Dokibird & Selen Tatsuki Dance intro Side by side comparison

[@sadaderlangga17]

The phrase "we're so back" is perfect for Doki

[@mrparkx2]

Ngl, this whole kurosanji drama is really benefiting matara, rain, and doki a lot. Which is good. Free promotion. I honestly don't know what the kuro ceo is thinking. He seems to be misunderstanding the entertainment business model. It's not like other business where you have products and employees are just a replaceable asset. Entertainment businesses main asset are it's talents. I honestly don't know why a guy who's been in the industry for so long doesn't seem to get this. He should stop making enemies out of his talents. It would also prevent many future talented people from applying

[@Potatoras]

l​@@mrparkx2 kurosanji digged its own grave the moment they disrespectes their talents and used their current idola as meat shield because of their horrible management assignments base purely on the sheer amount of debuts they do yearly

[@mrparkx2]

@@Potatoras poor management ayyy.... you'd be surprised by how many previous fans or low key current fans are saying this is sad because now hololive would be the 1 top and companies would follow them somewhat. Apparently, nojisanji's management was good as well because they let their talents grow on their own... I say that's bad management but to each their own I guess.

[@L16htW4rr10r]

​@@mrparkx2I guess in Japan some black companies often do this and can easily get away with it

[@tsuaririndoku]

@@mrparkx2Maid Mint as well, somewhat

[@axios4702]

Of all the Niji survivors it feels like Doki is the one that has fought the hardest to recover as much of her old identity as possible.

[@ylioch.666]

she is just staying as who she is, all these things were never the company's and she doesn't need to take it back from anyone

[@ThePontiffofPonWolf]

I'd argue Sayu did too her new model practically Cyborg offbrand Zaion even down to the lore video of an unnamed entity ripping her apart and rebuilding her to suit their needs aka Niji

[@neekumikuvt328]

She was always her. Kurojanji can and will never take that away

[@GoldenFenrir]

Definitely not Sayu

[@emperorofthecosmos4640]

@@ThePontiffofPonWolf I mean if we’re going off lore than U-san’s is pretty damn similar, singer gets murdered by a group of similar looking individuals and somehow comes back in a vague manner

[@warpstarrogue3554]

I love how the Doki Dance™️ is much more snappy than the original. Makes it feel more alive in a way.

[@mgallogical7114]

that's what happens when you pay your artists and let them cook

[@NamelesS-a]

​@@mgallogical7114 didnt dokibird pay them ?

[@First-to-last]

​@@NamelesS-aI think they mean niji

[@Gameboy0001]

@@NamelesS-a Chances are Niji was supposed to foot the bill or payment had to go through them, which we know they're terrible at, so she'd have to pay them herself after they were forced to wait long enough since she cares about those she commissions.

[@DokiDokiAviaryClub]

Almost like she seems more alive now that she’s free from that… company

[@Jonewii]

She just regenerated like Doctor Who.

[@yui4779]

Now that I've just realised that god damn you're right! Thank you Bowser😅😅

[@Jonewii]

@@yui4779 imo regeneration should be just normalize as a term when Vtuber persona retires and real human behind them takes new model.

[@raynardsalim4458]

Doki is her david tennant

[@RHTQ1]

The term reincarnation is very anime-esque tho XD

[@yui4779]

@@Jonewii Except Doki had her model since she originally debuted so before the Selen Tatsuki era

[@blze0018]

I love how the first segment things are different, but then the second segment she straight up uses the same movements just animated slightly differently.

[@gemstonegynoid7475]

It is based on a free use template

[@ghosterino]

Including the music?

[@sakuraryuji01]

@@ghosterino yes including the music

[@sebrussell]

@@gemstonegynoid7475 Is it free use, or did she just get permission from the og artist (for the animation, I know the music is free use)?

[@BlueSatoshi]

​@@sebrussellThe animation was done by the same artist.

[@Amadeus_A]

We may have lost Selen, but we've gained Dokibird.

[@yui4779]

Dokibird actually started the timeline. Then she graduated in 2021 when she got accepted into NijisanjiEN as Selen Tatsuki. Fast forward to February 5th 2024 and Selen gets the boot and the yatch starts sinking and Dokibird returns *SPOILER ALERT!* The yatch is still sinking

[@HansenSebastian]

@@yui4779 How so? The NijiEN yacht is *_RISING!_* ...Slowly...but surely.

