The laptop's back then were weird as well, Intel were branding them i5's and i7's and yet they were still dual core.
@AlexiaTheFX2 жыл бұрын
*cough* Like the M and U cpus I think it's still like this nowadays
@popcorny0072 жыл бұрын
Yep lol, even my old i7-4600U is a dual core
@crisnmaryfam73442 жыл бұрын
not just intel... AMD was doing some goofy crap with cores and calling it more then it was or whatever in that period. False Advisement Imho. Like calling a gt710 gaming capable GPU these days..
@S己G2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I believe the only difference between the i3 2330m and the i5 of that generation only had a *slight* clock speed difference. (something like 0.3ghz more on the i5, but I may be mistaken)
@marc04882 жыл бұрын
@@S己G i3 did not have Turbo Boost. i5 did, i7 had higher clock speeds than i5 and more cache
@ogbenchmarks71272 жыл бұрын
That i5 with the T designation is essentially an i3 with turbo enabled. It even has the same L3 cache as the i3, less than the other i5s.
@Jason-vl9uz2 жыл бұрын
Yeah- he also overlooked the i5-3470T which is similar. As a low power CPU, it's really not for gaming... but in a tiny ITX build, it can be passively cooled, or powered with a picopsu and serves a nice niche purpose.
@resneptacle2 жыл бұрын
@@Jason-vl9uz And the 4570T
@a.bamatraf60542 жыл бұрын
but mine 4790T is very good when gaming, and it's also got score above i7 3770 in cinebench R15
@Durbanite20102 жыл бұрын
yeah the 2nd and 3rd gen i5 T series were not great, but all of the T series over all generations are low powered and not suited for gaming.
@ogbenchmarks71272 жыл бұрын
@@a.bamatraf6054 I believe yours is a low power 4-core/8-thread chip - like the other i7s but just lower in power. The i5 in the video is an outlier because it's just 2-c/4-t, unlike most contemporary i5s from Intel.
@TigerChamp992 жыл бұрын
"That explosion just absolutely killed more than the NPCs there. It killed my framerate as well."
@huzudra2 жыл бұрын
2 core i5's continued into the 4th gen as well, the 4570T for example is a weird one, the only 2 core i5 in 4th gen it was more or less a lower base clocked i3 with turbo and an extra megabyte of cache. I always figured it was a 4C i5 that had a failed core so they fused it down to 2C but the 4MB cache is also out of line with the 6MB on other i5's and 3MB of other i3's. The nearest I could figure is that it was actually a mobile chip that failed to fall into the power envelope binning needed so they stuck it to a desktop PCB for socketed use. They had 2C mobile i7's with 4MB cache so that falls right into the specs for that to happen I guess, still a real oddity of a chip though. I had one in a Lenovo Tiny and it wasn't a bad CPU for what it was, especially when you uncorked the power limits a little with XTU you could get some good desktop and internet browsing performance from it.
@nikkigrace52882 жыл бұрын
And mobile dual core i7s continued until the fucking SEVENTH gen, it’s NUTS how intel operates
@huzudra2 жыл бұрын
@@nikkigrace5288 My daily driver laptop is a 2C4T i5 580m, it wouldn't be possible without Xubuntu being fairly easy to run but it's starting to show it's age. Just barely able to do 1080P KZbin these days and certainly not if I'm doing anything in the background. All 8GB RAM is installed and a SSD go well to make it a useable and reasonable experience.
@whohan7792 жыл бұрын
@@nikkigrace5288 Yes, and mind you what was their highest end HEDT (6950X) called for the previous gen (at least in terms of numbering)? You guessed it… 'i7'… and it had ten cores. So, imagine being a company that gives so little 💩 about their marketing that a ~$1700 (yes, 10-cores cost that much) HEDT unlocked >4 GHz capable processor had the same designation as a low-powered ~2.4 GHz laptop chip whose biggest saving grace was (in hindsight broken and highly unsafe) hyperthreading. Nuts…
@felixszopos-papp14782 жыл бұрын
I bought a mini pc with that exact chip in it, thinking it's a quad core...
@manaphylv1002 жыл бұрын
There is an i5-4570T with 2C/4T as well. The QS version of it even displays as i3-4570T.
