A Detailed Sony A7C vs Sony A6600 Comparison

[@GregerBurman]

You're about the only camera review channel for hobbyists that's still sane. Thank you.

[@jorgensen8]

Ditto here on the a6000. Haven't found a real reason to upgrade. Then again I don't use it that much, especially with travel restrictions.

[@alexhall9450]

The thing that’s held me back from Sony apsc is the single memory card slot. Too much of a risk to use it for professional work.

[@PieterBreda]

@@alexhall9450 I can understand that. I am an amateur. It als socks losing pictures but there is no loss of income.

[@alexhall9450]

@@PieterBreda I do wedding photography. The a6600 is defiantly good enough but the small risk of an sd card corrupting is too big for me. Think it’s a brilliant camera though.

[@GregerBurman]

I understand that you can't risk SD card corruption. But for $4000+ I don't want 2 card slots, I want a fast internal SSD like any smartphone.

[@Latiosx123]

I came here for a camera comparison, stayed till the end to get education

[@brianfong5711]

Meanwhile in A6000 land, we are still using the A6000.

[@MrG0olden]

I'm awaiting the next APS-C generation, 4k60 and the good stuff

[@royhobbs785]

Me too

[@richardmn4698]

X2

[@mirrorlessny]

I started with cellphone, then gopro6 & only then got a6000 👍 it's a popular camera for a good reason

[@limpfishyes]

same, it's taken me 7 years to figure out the menu and the 35mm 1.8 has never been off since I bought it.

[@Felipe2077tv]

You probably hear this a lot, but you're one of my favourite reviewers. You seem to have very little bias, often blunt about your opinions (such as saying stick with the equipment you got), you don't use click-baity titles, and you actually talk about negatives all the time!!! So few reviewers (especially for camera equipment) point out and show the negatives about products!!! Thank you for this top notch quality, and I hope you keep it up. Live long and prosper.

[@randolphwaterman1020]

There is a difference between the two focal coverage patterns. The apc; crop is smaller coverage than the full frame A7c.

[@harishkiran3663]

@@randolphwaterman1020 Get a wider one then!

[@phucmapvlog]

I watched quite a few comparison videos to get to this point, I wish I would’ve just seen this one first...

[@HienNguyen-in6rr]

chào Phúc mập nha

[@TiagoLacerra]

OMG you also here! I love you!

[@pinkflairgirl]

I went from an a6500 to an a7riv last year, and I haven’t looked back. For me and what I photograph, the better high ISO performance and eye autofocus were game changers. But I loved my a6500 and my a6000 before that and would recommend an APS-C to most of my hobbyist friends, especially now that Tamron has that all-in-one f/2.8 zoom. Thanks for the informative video!

[@NiqHowie]

I had both the a6000 and an a6500, this week I finally parted with my a6500, and my sigma lenses, so I could purchase an a7iii. So now I need to rebuild my lens kit. As of now I’m only using my tamron 28-75 f2.8. I REALLY wanted an a7c but got a killer deal on a used a7iii that I couldn’t pass up!

[@jujuuu1]

what do you photograph and why is it so important to you to go full frame in comparison to your friends? I’m really interested, because I’m only a hobby photographer and use an a6000 and I’m really annoyed by the autofocus and the colors of the pictures sometimes. But since I’m not that strong, I really like the light weight of my setup. Also, fullframe is really expensive

[@FlipperInc]

As a beginner, i went with a used original A7. Thought that I'd get full frame to start building a lens collection to eventually upgrade body, but for now, really happy with the oldie first gen A7

[@SourPlanet]

Wish I saw this kinda comment more often. Cameras have been *very good* for a long time now. Latest and greatest is rarely needed. When I wanted to try mirrorless after decades of Nikon DSLRs.. I picked up an original A6000 for $225. Used it for two years and then swapped over to the A7C once I knew exactly what I needed. That A6000 netted me thousands of great shots and never held me back.

[@superteamvideo1930]

I still have my A7r and that full frame sensor is so highly detailed, you need to pair it with a better than general purpose lense. The thing is, only full frame primes are compact. The zooms not so much.

[@paulhendershott667]

My heart stopped when you started rubbing the sensors!!! Lol!!!

[@NickL0VIN]

lol. Sensors are very, very hard to scratch (see Arthur R's sensor video). I use to cringe too!

[@larswara2124]

Me too! :-)

[@mytube2013]

@@NickL0VIN but may leave dust on it?

[@NickL0VIN]

@@mytube2013 yeah there’s always dust on it, wish Sony had a dust cover for their lower end cameras.

[@ezhilkin]

I almost had a heart-attack when you touched sensors

[@danfernandogaming1851]

same

[@izayus11]

*Me with my $400 used a6300 nodding in agreement*

[@mirrorlessny]

you are good, a6300 is very capable especially paired with f1.4 Sigma apsc or even Sony35mmf1.8 oss apsc

[@Thumpr110]

I love the a6300. It’s a fantastic camera

[@Blizz4rd]

A6000 here... And an A7R III. :D But I still love my A6000. I bought a 7artisans 7.5mm f/2.8 fisheye lens for it, and it's really fun to use.

[@picturepablo4918]

A6300 Gang!

[@davidcosta6627]

same here!

[@jatin.c]

I got a6300 after watching your reviews. Most of my friends own a7iii. But I'm happy with what my camera can do and how it can help me with my workflow. The autofocus is way better than a7iii and always silent. Battery isn't great. But I'm fine with it. At the end of the day no one cares what you're shooting with, rather what you're shooting and how good it could be produced and presented. Thanks for your honest reviews man. Always love the Mafia channel 👻⭐

[@TarekJellali]

I was this close to selling my A6000, 16-50 kit, 55-200 and 50f1.8 just to get some money and add more for an A7C. Your words convinced me again that I don't need FF. Thank you man you're the best!

