DON'T BUY A FULL FRAME CAMERA! Sony APS-C vs. Full Frame.

[@dunnadidit]

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[@marcus3d]

The FF isn't really better at low light in itself, but rather makes it easier to make equally bright lenses. For example, on FF an f/1.8 would be like an f/1.2 on APS-C, and it's easier to make good f/1.8 optics than good f/1.2 optics.

[@jonia368]

Dunna Did It which lenses do you use on your a6400?

[@threepe0]

Marcus Sundman full frame sensors are indeed better performing in low light given an aperture size.

[@dunnadidit]

Jonas - I use the sigma trio (16,30,56, 18-105 f4) and then my FF lenses too... Tamron 17-28, Tamron 28-75, and a couple others as well.

[@marcus3d]

@@threepe0 Nope, not aperture. Given an F-number, yes, but not given an equivalent lens (which coincidentally has a similar aperture).

[@nrmpt9903]

Every photographer: You don't need full frame, it's you, not the camera. Every photographer: Has a full frame.

[@Remer714]

It's just a bogus claim that the technology does not influence your images greatly. You've got a much greater keeper range with better equipment. Sure, a camera for $100 might produce good images but only in controlled settings or with many many more that are deleted right after the scene was photographed. It's comparative to the claim that "Depression can be cured by happy thoughts". Happy thoughts (i.e. your skill) helps a lot but sometimes you just need therapy/medication and that's the reason holding you back. Simple as that.

[@azzifyy5988]

Full frame has its benefits just like APS-C has it's benefits, it's down to the users specific needs as to whether they need full frame or not, full frame would be better if you're a wedding photographer or portrait photographer

[@itsvaren1054]

@@Remer714 yes and no, its meant that you need to use ur camera to the max before upgrading

[@Spiderwithweb]

Also, every pro and sport camera mostly is a full frame (Sony's single digit A7 - A9, Canon 1D, Nikon D5, and so on)

[@jimmyhinAK]

Right tool right job still believe that to be true. Sometimes the tool is micro four thirds, apsc, full frame, medium format range finder whatever I think you get the point. There are professional photographers who shoot with all of these formats and the format they use works for them. I own apsc micro four thirds full frame and a point and shoot. I am not a business photographer who sells their work so I am the client and I use what I want and I do use them all . If I chose to make photography a business I know some of my gear is not durable enough for constant use such as my thrift store tripod I payed $5 for or my cheap walmart flash.

[@akereleobaloluwa551]

I hope you're doing well. I've been exploring the idea of upgrading my current camera, the NIKON D5300. I'm quite passionate about portrait photography and recently started experimenting with videography as well. I've heard some positive things about the NIKON Z30, but I wanted to get your advice on what you'd recommend. My primary concerns are having a camera with reliable autofocus and excellent low-light performance. I've got a budget of around $1000 to work with. Any insights or recommendations you could share would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much for your help!

[@Manny_News_Blogs_Tutorials]

I shoot birds close up, as well as sports and models on the ramp faraway from the audience side. So yes, I benefit from crop factor on my Sony A6400, I don't have to carry lenses longer than 300mm.

[@danilmorini8673]

Nice video but to me the biggest reason why to have a full frame is dynamic range, which is way more important than color bits and all those up to date specs

[@dunnadidit]

A great point!

[@ElBoyoElectronico]

Not having enough money helps with the decision...

[@dunnadidit]

It definitely narrows the options for you.

[@rickbiessman6084]

That’s exactly how I did it! =)

[@arifurrahman52]

"All sony aps-c has flip screen" Me: cries in a6000

[@dunnadidit]

Haha I tried to make sure I said it was just the new lineup (a6100, a6400, a6600). I know how you feel with my a6500, that was why I got the 6400 too.

[@arifurrahman52]

I brought it recently as I am new to photography... Not regretting it so far ^_^

[@elijahcarr4137]

The a5100 does have a flip screen and it's almost as good as the a6000

[@dunnadidit]

A6000 is still a great camera, especially to learn on.

[@Moses_Kanneh]

It would not be nearly as bad if Sony upgraded the imaging app. I still use my phone for monitoring myself and composition at home.

[@bigfoad]

You know what... Iam aint buying a camera anymore. Just buying me a saxophone.

[@dunnadidit]

Probably a good call

[@Dangling_Carrot]

I got a scooter

[@bigfoad]

@@Dangling_Carrot wise decision, bro. You got ur cellphone to shoot. Iam also getting better at saxing

[@Mike-vd2qt]

Smartphone camera, and bicycle :-)

[@pavelcerno24]

😂😂🤣

[@MrBenthefirst]

bought the a7iii 5 minutes ago....

[@dunnadidit]

YAY! You'll love it I'm sure! I'm not saying it's bad by any means... I love mine. Its just overkill for a lot of people, but sometimes overkill is fun 😉

[@officialcentrificproductio7594]

@@dunnadidit overkill? Lmao

[@dunnadidit]

OfficialCentrificProductions Germany - yup. Overkill... it means “more than what was needed” and for a lot of people, full frame and all the wonderful glory and power of the a7iii is probably overkill. Most people could do with their phone, or a point and shoot or if they really want interchangeable lenses then apsc would work.

[@officialcentrificproductio7594]

And yeah I'm already aware that apsc is better for vlogging and travel cause its "more handy and small" but there are like people who just buy this cam for vlogging or other small things that could be handled by a apsc camera and I'm like "weird flex bro"

[@demacrow6504]

OfficialCentrificProductions Germany Well full frame could be better for vloging more weight is good to warm up your muscle and no crop on full frame helps get wider lenses.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

tx for this, been really thinking I need the a7iii for my studio but honestly it'd be better for my night-time stuff at events. Now talk me out of buying a Black Magic Pocket Cinema 6K please...

[@dunnadidit]

Umm... autofocus? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

@@dunnadidit I shoot in manual already since a few times my a6500 kept trying to pull focus from my background

[@dunnadidit]

I got nothing then. It seems solid lol. I kinda want one too.

