A Detailed Sony A7C vs Sony A6600 Comparison

[@GregerBurman]

You're about the only camera review channel for hobbyists that's still sane. Thank you.

[@jorgensen8]

Ditto here on the a6000. Haven't found a real reason to upgrade. Then again I don't use it that much, especially with travel restrictions.

[@alexhall9450]

The thing that’s held me back from Sony apsc is the single memory card slot. Too much of a risk to use it for professional work.

[@PieterBreda]

@@alexhall9450 I can understand that. I am an amateur. It als socks losing pictures but there is no loss of income.

[@alexhall9450]

@@PieterBreda I do wedding photography. The a6600 is defiantly good enough but the small risk of an sd card corrupting is too big for me. Think it’s a brilliant camera though.

[@GregerBurman]

I understand that you can't risk SD card corruption. But for $4000+ I don't want 2 card slots, I want a fast internal SSD like any smartphone.

[@Felipe2077tv]

You probably hear this a lot, but you're one of my favourite reviewers. You seem to have very little bias, often blunt about your opinions (such as saying stick with the equipment you got), you don't use click-baity titles, and you actually talk about negatives all the time!!! So few reviewers (especially for camera equipment) point out and show the negatives about products!!! Thank you for this top notch quality, and I hope you keep it up. Live long and prosper.

[@randolphwaterman1020]

There is a difference between the two focal coverage patterns. The apc; crop is smaller coverage than the full frame A7c.

[@harishkiran3663]

@@randolphwaterman1020 Get a wider one then!

[@TarekJellali]

I was this close to selling my A6000, 16-50 kit, 55-200 and 50f1.8 just to get some money and add more for an A7C. Your words convinced me again that I don't need FF. Thank you man you're the best!

[@pinkflairgirl]

I went from an a6500 to an a7riv last year, and I haven’t looked back. For me and what I photograph, the better high ISO performance and eye autofocus were game changers. But I loved my a6500 and my a6000 before that and would recommend an APS-C to most of my hobbyist friends, especially now that Tamron has that all-in-one f/2.8 zoom. Thanks for the informative video!

[@NiqHowie]

I had both the a6000 and an a6500, this week I finally parted with my a6500, and my sigma lenses, so I could purchase an a7iii. So now I need to rebuild my lens kit. As of now I’m only using my tamron 28-75 f2.8. I REALLY wanted an a7c but got a killer deal on a used a7iii that I couldn’t pass up!

[@jujuuu1]

what do you photograph and why is it so important to you to go full frame in comparison to your friends? I’m really interested, because I’m only a hobby photographer and use an a6000 and I’m really annoyed by the autofocus and the colors of the pictures sometimes. But since I’m not that strong, I really like the light weight of my setup. Also, fullframe is really expensive

[@henrybrandis5455]

Excellent review. I upgraded from a a6400 to an a6600 because I needed the IBIS, and I'm very happy with it. I decided against the A7c because of the cost of full frame lenses. Your review covered all the bases, and confirmed my decision.

[@Kekster3000]

Tbh, from personal experience, IBIS in a6600 is really not that great. I mean, it's better than nothing (in most conditions), but I was really SURPRISED that stabilization in my old 2012 low budget a37 is noticeably better than in 2019 main line a-series camera. And it's day and night in lower light conditions. Regretted not just going for a cheaper ZV-E10 without any IBIS but with gyro data, or for 6500 and a gimbal at least

[@Latiosx123]

I came here for a camera comparison, stayed till the end to get education

[@FlipperInc]

As a beginner, i went with a used original A7. Thought that I'd get full frame to start building a lens collection to eventually upgrade body, but for now, really happy with the oldie first gen A7

[@SourPlanet]

Wish I saw this kinda comment more often. Cameras have been *very good* for a long time now. Latest and greatest is rarely needed. When I wanted to try mirrorless after decades of Nikon DSLRs.. I picked up an original A6000 for $225. Used it for two years and then swapped over to the A7C once I knew exactly what I needed. That A6000 netted me thousands of great shots and never held me back.

[@superteamvideo1930]

I still have my A7r and that full frame sensor is so highly detailed, you need to pair it with a better than general purpose lense. The thing is, only full frame primes are compact. The zooms not so much.

[@jatin.c]

I got a6300 after watching your reviews. Most of my friends own a7iii. But I'm happy with what my camera can do and how it can help me with my workflow. The autofocus is way better than a7iii and always silent. Battery isn't great. But I'm fine with it. At the end of the day no one cares what you're shooting with, rather what you're shooting and how good it could be produced and presented. Thanks for your honest reviews man. Always love the Mafia channel 👻⭐

[@MarwanRashad]

I spent a month comparing cameras until i finally decided to buy the a6600 over full frame cameras. The deciding factor for me was the weight. Full frame lenses usually weigh double as much as APSC lenses. I know from experience if my camera gear is too heavy I'll just leave it at home, never take it on trips and use my phone instead. I highly recommend people to add the weight of the lenses before making a decision. example: A7 III + 24-105 f/4 = 1313 grams A6600 + 16-55 f/2.8 = 997 grams you can almost add an a6100 to that and weigh the same

[@RealNightFuryX]

A7C + 24-105 = 1195 grams.... but yes, apsc is slightly lighter

[@SolarPowerChannelwithChris]

I hear you, I was in Vietnam just before Covid, I was in the north. The people there are poor, swinging about a full frame it catches peoples eye. The smaller apsc camera I find you don't draw attention and more likely to vlog. I also used my osmo action when it was busy.

