What If Thorn Didn't Become Queen?

[@Dogloverlikesdoge]

I hope you guys liked this one! I think we've all imagined what it would have been like if one of the sisters became queen, so I decided to explore all the possibilities :) Question of the day: Elephants or hippos? My answer: Hippos! They are too cute, even though they're very deadly XD

[@crystalstar7178]

I personally like elaphants better for no reason- but baby elaphants are soo cute!

[@Caleb.Ramdial]

@@crystalstar7178 100% agree with you 🐘

[@serenitythesiren5031]

Hippos. Btw, I think all three sisters could be queen. Let me explain: while Blaze would handle the sort of the treasury, Burn would handle the army, and Blister could be the diplomatic side. Just an idea.

[@ThatNightCourtFishFaerie]

Elephants! 😄

[@andrewnorton931]

That's a tough one lol! I would have to go Hippos, there pretty cute! :)

[@TrickyTalon23]

Imagine Blaze sitting on the throne because the Dragonets of Destiny refused to allow Burn and Blister to have any power, and Glacier spends all her time trying to teach Blaze things like how to not get overthrown or how to not get fooled by a corrupt council, meanwhile Blaze doesn’t listen to a thing and keeps thinking about jewels

[@theinsanityoftheworld3640]

Basically, blaze becoming queen is handing everything over to vulture and onyx

[@TheSimplePerson]

Blaze: Materialism Blister: Authoritarianism, Totalitarianism Burn: Imperialism

[@Dogloverlikesdoge]

That perfectly summarizes it!

[@jAYViOtheborgack]

The only one that I know what means was materialism.

[@JustaSamoyed]

Also legalism under Blister and/or Burn.

[@alujis]

Exactly

[@RayhanM7]

The only one I have heard of was imperialism but I don’t know what it means

[@mythdragon3297]

the only problem i see with vulture is that he only really considers becoming king once darkstalker does it

[@Iionxox]

Some Arc 3 ideas! What If: -Luna Never Became A Flameslik -Blue Never Became A Flamesilk -Cricket Was Exposed To The Breath Of Evil Before She Was Born -Hivewings Lost In The Tree Wars -The Leafwings We’re REALLY Gone Just some ideas! ❤❤

[@serenitythesiren5031]

Blaze would probably actually be the best queen. Sure, she'd be awful, but as for ruling her kingdom, Glacier would probably be the actual, true ruler. She'd act like Blaze is her puppet, and in a flashback, has even admitted to being willing to help her ally rule the kingdom. Edit: I just wanted to ask...what does the 'entertain' part mean at 4:38 ? I'm just a little confused to what you mean by having Blaze entertain Vulture,

[@Dogloverlikesdoge]

OHHH I meant it as how like Scar in the Lion King kept Zazu around but only really used him to theaten and boss around as a form of entertainment and power

[@saphiriathebluedragonknight375]

That's what I think would have happened. Glacier would use Blaze as a puppet ruler.

[@internetraspberry]

Oooh, so interesting! I have ‘t thought of this before but it’s so cOOL

[@bano7861]

This was so good! I think each one is a very unique and interesting plot for the story to take. Though for Blaze, I imagined Glacier to be more involved. I think you captured everything perfectly, especially the scene where dying Blister insults Burn, and her words would be remembered as Burn dies.

[@Dogloverlikesdoge]

Yeah, I also think Glacier would be more involved out of pity.

[@whirlpool_hate_club]

Hi dogloverlikesdoge! How are you feeling? I've just gotta say I've been sick for the past few days and this video just made my day! Have a good day

[@Dogloverlikesdoge]

I hope you'll start to feel better soon! :D And my day is going well, ty for asking :)

[@Westrex_YT]

This is a very good question for a video Idea I can't belive I never questioned what would have happened if she didn't become queen!

[@Caleb.Ramdial]

Congrats on 7k subs

[@Dogloverlikesdoge]

Thank you!

[@theinsanityoftheworld3640]

I had a different idea about how blister would take the throne and it had to do with her not antagonizing the DoDs in book 2, and uses the nightwings to win the war and take over pyrrhia, one tribe at a time.

[@mischievousia4582]

8:39 glory would kill her as soon as she killed blister, and if that didn’t finish her off she would grab a spear from one of the guards and stab her.

[@ThatNightCourtFishFaerie]

I love your videos keep up the good work!! Could you do a what if animus powers were in Pantala???