[@saifalnaqbi2819]

@Derpimuss easy. Sell the products

[@thetechrealist]

@Derpimuss Do you ever sell anything you buy? Or even have money saved up for spending? Maybe you got medical bills or something but it could also be paying way more in rent.

[@geraldundone]

Pssht. I shoot everything on my 8x10 camera. #GetOnMyLevel 🤣🤓💪

[@dunnadidit]

Nobody listen to this guy... I've heard that... *dun dun dun * he's crazy!

[@JacReviewsStuff]

How's the iso performance?

[@blankname5612]

@@JacReviewsStuff it's film, it varies

[@abelgreeve3641]

Gerald Undone No lag viewfinder😆😆

[@2gunzfilms425]

I’ll stick with the Blackmagic 4K that gives me better quality than all of my local competitors

[@denism131]

Agreed, I guess another reason for full frame is the dynamic range. In theory the ful frame sensor should give you a higher range to recover details in blacks and whites / burnt out areas and totally dark areas. But I would be fine with the a6300, if only it had 2 card slots. I want two slots because when doing client work I need that backup for my peace of mind.

[@dunnadidit]

Great point! The difference isn’t huge but it’s there for sure! That two card slots gets a lot of people I think.

[@marc_likes_marketing]

100% about the dual card slots.

[@cameraprepper7938]

Yes full frame gives you significant better dynamic range.

[@losshados5506]

Unpopular opinion: bigger cameras gives you more credibility when shooting. Its basic human behaviour. For example, a well fitted suit gives you more credibility than t shirt and jeans .Unless you have a good portfolio, when client see you with a point and shoot, you lose credibility . On that subject, it is undeniable that your raw skills are the most important factors.

[@dunnadidit]

I hear you, its so funny because cameras are getting smaller and smaller. So if you want to "appear" professional, you gotta create a gigantic rig around your tiny camera lol.

[@socksonfeet8125]

Yep I was shooting with an old 50D with big bulky lens the other day and I got more attention from bystanders than the guy with a small sony a camera 😆😆, even though his camera was way newer and better 😆😆

[@haxacodex3784]

Fact is no one but other photographers care about your gear..you can get paid clients on a full frame..or a point and shoot...if it's for work..people just want it done to their request..if you're doing it for art..agian no one cares...so always get the one you think is cool..if you like it..you'll like using it..and thats all that matters...because like everything..its just manufactures making you think new stuff is a need...when you can be a pro photographer with a camera from 2010

[@dunnadidit]

Well put Piper!!

[@boltmann]

Best comment!

[@dhrubajyotisheet2980]

Your statement just convince to buy an APS-C and saved my money to buy a prime lense along with it. Thanks from India Bro

[@snootyfilms8617]

I don't now why there's this gear fetishisation in photography. No one insists you need a certain instrument to make beautiful music or a certain pigment to produce a beautiful painting. Full frame may make it easier to produce professional results but that's not to say you can't with crop sensors, it depends on what you're going for and the type of photography you're doing. This obsession with the tech distracts from the art of it, and I can refute the claim you can't work professionally with crop-sensors as I know a number of folks in the community working professionally that work exclusively with the format.

[@jimi272]

Snooty Films ah ah ahhhh you’re not deep enough into the guitar community, I think the electric guitar community is even worse than photography considering gear fetishisation... amps are body’s, guitars are lenses, but all the pedals have no way be compared in photography equipment ( mayyybe gimbals hehe)

[@AsianBlackR3501]

I own Sony Full frame A7iii and Sony A6400.I highly recommend to buy full frame camera.(Unless you do video).If you are trying to save money, buy APS-C camera.

[@dunnadidit]

Thanks for your input.

[@sandro6691]

What if you do video and photo and want something compact? haha

[@bozhidarabozhilova5067]

What do you mean by unless you do a video? :)

[@AsianBlackR3501]

Bozhidara Bozhilova To me, APS-C is more compact, light and easy to carry when doing video work.

[@AsianBlackR3501]

@@sandro6691 Then buy APS-C. New A7siii is best for video but you will have to pay over $3500.

[@quirkworks4076]

Great video, and thanks for making it clear that APS-C is not a "downgrade." I made a very good living shooting APS-C for many years and my clients were always happy (and even now when I shoot both APS-C and FF, my clients cannot tell the difference).

[@explorewithschu]

The high ISO performance is one of the main reasons I upgraded. Many of my clients I film for are music producers, when they have shows. In this type of environment, where I have little to no control over the lighting, the A7iii ability to produce a usable image up to ISO 12800 is worth it to me Definitely miss the price of APSC lenses though

[@dunnadidit]

Yeah I hear that, I shoot a lot of things like that for my business and having full frame has definitely been helpful... I was getting by fine before but my image is cleaner now for sure!

[@marcus3d]

It's more about the lens than the sensor. Slapping a slow lens on FF doesn't make the result less noisy than with a fast lens on APS-C. Just as with focal length and aperture you have to use equivalent ISO. The FF ISO 12800 has APS-C equivalent ISO 5700. One system isn't really better than the other, it's about the availability of equivalent lenses and ISO values. For example, if you use 24mm F/1.8 at ISO 400 on an APS-C you will get the same field of view, depth of field, image noise, and exposure (basically the same image in every way) as 36mm F/2.7 at ISO 900 on a FF.

[@JacReviewsStuff]

Really? Video is usable up until iso 12, 800? Damn... Now my Fuji Xt3 being usable until 6,400 sounds not so good

[@JacReviewsStuff]

@@marcus3d : just to be clear, "slow" means slow autofocus speed? Or small aperture? Like F4?

[@dunnadidit]

Interesting, I've never heard of someone also applying the crop factor to the iso before. I'll have to do some testing with this!

[@drunkestdriver]

Validation for thr A7iii😭✊✊

[@jeremytheoneofdestiny8691]

Do I need full frame? No. Do I *want* full frame? Hell yeah I do.

