Don't bother growing tomatoes any other way! This trellis system is the BEST and CHEAP.

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@kelliott7864
@kelliott7864 2 жыл бұрын
Really good of you to give credit for where you got this idea. Josh wasn't the first, but at least you're giving credit to your source.
@TrumbleAudio
@TrumbleAudio 8 ай бұрын
The only video I found explaining suckers and pruning that made sense without 20 minutes of filler!
@danielclyde7777
@danielclyde7777 2 жыл бұрын
I came here to learn about a cool trellis, I left understanding suckers and proper pruning. And a cool trellis. Great video!
@je-fq7ve
@je-fq7ve Жыл бұрын
It helps when doing this outside to run a string horizontally to stop the wind from blowing them around.
@skyking8424
@skyking8424 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Old school home gardener here; I'v been growing toms 60 years and this is an idea I haven't tried yet. Something so simple yet ingenious at the same time; I almost feel stupid. Thanx for sharing.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
Always fun to try new techniques! Let me know how it goes
@libbyholt3863
@libbyholt3863 8 ай бұрын
Issues: 1)When I tried a similar system in Albuquerque, the tomato vines grew so long that I had no place to train them to once they reached the conduit. Today, I'm thinking cattle panel arches or tunnels. That would give each vine 16 feet - up, over, and down the other side. 2) Thanks to the type of pruning you suggest, I had lots of plants & lots of heavy tomatoes! My conduit sagged in the middle under the load. However, I may have used only half inch whereas you suggest 3/4". I cudda tried that the following year, but I got crazy & used plumbing pipe. Super strong enough but way more expensive and still had the length issue. 3) I used what appear to be the same white clips you're using. NM sun so brutal, the plastic clips grew brittle and many of them broke, especially any that I tried to move or re-use. Many didn't last the season & none lasted more than one. 4) Same for the white string. Many simply snapped under the weight as my vines grew heavier and heavier with tomatoes. Brightly colored nylon(?) boat rope f/WalMart worked better. It's way thicker than I'd have liked, but I was able to poke 6-10" strips of old t-shirts in between the fibers of the rope. I used them to loosely tie the vines to the rope. Now I've moved 3 states over, I've gotta start from scratch. I'm thinking that with cattle panel arches, I'd still need the cloth strips, but not the string or rope, yes? I'm also thinking, whoa, buddy, cattle panels are expensive!!! Plus, a real challenge to transport. So, I dunno. Maybe your system, but with two rows, 10' apart, and connected (like clotheslines) across their tops by boat rope?!?! AIEEE!! Makes me wanna give up gardening. Lol. I guess the obvious solution is cut the vines and don't allow them to grow past the conduit. But then, why grow indeterminants? Sorry. Too long. Bye now.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 8 ай бұрын
The tomahook allows you to unravel, so the stalk will coil down on the ground. This gives you "infinite" height in a way. The plastic clips definitely don't last too long. Unfortunately, the compostable kind break even faster. For really heavy tomato varieties, I wouldn't recommend this method. For indeterminates, you could use a cattle panel trellis or arch since it's stronger. For determinates, a cattle panel cage like this works well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aojRdnqKbJWZh9k But yes they're tricky to transport even with a truck. Most important part is to keep learning and experimenting which you're doing! :) Maybe even try two or three methods with the same variety and find what works best for you.
@Fr4nkSanchez
@Fr4nkSanchez 6 ай бұрын
I used cattle panels, vertical 4x8. I had to use the panles to fence around my little garden. I will try vertical trellis with PVC structure (I know it sounds flimsy but I did a 8W x 5H with a post in the middle, I am thinking either use a trellis mesh or vertical I havent decide yet. Cattle panel was good, I am 5'11 but still wants something I can reach with my hands without a ladder, just because ergonomics, I dont have a big ladder or it will be difficult to move one around in my little garden
@DanielleBeaty
@DanielleBeaty 6 ай бұрын
If you use hooks at the top of the trellis, you just unhook them when they reach the top and move one space over. Repeat as needed. Then all your tomato vines can grow at a diagonal, looping around the trellis as needed.
@hoobeydoobey1267
@hoobeydoobey1267 6 ай бұрын
Just did this yesterday. Found your video today. I like how you used the string clamps on the base of the plant. I tied the strong to landscape nails/spikes.
@Vaseemm
@Vaseemm 2 жыл бұрын
For a video on the trellis system, you mostly talked about suckers and not how you have those strings tied at the bottom and how you get the plants around the strings I.E how the trellis system needs to be set up with the plants and used.
