Dominions 6: MA Jotunheim Pre-game

[@astillia6073]

thank you for making videos on this game. It is criminally underrated.

[@BabelBuilder]

Deep, slow paced strategy games are, unfortunately, a dying breed.

[@edwardzdankiewicz9068]

For the live stream having one fire/heat nation and one air/shock nation as opponents would be interesting.

[@BabelBuilder]

I'll try to remember!

[@Bruh-jz1se]

28:31 ah yes, nothing screams scout quite like a 10 feat and half giant that almost the same height as a tree and footstep that can be heard for a miles, truly the most stealthy of scout there is

[@BabelBuilder]

Fear the giant scout.

[@rogue7744]

Awesome, ty for your time! Really like these guys

[@BabelBuilder]

I always enjoy the more mythical nations and this is no exception.

[@Bruh-jz1se]

27:25 something that you forget to mention about the adductor is that in his great eagle form, his wind magic is more powerful, but the other path is weakened

[@BabelBuilder]

That actually is a good point. He should have A4 in that form, which would allow us to forge air boosters.

[@Bruh-jz1se]

​@@BabelBuilder me when my suggestion is actually useful and not just a joke: 😳 *happy bruh noises*

[@Bruh-jz1se]

37:40 one thing that i would like to mention. When i read her description, it said that this witch (who name that i refuses to spell) crafted the wolf pelt that was used by the ulfhendar. I was waiting for babel to highlight that potential items in the build section but he didn't mention it. I was kinda disappointed that it wasn't an actual items and just lore text

[@BabelBuilder]

There are a few craft able wolf pelts, but nothing that is nation specific. Man an armor that gave you second shape would be really powerful.

[@Bruh-jz1se]

13:28 one thing i learned fron casual geography (formally known as hood nature) is that moose are *terrifying* and that they can trample human easily they are also unironically a great swimmer, so ill winter need to add swimmer in the unit cassy

[@BabelBuilder]

Moose kill a lot of people every year. They are the hippopotamus of Canada!

[@Bruh-jz1se]

39:24 when i read the weapon description, i chuckle that one of her weapons is literally just a slap 🤣

[@BabelBuilder]

It can also cause you to permanently shrink!

[@andrejbosiakov5726]

Jotun jarls have a prophet shape, it gives +1 attack, defence, MR and morale with a gilded model to boot. It is how I discovered prophet shapes.

[@BabelBuilder]

Nice! I love prophet shapes, wish we had more of them!

[@andrewcole4843]

Good guide and learnt a lot even though had played early test once on it earlier. Indeed Chill and frost weapons blesses suspect. Idol of beasts also efficient on Regen and get SR or even fire. I found main problem early was sacreds barely scratched but they got conditions. Whilst unaging OK it does not get Jarnvidja young enough for recuperation. I went Monolith imprisoned with unbreakable, unaging, +2AS (compliments thug and unit sacred strength), LLV and MS for those frozen passes (morale alternative).

[@BabelBuilder]

Giants do tend to rack up afflictions. Guess there is a reason that they tend to not let them get healer units. Recuperation is also primo for them. I wish front weapons were better. I think I will probably give it a go, just to show them off, but /sad. :(

[@Bruh-jz1se]

25:15 "she has seen the impending *illwinter*" ill winter 😳

[@BabelBuilder]

Yes, they have the titular ritual! I really want to try and get it off on stream.

[@Slice_The_Elder]

Welcome back yourself. I mean, there hasn't been a new video or stream for 24 hours. Slacker... Thanks for keeping me entertained.

[@BabelBuilder]

The mind is willing; the flesh is weak! Still going strong on the Dominions content.

[@Bruh-jz1se]

58:43 I'm chuckling to myself if illwinter forget that this guys are afraid of lightning and put in legally distinct thor as one of their pretender

[@cyanidecologne9018]

God fearing Jotunheim? checks out

[@BabelBuilder]

Despite what Disney would like, you can't copywrite ancient mythological gods, yet.