[@yui4779]

@@HansenSebastian Elira, Ike and Vox haven't streamed for 2 months now

[@hakurei_mikorei]

@@HansenSebastianyou are a fool for saying such. The yacht is sinking and everyone is jumping.

[@grimrapper5202]

​@@HansenSebastian* looks at stock * ...i don't think so

[@dekze262]

you can take my money, you can take my dignity, but you can't take my identity and fans. doki bread.

[@paperbagblossom]

I like to believe their just dancing together in infinite harmony

[@CyberA-7864]

I like to believe that too

[@elektra8535]

While a girl is "stealing" her life piece for piece i can hear a distant cry of japanese business man on a yacht

[@Setsuna012]

I just hope when Doki evolves again, the head wings and Yoai hand return in all thier glory!

[@Unbelievablyunfunny]

I hope that when nijikuro finally goes bankrupt they release all the live2d models of the livers and make it so that anyone can use it so that dokibird can finally use her old model again (and also can talk freely about nijikuro stuff)

[@K9L_IA]

I doubt doki would even wants to use Old model if she could, had memories and stuff

[@raisofahri5797]

​@@Unbelievablyunfunnyniji is sadly way too big in Japan there is no way they're gonna go bankrupt suddenly. but en branch is another story if they think en is no longer profitable they will close it down and merge en liver to main branch

[@tetov1620]

"SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!" *Doki laugh*

[@otakueve117]

I see you have learned the way of Thick lines in the outside, thin lines in the inside.

[@lkou_jj]

i see what you did there 👀

[@iyorom]

Omg the marikyuun reference 😭

[@otakueve117]

I love her so much!

[@oak..]

marikyuun!

[@kaerusustar]

"who's selen?" - dokibird, 2024

[@yui4779]

..... what planet are you from? Just google it

[@sanguillotine]

@@yui4779they’re quoting doki

[@SigurdStormhand]

@@yui4779 I think they're meming. Official word is Dokibird has NO IDEA who this "Selen" person is. Any similarities are coincidental.

[@Axion97Player]

On one of Doki's stream, someone on the voice call accidentally called her Selen, and she responded, "who the f* is that?"

[@stromtgm3505]

@@yui4779BOOOOO unless you're making another reference too

[@hartantoanggoro]

Born a bird, evolved into a dragon, dying and reborn as a bird.

[@ShadowCatGaming26]

And I thought Kiara was the only Phoenix VTuber here

[@gilgamesh255]

​@@ShadowCatGaming26So...that would make Doki...what, a Tomato Phoenix? Phoenix Tomato?

[@nanamacapagal8342]

"Born, Trans -figured- formed, died, resurrected" Any time I see the word "reborn" I make the connection with Jesus Christ and I don't know why

[@math_build]

There was always a tomato inside.

[@Saao_09]

You mean reborn as a tomato?

[@princkleminckle1159]

0:23 similarities began

[@Wolf_TheLoneOne]

I guess this is her way of saying "I might have a different face, but I'm still the same person you know."

[@PogMcDog]

Left adds more frames and second round mimics the original, but keeping the start different is a nice touch.

[@TheKeller101]

more frames, Doki must be so happy

[@mr.j0368]

there is something relieving about NOT having the Nijisanji logo in the intro

[@iamnoob6900]

Selen: Look at me I'm cute Doki with smug: look at me I'm the champion

[@rodffx]

Doki making sure that her past self will always be linked to her is such a power move, while her time niji was hell for her and others she is not ashamed of who she was in the contrary she is proud of who she was, the recognition she had and the achievements she managed to get are all hers and no one can take them away from her!

[@friendlypunk8975]

Personally I think the Doki dance should be 2024-2XXX since we’re obviously still gonna be watching 700 years from now

[@benjaminwood8736]

Nah, 2024-XXXX

[@Zyart]

@@benjaminwood8736 2024-XXXXX

[@Serges6578]

There will be another version when Doki gets her new skinsuit,

[@alexandergonyea4642]

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[@Butter_Warrior99]

I’m now seeing General Shepard as a grizzled Vtuber watcher.

[@afikkusan]

Bro why am I reading this in General Shepherd voice????

[@suspicion1352]

“Boundaries shift. New players step in, but power always finds a way to rest its head.”

[@lastlight7423]

@@suspicion1352 We fought and bled alongside the Sisters; we should've known they’d hate us for it.

