DON'T BUY A FULL FRAME CAMERA! Sony APS-C vs. Full Frame.

[@dunnadidit]

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[@marcus3d]

The FF isn't really better at low light in itself, but rather makes it easier to make equally bright lenses. For example, on FF an f/1.8 would be like an f/1.2 on APS-C, and it's easier to make good f/1.8 optics than good f/1.2 optics.

[@jonia368]

Dunna Did It which lenses do you use on your a6400?

[@threepe0]

Marcus Sundman full frame sensors are indeed better performing in low light given an aperture size.

[@dunnadidit]

Jonas - I use the sigma trio (16,30,56, 18-105 f4) and then my FF lenses too... Tamron 17-28, Tamron 28-75, and a couple others as well.

[@marcus3d]

@@threepe0 Nope, not aperture. Given an F-number, yes, but not given an equivalent lens (which coincidentally has a similar aperture).

[@nrmpt9903]

Every photographer: You don't need full frame, it's you, not the camera. Every photographer: Has a full frame.

[@Remer714]

It's just a bogus claim that the technology does not influence your images greatly. You've got a much greater keeper range with better equipment. Sure, a camera for $100 might produce good images but only in controlled settings or with many many more that are deleted right after the scene was photographed. It's comparative to the claim that "Depression can be cured by happy thoughts". Happy thoughts (i.e. your skill) helps a lot but sometimes you just need therapy/medication and that's the reason holding you back. Simple as that.

[@azzifyy5988]

Full frame has its benefits just like APS-C has it's benefits, it's down to the users specific needs as to whether they need full frame or not, full frame would be better if you're a wedding photographer or portrait photographer

[@itsvaren1054]

@@Remer714 yes and no, its meant that you need to use ur camera to the max before upgrading

[@Spiderwithweb]

Also, every pro and sport camera mostly is a full frame (Sony's single digit A7 - A9, Canon 1D, Nikon D5, and so on)

[@jimmyhinAK]

Right tool right job still believe that to be true. Sometimes the tool is micro four thirds, apsc, full frame, medium format range finder whatever I think you get the point. There are professional photographers who shoot with all of these formats and the format they use works for them. I own apsc micro four thirds full frame and a point and shoot. I am not a business photographer who sells their work so I am the client and I use what I want and I do use them all . If I chose to make photography a business I know some of my gear is not durable enough for constant use such as my thrift store tripod I payed $5 for or my cheap walmart flash.

[@ElBoyoElectronico]

Not having enough money helps with the decision...

[@dunnadidit]

It definitely narrows the options for you.

[@rickbiessman6084]

That’s exactly how I did it! =)

[@arifurrahman52]

"All sony aps-c has flip screen" Me: cries in a6000

[@dunnadidit]

Haha I tried to make sure I said it was just the new lineup (a6100, a6400, a6600). I know how you feel with my a6500, that was why I got the 6400 too.

[@arifurrahman52]

I brought it recently as I am new to photography... Not regretting it so far ^_^

[@elijahcarr4137]

The a5100 does have a flip screen and it's almost as good as the a6000

[@dunnadidit]

A6000 is still a great camera, especially to learn on.

[@Moses_Kanneh]

It would not be nearly as bad if Sony upgraded the imaging app. I still use my phone for monitoring myself and composition at home.

[@quirkworks4076]

Great video, and thanks for making it clear that APS-C is not a "downgrade." I made a very good living shooting APS-C for many years and my clients were always happy (and even now when I shoot both APS-C and FF, my clients cannot tell the difference).

[@bigfoad]

You know what... Iam aint buying a camera anymore. Just buying me a saxophone.

[@dunnadidit]

Probably a good call

[@Dangling_Carrot]

I got a scooter

[@bigfoad]

@@Dangling_Carrot wise decision, bro. You got ur cellphone to shoot. Iam also getting better at saxing

[@Mike-vd2qt]

Smartphone camera, and bicycle :-)

[@pavelcerno24]

😂😂🤣

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

tx for this, been really thinking I need the a7iii for my studio but honestly it'd be better for my night-time stuff at events. Now talk me out of buying a Black Magic Pocket Cinema 6K please...

[@dunnadidit]

Umm... autofocus? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

@@dunnadidit I shoot in manual already since a few times my a6500 kept trying to pull focus from my background

[@dunnadidit]

I got nothing then. It seems solid lol. I kinda want one too.

[@saifalnaqbi2819]

@Derpimuss easy. Sell the products

[@thetechrealist]

@Derpimuss Do you ever sell anything you buy? Or even have money saved up for spending? Maybe you got medical bills or something but it could also be paying way more in rent.

[@denism131]

Agreed, I guess another reason for full frame is the dynamic range. In theory the ful frame sensor should give you a higher range to recover details in blacks and whites / burnt out areas and totally dark areas. But I would be fine with the a6300, if only it had 2 card slots. I want two slots because when doing client work I need that backup for my peace of mind.

[@dunnadidit]

Great point! The difference isn’t huge but it’s there for sure! That two card slots gets a lot of people I think.

[@marc_likes_marketing]

100% about the dual card slots.

[@cameraprepper7938]

Yes full frame gives you significant better dynamic range.

[@AsianBlackR3501]

I own Sony Full frame A7iii and Sony A6400.I highly recommend to buy full frame camera.(Unless you do video).If you are trying to save money, buy APS-C camera.

[@dunnadidit]

Thanks for your input.

[@sandro6691]

What if you do video and photo and want something compact? haha

[@bozhidarabozhilova5067]

What do you mean by unless you do a video? :)

[@AsianBlackR3501]

Bozhidara Bozhilova To me, APS-C is more compact, light and easy to carry when doing video work.

[@AsianBlackR3501]

@@sandro6691 Then buy APS-C. New A7siii is best for video but you will have to pay over $3500.

[@MrBenthefirst]

bought the a7iii 5 minutes ago....