[@henrybrandis5455]

Excellent review. I upgraded from a a6400 to an a6600 because I needed the IBIS, and I'm very happy with it. I decided against the A7c because of the cost of full frame lenses. Your review covered all the bases, and confirmed my decision.

[@michalcervenansky4067]

Agree, APS-C is cool. Just go and buy a Fuji. To be honest Sony's APS-C segment is good only because of third party lenses. Sigma trio is great as well as tamron zoom. Maybe sony's 18-135 is useful while travelling. But combined it makes a lot of sense with a cheaper body. However, I still find that A6xxx cameras doesn't suit me. I prefer dslr style, AF-joystick and more control. Sony should have done aps-c in A7 body.

[@richardmn4698]

Dude, I appreciate your honesty so much. Thanks for this.

[@jebeq2007]

So basically this review/comparison says if you can't afford it buy the cheaper camera. Otherwise the A7C is a much better camera as he states at 15:33.

[@BrianTheCameraGuy]

Great job as always Arthur. I love how you stick to the APS-C. I give you a ton of credit. Bravo

[@dwightlooi]

I really wish Sony will make the A7IV and A7V just like the A7C. Why? Because that bigger, higher res EVF on the A7 DOES NOT make better photos. It's just extra money they force you to spend for no picture or video quality benefit. Also, the central EVF is very annoying in that it puts your nose smack into the LCD screen greasing it up and making you uncomfortable, The A7C's smaller, cheaper, offset EVF is perfect. Now, can we get an A7C with the new 33MP sensor or even the 61MP A7R5 sensor?

[@TheCameraManReviews]

Excellent video Arthur. Got me a 6400. I cant afford the Full Frame glass to move up to FF.

[@OLuvin]

Sony is annoying. Let's look at buffer: a6600 does 115 JPGs or 46 RAW released in 2019. The a6500, it's predecessor, released in 2016, does 269 JPGs or 107 RAW. Why, Sony? WHY? It's safe to say they already had a7c planned and wanted to widened the gap between their flagship APS-C and their new entry-level FF. The grip: they knew damn well they could release it with a bigger grip just like all their other latest FF bodies but held back in order to give more shine to when they magically add it to the a7cII. Sony is too comfortable sitting on top of the mirrorless mountain. Great video! And glad you're not leaving the APS-C world (yet)

[@aliensarefromspace]

Asa novice photographer i appreciate the larger battery, the autofocus and IBIS of my 6600, and honestly, for me it's worth it. Not planning on upgrading anytime soon.

[@MarwanRashad]

I spent a month comparing cameras until i finally decided to buy the a6600 over full frame cameras. The deciding factor for me was the weight. Full frame lenses usually weigh double as much as APSC lenses. I know from experience if my camera gear is too heavy I'll just leave it at home, never take it on trips and use my phone instead. I highly recommend people to add the weight of the lenses before making a decision. example: A7 III + 24-105 f/4 = 1313 grams A6600 + 16-55 f/2.8 = 997 grams you can almost add an a6100 to that and weigh the same

[@RealNightFuryX]

A7C + 24-105 = 1195 grams.... but yes, apsc is slightly lighter

[@SolarPowerChannelwithChris]

I hear you, I was in Vietnam just before Covid, I was in the north. The people there are poor, swinging about a full frame it catches peoples eye. The smaller apsc camera I find you don't draw attention and more likely to vlog. I also used my osmo action when it was busy.

[@giovanniprado3887]

not a big difference. try a7c + 28 70 sigma

[@agentdanieltaylor4071]

Iove small too, but a7c can use crop lenses super well, so i think i want to ditch my a6400 to get more iso, free motion screen, better battery, and higher usable iso especially in video

[@רביבמיוחס]

I used to have an A7II for six years. Replaced it to A6400 about 2 years ago and I am very happy. Especially zoom lenses are smaller and lighter, and the difference with F1.4 primes is huge. I shoot street photography and a small sized camera and lenses is a great benefit, especially because of visibility, not only weight.

As always, a really good summary of Sony FF vs APS-C. Fits me perfectly as I’m somewhere inbetween A6600 and A7C. I have the A7C already but.... by some of the reasons you mention, I miss my A6500. Might be that I go back to APS-C... it feels like price/performance/lenses fits better to my needs. Thanks for a great comparison.

[@ShanePlaysTheGuitar]

Got the A6600 During the Filmclass last year, other students ditched my Cam Because APSC ( and no further reasoning) and it was Filmed in Daylight 1 Year Later, ,made my first self directed Video with the A6600 and People wouldn´t believe me that it was shot on the apsc, becuase of the Sensor Size In fact, alot of other students in my University are young and they came across the " Full Frame " Only Stuff due Social media without comparing or sseing other results lol Bought my A6600 with the Sigma 16mm 1.4 for 1300€ together ( Special Deal atm when i bought it)

[@yohanchoi2418]

refreshing review. Appreciate the honesty.

[@brainysmurf74]

I went to a shoot with my a6000 at an event and got laughed at by the other photographers who thought it was a point and shoot. Some photographers even stood in front of me while filming, blocking my view. They had zero respect for me. I do not get those reactions when I film with my a7r3. Everything is totally different.

[@bozmundarts2614]

i'd beat their ass up... seriously, what a bunch of suckers :/

[@JordanLedbetter]

@@bozmundarts2614 you'd physically assault someone because they laughed at your choice in camera?