[@giovanniprado3887]

not a big difference. try a7c + 28 70 sigma

[@agentdanieltaylor4071]

Iove small too, but a7c can use crop lenses super well, so i think i want to ditch my a6400 to get more iso, free motion screen, better battery, and higher usable iso especially in video

[@רביבמיוחס]

I used to have an A7II for six years. Replaced it to A6400 about 2 years ago and I am very happy. Especially zoom lenses are smaller and lighter, and the difference with F1.4 primes is huge. I shoot street photography and a small sized camera and lenses is a great benefit, especially because of visibility, not only weight.

[@ajmalbanoo]

Thanks for such a well balanced video

[@sibangjack]

Your channel is the reason why I'm still using a6000. I remember when I was searching for my first camera, youtube suggested your video about why you're switching to a6000 and your channel back then was Technology Mafia. It's good to see people isn't forgetting about the a6000 series. Yeah many people said full frame will give you this, will give you that, full frame is better than crop sensor, etc. But for me as a hobbyist, a6000 is still enough, just slap some great prime lenses like Sony 35mm/50mm f1.8 OSS or Sigma trio f1.4 and you're ready to go.

[@JoeSzilagy]

I think the a6000 is still one of the most popular and highly-recommended cameras in the world.

[@BrianTheCameraGuy]

Great job as always Arthur. I love how you stick to the APS-C. I give you a ton of credit. Bravo

[@richardmn4698]

Dude, I appreciate your honesty so much. Thanks for this.

[@soholingo]

Good video comparison. I think you missed some important points: 1. The A7C can get good results with APSC lenses. 2. The camera and 28-60 lens are only $2000 3. The 28-60 is pretty sharp. 4. The LV-28RM flash works with the A7C and the 28-60 like a treat. 5. The focus of the A7C really is compactness with FF. That's the only real reason to get this camera. Keep up the good work, will be watchin (and when can we get that 16-55/2.8 on the A7C review?) :)

[@k.whiking4372]

Thank you for your honest comparison review. I have an A6400 I use for hiking and had thought about an A7C, but yes your totally correct it doesn't stop at just the body, you need the lenses to go with it.

[@aMildCow]

i dug myself down some crazy camera rabbit hole and im not even a camera person but now youre one of my favorite youtubers

[@TheCameraManReviews]

Excellent video Arthur. Got me a 6400. I cant afford the Full Frame glass to move up to FF.

[@jpr-tech]

Thanks for the honest truth! I recently switched to the APSC FUJIFILM X-H1 from the Sony a7s. I haven’t looked back! - same price as an a6x00 ($600 mint) - ibis - 4k - film simulation - weather sealing - great handling But nothing can replace practice.

[@מיכאלקונטרוביץ]

Hi Arthur, thank you very much for the excellent honest review. I own now only the a6000 with some Sony native apsc lenses, like the 50 f1.8, 16-70 f4 (somewhat disappointing lens), and 55-210. I use the camera pretty much for stills. If I want to record a video clip I will do it on my smartphone. So, I thought about moving to ff, but it is really expensive. Not only because of the camera itself, which I definitely prefer the A7iii over the A7C, because I think that for photography the A7iii suites much better. The problem is the cost of the ff lenses, especially the sony native, but also if I decide to go with the new Tamrons, like 17-28 and 28-75, it will cost me some fortune, and I also want a real telephoto and some fast primes. Now, if I finally stay with the apsc, I also want an upgrade, especially because the lack of ibis on the a6000, and also more modern autofocusing system on the recent Sony cameras. But I think that a6600 doesn't justify the current price... The main obstacle that prevent me from buying the excellent Sigma trio of lenses is the lack of stabilization...I have v e r y shaky hands and I don't want to use tripod or monopod all the time, I want to shoot handheld

[@EmmanuelOkorie]

The last part of this video is most definitely the kind of advice we should be giving to people who are starting out in photography. At the end of the day, photos are only as good as the photographer who understands his camera. Like you, I am quite a bit disappoint at the number of youtubers who started with an APS-C and for some reason just decided on the full frame bandwagon claiming its the be all and end all of photography. Glad to see that you are still an APS-C shooter... Long may it remain that way...

[@yohanchoi2418]

refreshing review. Appreciate the honesty.

[@joshuapark9796]

So many good points!!! I’ve been following this channel since Arthur’s first a6000 review. Currently owning both apsc and full frame, what I find limiting on Sony Apsc line-up is... lens choices. Full frame glass gets way more releases (including budget line-up) and it rendered apsc very disadvantageous even for the hobbyist.

[@RamonGrande]

Ahhhh I feel this! I feel like I have lenses I love for the a6600, but they don't seem future proof unless I stick with APSC forever. The nearly 60% MP loss you get hit with, when using an APSC lens on a FF body is not usable to me. I want to get the a7iv, and am very unsure about having a ton of lenses for the different bodies

[@TVe200]

Full frame lenses on APS-C can be great and bad. Full frame lenses will never be wide on APS-C. Sony's widest prime 20 mm end up as 30 on APS-C. The 16-55 f/2.8 is better on an a6600 than any full frame zoom. APS-C lenses on full frame is not a good idea. On A7III or A7C you end up with about 10 mp. A full frame 70-300 or 100-400 is exelent on APS-C. You end up with 105-450 or 150-600.

As always, a really good summary of Sony FF vs APS-C. Fits me perfectly as I’m somewhere inbetween A6600 and A7C. I have the A7C already but.... by some of the reasons you mention, I miss my A6500. Might be that I go back to APS-C... it feels like price/performance/lenses fits better to my needs. Thanks for a great comparison.

[@adamzielinski8168]

@Arthur R thank you so much for youre job. I’m learning english from Your videos. You speak very clearly so I can learn to „hear” the English pronunciation. Of course - I interesed photography. Thanks Your videos I bought a Sigma C 30mm f/1.4, it’s really great lens.