@ollady7968
@ollady7968 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, this "trellis" video veered off a bit. looking for a trellis solution for a new garden and this might work. I already have the post and clips...but would like to see more details about the set-up.... how was the string anchored ,how were the poles set up,etc
@jrow84
@jrow84 2 жыл бұрын
She made a very quick comment about just wrapping the plant around the string. I didn't hear anything about the anchor, I'm guessing just some kind of spike?
@Vaseemm
@Vaseemm 2 жыл бұрын
@@jrow84 Yes all left to people guessing
@SueSeacooks
@SueSeacooks 2 жыл бұрын
From what I have seen of similar trellis systems here in the UK, the string is planted under the rootball when transplanting the tomato seedlings. As the plant and the roots grow, the string is anchored in the soil.
@Vaseemm
@Vaseemm 2 жыл бұрын
@@SueSeacooks Yes had to go to another video to get information that this video should have provided
@jengasaway1032
@jengasaway1032 Жыл бұрын
Omg, thank you! This is the simplest, shortest video explaining the technique and essential tips. I've watched many videos trying to learn and I have a short attention span. Lol. Gosh, thank you!
@CitizenKate
@CitizenKate Жыл бұрын
This has become my favorite tomato trellising system too, after trying three other methods of trellising indeterminate tomatoes. You mention this works great with your row gardening layout, but I also use this method with my raised beds. I've also used this method for my pole beans. For one thing, once you get it set up, it's the lowest maintenance trellising system I've used. And it's *very* strong. The vertical stakes get strapped onto the sides of the bed and anchored into the adjacent ground with rebar, and in the time I've used it, it has stood up to some very high winds and kept the plants firmly in place. They'll stand up to just about anything short of a tornado.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
Love that! Raised beds deserve love too
@russkgreen
@russkgreen Жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm also growing in mixed raised beds, so your success story caught my eye. Gonna give it a go - tomatoes just getting ready for support in New England - For string - jute twine or did you go with something stronger? You grow cherry toms this way too? On the fence whether to prune cherry tomatoes and grow up leaders vs cage and let 'em go. Best!
@Ravenzpeak
@Ravenzpeak 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's how I do it too. I have goat fencing around the veg garden and used a piece of that over the top to tie my strings to. I tried plastic clips to hold the vines but am going back to cloth because with the heavy winds we had, the stems broke off with clips. They didn't break with cloth. TFS
@priayief
@priayief 3 жыл бұрын
Using those PVC T's is a great idea for making these trellises. I've always bent the EMT so that I have a horizontal piece and two legs, to which I attach straight pieces of EMT so that I have the appropriate height. The legs are inserted into 3/4 inch PVC attached to the sides of my 4 foot-square wooden beds. Bending the EMT has always been problematic - it can be challenge to bend it so that it is close to the correct width. However, once it's done, these types of trellises last forever. Your method is much simpler and it looks like it would work just as well for me. In addition, removing and storing these trellises looks easier and more efficient. Thanks for posting.
@biancamarvelous2575
@biancamarvelous2575 3 жыл бұрын
You should’ve shown us HOW to tie the tomato and set you the trellis. Will be much more helpful
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 3 жыл бұрын
We clip it with a plant clip. We have a more detailed video here. Check it out! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnWvZICZh9CDmMk
@splunge2222
@splunge2222 Жыл бұрын
Advice just in the nick of time!
@LethalLuggage
@LethalLuggage Жыл бұрын
​@@SanDiegoSeedCompany the system you describe in that video looks nothing like whats in this video minus maybe the clip
@chops5084
@chops5084 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but you could figure it out, right? I mean, how hard could it be..
@supereight9221
@supereight9221 9 ай бұрын
Imagine being a toddler and demanding someone explaining how to tie shoes in a demonstration about running
@je-fq7ve
@je-fq7ve Жыл бұрын
you can stick the suckers in the ground and they will root. It helps to clip off most of the top growth before sticking it in the ground. If you have the space you can easily plant a second bed with them. They are already mature plants, even if they are suckers so they produce quickly.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
Yes, love using suckers! If you don't have the space, share with friends!
@je-fq7ve
@je-fq7ve Жыл бұрын
@@SanDiegoSeedCompany Might have to put them in a plastic pot for people to take them. Most gardeners i show it to dont believe it will root and produce.