[@mariowiiluigi1919]

She will be her, no matter what

[@yesthatpaul]

You can tell the animator threw in way more detail for the Doki dance. The Selen dance, by comparison, has that Flash animation feel of a single still image being rotated and translated along vector points.

[@vinculaomega5283]

As well as the pet having more unique animation. The Selen pet basically only flap wings and headbop.

[@CyberA-7864]

I might be analysing this a bit too much, but I can kinda see some symbolism after comparing the dancing patterns of both animations. (0:00 - 0:24) Selen's pattern from this 1st verse of the song, she always uses that exact same pattern for every verse of the song, so the patterns is very "limited". But Doki's patterns from each verse are always "new/different". It kinda symbolizes that when she was still in nijisanji, Selen was very "limited" with her resources and content making because of certain rules and contracts the company has. But when she finally leaves and returns to being Doki, she's finally a free bird and can now make "new/different" content that she always wanted to make. (0:37 - 1:01) Then the patterns from this 2nd verse of the song, Doki's pattern now matches with Selen's. It symbolizes that at the end of the day, it's still her. I saw a comment earlier that perfectly describes it. "I might have a different face, but I'm still the same person you know". And lastly, this is most favorite symbolism yet. (1:38 - 1:49) Doki's pattern from this Last verse of the song is similar to her 1st one, but it is changed so that the pose of "Doki showing off her Dragoons" will be shown last (this pose 1:46). It kinda symbolizes that Doki is thanking her Dragoons for supporting her and always being by her side from beginning till the end 😁 Intentional or not, the animator is still a genius :D

[@yui4779]

I'm one of Doki's new Dragoons because I only discovered her after she was given the boot from Niji. Btw how do you like my profile pic

[@CyberA-7864]

​@@yui4779 If that's the case, then welcome to the Dragoon community :D Btw, the profile pic is nice 👍

[@yui4779]

​@@CyberA-7864 Ah thank you I did know her when she was Selen Tatsuki as well in October 2022 I only knew Selen for like a year and a half. I still wonder why Doki chose the form of a tomato I don't wanna be all annoying orange but I'd hate to see her tomato form become ketchup.

[@AgentVector13]

Both intro are honestly really cute, its help my day a lot when she got her old intro back

[@GodlessVoice]

Doki:"Nah. I win. All your bases now belong to me!"

[@ekozoidmajiker6186]

it's strange, I read this in her voice

[@GodlessVoice]

@@ekozoidmajiker6186 Goddamn it! Now I only hear her voice when i'm reading my own text! And now I hear her giggling after saying it! *grumbles*

[@yui4779]

Don't you mean "All of your base are belong to us"

[@WigglesAnansiCh]

"The losses will be negligible" SAY THAT AGAIN LOUDER I DON'T THINK THE STOCK VALUES HEARD YOU!

[@yui4779]

Have you tried turning your volume up? Works for me

[@broku7790]

Both are so perfect.

[@yui4779]

Indeed they're

[@imadethistopostponi]

*it's you* *despite everything, it's still you*

[@Chris-jx4ij]

I like how it looks like Doki is hyping up the dragoon like at 0:14 and how the dragoon is hyping her up as well during the walkaround section.

[@GM_Lemmy]

I was really happy to see this intro return!

[@immortallegacy100]

You're doing the Lord's work. Thank you, friend.

[@yui4779]

Thank you kindly

[@-Raylight]

It's even cuter. We're even cuter than before. Look at that adorable dance moves 😭😭🤣

[@THE-DIESEL999]

The Doki version looks so much smoother, snappier and more colorful!

[@MariLilypads1PaintbrushSTAN]

Wait omg the Dokibird ver is so much cuter!??!?!

[@darklord1366]

WE RISE FROM THE ASHES AND WE RAISW THE DOKI FLAG IN THE NAME OF FREEDOM!!! WE’RE BACK!!! AND WE ARENT FALLING FOR NIJISANJI’S BS!!!

[@pierredelapotterie5996]

I like the Selen better, but Doki is fine still. Man Doki got back everything, her audience, her dragoons, her 🏆, her YT playbutton, her intro. She won, she just needs to stream so that her previous life is nothing more than a memory.

[@Setsuna012]

I agree, but I don't want Selen Tatsuki to just a memory that gets forgot, she achieved a lot despite the hardships, and I want people to at least remember those times with fondness like me. Not to mention I can't look at fanart of Selen (Mainly lunar fairy and ocean law stuff and not feel happy and nostalgic.)