[@purplecorde]

What we have all been waiting for. 👏🏼👍🏼💯

[@andyabajo]

If youre just gonna use it for youtube,n go with the apc. Heck I still know some youtubers still uses A6000 up to this point. If youre a pro with a massive portfolio to your name, then why youre watching this video?! Just kidding, I'd say go with the apc too! I know you have your A7iii or A7S whatever number it follows, point is apc cameras are getting better and better and they are good main and back up camera.

[@mirrorlessny]

true, I went full frame but still keeping a6600 as it's a good backup & can use with full frame lenses

[@castielvargastv7931]

to me the skin tones on the 6600 are much better, more natural the a7c makes you yelowish , not a good look at all

[@educatetube]

... Both are overpriced. Arthur, totally I agree with you. I think for the price, the Sony a6100 is a better choice.

[@sibangjack]

Your channel is the reason why I'm still using a6000. I remember when I was searching for my first camera, youtube suggested your video about why you're switching to a6000 and your channel back then was Technology Mafia. It's good to see people isn't forgetting about the a6000 series. Yeah many people said full frame will give you this, will give you that, full frame is better than crop sensor, etc. But for me as a hobbyist, a6000 is still enough, just slap some great prime lenses like Sony 35mm/50mm f1.8 OSS or Sigma trio f1.4 and you're ready to go.

[@JoeSzilagy]

I think the a6000 is still one of the most popular and highly-recommended cameras in the world.

[@billx4266]

Just bought my A1 for my 1080p vlogs with a 35 1.4 GM

[@ArthurR]

😂

[@stang8913]

The flip screen of A7C is much better for the vertical photo

[@NickL0VIN]

The #1 reason i switched from a6600/a7 III to the a7c. I'm a portrait orientation shooter.

[@stang8913]

@@NickL0VIN it's really the point that I may change mine to A7C too

[@ArkCullberg]

I have both 6400 and A7RIII. I love 6400 - use it most of the time With Sony 70-350!

[@pankajvermacs]

A6400 with 70-350 is probably the best combo for outdoor shooting in APS-C segment. I'll go to the extent saying that unless one is a professional one probably doesn't even need a third lens apart from 70-350 and one 50mm prime.

[@javierescarabajal508]

Heyy really nice video!👍 do you think that in the near future we will have an apsc with more megapixels and a bigger sensor??

[@NickL0VIN]

I guarantee it! I'm guessing end of this year or 2022

[@professionalpotato4764]

More megapixels, unlikely. Bigger sensor, no. APS-C is a fixed format size so it's not going to deviate much from the 1.5x crop size. 24MP is a pretty good sweet spot between photo and video performance. The people who need the extra megapixels for print (or other industries) would be going full-frame or medium format so the market probably doesn't exist. Also, 12MP is more than enough for the general population. Look at Chris Hau's video comparing a 100MP medium format vs the A7S3 in print. Nobody could guess the cameras correctly. Lastly, higher megapixels means that the lenses must be sharper or have more resolving power, due to the higher pixel density, which results in more expensive lenses. Which is why a lot of micro four thirds lenses are far more expensive than full frame due to the pixel density. You would literally have to sell all your lenses and wait for new G-master tier quality lenses on APS-C to get the full benefit of your higher megapixel camera.

[@lukasdahm]

The a6600's menu hints at UHS-II support (in XAVC S 4K 25p 100M mode) and refuses to record to my UHS-I card in that mode. Does it make sense to get UHS-II cards for the a6600 anyway or why would they give us this option in the menu?

[@mirrorlessny]

if getting sd cards look into v90 rating, in case you get newer full frame camera in future & want to record in xavc s-i 4.2.2 10bit , mine ProGrade64gb v90 works good using a7s3

[@ryzenbiel4145]

Entry Lvl but so Expensive A7c :( hope Sony make a Budget Fullframe like RP Price. .. 😊

[@NickL0VIN]

Yeah, everyone's been waiting for a Sony FF for $1000! one day!

[@ryzenbiel4145]

@@NickL0VIN yeah for Photography never mind the video features hahaha 1080p 120fps is good to me even without 4K ... so everyone have chance to step up new FF budget camera by Sony.. .

[@NickL0VIN]

@@ryzenbiel4145 yeah. 90% of you-tubers are for video only. Seems like everything is for videographers now, nothing for photographers.

[@ryzenbiel4145]

@@NickL0VIN sadd hahaha

[@djremotion2]

I went from A5100 to A6400 and I just think that A5100 was much better camera. Not overtly complicated, 2/3:s of the weight, I dont need viewfinder at all, I get perfect photos without it. And at same iso and same shutter speed A6400 is just as shaky as A5100 and both cameras are useless from ISO 800 and up. A6400 has silent shutter that is absolutely useless because it ruins photos, as does the electronic curtain. IMho I never want to even go over ISO 100 or 200. I dream about A7C but it is just stupid expensive and lenses dont help.

[@arfazhoosein6274]

What would you recommend to a beginner photographer? Sigma trio or tamron 17-70mm?

[@RamonGrande]

As awesome as the sigma trio is, switching lenses is a real pain if you plan to shoot events (Thats also where you can make alot of money) If you do portraits, where you're not in a rush, the trio is great, but you get more usability out of the tamron. Reach too with the equivalent 105 max focal length

[@arfazhoosein6274]

@@RamonGrande Thanks man... Appreciate it... ✌️

[@JonathanAkosah]

@@arfazhoosein6274 You should at least try the sigma 56. I use it w/my a6400 for basketball and have great results, you could get it in addition to the tamron.

