DON'T Buy A Lithium Battery Before Watching This Video! 100Ah | Trolling Motor RV Solar

[@goodmanfishing]

Which battery would work out best for you?! Let us know what you decided on and what made you go that route!

[@melissacampbell2648]

I was thinking of going with a VPauexii-1210003 12v 100ah for an Intex 40lb trolling motor on my Mariner 4 inflatable. At almost 47 I'm new to this. Do you know if this is a quality battery? I haven't seen much about it.

[@goodmanfishing]

@@melissacampbell2648 Sorry, I have not heard of that battery before. What about it interests you more than the brands covered in the video?

[@melissacampbell2648]

It ranked high in a few google searches that had the top 10. Some guy who was using it for a different thing that needed to be hooked up he said it was sealed well and has a handle and it also had a usb port with a button so if you wanted to switch and charge your phone while fishing you could. It also had an ariel port but my brother doesn't plan on going on my boat to throw up his drone so don't really need that one. I have read so many reviews on so many batteries over the past month. Some have horrible customer service and I don't want that. Some have reviews wrre a lot of people say it died super fast. I just want to be able to cruise around a pond or lake in my boat for the 2st few times with fishing trips after I get used to maneuvering my boat. I am on a budget. I have a nico charger from a long time ago but it is 6 volts so need to buy a charger as well. The 1st one I was going to buy was as screamower or something but it had horrible customer service reviews.

[@melissacampbell2648]

I'd love a li time but it's out of my price range. I need 200 or less. ​@@goodmanfishing

[@melissacampbell2648]

​@@goodmanfishingthank you for the quick reply btw

[@bobbarnhill8557]

I have 2 of the Litime 24 series with bluetooth running my Quest TM. I can’t seem to wear them down. Never below 90 percent yet. Love the Bluetooth feature to check battery status on the go.

[@so_cal_hike_ski]

Outstanding video! Just the content I was looking for. Appreciate the graphs breaking down all the parameters.

[@goodmanfishing]

Glad it helped!

[@markgetz]

I just bought 2 WattCycle batteries. It was recommended by another popular channel, before I discovered your channel. I’m very happy to see that you also recommend the choice.

[@goodmanfishing]

Good choice!

[@jasonbroom7147]

Very good video! I got into LFP batteries pretty big a few years ago, building my own from component parts. I discovered that two, 12.8v, 100ah LFP was really more than I needed for my 24v trolling motor, with the way I fish. I eventually repurposed those batteries (along with others I built) for stationary storage of solar energy and built a dedicated, 24v, 50ah LFP battery for my boat. I've been very happy with the results.

[@goodmanfishing]

Nice! I've not gotten into putting batteries together but it sounds like a fun project

[@jasonbroom7147]

@@goodmanfishing - It's not terribly difficult, although you really don't save as much money as you would have 3 or 4 years ago. It is cool knowing what goes into them and how to service them, if need be.

[@scott0369]

After a lot of research grabbed a Watt Cycle for $189 10 days ago which has the low temp protection. Size 24, price, saw the gutting video that showed it was a quality build. It for a C2 40lb Minn Kota and I hope I made the right choice.

[@goodmanfishing]

Good buy!

[@QuickJoe]

I have the minn kota c2 40lb. But looking to buy a lithium one. Can you please let me know how long you can use the minn kota for at ones? For me it will be on a Kayak and I want to know how far I could taken it with a 100Ah lithium.

[@goodmanfishing]

@@QuickJoe 100Ah will power a 12v kayak extremely well. Likely 20+ hours of fishing time

[@scott0369]

I just used mine for 4 days using it with a C2 40lbs Minn Kota and a Garmin Echomap ff on my personal pontoon. I fished about 8-9 hours a day split between morning and evening and only recharged at night. It used 25 to 28 percent per day, so so far, I'm very happy with this purchase.

[@wbhotboybg]

You have the one battery fpr everything ​@scott0369 ?

[@zamfirtoth6441]

I just ordered 2 batteries from Litime, group 24, bluetooth, 100ah, no shipping 434$ directly from Litime.

[@zamfirtoth6441]

I do not trust amazon for expensive items.

[@jameswetter8578]

What is the better option 2 12 V 100ah or a 24V 100 for trolling motors?

[@BradleyAsselstine]

Fantastic Video! Liked the warranty, price, etc. bar charts and the 4 ratings.

[@goodmanfishing]

@@BradleyAsselstine thank you!

