Doing a track day alignment in my home garage

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Josh Van Veld's Racing Mind

Josh Van Veld's Racing Mind

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@MSIMark
@MSIMark 11 ай бұрын
I've been working on Corvettes since I was 15, I'm now 63. I'm sure that I've aligned at least 3000 of them as I used to average over 300 per year. There is so much to learn and I give you a lot of credit. Credit for doing it yourself and credit for being bold enough and humble enough to record and publish it all. Good job! For those of you ready to embark on this same journey, let me offer a few pro tips: 1) if you are going to bump steer your car, record the distance axle/hub centerline to a point on the fender lip before you jack the car up the first time at ride height. That will be your staring point for measuring bump steer (and you only need to cycle the suspension 2 inches in each direction (compression and droop) from ride height. 2) Think of the car as a huge bench vice. Let the car hold the parts while you break the nuts and bolt loose. Unfortunately you needed to work twice as hard breaking the ball joints and tie rods loose because you had disconnected the control arms from the chassis first. If you were to remove the sway bar end links, lower shock mounting bolts, tie rods ends and ball joints before removing the control arms, you would have been faster and not had to work nearly as hard. 3) you can remove or install the transverse leaf springs, by undoing the lower shock mounting bolts on both sides, one sway bar end link and lower ball joint on one side of the car. 4) you will never get all of the air and old fluid out of the brake hydraulic system without cycling the abs pump with a scan tool. 5) Any bump steer washer change will require a toe readjustment as you have changed the outboard location of the tie rod. Think of it this way, in stock form, the tie rod slopes down as it projects outboard. By raising the outboard of the tie rod (because the outer tie rod end travels in an arc) you will need to shorten the tie rod length to maintain toe. That is why you were toed out up front and toed in out back. And the biggest time saver for you in the future is that you can adjust toe without taking the wheels off. Just jack it up, slide under the bumper, break the inner jamb nut loose and turn the inner tie rod with a wrench (the inner tie rods have flats, I think that they are 13mm, and the threads are right hand). Mark your staring point on the inner tie rod with a sharpie or chalk. If you are adjusting front toe and you need more toe in, just shorten the front tie rods The same number of flats on both sides. 5)if you want to make some really cheap and compact slip plates for doing an alignment, get 8 pieces of 1/8" aluminum roughly 16"x16", squirt a bit of grease between a pair of plates and place each pair under the tires. as you raise and lower the car, they will allow the suspension to settle so you will not need to drive the car in and out of the garage in order for the suspension to settle between each adjustment. When you are done with the plates, a quick clean up with brake kleen and paper towels and you can tuck them behind your tool box for the next use. I hope this helps. If you have any questions, feel free to call me at the shop.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 11 ай бұрын
Wow Mark, thanks for taking the time to share your expertise! I’m going to pin this comment and refer back to it next time I play with the suspension setup. 🤝
@MSIMark
@MSIMark 11 ай бұрын
@@JoshVanVeld feel free to use me as a resource . I would love to save you and your viewer some busted knuckles and time. I'm in Roseville CA so we are on different time zones.
@dirkpittthegreat4559
@dirkpittthegreat4559 11 ай бұрын
Way to complicated!!😮😅
@VZBudgetBuildz
@VZBudgetBuildz 9 ай бұрын
Wow, freaking impressive and what a kind soul to give out years of information you worked so hard for, out for everyone for free. Truly a blessing for a Vette novice who wants to do suspension work on their Vette, without the risk of damaging things or wasting time during removal/installation . God bless you brother 🙌
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 9 ай бұрын
@@VZBudgetBuildz Just trying to pay it forward man, thanks for the kind words!
@fxg2825
@fxg2825 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Japanese Corvette fan.I found your work process videos to be quite captivating, thanks to the remarkably clear video quality that showcases your work. Your well-organized, clean, and spacious workspace in the garage is truly envy-inducing.I'm also looking forward to your future video updates.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment! I’d love to visit Japan someday. I hope to have a video update soon.
@freedomstar3814
@freedomstar3814 9 ай бұрын
The sound from that LS7 never gets old ... something a GT3 can't do !
@fz0gtg
@fz0gtg 8 ай бұрын
Good on you for wearing your safety glasses!
@pali1H
@pali1H Жыл бұрын
Wow that must be so hard to foster dogs. We would have such a hard time not keeping them all. Ruthy breaks my heart. I hope she's OK.
@hh65flyer
@hh65flyer Жыл бұрын
7K shifts? Cylinder heads should be a lot higher on your priority list! Ha! Awesome to see someone doing their own work in their own modest garage. Keep it up!! PS, can we see a video on the Indian some day? I'm a Ducati Monster kind of guy but that bike looks intriguing. Thanks!