[@Dogloverlikesdoge]

That's a great one! :O

[@ThatNightCourtFishFaerie]

Thanks! 😄

[@celestialstars9]

"She couldn'g be that bad, right?" **LOUD, BOOMING, PEACEFUL MUSIC PLAYS!** it was a perfume ad

[@Dogloverlikesdoge]

PFFFFFT--

[@Caleb.Ramdial]

How dare someone have this thought

[@Dogloverlikesdoge]

I know 😔 I am very grateful we got Thorn as a queen. I mean, look at what could have happened!

[@Quinn_and_sarahwarman324]

I would cry

[@Magici._L]

I have a good what if! (What if Tsunami grew up in the palace?) It's kinda like the sunny one but it's still kinda interesting!

[@Dogloverlikesdoge]

Ooh! Sounds cool :O

[@Magici._L]

Ty!

[@juliuscaesar5397]

Blaze is worth much more alive than dead. She would be the official power, while the real power would fall into the hands of other, lesser nobles.

[@crimsonamogsus7351]

9th? this released 6 minutes ago?!

[@Ueglqbroqvrj]

Hi, I really like your AU vids. I wanted to write a book about what might've happened if Glory hadn't discovered her venom, but I got lazy and wrote a sort of summary instead. I was wondering if you'd like to make a video about it? It's very long, though, cuz I basically rewrote the entirety of arc 1. The book was supposed to be from Starflight's POV, so that's why it doesn't really get into what happened to the other dragonets. So here it is... Fjord kills Clay in the arena. The NightWings rescue Starflight, and he is taken to the NightWing island and forced to work with the alternate dragonets. The accident with Flame and Viper happens, and Morrowseer knows that if Sunny isn’t already dead, she will be soon, so he sends a group of NightWings to retrieve a SandWing dragonet from the Scorpion Den to replace Viper. Starflight is devastated when he realizes that there is no hope for Sunny, and he had never even told her he loved her. The next day, a SandWing named Qibli is brought to the NightWing island against his will. However, he decides to help Starflight and Fatepeaker use Flame’s face as an excuse to escape into the tunnel, and they are surprised to find that it leads to the rainforest. They decide to go back and try to save Starflight’s friends, leaving Flame with the RainWing healers, and find that only Glory is still alive. They rescue Glory, and the four of them return to the rainforest. Starflight tells Glory about the RainWing prisoners, and they’re about to go into the tunnel to investigate, but they find the sand kingdom tunnel and decide that it could be important, so they go there instead. Glory meets Deathbringer and finds Blaze’s fortress, and Blaze wants to meet the dragonets who are left, so Glory takes Blaze back to Qibli and Fatespeaker. Instead of Tsunami, Qibli jumps in front of the disc to save Blaze. They return to the rainforest, taking some of the cactus back to heal Flame. Glory meets her tribe, finally discovers her venom, becomes queen of the RainWings, and they go to save the missing RainWings, except the volcano hasn’t erupted yet because I completely skipped the events of 3 books. Glory meets queen Battlewinner, and Battlewinner leaves her lava bath to attack Glory, but freezes to death. The NightWings decide that being ruled by a RainWing is better than living on this awful island, so most of them go to the rainforest with Glory. Some stay, but will be killed by the volcano when it erupts. Morrowseer tells the dragonets that the prophecy is fake, and tries to go through the tunnel. Qibli attacks him, stabbing his tail into the NightWing’s spine. Morrowseer dies. They arrange the meeting at Burn’s stronghold, and Blister's viper trick works, killing Burn. Flower seems to sense what the dragons needed, and she digs in Oasis’s grave for the Eye of Onyx, but no one notices her and no one helps her. She pulls the Eye of Onyx out of Oasis’s mouth, and Blister grabs it and dies. Qibli decides to give the Eye to Thorn (remember he is loyal to her), and Thorn is the queen of the SandWings. So, the outcome of arc one is still mostly the same. However, there are some major differences. Sunny, Tsunami and Clay are all dead. Anemone is Queen Coral’s only daughter, guaranteed to take the SeaWing throne one day. Thorn’s hunt for her lost daughter still continues, and will continue for as long as Thorn is alive. Scarlet’s face is undamaged, and her reign of terror won’t be over for many years.

[@dirtybeacher]

I clicked the moment I saw this I have been wondering the same thing for a while now

[@KitsuneFIame]

In my opinion, Sunny picking thorn as queen is pure bias, Sure blaze may not be a good queen, But still! The prophecy says, ‘Of three queens who blister, blaze and burn’ Not ‘Of four queens who blister, blaze, burn and thorn’ and Thorn isn't even royalty, Sure Shes queen of the out-claws but still. And none of the DoDs wanted her to be queen! Well, sunny wanted her to be queen, but that's because Shes her mother and she met her not that long ago, but still, she met her not that long before they had to pick a queen, plus blaze survived the attack, she should be queen, she would have been queen if not for Sunny's biasness. Blaze may be a bit stupid, not that good of a fighter, but she still is worthy-Ish for queen, Thats my personal opinion. So, if you don't like it, Thats fine.