@dragoncarver287
@dragoncarver287 3 жыл бұрын
Been doing that for several years now. 1 inch PVC in the greenhouse, homemade thing outside. Works awesome. 2 main differences: 1 I wind the plant around the string. It supports the plant without rubbing AND 2. figured this out finally this year. I usually drive the string into the ground but sometimes it pulls out easily. I ran a line between stakes at ground level and tied the vertical line to it. Only had to anchor it in a few spots. Doesn't pull out if it catches on my clothes or something. Interesting that you can run 2 leaders. Gonna try that with a few. I have done that with grafted plants which grow fantastic but are expensive. Great if you don't have a lot of room. Glad I watched this.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 3 жыл бұрын
We shot another video because so many questions came out of the first one. Check it out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnWvZICZh9CDmMk Love to hear your feedback.
@lanoredixon170
@lanoredixon170 6 ай бұрын
This is the best system for tomato supports I've seen yet. This will work for containers as well if you set the T post inside a piece of PVC that's been cemented inside a 5-gallon bucket . That way you can move your T post easily when you move your containers of tomatoes.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 6 ай бұрын
I like that idea!
@room3950
@room3950 2 жыл бұрын
I’d plant marigolds between the tomatoes to keep the hornworms away. I always plant marigolds with my tomatoes and never get hornworms. (zone 10)
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
Good call. Hornworms are something else!
@sammyarmstrong2098
@sammyarmstrong2098 Жыл бұрын
I keep seeing numerous folks stating to plant Marigolds near the tomatoes, but I also read that Marigolds are magnets for red spider mites? Have you had issues with spider mites? I maybe be off the road here so I would greatly appreciate any insights you can offer, Thank You
@georgeingridirwin6180
@georgeingridirwin6180 9 ай бұрын
This year I am going to grow Lavender & marigolds around my tomatoes. I recently read that the lavender keeps away what the marigolds don't. We will see. Last we only did the marigolds & didn't have but 2 hornworms. Got rid of them while they were quite small & that was it.
@srf2112
@srf2112 2 жыл бұрын
Simple, cheap and effective. Great system. Thank you for sharing this.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! If you use a system like this, we'd love to see it. You can tag us on Instagram or Facebook :)
@bluebirdhomestead
@bluebirdhomestead 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting method of trellising. We may have to give that a try next year. Thanks for sharing!
@cheifasmith
@cheifasmith 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome system.. l learnt this system 20 years ago from a farmer in Ireland.. we did the same for the cucumbers..Thanks for sharing
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 3 жыл бұрын
Your welcome!
@TheMontyOriginal
@TheMontyOriginal Жыл бұрын
I root suckers occasionally; however, I enjoy adding tomato suckers and leaves to salads or dehydrate them for teas.
@larryadams458
@larryadams458 Жыл бұрын
Forgive my ignorance. Do you root the string to the ground in some fashion or to the plant’s base? If on the ground, how do you do this? If tethered to the plant, will the plant get damaged? Lastly, will this technique work for other climbing plants such as cucumbers?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
Great questions! I like to use a stake in the ground just next to the plant. It's secure and doesn't harm the plant. As it grows, I use plant clips to keep the main stalk in line with the string. Yes, this can also work for cucumbers.
@SheltiesRule49
@SheltiesRule49 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I haven’t had a garden in a long time and had forgotten a lot. Your video is a Very helpful insight to what needs to be done to tomato plants as they grow. Thank you so much again!
@kengiacopazzi6422
@kengiacopazzi6422 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Loved the video but, can you please focus on a sucker. What it looks like so I’m not clipping off the wrong ones! Thx Ken from N Cal.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ken! We have some new videos coming out about pruning coming out next month (when my tomatoes are larger), but it can still be hard to see on video sometimes. Check out our new ebook for some great info on suckers and all things tomatoes. sandiegoseedcompany.com/gardening-guide-ebooks-to-help-you-grow/
@4wheelliving132
@4wheelliving132 Жыл бұрын
I grew tomatoes on a trellis this year and I'll never go back. I still put a few plants in pots, but they're hybrids and are early producers that don't get very big. Next year I'm going to let 2 leaders grow, because this year production wasn't as good as I hoped. No problems with bugs or diseases
@KimcheePancakes
@KimcheePancakes 9 ай бұрын
It would have been helpful if you showed us how you weave the tomato plant into the twine? Do you do a vertical Florida weave style within the two threads, or do you just use the two threads as if it was one thread, and clip the main stem to it as it grows?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 9 ай бұрын
Hey, there! You don't weave in this method. You use clips every foot or so up the main stalk to keep it growing upright along the line.
