DON'T buy a Track Saw? Build this instead!

[@BiggMo]

Track saw is still priceless for those of us working in a small garage.

[@a29miller]

Agreed. Love this idea, but still don’t really have the room to maneuver 4x8 sheets. Track saw probably works better for me.

[@thesandman775]

Agreed. Track saw is essential for a lot of diyers

[@joshh5336]

My thoughts exactly. Also, that does you no good anywhere but in your large shop. Not mobile at all

[@prgelectric5104]

Track saw is also now becoming legit my favorite tool. I have the makita corded and I can’t believe how quiet it is !

[@xmuggsyx]

Yeah and a track saw can follow me to the jobsite easily whereas my table saw is not moving, and we all know the usefulness of a jobsite table saw

[@mitchkey9747]

Your game has changed and it is absolutely in the positive direction. Thank you, you are diy friendly and I subscribe. You are an excellent instructor/teacher. Please continue to share your ideas and disregard the pus that comes out of these squeezed pimples who have negative comments- the are simply discarded on a paper towel that goes into the ranks of sewage! Your work is very appreciated. Thank you

[@efrancis19]

One of my favorite parts of many of your videos is when something works out really well, and as you're testing it out, you laugh with the joy of a successful builder. It just never gets old.

[@steve12740]

You Sir are an inspiration for those of us who can't spend hours on our feet anymore. Excellent videos and info too.

[@BsBucWiLD]

I can spend the hours, but why if you don't have too!!

[@carebase]

Hello, Izzy! Thank you and your videographer for such a wonderful tutorial on a device with such profound process efficiency and safety for working with panels on a tablesaw instead of having to resort to track saws. Truly impressed! At age 70, greatly appreciated the humor at 7:58 + : ) That was very good, and tasteful, and to do both with the cut-in was simply genius. Bravo! I really am impressed with your ingenuity and tutorial skill. I can see you think in 3D, with both left and right hemispheres synchronized in harmony. Keep up the great work! Cheers!

[@cottagemail4066]

This is - BY FAR - my favorite jig you've done to date! 👍

[@145tak]

I built these after seeing Jay's but I like your added features. After building a kitchen, garage and workshop cabinets I told myself I'm done working with plywood. I said that but then followed up with geometric plywood bookshelves for my son! Guess I should just make this upgraded version. Nice work.

[@almclester]

Once again, YOU ARE THE MAN!!! I desperately need infeed and outfeed tables for my saw, but don’t have the space for permanent tables-my wood shop shares my garage with a Mustang GT, so I have to be VERY space conscious in all of my shop fixtures and furniture. I think these will be PERFECT for what I need. Thanks, Izzy!

[@declaneric]

Even having a track saw for on-location work, what a fantastic tool this is for working large pieces in the shop. Most shops I've been in have a rolling table to butt up against the saw to cut plywood. But this is actually better, because having the legs separate, leaves room to move the boards forward without leaning, which is usually how it goes. Here, you just walk forward in between the legs to make the cut more stable. VERY nice work. Thanks to Jay for the idea, and you for the adaptation!

[@wizardmaster6639]

you are impressed too easily

[@221b-Maker-Street]

@@wizardmaster6639 Meanwhile, you appear to be an absolute joy sponge. 🤡

[@yahnwhos]

I almost have enough money for a track saw...been saving for years now....HOWEVER, I think this is a better choice for me. Thank you for sharing, I appreciate you!

[@rogermccaslin5963]

I've got an 8 foot outfeed table (that doubles as a workbench) and a side table that is the same height as the table saw to support the material when I crosscut. For 30 odd years, I've been manhandling sheet goods onto my table saw but as I've gotten older, it has become more of a burden. This is a great solution of supporting the material before it fully gets on the table.