[@Copperkaiju]

I think it's important to keep her past accomplishments alive. She worked hard for them and should be more than just a memory. Now I'm having flashes of Doki holding a vey long sword and flying towards me menacingly.

[@thebluesuit8239]

In my darkest “It’s so over”, I found within myself an infinite “We’re so back”

[@Alexandragon1]

New one is so much better! We're so back! Thx for the comparison video!

[@leon0572]

I really love this intro of hers

[@BigNothingMonsterMan]

Man this video really popped off for you! Congrats!

[@yui4779]

Thanks bro 😊👍

[@TheTSense]

Can't wait for these two to meet

[@jamesb3497]

They totally should collab.

[@XilvezFpe]

​@@jamesb3497.... They are the same person....

[@koljava]

​@@XilvezFpe The joke went over your head, eh?

[@XilvezFpe]

@@koljava lemme bffr I didint know if they were joking or just dumb alr

[@JoyceKim-j1n]

@@XilvezFpe prob just joking lol

[@hakurei_mikorei]

WE BACK BOYS!!!!!!

[@thor2070]

I am glad that Dokibird got her old intro song back.

[@nightlust]

Darker inner colour, lighter outline for the clouds borders Inverted diagonals for the BG Different animations Yup, she's going all in ❤🏆

[@atlas3933]

this honestly made me tear up, so happy to have her back

[@omrmajeed]

I like the new one even better, it has less repeating animations and is more varied. Plus as a bonus it has us dragoons in it.

[@Mixylocrian]

Sora & Roxas after defeating the Organization:

[@chaosknight9131]

"The more things change, the more they stay the same" - Jean-Baptiste

[@5hark906]

Just as beautiful as the day we lost her.

[@Selen_Tatsuki_CSIS]

You did already Yuí, your great my dear Gal. 👩‍❤️‍👩

[@yui4779]

Thank you!

[@n0denz]

I love this track so much. Would love an entire album of music like this.

[@TheMultiForge]

Dokis looks like it goes so much harder, the outer ring is bigger, the pulses when she claps are bigger. She is better than before

[@Wazaraku]

"we're doing a sequel" ... GODDAMN IT DOKI IS NOW IN MY HEAD!

[@OneBiasedOpinion]

Love how the new one is just a much higher quality version of the original. Someone hooked her up REAL good with this one, and she deserves every bit of it!

[@christoboy1000]

The biggest middle finger in the industry. I fucken love it

[@AnglerfishAsylum]

It's both sad and funny that this would not be possible if it was simply paid for the first time round

[@Setsuna012]

What do you mean?

[@AnglerfishAsylum]

The original animation was made from a combination of commissioned work (paid for by Doki) and copyright free music. It's ironic justice that Niji's refusal to pay for anything has allowed Doki to reclaim her identity so completely.

[@Setsuna012]

@@AnglerfishAsylum Its why Selen-Doki is an amazing person.

[@merlin0552]

I'm so happy seeing Doki's intro

[@selen_tatsuki2.0]

I love both of them Equally 😍💗

[@yui4779]

Okay hi Selen

[@selen_tatsuki2.0]

@@yui4779 hey 👉😜👈

[@yui4779]

@@selen_tatsuki2.0 Something tells me that you ain't Selen but, welcome

[@quangtuantran7181]

Went from a dinosaur to a chicken, but deep down, we r so back

[@Krmiby]

Her twin tails moving with the beat makes it even better

[@faenethlorhalien]

I'm happy she got out of that hellhole, even though it was at a huge cost for her, and I'm really happy she got to keep the music, the style of the intro and the name Dragoons.

[@yui4779]

I'm glad she got out too, she also got keep everything. The fan name, the loading screen and BGM and the Dragoon design but tweaked a bit.

[@DeViceCrimsin_]

Selen: I do the funny. Doki: I mastered the funny.

[@sashabrauss1712]

I was waiting for this

[@wntrwolfx]

i like selen's character design more, but i love the dokibird intro so so so much more

[@UBvtuber]

I'm the opposite cause i actually love Doki's design very early on, it looked a lot like Barbara from genshin impact. But now, it looks more like a sassy french thief..... which is fitting considering her lore. lol

[@StarHeaven07]

Looking at the year ranges... Bold of you to assume she can be contained by this century.