[@brianfong5711]

Meanwhile in A6000 land, we are still using the A6000.

[@MrG0olden]

I'm awaiting the next APS-C generation, 4k60 and the good stuff

[@royhobbs785]

Me too

[@richardmn4698]

X2

[@mirrorlessny]

I started with cellphone, then gopro6 & only then got a6000 👍 it's a popular camera for a good reason

[@limpfishyes]

same, it's taken me 7 years to figure out the menu and the 35mm 1.8 has never been off since I bought it.

[@kiamaz254]

This review just made me sub!! Common sense reviewer for once , super detailed, straight to the point and not pushing the usual YT consumerism penchant!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@alexrowland]

I can't tell you how perfect the timing was for this video! I originally purchased the a6100, and upgraded to the 7C a few weeks ago. I've been really unhappy with the 7C and wanting to return it and go back to the 6000 series (probably the a6400), but I only have 7 days left to return it, and I've been waffling a lot and paralyzing myself with too _much_ research. This made the decision so much easier! THANK YOU!!!

[@JS_72020]

What did you not like about the A7C?

[@alexrowland]

@@JS_72020 I answered this with a comment under Arthur's video titled: "Sony A7 vs A7II vs A7III vs A7C: A Buying Guide" I'll just copy and paste it below: "TL;DR: The A7C isn't worth it, and I had a horrible experience with mine. I just want to add my experience with the A7C (I use a camera for 50% photography and 50% videography (live streaming church services every Sunday)). I started out with the A6100, then started getting full-frame envy so I looked into the A7III and A7SIII. When I saw the A7C, I was in love! The specs were perfect for what I needed, and the live eye-tracking for video really appealed to me. I sold off my A6100, APS-C lenses, and all the accessories I'd collected for it. From day 1, the A7C gave me problems. During the first live-stream, I noticed severe auto-focusing problems. The camera would randomly start to focus-breath, and at times it would even lock onto the mic in front of the person speaking (and I triple confirmed that face/eye auto-focus was enabled). We're talking about a person standing still in front of a podium, maybe 10 feet away, so there's no excuse for poor auto-focus. Amazon gave me 30 days until I had to return it, and I kept it until day 29, desperately messing with settings, trying to diagnose the auto-focus issues. It just didn't make sense that an $800 camera was blowing a $1,800 camera out of the water. I ended up going with the A6400 instead, and last Sunday I was able to fully test it during a live-stream. All the sudden my auto-focusing issues were gone, and it was locking onto faces just like I expected it to. I also want to mention I took the A7C on a hike and even using it for still frame photography, I missed focus on at least 1/3 my shots while I was looking directly at someone's face (I should also mention I was using a native Sony lens for this and the live-streaming). Maybe I simply had a faulty camera, but for my money, after using both systems, having full-frame for an extra $1k just isn't worth it, especially when the actual photo and video capabilities of the A6400 are virtually identical. EDIT: One last thing. If you're like me and currently use one of the A6000 series cameras, but the siren call of full-frame is tempting you purely for the fact that it's full-frame and that's what "real" photographers use, don't buy into that crap! A pro with an APS-C camera will always beat an amateur with a full-frame. Your experience and glass are so much more important than the size of your sensor! Arthur has shown that time and time again. Unless you have an actual, tangible reason for requiring full-frame, save your money and buy some more lenses for your current camera."

[@JS_72020]

@@alexrowland thanks!

[@alexrowland]

@@JS_72020 No problem! I lost so much time and money selling off my A6100 and all it’s accessories/glass that I’ll gladly help anyone stay away from the A7C!!

[@post8248]

Your channel has the best reviews!! Bought the Sony a6400 even knowing it has a couple years, and its a great camera. Honestly, don't feel the need to go full frame, its better invest in lenses.

[@scottw1174]

A fantastic video, still new to the sony line of cameras, i went from a5000 to the a6400, i so far have the sigma 16mm and the sony 18-105 lenses, planning on buying this week the sigma 30mm and the sony 70-350, the one thing i wish the a6400 had was better battery life

[@robodobo222]

Thanks Arthur. Non biased review. I've owned many full frame and aps-c cameras, and still love to use the aps-c for most uses. I get sick of reviews saying "upgrade" to full frame, it drives me nuts.

[@phucmapvlog]

I watched quite a few comparison videos to get to this point, I wish I would’ve just seen this one first...

[@HienNguyen-in6rr]

chào Phúc mập nha

[@TiagoLacerra]

OMG you also here! I love you!

[@FoxxDaBest]

Just wanted to say thanks for your contribution over time on your channel. I "jumped" for an APS-C Sony after being out of photography for many years and finding your channel has been a great help. I agree that many YT channels are quite relentless in pushing full frame as "the best" but truth be told, APS-C is more than good enough for anyone not earning their living from their camera. Your channel helps me manage the buyer's regret other channels try to impress on me so I'm very grateful for that. It's taken a few months but I now feel "adjusted" and not prone to laying down another few thousand dollars on another body in some vain attempt to keep up.

[@mirrorlessny]

I think apsc is going to thrive, Tamron made two good apsc lenses 11-20mm & 17-70mm, now they are coming out with 18-300mm apsc lens, that's like 28mm-450mm in full frame world

[@Dangler83]

I'm glad I found this channel. As a past Canon guy, I started with a crop body (30D) and moved up to a full frame (5D mkii). I only went full frame because I came across an amazing deal. I'm not a professional by any means, so my use was mostly still shots. After time behind the 5d mkii, I didn't care much for it. Sure it had it's advantages over the 30D, but for the content I was shooting, my audience couldn't see the difference. It was big and heavy and cumbersome to take with my on trips. It sat in a bag for a few years and eventually was sold off to fund one of my other hobbies. I've been using my cellphone since and it's fine, but recently had a my first kid and now wish I had something better. I was about to jump back into a full frame, but the 6600 seems like the better fit for what I plan on using it for. The fact that video tech has come so far along since my 5d kmii, I'll use the A6600 way more and be more inclined to bring it out with me.