@topkinginer
@topkinginer 4 жыл бұрын
First time gardener and i trellised my San Diego seed co. Large cherry tomatoes the same way and there 5ft tall already with 4-5 fruit sets growing on each already. 👍 works great for sure. Thanks for the quality seeds.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 4 жыл бұрын
topkinginer thank you for being a valued grower! Post photos of your cherries. We want to see them!
@rustynails5462
@rustynails5462 8 ай бұрын
I found some clothes-drying racks, stainless for outdoor (duh) that are like an X on each end with two upper poles about 4' high. They are perfect for this system, and after the season you just fold them up and put them away. I use a trampoline anchor to keep them from tipping over in the wind.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 8 ай бұрын
Such a good idea! Love it
@SageandStoneHomestead
@SageandStoneHomestead 2 жыл бұрын
How does the string attach? I'm confused about how to attach the plant and how the string is anchored.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
We use compostable garden clips to link the string and the plant. They cinch down nicely on the string and have a gap around the stalk, so it gives the plant wiggle room. As for the ground, you can tie a knot around a stake.
@eigleenalegri2664
@eigleenalegri2664 6 ай бұрын
For hornworms use a determinate tomato as a decoy. I had one ate the entire determiate tomato. The leaves are likely richer due to the short grow span.
@wuzgoanon9373
@wuzgoanon9373 2 жыл бұрын
Not much info here about how the string is attached at the bottom and what you use to clip the 0lant to the string. I'll figure something out. Thanks for the idea.
@scaram0uche
@scaram0uche 2 жыл бұрын
Others use stakes or other heavy objects like washers. Vinyl garden tape is great for tying up tomatoes.
@WesternMONo-TillGardening
@WesternMONo-TillGardening Жыл бұрын
After trying the Florida weave two years now and struggling with it each time, I’m trying this method next year.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
All about trying out new things and finding what works for you :)
@fredwienbarg5051
@fredwienbarg5051 2 жыл бұрын
I use that system and love it. Last year I had tomato plants over 7 feet high.
@dpirene1
@dpirene1 Жыл бұрын
What is the size of the PVC T connectors?
@floydbertagnolli944
@floydbertagnolli944 9 ай бұрын
One. Please provide a link for the plastic clips that you use. Two. How do you secure the string down at the soil level?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 9 ай бұрын
The plant clips are here: sandiegoseedcompany.com/product-category/tools-and-merchandise/crop-supports/ We tie the string to a stake that's in the ground next to the plant
@lisavincenti4688
@lisavincenti4688 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I had the wrong idea about suckers - I was taking off the leaf below the sucker and leaving the sucker! This is great all around cheers
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 3 жыл бұрын
Happy we could help!
@davewright1499
@davewright1499 8 ай бұрын
thank you just saw your video today saw another one a month earlier with tstakes and conduit with string but not those little clips in Canada though so won't be planting for another 4 weeks cheers
@marilynthompson4072
@marilynthompson4072 2 жыл бұрын
Questions: what length t posts & what size pvc t's did you use please?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
Great questions! I recommend 8 or 10 foot posts. Your PVC should be just large enough but not too loose (it still works but not as snug) to fit your posts. 3/4" should be about right depend on your system
@robertmotea8192
@robertmotea8192 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect explanation of why the suckers need to be removed. 👍 I use a similar system, and just tweak it a little every season. Works well..
@petepolovich5414
@petepolovich5414 Жыл бұрын
I was tying tomatoes up back in the late 60's for my friends greenhouse
@robertma2146
@robertma2146 6 ай бұрын
I e never seen a double string used. Time to modify mine. Question; Are both strings adjustable in length?
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 7 ай бұрын
Great info, I think. Why not propagate the suckers, tho? Just no space?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's usually the limiting factor for most people. Using those suckers is a great idea if you can though!
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 7 ай бұрын
@@SanDiegoSeedCompany For some the limiting factor may be water (if you dry-farm, the sucker won't have enough water unless you irrigate or you get a fortuitous rain), but yeah.
@jamesmcgarity614
@jamesmcgarity614 8 ай бұрын
Will give it a shot might make it easier to spray for root rot
@markstevens5233
@markstevens5233 6 ай бұрын
If I may, what kind of plastic clips are you using and where can I get them.?
@eddiespagetti8395
@eddiespagetti8395 Жыл бұрын
You look like a model for gardening. Beautiful in that outfit. Gorgeous garden as well. This is the good life. Your living the dream. Thanks for share. I'm hooked on gardening at age 52 now. Life's a garden DIG IT. Guru Joe dirtai
@AndrewHelgeCox
@AndrewHelgeCox 3 жыл бұрын
Suckers are cuttings that can grow into a whole new plant if you put them into water to grow some roots.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct!