[@Nemastoncito]

Great video! Now i wanna try jotunheim MA. I only played early age as my tutorial nation

[@BabelBuilder]

Not the worse nation to start with. I had a great time this week testing Jotunheim out. Love nations with actually viable national spells.

[@adrianaslund8605]

I vaguely remember playing a demo of this. Pretty interesting premise.

[@BabelBuilder]

Not a game for everyone, but if it is a game for you, oh boy! Feel free to post any questions you have. I am working for way through every nation!

[@CalligulasCat]

I like recruiting some Jotun scouts early on to help with expansion, sad to see they lost sacred status from dom5->dom6 though. Still, getting them to throw some javelins and then run into melee can help.

[@BabelBuilder]

Scout thugs were once a thing, but no more. :(

[@darkwarlord99203]

Yo i asked for this nation a few weeks ago and you said you would do it and i would just like you to know i very much appreciated you making my favorite nation especially cause before this one there didint seem to be a single dom 6 ma jotunheim video

[@BabelBuilder]

You are welcome. I am looking forward to playing them on Friday!

[@maddadplays7565]

Looking forward to stream

[@BabelBuilder]

Hope you can make it.

[@maddadplays7565]

​@BabelBuilder, im super on board for an xmas stream

[@Creticus]

This reminds me that I need to play different nations more. I don't think the vaettir were a thing the last time I touched a jotun nation. I've heard consistently good things about the giant-goblin combo though.

[@BabelBuilder]

Vaetti make great hypemen for the big boys!

[@AbyRemy]

Please remember that in the last game you normally searched and found no Air sites so please give the searching spill a chance.

[@BabelBuilder]

We searched the world with an A2, there cant be that many >2 sites. Just got unlucky. :( Fair point though, we could at least invest in hitting the high value territories with a seach.

[@AbyRemy]

@BabelBuilder in my current game I casted 6 Aspexs I got 1 site with 2 Air and one with 1 Air and 1 water. And I believe that is worth it with just 12 Air gems.

[@qaz120120]

Hi, I have a question about Reanimator Priest: Does death or growth scales increase the amount of undead you conjure?

[@BabelBuilder]

Unless stated no. Depending on the order the number of unburied bodies might.

[@Bruh-jz1se]

26:12 "the abductor" and here i thought his name is krampus and not whatever norse name is that, sed 😔

[@MazuiLakon]

Skratti werewolf form cna bloodhunt very good and has regen built in

[@BabelBuilder]

Always nice to have a decent blood hunter. He can kinda defend himself too.

[@ls2260]

In ea at least (haven't tried him in ma) the Son of Fenrir is definitely enough to expand at baseline (remember that his spawned wolves also cause fear). Obviously not against barbarians and against provinces with particularly high numbers you wait until enchantment 2.

[@BabelBuilder]

Beware the knights. Turns out a good counter to wolf attacks is a heavy cavalry charge!

[@ls2260]

@@BabelBuilder Did some quick tests. In my test, without any spells or relevant bless, he beat 35 Nighmare Riders (onyx amazon light cavalry) and 10 Knights in 1 candle of friendly dominion but lost to 14 knights in neutral dominion. I also noticed that ma indie crossbows are a big problem. I should probably play more ma.

[@BabelBuilder]

Really comes down to the first charge bonus lance hits. He could recruit some vaetti archers and stick them in from when you have to go up against lances. Crossbows are the reason that all the cool giant stuff and large mythical creatures are hunted to extinction. :(

[@Jrob1589]

I want to make moose cavalry work so bad but so far I haven’t managed it.

[@ScipiotheAfricanus]

Another victim of cool sprites, welcome brother

[@BabelBuilder]

Moose cataphract when Illwinter!? We don't really have the right magic pathing to get them the buffs they need (strength and prot).