[@dunnadidit]

YAY! You'll love it I'm sure! I'm not saying it's bad by any means... I love mine. Its just overkill for a lot of people, but sometimes overkill is fun 😉

[@officialcentrificproductio7594]

@@dunnadidit overkill? Lmao

[@dunnadidit]

OfficialCentrificProductions Germany - yup. Overkill... it means “more than what was needed” and for a lot of people, full frame and all the wonderful glory and power of the a7iii is probably overkill. Most people could do with their phone, or a point and shoot or if they really want interchangeable lenses then apsc would work.

[@officialcentrificproductio7594]

And yeah I'm already aware that apsc is better for vlogging and travel cause its "more handy and small" but there are like people who just buy this cam for vlogging or other small things that could be handled by a apsc camera and I'm like "weird flex bro"

[@demacrow6504]

OfficialCentrificProductions Germany Well full frame could be better for vloging more weight is good to warm up your muscle and no crop on full frame helps get wider lenses.

[@haxacodex3784]

Fact is no one but other photographers care about your gear..you can get paid clients on a full frame..or a point and shoot...if it's for work..people just want it done to their request..if you're doing it for art..agian no one cares...so always get the one you think is cool..if you like it..you'll like using it..and thats all that matters...because like everything..its just manufactures making you think new stuff is a need...when you can be a pro photographer with a camera from 2010

[@dunnadidit]

Well put Piper!!

[@boltmann]

Best comment!

[@dhrubajyotisheet2980]

Your statement just convince to buy an APS-C and saved my money to buy a prime lense along with it. Thanks from India Bro

[@snootyfilms8617]

I don't now why there's this gear fetishisation in photography. No one insists you need a certain instrument to make beautiful music or a certain pigment to produce a beautiful painting. Full frame may make it easier to produce professional results but that's not to say you can't with crop sensors, it depends on what you're going for and the type of photography you're doing. This obsession with the tech distracts from the art of it, and I can refute the claim you can't work professionally with crop-sensors as I know a number of folks in the community working professionally that work exclusively with the format.

[@jimi272]

Snooty Films ah ah ahhhh you’re not deep enough into the guitar community, I think the electric guitar community is even worse than photography considering gear fetishisation... amps are body’s, guitars are lenses, but all the pedals have no way be compared in photography equipment ( mayyybe gimbals hehe)

[@explorewithschu]

The high ISO performance is one of the main reasons I upgraded. Many of my clients I film for are music producers, when they have shows. In this type of environment, where I have little to no control over the lighting, the A7iii ability to produce a usable image up to ISO 12800 is worth it to me Definitely miss the price of APSC lenses though

[@dunnadidit]

Yeah I hear that, I shoot a lot of things like that for my business and having full frame has definitely been helpful... I was getting by fine before but my image is cleaner now for sure!

[@marcus3d]

It's more about the lens than the sensor. Slapping a slow lens on FF doesn't make the result less noisy than with a fast lens on APS-C. Just as with focal length and aperture you have to use equivalent ISO. The FF ISO 12800 has APS-C equivalent ISO 5700. One system isn't really better than the other, it's about the availability of equivalent lenses and ISO values. For example, if you use 24mm F/1.8 at ISO 400 on an APS-C you will get the same field of view, depth of field, image noise, and exposure (basically the same image in every way) as 36mm F/2.7 at ISO 900 on a FF.

[@JacReviewsStuff]

Really? Video is usable up until iso 12, 800? Damn... Now my Fuji Xt3 being usable until 6,400 sounds not so good

[@JacReviewsStuff]

@@marcus3d : just to be clear, "slow" means slow autofocus speed? Or small aperture? Like F4?

[@dunnadidit]

Interesting, I've never heard of someone also applying the crop factor to the iso before. I'll have to do some testing with this!

[@GeorgeStar]

For most photographers going from APS-C to FF is like going from a car that goes 200mph to one that goes 225 mph because it's "better" even tho you only use your car for shopping.

[@SatanSupimpa]

In the case of Sony cameras, one thing I really like about the aps-c system that you can't have with the full frame cameras, is the rangefinder position of the viewfinder. I much appreciate not having my nose against the screen.

[@dunnadidit]

Ah yes!! I don’t really use the viewfinder much but I suppose that would be helpful!

[@billymurphy3]

I would appreciate this more if I didn’t learn on a smartphone/a5100 where you only have a screen 😂 I hate when I smudge my screen with my nose on the A7III though 😂

[@markrobinson891]

SatanSupimpa on my 6400 I’m using the EVF 90+% of the time. Even with a bright screen it’s often hard to see in sunlight. Plus, using a view finder just seems like a “real” camera vs smart phone.

[@gfxmaniac]

You can always use nose to choose focus point.

[@dunnadidit]

Haha!! 👃

[@randywilliams847]

I have been happy with my APSC gear for years until I walked into a gallery in Prescott Arizona a couple of weeks ago. There were gigantic prints on metal that were as sharp as a tack! Made me feel like a beginner.

[@dunnadidit]

You might still be able to get that with aps-c. Large prints has more to do with megapixel count than sensor size.

[@commenter4799]

People used to make massive prints before the gear we have today existed. 300DPI at the minimum focusing distance of an eye may make sense for a cell phone, but billboards may only be 10 DPI and look fine. People usually don't look at massive prints from a foot away

[@chrisguli2865]

@@dunnadidit and the quality of the glass...and of course using the proper settings.

[@potownrob]

One thing I think you may have touched on but probably not enough is that the full frame lenses are usually bigger and heavier. To get a good quality zoom or fast prime lens on full frame, the lens is gonna be big and heavy. Well worth it for the potential image quality, but I often wish for the smaller lenses of the APS-C world.

[@geraldundone]

Pssht. I shoot everything on my 8x10 camera. #GetOnMyLevel 🤣🤓💪

[@dunnadidit]

Nobody listen to this guy... I've heard that... *dun dun dun * he's crazy!

[@JacReviewsStuff]

How's the iso performance?

[@blankname5612]

@@JacReviewsStuff it's film, it varies

[@abelgreeve3641]

Gerald Undone No lag viewfinder😆😆

[@2gunzfilms425]

I’ll stick with the Blackmagic 4K that gives me better quality than all of my local competitors

[@CJ007UP]

as a non-native english speaker, I wish everyone in the world could speak as well and understandable as you do. Bravo

[@dunnadidit]

Thank you so much!