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
😂😂😅 I was doing motorcycle videos on the channel a while back but decided to stop because it’s not the best to mix cars and bikes from an algorithm perspective. Plus my riding skills are way behind my driving. It’s a killer bike. Heavier than the Monster but super torquey. I did a review on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4bEcomVhtuAmZI
@hh65flyer
@hh65flyer Жыл бұрын
@@JoshVanVeld Well that's exactly what I was looking for!! I did search your channel for 'Indian' and nothing came up...now I see why.
@supay6537
@supay6537 Жыл бұрын
Finally! Another video 😂 DO NOT QUIT! 👍🏼
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@supay6537
@supay6537 Жыл бұрын
Ok this is BS! This man is like.. oh yeah let’s just drive down the road to a real race track. Oh yeah blah blah, okay see ya. God created everything in 7 days and this dude worked 8 days on his Vette 👏🏼
@wendyfuller6230
@wendyfuller6230 10 ай бұрын
This is Gene. I have been working on Corvettes and other vehicles since I was15 years old and I am now 68 years old. I love it and I work on my cars and trucks every chance I get.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 10 ай бұрын
How awesome that you found a life-long love for a skill at such a young age!
@jsa310
@jsa310 Жыл бұрын
Can you share your torque setting sheet for all the suspension components? Thank you! Great video!
@HunnerBux
@HunnerBux Жыл бұрын
I sat down thinking I would only watch 20 min or so and then get to work on my own car.... ended up watching it all the way through lol. Love the content. Watching the progression of the car and you learning the car both from a mechanic stand point and from a driver stand point is pretty cool. Quality videography and audio too by the way! Keep 'em coming!
@detroit_derek
@detroit_derek Жыл бұрын
Same for me! This video served well as both procrastination and motivation to get to work on my own C6Z 😅 I'm happy to say that I did get out into the garage after watching!
@NCCoder
@NCCoder Жыл бұрын
Alignments are one of those things where each adjustment has an effect on the others.
@justinmoser6163
@justinmoser6163 Жыл бұрын
Great job, I love the car and you and your wife are so great for helping those rescue dogs. Keep up the good work!
@patrickschultz256
@patrickschultz256 Жыл бұрын
You know what I absolutely love about this channel? It shows the good the bad and the ugly of having project cars which a lot of channels don't show! Keep up all the great work! Cant wait for more videos!
@Ike8Sec
@Ike8Sec Жыл бұрын
Recently stumbled across your channel. As others have stated, love the real 1st person approach that resembles what so much of us endure and enjoy with this hobby. Really replying in response to the cameo for Ruthy; God bless you for doing what you’re doing to help animals in need. There are sick people in this world.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’ll do an update on Ruth soon, she’s feeling a lot more like herself and almost ready for a permanent home.
@randallsemrau6911
@randallsemrau6911 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the really well made video presentation, Josh. You cover all the points clearly.
@mauriciohermoza-suarez5166
@mauriciohermoza-suarez5166 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this I kept hearing noises and I want to do full overhaul of suspension.
@roblochjr3958
@roblochjr3958 Жыл бұрын
What a HUGE Job, Kudos brother for undertaking this with limited mech experience, The way to learn is just dive right in, And brother, you did a high dive in a shallow pool LoL, Good Luck !
@williamhammond3998
@williamhammond3998 Жыл бұрын
Your content is freaking amazing. To top it off you’re working on my all time favorite car. I really hope you get her back up and running with a new 427.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for the compliment! Fingers crossed it won’t be long before the new motor is ready.
@jrvettes8138
@jrvettes8138 Жыл бұрын
I love listening to you talk to yourself; we all do it when working on these cars. Great content, keep it coming!
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
I've had to work on projecting my voice when I talk to myself as I work so you can hear me on camera. My natural way of doing it is more of a mumble. Not a skill I ever thought I'd be working on 😅
@StrykerWolf92
@StrykerWolf92 Жыл бұрын
To properly align your toe the suspension needs to have the weight of the vehicle on it. Or else you'll be chasing your tail like you did. They sell wheel stands from intercomp or raceramps that will let you set the car down on an elevated surface and give you enough space to make your adjustments. Your supposed to use them with turn plates (if you want to be super pro), but they work without it. I think that will help you in the future a bunch.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ShinyBlackRims
@ShinyBlackRims 11 ай бұрын
C6 generation is the best driver's cars. Although I have C7 and look forward to what C8 ZR1 can do, C6Z and ZR1 would be a dream to drive. Row those gears.
@benwalker9258
@benwalker9258 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping the dogs
@96t5wagon
@96t5wagon Жыл бұрын
Man!!! What a great video Josh! Thanks for letting us tag along
@maintenancethrottle
@maintenancethrottle Жыл бұрын
Hats off to you, Josh! Massive amount of work!!! I felt your pain with the up and down with the Quickjacks. Congrats on winning the battle! Kudos to you all for fostering those dogs. Tore my heart out with the pit mix with no teeth. Unbelievable the stuff that goes on out there in the world.