[@plum1000]

I don't really have a shop... I do most "stuff" outside of my garage or on a porch area. I have to use jigs and props for nearly everything. I take bits and pieces from experts like yourself and re-adapt for "cheapy" (i.e. low resource) projects. I have about a 20 percent success rate but trending upwards. I'll most likely see the Lord face-to-face and move from my earthly address before I finish with all the ideas that you have shared. Thank you for the ideas and the legwork that you've done to help me be a "better" novice woodworker. Most importantly, I'm glad you are better physically.

[@EricGrayEricLeePhotos]

Certainly does what it is supposed to do! But, it doesn't solve the issue of needing 8' behind and in front of the saw. Still need the track saw in my smaller shop. Thanks for the content!

[@izzyswan]

Right On. Cant fix space issues for sure.

[@golefevre]

Seems that the axiom of about never having too many clamps is also true about shop space. The room to maneuver a 4' x 8' sheet of plywood around a cabinet saw is enviable.

[@Erik_The_Viking]

Yeah that's my problem too. I love the idea though!

[@JordanHaisley]

I have size constraints as well, but I’m solving it with a panel saw to minimize the need to move full sheets around as much as possible.

[@Erik_The_Viking]

@@JordanHaisley Yeah that's a great solution - now if I only had a wall to put one on I would build one. Definitely useful for breaking down large and smaller pieces.

[@richpeggyfranks490]

What a great aid to those of us who struggle with large sheet goods. I have a track saw, but always hesitate to use it because of the extra work, set-up, clean up, etc. Especially when I have a 62" saw just sitting there. Also, the "getting floppy as you get older" comment really hit home. I was glad I didn't have a mouth full of coffee when you said it. Haha. Thanks.

[@theodurbin8672]

Fully on board with this jig system, and yes also to noticing & appreciating Jay Bates' version.

[@orrinkelso9295]

That is a great idea. And I agree, breaking down you plywood is far faster on a table saw. Even at 70 years old , I can still muster a 4x8 sheet of 3/4 inch plywood on the table saw and I always have to do it by myself. But I am not going to say it is easy. Those jigs will help considerably. In the last year I got a Makita track saw which I like a lot, but no way is it anywhere near as fast as the table saw. On the table saw, I set the fence and I cut. Never have to take out a tape measure or pencil and mark anything. Really enjoy you videos. My best to you and Maggie.

[@scottyates4939]

Love this channel, I work away from my shop quite often, so a track saw is very handy when doing projects on my rentals...this is great for my limited back capabilities and let's me finish my days with comfort at 72 years of age...thx Izzy!

[@flatlander523]

Holy cow Izzy, thank you for sharing this. I am also retired and it is devices like this that will help keep me in the shop longer and doing the normal projects I like doing. As you get older you need devices like this to compensate for the natural loss of strength and dexterity. You could start another business developing devices like this to help us old goats and nannies Looking forward to the plans. 😊

[@vincegrey8718]

Fine idea of you have a big workshop and a big table saw. It doesn't replace the functionality of a track saw. For most of us planning the project so you can have the plywood ruffed out on a panel saw at the lumber yard in manageable pieces is cheap or free. Then true them up on your table saw. I built a whole kitchen for my son who lives 3 hours away in my 10 x14 shed by having my plywood cut into halves or thirds at Lowes. I then used a track saw to break them into near finished pieces. I only have a DeWalt contractor table saw on a portable stand and use that for final sizing on critical pieces. But God bless anyone with a larger workshop who makes a living at woodworking. Lastly, it is inspirational to see the creative mind at work to solve problems.

[@JLRWoodCreations]

I'm in the process of building an outfeed/assembly table. Have been thinking about what to do on the infeed side. You have just answered all my questions! Thank you for this video!!

[@walterrider9600]

thank you Izzy .its amazing how at 20 ish moving a sheet of plywood was no big deal . however at 70 with no back its a big deal . looks like a good deal

[@arponto]

Ok, using thin CA to lock pieces into place!! It's so obvious I never thought of it. If nothing else, this was extremely helpful to me! I love this setup

[@Gotmovezlikejagga]

Once again you demonstrate your engineer brain at work! Great solutions to problems don't have to be fancy or expensive. Excellent!