[@feliperodriguessoaressampa7275]

True!

[@chibisven]

I've had an a6500 for a little bit and have been really impressed with the results I can get. I'm constantly torn between going to the a7iii (which I drool over often) and just going nuts and fully kitting out my aps-c camera. I've already put some money into glass and lights because I really love video and want to get quality results and I feel like pound for pound the a7iii offers some killer features for me... but so far I've gotten more value out of taking the price difference and investing it in more prime lenses and lights... so... por que no los dos?

[@dunnadidit]

I remember being in your situation. I’m definitely not upset about having the a7iii now, but I could have survived without

[@Sara-Hues]

Yes, for sure - plus for me, the battery life and overheating time for the AK6500 when doing video is not great. The A7iii was such an improvement, rarely needing another battery or having to cut a take / lose a take due to overheating.

[@photographers.life.photos]

I got an A7R 2 (42 mp) for less than a grand. Has plenty of features if you shoot manual. I would defs go for that camera

[@ENSOTAVES]

Good points, I have both and I can definitively tell the difference and I use them accordingly.

[@Styxz03]

I've been thinking of "upgrading" my a6300 -> a6600 or a7iii, but this just made me realize that my trusty ol' a6300 is still way more than enough.

[@dreamkiller189]

Marko Isip just sold my a6300 and then saw this 😅

[@sandro6691]

@@dreamkiller189 Just sold my 6500 and saw this haha

[@ΓιώργοςΚαλλίγερος-ι5ω]

I choose APS-C for proffesional corporate filmmaking and I have great results. With a good lighting setup and some prime lenses everything is fine. Also I don't have to use large and heavy gimbals . Everything is lighter, cheaper and more compact. The only thing I missing is the wide prespective of the full frame when shooting hotels and the two card slots.

[@dunnadidit]

Absolutely!

[@elvinlawcc]

You have the money you get all of them! At the end they are just the tools that help us to make money. They is no perfect camera. It depends on what type of task we need to do! Different tools have different functions! Most of the time when I am not doing clients work I just shoot with my iPhones. That way I can just post the videos or photos on the social media instantly and share with my friends.

[@dunnadidit]

Great points for sure!

[@richardpcrowe]

Different tools have different functions! If you judge the intelligence of dogs by their ability to climb trees, all dogs would seem stupid...

[@ChrisParayno]

For most, crop sensor is fine. Newer faster lenses and cheaper costs overall is enough to stay crop. Fuji X-mount system is a great example of a pro series that can go toe to toe with the full frame guys with the right glass combo and color science!

[@dunnadidit]

Totally!

[@AlejandroPirchi]

I just bought the Sony A7C for $1100 on sale in my country, to replace my "old" A6300, literally the best of both worlds.

[@dunnadidit]

Wow! That’s a killer deal!

[@AlejandroPirchi]

@@dunnadidit It was a weird situation, I´ll try to cut it short, in Argentina there are two values for the dollar, the official one is lower than the black market one, Sony sells its cameras at the same price as in the US, 1800 dollars for the A7C but you pay in Pesos, our local currency, at the official exchange rate you pay 170.000 pesos but if you sell your dollar bills in the black market to get 170.000 pesos you only need to sell 1.100 dollars so you effectively pay US$1.1100 for the A7C or US$2.200 for the A7SIII or US$2.000 for the A7RIV. The only dissadvantage is that the price of our services are way lower than in first world countries so it offsets the lower prices of equipment. But if you live in the US or UK and come here with dollars you can build a full kit of E-Mount equipment for about half as much as in the US or Europe

[@misaelhernandez9790]

@@AlejandroPirchi so would a tourist in Argentina also need to sell their dollars to the black market

[@DeputyNordburg]

As a sports shoot, I love to have FF and crop cameras with me at the same time. The versatility is fantastic.

[@ashishtiwari1912]

I am a photographer. I use a6000 with sigma 56mm f1. 4 for portrait work. Works great. I have compared it with pictures on full frame. To be honest the image quality difference is not worth upgrading to a full frame. I spent money on buying the right lens and proper lighting equipment and it works great. If light is not great, you aren't going to produce decent results whether it is full frame or aps-c. Greetings from India

[@Hellosirrrr]

Have you ever tried ligma blz fs?

[@AlTheEngineer]

Yeah, I lusted after the Sony Full Frame for a while, but after I demoed an A6400 in the store, I bought it and never looked back. It's basically 90% of what the bigger more expensive full-frame cameras can offer (for me), and I needed it for travel, throwing it in my backpack with a couple of lenses is SMALLER and lighter than my old Nikon DSLR without any lenses, haha! Crazy! Love the formfactor, and I wish they would even make a smaller camera.

[@dunnadidit]

Awesome!!

[@llStixxll]

Got me second guessing if I really need this A7iii or should I switch to the A6500. Probably a bit over kill, as a hobbyist, to shoot with a $3k+ setup

[@dunnadidit]

That’s the idea of this video! Just to get people to think about what they really need!

[@Shakiahjprod]

Why the 6500? Get the 6600 for that 5 axis better af, and MUCH better battery. Or get 6400 for same thing except battery and axis stabilizer. (Honestly the stabilization isn't noticeable)

[@llStixxll]

​@@Shakiahjprod they both have stabilization but wasn't aware the battery life was that big of a difference. I'll look into that!

[@MrBenthefirst]

depends on how much you use it as a hobbyist....I just bought an a7iii to replace my last 3500$ set up that I bought 7 years ago. I did the math and found out that each photo cost me 0.7 cents per photo that I took. I also managed to recoup 500$ with some freelance stuff. If you spend the money....use it as much as you can and also consider using it to help others out.

[@swbsarita]

Bárður Joensen -

[@lordkingston]

Excellent intro... funny, yet insightful.... and the rest of the video was just as good! You really understand the mind of your audience, which makes the video so much relatable and better!

[@GallaghersGrub]

Because of the flippy screen, I still love my a5100 anytime I'm talking to camera. My A7iii is for photography and everything else. Great vid, Dunna!

[@dunnadidit]

Thanks so much!