[@coolerpro2024]

Like fr😂😂😂

[@elvinlawcc]

You have the money you get all of them! At the end they are just the tools that help us to make money. They is no perfect camera. It depends on what type of task we need to do! Different tools have different functions! Most of the time when I am not doing clients work I just shoot with my iPhones. That way I can just post the videos or photos on the social media instantly and share with my friends.

[@dunnadidit]

Great points for sure!

[@richardpcrowe]

Different tools have different functions! If you judge the intelligence of dogs by their ability to climb trees, all dogs would seem stupid...

[@GeorgeStar]

For most photographers going from APS-C to FF is like going from a car that goes 200mph to one that goes 225 mph because it's "better" even tho you only use your car for shopping.

[@chibisven]

I've had an a6500 for a little bit and have been really impressed with the results I can get. I'm constantly torn between going to the a7iii (which I drool over often) and just going nuts and fully kitting out my aps-c camera. I've already put some money into glass and lights because I really love video and want to get quality results and I feel like pound for pound the a7iii offers some killer features for me... but so far I've gotten more value out of taking the price difference and investing it in more prime lenses and lights... so... por que no los dos?

[@dunnadidit]

I remember being in your situation. I’m definitely not upset about having the a7iii now, but I could have survived without

[@Sara-Hues]

Yes, for sure - plus for me, the battery life and overheating time for the AK6500 when doing video is not great. The A7iii was such an improvement, rarely needing another battery or having to cut a take / lose a take due to overheating.

[@photographers.life.photos]

I got an A7R 2 (42 mp) for less than a grand. Has plenty of features if you shoot manual. I would defs go for that camera

[@TrevoneThompson]

Just stay home and watch Disney+ bro lol

[@randywilliams847]

I have been happy with my APSC gear for years until I walked into a gallery in Prescott Arizona a couple of weeks ago. There were gigantic prints on metal that were as sharp as a tack! Made me feel like a beginner.

[@dunnadidit]

You might still be able to get that with aps-c. Large prints has more to do with megapixel count than sensor size.

[@commenter4799]

People used to make massive prints before the gear we have today existed. 300DPI at the minimum focusing distance of an eye may make sense for a cell phone, but billboards may only be 10 DPI and look fine. People usually don't look at massive prints from a foot away

[@chrisguli2865]

@@dunnadidit and the quality of the glass...and of course using the proper settings.

[@MattLavergne4]

This was such an amazing intro and I'll take more Disney+ jokes all day long 😂😂👏👏 (the video was great too and really informative)

[@dunnadidit]

Haha glad you enjoyed that! It was fun to make! Cheers!

[@DarkPa1adin]

Yes his intro is well done!

[@KardosoMedia]

Great video buddy! Lots of great valid points. Sony’s APS-C are so good you definitely can’t go wrong especially at their price point.

[@dunnadidit]

Thanks! Yeah I think a lot of people see full frame as the only option because its so much more easily accessible now but I still reach for my aps-c a lot even having a full frame camera!

[@AlejandroPirchi]

I just bought the Sony A7C for $1100 on sale in my country, to replace my "old" A6300, literally the best of both worlds.

[@dunnadidit]

Wow! That’s a killer deal!

[@AlejandroPirchi]

@@dunnadidit It was a weird situation, I´ll try to cut it short, in Argentina there are two values for the dollar, the official one is lower than the black market one, Sony sells its cameras at the same price as in the US, 1800 dollars for the A7C but you pay in Pesos, our local currency, at the official exchange rate you pay 170.000 pesos but if you sell your dollar bills in the black market to get 170.000 pesos you only need to sell 1.100 dollars so you effectively pay US$1.1100 for the A7C or US$2.200 for the A7SIII or US$2.000 for the A7RIV. The only dissadvantage is that the price of our services are way lower than in first world countries so it offsets the lower prices of equipment. But if you live in the US or UK and come here with dollars you can build a full kit of E-Mount equipment for about half as much as in the US or Europe

[@misaelhernandez9790]

@@AlejandroPirchi so would a tourist in Argentina also need to sell their dollars to the black market

[@marc_likes_marketing]

i would probably ditch full frame if aps-c had dual SD slots. that's huge for me, if i'm doing a paid shoot. however, for fun, i LOVE my a6100, mainly because my sigma 16mm and 56mm are fantastic and light.

[@runeg286]

Just buy an iPhone instead of an APS-C camera. In many situations the photos and videos look better or equally good. If you want superior image quality buy a full frame and some prime lenses. APS-C is dead.

[@llStixxll]

Got me second guessing if I really need this A7iii or should I switch to the A6500. Probably a bit over kill, as a hobbyist, to shoot with a $3k+ setup

[@dunnadidit]

That’s the idea of this video! Just to get people to think about what they really need!

[@Shakiahjprod]

Why the 6500? Get the 6600 for that 5 axis better af, and MUCH better battery. Or get 6400 for same thing except battery and axis stabilizer. (Honestly the stabilization isn't noticeable)

[@llStixxll]

​@@Shakiahjprod they both have stabilization but wasn't aware the battery life was that big of a difference. I'll look into that!

[@MrBenthefirst]

depends on how much you use it as a hobbyist....I just bought an a7iii to replace my last 3500$ set up that I bought 7 years ago. I did the math and found out that each photo cost me 0.7 cents per photo that I took. I also managed to recoup 500$ with some freelance stuff. If you spend the money....use it as much as you can and also consider using it to help others out.

[@swbsarita]

Bárður Joensen -

[@msemilytravels2458]

“More room to carry around snacks” lol literally me 😂😂

[@dunnadidit]

Haha we’re not alone

[@ChrisJones-rd4wb]

vs me who carrys around like 5lbs of camera, flash, battery extension, and large redring 50mm with a hood - because it makes me feel kooler.

[@Amocles]

can you recommend some good, photography snacks?