[@IndianPolish]

What an amazing review. Been using the a6600 since the time I started KZbin 2 years back and the only complaint I have ok actually 2 are the stabilisation being not that great and the lack of a good wide angle lens. Seems like the a7c will be my next camera. This was an amazing comparison dude. 🙏

[@LuisGGomezPhoto]

Arthur, thanks for your honest comparison. In my case, I have the a6000 and a6600, the latter I use with lenses that are not stabilized. But in the end, both of my cameras are phenomenal, I won't trade it for full-frame at this moment. I had all the 7r's, but I sold them. So long. and stay safe.

[@rvg1997]

I shoot FF for wildlife but still keep my A6500 plus 10-18, 18-135, 16-50, 70-350G when I want to go light or shoot time lapse. Great comparison and enjoy all your videos.

[@paulhendershott667]

My heart stopped when you started rubbing the sensors!!! Lol!!!

[@NickL0VIN]

lol. Sensors are very, very hard to scratch (see Arthur R's sensor video). I use to cringe too!

[@larswara2124]

Me too! :-)

[@mytube2013]

@@NickL0VIN but may leave dust on it?

[@NickL0VIN]

@@mytube2013 yeah there’s always dust on it, wish Sony had a dust cover for their lower end cameras.

[@GregBrecker]

Thank you for slicing through the ad noise. Your logic, in the context of use, function, and cost is totally transparent and appreciated. I’ve recently purchased an open box excellent a6400 at $734, and a 16-55 f2.8 G at $1,175, both Sony. While I’ve only had it for a short time., I think it will expand what I can do quite a bit. Both based on your recommendations in previous videos. Also being able to use a lot of the more entry level lenses, batteries, etc. from my 8 year old a6000 will be helpful. Again thank you.

[@weisun6621]

I appreciate you disclosed the camera and lens for making this particular video, so I know the video effect is actually not bad at all!!

[@j16m02]

While I watch a lot of KZbinrs, honestly, your channel is the only one that's consistently relevant to me. So, thanks for that. I think you did as good a job as possible unpacking the APSC/ FF conundrum. I shoot A6600 and A7R III and constantly struggle with choosing one or the other. The A7C has made this an even harder decision. If I look at the A6600 with the Sony 16-55/2.8, or Tamron 17-70/2.8 and the A7C with either the Tamron 28-75 or the Tamron 28-200, all 4 combinations are within like 3oz of each other. Tough choices 'b

[@jacktsaibr]

Damn you stand out of the youtubers crowd. Lucid, realistic, honest reviews. Keep up the awesome work

[@reboot7507]

This channel helped me a lot in choosing my first camera the A6000. Saved a lot of money. It's awesome with the kit lens for my use. Now I have the budget to get a good lens.

[@aliensarefromspace]

Asa novice photographer i appreciate the larger battery, the autofocus and IBIS of my 6600, and honestly, for me it's worth it. Not planning on upgrading anytime soon.

[@KlipsenTube]

I decided on the A6600 when I got tired of the AF on my NEX-7. I hesitated because of the new battery, that would make my existing batteries obsolete, considering the A6400 instead. I bought a spare battery with the camera, but, unlike with the NEX and my old A900, I rarely need to worry about changing batteries. The deciding factor was IBIS that also works with my A-mount lenses - in combination with the LA-EA5 adapter. The A7C is 50 % dearer - and lens lust would set in immediately. What I need is a Sony speed booster to take advantage of wide angle A-mount lenses on APS-C.

[@ezhilkin]

I almost had a heart-attack when you touched sensors

[@danfernandogaming1851]

same

[@Away.Aweigh.A.Way.]

This is a stellar review but the most important part of it is the last bit. People are so caught up in the newest thing - I’m certainly not immune - but newest doesn’t necessarily mean best. Personally, I’m looking for something for backpacking, so I need a camera that’s compact and light, performs well in low light, is weather sealed, and has great battery. So for me, the a6600 makes a lot of sense over something like the a6100, even though it’s double the price. I think most people don’t need those features though and I admire that you took the effort to point that out. I think I’m pretty settled on my choice, though I think I’ll wait until next month (July 2023) for the a6700 to be announced so that the secondary market for the a6600 hopefully drops a bit. Thanks for the video. Subbed.

[@stefpix]

Thank you, I agree with so much of what you say. I shoot mostly with the A6100 w/ 16-55mm 2.8 and Sigma 1.4 primes. I tried the A7C at B&H, I could not believe how bad the viewfinder was. I ended up buying as full frame the Nikon Z5, I am really happy with. It has a great EVF, and I have been using to with vintage MF 50mm lenses like the Pancolar and the Helios. My main gripes with the A6100 is the small. low quality EVF, the Auto ISO without minimum shutter speed. Otherwise it is great. I find the Nikon has much more pleasant colors RAW and video, feels great in the hand, lens are great and cheaper than Sony's lenses, and the stabilization is pretty good. Sony for sure has more reliable eye AF that works in all modes. But in general shooting with Nikon is a more relaxed and pleasant experience. On the A6100 I set one of the front custom buttons to shoot video, so it solves the problem of the awkward position. All these cameras are good enough to create great content. Since I enjoying taking photos, the big viewfinder is really important to have a nicer experience. The A7C feels like I am peeping into a keyhole or a pipe. Sony could give many firmware upgrades to the A7iii

[@javierescarabajal508]

Heyy really nice video!👍 do you think that in the near future we will have an apsc with more megapixels and a bigger sensor??