@ronaldrussell5481
@ronaldrussell5481 Жыл бұрын
Doing a suspension rebuild and adjusting alignment is a real education for most of us. There is a lot of engineering that goes into that system and there are some sharp people out there in the aftermarket that make upgrade kits and measuring tools as well. Like you said, doing a project like you did helps you grow in appreciation for your vehicle.
@Z06Ivan
@Z06Ivan Жыл бұрын
Wow such an underrated channel. I just watched this entire video and was actively engaged the entire time without realizing it was an hour long haha. Great job filming and showing the ups and downs of this entire install! Looking at getting a c5 z or c6 z in the next 6 months or so!
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Haha thanks! You can’t go wrong with either car, I’ve had both.
@robyna8995
@robyna8995 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations! You make taking apart the suspension look easy now. Wow. I can’t imagine taking all that on. I need to rethink my own suspension. I haven’t done a bump steer kit or the Felton bushings. Seems like both of those would really improved the car. Looking forward to seeing what you take on next.
@V29546
@V29546 Жыл бұрын
I must say I love your videos. Its the exact stuff I like doing (working on my car in my garage) trying to figure stuff out myself. Trial and error. Trying new parts ect. Good enjoyable content here :)
@albanybrian
@albanybrian Жыл бұрын
You have a lot of patience to go through the repeated toe measurements and adjustments, good job. These kind of challenges of modifications is why I have stopped doing that. I used to ask myself why do you do this to yourself when these "bolt on" modifications required additional modifications, tools, and time to get to work properly. Yes, they may have proven to add the performance advertised and desired but "bolt on" is a very broad term that one has to take with a grain of salt. I hope this all pays off for you with the feel you seek when tracking the car. Again, good job and thanks for sharing.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Good point - somehow I always get the impression that bolt-ons will be easy and it takes three times longer than expected 😬 For me it’s been worth it because I’m enjoying the steep part of the learning curve, but I would never fault somebody for turning to a shop or just leaving it stock.
@2801race
@2801race Жыл бұрын
I feel your pain, been there with my C5 and all the rabbit holes you went through. I just pick up 2007 ZO6 ? There is a lot satisfaction when it pays off on the track. KEEP IT a up Josh.
@kuan098760
@kuan098760 Жыл бұрын
The magic of the c6 z06 is when u drive it on the limit at the race track. Its very brute to point and shoot. Rear steering with throttle very very different to other cars. It does it so well too. When you turn in and give gas it steers to that direction.
@diegohorton869
@diegohorton869 Жыл бұрын
Your way better skilled mechanic than you let on. Helps the content I’m sure. A little above average I’d say.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm learning a ton from this project alone, but I have a long, long way to go.
@racingdc9
@racingdc9 Жыл бұрын
Great video, just subscribed. I'm strongly considering a C6 ZO6 in a year or so. Keep up the good work!!
@almostlastplace
@almostlastplace Жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to tackle diy alignment lately but it looks so intimidating. Good on you for going for it this vid is made it so much more tempting to try.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Go for it!
@bstafford11
@bstafford11 Жыл бұрын
First video of your I've watched. Very impressed with your attention to detail and work ethic. Was gonna sub anyway but even more inclined because you foster those lovely dogs. Keep up the great content and looking forward to watching others featuring the C6.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks Brian, I appreciate it!
@thomasstubbins7692
@thomasstubbins7692 Жыл бұрын
Keeps getting better and better. Love the channel and following the build. I have a 07 yellow Z06 as well. Track focused but also use it for canyon roads/day trips. Have the same size apex wheels and nankang tires. I look forward to every video and what I might want to try on my car. Or at least what to expect when I buy parts and take it to the performance shop.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Nice! Smart move letting the shop do the work 😅
@Gord19
@Gord19 5 ай бұрын
Outstanding work thanks for posting this. Much appreciated .
@beachboardfan9544
@beachboardfan9544 Жыл бұрын
The fact that those new bushings just slide right in makes me think they're definitely going to be sloppier than the factory ones.
@zaknefain100
@zaknefain100 Жыл бұрын
Boedeker and others make PTFE impregnated delrin. Just an FYI.. not that you're interested in manufacturing them. But that aside, you can always use a PTFE based grease (SuperLube etc) for assembly.. not that it's necessary but it does help things stick together and stay in place, which is certainly helpful for assembly. Nice video though, cheers.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Thanks, the grease tip definitely would have come in handy.
@VegasJD
@VegasJD 8 ай бұрын
There are Corvette-specialist factory dealerships that will laser align your suspension and give you the full chart of every measurement. If you've never had it done, it's beautiful. They give you an actual motorsports spec sheet. Mine even corner balanced it for me. That way you know you have a perfectly spec'd setup with all the measurements you need for the future. I've had my 08 since new, so I'm watching some of the same flubs and "learning experiences" I made too. (I'm currently on engine #4. Lol! ) *Corvette Wave
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 8 ай бұрын
Engine #4??? I need to hear that story!