@janwilliams4282
@janwilliams4282 3 жыл бұрын
Looks good. I wish you had described how you attached the string to the bottom of the plant though.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feed back. We have another video coming!
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 3 жыл бұрын
Here ya go! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnWvZICZh9CDmMk
@jamesmoody562
@jamesmoody562 9 ай бұрын
Bury the string under the root ball. It will anchor itself as the plant grows.
@GreenLove1
@GreenLove1 Жыл бұрын
Do you do this even for cherry tomatoes, or just for the regular indeterminates?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
This is really for indeterminate varieties
@rousefire
@rousefire Жыл бұрын
I did the same thing with an old trampoline safety frame . I knew it would be of use sometime . I drove four foot long wooden stakes into the ground then simply slipped the arch shape post over them . Total cost, zero. Eight foot high .
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
Heck yes! Love the creativity & reuse of materials
@wayne93094
@wayne93094 7 ай бұрын
Is this trellis method feasible in Kansas, it is very windy here and I am afraid that. Hanging them would not be so good but I love the idea. I also fear that I won't get as many tomatoes if I don't let them bush out.
@ahnaahna7278
@ahnaahna7278 Жыл бұрын
Thks for trellis idea. I’m making several wide teepees….and laying a long lightweight yard branch across all those horizontally for strings. I used a long deck railing one year. That worked great too. Ahna usa
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
Oooo I like how that sounds too!
@franktobar8764
@franktobar8764 Жыл бұрын
very nice , what do you do when the plant grows taller than your trellis?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
At that point, the bottom of the stalk won't have foliage anymore so we let it coil which allows the top to stay the same height.
@lawrencehinds9133
@lawrencehinds9133 2 жыл бұрын
How does the ‘conduit’ stay rigid without sagging under any weight....???? Larry.... Australia
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but I suggest 3/4 “ over 1/2”
@stevemiller3050
@stevemiller3050 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same...the tomatoes were sooooo heavy it bent the conduit pretty bad. Still the best trellis system yet for me as it is movable
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Those must have been some hefty tomatoes! What do you do for fertilizing?
@ligiagomez3960
@ligiagomez3960 2 жыл бұрын
What I need to know is...where did you get your hat. I love it!! Thank you for the tomato growing tips also, will definitely try this next tomato season.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
Don't judge me, but it's from Disneyland. Lol
@ligiagomez3960
@ligiagomez3960 2 жыл бұрын
Love it even more...thank you. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS.
@ailahome4988
@ailahome4988 7 ай бұрын
Since indeterminant plants grow 10ft tall, do you think 8foot t-post is sufficient? Any tips on what to do when it outgrows?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 7 ай бұрын
That's when you get to the "lean" part of the process! You can let the plant droop outward, slide them all down the line, or let the bottom (if it's been pruned to just the stalk) coil on the ground. You can easily get more plant height than the plant. However, I would go longer than 8 feet because about 2 of that will be in the ground. Your trellis should be somewhere around 7-ish feet depending on your height. Tall enough but still within reach.
@jefffbiz
@jefffbiz 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS VIDEO,How far apart do you place your stakes?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on your space and how many plants you are growing but about 9 feet is good (10 foot conduit with a little extra to hang over)
@h.s.6269
@h.s.6269 Жыл бұрын
Barely talked on the specifics of the trellis... How tall are the T-posts, how long are the conduits, and if the conduits are 10' how many plants can it handle without compromising it's strength?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
Those are all things that can be adjusted to fit your situation and growing area. I recommend 8 or 10 foot t-posts. Conduit probably shouldn't span more than about 10 feet either.
@h.s.6269
@h.s.6269 Жыл бұрын
@@SanDiegoSeedCompany k, ty! I've been hearing mixed results about spanning it 10' without a center brace, so I'm trying to get as many opinions on that before I build mine in spring.
@tcapo514
@tcapo514 Жыл бұрын
That's a good idea I live in San Diego to. You could probably use that system but run some lines horizontal for string beans. 😎👍
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
Yes, that's a great idea
@rebeccabenson6922
@rebeccabenson6922 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes we have heavy dry winds in Ramona, as you know? Wondering how this works at your Ramona farm? My area is exposed at present.
@frrecham8838
@frrecham8838 2 жыл бұрын
What cool weather coastal tomato varieties do you recommendv!¿!??