[@StarHeaven07]

Also; insane "final product" vs "rough draft" energy here

[@Kaeru_Hex]

A masterpiece is a masterpiece no matter the change

[@ethanfreeman1106]

I don't know why I'm tearing up, but i do know these are tears of happiness 😭

[@RTMARK32]

I laughed a lot when I saw this intro yesterday I saw doki's vod and then he uploaded it as a normal video

[@21BearPapa]

You can never take anything from us, Kurosanji. We can take it back.

[@Montegoraon]

Brings a literal tear to my eye.

[@Khandrake]

like watching nature heal

[@DeoWatcher-tn1bk]

Despite of everything, it's still you.

[@Kurugakima-Hyri]

You dare assume doki can't live until 3024!

[@papita_vTuberFan]

not even to 2100. Let's keep watching Doki as 100+ yo grandmas and grandpas

[@shub125]

Aww doki did a tribute to selen. Sweet :) Edit: saw a clip with more context about the into glad doki's winning.

[@XilvezFpe]

YEAH YEAH DEFINITELY

[@shub125]

@@XilvezFpe what are you talking about they're obviously different ;)

[@XilvezFpe]

@@shub125 OH FUCK OH WAIT

[@brucejedilee5290]

Not only are we back but we are better

[@happyhippoeaters4261]

Definitely prefer the Doki Model Skin Suit over the Selen model skin suit

[@Erik_Emer]

I like Selen’s actions, but I also like Doki’s liveliness.

[@dr.bright6272]

Ah memories

[@featherlan]

I just noticed, the Doki version has a bit where she's hyping up the dragoon, that is missing from the original

[@Serges6578]

Doki version has extra moves.

[@silverdrift2212]

We are so back

[@yui4779]

We indeed are

[@mrparkx2]

​@MisterUmbra2kXxu mean the artist got better over the years so

[@TheJjcczz]

The new one is a lot more grounded while the old one is a lot more fluid which makes sense for the characters

[@therandomcommunityguy]

the bird that became a dragon get terminated but turn into a bird again thats why i called going back to old roots love to see

[@tsuaririndoku]

Yacht despite it being sunk, but we can salvage some good stuff on it. And this is one of them.

[@goukenslay7555]

everything is perfect

[@bennitori4]

Although the line art on the original is better, the expressions are better on the new one. And the animations on the new dragoon are just too adorable for words.

[@mashi81]

I love how it's just slightly different.

[@Dorian_Scott]

I actually cried happy tears after seeing Doki re-use her old intro screen. It's so iconic and the Doki's animation is slightly better.

[@123jolak]

I never realized that it was actually two phases before it goes to guitar

[@SashaYamato]

Just to rub on niji's face, not only taking her dragoons back but the intro as well, the fact that niji branded doki as niji's number 1 enemy is proof that niji is the saltiest black company :3

[@smashbrolink]

Doki seems so much happier.❤

[@elianwyn]

I hope Doki inspires more vtuber corporation casualties to keep their online identity after cutting ties. The idea of having a corporation own your entire online identity is pretty messed up even when they're not Niji levels of corrupt.

[@solune7914]

We are SO back

[@aethersword7823]

NGL Doki's version is a much bigger improvement than when she was Selen

[@Joshuamiller19570]

I love how much she improved on her old Intro, The Dokibird version has her hyping up her "Fan" the little Dragoon constantly, Which is something she does a LOT of the time for her fans, Her old Intro didn't have that much cheering from Selen's side of things. Still love both of them though ^_^

[@KillerF0x]

obviously she personally owns the music and animation and got to take it with her. Its such a great piece of media for stream.

[@MiishaKorvian]

The song is royalty free, free use. Thus, while she doesn't actually own it, neither does Nijikuro XD

[@Supev_]

It's sad they didn't get to collab with each other.

[@yui4779]

They're the same person IRL but Doki is Selen's independent form

[@chunchunmaru935]

​@@yui4779 How do you keep falling for these. Are you slow😂

[@John_Smith_Dumfugg]

I can't tell you how much it means to me that this song is still hers

[@Secantz105]

The club remix to Selen intro looks pretty good!

[@MelvinDRosaria]

I love that Dokibird has a way bigger smile. Understandable with everything she went through. Now she got her intro, dance animation and Apex skins back!!! We're so back and she's winning so much ever since 💛🏆.

[@yui4779]

Indeed we are back 💛🏆

[@Syrius_Li]

I’m honestly happy that she’s doing so well after getting terminated. Good on Doki