[@NickL0VIN]

I guarantee it! I'm guessing end of this year or 2022

[@professionalpotato4764]

More megapixels, unlikely. Bigger sensor, no. APS-C is a fixed format size so it's not going to deviate much from the 1.5x crop size. 24MP is a pretty good sweet spot between photo and video performance. The people who need the extra megapixels for print (or other industries) would be going full-frame or medium format so the market probably doesn't exist. Also, 12MP is more than enough for the general population. Look at Chris Hau's video comparing a 100MP medium format vs the A7S3 in print. Nobody could guess the cameras correctly. Lastly, higher megapixels means that the lenses must be sharper or have more resolving power, due to the higher pixel density, which results in more expensive lenses. Which is why a lot of micro four thirds lenses are far more expensive than full frame due to the pixel density. You would literally have to sell all your lenses and wait for new G-master tier quality lenses on APS-C to get the full benefit of your higher megapixel camera.

[@ArkCullberg]

I have both 6400 and A7RIII. I love 6400 - use it most of the time With Sony 70-350!

[@pankajvermacs]

A6400 with 70-350 is probably the best combo for outdoor shooting in APS-C segment. I'll go to the extent saying that unless one is a professional one probably doesn't even need a third lens apart from 70-350 and one 50mm prime.

[@jackhaddow9785]

I bought an a6000 back in 2015 as my first real camera and then bought the a7rii 18 months later. Full frame at that resolution can at times be like two cameras in one as its apsc crop still gives you 18 megapixels. This is useful for taking photos in the outdoors where you might want an ultra light setup or the ability to crop in using a sharp full frame lens. The BSI sensor also seems to open up a lot more options in post, particularly when you want to recover shadows. Lastly, I'm a real fan of the full frame Loxia lenses which periodically turn up at bargain basement prices on the NZ version of eBay (probably because our country is too small to have a properly liquid market for such things). The a7rii is popping up at very cheap prices now too and, while it does have some shortcomings, they've never got in the way of good shot.

[@ShaneBethlehem]

Fantastic comparison, super reasonable approach to the topic with great examples to back it up

[@NoteAndroid]

After 2 yrs of on and off researching on Google and KZbin. I think your review is one of the most honest in my opinion. I'm keeping my A6000 with its kit lens and add another Tamron 28-75mm or 17-28mm. I only use camera to take pictures in Europe anyway. Since Delta variant still in the air, and I'm not going to Europe. I'll wait for another 2yrs later to pick up A7c for a lower cost. Thank you for a honest and "true to budget" review.

[@RemlichtFilm]

It is a breath of fresh air to hear you talk sense.

[@thesaint1517]

Great video. Really enjoyed your comments on both cameras. The best part is that you didn't try to push either one of them as opposed to many youtubers drilling on a specific camera vs the other one. Many newbies purchase cameras way above their photography knowledge therefore spending more money than necessary while ending up using the camera in full auto. I own the A7iii and recently purchased the 6600 for my upcoming trip to Yellowstone National Park to take advantage of the crop instead of buying the bigger and more expensive telephoto lenses. Just subscribed.

[@JeffCorcelius]

I love my a6400. Just got the Tamron 17-70mm in the mail today! It really comes down to cost. Great comparison. If I was to upgrade (second camera) I'd probably go a6600 to keep with APSC so I can make my glass investments go further. Otherwise, with the A7c I'd be shooting in APSC mode.

[@paulclarke4571]

I agree heaps.

[@bjure8111]

Most people forget the cost of good fullframe lenses. I had fullframe for a long time but recently converted back to the aps-c system, which I felt had good enough IQ, but the lenses are soo much more affordable (and my main reason much smaller).

[@professionalpotato4764]

@@bjure8111 Isn't there a bunch of budget lenses for full frame too? I guess the quality wouldn't be top notch, but I think most people wouldn't notice. Personally I enjoy the weight savings of APS-C, but am enjoying zero cost savings :') *cries in fuji noises*

[@stuartgillmer887]

Thanks for your review's Arthur. I went with your advice a few years ago and started with the a6000 and kit lens. Worked my way up by getting better glass (Sigma 16mm & 56mm) which produced super sharp photos. I'm about to buy the a6600. I love the glass too much to move over to full frame and spend even more on equivalent full frame glass (I'm in South Africa and the a7iii with a kit lens goes for about $3200). After 2 years of continuous use and learning all the a6000 features, the newer technology will be welcomed.

[@gwhite1612]

Great video. I totally appreciate your honesty about these cameras. APS-C deserves its place in the market. It's not all about FF.

[@MrLuk78]

I´ve been watching tons of reviews in the last few days to decide which camera to buy. Without a shadow of a doubt, your reviews are the most honest i´ve seen. It´s not that you say what I want to hear, it´s because you convey reliabilty. Besides, you structure your video in a concise, entertaining yet informative way. Keep up the excellent work!The youtube needs more reviewers like you! And thanks to help me make up my mind.

[@camilomedina6239]

One thing you didn't mention is that you can use full frame lenses on an apsc cameras wich is awesome for future upgrades. But for beginners like me a 6100 is just enough. And the most important thing is how you use and understand the light a camera can't do anything without light, even if you have an A1 and Zeiss lenses.

[@jackstephenson5238]

​@Catalin A But if you plan to upgrade to full frame in the future, its better to just start with FF lenses.

[@pankajvermacs]

@Catalin A - I bought 90mm macro FF lens to use with A6400 and that lens is a beast in terms of sharpness. Sony (or any third party) doesn't have a good macro lens to use in APS-C.