[@bonesrhodes3762]

--- remember my first "track saw" from 62 years ago - it was an 8' x 4" factory edge from a piece of birch plywood, 2 c-clamps, and a 6 1/2 gear drive Skilsaw - worked great

[@MarkSWilliams27]

You "IZZ" a genius, bro. I need to get this figured out for my Unisaw/Unifence.

[@DHM078schannel-np9xh]

Looks great if you have the space to make use of it. That loading function is awesome. I'm working from a one car garage where I just don't have the space to physically maneuver full 4x8 sheets on the table saw. I don't have the infeed/outfeed length to rip them or the width to crosscut them. Even just moving and storing the sheets is a pain, so plywood sheets usually end up on sawhorses on the driveway as soon as I get them home. I've gotten by without a track saw, but will probably get one next time I have to do a bunch of cabinets.

[@ej558]

Consider getting one of those Kreg circular saw t square guides... they work well on rough breakdown of sheet goods and you can refine at the table saw to final dimension

[@RobbieSongwriter]

One of the more BRILLIANT designs I've ever seen. THANK YOU for sharing this. You always have such GREAT ideas for nifty stuff, but this is SUPERB.

[@jeffreykipperman6894]

One of my favorite woodworking channels. It's beyond me that you haven't reached 1 million subscribers yet! Thank you Izzy!

[@Marcus-dd6fb]

I really appreciate how you mentioned the differences in other table saws, particularly the Laguna.

[@melissaburns5240]

When I saw Jay's video, I didn't think I could love this idea any more. But, here we are. You certainly took this concept and ran with it! Amazing!

[@richklekar]

Thanks for the video. A very practical yet inexpensive jig.

[@raydriver7300]

You already know that I admire your innovations. All the best for the future to you and Maggie. She really needs her sense of humor 🌞

[@scottmorris4914]

Glad you retired, we get to see you more, with videos such as this. I am a person with back issues, and this system not only helps with ripping down wide stock, but also lifting the stock onto the table saw.

[@DebHeadworth]

You're such a great teacher! (concise, clear, orderly, creative) Thank you so much!

[@j_b_9381]

I saw Jay's video on this and already planned to make a set for my small shop. Now seeing you're additions, I'll be including them as well. This is a great upgrade to an already fantastic jig.

[@dianetakis3712]

I saw those in a video you posted yesterday and was so excited to find this video where you show how you built it!! I LOVE them!! I was also intrigued by that gadget you used to life the plywood.

[@3er328]

Hey izzy, man that is slicker than snot on a door knob, think I’m gonna do this, I’m in my mid sixties with 2 bad discs in my back this will make running sheet goods much easier, I raised all of my work bench’s and table saw up to 40” ht because of my back, surprised you haven’t done this because of your back, I’m 6’4” so your ht may vary, that partially bent over is killer on the lower back, I like vacuum thing your using to, need to get me one of those . Thanks

[@michael.schuler]

These infeed supports are great for table saw in shop. Track saw reigns supreme for non-parallel cuts, as often required for remodeling and finish carpentry.

[@marcothehammer]

I think you "nailed it"! This is definitely the greatest table saw accessory since sliced bread.

[@MrCypherdiaz]

Definitely handy but for those of us with a table saw that's only 32-36" capacity, there is still a need for a track saw depending on the size of cut. Like I have no way to cut a sheet down to a 48x48peice plus the remainder without a track saw.

[@izzyswan]

i talk about the value of track saw at the end of the video. i Agree with you for sure.

[@diywtlc2249]

I am curious what a resolve to this problem is. because I am picturing a sled that rails to your saw's outside giving umlimited capacity on your saw, but still using this jig for handling the sled and material.

[@cariemck805]

​@@diywtlc2249 I was thinking the same thing.... I'd love to see someone give it a shot

[@flashwashington2735]

Glad to see you well. Enjoy watching and listening to your process. God bless you and yours.

