Dominate Your Lydian Dominants | You'll Hear It

Are you ready to DOMINATE your lydian dominants? You will be after this instruction from Peter Martin and Adam Maness.
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[@_sonicfive]

Adam brings structure while Peter brings the always look ahead chaos that keeps things moving forward. That's a great partnership right there.

[@MrJellyton]

I feel so refreshed with you guys starting in Db. My theory teacher always starts the class in c major and it can be so far from stimulating sometimes. Lovin' the podcast as usual! Be safe, be healthy!

[@jazzyoutfit6670]

hi, i'm sorry having to disappoint you, but it's totally obvious that the guys chose Db7#11 for demonstration as that's the tritone sub for the V chord in C MAJOR - they just forgot to mention ;-) best, andy

[@clintjones9848]

^ Actually, they mention several times that they were resolving to Gb as the 1, so sorry to disappoint you.

[@peteypablo09]

@@jazzyoutfit6670 no need to be condescending. Also, they say themselves in the video that they are in Gb

[@Nootlest]

@@clintjones9848 what's your deal lol

[@clintjones9848]

:D

[@tijanireiziger]

Every musician needs a friend like Adam Maness, He knows all the theory. :)) Thank you guys, you really complement each other.

[@henriquealejandro7247]

Wow the little blues improvisation is too cool. He floats through those changes so nicely and the whole mood changes when he goes from mixo to lyd dom

[@MusikeXavier]

I love this show! It makes me feel like a regular guy listening to a sports radio or TV show, but instead of sport (which I don't really like that much), they talk about my favorite subject in the entire universe and my life: Music!! Genius!

[@garfd2]

Another observation: Lyd Dom (4th Mel Min mode) is a tritone away from Alt (7th Mel Min mode). 10:33 I just noticed that for a V/V in F, the A triad over the G7 root/shell can move down to either Ab/C7, matching C alt or Ab/Gb7, matching Gb Lyd Dom Either way, tritone substitution or V, you're borrowing from the same Db Melodic Minor... before landing on F again.

[@jazzyoutfit6670]

... or upwards to Bb/G which is Gm7 or Bb/C which is C7sus, and then e.g. Ab/C7 and then Gb/C7 which both are C7alt. best, andy

[@martinlehfeldt6916]

Peter was funny in this video. That smoothie was helping him break free.

[@jazzyoutfit6670]

hey Peter, hey Adam, i'd like to add 2 further very common domains for lydian dominants: 1. bVII7 - often referred to as the 'backdoor dominant'. in the key of C this would be Bb7#11. The lydian dominant scale would share most of the notes of the C major scale, except Bb and Ab. i think of this chord/scale as a derivate of the minor subdominant of the key (which would be Fm6 with a melodic minor scale). 2. IV7 - the lydian dominant is also often used as a variation of the regular subdominant - which would be Fmaj7 with a lydian scale - by flattening its major7 (E) to dominant7 (Eb) while keeping all the other notes of the C major scale (F7#11 with F lydian dominant scale), you get a nice tension to move back from when coming back to the I chord. Also, when using the lydian dominant on the II chord (as a V of V), it's very convincing to resolve it to the regular IIm7 first before going to the V chord. think of *take the 'a' train*, where the #11 of the II7#11 chord is given by the melody followed by the 5th of the IIm7 chord. best, andy

[@loupgarou39]

What do you call that when you look at minor subdominants? Someone I've studied with calls this "harmonic regions." For an example, in the key of C C Root region Cmaj7 Em7 Am7 Dominant G7 Bm7b5 Em Subdominant maj Fmaj7 Bbmaj7 Dm7 Subdominant min Fm7 Fm6 (Dm7b5 add 9, 11) FmM7 Bbsus Bb9 Abmaj7 Dbmaj7 Cm Root region Cm Ebmaj7 Gm7 Dominant G7 G7b13 Bm7b5 Relative maj Ebmaj7 Subdominant Abm7 Abm6 AbmM7 Fm7b5 add 9, 11 Dbsus Db7 Bmaj7 Emaj7 The dominant and subdominant are interchangeable and any of the dominant and subdominant paths can resolve to either Cmaj and Cm. I'm trying to make sense of all this, maybe you could help me.