[@tarinamcandrews3913]

I love my a5100 too

[@professionalpotato4764]

I just wish it didn't overheat. I quite loved it but it always overheated and I couldn't get any work done. Swapped to a Canon 200D which has never overheated once even during long takes in summer.

[@jinmaikeul]

Depends on what your goal is, but I wouldn't recommend APS-C unless you're buying into the Fuji system. Most manufacturers treat their APS-C lines as an afterthought with products primarily geared toward the consumer level. Because of this, all of the best lenses from companies like Sony, Canon, Nikon, etc. are released for their full frame bodies. Even if you get into third party lenses, companies like Sigma still release their best lenses for full frame, too. Fuji, however, doesn't have a full frame line and until their relatively recent push into medium format, APS-C was what they solely focused on so their APS-C lenses are absolutely fantastic. So if image quality is really important to you (your lens is going to be a huge determining factor in image quality), then you probably want to skip APS-C altogether and just buy a lower end (or previous generation) full frame body. If you're pretty sure you're never going to want to leap to full frame, I would argue that Micro-4/3 is a better option than APS-C in most instances. It's even more compact and there are fantastic optics for it. Olympus doesn't make APS-C or full frame cameras so their best lenses are released in Micro-4/3 format and just about every video shooter ought to be familiar with Panasonic's GH-series cameras. With full frame cameras coming down in price (Canon's EOS RP is $1000 brand new as of this writing), it's getting more difficult to rationalize purchasing an APS-C camera in my opinion.

[@dunnadidit]

Great points! Thanks for sharing!

[@stevestruthers6180]

It's not necessarily true that full-frame camera makers offer better lenses. Sony's kit 28-70mm full-frame lens, designed to be used on its A7-series cameras, is actually a fairly mediocre lens. Sony sells that lens in an effort to reduce the financial bite of buying into their full-frame system and thus make it more attractive to people on a budget. I personally predict that APS-C is going to go the way of the dodo bird in the next few years anyway, for several reasons. One is that there are too many cameras on the market now, regardless of format, chasing too few consumer dollars. As a result, there is too much segmentation. Smart phone cameras are becoming more capable, and this is another reason. The improvements in smart phone cameras and segmentation have cut deeply into industry profits. In fact, these two factors alone were enough to cause Olympus to sell its camera division to a third party. Finally, it makes much more sense, both from a marketing standpoint and an economic standpoint, to make one type of camera and one type of lens system - namely, full-frame. What the camera makers need to do is spend more money on R & D to find out how to make full-frame cameras and lenses cheaper and thus more affordable, without giving up quality. The consumer will also benefit because buying cameras will become a simple thing again, without a myriad of confusing options. Making a full-frame camera that appeals to people who want simple a point-and-shoot camera shouldn't be that hard. If Pentax could make a nearly full-auto 35mm SLR back in the 1970s and 1980s that sold well, then it shouldn't be difficult for any other manufacturer to do the same.

[@cameraprepper7938]

For Sony you can get a LOT of compact, light weight full frame Lenses that works great on Sony APSC Cameras, so no problems for Sony. Fuji is is too expensive being APSC size !

[@williamg.6283]

Awesome video! I moved to an a7rii from the a6000 for ibis when using my vintage lenses, high mp count for cropping when needed and also to get the full vintage lens experience (aps-c cuts into the awesome swirly bokeh of some of my lenses). It made sense to me because used a7rii prices are incredibly low right now and for what I do, it just out-specs any aps-c camera. Also, I really appreciate having less noisy images in tough lighting conditions. I've been able to take low light shots that would have been impossible handheld on my a6000.

[@dunnadidit]

That’s awesome! I’m glad that upgrade worked well for you!!

[@LucaBono.Studio]

The main reason why I moved to full frame is because of the full HD quality difference. In the a6xxx line full HD, for slow motion, it's pretty unusable for paid jobs. You did a correct and professional jump in quality ;)

[@dunnadidit]

I have been experimenting with 120fps again whereas I pretty much avoided it on my a6500. Haha yup, my upgrade made sense for me... just not for everyone 😉

[@RRTravel]

Bardzo pomocny film w którym wiele objaśniłeś w prostych słowach. Dla mnie zmiana na FF to ogromny wydatek, zwłaszcza, że mam sporo obiektywów do APS-C. Jedyne co mi brakuje w mojej s6300 to stabilizacja, no i może jeszcze obracany ekran. Moja A6300 jest w klatce SmallRig która go powiększa, daje możliwość montażu akcesoriów i chroni przed uderzeniami. Nie zarabiam na filmach i zdjęciach więc zostaję z APS-C. Dzięki wielkie :)

[@smashexentertainment676]

The only reason I'll be getting a FF is to have the exact focal length of my lenses as it is. APS-C sometimes doesn't feel wide enough. But I'll still keep all my APS-C cameras, because why not)

[@dunnadidit]

I hear you! I’ve noticed a big difference in how I shoot now that I can go super wide to 16mm full frame. I never used to like that look but its growing on me for certain things

[@bradley8418]

Exact focal length?? Focal length is focal length. It doesn’t change just because you put a different size sensor behind it. Only the perceived focal length changes due to cropping or expanding. You don’t get an exact focal length just because you put a 35mm sensor behind it.

[@dunnadidit]

This is true, but it’s pretty obvious what they were talking about.

[@floatingrabbit3556]

As someone who started with the 5d mkiii and now shoots on the sony6300, I can say that I am glad I made the move. apsc iso technology has gotten so good it is almost impossible to see any difference these days for most projects unless for some ungodly reason you are just shooting in pure darkness (because you can't afford any lighting) then yeah maybe.

[@dunnadidit]

Thats good to know!! Thanks for sharing!