[@Amocles]

@@ChrisJones-rd4wb Kooler with a k.

[@ChrisJones-rd4wb]

@@Amocles "oh man that guy has 10 lbs in camera gear around his neck, he must be a professional"

[@SatanSupimpa]

In the case of Sony cameras, one thing I really like about the aps-c system that you can't have with the full frame cameras, is the rangefinder position of the viewfinder. I much appreciate not having my nose against the screen.

[@dunnadidit]

Ah yes!! I don’t really use the viewfinder much but I suppose that would be helpful!

[@billymurphy3]

I would appreciate this more if I didn’t learn on a smartphone/a5100 where you only have a screen 😂 I hate when I smudge my screen with my nose on the A7III though 😂

[@markrobinson891]

SatanSupimpa on my 6400 I’m using the EVF 90+% of the time. Even with a bright screen it’s often hard to see in sunlight. Plus, using a view finder just seems like a “real” camera vs smart phone.

[@gfxmaniac]

You can always use nose to choose focus point.

[@dunnadidit]

Haha!! 👃

[@superelectic45]

I recently bought a super cheap a5100 as a street photo camera that I could slip into a coat pocket and I'm really surprised at how good the quality of the raw shots are. So much so I'm seriously considering going back to APSC and selling my Sony full frame gear. I don't shoot paid work very much now which lessens the pressure to shoot fullframe and there are so many great fast APSC lenses from Sigma and Viltrox. I've found the only advantage fullframe has is in low light and pushing and pulling raw files, dynamic range and color response is comparible.

[@ktj-films]

“Or maybe you just have tiiiiny little hands...” 😂🤣

[@idrisie6720]

Also me : buying aps-c coz i cant afford full frame lens

[@Styxz03]

I've been thinking of "upgrading" my a6300 -> a6600 or a7iii, but this just made me realize that my trusty ol' a6300 is still way more than enough.

[@dreamkiller189]

Marko Isip just sold my a6300 and then saw this 😅

[@sandro6691]

@@dreamkiller189 Just sold my 6500 and saw this haha

[@LennyCooke636]

It's pretty much established in the industry that FF is better than APS-C, so this video is mute...

[@norgerichard]

I love my Sony A6500.. Its light in weight and good video quality.. Lenses are lighter to

[@androidstud]

Great intro. Hilarious 😂 I have the A6300. Looking to upgrade to a6400 soon... Black Friday deal let's gooooo

[@dunnadidit]

I'm crossing my fingers for you! Sony isn't known for having crazy deals but maybe this is the year!

[@mr.j5526]

Tamaron allows you to go FF because their "Holy Trinity" is a third of the price Sony's trinity is.

[@SpyderXY]

dont tell me what to do. i just ordered a full frame camera today, jerk

[@dunnadidit]

Lol 😂 nice!

[@DavidsHawkins]

Question about your video, what camera did you use, and lens in this specific video?

[@MichaelVernando]

The first 1 minute of the video, really,. That's me right now.

[@Starclassic87]

OMG!! 😱 my life summed up in the first 2 min of this video was accurate!!!😒😂 which is probably why I own both of these cameras 😂😂😂😂

[@dunnadidit]

Haha 😂

[@jeremyboesmans]

And that's the reason I don't own any of these two cameras yet, can't choose btw them...

[@louiscyphre2555]

@@jeremyboesmans same

[@potownrob]

One thing I think you may have touched on but probably not enough is that the full frame lenses are usually bigger and heavier. To get a good quality zoom or fast prime lens on full frame, the lens is gonna be big and heavy. Well worth it for the potential image quality, but I often wish for the smaller lenses of the APS-C world.

[@GhostTheory]

I’m still sticking with full frame and my bank account hates me 😇

[@dunnadidit]

I hear that loud and clear

[@educatetube]

Not buying sony apsc camera unless they have 10bit 422 like fuji xt3. Kinda sad sony is falling behind fujifilm. I own a7r3 and still waiting on a7s3 to complete my sony best cameras. A5000 is still the most economical vlogging flip-up screen video camera. Sony fs700r is the best economical studio camera due to the xlr mic input.

[@dunnadidit]

Thanks for your input!

[@ChrisParayno]

For most, crop sensor is fine. Newer faster lenses and cheaper costs overall is enough to stay crop. Fuji X-mount system is a great example of a pro series that can go toe to toe with the full frame guys with the right glass combo and color science!

[@dunnadidit]

Totally!

[@movakalin5333]

If you don’t make a living with photography apsc is good enough and you safe money. Family, friends, landscape, city trips, can all be done. I would go with a6600.

[@dunnadidit]

Agreed!

[@LexTNeville]

Is APSC good enough for a4 print publishing and digital work?

[@nikola2798]

@@LexTNevilleyes

[@gulfmediacollective2249]

Just get the Canon EOS R and have Full Frame Mirrorless with a flip screen and high mgpx count! Not Sony tho

[@dunnadidit]

“Full Frame”... except one 4k 😉 but yes, the EOS R is one heck of a camera still! I kept it to Sony stuff cause that’s what most of my audience seems to want me to talk about 😁

[@professionalpotato4764]

@Owain Gwilym That 4k crop though... Even the a6600 does better in 4k than the EOS R.

[@redteam65]

Upscale to 4k and you'll be fine. Or shoot 1080 bc where are you uploading to that the bulk of your audience is seeing it in 4k and not downscale to 1080, or 720.

[@waawaaweewaa2045]

yeah but the eos R doesnt have image stabilization which is kind of a big deal, especially since ur dropping 2 grand on a body.

[@redteam65]

@@waawaaweewaa2045 no it doesnt. At this point your better off waiting for what canon offers this year than to spend the money on the r. But all of the rf glass to pair with the r is stabilized wich halfway makes up for the camera not having ibis. Also, I have an rp that I love. But the silent shutter is not a global shutter so that's something to be aware of as well

[@adonnismariano940]

Easy to say for a person who have a full frame camera that they can use whenever their aps-c camera reaches it's feature capability limits.