[@dutchwalters4450]

You're having way too much fun. No floppy in your shop. Awesome tool Izzy, as always.

[@gregpreston7301]

Definately an excellent solution given the space. I also like it as just an additional infeed/outfeed surface in a "regular size" shop. A little modification of length as needed and Bob's your Uncle.

[@bobbg9041]

Hey this works pre cut and an outfeed table too. You could also do something like this for the left side of the table for long parts kind of like a sliding table saw. Ive cut 4x8 sheets of 3/4" mdf each sheet is about 80 lbs and on a table saw its pretty hard to solo deal with big sheets like that all day long. But one thing i see is it traps the oprator behind the blade, so extreme mesure need to be taken to stop kickback like attaching something to the fence to hold the cut parts to the table with down forces so the part cant ride up off the table, but the desine had made this less a hazard as the parts not going to try to lean back and down from its weight. Lowering the chance of kickback.

[@joemcgarry1106]

Sure, it works well for you guys that have wood shops the size of airplane hangars. By comparison my shop is the size of a postage stamp. I have to go outside just to turn around. A track saw, and saw horses ,in the yard will stay my go to.

[@leehaelters6182]

Quit yer moanin'. My shop, I have to go outside if I want to change my mind.

[@tomim7187]

Love me some Jay Bates and Izzy Swan. Built my simple ones after seeing Jay's video, which took me less than an hour, out of scrap wood laying about the shop. It has really made panel break downs and sizing so much easier. Izzy, I will make one of yours after making some shop upgrades. Keep those videos coming!

[@a_ham_like_me]

Perfect way to handle large sheets of material. Thanks for taking the time to put together the plans and the build video.

[@elpresidente8730]

Your workshop is the size of a football field, mine is the size of a postage stamp. No way could I function without my track saw and MFT table. but as always your videos are both informative and entertaining.

[@joefaraone977]

Izzy, you're brilliant. Every time I watch your videos, I learn some of the >simplest< cool ideas. Thank you sir!

[@hjboots]

Awesome addition to the table saw for plywood maneuverability, I can see it is a must for woodworkers.

[@gregkieser1157]

I saw this on Jay Bates channel many years ago and couldn’t build one fast enough. It works so well it got me started in the commercial cabinetry game……which resulted in a panel saw. Go figure…….some very nice improvements Izzy.

[@neilmclennan1112]

Thanks Izzy, cool design. And for those of us that don't have a lot of space another pair can be used as out-feed legs.

[@davidellison4750]

Great project. I may make a second one but with 3 legs for use as an an outfeed support system.

[@XiphiasGladiusMaximu]

oh wow, that is super clever. it's nice they fold up and can store them somewhere else.

[@mlubecke]

I love you man…. This is brilliant!! ❤❤❤. You took this to the next level.. it’s also good to see you so happy 🎉…. Congratulations on your retirement.. 😊

[@grumblycurmudgeon]

I've been using a modified Bora Panel Carrier (PM-1850) in a similar fashion for a couple years now. But the locking clamps that firmly affix yours to the table saw rail are a fantastic upgrade!

[@JScottAudio]

This is a great addition for the tablesaw. However....something that is overlooked in a small shop....is that a track saw only requires a 4x8 foot space in which to work while a tablesaw requires 8.5 feet on the infeed and a further 8.5 feet on the outfield side. Add an additional 2 or 3 feet for the saw table itself and you have 20 lineal feet of space required at a minimum, to rip sheets.

[@kamisamaz]

What makes you think you need 4x8 for a track saw?

[@JScottAudio]

The sheets are 4x8 and require no infeed or outfield space. The sheet is cut in place.

[@kamisamaz]

@@JScottAudio the point is w track saw is the size of the track. You aren't required to cut full sheets with it. The table saw is a set size and doesn't make it better than a track saw for many applications.

[@JScottAudio]

I build Kitchens, closet organizers and entertainment centers.... these require 4x8 sheets.