@invictine2 жыл бұрын
And i7-4610m too
@arktheevil2 жыл бұрын
i love this channel because i dont really have any money and after watching people put computers together with 3090's and crap its nice to see something that i would buy lmao
@jaysinblock87432 жыл бұрын
I'm right there with ya bruva. 🥺
@BudgetBuildsOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the days of dual core i5s I’m so glad these died out, always get caught out when they show up £2/3 cheaper than a (still decent) i5 2500 on CeX.
@hoshizawa2 жыл бұрын
Hey, nice to see you here
@eddoesnotexist2 жыл бұрын
Hey, nice to see you here
@hman61592 жыл бұрын
Hey, nice to see you here
@SAG3X2 жыл бұрын
Hey, nice to see you here
@fizz1ewinks2 жыл бұрын
Hey, nice to see you here
@D-2-the-no2 жыл бұрын
I love how in 2022 a 4790k is still fetching more than a 12100f which butchers it clean out of existence.
@gazzmilsom2 жыл бұрын
The i7 tax is real...
@D-2-the-no2 жыл бұрын
@Rafał Pawłowski i have i3 ADL and its an insane cpu for £90. Warzone all low with rtx2060 strix, 55% in game use with gpu pegged at 99%
@superturbo412 жыл бұрын
the T cpus tend to be cut down (both wattage and core count) versions of normal/K cpus, which is something to keep in mind when you come across an old cpu/sandy bridge optiplex
@MandoMTL2 жыл бұрын
@kaizer5lock S is fine.
@superturbo412 жыл бұрын
@kaizer5lock checks out
@dtr125thrasher2 жыл бұрын
@@MandoMTL s is lower tdp and lower clock as a result
@SeeJayPlayGames2 жыл бұрын
@kaizer5lock K model shouldn't be found in an OEM system, anyway, it's useless, because overclocking wouldn't be supported by the motherboard. Hell, you'd be lucky to get the current PCIe revision. My SFF motherboard has an H81 chipset which is only PCIe 2.0 in spite of a Haswell CPU having 3.0. I don't know if the MT motherboard fares any better. Also, there's another reason to avoid a used K chip besides potential overclocking damage... they usually command a price premium over the non-K version.
@MandoMTL2 жыл бұрын
@@dtr125thrasher Nothing performance hit wise compared to less cores.
@TigerChamp992 жыл бұрын
7:03 This i5 needs that health potion more than the player character after that fight.
@nojoojuu2 жыл бұрын
Never had nor seen this CPU. I thought only mobile Sandy Core i5 is 2 core. I only have core i5-7500T, and it's 4/4 35W. Like Your videos!
@Abaduaber2 жыл бұрын
Glad you still making this videos, man. Thank you very much. You have very calm voice which somehow hypnotizes me. Please do not stop.
@Patzilla19992 жыл бұрын
Certainly interesting results, when it comes to old and cheap i5s I prefer using the "2400s"
@RandomGaminginHD2 жыл бұрын
Yeah those ones are in a lot of older prebuilts. Still do ok
@Patzilla19992 жыл бұрын
@@RandomGaminginHD honestly I'm kind of surprised it can still hit 60 FPS in quite a few recent games
@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe2 жыл бұрын
Nahh 4th gen is the lowest I'd go. And for modern day I'd atleast get the 4 core 8 thread models.
@Patzilla19992 жыл бұрын
@Lurch7861 can't really complain when it's a 65w quad core that turbos to 3.1 for about 8 to 15 bucks, admittedly it does have its limitations, however it has many advantages given that you can slap it into basically any old Intel office PC from around that time, and throw in a 1030 or 1050 ti, and depending on the settings you use you can do VR and 4K on quite a few titles for a low amount. But yeah that is a somewhat significant drawback, hopefully the used market gets better soon.
@Patzilla19992 жыл бұрын
@@JudeTheKZbinPoopersubscribe that is a good point, however keep in mind I said old and cheap, you can get them for as low as 8 bucks
@ethanhooper61832 жыл бұрын
love your vidoes, just a suggestion when you're showing the FPS you could show the release date of the game being tested compared to the release of the cpu/ gpu?