[@habibidxb2868]

Just read the description: Gear I use: Sony a7 III 😂

[@Tekillyah]

From Canon 6D to Sony A6400.... Never regretted it. #sonynotsorry :)

[@dunnadidit]

LOVE IT!

[@JulezDeJesus]

I just pre-ordered the a6600 camera this weekend. Can't wait for it to get here. 😬

[@dunnadidit]

I'm probably going to pre-order mine this week!

[@Glen.Danielsen]

Julez DeJesus Si hermano Julez, I am hot on the a6600’s great eye-detect auto focus!

[@campa_t]

dream cam😖

[@Glen.Danielsen]

Not sure, but Sony added a new advanced feature for street photography: the marvelous autofocus with AND (Auto Nipple Detect). 🤭 lol

[@dunnadidit]

No recording limit on the a6600

[@pluggednickels]

If a consumer doesn't know why to buy a Full Frame then yes you are correct they should just buy a APS-C

[@PhotographyByAhad]

high end phones takes better photos then crop body cameras these days ( one plus 7 pro, google pixel, asus zenphone 6, iphones, etc). you dont need a crop body. just buy a good phone of the same price. you will get more out of it trust me. if you want proper photos that blows your mind when you see them, by full frame body with a prime lens.

[@dunnadidit]

Unfortunately, the same way that there are limitations with what you can do on crop bodies compared to full frame, there are also limitations with the phone cameras. With a crop body, I can get an f1.4 lens and get really nice shallow depth of field, the fake depth of field function on the phones just isn’t the same and you don’t have the same control over it. All that said, phone cameras (more so the processing they do) is very impressive, but I dont think phones are replacements for cameras yet, either apsc or FF.

[@DeLoEnterprises]

Debating on A6600 OR A7C for 4k Automotive KZbin videos, What's your pick? Thanks

[@dunnadidit]

Ooh that’s tough. Gotta go A7c though. That camera definitely makes this video a little harder to stand by haha

[@suboptimaley]

I'm super satisfied with my APS-C, don't feel like I'm missing anything YET :) What you said about the auto focus is interesting though. It would be amazing if you could do a video about focus comparison, best focus settings, differences with photo/video, etc!

[@dunnadidit]

Someone in the comments here mentioned that it might have to do with the smaller elements in the lenses. Less to move equals quicker focus maybe?

[@sarahjohnston6509]

just bought a Sony alpha 6000 plus a Sigma 30mm:) I feel good about my decision!

[@ΓιώργοςΚαλλίγερος-ι5ω]

I choose APS-C for proffesional corporate filmmaking and I have great results. With a good lighting setup and some prime lenses everything is fine. Also I don't have to use large and heavy gimbals . Everything is lighter, cheaper and more compact. The only thing I missing is the wide prespective of the full frame when shooting hotels and the two card slots.

[@dunnadidit]

Absolutely!

[@TheNegativeSpacePhotographer]

I switched from full frame to Fuji apsc and have some nice f1.2 glass and do pro work on them.

[@emvaldz6635]

Buy canon, or Nikon Full frame instead of Sony

[@dukenukem5768]

Or Pentax, Fuji, Leica. Unlike those, Sony are basically a consumer electronics company who took cameras on board during the early 200's DSLR craze but will dump them as soon as its bean counters think there is more money to be made elsewhere. The splitting off of their imaging division just last week could be a sign of it already.

[@emvaldz6635]

@@dukenukem5768 exactly

[@CausallyExplained]

Full Frame any day, seen so many comparisons and just love the way full frame looks and low light performance is phenomenal!

[@dunnadidit]

Nice! It does have a nice look!

[@miikkakervinen]

It does! I had x-t2 for some time, and switched BACK to a7ii because the photos does look better. I also do video and the 4k is kinda heavy to proces on my macbook so sony’s top quality 1080p is good enough for me

[@aleksejbarcelona6191]

keketin x-t3 way better than Sony a7 ||| ... in photos and videos

[@miikkakervinen]

Aleksej Barcelona Allright? I was talking about x-t2 and a7ii, but i do think the x-t2 is better than a7ii if you look specs, exept lowlight performance. But a7ii is also like 2 years older.

[@cjonwickham1933]

When shopping ...indecisive. go home with nothing after looking at options a or b maybe option c....

[@dunnadidit]

This is good advice

[@ken6260]

I use a 6400 and I love this cam, but in the future I will buy as a "second" camera the a7 III or the IV. Because of the rolling shutter effect in videos. 🤷🏻‍♂️ One good reason, I can use all of my full frame lens on booth cameras. 👍🏻

[@dunnadidit]

UGGGHHHH I hate the rolling shutter on the sony apsc cameras... it is the bane of my existence.

[@henrikhiilamo]

Me: I'm so exited about my new A7 III Dunna:"And because I know there's someone out there watching who just bought a A7 III and wants a little validation" Me:😶 Literally me a few hours ago

[@dunnadidit]

Haha 😂

[@jwalker6188]

I'm looking at 3 cameras A6600, ZV-E10, or A7C. I produce TV promos for a Nashville TV station (shooting FS7 & FX3) but do produce some freelance video on the side using my DJI Osmo+. I rented a ZV-E10 for a recent night shoot and liked the picture, but missed the stabilization. I think APSC would work for what I need, but the purpose of buying a camera is because the OSMO does not do well in low light and of course the zoom and depth of field. My budget is 2 grand or less. What would you recommend?

[@mirrorlessny]

a7C is both lightweight & full frame, but uses a lot of a7iii tech, I'm waiting for a7Cii,,,,,,,, a6600 + Sigma f1.4 apsc lenses is good combo for handheld low light, but smaller apsc sensor & same old video tech like 8bit codecs & mediocre ibis

[@avin0_022]

*For people watching in 2021 Sony launched full frame in crop sensor body*

[@abdulmoiz6256]

a7c?