[@TECHSOME]

Does the a7c crop when switching from 4K24 to 4K30?

[@mirrorlessny]

yea and it makes sense since a7c is using a7iii tech with several additional improvements

[@AntonyGeorgeBoltzzz]

everyone and their mom talks about :D

[@mohammedmudassir36]

Can u pls review fujifilm xt3 or xt4 with Sony line up..want to shift to fuji for color science.. Thanks

[@JeffCorcelius]

I love my a6400. Just got the Tamron 17-70mm in the mail today! It really comes down to cost. Great comparison. If I was to upgrade (second camera) I'd probably go a6600 to keep with APSC so I can make my glass investments go further. Otherwise, with the A7c I'd be shooting in APSC mode.

[@paulclarke4571]

I agree heaps.

[@bjure8111]

Most people forget the cost of good fullframe lenses. I had fullframe for a long time but recently converted back to the aps-c system, which I felt had good enough IQ, but the lenses are soo much more affordable (and my main reason much smaller).

[@professionalpotato4764]

@@bjure8111 Isn't there a bunch of budget lenses for full frame too? I guess the quality wouldn't be top notch, but I think most people wouldn't notice. Personally I enjoy the weight savings of APS-C, but am enjoying zero cost savings :') *cries in fuji noises*

[@gwhite1612]

Great video. I totally appreciate your honesty about these cameras. APS-C deserves its place in the market. It's not all about FF.

[@מיכאלקונטרוביץ]

Hi Arthur, thank you very much for the excellent honest review. I own now only the a6000 with some Sony native apsc lenses, like the 50 f1.8, 16-70 f4 (somewhat disappointing lens), and 55-210. I use the camera pretty much for stills. If I want to record a video clip I will do it on my smartphone. So, I thought about moving to ff, but it is really expensive. Not only because of the camera itself, which I definitely prefer the A7iii over the A7C, because I think that for photography the A7iii suites much better. The problem is the cost of the ff lenses, especially the sony native, but also if I decide to go with the new Tamrons, like 17-28 and 28-75, it will cost me some fortune, and I also want a real telephoto and some fast primes. Now, if I finally stay with the apsc, I also want an upgrade, especially because the lack of ibis on the a6000, and also more modern autofocusing system on the recent Sony cameras. But I think that a6600 doesn't justify the current price... The main obstacle that prevent me from buying the excellent Sigma trio of lenses is the lack of stabilization...I have v e r y shaky hands and I don't want to use tripod or monopod all the time, I want to shoot handheld

[@FrattaTV]

Super happy with my a6400 and sigma trio (I personaly love my sigma 30mm f1.4)

[@willbrink]

This was the comparison vid I was looking for. I had a little bit of buyers remorse with the 6600 after seeing the A7C, but while the 7C is obviously superior in some aspects, I came away feeling the 6600 was the right choice for me, and probably will be for a long time.

[@ales_krejci]

Really neither, both overpriced, none making enough difference over my very old A6000. I am waiting for Sony to make a new generation of aps-c line with much better controls (cmon at least 3 rollers) and a decent stabilisation. If its not coming in 2021 I am probably jumping ship to fuji x-s10 as it has everything I desire for better price.

[@bamdevsharma3905]

I think buying A7C is better value for long term for me specially. I prefer zooms but I still want good lowlight and bokeh from the lens. I’d need a prime on APSC for that and it’s difficult to swap lenses and carry multiple primes. Whereas with A7C I’d be okay with f2.8 zoom lens which gives good lowlight as well as good bokeh without the need of carrying multiple primes and constantly switching them. I’d need many lenses on APSC which won’t make much price difference but I’d get much better camera as well as better quality lenses and much more easier to use specially for travel and run&gun uses in smaller package with just 1body&lens. The lens selection is larger on FF. For wide angles, there isn’t good lens choice on APSC either. I’m planning to buy the A7C with tamron 28-75 2.8 as my only gear which will be enough for my usage. 1800(A7C)+800(28-75 2.8)=$2600 ✅ $1300(A6600) +800(17-70 2.8) =$2300 + price of primes = nearly same as A7C but for worse camera&lenses

[@cweb1988]

I'm waiting for Sony to make a new APSC camera that AT LEAST matches the specs of the Xt4.

[@soholingo]

Good video comparison. I think you missed some important points: 1. The A7C can get good results with APSC lenses. 2. The camera and 28-60 lens are only $2000 3. The 28-60 is pretty sharp. 4. The LV-28RM flash works with the A7C and the 28-60 like a treat. 5. The focus of the A7C really is compactness with FF. That's the only real reason to get this camera. Keep up the good work, will be watchin (and when can we get that 16-55/2.8 on the A7C review?) :)

[@warrenbarnes9653]

I use an a6500. My primary lenses are the Sony 16-55mm f2.8G, the Sigma 30mm f1.4, the Sigma 56mm f1.4 and the Zeiss Batis 85mm f1.8. I like the results I get with this kit, which are about 80% still photography and 20% video. However, I am dissatisfied with Sony’s skin tones and would like about one F stop’s worth of better low light performance. So I would consider upgrading. But to what? The a6500 is the only Sony mirrorless body with both IBS and a built in flash, which I use frequently for fill lighting that is not overpowering. I cannot get both IBS and built in flash on any of the newer bodies. I would also like to continue to use my lenses. So I may purchase the a7riv and use it in crop mode, sacrificing the built in flash. This arguably has Sony’s best APS-C sensor, as well as outstanding full frame resolution and the new color science. But it is a major expenditure, so I am hesitating, while still obtaining fine results from the a6500. Maybe I don’t need to upgrade after all. Great video, Arthur. Do we really need the latest equipment?