@donchamberlain7139
@donchamberlain7139 9 ай бұрын
What anchors the trellis strands to the ground? Maybe I missed something.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 9 ай бұрын
We tie the string to a stake near the base of the plant
@jimmy_angel1
@jimmy_angel1 2 жыл бұрын
yup i take my suckers off and then plant the suckers in a small planter extends more fruit place in container and very wet soil and just stick that sucker in it will make roots and more tomatoes
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
Love it! Endless tomatoes :)
@Ajm2894
@Ajm2894 3 жыл бұрын
Where do you tie the string to on the bottom? Did you use something to keep the plant growing up the string? What did you use?
@timjohnson3913
@timjohnson3913 3 жыл бұрын
Google “tomato clips”; they are what she used and are a great/inexpensive way to provide support/attachment to the string.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 3 жыл бұрын
We use these: sandiegoseedcompany.com/product/tools-and-merchandise/garden-plant-clips/ Also, a more in-depth video was just shot. Check it out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnWvZICZh9CDmMk
@tammmmyr
@tammmmyr 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the San Diego climate so much! Folks back in AL are shocked when I tell them I had tomatoe plants that lived for years, having blooms, green and red tomatoes on them at the same time.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
It is amazing huh?
@tro4404
@tro4404 2 жыл бұрын
If you live in San Diego you drink filtered toilet water. Not so appetizing when you think about. I mean my own toilet water might be okay, but the rest of you maybe not.
@sammyarmstrong2098
@sammyarmstrong2098 Жыл бұрын
great video! I watched Satin Farms video on this topic. I noted he stated 1/2' conduit & that you chose 3/4". I'm just interested if you feel the 3/4" is the way to go and why?? Thank you
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
We chose to go a little bigger in this case because of the distance between the t posts. It bends a little but it's not going to break or anything
@angiejones3350
@angiejones3350 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of string do you use? Also, do you tie your string to anything on the ground?
@vinlago
@vinlago 3 жыл бұрын
Also curious what sort of clips they use to attach the strings
@ttb1513
@ttb1513 3 жыл бұрын
The clips I used with a similar trellis system can be found on Amazon: "Tomato, Garden, and Vine Clips, 250 Count, Paskal Quick Clips". They are a reusable clip and are a little less than 1" in diameter when closed. On the opposite side of the clip is a trough with a dull barb that when the clip is closed, the trellis twine gets pinched and secured to the chosen height on the twine. The clip is able to hold up significant weight of the vine loaded with tomatoes. They work great! Just look for plastic circular clips that will trap the twine well when the clip is closed, with the tomato stem within the circular clip.
@davewright1499
@davewright1499 8 ай бұрын
what are the little white circular clips? Do you attach that near the base ?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 8 ай бұрын
The clips have little teeth that grab the string, and the larger circle goes around the stalk without actually clamping on it. The string will run all the way up alongside the plant to guide it, and it's tied to a stake in the ground. sandiegoseedcompany.com/product-category/tools-and-merchandise/crop-supports/
@randallbaker4293
@randallbaker4293 Жыл бұрын
You didn't mention what type of twine you used?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
I prefer natural fibers. They will probably only last a season, but you can compost those. Plastic will last longer but will break in the sun and just end up in the trash.
@JipseeGirl
@JipseeGirl 2 жыл бұрын
love the pvc parts on this! Super easy!
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
It really is!
@DanScottChannel
@DanScottChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever used tomato hooks where as the plant reaches the top of the trellis/string, you can then unwind the string in order to lower the plant and continue upward growth? What do you do when the plant reaches the top? Do you top it off?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 3 жыл бұрын
Here is our latest video where I really dig in deep into the low and lean method. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnWvZICZh9CDmMk
@neffrahcs
@neffrahcs Жыл бұрын
How do you know if a tomato plant is determinant or indeterminant?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
It should say on the seed pack, but you can always verify online too.
@robincunningham7710
@robincunningham7710 3 жыл бұрын
You never told us about the string. How is it attached at the bottom. I see that the string goes over the conduit on top.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 3 жыл бұрын
We made another more in-depth video for you! Watch for full details but in short, it's attached to the plant via a plant clip.
@kaladepue2788
@kaladepue2788 Жыл бұрын
How do you anchor the string?
@peterwallace7015
@peterwallace7015 Жыл бұрын
If by leaving suckers ( laterals ) or some of them and only getting a few tomatoes then you are doing something wrong. I have the main stem to about 1 ft and clean everything off below that, choose the best suckers out of several and remove the rest , leave a gap before again picking the best ( 1 or 2 ) suckers. Every flower becomes a tomato by gently shaking them every day. I have always tied the tomatoes and growing suckers too an overhead point. I am 72. I prefer an elastic type string which is kinder on the plants and allows the stem to grow without being strangled. and wind the string around the plant, or vice versa, as the plant grows.