[@dlilking]

I decide on the 6400 because of you. I was deadset getting the 6600 before then, but after watching this video and your a6XXX series comparison videos, I decided on the a6400 because of a budget conscious. And thanks to your videos, a6600 just not a good value for me. And a7c was beyond my budget at the moment. But I am looking to a7rIV probably next year provided I have the budget. I will need a good a low light camera and I want to get into large prints for house decorations, so I will need the mp count.

[@bruzzofilms]

I agree with everything you say! I use a6400 a6500 and a6600 for my photography and video work, and where if I really already notice that it is necessary to go to full frame it is especially in the photos since from 800 iso it is quite noticeable when editing the grains, in video it is less Notorious even up to 3200 iso, for that reason and only for that reason I will go to a full frame, because it does not offer better quality in general. The example of your photo comparison is the real difference that nobody shows, those grains, when editing the photo and making a crop are very powerful. I hope the google translator did a good job on my comment haha !! Greetings from Paraguay.

[@mirrorlessny]

yea in low light full frame is visibly better, I did several tests with full frame vs apsc the difference is easy to see

[@aviralchauhan]

After watching a bunch of videos on A6600, yours is the only one which I could relate with as someone who does photography as a hobby...thank you so much!

[@mohammedmudassir36]

Can u pls review fujifilm xt3 or xt4 with Sony line up..want to shift to fuji for color science.. Thanks

[@cjbronxny1]

Sticking with my a6000 just got new glass the sigma 16 mm 2 months ago I'm going to keep practicing keep shooting and keep getting educated by guys like you.thanks for being honest.

[@purplecorde]

What we have all been waiting for. 👏🏼👍🏼💯

[@Saber422]

Great and I would like to wait your review of A7C+24105G and A6600+Tamron1770

[@PitchAndPaws]

We still use the A6000 in 2021 and honestly it’s still performs great. We’ll be looking at upgrading by the summer and I think the A6600 is the better option for those that already built a small collection of APSC lenses. Hopefully Sony will continue to upgrade their APSC line with new features. Great video as always Arthur!

[@snowboarder92120]

I bought an A6100 after watching your channel and it's been pretty awesome. Thank you!

[@Reviews4fun1]

I only upgraded to the a6600 from my NEX6 for the autofocus and ibis. My APSC glass library is excellent and it’s all about the glass. I was looking at a realistic $4,000 to go full frame and I’m just a hobby photographer.

[@bondgabebond4907]

For a hobby and a little pro work, the a6600 is fantastic. I have it and the A7R3, which I love for it's 42 megapixel sensor. I can't see getting an expensive 24mp full frame body when the a6600 has a great 24mp sensor. It also has the great benefit of turning my 200-600mm zoom into a 300-900mm zoom. It's unreal. But the R3 is for things when I want the extra pixels but for most of the time, I grab my a6600. We fall for the hype too much today.

[@jarrad5244]

Nice review Arthur! I love your channel ❤️ 🔥 🔥 Looks like the sensor is larger almost like a dslr, I wonder how the image quality is . . .

[@脳裏上のクラッカー]

Thanks for such a great video! One more physical difference worth mentioning: relocation of the video mode on the mode dial. Maybe a small change but this def saved my time as a hybrid shooter.

[@noelchristopher4791]

Im still in love with my A6000 after 4 years, if ever i will upgrade, following your lead, it will gonna be A6400. I see myself sticking to the APS-C line. Thank you for this video, i really appreciate it.

[@paulclarke4571]

The thing that gets ignored in just about all of these comparisons is that the APS-C camera gives a a lense greater reach. I have a Sony 70-350 and my A6400 gives me a reach of 525mm. This to me is a huge issue as I'm not young and weight of carrying the camera on long bush walking trips is important. If I was going to upgrade my A6400 it would be to A6600 and I can use all my current lenses. Great work Arthur keep it up.

[@instructormatt_]

Totally agree. I use the 200-600 and 70-350 with my a6600 and I love the extra reach. I'm sure full frame is great, but APS-C is more than enough for what I do.

[@NickL0VIN]

Yeah, for deeper depth of field, usually lower cost, usually smaller, and further reach = APSC wins. For shallower DoF and low light, full frame wins. Nothing is better, just what's better for one's needs.

[@MadPotoo]

@@NickL0VIN DOF is an optical property and sensor size has nothing to do with it. Also for low light it's better to compare pixel size rather than sensor size.

[@NickL0VIN]

@@MadPotoo If you're talking about technicalities you're 100% correct. However, to keep things simple to the lay person, given the same year, the same technology, same brand, same megapixel, Full frame will always be better in low light (because of larger pixels) and produce shallower depth of field at the same focal length (because you have to stand closer to the subject if you want the same look, amongst other factors that help it look more shallow).

[@MadPotoo]

@@NickL0VIN ...actually for DOF the correct comparison with crop sensor would be to apply the same crop to a FF image instead of adjusting your distance. If you stand closer, it's not just the DOF that's affected, but the distortion conferred by the lens would be different. In particular on FF things would be more stretched out and it becomes an invalid comparison. Cropping in post is the only way to compare DOF without introducing new optical variables, and in doing so the DOF would be identical.

[@cankoklu]

Great review and great message at the end.. I've had the a6000 for 6+ years now, was looking at reviews to upgrade.. I agree with not needing the FF; I think the lenses are often more expensive than what you mention BTW I see equivalent lenses almost double the price for FF versions. Besides that I also figured out that upgrading to 6600 isn't worth it for me.. The sensor is still the same as 6000 and I only rarely do family videos. That being said, I'm getting tired of waiting for an upgraded APS-C sensor from Sony.. I'm halfway convinced to sell off all my gear and shift to Fuji XT4; the ergonomics and manual buttons just seem so attractive.