[@jazzyoutfit6670]

@@loupgarou39 hi Brandon, thanks for asking me. maybe your question arose as i mentioned the 'minor subdominant'... if you were 'beaten round the head' with just that list without further detail on how to apply it, i'd hesitate to call that 'teaching'. maybe you were not - who am i to judge. i don't mean that concept is wrong or worthless, i think it's just too wide-ranging to be put in a nutshell like that. if you can't make sense of any part of that concept, why further bother about it. if there are parts that are grasped by you, stay with those. to get back to the 'minor subdominant' (in major keys!) - i think of it as of an extension of the regular (major) subdominant - or the 'subdominant region' as you called it. in the key of C, the 'plagal cadence' (amen cadence) would be F - C, or Fmaj7 - Cmaj7. you could extend the subdominant region by inserting the minor subdominant before resolving to the I chord: Fmaj7 - Fm6 - Cmaj7. you could then replace the IVm6 chord by bVII7 (which is in fact the same voice-leading with just another bass note) Fmaj7 - Bb7#11 - Cmaj7. also, you could replace the I chord by IIIm7 (an extension of the 'tonic region') Fmaj7 - Fm6 - Em7 or Fmaj7 - Bb7#11 - Em7. An example to use these possibilities is *All of Me*, bars 25-27. best, andy

[@loupgarou39]

@@jazzyoutfit6670 It's a concept that I keep discovering new things off. Sure it's challenging but it definitely broadens my concept of V-! or tension and release. I'm trying to find out if people call this something different or if there are different ways of looking at it. Ah! I see! The iv7 (and the bVII7) can replace V7 as a "back door" progression. Are you familiar with Barry Harris' Family of Dominants? It says that V7 chord can be replaced by dominant 7th chords that are a minor 3rd a part. For an example, in the key of C major the family of dominants would be G7, Bb7, Db7, E7. You can look at their related ii7 chords and find that they would ordinarily resolve to either the C or it's relative minor (Am) by being either a V7 or bII7 chord. Sorry for the long post. I'm excited to nerd out with someone about jazz theory during this quarantine.

[@jazzyoutfit6670]

@@loupgarou39 very welcome to nerding out ;-) as you mentioned barry harris - i love to listen to him playing, but i've to admit that i can hardly listen to his talks any more - all the moaning and groaning about everybody's ignorance and how the new kids on the block like miles, trane, herbie, wayne etc. did it all wrong tends to make me grumpy myself - sorry for that. best, andy

[@loupgarou39]

@@jazzyoutfit6670 I had no idea thought those cats were doing it wrong. I like some of his concepts but I got interested in his theory through Sheryl Bailey.

[@alicetinoco9113]

This came in the right time!!! I’m studying my Lydian Dominants right now

[@Batsinthebelltower]

0:12 that descending pattern is epic

[@frenchef7]

6:55 love that lick! I'm gonna practice it in all scales and then do variations on it

[@TheKlikko]

frenchef7 bill Evans

[@frenchef7]

@@TheKlikko I love Bill Evans. Can you think of any particular example of him playing something similar?

[@smoothenbol]

OK I just say it: I deeply love your classes. The humor, the connection, the essence of jazz: you guys are killing it in every video.

[@dannyrabin]

Thanks guy. We live in an era where knowledge is very accessible. It has come a long way from when I had to save up my money as a student for Aebersold play along books and transcription ect. Everything is out. Thanks for the sharing.

[@Samuelee97]

Your level is mindblowing guys... The blues with lyd dom was wow. This sucks because it makes me want to transcribe it all knowing that i cant do it ahahah. Great!

[@StephenAntKneeBk5]

Great concepts and playing, as always. Great setup, too. I use the Lydian Chromatic Concept by George Russel and this fits very well within that system. For anyone just learning minor scales, note this. Take a Major Scale and raise the tonic note a half-step, you get the melodic minor scale a whole step above the original, unaltered tonic note. I found this a very easy way to play begin playing (years ago) melodic minor scales. CDEFGABC (C Major) becomes C#DEFGABC#D (D Melodic Minor). It's one little side bit of wisdom I found in George's book. Thanks for the lessons and inspiration.

[@bobzullo8050]

I'm a guitar player who is really just coming to understand these deeper sounds, and you guys just KILLED IT! Of course the playing is spectacular, and the note choices fantastic, but you can hear the Mozart/mathematical perfection of these sounds. GREAT lesson!!!

[@paulsmith6090]

Another great channel! I thought there was only Aimee Nolte but you guys rock! 👏

[@josephlavecchia8069]

Loved this one. For us theory heads out there, tell Adam he can go as deep as he wants! 😎

[@andrewboldi47]

Always love those intro battles!