@tkaigs4057
@tkaigs4057 Жыл бұрын
What do u do when plant reaches the top of trellis?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
The vine on the bottom won't have foliage, so you can let it coil on the ground which lets you lower the entire plant.
@tkaigs4057
@tkaigs4057 Жыл бұрын
@@SanDiegoSeedCompany Thk u for replying. Most of my stems are quite thick at the bottom. I can’t imagine them coiling. Hmmm
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
@@tkaigs4057 Check out these other vids we did on the sytem: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKnEZpd3o7eth80 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZPCaK2Mo5eJsLM kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnWvZICZh9CDmMk
@adrianmedrano653
@adrianmedrano653 2 жыл бұрын
We really like this system and will implement it from now on.
@Guitarzan8
@Guitarzan8 Жыл бұрын
Here in Minnesota I grow heirloom tomatoes and just let them grow. I get gallons and gallons of tomatoes off of them but a trellis system for someone who doesn’t prune is what I’m looking for.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
Determinate varieties are perfect if you don't want to have to prune!
@jasonschlencker8108
@jasonschlencker8108 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. After picking off the Sucker, can it be put into some seed and cutting mix to grow a new tomato plant? Regards, Jas. vk4fjgs Rockhampton Queensland Australia
@brendabowman622
@brendabowman622 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but is it worth it? I did that last year and got TWO whole tomatoes from it.
@twitwicki1
@twitwicki1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. I think the only flaw in this system is that the vines of indeterminate tomatoes (especially cherry type) will outgrow the height of the trellis. Green house growers (myself included) use a lower and lean system to accommodate the vine growth. Having a solid top bar in your system isn't compatible with the lower and lean devices I've seen since they are designed to hook over a 9 gauge wire. You could use a wire in your system instead of EMT conduit if you somehow braced the end poles. Just an idea. I plan to use your system this year to trellis melons and train them to a single leader.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! We use low and lean too- on the same system. Just hook tomahooks to a zip tie that is moveable on the conduit. It’s an improvement over this system for sure! Thanks for the great info. Here is an updated video : kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnWvZICZh9CDmMk
@christophersmith8014
@christophersmith8014 2 жыл бұрын
I've found it easier to just terminate the growth when the vine reaches the top and then graft a sucker back into the base (or just force one to grow from a lower growth point) to reset the vine from the bottom.
@freewillchoice8052
@freewillchoice8052 2 жыл бұрын
3/4 inch conduit, is ot 10 feet long? The stakes, are they 6 feet tall? How about the T's you have the conduit going into? Are they inch or inch and a half? Thank you in advance for your reply.
@freewillchoice8052
@freewillchoice8052 2 жыл бұрын
What about the clips you have on the base of the stem of the plant? Got a link to that so I can check it out? I'm new to tomatoes 🍅 and need to do something fast as they are getting big very quick. Thanks in advance.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
3/4 inch conduit is strong enough, especially if you put your posts a little closer. The PVC fitting just needs to be large enough, but it's okay to have some wiggle room. Some people will do a row of three posts which means your PVC will need to be large enough to fit two 3/4 inch conduit. 8 or even 10 foot T-posts are best so you can drive them into the ground a couple of feet. Here are the plant clips: sandiegoseedcompany.com/product/tools-and-merchandise/compostable-plant-clips/
@freewillchoice8052
@freewillchoice8052 2 жыл бұрын
@@SanDiegoSeedCompany thank you so much!
@cd7856
@cd7856 2 жыл бұрын
PVC should be 1-1/4 inch. That way, it will fit the top of the t-posts snuggly.
@billybob-wx2re
@billybob-wx2re 2 жыл бұрын
@@cd7856 thank you!!
@dannyboone3430
@dannyboone3430 Жыл бұрын
Helpful video thanks! Can you please tell me where you got your hat ?! Or the brand? It’s beautiful! 🌻
@lisaarmstrong1463
@lisaarmstrong1463 Жыл бұрын
I tried this method this year and the 3/4 inch conduit was not strong enough to support the weight of my tomatoes and bowed terribly by end of summer. I’ll need to try something with wood next year. Good concept, but conduit just not strong enough.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
Yes, you make need something beefier if you are spanning a wide gap, have lots of or heavy plants, etc.