[@Jimmyageek]

Dude MFT is Good Enough!

[@dunnadidit]

There are some fantastic M4/3 options out there!

[@CJ007UP]

as a non-native english speaker, I wish everyone in the world could speak as well and understandable as you do. Bravo

[@dunnadidit]

Thank you so much!

[@feliperodriguessoaressampa7275]

True!

[@kasekuchenmitsahne9568]

The aps-c cameras focus better because of a better firmeware and autofocus software. That‘s all the magic. Sony started implementing the real time af with the a6400 and all cameras that followed got the new firmware including the a9

[@dunnadidit]

Cool! Thanks for sharing!

[@peterbonneau6760]

I have both APS (Sony a6500) and a full frame Nikon Z6. Up to 30x19 prints, the photo quality is virtually the same. I can't lift a heavy camera/lens combo because of a surgically repaired total rotator cuff. One primary purpose is airshow photography; for this my Sony a6500/70/350 lens combination is workable handheld. I tried the Nikon Z6 with the Nikon 200-500 zoom, and that combo is too heavy.

[@dunnadidit]

That makes perfect sense!

[@cognitiveweightcontrol8163]

I think you really have to take a very hard look at what's important to you. There will be tradeoffs no matter what choice you make. I recently decided my Nikon d7100 was getting a little long of tooth so I spent a lot of time and effort evaluating options. There are so many seductive choices out there, it was really hard. I finally decided that the most important features for me were that the camera be small and light enough to travel with me easily on trips where photography wasn't the primary purpose of the trip and that it take really sharp pictures meaning that it had really good lenses and dead-on autofocus. I ended up getting an a6600 with a 16-55 lens and also a 70-350 lens. I knew I'd have to put up with Sony's horrible menu structure and tiny and sparse buttons and dials and I'd have to give up the much-preferred dials and amazing color science on the Fuji XT-4. I wouldn't have full-frame low-light performance and bokeh or a fully articulating screen. I'd have to give up focus shifting/bracketing (that one hurt) and have a small EVF. And I wouldn't have the super everything (including super expensive and super heavy) on something like the Canon R5. But so far I'm really happy with my purchase. The a6600 is in fact small, light and easy to travel with, the autofocus is amazing, and the lenses I got are incredibly sharp. But I really mean it. Figure out what's most important to you, because you can't have everything.

[@dunnadidit]

Fantastic point and when I really think about it... kind of the underlying message of this whole video too. It’s not that I’m saying everyone should buy this and not that. It’s that people get caught up in the hype and they don’t actually take a look at what’s important to them. Glad you’re liking your a6600!

[@teriyaki_9inety9ine27]

Im new at photography, and Im looking for camera and eyeing on a6400 for a long time but the gatekeepers "pro" has do many bad things to say to sony and it make me back out for now.

[@dunnadidit]

It definitely has some issues, but all cameras do. It really is a great piece of kit.

[@professionalpotato4764]

Idk what they've said... I'm pretty new at photos and videos myself with only about 1 year experience. But I'm already considering switching over completely from both Nikon and Canon to Sony. In terms of photos, Sony is pretty much king I think. For videos, well, Sony needs to throw out the A7IV and A7SIII soon. Their current video specs are great, but could be better.Their competitors are doing a lot better these days.

[@AlTheEngineer]

Yeah, I lusted after the Sony Full Frame for a while, but after I demoed an A6400 in the store, I bought it and never looked back. It's basically 90% of what the bigger more expensive full-frame cameras can offer (for me), and I needed it for travel, throwing it in my backpack with a couple of lenses is SMALLER and lighter than my old Nikon DSLR without any lenses, haha! Crazy! Love the formfactor, and I wish they would even make a smaller camera.

[@dunnadidit]

Awesome!!

[@tomsquires2926]

Full Frame E Mount glass is way better than APS-C. The only lenses that are any sorta crisp are the 16-55 F2.8 that's a bananas $1400 and the Sigma prime 16,30,56 trio. Its not the APS-C camera or sensor that's the problem (although ibis on the A6600 is really helpful to have compared to lower models). The A6400 and A6600 are both pretty good. It's the crap quality glass overall that's the problem.

[@dunnadidit]

I do wish that sony would do a bit more for the aps-c glass. I love that sigma did the line of primes but making a bunch of full frame glass that also works on apsc (with loss of quality) is not enough.

[@McCurryChickenWing]

Great Video but your comparison at 05:12 isn't quite right. You can't compare the Sony FE 1.4 lenses to the Sigma 1.4.. we still have to multiply the aperture in addition to the focal length. So a Sigma 56mm 1.4 would have a Aperture of about 2 compared to Full frame.... So a much more cheaper 1.8 FE lens would be the right equivalent to the APSC 1.4 version, yes... Still a almost double the size but also less than half the prize of a FE 1.4 Lens. ✌️😊

[@dunnadidit]

Hey Andreas... I hear what you're saying and I appreciate that you're getting picky but its only partially correct. As far as depth of field, yes, you would need to multiply the aputure as well. We could look at the sigma 16mm f1.4 vs the sony Zeiss 24mm f1.8 (the only 24mm f1.8 e mount I could find) and you'd still get $399 vs $1098. But for low light, the f1.4 is still going to be a bit stronger than the f1.8. So its not quite across the board that you multiply the aputure, just when dealing with depth of field, thus making this whole conversation even more complicated but either way... $399 vs $1098 or $399 vs $1398, my point still stands.

[@charruaporelmundo]

Nahhh...I like better my ff, (I started with a6000) and as other did say, the argument that ff glasses are more expenses is inaccurate, of course, if you focus on Gm they are, also are expensive the new sony zoom 2.8 apsc, or still expensive the zeiss 24, .....also, a7iii is not any more at 2000, I do have some really expensive ones (planar) , but also the fantastic tamron 28-75, many primes are coming at 349!,,...and know sigma is coming out too. Is more a question of what you like better....just it.