[@threepe0]

Let's pull this apart; You're trying to save money on full frame, and buy an aps-c, then you say "because you can't afford lighting?" Maybe when you made the switch, low-light performance was comparable, but the A73 for example allows me to shoot in naturally lit environments, and not because I can't afford lighting, I have that kit and it's fantastic, but I don't need it when sitting around a camp fire with my mates, or when I'm in a dimly lit dining room, or other low-light scenario. I have tons of room as far as ISO which has improved a lot in full frame cameras over the last few years, and plenty of speed with large aperture lenses. Compared to my 5D mk4, I'm able to pump the ISO much farther up without getting into noise territory. There isn't an APS-C camera that can come close to performing as well in these environments, and I have tried a few. There's a reason M43 is dying out, and things seem to be consolidating to full frame; Smaller parts are easier to come by, people are realizing that in order to make up for compromises with small sensors you need bigger glass, and the price difference shrinks. People are getting better and better results with phones, so there are fewer new hobbyists than there used to be, and professionals are getting great results with even older gear, while trying to feel out where this whole market is going.

[@dunnadidit]

Well put ThreepE0! I always found, when I shot apsc exclusively from the sony a6500 and a6400, that I was covered really well with their low light performance in about 85-90% of the situations I was in. But now with the A7ii that number has gone up to 95-99% of the situations I'm in. Its definitely better but I'm still pretty impressed with the low light capabilities of the aps-c series. ALL THAT SAID... the stuff I was shooting was for youtube, not client work. So my level of acceptable quality was lower than what I would allow for a paid job for sure.

[@richardpcrowe]

I shoot with both APSC (A6600) and full-frame (A7iii) and agree with everything you mentioned. PSC is certainly good enough for the vast majority of uses and users. However, the A7iii has some advantages. One advantage is that I like the way that I can adjust shutter speed, f/stop and exposure compensation with the dials physically located around the shutter button.

[@suboptimaley]

I'm super satisfied with my APS-C, don't feel like I'm missing anything YET :) What you said about the auto focus is interesting though. It would be amazing if you could do a video about focus comparison, best focus settings, differences with photo/video, etc!

[@dunnadidit]

Someone in the comments here mentioned that it might have to do with the smaller elements in the lenses. Less to move equals quicker focus maybe?

[@calvinatdrifterstudio8438]

Since I'm not a professional, I use apsc to get nice portraits with a fun 50mm lense. I have a x100t for street photography, daily life photography. For wide stuff I just use my phone, which has 60mp and a great wide angle.

[@FranciscoAlmeida991]

Just bought the A6600 with the all around lense 18-105mm G f4 and im super happy with this setup!! Great results

[@dunnadidit]

YAAAASSSSS! Did you get the a6600 already? It's not supposed to ship yet?

[@paolojimenez1853]

I have the A6000 with the 18-105mm G f4. Best kit ever! Everytime I think about going full frame can't find a reason why, to switch, this camera and lens gives me awesome results and when traveling it's the only thing I need. Plus an extra battery.

[@dunnadidit]

Nice!

[@KardosoMedia]

Great video buddy! Lots of great valid points. Sony’s APS-C are so good you definitely can’t go wrong especially at their price point.

[@dunnadidit]

Thanks! Yeah I think a lot of people see full frame as the only option because its so much more easily accessible now but I still reach for my aps-c a lot even having a full frame camera!

[@sarahjohnston6509]

just bought a Sony alpha 6000 plus a Sigma 30mm:) I feel good about my decision!

[@CausallyExplained]

Full Frame any day, seen so many comparisons and just love the way full frame looks and low light performance is phenomenal!

[@dunnadidit]

Nice! It does have a nice look!

[@miikkakervinen]

It does! I had x-t2 for some time, and switched BACK to a7ii because the photos does look better. I also do video and the 4k is kinda heavy to proces on my macbook so sony’s top quality 1080p is good enough for me

[@aleksejbarcelona6191]

keketin x-t3 way better than Sony a7 ||| ... in photos and videos

[@miikkakervinen]

Aleksej Barcelona Allright? I was talking about x-t2 and a7ii, but i do think the x-t2 is better than a7ii if you look specs, exept lowlight performance. But a7ii is also like 2 years older.

[@AfricanSunProductions]

Thanks man, clear and detailed video. I'm thinking about buying a new camera. Doing some research first...

[@Dakota0319]

I’m a filmmaker and I just upgraded to full frame. Tbh, it’s the best decision I’ve made. It can do aps-c mode as well so you get the best of both worlds. Way better in low light as well because there’s more room to make bigger pixels.

[@mirrorlessny]

true don't even need to be a pro to see the difference, congrads, aps-c mode is great

[@IanHobday]

I am upgrading, from Nikon full frame to Sony APS-C. The A6600 combined with the Sigma f1.4 "trinity" make the best bang-for-buck setup on the market today. Add Sony's 10-18 and/or the Sony 70-350 if you have needs in those areas. Compact, lightweight, relatively affordable, and incredibly capable.

[@dunnadidit]

Was bam thank you ma’am! Love it!

[@IanHobday]

@@dunnadidit Great video from Peter McKinnon that's related to this topic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGmvgKKHrbicbq8

[@mirrorlessny]

yea Sigma/a6600 combo is powerful, 1.4 Sigma lenses were an eye opener for me with that magical blur 😵

[@JulezDeJesus]

I just pre-ordered the a6600 camera this weekend. Can't wait for it to get here. 😬

[@dunnadidit]

I'm probably going to pre-order mine this week!

[@Glen.Danielsen]

Julez DeJesus Si hermano Julez, I am hot on the a6600’s great eye-detect auto focus!

[@campa_t]

dream cam😖

[@Glen.Danielsen]

Not sure, but Sony added a new advanced feature for street photography: the marvelous autofocus with AND (Auto Nipple Detect). 🤭 lol

[@dunnadidit]

No recording limit on the a6600

[@Vikingdescendent]

I chose the Fuji X T3 over the Sony A7 3. It's a camera for everyone , the features, lenses and quality will amaze you. Just get OIS Fuji lenses. If you shot weddings, the Sony A7 series is a good choice.

[@dunnadidit]

The XT-3 is a perfect example of a camera that outperforms a lot of full frame cameras. Like all cameras, it has its pros/cons, but it’s really great overall.

[@metamurph]

@@dunnadidit the think Fuji is missing for me is IBIS. I rented a EM-1x for a trip to europe, love the size (even though I have big hands), I basically carried it in my hands all day. I have never been the most stable shooter going back to when I was young shooting film. But bottom line on your vid. Know your real "needs" and what fits those.