[@randyhill9793]

Besides smaller, what is the difference in a group 24 vs 31? Being smaller, will it drain quicker than the 31?

[@goodmanfishing]

Good question! For the majority of these batteries, the Group 31s and Group 24s have the exact same cells inside of them. If you were to crack open a 31, you would see some foam inside taking up the extra space. The reason for the 31 size batteries is to "drop-in" to many boat configurations without needing to change battery trays. They have the same energy storage capacity.

[@jessegreve6024]

Just started the decision to upgrade and found your videos, great info. Do lithium batteries need a special charger and if not can i use a three bank charger that will charge both trolling motor batteries (AGM) and dedicated sonar battery (lithium) at the same time?

[@goodmanfishing]

Thanks for the comment! I actually have a video on using a lead acid charger for lithiums and what that does. In general you should source a charger with a "lithium" setting. That charger can be multibank for sure.

[@3shotkaraoke661]

I have a small 10' Basstender boat. I run a 50lb thrust trolling motor and a small humminbird locator. I usually only fish at night but they are long excursions (6-8 hours). locator is on the entire time. Trolling motor is run intermittently on low speeds but occasionally on high to get from one area of the lake to another. I'm trying to learn enough about lithium batteries to get one that will be sufficient in size and power to accomplish these outings. A sla deep cycle marine battery usually will last an entire evening. I can't figure out what the difference is in some of these that are astronomically expensive vs. the under $200 or so? Would appreciate any suggestions or directing to your other vids that might explain how to determine what I need.

[@goodmanfishing]

For your use case, definitely go with 100Ah battery. I would highly recommend something with bluetooth or a screen (Temgot) that you can see your SOC. Especially for night trips. One of the major differences between the expensive batteries and not is the customer support. Expensive batteries you can call someone for support, not so much with the budget batteries. You also won't find your battery on a shelf somewhere that you can go exchange. Overall the quality has been very good with all of the batteries I have tested, except for one here recently.

[@3shotkaraoke661]

@@goodmanfishing Thank you! I appreciate your help and enjoy your information.

[@billbrunton2361]

Good information. I have a 2004 class B Low mileage Roadtrec. I want to put two LiTime 100 amp batteries in but can't find a converter/inverter under $500 to run the AC for an hour or so. Ideas?

[@MoharaniDas-em7qb]

The temgot battery is working well done. I will reorder two battery. Thanks for your share.

[@goodmanfishing]

Great!

[@JerseycatsFishing]

I agree. The Temgot battery has been excellent so far after a month of continuous use on my boat. The temgot powers 2 sonar graphs that are extremely power hungry that would usually deplete a new group 29 deep cycle by more than half after a 6hr trip. So far after my guide trips I’m seeing roughly 77% charge left which is amazing plus I have full voltage the entire time which was my main issue for the swap. My graphs images were deteriorating by trips end once my batteries dipped below 12v and this battery has fixed that problem. I did go with an enjoybot 36v 100ah battery for my 112lb thrust trolling motor and that battery has been amazing! I’ve yet to get it below 90% charge after any of my recent trips. In a little nervous about the lithiums when it gets cold this winter but north Georgia has had very mild winters the past 7 years so I’m hoping that won’t be an issue and leave me high and dry during a guide trip.

[@goodmanfishing]

@@JerseycatsFishing glad to hear about your results! Winters should be fine, if you discharge that enjoybot on really cold days, it's best to charge it soon. There's a lot of thermal mass there that will stay warm for a few hours while you get home. Charging adds heat as well. You just don't want to try to charge a battery below freezing.

[@MoharaniDas-em7qb]

​@@JerseycatsFishing Temgot have 12v 100ah lithium battery with self heating function, if you worry about the wether.

[@minicodemonkey]

One thing that would be awesome is a battery teardown on all the batteries. The thing I noticed from some of the solar guys when they tear the battery apart is the build quality can vary A LOT. Some batteries are constructed correctly while other are have lots of defects or designs that can create future failures. Examples would be too thin wires on the inside or the manufacture doesn't program the BMS correctly for the low temp cut-off, etc.

[@goodmanfishing]

While I agree, that takes quite a bit of $$ and/or sponsored product to make happen! Hopefully my channel gets there at some point 👍

[@brockdelorenzo7505]

Just wanted to add… I agree to an extent. If you were going to really abuse, these batteries, either in capacity, on the water, etc., it’s good to know it’s inside. For the every day person who’s going to have them stationary and not drain them fully or use too much power, it’s probably just overkill.