[@camilomedina6239]

One thing you didn't mention is that you can use full frame lenses on an apsc cameras wich is awesome for future upgrades. But for beginners like me a 6100 is just enough. And the most important thing is how you use and understand the light a camera can't do anything without light, even if you have an A1 and Zeiss lenses.

[@jackstephenson5238]

​@Catalin A But if you plan to upgrade to full frame in the future, its better to just start with FF lenses.

[@pankajvermacs]

@Catalin A - I bought 90mm macro FF lens to use with A6400 and that lens is a beast in terms of sharpness. Sony (or any third party) doesn't have a good macro lens to use in APS-C.

[@adamzielinski8168]

@Arthur R thank you so much for youre job. I’m learning english from Your videos. You speak very clearly so I can learn to „hear” the English pronunciation. Of course - I interesed photography. Thanks Your videos I bought a Sigma C 30mm f/1.4, it’s really great lens.

[@LuisGGomezPhoto]

Arthur, thanks for your honest comparison. In my case, I have the a6000 and a6600, the latter I use with lenses that are not stabilized. But in the end, both of my cameras are phenomenal, I won't trade it for full-frame at this moment. I had all the 7r's, but I sold them. So long. and stay safe.

[@Saber422]

Great and I would like to wait your review of A7C+24105G and A6600+Tamron1770

[@MichTheo]

Great honest review/comparison. Still holding on to my a6000 though❤

[@rickt.8866]

Staying with my A6600, full frame is not cost effective as far as lenses go. The only justification is if I were doing photography as my main profession. I also have to much invested in E lenses like the Sony 70-350, Sony 18-105, Sigma 18-50 2.8, Sigma 16mm 1.4, and Sigma 56mm 1.4. I’m still leaning how to be a better photographer everyday and love my hobby!

[@GabrielGGabGattringer]

Really interesting comparison, thanks Arthur! Guess I'll stick with my old A6300 and "just" get better lenses (my desired SEL 70-350mm is still $800 after a year!) quite a chunk of money considering that the A6300 itself was that price back in 2018 when I got it.

[@paulclarke4571]

I have the 70-350 and you will not be disappointed

[@pankajvermacs]

70-350mm is a must lens for anyone having sony APS-C camera. I have it for nearly a year with my A6400. I have a kit lens and a macro lens apart from those. But 70-350 is my always to go lens in outdoor settings. You can do landscape with it, you can do portrait with it. With effective max focal length of 525mm, you can always do bird photography with it (I primarily use it for that purpose) and though its not a dedicated macro, you will not be disappointed with its performance even in that category if the object is not very tiny.

[@superteamvideo1930]

You forgot the boutique Zeiss and Leica lenses which have amazing sharp, yet smooth gentle defocussed transitions. If you are using regular zooms, then I would say no difference at all. Even if you print large (because of the same MP difference), there is no difference. I have an a6100 and an OG A7r. The A7r with Zeiss lense looks so much better than the a6100 with kit 12-60, but the 4k video on the a6100 is just amazing. For travel, I will probably stick with my a6100 with kit lense or get the Zeiss equivalent 16-70. I just went on a 2 week trip to Paris in the wintertime and only brought my Samsung S22 Ultra with 100MP mode and Ai photo enhancing. It was more than adequate. Even with a small sensor, the Ai (multiple low light merged shots) were not that grainy and all people shots have evenly lit faces. Ai also merged shots so that no skies were blown out. Plus, all my shots were available for sharing as soon as Google photos backed them up. I would say that an S22 Ultra is almost at the level of an RX100, but fits better in your pocket and I do have an RX100 1 and 5. I do wish I had brought my a6100 for capturing more printable shots, but looking at my S22 Ultra gallery, I don't find them lacking much at all. Actually, if I don't need 4k, (or ultra compactness), I should've brought my A7r clean 36MP with Zeiss lens for that smooth yet sharp shots that I wanted to take.

[@脳裏上のクラッカー]

Thanks for such a great video! One more physical difference worth mentioning: relocation of the video mode on the mode dial. Maybe a small change but this def saved my time as a hybrid shooter.

[@CycleFab]

I just bought an a6600 with the sony 16-55mm f2.8 over the a7c, a7iii because of the cost of the lenses. I'm upgrading from my phone (s20 ultra), which belive it or not, tought me basic photo and video points like lighting and some basic settings. It worked well for that, BUT, it's a phone cammera. And yeah, it's great for a camera that's on a phone but it couldn't possibly be as good as the camera I just bought...at least I hope not. Any way, thanks for another great video. Your guidance and knowledge is always helpful.

[@mirrorlessny]

if encountering dark environments consider one of Sigma's f1.4 lenses, it's 4x maximum light transmission, more bokeh too

[@CycleFab]

@@mirrorlessny If this all works for me I'll be getting the Sigma 56mm f1.4 next. Thanks.

[@iClevre]

A Full frame bsi sensor is such a better option for photography. I agree with the conclusion of not buying either camera and saving money on an older a6 model but that’s only if you’re trying to get the most specs for the least amount of money. Sony is a technology company first, and the technical improvements put inside the A7C make it very compelling, even at the retail price.

[@hellcraftofficial17]

The biggest issue with the a6100 in Australia is that they cost over $1,000AUD and I might as well pay the extra $200 and get the A6400 Body. The Sony A7III is still $2,000AUD (USED) At the least. Sony a6000 is worth $500-$700 on the used market still. So the Australian market is screwed. Sucks for me since I been wanting to switch to Sony for a bit now

[@itsjessewilson]

Honestly i agree man, the a6400 is a good go but for $550(on kogan atleast is the cheapest i can find it) more you get the a6600 which i can only justify buying with the real time video eye auto focus and it has a bigger grip, but still the pricing for all cameras is definitely a joke here in Australia and listening to the American pricing is crazy, like with the phone releases!