[@dunnadidit]

Exactly!

[@monkeyplayer1]

I like how you explain that full frame is more useful in certain situations but that most people don’t need it unless doing weddings or more low light projects

[@dunnadidit]

Thanks! I appreciate that you watched the whole video to catch that! Many people see the title and get upset lol.

[@monkeyplayer1]

Dunna Did It well I was confused about the title because full frame has its place but you did a good job with it so cheers!

[@LorenzoCalgaryRealtor]

Aka if you want to spend your money wisely, and make money in the future with your initial investment, GET a FULLFrame.

[@emperorkhan9941]

Hey D.D.I. I´m glad KZbin recommended your upload, was very-very close to buy a full frame until i saw this. Compared and the APS-C seams like a more reasonable buy. Thank for the information, you just saved me a bunch of money, and space in my bag.

[@dunnadidit]

Glad the video was helpful!

[@emperorkhan9941]

It was more than just helpful, i was about to buy the A7III or the A7RIII. You saved me 3 times the money. Thank you!

[@ken6260]

I use a 6400 and I love this cam, but in the future I will buy as a "second" camera the a7 III or the IV. Because of the rolling shutter effect in videos. 🤷🏻‍♂️ One good reason, I can use all of my full frame lens on booth cameras. 👍🏻

[@dunnadidit]

UGGGHHHH I hate the rolling shutter on the sony apsc cameras... it is the bane of my existence.

[@jesperolsen4951]

Great video - nice to see someone not saying fullframe is a must! 👍

[@dunnadidit]

Thanks! Definitely not a must... more like a nice option if you can lol.

[@pluggednickels]

If a consumer doesn't know why to buy a Full Frame then yes you are correct they should just buy a APS-C

[@DeLoEnterprises]

Debating on A6600 OR A7C for 4k Automotive KZbin videos, What's your pick? Thanks

[@dunnadidit]

Ooh that’s tough. Gotta go A7c though. That camera definitely makes this video a little harder to stand by haha

[@TerraThink]

The Canon EOS RP is a great choice too. A full frame camera with strong autofocus and a flippy screen for $999. Only a 100 dollars more expensive than the mentioned Sony A6400 (APS-C sensor). The EOS RP includes an adapter so you can use any good old Canon lens to start with or go for the new amazing RF lenses (the 35mm f1.8 is both relatively affordable and amazing).

[@dunnadidit]

Great points! The RP looks cool!

[@ef3345]

For it's between the a6400 and the eos to. They're both basically the same price now. I'd be using it for narrative cinema style filming. Which do you think is best. I'm new to this and would be having to buy lenses as well.

[@danieldougan269]

I shoot Micro Four Thirds, and it's good enough most of the time. Plus, the crop factor helps me get closer to subjects that are far away, like wildlife. But I could certainly use an extra stop or two of ISO performance because I have to use fast shutter speeds to capture action.

[@dunnadidit]

It’s all give and take. Both ways. That’s why I wanted to make this video! Too many people trying to convince people full frame is the ONLY way.

[@ananyaadave1306]

aaahhh thanks for this video! just the validation i needed to go for APS-C.

[@bloodmoney88]

Love my 6400... with my 16mm sigma, & sony 90mm macro G lens. Plus a few others, but these 2 lenses rarely leave my camera bag. The images are... exquisite. Cheaper, all I need as a hobbyist. Happy to stop buying and just use this rig. Because i bought the 6400 i could afford the 90 macro as my first lens for it, so Glad I bought the FE 90mm... works great on the 6400, when I use the 90 6400 combo, my description is that the images I capture are what I'll easily call my money shots.

[@dunnadidit]

That’s awesome

[@aaronchyea]

this was so timely! APS vs APS-C is the current debate thats been going on in my head the last 2 weeks hahah APS-C does seem like it provides more than enough value especially considering the wider range of lens options. Thank you!!

[@dunnadidit]

That’s great to hear Aaron! Glad you found the video helpful!

[@mkphotofilm]

Great video, but honestly, what camera did you use to shoot this video?

[@mirrorlessny]

imagine if right-clicking the video & selecting "stats for nerds" also showed camera & lenses used 😁

[@androidstud]

Great intro. Hilarious 😂 I have the A6300. Looking to upgrade to a6400 soon... Black Friday deal let's gooooo

[@dunnadidit]

I'm crossing my fingers for you! Sony isn't known for having crazy deals but maybe this is the year!

[@TheArtist441]

Also, if more control over dof for the same composition or frame is what you want, full frame gives your more control. 1.4f on a full frame is 1.4x1.5=2.1f on aps-c. If you want the 1.2f effect on aps-c, it will be hard finding a 0,9f lens!

[@dunnadidit]

Yep! That’s true! I rarely find myself wanting anything that shallow but that’s subjective!

[@hejakma4682]

Mitakon 35 0.95 is awesome.

[@acrowsnestview6621]

This video is exactly what I needed! who wants to buy my A7iii?

[@dunnadidit]

Lol nice

[@georgiandzans9519]

I want

[@chopstickthrower930]

I'm in the market for one of your selling!

[@有时真忍不住笑]

Thank you for your good comments. I have both full frame and APSC Sony cameras. I only use full frame machine only in special occasions. 90% of my picture were taken in APSC one. Almost same perfect results in normal light conditions. In low light condition, full frame definitely wins.

[@dunnadidit]

Nice! Thanks for sharing!

[@patroldsk]

I'm here to validate my choice of buying the A7III this month. 😅I used the A6400 for 2 years now and I really love this camera for the size and weight as well as the AF tracking capabilities. When I bought the A7III it was like "it's cool but...this is big and heavy, and the AF doesn't work so well...". So it isn't really about the hardware, rather the needs and I bought A7III because I want to go pro with my photography, but still, I'm not 100% percent sure if it was a good choice. Definately though, your arguments are 100% on point and I think I will keep the APS-C in my bag as it is super handy, but probably I will switch soon to A6600 for the bigger grip, Z-batteries (that are compatible with the ones in A7III), more custom buttos, IBIS and some other stuff that makes this body a bit more "pro" over A6400. :) For all the newbies in business - buy APS-C as your first body! Cheers dude!