[@jdollar5852]

Yep. I use the Dr Prepare batteries in a solar setup to run my 3 freezers in the barn and they've worked fine for 2 years. It's a stationery, low amp draw, so they should last for years. I went with a 36v battery for my trolling motor almost 2 years ago and it has been beyond my expectations.​@brockdelorenzo7505

[@Barc7580]

Loved the video. Thanks. I'm curious of what you think about the Watt Cycle 12v 300AH Mini battery. I'm thinking of building a couple of power boxes with this battery as the storage component.

[@goodmanfishing]

That is a lot of capacity at 12v. Have you considered going to a higher voltage for your application?

[@MoharaniDas-em7qb]

Great review, order one TEMGOT battery. Like the self heating function and LCD SCREEN!

[@goodmanfishing]

It has a lot of nice features for sure

[@lancelamoon6743]

Power Queen are really good for the price.

[@LuisPicancoJr-su7em]

How much of a difference is a group 24 versus a group 31. I love the idea of your review on. Li time Which I actually have. I currently am running on a small boat group 31. Li time. I want to put two in my tracker to run my 24 V trolling motor. Am I losing a lot by dropping down to the group 24 so I can gain Bluetooth monitoring or should I just wait to get monitoring in a group 31 which Li time currently doesn’t have.? Thanks for your insight looking forward to your answer.

[@goodmanfishing]

You aren't losing anything by going from a 31 to a 24 at this point. The 24 has the same BMS but with BT and cells, just a smaller package. Please use the links, if you end up buying! 👍

[@david78212]

I’m bouncing around a couple of different batteries, my battery box is very limited and I don’t want to put a bunch of batteries all over my boat. I’m trying to decide if I should just use bare cells and make my own, I could make a battery out of cells and have 560ah or a 8D “style” that is smaller and will fit and have 280ah at most or 2 mini styles and only have 200ah… I the WH is what counts and it will increase with each size up, I want the extra WH to run my refrigeration in shady days. I kinda like the idea of two batteries if something goes wrong with one I can run the other until I get it fixed, 1 bigger battery would eliminate that possibility. I’m really leaning towards two minis for now and “upgrade” later.

[@parkervarin]

Solid video. Thanks so much!

[@goodmanfishing]

Hope it helped!

[@gregp8ball]

Great video just got minnkota terrova 80lbs 24v trolling which going on 17 foot V style aluminium boat Which two 12V battery's would you recommend not looking to cheap out on it just need something strong and reliable which will keep on the water enjoying not pulling my hair out Ps. going to utilize spot lock a lot at least this is the plan .......

[@goodmanfishing]

@@gregp8ball 2x 60Ah will be more than enough power. Unfortunately there aren't too many "budget" batteries in that size. I am still a fan of the Group 24 LiTime 100Ah 👍

[@gregp8ball]

@@goodmanfishing Thanks for replay gonna go with li time now can you tell me since im very new to this and having 24v system in the boat which charger i need to get for them two batteries

[@goodmanfishing]

@gregp8ball For just the two batteries you can buy a two-bank. If you want one charger for the two lithium's and maybe a cranking battery you can go with a 3-bank. I have some videos on FirstPower pro chargers that I'm current using

[@gregp8ball]

@@goodmanfishing Yeap just watch it Firstpower Pro is on the way THank you again

[@hacksaw413]

I was looking at the power Queen group 24 and they're claiming I can just change battery for battery with no other add-ons? Your opinion.

[@goodmanfishing]

Hello - Not sure what your application is? Boat? Not sure what other add-ons you would be considering

[@benharper1682]

do they make a decent cheap battery moniter with blue tooth that can attach to the Watt Cycle battery?

[@goodmanfishing]

@@benharper1682 do you already have the battery? If not, WattCycle does have a Bluetooth version of their group 24 now. If so, take a look at the AmpedOutdoors monitor. You need to have a Hall effect or shunt style monitor on a lithium, some basic voltmeter "monitors" aren't going to help.

[@goodmanfishing]

**Note** Power Queen just announced their Group 24 battery. It is not included in this comparison but there is a link to it.

[@dustincrittendon3778]

how does it compare to the LiTime?