[@Reviews4fun1]

I only upgraded to the a6600 from my NEX6 for the autofocus and ibis. My APSC glass library is excellent and it’s all about the glass. I was looking at a realistic $4,000 to go full frame and I’m just a hobby photographer.

[@bondgabebond4907]

For a hobby and a little pro work, the a6600 is fantastic. I have it and the A7R3, which I love for it's 42 megapixel sensor. I can't see getting an expensive 24mp full frame body when the a6600 has a great 24mp sensor. It also has the great benefit of turning my 200-600mm zoom into a 300-900mm zoom. It's unreal. But the R3 is for things when I want the extra pixels but for most of the time, I grab my a6600. We fall for the hype too much today.

[@amermeleitor]

I want to learn photography as a hobby. I'm thinking about buy cheap Sony Nex cameras only for the lenses (16mm, 16-50mm, 18-55mm and 55-210mm) and a cheap Sony a6000, then sell the Nex cameras bodies cheaply. I think a Sony a6000 and four basic lenses are enough to learn.

[@joshuapark9796]

So many good points!!! I’ve been following this channel since Arthur’s first a6000 review. Currently owning both apsc and full frame, what I find limiting on Sony Apsc line-up is... lens choices. Full frame glass gets way more releases (including budget line-up) and it rendered apsc very disadvantageous even for the hobbyist.

[@RamonGrande]

Ahhhh I feel this! I feel like I have lenses I love for the a6600, but they don't seem future proof unless I stick with APSC forever. The nearly 60% MP loss you get hit with, when using an APSC lens on a FF body is not usable to me. I want to get the a7iv, and am very unsure about having a ton of lenses for the different bodies

[@TVe200]

Full frame lenses on APS-C can be great and bad. Full frame lenses will never be wide on APS-C. Sony's widest prime 20 mm end up as 30 on APS-C. The 16-55 f/2.8 is better on an a6600 than any full frame zoom. APS-C lenses on full frame is not a good idea. On A7III or A7C you end up with about 10 mp. A full frame 70-300 or 100-400 is exelent on APS-C. You end up with 105-450 or 150-600.

[@jdonalds2001]

APSC is a tradeoff decision. The one major advantage of FF is better low light performance. Frankly I just don't take many shots in low light. An APSC camera is less expensive, lighter, smaller, and the lenses are cheaper. I have a 6600 and 6400. I have no need or desire to move to FF.

[@oconobee]

Had an a6000 for 5 years before upgrading to the a6600. And after owning it for almost a year I think the only thing more I've gotten out of it is the better battery. If I could have got the a6100 or a6400 with the Z battery I'd be sorted. I still have my a6000 and it takes pictures just as well as the a6600 but going back to it you can really tell the difference in build quality. I may consider the A7 IV if it ever shows up but so far APS-C works well for me. I like the compact size, smaller lenses which are also lighter on the wallet compared to full frame

[@magunciero]

Same with me. I kept my a6000 as I upgraded to a6400. IMO, for landscapes, the a6000 is more versatile than the a6400 thanks to the menory apps acting as nd filter and the in camera timelapse video composer. A shame that Sony abandoned the apps .

[@nphotodotorg2690]

@@magunciero Can you please elaborate why the a6000 is a better camera for landscape than the a6400. I have the a6000, a6100 and Canon 80D. I am using the a6100 as my wildlife camera and I am using the 80D as a landscape camera. I would like to sell one of my cameras. Having hard time deciding. If the a6000 is good for landscape, I would like to stay with the Sony ecosystem.

[@magunciero]

@@nphotodotorg2690 sure. If you're are into landscape photography and you don't mind to carry around nd filters, stacking in post and thoroughly create 4k timelapses, the a6400 will do everything the a6000 does and much more. I consider however the nd filters memory apps for the a6000, a6300 and a6500 an incredible help: no vignetting, no color shift, no extra weight, works for sunny seaside landscapes and waterfalls. The a6300 is more convenient thanks to the silent shutter fully avoiding trepidation. I can't tell about the Canon. Give the apps a try. By registering the camera I was getting a couple of apps for free.

[@nphotodotorg2690]

@@magunciero Thank you so much!

[@anchorsanvils]

Love your honesty haha. The only thing sony needs to improve is the sensor on their own a6~~ series to unlock performances like those found on the X-T4, hell imo the X-T4 is better than the A7III, A7C and a6600. 10-bit can be handheld without having to run it through catalyst browser and sooc great colors in both photo and video.

[@TVe200]

One difference that you did not mention about the bad EVF of A7C, you can't put an eyecup on it. I use eyecup all the time. Otherwise your comparison was just purfect.

[@danielmiddleman8613]

After watching this video I want to look around and see how much I can get an a6600 for.

[@mirrorlessny]

there should be some good used deals around it's been out for a while, very good camera

[@agentieinu]

I really hope the next-gen of a6*** cameras have improved body or tech, but with none of the mistakes that Sony did with the A7C

[@akyerit]

What mistakes? Lol. The a7c is an amazing little beast of a camera. Sure it has its downfalls. But practically every camera does. It easily ticks off the majority of boxes for most including myself, and I've used a ton of different cameras/brands.