@НААТ2 жыл бұрын
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@the_motherfucker2 жыл бұрын
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@Beisepimp2 жыл бұрын
I almost fell for it at the time too, when i bougth my i5-750. First I wanted to buy the i5-650, because it was cheaper. :')
@Brian_Buckley2 жыл бұрын
I sold off an i5-650 for $15 bucks recently, and went and got a Xeon x3440 which was basically an i7- 950 without GPU, for $10 haha.
@Beisepimp2 жыл бұрын
@@Brian_Buckley Well that's a great upgrade. :D
@Brian_Buckley2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was shocked and annoyed that the i5 was a dual core.
@aintaintaword6662 жыл бұрын
1:59 There were later dual core i5s too: 3470T and 4570T They were mostly used in AIOs, kind of a small step up from mobile CPUs
@DeltaLima2742 жыл бұрын
yep, those 1-liter pcs like lenovos mp92 tiny are using those as well as they are 35W
@deltaid14392 жыл бұрын
I can watch this channel forever and never get bored with the content
@mortenee882 жыл бұрын
You should get your hands on a 3930k combo to compare 2 sandy bridge cores in 2022 and 6 of them. Comparing it to this and doing the same tests would be awesome. I think it will show buying premium has aged alot better.
@sirjacobthe82 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for making it. It got me wondering. What would be better. An I5-8400 with 6 cores and 6 threads or something like an i3-10100 with 4 cores and 8threads? Any opinions?
@m8x4252 жыл бұрын
I would expect them to be pretty close to being on par with eachother. Back when Coffee Lake came out, I had seen benchmarks of the i7-6700k at stock trading blows with the i5-8400, and the i7-7700k trading blows with the i5-8600k. Although the 6mb of L3 cache might hurt the i3 a little bit. The i3-10100 is very close to the performance levels of a stock 6700k, if not slightly faster. Between the two I would probably recommend the i3-10100 because the lga1200 platform has better upgrade options. Recently I scored an i7-10700k for $175usd, and there's no way an i9-9900k could be found for that price in the current market. The 10700k and 9900k are pretty much on par with eachother.
@BeastofBourdon2 жыл бұрын
Everyone talks about haswell being the big jump in performance but I honestly preferred sandy bridge. The only benefit I've seen in haswell is the avx2 instruction set. If you like sandy bridge, I highly recommend the sandy bridge xeons. They go up to 8 core 16 threads, can be had for cheap on ebay and even cheaper on aliexpress, you can get a brand new "salvage" motherboard to pair it with and you can run the ddr3 ram in quad channel to bridge the speed gap with ddr4. It makes for a very affordable build with some impressive capabilities and you can even get the boards with nvme support.
@KomradeMikhail2 жыл бұрын
Anybody still trying to squeeze some life out of an old Sandy Bridge system should be looking at a Xeon E3 1270... it's the equivalent of an i7 2600, at a fraction the price.
@martheunen2 жыл бұрын
Now that you have the 1080ti, i was wondering if you could do a 4th gen i7 like 4770k vs a 3600 or 5600 ryzen chip and see if that gives the 1080ti just that little extra breathing room, or if it only impacts frametime stability for example, or maybe that 'nothing' changes... Would love to see a comparison like that. Anyway, love the videos, keep it up! Oh and... more doggo please! (sry i forgot his name). cheers
@grizzlyindustries75932 жыл бұрын
I have a i3-8100T in a Dell Optiplex prebuilt. It's actually decent for the cheap price I payed for the PC($160) when I had a i5-8400, 16gb of ram, 240 crucial SSD, and 1tb HDD and the activated Windows 10 Pro license. I bought it from an awesome local seller/charity place who sold it to me so then I could give it to my sister. Yet she didn't want it, and I built a Ryzen system instead. So, I made another system with the specs inside onto a Gigabyte board with 32gb of ram. Eventually, I ended up buying a cheap i3-8100T to replace the i5-8400 and after installing 24gb of random ram I found and a GTX 1050 2gb. It's fantastic for being a secondary system to do editing, carry around to others houses, play easy games, and stream from. Most importantly, it's great to use upscaling and compression programs which take a long amount of time to do. And since everything in the system is so low powered and now worth around $120 with what I have in it. It's great for my uses.
@NJZ062 жыл бұрын
it would be interesting to see how well this holds up in comparison to other 2c/4t cpus like the G4560
@JamesSmith-sw3nk2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Sandybridge is legendary.. it was GREAT for a LONG time.. BUT time moves on. The new i3 12 100 cpu is the budget way to go these days, it's faster in games than a i7 4790.