@VegasJD
@VegasJD 8 ай бұрын
--Engine 1, stock with cam...the early dry sump gremlins got me on a long left sweeper, spun a bearing. (Upgrade your dry sump system if you plan on tracking yours. At least the extra baffled tank) --Rebuild into #2...ECS 2200 Supercharger setup, featured on the SPEED Channel and Gearz TV show a few times. Raced, road tripped, etc....ran it hard for about 45k before a valve spring broke, seized a lifter, and ate itself and the cam. (I was using too heavy of a spring for the open seat capabilities of the LS7 lifter (.675 duals at 525+ open lbs), #6 intake roller collapsed. The hyd roller LS7 lifters do not like more than 400lbs of open pressure at .600. That makes the ideal dual spring a .660 dual, just fyi.) --Into engine #3, went back to higher compression N/A with CNC heads/cam combo with shaft rockers and all the bolt-ons...it's run strong, but started making noise at the end of my last season..., so it's been in my home track shop in Green Bay, Wi...still diagnosing. LOL! I'm hoping it's just a couple of sticky valves and a blown header gasket, but am horrified it's a spun rod bearing. It's currently in shop up near Road America. I'm heading back up there after it thaws out to tear it down again. Will likely go for a sleeved TSP block and just build a fresh one. Will also rework the heads to try and gain some compression back to make room for a small nitrous shot...just for sh/ts and giggles. :P (My experience is not the norm...I've had it since 09, and it's only been stock 2 months of its entire life. I'm also a certified performance instructor and used my Corvette for my certs. LOL!!! )
@VegasJD
@VegasJD 8 ай бұрын
@@JoshVanVeld kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5Ddn2ebbNl9kKMsi=ZKucX0yUJFQoRNR9 I narrow bodied it after a track incident cracked the cf fenders. They're lighter and have a better drag coefficient than the Z-bodies...and half the cost of a replacememt Z-fender. Plus I like the sleeper. :P
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 8 ай бұрын
@@VegasJDThat car has lived quite a life. Awesome! How many total miles on it?
@VegasJD
@VegasJD 8 ай бұрын
@@JoshVanVeld It doesn't get trailered. It drives to the event and drives home (mostly. Lol!) There's 82k'ish on the clock...but I did daily it for 45-50k for a few years on engine #2. Engine 3 was a driveway time-limited rushed rebuild that just didn't stand up more than a year. The rest of the miles are tracks, road rallies, and the odd PowerBlock/Gearz appearance.
@TheWolfMatt
@TheWolfMatt Жыл бұрын
I can relate to doing the bushings on a suspension system. I did a bushing swap on my 78 Firebird Formula from factory rubber to Energy Suspension polyurethane and WOW what a difference that made. Love the content bud. And btw.....the Z06 was born to make Hooligans out of drivers, why do you think sooooo many of us still want one. 😉 Trust me, we're all enjoying watching what you've been able to accomplish with Goldie. Keep at it bud, can't wait to see what you have planned next. LG coil overs perhaps?
@PeterReingold
@PeterReingold Жыл бұрын
Great work. I've been watching all of your work with Goldi. But even the best performance shops know when to outsource certain aspects of the work. In your case, alignment. It took you two days and tons of work - and it looks analog, which is not the most accurate. A decent alignment shop would have this done digitally in about an hour. You may still want to go that route. Good luck!
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Definitely not the efficient way to do it but it’s nice to do something like that at least once to demystify it.
@09c6z06
@09c6z06 Жыл бұрын
Great Video - love watching your progression. I have a 2009 Goldie and I May follow your mods. Great Car !
@kuan098760
@kuan098760 Жыл бұрын
Suspension geometry changes once u have the car on the quick jack. Everything goes down. U have to adjust it when the car is on the ground if u know what i mean.
@motorgearhead
@motorgearhead Жыл бұрын
Big movement on this one... good stuff. Can't wait until the next track outing... 7K pulls, probably a good idea you masked the speedo... almost looked like Mexico speeds🤔. In NC a 7K pull in 2nd gear will get you a MAJOR speeding ticket... in fact it may get you taken to the station depending on where & who you encounter.... you can speculate how I might have insight in to these matters.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Yikes! I'm usually pretty tame when I drive on the street but after all that work I had to let Goldie eat a bit. Gonna save it for the track next time... you won't have to wait long! 😃
@detroit_derek
@detroit_derek Жыл бұрын
When aligning the toe, your tie rod length isn't going to change as much as the total measurement needs to change. Your tie rods are much closer to the pivot point than the edges of the tires where your measuring tapes are.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
That makes perfect sense. I’m noticing that when I’m working on stuff I tend to just plow ahead instead of stopping to think. It ends up costing me a lot of time in the long run.
@Zach_Horvath
@Zach_Horvath Жыл бұрын
I just got to the alignment phase on my suspension rebuild. I took a short drive without checking the alignment and the car was all over the place even before leaving my neighborhood. The toe is visibly far away from 0 at all four corners. I'll need to try and dial that in before I can get it to an alignment rack. Looking forward to seeing you back on track.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
I think on my first drive my toe was at least symmetrical and there was so much toe-in in the rear that it only wanted to go straight.