[@goodmanfishing]

@dustincrittendon3778 on paper it is very comparable. I've not used one yet

[@THerman29]

What chargers do you recommend ? Do you have any videos on comparisons ? Thank you

[@goodmanfishing]

Hello! Are you looking for a multi bank charger? Or a charger to bring to the battery and charge it? I have a video on. First Power Pro that I use in my boat, it's a 3-bank. Unfortunately I do not have a comparison on different chargers available. NOCO is a popular brand that seem to do well, but I have heard their support is spotty if you do have an issue.

[@tcfelstead20]

For Cranking a 40hp mercury, any reason NOT to do it on my deep cycles? Have plenty of capacity, but wondering if there’s harm to it.

[@goodmanfishing]

The deep cycle BMS typically aren't rated for cranking peak current loads. Not to say it couldn't do it on a 40hp, but you won't find any manufacturer recommend or approve it.

[@steven33068]

Can i use the li time 12.8 GP24 as a cranking battery?

[@goodmanfishing]

In general none of the batteries shared are rated for cranking applications. In most cases a different BMS is required and self-heating is preferred.

[@danielcarter1149]

ty so much excellent video new follower here

[@goodmanfishing]

@@danielcarter1149 thanks Daniel!

[@GI_haha13]

Always look forward to watching your videos. I was wonder what you thought would be the better choice? The new LiTime group 24 with bluetooth or the new Power Queen group 24 with bluetooth? I would be using the batteries for a Ultrex 36V and the space of the 24 would be nice, but don't really care about bluetooth. But the BMS and LTCO is nice. I know when you post the video, I saw where the Power Queen wasn't out when you filmed. On Amazon, there is about a $10 difference between the 2, Power Queen is cheaper. Is the LiTime worth $10 more. Thanks for the help

[@goodmanfishing]

Thanks for the comment! I would say there's an extreme amount of commonality between the two. You may take a Quick Look at their app and see if either one is better, some are pretty clunky. I know the LiTime app is pretty easy to work with. If you do buy, please use the links, they help me out 👍

[@stedyone1090]

Li Time & Power Queen that say trolling motor are all I run along with the Li Time battery balancer. Both on sale every few months . Amazing

[@GI_haha13]

@stedyone1090 interesting. I'll check the balancer out! I know what one does. I just never really thought about using one, but I can see where that would do very well in a Lithium setup.

[@winstonrocco1981]

What is difference between litime 100ah 24 series vs litime 100ah 31 series. Is there a difference other than size. Is there a reserve capacity difference like a lead acid

[@goodmanfishing]

No difference, same cells in a bigger package. Check out the Weize tear down video that I just posted at the ~5min 30sec mark and you'll see why it is that way.

[@cameronbrantley1269]

If I’m using a xi3 55ib thrust trolling motor would the 100amp 12volt run this all day no problem?

[@goodmanfishing]

Assuming you are fishing and not planning to travel miles on that motor, I would have no concerns with a 12+ hour day of fishing on 100Ah.

[@cameronbrantley1269]

@@goodmanfishing thank you, maybe just to get across smaller creek channels and things but no long runs

[@bobczz3919]

If you run it between speed 3 and 4. You could troll for 4 8hr days on one charge.

[@robertsanders347]

Is any of those batteries made for cranking outboards

[@goodmanfishing]

@@robertsanders347 not specifically. I did a video recently on the LiTime dual purpose battery that I am using for cranking.

[@brandenfindley5467]

How about GoldenMate batteries? Seem to be same price range.

[@goodmanfishing]

@@brandenfindley5467 I've used some goldenmates. They seem to perform fine, they are a little heavy because they use cylindrical cells, other than that, no issues.

[@heroesandzeros7802]

You can add Bluetooth to any of these batteries with the Ancel BM200.

[@garysong-ri7iz]

I like the goldenmate battery, maybe you can test this brand in future

[@goodmanfishing]

I actually have used one of their 100Ah batteries. It was a little heavy as they use cylindrical cells, but it had great usable power. kzbin.info/www/bejne/moqzZ3humJySp7s

[@DavidSmith-Samluke36]

What is the difference between the Li Time 24 series and the 31 series? They look like they have the same power but making one bigger with same performance doesn't make any sense.

[@goodmanfishing]

The group 31 size fits right in the majority of larger (20ft+) boats without any modification. These came out first as a drop-in solution. If you cut one open, there are foam pads that take up extra space. Removing the foam gets the battery down to the Group 24 size. Which is not a common size for deep cycle batteries, but it does offer a smaller footprint for those who need it. The same cells are in each.