[@ryanaudy6533]

Adam and Peter at it AGAIN! This was super helpful, thanks guys!

[@loupgarou39]

I love your content. One of the best channels for the practicing jazz musician!

[@kevinsavo718]

I love this podcast and the rub between Peter and Adam

[@kevinthekozakian]

That part about adding just a little bit of tension at thanksgiving dinner was a riot!….😂

[@rodneygolden2796]

George Russell, probably the most recording noted exponent of the Lydian concept, this whole subject matter reminds me of him, however this tutorial is authoritative, via conversational approach teaching method Thanks.

[@thestraynetwork]

Thank you gentlemen, this came at the perfect time for me!

[@atereolusola2497]

I appreciate this a whole LOT learnt so much, had to jot things down

[@jarbasgoulartdecastro9104]

i LOVE oPEN sTUDIO !

[@peoriaos6627]

Very interesting video. I like the way the dissonant personality mixes with the tonic. Very fun to watch.

[@anthonyjrtummino3819]

one of my favorite lessons so far, so useful

[@DojoOfCool]

My old teacher used say lydian dominant was what to use on non-resloving dominants. Resolving dominants almost anything works.

[@OM-md6ki]

I like videos with both of you the most

[@johnjacquard2182]

I think of it as 2 min7b5 a whole tone about just because you can use min6 inversions stacked wholetone so really cool triad pairs that way Dmin7/ G7/ C6 Dmin6 Emin6 flipping through descending inversions up one down other with drop 4 ( with arpeggios in between the drop 2 voicings) Then again you can use Abmin6 Bbmin6 in same way ( for G7 also just like Dmin6 Emin6

[@davidsummerville351]

Nice session. Thanks

[@dominicellis1867]

Lydian Dominant is my fav Tritone and Backdoor sub. Add some tomato to that shit, baby you got a stew brewin.

[@gabrielmirandamartinez8451]

Great stuff!!

[@Gitaristterjestorvig]

Thank you!

[@nickrees4706]

Really Great Stuff! ✌🏼🖐🏼👍🏼

[@El_Rebelde_]

didnt know shia labeouf played piano so well

[@MrChilensko]

Sweet!!! Greetings Spain.

[@mariofrota1432]

The Masters Piano Jazz

[@floralfire]

LOVE YOU GUYS

[@romanstudia]

Lydian dominant scale would be my first choice on a backdoor dominant chord.

[@brendaboykin3281]

Thanx, Gentlemen 🌹🌹🌹😎

[@harriheinsoo]

Great lesson, but you forgot to mention the tritone sub application!

[@TigranKaHARUTYUNYAN]

Strange you didn't mention Take the A Train 😀 Based on #11 Thanks!

[@kaptnkirk2740]

please play the hyper-ultra-lydian-#17-approximated-flatted-root-superdominant-octatonic-#§$"/%$%§-scale!

[@demsi2004]

When You are planning a new bootcamp? It was great opportunity to more learn how to play jazz better.

[@israelojuotimiramon1910]

Woah this is crazy mehn!!! At (11:13) where 3 6 2 5 1 dominant progression was played, the Lydian dominant scale is built on what degree? Please help me out!! Thanks❤

[@gabrielnewville2613]

What is that hat called that Adam is wearing - reminds me of Theonious, I want one haha 😂

[@EricBryant]

Is Lydian Dominant the new word for Mixolydian? That's what we called it back in the day

[@davidsheriff9274]

Lydian dominant is a mixolydian scale with a #11. It's the fourth mode of a melodic minor scale, whereas mixolydian is the fifth mode of the major scale.

[@OneRequiem123]

Love it

[@SirDLee]

W O W !!!!! Thanks sooooo much. Somehow this video finally gave me the connection of the Lydian Dominant and it's use. I'm a guitarist and I can now SEE the notes and shapes. 😃🤎🤩🤘💯

[@themarcinag]

I love your podcasts! Helping me brush off my dusty chops 😀! What software do you guys use to display your keyboard at the bottom of the screen? Thanks so much!

[@ethanperez7253]

dope

[@MrEdium]

AWESOME

[@bbossin]

The openings are getting better and better.

[@stilo2703]

For the V/V use of lydian dominant would this work on the first bar of But Not for Me

[@mariofrota1432]

Os feras. Theo Master

[@taagenletter6454]

That is a great story in the end. I guess a lot of us out there think that because we know the stuff intellectually, we are able to play it. That is true, but we stil have to practice to be able to play;o) Because of the virus spreading around the world, I make up small lines to my students and try to encourage them to play them around all 12 keys. Even if it is only one or two bars of music, I think it is better to learn to "practice in all 12 keys" Thanks for all the great stuff and inspiration guys.