@HardWhereHero2 жыл бұрын
Some i5's are not created equal. For instance, I have a older system with a i5 4790k overclocked to 4.1 - 5.1 and a i5 7500, and a i5 6900. The 4690k blows them out of the way raw power wise and IPC, the 6600 comes in second place and the 7500 which is the newest of the 3 came in dead last. Just goes to show you the Generation is not always the only thing to consider. Unless its gen 2 or 3 because intel made huge IPC improvements from gen 3 to 4 and anything lower then 4 should not be considered for anything except esports gaming. With gen 4 you have with issues with windows 10 and the intel management engine not playing nice together and causing crashes on some motherboards but this can be avoided by disabling the PCI simple communications controller before updating. I was thinking of making a video on just this.
@mOddEdLiKeHeLL2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video on the disabling pci simple communication s controller. With like a in-depth explaination.
@gamingnomad1322 жыл бұрын
Hello another awsome video I always enjoy your videos looking at older tech thanks!
@TheDude504472 жыл бұрын
regarding hyperthreading. In games its actually more likely to reduce performance slightly but it mostly does nothing. Short version: In order for hyperthreading to improve performance the system needs to know what to do for the coming clock cycles. Games are based on user input which is completely unpredictable to the cpu.
@keithmiller96652 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I have an old i5-2400 which I upgraded to an i7 when I was learning PC building.
@Kim-fm2vo2 жыл бұрын
4:57 the way you delivered this is hilarious
@chocobro72 жыл бұрын
Apple had a bunch of old Mac Minis that used those sandy bridge i5 and i7s. I have some. They aren't bad for general use, but gaming 😬
@lewzealand47172 жыл бұрын
Those were laptop M-class CPUs, not desktop ones like in the video.
@doabrad18502 жыл бұрын
The i5-4410E and i5-4570T also only came with two cores and four threads.
@jackbarnes55892 жыл бұрын
I still have my i5-4440 and 2 960s in SLI. Still works fine for me.
@RandomGaminginHD2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I had a 4460 and it remains one of my favourite processors
@kaksidaksi34552 жыл бұрын
i have a i5-2400 and a gtx 760 2gb
@popcorny0072 жыл бұрын
@@RandomGaminginHD 4460 was my first CPU :D
@jackbarnes55892 жыл бұрын
@@kaksidaksi3455 Old School from 10 years back.
@SVW19762 жыл бұрын
Linus, Jays Two Cents, BitWit, Nah. This is the best tech channel on KZbin. 👍
@CircuitBird2 жыл бұрын
My old Lenovo ThinkPad T420s uses a Sandy Bridge (i7 2640M). Windows 10 is far from a smooth experience, but Ubuntu 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish lets it run just fine and doesn't overheat, unlike when running Windows 10. Emulation works great when running RetroPie on it! I mainly use it for internet browsing and when doing work reports, along with a few other minor uses when I'm unable to use my main computer.
@MafiaTunis2 жыл бұрын
i still have a i7 Sandy 2600 with a Radeon HD 7750 and 12gb Ram for retro games running Win XP still works very well a couple of years ago i upgraded this system to ssd and it gave it new life tbh. thanks for the video
@BladeTrain3r2 жыл бұрын
Low power, temps and cost could make it suitable as an option for a cheap fileserver or running your Teamspeak off of. But wouldn't use it for gaming or as a media server. Although picking up an i3 from a generation or two later would probably not cost much more and give you better performance overall.
@CssHDmonster2 жыл бұрын
as a i5-4670 non-k user in 2022, the cpu is still chugging and havent had many issues, except horizon zero dawn
@fueledbyregret2 жыл бұрын
Even as late as the 7th Gen there were i5 CPUs that were dual core. Such as the 7360U. I had that in a MacBook Pro. It was shocking.
@Derpsii2 жыл бұрын
the i7 7500u was a dual core too!
@DeathMetalDerf2 жыл бұрын
The oldest Intel CPU I have that's still currently running is my i7 870 that I have overclocked to 3.9GHz, it's paired with 16GB of some decently-fast RAM, and 24TB of storage. It's basically a cross between a server I use to learn how to run virtual machines, and some network-attached storage for movies and music and such. It's pretty old and could probably stand to be upgraded, but unless I want to build a whole new unit, there's no where else to go with what I have.