[@saifaldin_]

@@akyerit I personally think the 1/4000 max SS is a major step down from the A7iii’s 1/8000. Also, the shooting experience for stills are greatly hampered by the lack of physical controls and worse evf. For videos, yes it’s a major upgrade compared to the A7iii.

[@akyerit]

@@saifaldin_ well sure. The a7c is the video version of the a7iii basically. But as a street photographer/videographer it's amazing for me. Does all that and then some. Sure I have minor complaints and I dont disagree with you about the extra buttons etc. And I have mixed feelings about the swivel screen vs flippy. But I still couldn't be happier and I don't think you can fully appreciate one until you have one in your hands and really get to use it and experience how versatile and powerful of a little camera it truly is. Really nothing quite like it in the market, especially not at that price range

[@saifaldin_]

@@akyerit I agree that it could be the best option currently for certain use cases. I’ve tested it (although not extensively) and i found that it feels quite awkward for stills shooting. I’m sure the images produced are one of the best in the world right now; but there are a lot of things that irked me. The protrusion of the evf, the materials used (especially on the grip), and the overall tactile feel of this body kept me away from considering it. The A6600 feels nicer in hand to shoot with, although i have to say, the launch prices of both these cameras are too high for what we’re getting.

[@akyerit]

@@saifaldin_ ya it really does feel cheap and plasticky haha. Especially in comparison to the a7iii or the sigma fp, which I owned right before the a7c. But over time any of those little things that may have irked me are practically non existent now, based on the pure output and thoughtful ease of use. It really does all the things that I could ever possibly wish any camera would have ever done for me. If the sigma fp had ibis and better auto focus I probably would have kept it. Feels and looks, and in some small ways performs so much nicer than the a7c. But I have no regrets now and haven't looked back. But hey I'm not by any means trying to convince you or anyone else to grab it. Just standing up for it because I feel like it's for some crazy reason, gotten a bad rap, even though it's one of the most useful/versatile and powerful little cameras to date. My levels have gone WAY up since procuring it

[@UlySambrano]

I honestly agree people need to upgrade their skills before upgrading cameras haha especially getting an expensive camera just to vlog 😅 😂 I have an A6000 still and have shot some weddings and other videos, and I get people thinking I've used a more expensive camera

[@AJCoReTV]

Great now I can’t sleep until I watch this.... I just ordered an A7C yesterday. Will be making my A6100 a B cam now.

[@NickL0VIN]

I sold both my a7 III and a6600 for the a7C. I want an a6100 for my B cam however it's still expensive used (i'm hoping to find it for $450-$500 on BH edu discount like it was last year!).

[@neogod29]

Step 1. Know your budget. Don't buy FF if you don't have the budget for it. Step 2. Know what you're going to use it for. Like you said, if you are just looking to take family pictures or vacation pics, APS-C is just fine. If you are trying to make a business out of it, then go FF. But in may opinion, if video is not your priority, don't buy the A7C. At is the worst choice for photography. An A7iii would be better or a used A7Rii, if you can find one cheap enough.

[@Mayadude66]

I've been happy with my APSC Sonys for years The only reason I would consider switching to Full Frame is resolution. So If I still only get 24 MP with the A7C....I'm sory. That's just not good enough. If it had more pixels I would definately consider the switch.

[@Michaelkjensen]

It's a little funny that you don't say Anny thing about the crop factor, if you bye a 200-600 lence then you have a 200-600 on the a7c but on the a6600 you will have a 300-900 lense

[@hecull2]

You didn't tell the full story when talking about low light performance. Take those low light images from both cameras and bump the exposure considerably in Lightroom. The A7C will have much more discernable detail in the shadows with considerably less noise. The lower noise and better dynamic range of full frame cameras can be very useful to some photographers. That being said, I 100% agree that aps-c is the better option for for 90% of today's still photographers. The manufacturers and their associated influencers and fans want to tell you that it's full frame or nothing. I contend that good pictures come from good photographers shooting good subjects with adequate gear. An a6000 with the Sigma trio and the 70-350 G will cost less in total than many full frame bodies alone, and will cover almost anything a photographer wants to shoot. Add in a 10-18, the Tamron 17-70, and Tamron 70-180 and you have a very complete kit. I shudder to think of how much it would cost if all that gear was FF.

[@vvlad78]

Expected much more difference in image quality between FF and Aps-c sensors..

[@ArthurR]

I was very surprised by the two Tamron lenses producing the exact same results (minus bokeh) on two different sensors.

[@supermarkomarkomarko]

Super video, thanks to You, I'm staying with my beautiful silver a6300

[@Wyoutside]

I love the snark

[@jacktsaibr]

Damn you stand out of the youtubers crowd. Lucid, realistic, honest reviews. Keep up the awesome work

[@orphanuprising]

The reason people are pushing full frame is because that's where the market is going unfortunately. Crop sensors are slowly but surely getting phased out, and while its not a big deal, people dont want to be invested in a dead system.

[@jackengels5077]

"I like this camera as much as I like Gamestonk" - Arthur 2021

[@frankfeng2701]

Sounds like Elon Musk of camera review.

[@jeffhalebopp]

Can you completely and exclusively power the a7c thru usb3 port for unlimited recording time? Or do you have to have a battery in and use the usb3 port at the same time only to have the battery slowly lose its charge as you record? Does the little charging power brick that comes with the camera sufficient to power the camera for recording? Thanks for you help.

[@harrylew]

I like how you're getting a bit more edgy with age. And your advice is spot-on.