[@nilkilnilkil]

Cant beat it

[@loupgarou39]

I think of this scale as being melodic minor off the ii

[@williammunthali9663]

I'm gaining a lot of knowledge from your videos.

[@giulioancona2069]

What's the name of the app that shows the piano keys?

[@mariofrota1432]

Theo Masters piano jazz

[@EricBryant]

What is this Altered Scale I keep hearing about?

[@davidsheriff9274]

Seventh mode of the melodic minor scale.

[@bpoladsky]

What program do you use to show the keyboard on screen?

[@thinktwice4565]

Most effective as a passing chord or as a 1 chord. Dominant????

[@thinktwice4565]

Jsw DCI Drums A night in Tunisia Eb7#11 Dm13 or Desafinado Hot House. ?🤔 in a Musical Context. Generally better Tritons Substitutes yes , better , V/V hmm? ==Excessive

[@radeum1010]

The Bell? Actually it looks like a......Bell.

[@ajadeleye4970]

*Tips hat politely* ...M'Lydian

[@julianreta1230]

10:30 Peter being kinda sus

[@juwonnnnn]

👍

[@mr.hannon5136]

hi

[@jimzamerski]

I watched this yesterday and just thought of something. I'd LOVE to hear you two cover this song together. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoWsnqWtaM9-pdU Key of Fm ... bVI - V - i - vi (half dim) ... This tune was composed using math. The fraction 4/37 in base 10 comes out to these numbers in base 12, which can be played in the chromatic scale to reveal this tune. It's literally billions of years old, and popular with all civilizations across the Universe. Enjoy, and please cover this, shred some wild solos, and post a video. You'd be the first to cover it (on Earth). Also, the video description has a link to the website, and there, all is explained. Theory-wise, these songs are absolutely amazing. Sheet music is there.

[@TimetrailsInBrittany]

Errr guys… I’ve been watching so many of your videos and loving them all BUT… you keep talking about 5-1 chords. You must have covered this waaaay back but I can’t find it. What IS 5-1? I’m a lower-intermediate piano basher and I’ve never heard this anywhere else. Helllllllllp! (I think I need to spend about ten years locked in a room with guys like you so I can start over!)

[@daniellisowski4919]

If you try to reach players intrested In studying jazz piano, your not Helping . i know every scale, chord Mode, mode of modes, shape of Line, Rythm , i can see you guys Are fabulous players !! I dont want To ruin my phone. Slow down and Let me understand your insights. D.l.

[@Mtaalas]

It's god damn unfair for you to have hands that big... there's no way I'll ever be able to reach octave+4 semitones :I

[@djginza]

My favorite scale and least favorite episode because thanks to Peter I'll never be able to think of #4 #11 without thinking about the dissonance of bringing up presidential politics at dinner bwahaha #neverenoughlydiandominantepisodes #neverenoughalteredepsiodes #neverenoughplayingoutsideepisodes

[@barbertongold]

“Who are you supporting in the presidential election?” 😆 brilliant. Thanks a lot guys

[@bsorryrthatsit7055]

Adam ,the Madness... Why is it that musical educators have gone the long way around renaming all the modes like 'Lydian dominant" when and in fact it is just the Dorian mode with raised 3rd and fourth intervals?It's because they are too lazy when it gets to those two alterations of the melodic minor.It's ultra confusing and elitist. Of course, it's no easy task to re-arrange all those notes in your mind when the root is raised, that I admit is also difficult.It is still a poor compromise. I mean no one renames the Aeolian mode where it's primary use is. Re-naming the Ionian mode to the 'lydian augmented " is just a barbaric butchering of the musical language and a great excuse for not using the true Mixolydian and Lydian mode .I'm just a student of your chanel,thanks, and also a guitarist,but I feel that a change may be on the horizon someday and these misleading shortcut's will become obsolete.

[@coajrmusic]

15 min.on your axe is a warm-up.

[@karlderdelinckx]

So interesting … but not easy to follow as a guitar player.

[@rdpatterson2682]

"...touch your instrument 15 minutes a day."

[@randyzaucha8745]

Kill me!!!

[@jamesrobinson529]

The notification bell looks more like a nose than a fist. So everyone that's frustrated with the current state of affairs should punch that bell, as if it where the nose of all your problems.