[@EveshkaGhost]

I like and have both for different reasons, but it takes time using them to realize there are far more factors to bear in mind. for example, vintage lenses can cost peanuts - and they're all full frame (for 35mm cameras). Stuff like the HELIOS and the beautiful spiral effect will only really come out in it's full glory on a full frame, and the lens can be picked up in car boot sales on old cameras for a tenner. Also, crop sensor cameras require a wider focal length than what is desired in order to achieve the look you want. Wider is just never cheap. That 30mm vintage lens you got for 20 quid on ebay... suddenly becomes like a 45 or so. So in a way - for videography at least... it costs more. I like the idea of certain micro four thirds cameras but with the 2x crop factor... getting a lens as wide as my 14mm full frame samyang is gonna be well... 7mm I guess. crikey!

[@dunnadidit]

Great points!!

[@julianrohloff2811]

I'm actually using an Olympus MFT and a Sony full frame, and I'm perfectly happy with both :) depends on situation where I pick which, like portrait where I drive with my car to the location? Let's go Sony!

[@dunnadidit]

Nice! That’s awesome!

[@NetGawker]

It's interesting to hear someone refer to the a7 as a large camera in comparison to the a6 when it was the a7 just a few years ago that was the goto option over bulky dslr bodies. Looking at the two cameras side by side, they're close in size.

[@dunnadidit]

The a7 series is still not big compared to dslr’s for sure, but as someone who just moved to full frame from the smaller apsc bodies, it actually is a bigger difference than you’d think. Things like long shoot days and fitting it in camera bags. I had to completely reorganize my bags to accommodate the extra size, both height and width. Personally I love that they’re bigger but it’s not for everyone. I’ve actually had a good amount of comments since posting this video of people saying they got rid of their a7 series in favor of the a6 series because of the size!

[@briant4078]

Great vid. Made the point very well. I started with film in the mid. seventies but due to things did not do much at the end of the century. Towards the end of 2006 the prospect of a longtime investment paying up, got me thinking about a digital camera. I bought several magazines, what is APS-C. I thought. I had used Canon from 1980 (A1 and T90) and looked at the new 400D, boy it was small. After a few months I bought a 5D, the lusted after camera back then. My leaning towards birds and other wildlife lead to me adding an APS-C body for the extra reach with my Canon 500 plus 1.4 extender. I use whatever is right for the time and lighting.

[@heastin92532]

I really appreciate this video. I was in BestBuy today, ready to pull the trigger on the Full Frame. I don't find myself shooting a lot in low lit situations, but I do like having the option. The APS series definitely does better in low light than my smartphone, and I do like the size of the camera or more specifically the weight. It's easier to carry in my bag in comparison to a full-frame and lastly the price. The price for lenses and bodies are definitely more. I keep thinking that if I don't take the plunge into full-frame I never will, but I still haven't found a tipping point reason yet to make the switch. I'm still very torn.

[@mr.j5526]

Tamaron allows you to go FF because their "Holy Trinity" is a third of the price Sony's trinity is.

[@Decodingfashion_]

I am still confused about being in the full frame domain and spend extra on everything. Im reconsidering APSC.

[@joshua4578]

I am happy with my a6500 atm. I was especially happy with it while I was hiking 11.5 miles in Canyonlands NP Needles District capturing some banger shots! Especially happy I didn't have to carry a FF and glass to get the same photo!

[@dunnadidit]

No doubt! My bag has gotten a lot heavier recently.

[@mastrorj68]

I started with an a6500 they're great cameras and then eventually I moved to full frame 6500s a great start!

[@neilchoh296]

Best advice I have ever come across. I was shooting Nikon cameras. But now I own a RX100iii and am looking to sell all my Nikon gear and get an A7iii. Cheaper than the competition and more lens choices. Keep dishing out good advice.

[@dunnadidit]

Thanks so much! Glad you're enjoying your system!

[@dunnadidit]

Honestly Jacob, its tough to tell you without being able to have a good chat, but what I always suggest is going into a camera store and holding all the new options to see what feels best in your hand first. What inspires you to shoot. That will definitely help. All of the companies make great cameras, and they all have pros/cons.

[@nostruscrovus9085]

I came from old Pentax K-5 Camera, I picked A7ii because it has a good price, around $1000 for the body + 50mm lens which are enough for me.

[@kobemanzo3846]

Production quality on these videos is unreal! Keep up the killer content🤞🏻

[@dunnadidit]

Thanks!

[@movakalin5333]

If you don’t make a living with photography apsc is good enough and you safe money. Family, friends, landscape, city trips, can all be done. I would go with a6600.

[@dunnadidit]

Agreed!

[@RJPhotographics]

Is APSC good enough for a4 print publishing and digital work?

[@nikola2798]

@@RJPhotographicsyes

[@losshados5506]

Unpopular opinion: bigger cameras gives you more credibility when shooting. Its basic human behaviour. For example, a well fitted suit gives you more credibility than t shirt and jeans .Unless you have a good portfolio, when client see you with a point and shoot, you lose credibility . On that subject, it is undeniable that your raw skills are the most important factors.

[@dunnadidit]

I hear you, its so funny because cameras are getting smaller and smaller. So if you want to "appear" professional, you gotta create a gigantic rig around your tiny camera lol.

[@socksonfeet8125]

Yep I was shooting with an old 50D with big bulky lens the other day and I got more attention from bystanders than the guy with a small sony a camera 😆😆, even though his camera was way newer and better 😆😆

[@ceciliakatz]

Great video! I was about to buy a A7 III. One question, I do beauty videos, and beauty pictures, which camera would you recommend? I would really appreciate your opinion. Thanks a lot

[@thevwguy06]

Recently bought the Sony a6400 with 18-135 glass and the lack of IBIS is ignorable. Low light performance is soo good and the insane auto focus is just amazing. One thing that hits me is the *rolling shutter* -,- . Well you missed out that point in this video ;) Nice points to choose aps-c though . Super happy with the purchase

[@dunnadidit]

Very true! The rolling shutter is better in the a7 lineup for sure. Good point!

