/DACT Course. Aircrews and GCI (Me) brought in our "tapes" to review and improve our tactics/techniques/communications, made for good teamwork when it went "real".
@alpha-2286
@alpha-2286 3 жыл бұрын
I'm learning to dog fight in games, this helped alot!
@markosporn8315
@markosporn8315 3 жыл бұрын
same here,but prefer WW2 era ( IL2-sturmovik is still my favorite) because this bvr missiles,radars,etc.. just lack that personal entaglement
@ryanparker4996
@ryanparker4996 3 жыл бұрын
@@markosporn8315 you should try Ace Combat. It seriously limits the range of missile tracking so you have to get close. Not exactly a Sim by any means, but definitely fun!
@_Turtle_420
@_Turtle_420 3 жыл бұрын
I know a desert storm veteran and my grandfather built wings for f14's thanks for your service.
@Bladerunner41
@Bladerunner41 2 жыл бұрын
Technology will never overcome the Fog of War.
@georgepanagos5537
@georgepanagos5537 Жыл бұрын
This is the best Channel on KZbin in aviation especially Naval Aviation! Thank you 🙏
@pollen1963
@pollen1963 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the new video. Had a question for you hey in the movie Final Countdown when the two tomcats took out the Zero’s was it hard to adjust to the slow speed of the Zeros to set up a kill ? Or barely have the throttle up ? Just curious
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
I plan on doing a Final Countdown episode in the weeks to come, David.
@CMIKAEL1172
@CMIKAEL1172 3 жыл бұрын
@@WardCarroll Cool. That is my favorite Tomcat movie. "Splash the zeroes". Love all the scenes aboard the Nimitz as well.
@caryladd863
@caryladd863 3 жыл бұрын
I was onboard Nimitz when they filmed that. We were steaming up and down the Eastern coast of our great country.
@fltTech72
@fltTech72 Жыл бұрын
108 years of Dogfights and the rules and tactics haven't changed my favorite is the SBD aviator downing 3 Zeros went from a 1 v 1 to a 1 v 3
@ashokiimc
@ashokiimc 3 жыл бұрын
So glad I found your channel. Love hearing those amazing stories. Had a quick question for ya. Is it true that with Max AB the Tomcat could stay inverted for only 10 seconds?
@andreao6008
@andreao6008 3 жыл бұрын
Never flown the Tomcat, much to my dismay, but have my WSO/flying experience. A tip for you Ashok: next airshow you go to, count the seconds of "inverted flight". You will see each fighter lasts only so long and the same time. Just for splitting hairs, negative g, even not inverted, matters. So "unloading", to 0 or less Gs will cause your engines to starve after a few seconds... 5 to 15, in general, depending on power setting.
@ashokiimc
@ashokiimc 3 жыл бұрын
@@andreao6008 thanks for the reply Andrea. Btw which aircraft were you a WSO in?
@alecs6492
@alecs6492 3 жыл бұрын
My father Worked for Kieser Electronics and I believe one of his big projects was developing that helmet visor HUD display.
@M27-f4f
@M27-f4f 3 жыл бұрын
My new favourite channel. As a Cessna 150 driver I can’t really put this into practice but appreciate it nontheless! Haha
@FromGamingwithLove0456
@FromGamingwithLove0456 3 жыл бұрын
According to Keith "Okie" Nance you could still shoot down an F-5 in a Cessna... so don't sell yourself short! :)
@williewilson2250
@williewilson2250 3 жыл бұрын
@@FromGamingwithLove0456 just strap an m2 on and you're good
@mathware11
@mathware11 3 жыл бұрын
Brother as an aspiring Cessna 150 pilot if you’re ever in that situation try jousting the fukker , it won’t do a thing but they might leave you alone because no one wants to fuck with crazy
@FD2003Abc
@FD2003Abc 3 жыл бұрын
Just arm up. I think the Taliban has some machine guns for sale you can buy, cheap! You will rule the sky over Santa Monica!
@williewilson2250
@williewilson2250 3 жыл бұрын
@@FD2003Abc why Santa Monica?
@fortyfour6626
@fortyfour6626 3 жыл бұрын
When I used to sell…it was a discipline. You made your move based on your opponents move. Like chess or any sport. Whenever in life you have a one on one situation there’s a linear proven path that with practice and repetition increase your chances of a favorable outcome.
@mrbraamer5645
@mrbraamer5645 2 жыл бұрын
Living vicariously through your great videos!!
@chembleton
@chembleton 3 жыл бұрын
Did I understand that correctly, as an F-14 RIO you got the chance to fly an F-16 from the back seat yourself, in a dogfight? That's brilliant!
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
That is CORRECT, sir!
@CMIKAEL1172
@CMIKAEL1172 3 жыл бұрын
@@WardCarroll That's so awesome.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
@@arielkravchinski2616 what model of each and who’s the pilot? That matters a lot!
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
@@arielkravchinski2616 I’d take an F-14B over an F-18C.
@funkyfpvtb7541
@funkyfpvtb7541 3 жыл бұрын
@@WardCarroll would you teach this lesson for DCS in my server and my discord?
@darthmayhem2523
@darthmayhem2523 3 жыл бұрын
just stumbled upon your videos, now I can't stop watching. I watch DCS dogfighting videos and these go hand-in hand. I'm thinking of learning to "fly" in DCS
@major_kukri2430
@major_kukri2430 3 жыл бұрын
You should go ahead and do it. Start out with a low fidelity model and try to work your way up in skill.