@Mach1daddy
@Mach1daddy Жыл бұрын
Yes. We have been patiently waiting.
@robmccance
@robmccance Жыл бұрын
Love this vid, JV. Excellent.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob!
@alexfrey4828
@alexfrey4828 6 ай бұрын
I love this channel. And the real takeaway I've had from watching the videos is that the E36 M3 is a Corvette killer at the track (at least in the hands of Josh)... and Corvettes aren't that reliable.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 6 ай бұрын
Haha thanks man! I don’t think we’re supposed to say that part out loud 😅
@_slipAngle_
@_slipAngle_ Жыл бұрын
Josh, first off, great video, thanks! Couple of questions/comments. Did you leave off the washers on the upper control arms when you reinstalled them? If so, you should validate that. I have stock bushing, so I'm not sure if that is what your instructions called for or not. Leaving them off would certainly explain your drastic toe and camber changes (sounded like you used a AMT street setting, so should not have that much camber on a street setting). Each washer is about 0.5 degrees camber from what I've found (roughly), so removing a washer will make your camber go negative by 0.5 degrees. I had 3 washers stacked on my front, so that would account for 1.5 degrees negative camber if you left them off. Also keep in mind if you remove only the front or rear pair on any given a-arm, you will change camber AND caster. When you change camber, your toe will change alot, so you need to recheck toe every time you change the camber lock-plate position and/or add remove washers. This means it's not so easy to go from a street to a track setting (i.e. your toe will change so much you need to re-do the alignment). You may know all of this already, so sorry if that's the case. I just say all this because I was just surprised by your camber numbers after the install, and I also noticed when you installed the upper a-arms I couldn't see washers. Cheers! P.S. Next time you adjust toe, just do so without removing the wheels, you will have plenty of room with that lift. You are going to kick yourself once you try that, SOOOO much easier. I was cringing every time you removed the wheels to adjust the toe. You can thank me later on that one. :)
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Hey Rod, I love the comment thank you! I was wondering how long it would take somebody to notice that I didn't need to remove the wheels every time (which was a big time sink). I didn't realize it until I was editing the video. Oops! I am running without washers on the uppers. The AMT kit comes with spacers you can use (to replace the factory washers) and using a different number of spacers fore and aft will also affect your caster settings, so at some point I'd like to get back some of the caster I lost - recommended settings I read have 2-3 more degrees of caster. It did occur to me that adjusting camber between street and track will also affect toe. It's something I expect I'll experiment with in the future. The dream of having a dual-purpose car sounds great until you realize there's a massive amount of work involved in switching back and forth between street and track modes. Thanks again for the comment, I appreciate it.
@_slipAngle_
@_slipAngle_ Жыл бұрын
@@JoshVanVeld We are very similar, I've figured things out the hard way so many times, that I know I would appreciate someone pointing it out to me as soon as they see it! haha Sounds like you are on the right track with everything. I am a few months behind you on my build, as my track doesn't open for at least 1 more month and I want to get some seat time in my car while it's still stock (purchased just before winter). But, I've just spent the last couple of weeks messing with my alignment, so it's all fresh to me. One more thing that I will point out... You can validate your rear thrust angle (i.e. which tells you if you have the same toe on left and right rear), by using a laser level placed across the rear rim pointed at a ruler that is attached to your front hub. First do one side and mark a line. The next side should point right to the same line. I used a circular magnet to hold the ruler inside the centre of the hub. If you have close to 0 toe on the front, it should be pretty accurate. If both sides are the same distance you have a 0 thrust angle, if one side is much farther out than the other, it is more toed out. NOTE: Due to the distance from the rear to the front, any amount you are off left/right will be magnified by the distance to the front hub, so don't be scared if you are off a hair (might was on the line, with a cheap laser that casts a wide dot). Cheers! EDIT: I went a different route on my build with respect to the washers. I essentially maxed out my camber with the lock plates, and I add or remove shims (and/or washers) on the upper arms to dial in/out camber. For me, this was much easier than rotating my camber lock-out plates.
@johnpublic168
@johnpublic168 Жыл бұрын
Caster has a big influence on toe curve
@SoloAscent
@SoloAscent Жыл бұрын
I felt everyone of those swears. Especially when you punched yourself in the face. Love the videos! Love the car.
@nurburgringdreaming2221
@nurburgringdreaming2221 Жыл бұрын
I forgot to torque the lugs once . When I realized it it scared the living daylights out of me thinking what if the worst would’ve happened. Lol
@BPF80MCar-vi1pg
@BPF80MCar-vi1pg Жыл бұрын
Holy shit it sounds wonderful
@jwb4bb
@jwb4bb Жыл бұрын
You have the patience of a Saint.....