[@HolidayRoeun]

Tbh I’ve been thinking of upgrading to a 7iii for some time now for its low light capabilities, but I’ve done multiple shoots with the A6300 in low light (not to mention a fast lens) i’m impressed and happy that I have the Camera, but again a camera is a tool. It’s how you use it that will determine it’s greatness.

[@dunnadidit]

Yeah totally! It’s a solid camera. Unless you really need it, the upgrade might not make sense.

[@sagardigitallab]

Now-a-days, Full Frame turns more and more into a Status symble than being actually needed by the photographer.

[@dunnadidit]

That was kind of the thought I had going into this video. Full frame is great, but I think too many people think they need it when they don't.

[@evawettergren7492]

This is exactly what I have been thinking about. I have the a6300 and use it as a hobbyist camera mostly, but my primary goal for even getting in to photography is (crazy fangirl alert!) because I wanted better pictures when going to concerts. I have brought it for one concert so far, but had not yet learned about the vital importance of a fast lens at that time, so it wasn't what I had hoped. Now I have invested in a much faster prime lens, f1.8 and hopefully it will work better. But I have been eyeballing the a7III... It will be a complete overkill with everything else I use my a6300 for (I LOVE it being small and light) but I worry I might get dissappointed again if the a6300 doesn't suceed at the next concert. (I can take a year to think about it though, since the concert has been postponed for next year.)

[@gbarb18]

I have both, love both, and have the same feelings every day...

[@dunnadidit]

Haha me too Greg... me too.

[@MattLavergne4]

This was such an amazing intro and I'll take more Disney+ jokes all day long 😂😂👏👏 (the video was great too and really informative)

[@dunnadidit]

Haha glad you enjoyed that! It was fun to make! Cheers!

[@DarkPa1adin]

Yes his intro is well done!

[@felixbpj]

I went over to Sony a couple of month’s ago after using Nikon for several years. Very easy transition between the two. The menu on Sony cameras is very easy to understand, and to navigate through. I think people should by a used A7, if they want to buy a Sony camera as their first camera experience. You can buy cheaper crop lenses and use the crop mode. And later on if they prefer to step it up a notch, they can buy full frame lenses. But that’s just my way of looking at it.

[@dunnadidit]

Nice! Thanks for your input !

[@davewallace9296]

I use both he A7RIII and A6600. I pick the body that fits the task at hand best. As already said the versatility is fantastic!

[@actoraa]

I just bought an a7III to replace my RX1R and Canon DSLR. The Amazon deal for $1,800 with 15% back was too good to pass...

[@dunnadidit]

That’s a great deal! Nice work! I love my a7iii too!

[@Jimmyageek]

Dude MFT is Good Enough!

[@dunnadidit]

There are some fantastic M4/3 options out there!

[@monicamartini264]

This is the first video I ever from you and I love it! Knowleadgable AND personality? Subbed!

[@dunnadidit]

Aww thanks Monica!

[@Eikenhorst]

You can also just go into aps-c mode on your full frame if you need the 1.5x additional reach. Yes, it is basically just a 'digital zoom' as it only uses the center portion of the full frame sensor, but you get the exact same effect as screwing a full frame lens on an aps-c body. And with an A7RIV the aps-c mode still gives you more MP than the A6600 sensor has and the ability to not zoom in if you don't want to: for example when this lion you were shooting is now walking towards you and you want to zoom out without changing lenses. By the way: I shoot with an aps-c D500 and it is great. One advantage of aps-c that is not mentioned here: less depth of field. Landscape photographers want to have the whole scene in focus and with aps-c you get less DoF without having to close the aperture and introducing defraction.

[@roverrichu]

For the past 2 days, I was with the same part as the intro, lol 😂. Thank you for the clear cut explanation on which camera should I get. I do vlogs, cooking and street photography(before lock down) using my mobile. This really helped me. Stay blessed!!

[@Starclassic87]

OMG!! 😱 my life summed up in the first 2 min of this video was accurate!!!😒😂 which is probably why I own both of these cameras 😂😂😂😂

[@dunnadidit]

Haha 😂

[@jeremyboesmans]

And that's the reason I don't own any of these two cameras yet, can't choose btw them...

[@louiscyphre2555]

@@jeremyboesmans same

[@msemilytravels2458]

“More room to carry around snacks” lol literally me 😂😂

[@dunnadidit]

Haha we’re not alone

[@ChrisJones-rd4wb]

vs me who carrys around like 5lbs of camera, flash, battery extension, and large redring 50mm with a hood - because it makes me feel kooler.

[@Amocles]

can you recommend some good, photography snacks?

[@Amocles]

@@ChrisJones-rd4wb Kooler with a k.

[@ChrisJones-rd4wb]

@@Amocles "oh man that guy has 10 lbs in camera gear around his neck, he must be a professional"

[@Keyloggs1]

i just gave thumbs up for the intro. hilarious!

[@dunnadidit]

Haha thanks!!

[@antfirmin]

You hit the nail on the head with the comment about comparing photos. I doubt anyone can tell with a printed photo whether it was shot with apps-c or full frame. Just my 2p worth.

[@dunnadidit]

Agreed

[@thechosensloth1452]

Awesome video, just found your channel trough this video and instantly subscribed. Finally someone not just doing it for likes and views but rather deliver actual content and facts/opinions on exactly the questions people are asking. Keep it up!

[@dunnadidit]

Thanks so much!!

[@idrisie6720]

Also me : buying aps-c coz i cant afford full frame lens

[@Tekillyah]

From Canon 6D to Sony A6400.... Never regretted it. #sonynotsorry :)

[@dunnadidit]

LOVE IT!

[@watchmecambodia]

2:58 Dunna! I always love watching your videos and I am sure this video will be the video that a lot of people want and looking for..

[@dunnadidit]

Haha, glad you like my scroll face lol. Yeah hopefully lots of people want to see it!

[@watchmecambodia]

@@dunnadidit Yes sure it will help a lot of people to make a better decision.

[@TechSpaceCowboy]

Solid info. I feel like I made the right decision with my 6400

[@dunnadidit]

Great choice!