[@KlipsenTube]

I decided on the A6600 when I got tired of the AF on my NEX-7. I hesitated because of the new battery, that would make my existing batteries obsolete, considering the A6400 instead. I bought a spare battery with the camera, but, unlike with the NEX and my old A900, I rarely need to worry about changing batteries. The deciding factor was IBIS that also works with my A-mount lenses - in combination with the LA-EA5 adapter. The A7C is 50 % dearer - and lens lust would set in immediately. What I need is a Sony speed booster to take advantage of wide angle A-mount lenses on APS-C.

[@matthews357]

Is there any performance difference in the raw files? I own the A6600 and have been wondering if Full Frame raw files are the same as APSC. For example, recovering shadows?

[@NickL0VIN]

I found recovering shadows on the a7C a little better than the a6600

[@matthews357]

@@NickL0VIN hmm...only a little. Sounds like my next investment should be better lens then.

[@NickL0VIN]

@@matthews357 Usually lens makes a bigger difference. Hopefully someone else chimes in too. I only saw a little difference when recovering shadows and highlights, it didn't blow me away or anything. Of course it's my opinion, maybe someone else will think it's vastly different?

[@D3LANYO22]

also i hated using 3 inch touch screen phones i would HATE using the touchscreen aside from focusing on this a7c for the shallow grip i will be putting a cage on it

[@FireMatePhotographic]

Another great video, as always! I love a lot of things about the a7C, but the one thing keeping me away from it and sticking to my larger full frame bodies and the a6600 is the shutter. The a7C doesn’t have an option for a fully mechanical shutter, it’s electronic first curtain only. Higher shutter speeds can mess up bokeh (and they warn about it in the manual). High speed sync with flashes can cause banding, LED lighting indoors can cause even more banding, and so on. There’s times when I really need to switch over to the fully mechanical shutter and if it’s not there as an option, that knocks the a7C out for me.

[@NDSiXL]

APS-C is just as good and yes better glass. I started out with compact cameras then went up to an APS-C and then full frame. APS-C is good enough for the average person to take good pictures. For me I'm an artist and I feel I need the most information I can get out of a camera. There are visual differences using a full frame over an APS-C and this video has covered it already. The differences lies in pixel peeping and more light for shallower depth of field. The differences is minimum and not even noticeable unless putting it side by side. Also when you post them on social media, your images get compressed to the point it doesn't even matter

[@bruzzofilms6834]

I agree with everything you say! I use a6400 a6500 and a6600 for my photography and video work, and where if I really already notice that it is necessary to go to full frame it is especially in the photos since from 800 iso it is quite noticeable when editing the grains, in video it is less Notorious even up to 3200 iso, for that reason and only for that reason I will go to a full frame, because it does not offer better quality in general. The example of your photo comparison is the real difference that nobody shows, those grains, when editing the photo and making a crop are very powerful. I hope the google translator did a good job on my comment haha !! Greetings from Paraguay.

[@mirrorlessny]

yea in low light full frame is visibly better, I did several tests with full frame vs apsc the difference is easy to see

[@TerabitTech]

Here in Italy prices are all over the place. I bought the a6100 body-only new for just over 700€, and the Sigma 30mm F/1.4, Sigma 16mm F/1.4 and Helios 44. I think I'm gonna stick with it for a long time, but I'm probably start buying full-frame lenses from now on, so that I have an upgrade path to the a7C II or the a7IV/a7 V when I decide to upgrade the body. For now, between all the lockdowns, I'm finding hard to use the camera for what I originally intended to. The a7C is basically an a7 III with some downgrades, which is basically why I consider it overpriced. IMHO the Canon Rp is still the better buy for full-frame photographers on a budget, with the 50mm 1.8. The whole a6xxx series is getting old, as it's still using an aging body design, terrible viewfinders and old senors.

[@weisun6621]

I appreciate you disclosed the camera and lens for making this particular video, so I know the video effect is actually not bad at all!!

[@carlosbarbosa5821]

Nice. Job. Thank you.

[@stang8913]

10:26 I believe the difference is big in low light, but Im still hanging on my A6600

[@Away.Aweigh.A.Way.]

This is a stellar review but the most important part of it is the last bit. People are so caught up in the newest thing - I’m certainly not immune - but newest doesn’t necessarily mean best. Personally, I’m looking for something for backpacking, so I need a camera that’s compact and light, performs well in low light, is weather sealed, and has great battery. So for me, the a6600 makes a lot of sense over something like the a6100, even though it’s double the price. I think most people don’t need those features though and I admire that you took the effort to point that out. I think I’m pretty settled on my choice, though I think I’ll wait until next month (July 2023) for the a6700 to be announced so that the secondary market for the a6600 hopefully drops a bit. Thanks for the video. Subbed.

[@DavidTpitCabrera]

And that´s the answer, good job man.

[@MariuszStankiewicz]

I want to upgrade from my Canon M50 to sth from Sony realm. Wanted to go with A7C + Tamron 17-28mm, but now I'm bit stuck. I'm mainly a vlogger (this new camera will be my reward for making my next 20 vids). I shoot photos only for thumbnails, but I'm gonna work on my photography skills. Still, I'm using camera for shooting vids mainly. M50 is pretty annoying when it comes to: battery life and battery/memory card slot (have to unscrew the whole gorillapod or other tripod to replace battery or memory card) and low light conditions and weak mic preamp in camera, not to mention 30min max record time.

[@mirrorlessny]

a7c+17-28 is strong pick for vlogging, I would try to stretch for a7iv because of active ibis & 10bit, but a6600 is also good option

[@MariuszStankiewicz]

@@mirrorlessny thx! I was considering A7IV but after watching some reviews I changed my mind. Cant really remember why, in the end conclusion was its overpriced for what it offers. A6600 is without flipout screen and I have some reservations to investing into apsc lenses…