@M3gaprod2 жыл бұрын
If its old and has a T in the name just dont bother lmao, even new T cpu’s are much slower, if i remember right the 10900T was as fast as an i5 10600K or lower. Now imagine the lower end T models Edit : i9 10900T is slower than i remembered
@konzo59422 жыл бұрын
some are good though like the i5 8500 vs 8500t, the t is only a bit slower but its so power efficient, and cheap in those micro optiplexes on ebay.
@M3gaprod2 жыл бұрын
@@konzo5942 Yep, just research well before buying T processors, and i cant lie that something about 35W of consumption is sexy.
@Anuitu2u2 жыл бұрын
@@M3gaprod I have a 24/7 homelab, running on 2390T right now, for about 2 weeks. According to the Smart Plug I used as monitoring, it use 0.87 per day, average. I haven't checked the settings in the bios, but the proc had a Turbo feature on its spec. Not much running on it right now, grafana, docker, container, and OPNSense. My cpu usage is rarely more than 10% right now.
@konzo59422 жыл бұрын
@@Anuitu2u I mean for that a raspberry pi would do and be even less power. Pros of an 8500t is the power to plex transcode multiple 4k and solid performance for any that requires cpu, at the lowest power consumption possible
@M3gaprod2 жыл бұрын
@@Anuitu2u For that case I do agree that they are pretty cool
@happysnackers2 жыл бұрын
My old laptop has a i5 3777u, 3rd gen mobile i5 also with only two cores and 4 threads. That laptop and CPU got me through highschool. I also remember finding out it only had 2 physical cores one day and being really confused for about 5 minutes.
@TheSpotify952 жыл бұрын
I think this CPU was designed to just go into a low power machine and used for Office tasks and general tasks, where the 2 cores wouldn't have much of an impact. Gaming on 2 cores, however... that's a different story indeed.
@milescarter78032 жыл бұрын
i5 3470t and 4570T are also Dual Core, 3rd and 4th gen. So you don't have the last dual core i5. Anything with a T you had better check the MHz as well, because it might be too slow to use after the short term power limit runs out.
@chrisw112 жыл бұрын
I got mine at least 6 years ago or more, done me proud over the course of time... Can't complain
@barrykirkby96262 жыл бұрын
I have a i5 6500t in one of HP's small elite mini's which is two generations younger than my i3 4010u in my Gigabyte Brix, bought to replace my Brix and the thing is it's noisier and slower doing what I wanted it for which is as a Plex and Emby server - thats all nothing more. It's struggles like crazy putting the media into place. I will always look for the higher powered U series from now on that extra few watts makes a difference I think..
@thelogician98792 жыл бұрын
LOL, I remember when I first broke into the LGA1366 HEDT platform, and I had to use a dual-core (no HT) Xeon 3503 as a placeholder until I could afford a better CPU. It was a silly combination but it got me through. That was so long ago that I was still using the final DFI LanParty motherboard I ever used as a daily driver. Fun times. I miss DFI.
@knightsun29202 жыл бұрын
One thing Sandy Bridge iGPU lacks is h264 encoder where as the Ivy Bridge has this and includes PCI-e 3.0 support.
@tomastkadlec61812 жыл бұрын
I heard you say that the 1080ti is the best card you have right now, why is that? I think I remember you having a 3070 right?
@m8x4252 жыл бұрын
Wasn't that one of those i5's that companies like HP would stick in an All-In-One PC? Up until a few months ago I was using a laptop with an i5-6200u and 8gb of RAM in Single-Channel. The HDD was upgraded to an 850 EVO. It actually functioned fine for basic tasks and videos.
@alinzelnan2 жыл бұрын
What I would be interested in are some more details in the RTSS overlay, e.g. power consumption CPU/GPU and clock speeds. Just an idea, maybe you don't include them because the overlay would be too large. This CPU for example has only 35W to work with, it wouldn't be great even with 4 or 8 cores.
@dgnoided39522 жыл бұрын
wonder how something like a 2500k would handle modern games. lovely vid as always
@Obie3272 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the U series for laptops. I currently have an older HP with a Broad Well i7 U processor. Only difference between the i5 variant was the higher clock speed and 1 meg more of cache. Ramdom, I was wondering if a comparison would be in order using an AMD equivalent Athlon 240g/3000g and your GTX 1080ti for shits and giggles? Thanks for the video!