[@gray_snowfall2706]

if thorn died i would cry. my favorite queen in the series by FAR. i also have this thing where i will love a character, but not know how to say why. idk i just can't explain my fondness of several characters(Turtle, Kinkajou, and THorn)

[@the_flaming_kha0s]

Ok, a few things about the Queen Blaze AU 1) how DARE you suggest that Glacier wouldn't help her gf learn to become a better queen and would just leave and let her die!!!11!!111@@?&#&# 😤😡😤 (sarcastic) 2) Vulture's original plan had Onyx taking the throne, with probably being an advisor or second in comnad to her. I don't remember when or where exactly he got inspired to become King instead of having Onyx as a middle man, but I believe it was sometime in DOD, and Qibli was explaining Darkstalker's plan. So I think it would go something like this: With Blaze on the throne and no JMA, Chameleon still has the scroll, and Darkstakler stays trapped under the moutian forever, and with no Darkstakler to inspire Vulture to take the throne himself, Onyx is made Queen of the SandWings after the first SandWing Rebellion. Blister and Blaze break out of the prison, but Onyx is stronger and smarter than Blaze was, and especially with the help of the Talons of Power backing her up, the two sisters flee the Sand Kingdom to try and recoup their lost power. Onyx isn't as bad as Blister or Burn would have been, but she still isn't the greatest, and the IceWing Queen is engaged by the death of her old ally. Thorn has her rebellion, like in your version, and is made Queen. Vulture's followers and the few Oynx loyalists are hunted down and are either killed or sent away to the SandWing dungeon. Queen Thorn rules very well, but with a constant looming threat of the last two sisters coming for what they think belongs to one of them... TL;DR: Onyx becomes Queen while Vulture becomes a second in command, Glacier gets made that her gf died, Thorn stages another rebellion, and Burn and Blister are still alive and plotting dramticly or something

[@RayhanM7]

Blaze WAS the last one alive so she could have been queen but it was up to the dod to decide kin of

[@anya-f6z]

I don't know if you had this idea for a what if or not but you should definitely try do what if thorn got stone movers letter

[@Frostbite961]

Oh dear. Thai is very interesting. And an amazing concept. Thank the stars in canon Thorn is Queen. They all have their faults, but have their strength too (except maybe Blaze). Love it.

[@dust.runner]

I wonder if a situation could have occurred where all three would have died (or at least Blister and Burn) after holding the Eye of Onyx. I'm not sure Blaze would risk it if she saw her sisters die in front of her though. She seemingly fought in canon because she had no other choice. Of course this would still probably end with Thorn as queen, since Sunny (with Flower) was the only one in place to find the Eye of Onyx. Though maybe Smolder would have found it later with Flower's help. Like, if the tribe was without ruler, and he had become close to Onyx or Thorn and thought they'd be good rulers. Does make you wonder if Arc 2 would happen at all in this scenario tho. Not sure the DoD would have been able to start JM Academy if the war of sandwing succession ended like that, as though the prophecy was wrong and they failed, and the Sandwing tribe was in crisis.

[@anonymouscheeseslice6546]

Idea : What if Kinkajou, Qibli, Winter, Turtle or even Moon died in the fire instead of the dragons that did die? (This means Carnelian and that Nightwing lives)

[@catjana9813]

yeah, all of these theories make sense, except a few bits about the first one. I think Glacier would be more involved in helping Blaze run the kingdom and Vulture would be manipulating her from the shadows rather than taking over publicly, since he only got the idea to be king from Darkstalker. Also, I can just see Glacier trying to teach Blaze how to not trust dragons who are obviously untrustworthy but Blaze not paying attention and listening to Vulture's lies. sigh

[@theguywhoisdefinlyahuman]

What if jerboa and darkstalker met before she erased Animus magic?