[@DavidSmith-Samluke36]

@@goodmanfishing Thanks for the quick reply. I have a Triton 18XS with two 27 series lead acid batteries and do not think the 31 series will fit on the shelf they are currently on. I'm running a 80lb MinnKota Ultrex on the tandem 27's. I have a 31 series AGM starting battery so I would buy a new in-boat 3 bank charger that would allow me to select between Lithium and AGM. Once again thanks for the reply...I'm now a big fan.

[@goodmanfishing]

@DavidSmith-Samluke36 glad to help!

[@TheKenjondoe]

@4:19 I find it funny how you zoom in for emphasis when you say forever

[@goodmanfishing]

I should have said it slower and cut to the clip from the Sandlot movie 👍🤣

[@mitchgentry-to2wq]

Nice review is there a advantage to a group 31 over a group 24

[@goodmanfishing]

The only advantage I can think of is that it may fit more snugly in your existing battery trays. If you have a 31 already.

[@GroovyCachinDude]

Which company has the best BT app? It really seems like most of these Chinese-made batteries are all basically the same (feature to feature), so what sets them apart? Warranty, app, build quality, etc

[@goodmanfishing]

I've used a handful of different apps, so far I'd say LiTime has the best one. My only only complaint is that you have to disconnect/reconnect to get the latest status. Seems like a bug, but it's been there a while. There's not a lot, at all, that separates the budget Chinese brands anymore. In many cases they appear to be the same battery with a different case or sticker.

[@jimwoodmansee]

Great review. With so many kayakers moving into 24v motors are you planning on a review of 24v batteries for them?

[@goodmanfishing]

Thanks! At the moment I do not have any 24v batteries to demo but can certainly do a similar activity with specs. I have been in contact with LiTime helping define what would be the ideal marine 24v battery.

[@radissimo1]

I found Li Time prices too high in Australia, it is not value brand anymore

[@goodmanfishing]

@@radissimo1 interesting. What are the value brands in Australia?

[@davidsolberg9464]

I see all of these seem to be rated for motors from 30 to 70 pounds of thrust. I have a smaller motor than that, 24 pounds of thrust. Will these still work for this motor? I dont see why it would make a difference if the motor is less than 30 pounds. Am I missing something here?

[@goodmanfishing]

I wouldn't have any concerns with that 24# motor.

[@61woody]

I would use full power sparingly. I have a 30LB MK on my Kayak with a 50AH battery and ran it on high too much and burned out 4th and 5th. Minn Kota will tell you not to run your motors on high for long periods of time although this does not apply to the new brushless motors. Still the best way to power so don't be afraid to run lithium, just don't run it on high for long periods of time.

[@davidsolberg9464]

@@goodmanfishing I ended up going with a 12 volt 100ah from Vatrer. We will see how that does. Price was right for my needs.

[@goodmanfishing]

@@davidsolberg9464 nice , should work out well!

[@jimwoodmansee]

Because of the lower amp-draw I would think a 24v 50 or 60ah would be ideal for kayakers.

[@goodmanfishing]

I agree. There are still a lot of 12v setups out there on kayaks however.

[@eddiepayne8533]

Excellent info! Ok here’s my question, 24v Ultrex, two of the Li Times would be great! I’m going to stay with an AGM for cranking. Have you done any reviews on chargers? I’m thinking a Noco might be a good option. Thanks again.

[@goodmanfishing]

24v @ 100Ah is plenty of energy for you. I would have no concerns with the LiTime for that. The Group 24 shares the BMS with the LiTime Trolling Motor battery, which is pretty robust. I have a review posted on a First Power Pro charger on the channel. I use it in my boat today for my lithium and cranking batteries.

[@eddiepayne8533]

@@goodmanfishing I’ll take a look. Thanks bud!

[@dogcjt]

I purchased a Noco GenPro10X3 and after I got it installed I discovered that bank 2 was bad. They had me send it back for warranty. They received it last Friday. I hadn’t heard anything back from them so I used the chat feature on their website to ask the status and they told me to check back next week. I’m not happy about that response and am worried about how long it’s going to take to get a replacement.

[@goodmanfishing]

@@dogcjt sorry to hear that! hoping you get a quick resolution

[@allstaralex0776]

@@goodmanfishingI have terrova 80lb 24v. I have a promariner digital series 15 amp charger. If I get 2 Li time 12v 100 AH would that work with my charger

[@vincecarluccio5018]

Can you take a crack at a guess as to why these batteries are 1/4 or 1/3 the price of a comparable Battleborn? I understand they are "cheap Chinese" batteries but do you think Battleborn is getting a premium for the name as well as made in America? Your thoughts?