@rmgaminguk70792 жыл бұрын
A mate recently passed me an old i5-2300 with a motherboard and ram, so finding out it worked and that it was a standard matx form factor motherboard (rare with Dell motherboards after Sandy bridge) I was loath to just throw it away. I buiit a system for under £200 and in a surprising first test I won a fortnite duo game with my daughter (low preset, epic distance, 900p). So as you imagine when I heard you had an i5 sandy bridge I was excited to see how it performed for you..."2 Cores" - I winched, but by then you had me, I was hooked in, and couldn't avert my eyes from the car wreak. You do us wrong RG, I'll dedicate another session of therapy to you !
@JackH-zh3wh2 жыл бұрын
I have a laptop with an i7-5600U in it, also 2C/4T - a fifth gen i7 with only 2 cores! It performs fairly well.
@MrDilldock2 жыл бұрын
The 1080 ti is like, "Yo.. you got some work for me to do or what?"
@adrianh852 жыл бұрын
Love you channel and content, im very similar i like to see how much processing power i can squeeze out of older hardware. Currently i have a 3770k @4.2 and 1080 for VR gaming and it runs good at 90fps. But to be honest i also have a 12600k/3060 setup that runs better but frfr its only like 30% better. Seems kinda low for a 10 to 12 year hardware gap. Unfortunately that 12600 setup is for another project
@skraegorn73172 жыл бұрын
The other cool thing is that Sandy Bridge chips still officially supported Windows XP, depending on your motherboard.
@mistermudpie2 жыл бұрын
Even the newer i5 4570T is the same 2C/4T configuration.
@peterpan4082 жыл бұрын
What do you call a 2C4T processor when an I5 is 4C4T and an I3 is 2C2T? The T-Series! S for slow, T for Terrible.
@joelcarson46022 жыл бұрын
I put together an older Dell that originally had a Pentium 630 in it (literally a dumpster find, stripped of everything except the power supply and system board) put a i7 2600s in it. Virtually identical to a standard 2600 except base clock is 2.8. Ghz instead of 3.4. Turbo boost is 3.8 just like the 2600. Was cheaper on ebay than 2600. Runs Linux Mint very well.
@jdo2482 жыл бұрын
A small correction if I may. Nearly all *desktop i5s are quad cores. The laptop stuff in even later generations has 2 cores and 4 threads for days. Many many of them.
@dimitriasimov21402 жыл бұрын
Yes, you need to pay attention on what you're going to purchase. But I am pretty happy with my purchase this year, upgraded from i3 4130T to i7 4790T and it feels much better.
@yeetus592 жыл бұрын
Id go with Ivy Bridge over Sandy Bridge these days just because it has pcie 3.0. An i5 3470 can be had for $20 as well as an hp/dell oem motherboard you can get for just as cheap. You can even get a xeon 1240 v2 for more threads and higher clocks! All 1080p 60fps capable CPU's
@R3AL-AIM2 жыл бұрын
Use to game on my dad's 4/4 i5 many, many years ago.... It ran BFBC2 and other games alike pretty well at low 720p. Which wasn't bad back then and I was at least able to play. Played tons of TF2 on normal as well.
@DrMuFFinMan2 жыл бұрын
The T series chips are good for media servers or anything you want to save power on, sense they are low power chips. Thanks for the video
@Spinalcore2 жыл бұрын
I have an I5 2400S that I salvaged from an ASUS ET2012IGTS that the Radeon HD7470M or Display itself failed outside of the warranty window just trying to find a compatible motherboard at a fair price in Canada to use it with to setup a home server to replace the old Dual core E2220 home server system with. The 2400S is a bit slower raw GHz wize at 2.5 GHZ and a 3.3 Turbo max speed compared to the 2.7/3.5 of the 2390T but is a Quad core 4 thread instead of Dual core 4 threads.