[@dunnadidit]

I know everyone keeps bringing up the 16-55 f2.8 and yeah that lens is expensive, but I think overall, the lineup of apsc lenses is less expensive. Thats been my experience anyway, my whole kit for aps-c probably cost a third what my Full Frame lens kit cost. All that said, you're totally right about it just being up to the person and what they need or like, just like I said at the end of the video!

[@Gionimo]

APS-c is definately cheaper on the lenses for the majority of them.

[@Vikingdescendent]

I chose the Fuji X T3 over the Sony A7 3. It's a camera for everyone , the features, lenses and quality will amaze you. Just get OIS Fuji lenses. If you shot weddings, the Sony A7 series is a good choice.

[@dunnadidit]

The XT-3 is a perfect example of a camera that outperforms a lot of full frame cameras. Like all cameras, it has its pros/cons, but it’s really great overall.

[@metamurph]

@@dunnadidit the think Fuji is missing for me is IBIS. I rented a EM-1x for a trip to europe, love the size (even though I have big hands), I basically carried it in my hands all day. I have never been the most stable shooter going back to when I was young shooting film. But bottom line on your vid. Know your real "needs" and what fits those.

[@dunnadidit]

Exactly!

[@Decodingfashion_]

I am still confused about being in the full frame domain and spend extra on everything. Im reconsidering APSC.

[@fuglbird]

I don't care about Sony's Full Frame or APS-C cameras. I'm waiting for the price of medium frame cameras to drop. Full Frame and APS-C digital cameras cannot compete with my trusted 120 film camera for printed photos. I agree with you that for KZbinrs, APS-C or Micro Four Thirds may be a good choice. However most KZbinrs seem to prefer being the center of attention using very blurry backgrounds and therefore are moving towards larger formats. This is a good thing, because it may drive the prices of medium format digital cameras down.

[@dunnadidit]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@abhayjackful]

I was going to buy full frames for prewedding shoot but now i am gonna upgrade my sony a6000 with sony 50mm f/1.8 (e mount) lens and sigma 16mm f/1.4 lens! What do you think? Are these lenses good upgrade?

[@mirrorlessny]

Sigma 1.4 lenses = best choice, unless you need OSS

[@ashishtiwari1912]

I am a photographer. I use a6000 with sigma 56mm f1. 4 for portrait work. Works great. I have compared it with pictures on full frame. To be honest the image quality difference is not worth upgrading to a full frame. I spent money on buying the right lens and proper lighting equipment and it works great. If light is not great, you aren't going to produce decent results whether it is full frame or aps-c. Greetings from India

[@Hellosirrrr]

Have you ever tried ligma blz fs?

[@jesperolsen4951]

Great video - nice to see someone not saying fullframe is a must! 👍

[@dunnadidit]

Thanks! Definitely not a must... more like a nice option if you can lol.

[@edventures9884]

I want to go full frame so bad so I was like okay I’ll buy a 7sii they’re about $1k not bad.. but then I saw the price of the lens and I changed my mind 😂

[@noblegendforever2052]

sony fulframe len is no joke man.. i got my 6100 for $600+ sigma 16mm $400 ( video use) + sigma 30mm ( portrait photo )$300. sum everything up is $1300. I can still get the sigma 56mm for another $400. which lead me to $1700. Still less than a fullframe body $2000. GOOD DAY.

[@mrvoyage6651]

hey dunna I just bought the sony a7c few hours ago ...but right now i am watc yohing your video .....i messed up i think ....so i didn't buy lense for my camera ..i just think about tamron 17-70 f 2.8 for little bit street photography ,weeding videography ,and talking head video ...whats your opinion in this way ? help please

[@dunnadidit]

That combination is going to be awesome for you! The A7c makes this video a lot harder for me haha. I made this video before that camera existed. Because all the great things I said about apsc, the A7c also has. So you can feel confident that you made a great choice!!

[@ChrisLoan]

Why all people say don’t buy a full frame camera have a full frame camera? 🧐

[@Dionysus73]

maybe they got the experience and know the difference...

[@dunnadidit]

If you watch the whole video you’ll understand 😁 unfortunately there’s only so much I can say in the title and still be catchy and clickable.

[@IanHobday]

I am upgrading, from Nikon full frame to Sony APS-C. The A6600 combined with the Sigma f1.4 "trinity" make the best bang-for-buck setup on the market today. Add Sony's 10-18 and/or the Sony 70-350 if you have needs in those areas. Compact, lightweight, relatively affordable, and incredibly capable.

[@dunnadidit]

Was bam thank you ma’am! Love it!

[@IanHobday]

@@dunnadidit Great video from Peter McKinnon that's related to this topic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGmvgKKHrbicbq8

[@mirrorlessny]

yea Sigma/a6600 combo is powerful, 1.4 Sigma lenses were an eye opener for me with that magical blur 😵

[@jinmaikeul]

Depends on what your goal is, but I wouldn't recommend APS-C unless you're buying into the Fuji system. Most manufacturers treat their APS-C lines as an afterthought with products primarily geared toward the consumer level. Because of this, all of the best lenses from companies like Sony, Canon, Nikon, etc. are released for their full frame bodies. Even if you get into third party lenses, companies like Sigma still release their best lenses for full frame, too. Fuji, however, doesn't have a full frame line and until their relatively recent push into medium format, APS-C was what they solely focused on so their APS-C lenses are absolutely fantastic. So if image quality is really important to you (your lens is going to be a huge determining factor in image quality), then you probably want to skip APS-C altogether and just buy a lower end (or previous generation) full frame body. If you're pretty sure you're never going to want to leap to full frame, I would argue that Micro-4/3 is a better option than APS-C in most instances. It's even more compact and there are fantastic optics for it. Olympus doesn't make APS-C or full frame cameras so their best lenses are released in Micro-4/3 format and just about every video shooter ought to be familiar with Panasonic's GH-series cameras. With full frame cameras coming down in price (Canon's EOS RP is $1000 brand new as of this writing), it's getting more difficult to rationalize purchasing an APS-C camera in my opinion.