[@willbrink]

This was the comparison vid I was looking for. I had a little bit of buyers remorse with the 6600 after seeing the A7C, but while the 7C is obviously superior in some aspects, I came away feeling the 6600 was the right choice for me, and probably will be for a long time.

[@dollaiiahati]

By far the best review I watched so far and thanks for your last points, I have finally decided to which upgrade I'll get

[@MichTheo]

Great honest review/comparison. Still holding on to my a6000 though❤

[@stevenwaldstein2249]

Came back to watch again since I am trying to decide what to buy for my son who has my old A6000. I bought a mint used A7C after watching this but the rest of my kit is Sony full frame A7x, A9II, and A1. For the A6000 he only has one very old lens and there are many new excellent lenses to trying to decide what to get him.with whatever body we choose. Still a great video. Thank you.

[@oconobee]

Had an a6000 for 5 years before upgrading to the a6600. And after owning it for almost a year I think the only thing more I've gotten out of it is the better battery. If I could have got the a6100 or a6400 with the Z battery I'd be sorted. I still have my a6000 and it takes pictures just as well as the a6600 but going back to it you can really tell the difference in build quality. I may consider the A7 IV if it ever shows up but so far APS-C works well for me. I like the compact size, smaller lenses which are also lighter on the wallet compared to full frame

[@magunciero]

Same with me. I kept my a6000 as I upgraded to a6400. IMO, for landscapes, the a6000 is more versatile than the a6400 thanks to the menory apps acting as nd filter and the in camera timelapse video composer. A shame that Sony abandoned the apps .

[@nphotodotorg2690]

@@magunciero Can you please elaborate why the a6000 is a better camera for landscape than the a6400. I have the a6000, a6100 and Canon 80D. I am using the a6100 as my wildlife camera and I am using the 80D as a landscape camera. I would like to sell one of my cameras. Having hard time deciding. If the a6000 is good for landscape, I would like to stay with the Sony ecosystem.

[@magunciero]

@@nphotodotorg2690 sure. If you're are into landscape photography and you don't mind to carry around nd filters, stacking in post and thoroughly create 4k timelapses, the a6400 will do everything the a6000 does and much more. I consider however the nd filters memory apps for the a6000, a6300 and a6500 an incredible help: no vignetting, no color shift, no extra weight, works for sunny seaside landscapes and waterfalls. The a6300 is more convenient thanks to the silent shutter fully avoiding trepidation. I can't tell about the Canon. Give the apps a try. By registering the camera I was getting a couple of apps for free.

[@nphotodotorg2690]

@@magunciero Thank you so much!

[@heastin92532]

You are the only reviewer that has not blown the Full Frame horn for everyone. I will admit that because of those comments and suggestions has kept the Full Frame bug in my ear in the 3 years I have been getting into photography. In the beginning I just wanted a camera that performed better than the camera on my smartphone; namely in low light conditions. In my opinion, even with all the camera upgrades over the years the smartphone camera system still does not compare to my Sony a6600, especially when it comes to photo editing. My photos from my a6600 just come out cleaner, more vibrant than anything that has come out of my iPhone. Something that did catch my eye between the a6600 and a7c, was when you demonstrated the picture quality in low light situations; namely the picture that included the pic of the street lamp. I noticed the halo ring around the light source was much more pronounced with the a6600 and also grain over the a7c. However, I know in Lightroom, in post edit I would be able to eliminate most of the artifacts but that is only if i take the time to do anything about it in post edit. In turn, I think that is what it really comes down to; what are you willing to spend time doing or what do you want to spend most of your time doing in post edit? Do you want to spend a little longer removing grain from your photos, or do you want a higher probability of less post edit time by choosing the more expensive Full Frame; and again like you said “it also depends on your lens choice” with the body. What walk around lens would you recommend for the a7C? I currently have the G-Master 16-55 paired with my a6600.

[@FireMatePhotographic]

Another great video, as always! I love a lot of things about the a7C, but the one thing keeping me away from it and sticking to my larger full frame bodies and the a6600 is the shutter. The a7C doesn’t have an option for a fully mechanical shutter, it’s electronic first curtain only. Higher shutter speeds can mess up bokeh (and they warn about it in the manual). High speed sync with flashes can cause banding, LED lighting indoors can cause even more banding, and so on. There’s times when I really need to switch over to the fully mechanical shutter and if it’s not there as an option, that knocks the a7C out for me.

[@SolarPowerChannelwithChris]

Great video fella, one of the best. Honest and to the point. I have the zv-e10 with the stock lense. Although it's ok.. I am finding it has it's limitations. I like the size of the camera. Although its not as good as the A6400 I think you had. The Tamron lense you had, which I am looking at will give the little camera that extra boost of use I think. The mic I like on the zve10 its great even in the wind. It's a good little work horse camera when holiday vlogging for personal use. I even have it clipped on my bag strap when mountain biking (peak design one).

[@arfazhoosein6274]

What would you recommend to a beginner photographer? Sigma trio or tamron 17-70mm?

[@RamonGrande]

As awesome as the sigma trio is, switching lenses is a real pain if you plan to shoot events (Thats also where you can make alot of money) If you do portraits, where you're not in a rush, the trio is great, but you get more usability out of the tamron. Reach too with the equivalent 105 max focal length

[@arfazhoosein6274]

@@RamonGrande Thanks man... Appreciate it... ✌️

[@JonathanAkosah]

@@arfazhoosein6274 You should at least try the sigma 56. I use it w/my a6400 for basketball and have great results, you could get it in addition to the tamron.