@jimgeorgiev81052 жыл бұрын
S and T versions usually stand for $hit or terd compared to the non S and T K stands for killer version 😃 never even knew about this 2nd gen i5 either thanks for sharing
@BReal-10EC2 жыл бұрын
And i5-2400 test might be helpful to many as there are still so many used/refurbished i5-2400 business PCs for sale. Unfortunately most are the small form factor model which means limited to low power low profile GPU though. But they are cheap and available. FWIW, I've been having issues with my i5-6402p RX 480 system- I do think just having 4 cores without threading is an issue now on some games.
@Spido68_the_spectator2 жыл бұрын
4 threads in general is obsolete for modern gaming. Even 6 is too. 8 is just about holding on, but barelyand only the (6/7)700(K), 9700(K), i3 10th & 12th gen and R3 3300X are being reasonable.
@user-wq9mw2xz3j2 жыл бұрын
@@Spido68_the_spectator not really. first of all it always obviously matters on what you play, no matter when game is released it can be much more or less performance demanding (and then it depends on what performance you find acceptable). But even more importantly, it matters on the speed of the cpu a lot. A 2c/4t is obiously gonna struggle with almost anything, but a good 4c/4t can still manage most popular games. Especially with 4c/8t, they arent "just about holding on", its mostly enough for almost any game, if its a fast one. But an older slower 4c/8t is clearly going to be much worse than a newer faster one. Point being, it aint only depending on amount of threads.
@robine52802 жыл бұрын
Are you willing to test an AMD FX one last time? Paired with a RX6600xt or 6700 or even with a 7000 series. I know it doesn't make much sense but firstly I'm curious and secondly I want to give my trusty ol' eight (😬) core one last upgrade and keep the GPU when updating to another (probably AM5) platform in the future.
@IronwingTechHaven2 жыл бұрын
I have a dual core i7 in my laptop. It's strange to think that those existed.
@lunar76092 жыл бұрын
thoughts on i5 10400f?
@M3gaprod2 жыл бұрын
Go for it, but since most lga 1200 boards are 500 series now you can try to get an 11400F
@Dogwater4202 жыл бұрын
Personally im not a big fan of that new semi-lets play-review type of commentary, and like your regular reviews much better.
@certs7432 жыл бұрын
The Sandy Bridge mobile i5 skus were hyper threaded dual cores. Perhaps the low power i5 was a laptop CPU fitted to a desktop socket.
@mamamia56682 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite channel on youtube
@terabbs2 жыл бұрын
i5 2390T is basically the same as the i5 3210M. witch only has faster memory speed and that's for laptops. till recently I had that in my laptop but changed it for the i7-3720QM. And that made a big change. But going from 2 cores to 4 always will make a good difference.
@terminusaquo19802 жыл бұрын
I still have a Sandy Bridge Core i5-2500K in an older machine which I'm currently rebuilding and giving an upgrade
@shanepotter46352 жыл бұрын
e5-2670 is going for like 5-10.00 on ebay and a mobo from aliexpress can be bought for like 42.00. An ecc ddr3 kit of 2x 8gb probably 20.00. 8 core 16 thread sandy bridge xeon.
@linuxfabrication90742 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this chip is a binned version of the sandybridge quad core i5 and there might be a way of unlocking the other 2 cores
@joeyhillers94602 жыл бұрын
I have an I5-650 around here somewhere, basically an old i3. Sucked, swapped it out for a i7-860 pretty quickly
@alteleroidplay9372 жыл бұрын
im still rocking my good ol i7-3770
@cosminmilitaru99202 жыл бұрын
I had an i5 2500K and it felt overwhelmed since 2019~... Got from a friend i7 2600K with a Z68 motherboard and tall heatsink so I could easily 1.30v 4.2ghz it. Holy hell it plays absolutely everything with 2x 8gb ddr3 1600mhz. Maybe WoW raids would knell it, maybe Civ VI or other strategy games, but singleplayer and everything in general runs smooth! That chip is over 11 years old. Too bad mobos were PCI-E 2.0, not even PCI-E 3.0
@m8x4252 жыл бұрын
Were you not able to go any higher with the clocks? At 1.3v you should be able to get at least to 4.4ghz if not 4.5ghz. I was an early adopter of the 2600k and the one I had could do 4.7ghz with less than 1.3v, but I got a fairly good chip.