@robertgrivetti7542
@robertgrivetti7542 Жыл бұрын
Do you move your trellis rows ,or keep them year after year.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
We do move them around a bit. We also add lots of compost, mulch & organic fertilizer throughout the year
@jasonhatfield4747
@jasonhatfield4747 3 жыл бұрын
Additional tip that I plan on trying with a system like this....just bury the string under the tomato plant when you plant it. Then you don't need those plastic clips. Charles Dowding does this;)
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@southerncomfort971
@southerncomfort971 3 жыл бұрын
I used this system last year for the first time and yeah it was great but i see that you have doubled your string? can you tell me why you went with two lines? and did you tie it off on the vine base?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 3 жыл бұрын
We have played around with several different version stringing up tomatoes. In the end, we liked the tomahawk system. We JUST shot a video yesterday with some in-depth information on the stringing up of the tomatoes. I will post it here once it is finished.
@claydavis2095
@claydavis2095 10 ай бұрын
Would this work for Cherokee purples. They take a little longer to ripen on the east coast. Would they be to heavy for this system?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 10 ай бұрын
For some of those really heavy varieties, a sturdier trellis can make better sense
@claydavis2095
@claydavis2095 10 ай бұрын
@@SanDiegoSeedCompany any recommendations?
@shanehill4290
@shanehill4290 2 жыл бұрын
How do you anchor the bottom of the string?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
Plant clip
@DreidMusicalX
@DreidMusicalX 2 жыл бұрын
I am trying to use this system now with my tomatoes this year. The only bad thing is I went out and bought some thin rope just to find out it has a chemical in it that can cause cancer. I'm afraid it might leech into my garden bed with rain. Then I decided to not use it. Then I just bought some cotton rope thinking that would be good enough. Only to watcha video finding out that they spray cotton that has the crap in it that will make all your plants wilt and die for a few years destroying the garden bed. I just about have my plants ready to go in the ground but no string to find yet. Any advise on some strong string that will hold them and not put chemicals in my body or plants? I could really use some advise.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
We use tomato twine.
@ThatBritishHomestead
@ThatBritishHomestead Жыл бұрын
I like that trellis looks like a really good idea. I may give it a go this year!
@tvisitor
@tvisitor Жыл бұрын
I'm going to try getting rid of the suckers next year. My plants this year were way too bulky and fell over. @San Diego Seed Company: Should I start training only 2 main vines from when the plant is a seedling, or wait until some stage of growth?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
You should start it fairly early on (with determinate varieties) and maybe even before you transplant it. Suckers might not show up right away, but they'll pop up quickly.
@tvisitor
@tvisitor Жыл бұрын
@SanDiegoSeedCompany thank you!
@bonho8913
@bonho8913 8 ай бұрын
How do you fix the pvc tee onto the t-post?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 8 ай бұрын
It just rests right on it. You don't need to glue or anything like that
@arthurjackson861
@arthurjackson861 7 ай бұрын
what do do to keep your tomatoes from sun scall
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 7 ай бұрын
Shade cloth has helped a ton with this!
@dmatukian
@dmatukian 2 жыл бұрын
While this works and looks effective for the main stalk, how does it work when some big indeterminate tomatoes start coming in? How are they supported by the string?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 2 жыл бұрын
This is a old video and we have a newer, better one on our channel but for someone reason this gets all the attention! You have to prune it down to “one”leader. That allows for consistent ripening on tomatoes.
@taterjones5544
@taterjones5544 Жыл бұрын
What are the strings anchored to on the bottom
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany Жыл бұрын
Just some garden stakes. The metal U style can work, but I like something a little beefier
@lolawilliams9906
@lolawilliams9906 9 ай бұрын
NEED MORE INFO ON THE TOMATO CLAMP.
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 9 ай бұрын
We just use little clips like these. There are compostable versions too, but they don't last very long: sandiegoseedcompany.com/product-category/tools-and-merchandise/crop-supports/
@danacarbone9405
@danacarbone9405 3 жыл бұрын
great idea, but what do you have the bottom of the string attached to at the bottom that it is so tight?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 3 жыл бұрын
We attach it with a plant clip. Check out our more detailed video here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnWvZICZh9CDmMk
@alexpetrovich441
@alexpetrovich441 7 ай бұрын
im assuming you just tie the string to the plant itself?
@teenadamron7654
@teenadamron7654 2 жыл бұрын
Ok I want this hat❣️ Can you tell me where I can find it? Kind of garden related
@RobertPorterNZ
@RobertPorterNZ 3 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on if this would work with romas since they dont grow as tall ?
@SanDiegoSeedCompany
@SanDiegoSeedCompany 3 жыл бұрын
Roma’s are determinate plants. This system works best with indeterminate tomatoes 🍅
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