@RPfau1
@RPfau1 3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone suggested you do a DCS Tomcat demo to show us what you mean in practice?
@retrocny5625
@retrocny5625 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you've done some research into DCS. I think some of the stuff on there, especially the F-14 would blow your mind in terms of how far technology has come in terms of simulators for the civilian market. I hesitate greatly to call it a video game, even though technically that's what it is... but it's a full blown sim with extremely high fidelity to the real deal, and it's as close as a civilian will ever get to flying a fighter aircraft. I know some in the pilot/RIO community on youtube have already gotten involved with it to some degree. I think you've used some screenshots from it before when discussing things such as the AWG-9 Radar, for example. I only discovered you recently but I've been checking out every video as it's uploaded. Love the content and love the Tomcat!
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. What I’ve seen is amazingly realistic.
@einard.helseth2534
@einard.helseth2534 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool and informative video Ward. Thank you. One question: Did the US Navy retire the Tomcat to early? What do you think of the Superhornet as its replacement?
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Not early, in fact it lasted longer than planned because of bombing add-ons. Super Hornet is a good airplane but no Tomcat.
@matte8663
@matte8663 2 жыл бұрын
Can I buy you a drink sir? I could listen to this information for hours. Thanks for these great videos
@JoshuaC923
@JoshuaC923 3 жыл бұрын
Today on things I'm never going to have a chance to apply in real life but are extremely cool to learn, awesome presentation!
@AnthonyBooK
@AnthonyBooK 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Greetings from Greece! Love your videos! Wondering how you earned your callsign!
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
By borrowing stuff on my first deployment. ;-)
@CMIKAEL1172
@CMIKAEL1172 3 жыл бұрын
@@WardCarroll Thanks....i was going to ask the same question.
@joekurtz8303
@joekurtz8303 3 жыл бұрын
Heard from a vet ( airborne), that most call signs are inside jokes, disparaging situations🤮, or plain reflection of character. Good or bad.👍🏼not like the 📽's
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
@@joekurtz8303 He's correct.
@ironhorse5602
@ironhorse5602 3 жыл бұрын
History channel needs to give Ward his own show.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
I’m standing by for the call. 😀
@scuffedtoast4592
@scuffedtoast4592 3 жыл бұрын
I would be really interested to see you fly in dcs sometime. Maybe you could be in the back with someone doing a collaboration
@sim87sim
@sim87sim 3 жыл бұрын
Please make it happen! :) Maybe with Growling Sidewinder or LongShot?
@icecold9511
@icecold9511 3 жыл бұрын
Surprise surprise, even with xwinders I've been forced to go guns many times.
@floppa1-166
@floppa1-166 3 жыл бұрын
@@sim87sim no
@ilyakipnis7853
@ilyakipnis7853 3 жыл бұрын
@@sim87sim GS is wonderful, but a Tomcat specialist he *ain't*.
@theoc.6711
@theoc.6711 2 жыл бұрын
Ward, simple terms: I circle fight is a radius fight. Smallest radius generates turning room inside the radius of opponent in order to allow an early turn at next merge. 2 circle fight is a rate fight: best turn rate is nose on first with the opportunity to employ a forward quarter weapon. You need smaller models. Glad I could help. All good in Breton Bay. Semper Fi, Stone
@Flaherty2007
@Flaherty2007 3 жыл бұрын
Nice new profile picture ward and amazing video
@---td8uz
@---td8uz 2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid Mr.Carroll. Thanks for the share.
@antoniog9814
@antoniog9814 3 жыл бұрын
2:58 Question: Was Monty Hall his call sign or his actual name? Did he ask you which door to pick or if you had something peculiar in your pocket? lol. I figure some here won't get it. :)
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Callsign. Real name Pat.
@antoniog9814
@antoniog9814 3 жыл бұрын
@@WardCarroll Could you tell the story of how you got the callsign of Mooch?
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty simple,@@antoniog9814. I borrowed a lot of stuff (stamps, envelopes, money during port calls) during my first deployment. Finally, another RIO declared: “You’re a mooch!” That’s all it took.
@Grendel53
@Grendel53 3 жыл бұрын
@@WardCarroll I love the stories of how one gets his "name".
@simisg2121
@simisg2121 3 жыл бұрын
The merge will never go away. My good buddy is about to start BFM portion of his training in the 35, shortly after is last qual flight he switched from the 16 blk50. He’s loving the 35 A.
@katout75
@katout75 3 жыл бұрын
Can you compare the AWG-9 and APG-71, in terms of modes/features/functions?
@AULIGAofBLEED
@AULIGAofBLEED 8 ай бұрын
This is very interesting. I'm just getting into IL2 fighter sim as a hobby I want to pursue this is a great help. Your professionalism is great! Good job
@AmericanAbsolute
@AmericanAbsolute 3 жыл бұрын
Dogfighting is far from dead even with fire and forget systems.
@meighanlynne
@meighanlynne 3 жыл бұрын
Facinating! I have to watch these type of videos a couple of times to get it all to stick in my brain so I can follow your next video! Mostly it’s the terminology. I remember a TV show I watched years back I think was called “Dogfights”, but it was WW1 or WW2 dogfights. Before you could tape the series to watch more than once. It says something that you can keep a non military aviation knowledgeable person like myself captivated by your videos!
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