@beataoo2 жыл бұрын
Nice!! Do more if these
@stevenvoyer43562 жыл бұрын
"That explosion killed more than just the NPC's. It killed my frame rate as well." LOL
@OcihEvE2 жыл бұрын
I've never even heard of these but there are an abundance of old AMD A6 office PCs that have similar specs. They sell for half what a 4770 based office refurb goes for but I checked and yea, they are last resort. I wouldn't be surprised if a browser was sluggish on them.
@PaulSman1232 жыл бұрын
That Elden Ring commentary was to good
@andic66762 жыл бұрын
Will graphics cards like the GTX1650 Super run on legacy BIOS PCs?
@sburton0152 жыл бұрын
On my older gaming desktop, I have a CPU in it thats older than this one, however it actually has 4 physical cores. Its an Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 cpu and I have it with a GTX 570 gpu. The Q9550 cpu came out in early 2008 which is when Windows Vista was the latest and greatest operating system out there.
@armanelgtron45332 жыл бұрын
Vista and greatest probably don't belong in the same sentence :P
@sburton0152 жыл бұрын
@@armanelgtron4533 Maybe, I remember that the only problem that Vista had was in 2007, many people who were upgrading to Vista from XP, their PC's just weren't powerful enough to run Vista correctly. Most people's PC's only had a single core CPU with maybe 512 mb to 1 gb of ram and integrated graphics and even then, you really needed at least a dual core CPU with 2 gb of ram to run Vista smoothly. But at least Vista received the same amount of support from Microsoft as Windows 7 did, but too bad, many 3rd party software providers disliked Vista apparently and decided to end support for their software at the same time as XP even though its over 5 years newer.
@sburton0152 жыл бұрын
@@armanelgtron4533 I remember an OS that had even more hate than Windows Vista was Windows ME. One time, I was in a computer class in college back in 2003 and the professor said and was writing down on the board "Ok, there are many versions of Windows, there's Windows 3.x, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 98 second edition, Windows NT, Windows 2K, and now we have Windows XP. Also they are working on a new version called Longhorn." I then looked at the list and noticed that something was missing, so I asked the professor, "Well, What about ME? Windows ME?". He then said "OH don't even mention that to me, I don't want to even hear about Windows ME."
@frontwing672 жыл бұрын
Could you review an i5-4690?
@Brisou3942 жыл бұрын
With bottleneck is it better to have a AMD GPU? Would we got more FPS?
@MaxIronsThird2 жыл бұрын
Hyper Threading in games until Haswell(4th gen) was awful, the i5 without extra threads usually did better than the i7 with double threads, it started getting really good with Skylake(6th Gen). I have two PCs, one with a i7 4770K and the other with a i5 3570, they run exactly the same in all games, CPU usage on the i5 is always much higher though.
@SpeedIng802 жыл бұрын
Should be quite on par with an i3-4150 or so?!
@jonjohnson28442 жыл бұрын
I have a 4590t in my home server (downgraded from a 4770k) - fantastic for the use case (power consumption is tiny) but I wouldn't imagine it would be good general use/gaming platform and it's two generations newer than this.
@TheVirtualArena242 жыл бұрын
"Hello everyone and welcome to another video" best intros of all time
@DDT20052 жыл бұрын
7:24 Fortnite - How would a 4c/4t i5-3570k fare in that rig of yours? (Don't worry about overclocking it).
@mikek922 жыл бұрын
Looking for either an i5 or a i7 version for my sister's laptop . It has a dual core Celeron in it right now...
@xtrtrfy58822 жыл бұрын
Small correction, the i5-4570T also has 2 cores.
@tj34952 жыл бұрын
Just for science, it would be interesting to see some of these games at 4k with a chip like this, to see if putting the stress on the gpu smooths things out a bit
@pengu63352 жыл бұрын
It certainly wouldn't. This CPU would bottleneck the 1080ti at 4k as well. The 1% lows could probably be improved if you cap the frame rate to 30fps, but that's all I can think of for this CPU.
@skygazer26782 жыл бұрын
And here I am using an i5 3470. Well at least it's an upgrade over my i5 650, right?
@anislazreg64322 жыл бұрын
i have a question what happens when you put this i5 with rtx 3080 or something about this powerful we know that 1080p is demanding for processor more than 4k so what happens if you retest at 4k is it the same result
@ChikaHakozaki2 жыл бұрын
I have never heard of a 2390T and good thing I haven't I'd much rather have a 2400 as the lowest end for a sandy bridge