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@seydzhchernopiski3122
@seydzhchernopiski3122 6 ай бұрын
Regarding bleeding brakes. Furthest from the master is not the way to go on these C6 Z06s. And using the motive power bleeder you can actually put up to two quarts of brake fluid into it so you dont have to keep topping off the res. Brake bleeding sequence as per FSM. Left front - right rear - left rear - right front. Inside bleeders first on the calipers and then outsides.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! I’ve had back luck in the past with loading the bleeder with fluid and then having the seal fail and fluid spray everywhere.
@seydzhchernopiski3122
@seydzhchernopiski3122 6 ай бұрын
@@JoshVanVeld try to get a new seal, I just used a motiv power bleeder on my grand sport (same brake system) at 15 psi (max recommended pressure) without any leaks. I also put about 1.5 quarts through the system because I wasn't sure how long ago the previous owner had the brake fluid in there but it looked terrible.
@JerryCecco
@JerryCecco Жыл бұрын
new suspensions need to settled too, before final dial in
@seethruhead7119
@seethruhead7119 Жыл бұрын
i'm sure you figured this out by now. but camber gets changed before you set the toe.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Don’t give me too much credit 😬 Thanks for the tip!
@devilish34
@devilish34 Жыл бұрын
you can put the fluid in the bleeder saves time and less chance of introducing air
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
I’ve tried it that way before and it creates a lot more mess to deal with, especially if the cap loses its seal. Never again! 😄
@andrewwiest4152
@andrewwiest4152 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loving the content and your methodical approach to things. Been considering the Delrin bushings for awhile now and after watching this I'll definitely be adding it to my winter projects along with the bump steer kit. By chance do you have a link to the camber bolts you went with?
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Here’s the camber kit I got: amtmotorsport.com/products/c6z-zr1-corvette-adjustable-camber-kit
@andrewwiest4152
@andrewwiest4152 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! @@JoshVanVeld
@mavricxx
@mavricxx Жыл бұрын
Wow, Corvette suspension is so complicated! Seems from Corvette videos I've seen, they're hard to work on for the most part. Suspension is a pain, Transmission is a pain, Driveshaft is a pain and now that I see it's suspension, Damn!
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
I haven't really worked in-depth on any other platform so I guess ignorance is bliss :)
@mavricxx
@mavricxx Жыл бұрын
@@JoshVanVeld Yeah but tell you what, suspension upgrades is the one upgrade you can immediately really feel the difference on and a satisfying feeling of accomplishment as well.
@terrancecollins2696
@terrancecollins2696 Жыл бұрын
Love videos like this
@wisdoma4860
@wisdoma4860 10 ай бұрын
I HAVE A GT3 and i had to Mod stuff up so Steering can be better feel. C6 Vettes are cheaper to MOD to become Stiffer and better...
@gregfrost8808
@gregfrost8808 9 ай бұрын
Any chance of posting links to the parts? You would save me a ton of time as I have to do the exact same change.
@marlo916
@marlo916 Жыл бұрын
"Blakes are bred" "flipping fricker" great one liners 😂
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
🤣
@Airsoftbros888
@Airsoftbros888 Жыл бұрын
Love the video brother! What lug nuts are you using to work with the oem wheels and skf wheel bearings. I'm currently doing a complete and total suspension upgrade but can find the right lugs
@SinghStationLLC
@SinghStationLLC 5 ай бұрын
Hope Ruthy found a forever home she looks like a sweet girl
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 5 ай бұрын
She is a sweetheart. We transferred her to a different foster and she’s been there for a long time now. Her adoption prospects aren’t great and she has some health issues due to damage to the roof of her mouth/sinuses but she’s safe and sound!
@SinghStationLLC
@SinghStationLLC 5 ай бұрын
@@JoshVanVeld Thank you for being a foster, is there anything we can do to help her?
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 5 ай бұрын
@@SinghStationLLC I’ll ask Nicole and follow up.
@ViperMods_216
@ViperMods_216 Жыл бұрын
Yessssss, but the alignment is going to get is straight
@thorvelasco1467
@thorvelasco1467 Жыл бұрын
Very nice build. I saw you torqued down the bushings before setting the car down on its wheels. On rubber bushings it causes them to rip or tear, does this also apply to delrin?
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Good eye. Obviously I'm not an expert but I think it's OK with Delrin because the control arms still articulate freely after being torqued, unlike the rubber, which wants to stay in position wherever it was when you tightened it.
@enelnelson
@enelnelson Жыл бұрын
Question: As you were doing those alignments up and down did you ever get a feel for the total suspension travel front and rear on the Vette. I ask because I mountain bike a lot and suspension travel is a huge thing in bikes and I can find almost no information with cars. It will also help me as I figure out where in it's travel to set my Vette Ride height wise. Anyway if you have that information I will be grateful. I tried to read it off the scales as you jacked the suspension up and down but I can not and I don't know if the scale is metric or imperial.