[@Normal_Arkplayer_]

Having thorn as queen, probably would have be the best thing that happened to the sand wings and their allies

[@Normal_Arkplayer_]

* explodes * I GOT A LIKEEEEE

[@joezacco4204]

- What if there was no Dragonet Prophecy? - What if Sunny was the new Sandwing Queen? - What if Vulture was the Sandwing King? - What if Clearsight was the Nightwing Queen? - What if Clearsight never existed? - What if Clearsight never went to Pantala? - What if the Hivewing tribe never existed? - What if Anemone became Queen of the Seawings? - What if Moonwatcher never had any special Nightwing powers? - What if Turtle never had any animas powers? I hope you decide to do these videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@nishthedude]

WHY DO YOU HATE BLAZE SO MUCH SHES OUR CINNAMON BUN AHHH

[@sunsetfox1348]

I might have to disagree with Glacier not bothering Blaze after she got her land, I think I remember in one of Snowfall's vision or something else, she said that she would help Blaze rule because she's the least cruel queen and she could help guide her or something, my memory could be wrong though

[@mischievousia4582]

3:59 glory would obviously help.

[@sonamist-2579]

Do you think you could do a What If Scarlet was killed by Glory’s venom?

[@Dogloverlikesdoge]

Ooh! That's a good one

[@Marielitta2023]

I think that glory would have don some good old magical death spit on burn if she became the queen of the sandwings

[@Coconutsarefantastic]

What if Moon did not gain any special abilities?

[@oakenshadow6763]

I always love these. But I do wonder, would Jerboa III let this happen? Or would she take action to fix what the Eye of Onix didn't?

[@Dogloverlikesdoge]

That's a great thing to consider! I wonder what she'd do...

[@emmettadams4802]

You never mentioned who would become queen once Queen Blister gets killed by the Eye of Onyx, because Thorn, Blaze and Blister were all already dead.

[@Dogloverlikesdoge]

Perhaps that one is up to interpretation 👀

[@RaptorSquad12]

do what if darkstalker made clearsight immortal

[@892ffffff]

oho I’ve been thinking about that I hope this person does do this

[@Dogloverlikesdoge]

Whoa, I love that! 👀 Imagine Blue, Cricket, and Sundew finding an immortal Clearsight that has been hidden away by Wasp

[@892ffffff]

@@Dogloverlikesdoge wasp asking her for prophecies and saying clearsight said that she should be queen of silkwings and hivewings i doubt wasp could keep clearsight hidden , unless breath of evil but how did wasp get clearsight first 👀

[@grimmothy1236]

You should do what if peril went with kestrel you know, after being reuniting.

[@DodgeTitanicSXT]

I know the video isn't about this, but I recently had a theory that would be cool if you could give your point of view on it, there's a 3rd continent. When Clearsight arrived she married BeetleWings and a lot of them, but there's no way she could have married every single one of them. So BeetleWings could still get with other BeetleWings so there's no way they're gone, Wasp probably decreased their population during the tree wars and wiped any mention of them out of the books. Since they're not on Pantala, they had to move somewhere else. Probably a 3rd continent.

[@Dogloverlikesdoge]

That would be interesting for sure!

[@sleepycoffee7]

This is so GOOD'

[@Xx_D4RK_K1N_xX]

Ok call me insane but I feel like burn would like the dod. The princesses seem to dislike them in like a fear way so I’d they have no other sister they probably wouldn’t care about them. But would also prob take sunny for her collection tho

[@catandnaturelover6943]

I like Blister's story best.

[@am_Nein]

(SPOILER WARNING FOR THE DANGEROUS GIFT) I have to mention that in glaciers memories it was said that she would try help blaze rule to the best of her abilities, so theres that

[@Eclipse210]

Wait, what about Onyx?

[@Luzita_1972]

Hi

[@Luzita_1972]

The simple ' hi ' got a heart? Man I gotta do this more often .. 😎

[@lijuanliu3552]

What if clearsight never came to pantala

[@joezacco4204]

WHAT IF SUNNY WAS THE NEW SANDWING QUEEN??????????????????????????????????????

[@crystalstar7178]

First!

[@crystalstar7178]

also im sorry yes this comment is very annoying but i freaked out when i realized i was first :(

[@wanderingvagrant1551]

Then i would make her queen

[@kristinosullivan2637]

Actually blister is oldest🤓

[@AaronKnight-fe1vm]

With all respect sorry for this but thorn is the best i don't think no others sandwing would be better

[@aaronknight1430]

Blazes would not be a good queen and she will die very quickly, Best queen would be so a kind when she need to be, strong good fight for her live plus the tribes security and intelligences + wisdom ruler will be the best for the sandwings also other tribes love & strength so no blaze sorry she sounds like a nice dragon but not as ruler material queen need to be a bit harder

[@deborahcerna1560]

You legit stole this series idea from another KZbinr

[@theinsanityoftheworld3640]

A lot of KZbinrs do what ifs, and besides everyone took the idea from marvel

[@stevedave8415]

I like to think more of closer relationship between icewing and nightwings if blaze was Queen also Blaze X Glacier shipping :3