[@jjjon1234]

I must be doing something wrong because I always get terrible attrition when using Ulfhedin. Anytime ive used them, I've been sorely disappointed. Some notes -Abductors eagle form has 4A and no inept smith so can forge air helm natively or cast raven feast -If you are greedy enough, D gems are excellent for twiceborning Jardvinia, Niefel jarls, skratti . -In a emergency D gems also are great for raising longdead with d1 vaetti since you get 15hp armored Giant longdead -You can also try just ignoring the expensive sacreds and go full scales since Jotun loves spending $$$. Growth and order 2/3 sets you up for blood late game too.

[@BabelBuilder]

Really nice notes there, thanks. I think you do need to be a tad careful with Ulfhedin, like getting some charge soaking chaff, but otherwise, I have had good luck with them. Length 4 repels and regen/second form are pretty nice.

[@edwardzdankiewicz9068]

Is there some sort of timing trick with wolven winter ritual? If you have some one cast it the effect takes place after the combat of the next round, I think. So you have to plan two turns in advance with it? Is really hard to find information on this.

[@BabelBuilder]

Rituals should be hitting first. If I get time, I will go test it to make sure of the timing.

[@edwardzdankiewicz9068]

@@BabelBuilder According to the link pasted below: Preaching adds/subtracts candles as appropriate. Rituals are cast. However, Wolven Winter and Breath of the Desert do *not* change temperature scales at this point. They only set in motion the events that will change them later in the turn. Battles from magical movement and then ordinary battles happen. The season ticks, changing temperature scales worldwide Wolven Winter and Breath of the Desert trigger, changing temperature scales in their target provinces, to a maximum of H3/C3 Dominion spread from temple checks happens Dominion affects scales (shift maximum one point, probability equal to 5% per candle plus 10% per difference between province current scale and dominion default) Note that battles happen before anything that shifts scales, so you will always fight in whatever temperature scales you see when you submit your turn. A province's default temperature scale ranges from C3 to H3; it can't go outside this range. Wolven Winter and Breath of the Desert shift it by three points (max one instance per turn); it might immediately be shifted by one point (probably in the opposite direction) right after this by dominion. steamcommunity.com/app/722060/discussions/0/3241971691950093989

[@AAX11111]

Man looking at the thumbnail, this is one messed up family tree they got going on here lol. In all seriousness though, Jotunheim has never been a bad nation. Even in LA, Utgard is still a good nation to play, even if the loss of the Gyjas to Vaettiheim means the turbo communions are dead. In MA thou? Turbo spam skeleingtons all day and night long lol. This stream will be fun to watch.

[@BabelBuilder]

Turbo communion skele spamming is the stuff of nightmares, even post hoard of skeletons nerf.

[@MazuiLakon]

If u prophet a jarl u get a horned jarl 😂

[@BabelBuilder]

Prophet shapres are so cool, but so rare. :(

[@Bruh-jz1se]

In my totally real and not backseat gaming knowledge, I'm thinking something in the line of regen and ditch the miss weapon because you said it yourself that it's a meh weapon bless, if you can, add either magic leadership (because i don't know if that little ice gobo is consider to be a magical being) or magic weapon (because we know that babel gonna regret not picking magic weapon in a fight)

[@BabelBuilder]

I want to at least show mist weapons off once. Who knows maybe Illwinter will watch and agree that they need buffing. Vampiric weapons just got a major buff, so it could happen! I am taking this one for the team! The Rimvaettir are not magic being somehow. Regen+Magic weapon would be a fine bless otherwise.

[@Aliyen]

I think I'd like flying Thrymshirdings, rather than frost weapons.

[@BabelBuilder]

I will take one for the team and show off why frost weapons are so meh.

[@Aliyen]

@@BabelBuilder Just imagine, we can have Santas swooping in to deliver coal to enemy commanders!

[@BabelBuilder]

We have bag of sand, why not a socking of coal item!?

[@mmogog1]

Regen blood bond awerness magic weapons

[@BabelBuilder]

That is a monster bless. What chassis and scales?

[@mmogog1]

@@BabelBuilder Irminsul, Idol of Beasts, Fountain of Blood or Arch Mage. You have to dump scales to get it dormant, or, if you are greedy, make it imprisoned and still have one good scale (magic?) and the others neutral.