@yzScott
@yzScott Жыл бұрын
Monster update. Now I know why it's been a couple week. I like that camber kit. Losing those transverse leaf springs make working on the car so much nicer. It's almost as nice a benefit as the ride improvement. (going to coil overs) How do you feel about Delrin compared to spherical, now that you've driven it?
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
I feel good about the choice to go Delrin vs. spherical given how hard the material is and how smoothly the suspension articulates. When you consider it's cheaper than spherical and easier to install yourself it makes sense for me. I imagine the upgrade to spherical would be hard to notice but I can't say for sure without driving them back to back.
@yzScott
@yzScott Жыл бұрын
@@JoshVanVeld I love how quiet Delrin is. (besides the buttery smoothness)
@mattpollard7991
@mattpollard7991 Жыл бұрын
You may have been asked this already but can you add details regarding the rims and tires that you used? I'm taking my C6 Z06 to LS Fest East this year and need a good tire and rim set up for the road course...
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Wheel specs: Front: APEX EC-7RS Forged 18x11" ET38 Anthracite Rear: APEX Forged 18x12.5" ET52 Anthracite Tire specs: Front: Nankang AR-1 - 315/30ZR18 Rear: Nankang AR-1 - 335/30ZR18 I just noticed recently that I am getting some rub on the front brake ducts.
@scottjames1904
@scottjames1904 Жыл бұрын
Good video, it really encompasses the difficulties working on these cars. I like your approach to go after suspension initially. I’ve wondered about that bushing kit, it’s quite pricey and my c6z is really just a freeway/street toy but currently I’m battling traction while making 640rwhp, Im curious if that kit may add some traction. I’m all stock on suspension and haven’t quite figured out the direction to go there yet, although the engine is sbe but everything else built. Fun video to watch, you’ve motivated me to go fight with my stuck x pipe now.
@yzScott
@yzScott Жыл бұрын
I did not notice any traction difference from swapping to Delrin. I am making similar power to you. Regardless, you'll love Delrin bushing. What tires are you on?
@scottjames1904
@scottjames1904 Жыл бұрын
@@yzScott 345 30 19 r888r. 2nd gear blows em off at 4k, and 3rd feels like it wants to knock ‘em off higher in the rpm range. 1st is essentially useless.
@yzScott
@yzScott Жыл бұрын
@@scottjames1904 I would expect those 888s to be similar as Sport Cup 2s. 2nd gear is pretty good on these. I am really setting up for road course. I would need to go to drag radials to hook first. I'll just need to put up with spinning 1st on the demand.
@HoangTran-ir5pt
@HoangTran-ir5pt Жыл бұрын
I also have r888r. Have to really feather the throtle 1st gear with only 550rwhp@@scottjames1904
@drjimjam1112
@drjimjam1112 Жыл бұрын
Let’s me know how damn good the gt3 is from the factory.
@terrykaz5095
@terrykaz5095 Жыл бұрын
Well done.
@twin00104
@twin00104 Жыл бұрын
this video has been insanely helpful! I'm doing Delrin CA bushings, AMT camber and stud kit and DRM Bilstein shocks right now. A few tips: - 15mm, 18mm, 21mm and 24mm ratcheting box wrenches will help A LOT - PB Blaster and/or WD40 the stock lower control arm bushing area to help clean any crud out, then use a rubber mallet and pry bar to get out of the cradle. I hit the LCA a few times on each side from the top and sides to loosen. - I had to loosen (not remove) the 4x 13mm leaf spring bracket bolts to slightly lower the leaf spring so I could remove the front lower camber bolts. I have the front suspension completely out now, working on the rears later today/tomorrow and I don't think I'll need to completely remove the axle. Can anyone confirm?
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Probably not going to get much response in the comments, I might post in one of the C6 groups on FB or Corvette Forum.
@Z06Vette4B
@Z06Vette4B 7 ай бұрын
1. What are you using as a brake hose stopper? 2. Are the front swaybar bolts anything special given the mag cradle?
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 7 ай бұрын
I got a bag of assorted sizes of silicone tapered cone shaped plugs from Amazon that work great for plugging brake lines. I can’t recall anything special about the sway bar bolts. Most stuff that touches the magnesium has a sleeve or shim but I’m drawing a blank on the sway bar bolts. I could google it but where’s the fun in that?
@pyryvirrantaus2997
@pyryvirrantaus2997 Жыл бұрын
Unless you already have them, better engine & transmission mounts (like Hinsons) make a huge difference
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Do they add a lot of noise, vibration, harshness?
@pyryvirrantaus2997
@pyryvirrantaus2997 Жыл бұрын
Not really. A must for track focused car.
@CodeBlueNurburgringAtom
@CodeBlueNurburgringAtom Жыл бұрын
CodeBlue has Pfadt engine and transmission mounts. I’m sure you remember they weren’t too harsh at all. But made a huge difference with response.
@SuperChipperson
@SuperChipperson 7 ай бұрын
I got a 2011 GS and been thinking of doing coilovers...so you think this 'ruins' the natural feel/ride of the C6?