[@felixmorsdorf1391]

Great video and strong educational part at the end. I have an a6400 and a7iii and was considering the a7c since the ff bodies have become fatter with every generation. but the compromises you mention (evf & grip, display mechanism) would not outweigh the benefits (i am mainly a photographer). The other thing is that if one wants to profit from e.g. the lowlight performance of that ff sensor, one will need fast lenses, which tend to be larger and heavier. and the best 35/2 for sony ff is still the 24 1.4 gm on an apsc body. i would not buy the gm only for that, but if one has it anyway, it is an awesome combination with the a6400.

[@juliusk.7836]

Thank you so much for your personal meaning about these cameras!

[@AndresPineda]

This was a very good video! I haven't seen another like this when comparing cameras. Congrats!

[@GabrielGGabGattringer]

Really interesting comparison, thanks Arthur! Guess I'll stick with my old A6300 and "just" get better lenses (my desired SEL 70-350mm is still $800 after a year!) quite a chunk of money considering that the A6300 itself was that price back in 2018 when I got it.

[@paulclarke4571]

I have the 70-350 and you will not be disappointed

[@pankajvermacs]

70-350mm is a must lens for anyone having sony APS-C camera. I have it for nearly a year with my A6400. I have a kit lens and a macro lens apart from those. But 70-350 is my always to go lens in outdoor settings. You can do landscape with it, you can do portrait with it. With effective max focal length of 525mm, you can always do bird photography with it (I primarily use it for that purpose) and though its not a dedicated macro, you will not be disappointed with its performance even in that category if the object is not very tiny.

[@warrenbarnes9653]

I use an a6500. My primary lenses are the Sony 16-55mm f2.8G, the Sigma 30mm f1.4, the Sigma 56mm f1.4 and the Zeiss Batis 85mm f1.8. I like the results I get with this kit, which are about 80% still photography and 20% video. However, I am dissatisfied with Sony’s skin tones and would like about one F stop’s worth of better low light performance. So I would consider upgrading. But to what? The a6500 is the only Sony mirrorless body with both IBS and a built in flash, which I use frequently for fill lighting that is not overpowering. I cannot get both IBS and built in flash on any of the newer bodies. I would also like to continue to use my lenses. So I may purchase the a7riv and use it in crop mode, sacrificing the built in flash. This arguably has Sony’s best APS-C sensor, as well as outstanding full frame resolution and the new color science. But it is a major expenditure, so I am hesitating, while still obtaining fine results from the a6500. Maybe I don’t need to upgrade after all. Great video, Arthur. Do we really need the latest equipment?

[@bamdevsharma3905]

I think buying A7C is better value for long term for me specially. I prefer zooms but I still want good lowlight and bokeh from the lens. I’d need a prime on APSC for that and it’s difficult to swap lenses and carry multiple primes. Whereas with A7C I’d be okay with f2.8 zoom lens which gives good lowlight as well as good bokeh without the need of carrying multiple primes and constantly switching them. I’d need many lenses on APSC which won’t make much price difference but I’d get much better camera as well as better quality lenses and much more easier to use specially for travel and run&gun uses in smaller package with just 1body&lens. The lens selection is larger on FF. For wide angles, there isn’t good lens choice on APSC either. I’m planning to buy the A7C with tamron 28-75 2.8 as my only gear which will be enough for my usage. 1800(A7C)+800(28-75 2.8)=$2600 ✅ $1300(A6600) +800(17-70 2.8) =$2300 + price of primes = nearly same as A7C but for worse camera&lenses

[@etritrakaj]

Thanks a lot, great review and right on time! I own now the 7C with the Sony 90 Macro G and the combo is just amazing!

[@Mayadude66]

I've been happy with my APSC Sonys for years The only reason I would consider switching to Full Frame is resolution. So If I still only get 24 MP with the A7C....I'm sory. That's just not good enough. If it had more pixels I would definately consider the switch.

[@Mechmanjj]

Found your video very informative and reasonable. Thank you for making this video. It really helped me make up my mind on which Sony camera I should get

[@brainysmurf74]

I went to a shoot with my a6000 at an event and got laughed at by the other photographers who thought it was a point and shoot. Some photographers even stood in front of me while filming, blocking my view. They had zero respect for me. I do not get those reactions when I film with my a7r3. Everything is totally different.

[@bozmundarts2614]

i'd beat their ass up... seriously, what a bunch of suckers :/

[@JordanLedbetter]

@@bozmundarts2614 you'd physically assault someone because they laughed at your choice in camera?

[@247cmason]

Love the honesty!! I use a A6400!! Keep up the good work!

[@Boorifee]

Laying down the truth bomb. For practical users. Goodjob bro

[@naresh1605]

Hey Arthur, thanks for this video. This helped me take a decision on which camera to buy btwn these two. I am currently using a6000, wasnt sure which one to buy out of A7C or A6600. ( someone suggested A7c) but not convinced. But the like the way u summarized the video and verdict,, get better at ur skill, not the camera. Thanks for that.. U saved me few (more than few) bucks. Thank you. Saying that, may be some day when I think of upgrading the camera, I will sure look up for ur videos.

[@FrattaTV]

Super happy with my a6400 and sigma trio (I personaly love my sigma 30mm f1.4)

[@mylesgarado212]

wew i love this comparison, I'm trying to buy a mirrorless camera for my new hobby , and been comparing which is bettter the APSC or full frame but man this video moved me. Done subscribing

[@europeon2wheels89]

Bought an a6600 last Dec along with the 3 Sigma lens (16,30,56) to compliment an aging a6000 w/a couple of kit lenses. A7C might be slightly better in certain situations but I'm sticking with a crop sensor at least for the foreseeable future. Best price I found on the a6600 body in my area of Europe was €1240 ($1476 US).

[@allenschneider1847]

I would love to see a comparison of the a6600 and the fugi xs10.