[@goodmanfishing]

@@vincecarluccio5018 I'd say customer support has a bit to play into it. You can call Battle Born, MillerTech, etc and talk to someone. That does cost money. So does sponsoring professionals to some extent. All of the cells being used right now are sourced from China. Imported battery cells have tariffs applied to them, which further adds to the cost disadvantage of the US-based assemblers. Lately, China assembled batteries overall is pretty darn good. It was hit or miss a year or two ago. More features have come on as well, like Bluetooth.

[@vincecarluccio5018]

@@goodmanfishing thank you. Makes perfect sense.

[@gfant]

How would any of these work with car audio??

[@goodmanfishing]

@@gfant don't see why they wouldn't work for that application. What type of max current are you drawing?

[@gfant]

@@goodmanfishing I have 2 370 self excited with 10k DS18 amp

[@dreamfly555]

They are all 100AH. If I don't need Bluetooth, why not get the smallest possible? e.g. if Li Time has a group 31, group 24 and a mini, why not just get the mini?

[@goodmanfishing]

@@dreamfly555 Two reasons. 1) you may already have group 31 trays in your boat. Some people just want a battery to drop in and make no modifications. Mini batteries typically don't fit a traditional battery tray. Tying them down can be a different challenge. Two) It's not always as clear between manufacturers what cells are being used. A strong portion of the "mini" batteries use pouch cells, like in a cell phone. The others use rectangular prismatic cells. In my opinion the rectangular prismatic cells are better performing with higher sustained loads and manage heat better. The pouch cells are tightly stacked and in general will not manage heat as well. For something like a trolling motor, I'd prefer rectangular prismatic cells.

[@Outdoorzmerch]

Of course as a affiliate his pick is one of the most expensive batteries lol

[@goodmanfishing]

Which do you think is the best overall?

[@Outdoorzmerch]

@goodmanfishing honestly I have batteries with the Bluetooth feature i never use it for me id just stick with the budget pick

[@kylevannoy2686]

This isn’t about the batteries lol. Can you show your graph mount you have on your console!? Thanks.

[@goodmanfishing]

I'll have to see how I can get that posted. I have 3D printed a mount for the center and a ram mount on the side.

[@kylevannoy2686]

@@goodmanfishing I have a ram mount on the side as well was wondering the one in the middle. But that would be great if you could make a short video of it and how it holds up.

[@TW14137]

Li-Time TM has the low temp protection.

[@goodmanfishing]

Correct, I think I had that right in the video?

[@TW14137]

@@goodmanfishing Didn't have selected as one of the ones that had it on the graph.

[@ricqik]

Err, battleborn is not a high end battery, it's just a high cost battery.

[@leenewell2214]

So doe's a 100ah lithium battery run a trolling motor longer than a 100ah lead acid battery?

[@goodmanfishing]

They will run about 2x longer. A Lead-Acid battery is only 50% effective capacity. So if you buy a 100Ah lead-acid, you "get" 50Ah that you can use. Not the case with LifePO4.

[@Theoppositeofchaos]

True Lifepo4 shine in almost every application except starting big engines, charging them discharging and run time they are just great

[@gholdsfishing3144]

Views on redodo?

[@goodmanfishing]

I actually have not personally used a Redodo just yet

[@gholdsfishing3144]

@@goodmanfishing wow quick response thanks

[@stedyone1090]

I have Li Time & Power Queen & Redodo. All 3 amazing

[@gholdsfishing3144]

@@stedyone1090 i ended up going with power queens they come in today👌

[@patricklambert5622]

What about a charger?

[@johnleach740]

Eco-worthy has low temperature. You don’t show it having it.

[@goodmanfishing]

This video published before that battery was offered. Looks like it was made available sometime in July or August. The currently $209 Eco-Worthy still does not have LTCP, but their $240 battery has it and Bluetooth.

[@JasonLee-x2q]

No such thing

[@MrBumbles2]

there is no high end when you tear them apart . so many are being scammed

[@goodmanfishing]

I would say customer service is still a big differentiator, or "should" be.

[@conchopete1789]

Seems like the expensive ones have money tacked on to give to the salespeople that’s all I can figure out. F that I’ll just pick one up at Walmart

[@dfwvtxman]

@@conchopete1789 And to others like this poster. All are trying to make a $ selling them.