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 7 ай бұрын
I don't have a ton of experience driving C6's on coilovers but they can definitely improve the ride/handling when you get the right setup and get it dialed in. Coilovers weren't at the top of my to-list, but they'll probably reach the top at some point.
@gigi9467
@gigi9467 Жыл бұрын
How much was all the parts for this video?
@oggreek9643
@oggreek9643 Жыл бұрын
Josh, what are you oil temps when spirited driving or track day? I just got my Z06 and wondering if my temps are OK after some spirited driving.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Good question, I'm not sure. Hopefully I'll be going out to the track again soon and I'll follow up with some details.
@oggreek9643
@oggreek9643 Жыл бұрын
@@JoshVanVeld water Temps would be good too
@ivanvujosevic289
@ivanvujosevic289 Жыл бұрын
Hey, what’s your take on the control arm bushings now that you’ve had them for a while. Improvements? Negatives? Louder/quieter? Better steering feel/feedback? Curious on your thoughts on them and id they were worth the $. Debating on getting them myself
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
I felt like they offer a lot of upside in terms of steering feel and no discernible downside as far as noise / vibration / harshness. Unfortunately it’s really hard to A-B test something like that unless you had two identical cars to drive back to back. But I’m very pleased with that purchase.
@ivanvujosevic289
@ivanvujosevic289 Жыл бұрын
totally agree. Anything in particular that kept you from going the full monoball route? @@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
@@ivanvujosevic289 Cost and I liked that I could completely DIY the install with the Delrin.
@CeJay07
@CeJay07 Жыл бұрын
Bilstein front id:24-029773, what is the id number rear stock?
@jwb4bb
@jwb4bb Жыл бұрын
Also, my wife would have served me papers if I spend 8 days on my car.... "You spend more time with the Corvette than me!!"
@steveowens913
@steveowens913 Жыл бұрын
I didn't notice, did he put a "racing seat in for Wifey also?"
@toddclark9505
@toddclark9505 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious...on your Apex wheels...did you go with the factory 18/19 or did you go with 18's at all 4 corners? Thanks for the content!
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
18s all around - the specs are in this video's description: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHuamKZrha2sfKs
@sandstone4128
@sandstone4128 Жыл бұрын
get a creeper, which will make your life a lot easier.
@ianalvarado8289
@ianalvarado8289 Жыл бұрын
Does you car have any lifter noise? I also have a ‘07 stock with some slight lifter tick and I’m trying to figure out how common it is.
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
I can hear some noise from the valve train but with sounds it’s so hard to measure / describe / compare.
@svm3jt
@svm3jt 9 ай бұрын
Josh, what ball joint separator tool did you use?
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 9 ай бұрын
I believe it’s the pittsburgh one from Harbor freight but it needed to be enlarged a bit to fit. I found it on a corvetteforum thread.
@CornFedZ06
@CornFedZ06 7 ай бұрын
Does the delrin make any noise in the street?
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 7 ай бұрын
Not that I’ve noticed.
@UniqueAerial
@UniqueAerial Жыл бұрын
Is the dog a rescue or sick??
@roberttracy1008
@roberttracy1008 9 ай бұрын
What quick jack are you using?
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 9 ай бұрын
QuickJack BL-5000SLX. I got it on sale at Costco over 3 years ago, it looks like that model has been discontinued since then. I believe I heard that the replacement gets the car higher off the ground.
@BPF80MCar-vi1pg
@BPF80MCar-vi1pg Жыл бұрын
A just got som apex sm10 's for my bmw f80
@shize9ine
@shize9ine Жыл бұрын
59:03 - coil overs incoming.
@paulkeplinger3565
@paulkeplinger3565 Жыл бұрын
thank you
@carlosbarragan1673
@carlosbarragan1673 Жыл бұрын
There are special alignment shops go there. 😂 Easyier
@TomLukach-ht5zs
@TomLukach-ht5zs Жыл бұрын
I had an 06 DTS named Goldie lol
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын
Great minds think alike 🤣
@JerryCecco
@JerryCecco Жыл бұрын
find an raceshop alignment
@CodeBlueNurburgringAtom
@CodeBlueNurburgringAtom Жыл бұрын
You gotta take it to Gabe at GTE.
@woomdawg
@woomdawg 10 ай бұрын
Dude do yourself a favor and some cordless electric power tools. Life will be so much easier.
@SJJNAMARTIN
@SJJNAMARTIN 11 ай бұрын
IS IT REALLY A GT-3 KILLER??? OR IS THAT KZbin TITLE HYPE?????????????
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 11 ай бұрын
Thank goodness you're out there saving us from clickbait! 🤣🤣🤣
@SJJNAMARTIN
@SJJNAMARTIN 11 ай бұрын
@@JoshVanVeld Thank goodness your engine blew and not mine 🤣🤣🤣
@JoshVanVeld
@JoshVanVeld 11 ай бұрын
@@SJJNAMARTIN Low blow!
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