[@dunnadidit]

Great points! Thanks for sharing!

[@stevestruthers6180]

It's not necessarily true that full-frame camera makers offer better lenses. Sony's kit 28-70mm full-frame lens, designed to be used on its A7-series cameras, is actually a fairly mediocre lens. Sony sells that lens in an effort to reduce the financial bite of buying into their full-frame system and thus make it more attractive to people on a budget. I personally predict that APS-C is going to go the way of the dodo bird in the next few years anyway, for several reasons. One is that there are too many cameras on the market now, regardless of format, chasing too few consumer dollars. As a result, there is too much segmentation. Smart phone cameras are becoming more capable, and this is another reason. The improvements in smart phone cameras and segmentation have cut deeply into industry profits. In fact, these two factors alone were enough to cause Olympus to sell its camera division to a third party. Finally, it makes much more sense, both from a marketing standpoint and an economic standpoint, to make one type of camera and one type of lens system - namely, full-frame. What the camera makers need to do is spend more money on R & D to find out how to make full-frame cameras and lenses cheaper and thus more affordable, without giving up quality. The consumer will also benefit because buying cameras will become a simple thing again, without a myriad of confusing options. Making a full-frame camera that appeals to people who want simple a point-and-shoot camera shouldn't be that hard. If Pentax could make a nearly full-auto 35mm SLR back in the 1970s and 1980s that sold well, then it shouldn't be difficult for any other manufacturer to do the same.

[@cameraprepper7938]

For Sony you can get a LOT of compact, light weight full frame Lenses that works great on Sony APSC Cameras, so no problems for Sony. Fuji is is too expensive being APSC size !

[@travisraab]

Is there even one lens wider than 24mm equivalent for this system? I haven't seen one.

[@dunnadidit]

10-18

[@ayandutta3207]

For Sony 6400...Sony G 70-350mm or Sigma E mount 100-400... Which one is a better choice if I have to choose a good tele lense?

[@dunnadidit]

I’d probably go 70-350

[@smashexentertainment676]

The only reason I'll be getting a FF is to have the exact focal length of my lenses as it is. APS-C sometimes doesn't feel wide enough. But I'll still keep all my APS-C cameras, because why not)

[@dunnadidit]

I hear you! I’ve noticed a big difference in how I shoot now that I can go super wide to 16mm full frame. I never used to like that look but its growing on me for certain things

[@bradley8418]

Exact focal length?? Focal length is focal length. It doesn’t change just because you put a different size sensor behind it. Only the perceived focal length changes due to cropping or expanding. You don’t get an exact focal length just because you put a 35mm sensor behind it.

[@dunnadidit]

This is true, but it’s pretty obvious what they were talking about.

[@eugenekwj]

But honestly lenses > body right? So if we get a Sony A6400 and a good lens, we should be just fine :)

[@dunnadidit]

I’ve taken some of my favorite videos and photos with that combo

[@danieldougan269]

I shoot Micro Four Thirds, and it's good enough most of the time. Plus, the crop factor helps me get closer to subjects that are far away, like wildlife. But I could certainly use an extra stop or two of ISO performance because I have to use fast shutter speeds to capture action.

[@dunnadidit]

It’s all give and take. Both ways. That’s why I wanted to make this video! Too many people trying to convince people full frame is the ONLY way.

[@Casskario]

For photography at least I disagree. Get yourself a used A7ii and build up a good lense collection since good glass makes the biggest difference. Because the time will come where you want to upgrade to fullframe, but you have all these APSC lenses then .. The A7ii is used really cheap and the quality is still amazing... . I bought it new back then and I am still using it and I am really happy :)

[@dunnadidit]

Nice! Thanks for your thoughts

[@louveniataylor1375]

I have a Nikon d3300 which lens would be best for vlogging. Thanks . Awesome video.

[@dunnadidit]

I’m not super familiar with nikon’s lineup but look for something wide like a 10-18mm if you can! Generally people seem to like ultra wide lenses for vlogging.

[@bloodmoney88]

Love my 6400... with my 16mm sigma, & sony 90mm macro G lens. Plus a few others, but these 2 lenses rarely leave my camera bag. The images are... exquisite. Cheaper, all I need as a hobbyist. Happy to stop buying and just use this rig. Because i bought the 6400 i could afford the 90 macro as my first lens for it, so Glad I bought the FE 90mm... works great on the 6400, when I use the 90 6400 combo, my description is that the images I capture are what I'll easily call my money shots.

[@dunnadidit]

That’s awesome

[@DeputyNordburg]

As a sports shoot, I love to have FF and crop cameras with me at the same time. The versatility is fantastic.

[@RRTravel]

Bardzo pomocny film w którym wiele objaśniłeś w prostych słowach. Dla mnie zmiana na FF to ogromny wydatek, zwłaszcza, że mam sporo obiektywów do APS-C. Jedyne co mi brakuje w mojej s6300 to stabilizacja, no i może jeszcze obracany ekran. Moja A6300 jest w klatce SmallRig która go powiększa, daje możliwość montażu akcesoriów i chroni przed uderzeniami. Nie zarabiam na filmach i zdjęciach więc zostaję z APS-C. Dzięki wielkie :)

[@loudandclearmedia]

APSC 1.4 is not the same as full frame 1.4. You need to apply the crop factor to aperture too, so these lenses are really nothing like each other. The GM is faster, and since it's also on a FF body, the bigger sensor will gather more light through that faster lens. Price difference, sure, but don't think for an instant that the GM doesn't walk all over the Sigma in every measure.

[@dunnadidit]

Agreed. I said that in the video. I mentioned that I don’t think the lenses are equal or the same. But they are the two most talked about standard wide lenses for each system. Also, just because the Sony is absolutely fantastic in pretty much every way, doesn’t mean that the sigma is a bad lens, that thing is still a great lens, especially for the price.