[@clutteredchicagogarage2720]

Great build. This is great if you have a big space and a big table for your table saw. I am a DIY guy who works in a garage or outside. My table saw is a jobsite saw, and I just don't have room for permanent shop tools. I have to use small tools that I can store in cabinets, set up with folding tables when I'm doing work, and then store away so I can park my car in the garage again. I'm thinking about getting a track saw at some point because you can rip down sheets precisely even when you don't have a big workbench or big outfeed table for your table saw. In any case, if I had a permanent shop, I'd probably prefer a big table saw station to using a track saw. If everything has to be portable so you can minimize the footprint of all your tools then a track saw is more convenient.

[@jodydewey]

I don't have an outfeet table so I think I could also use this to build an outfeed side. Super great project!

[@EricHonaker]

Nice idea, and then your infeed and outfeed could fold away in next to no space. My table saw has a hinged outfeed table on it, and that's a godsend.

[@willozfam]

You could use this for creating dovetail joints if you clamp a piece vertically on your tilting table and come up with a way to lock one of the axes at measured increments.

[@earlteigrob9211]

Great for a huge saw and a huge place like you have. For my jobsite saw I’ll take the track saw thank you very much.

[@darcycraig58]

Well despite the video being somewhat confusing I eventually figured out what you were building. Having it replace a track saw, I’m not sure I agree but I’m glad it works for you.

[@DiannaAtherton]

Love your videos. You dont waste peoples time. You get right to the video. For a grandmother who babysits a lot i have limited time hahahaha

[@izzyswan]

Thank you for watching!

[@warrensmith2902]

Jay's design is cool, in fact, it helped me to design and build the extension for my crosscut sled support, an idea I got from you. Way to go Izzy.

[@RustyCas999]

Great idea and I will eventually build these, IF / WHEN I have a shop with enough room to rip a full sheet on my TS. Seeing the tools & techniques you use is very helpful as well. Sitting when you can makes a lot of sense as well. Thanks for this video Izzy.

[@toysoldier46552]

I remember this build when Jay built it, if I had a larger shop this would be a viable option for me. As it is now, my basement shop is so small that I don't even have room to store a track saw let alone try to build this jig for my table saw, floor support beams are in the way. So I get to do things the hard way, I use a long level and a regular circular saw to get the job done.

[@CrapE_DM]

Saw the video of the original earlier today. These are some pretty clever additions

[@herbertliedel7019]

Thanks for reminding me of Jay's system and your additions look great. Now I really have to get this done for my shop.

[@washoecreative595]

I noticed Jay Bates using these years ago, when he was still working out of his garage. He only recently made a video about them.

[@3frogltd987]

Izzy, great stuff, as usual. Please consider making a video on sourcing and applying the black ABS material to plywood sheets. It's great looking and I can see many uses for it on work surfaces and some jigs.

[@Reign_In_Blood_963]

I'm curious about that ABS too. I may do that to my assembly table/work bench top

[@jwallace2913]

Its laminate.. glue it on with contact adhesive and trim the edges with a router and file.

[@JoeDibble-u7t]

OMG I wish I’d seen this years ago. Thanks Izzy! Gonna build these this weekend!

[@fbiker79]

I do like the idea. But, not all of us have the room to build an outfeed table next to the table saw or the table saw with that rip capacity, which makes it easy to support the sheet good. Good to see you are doing good.

[@andrewschultz2504]

Interesting idea good if you have a big shop. I work in the field you can’t beat a track saw for accuracy with precision

[@normancarnahan4893]

Good one, Izzy … and Jay! Actually, with the lifting add-on, this will make it easier to load the heavy sled onto the table saw. Those with back problems will appreciate having the hinged lift doodad. Thanks!

[@donhobbs1212]

Izzy, you are in my opinion a Wizard of Wood in the highest order!

[@ralphambrosio2655]

You are a joy to watch! I bought your dust collection connectors... they are outstanding.

[@izzyswan]

Thank you!

[@robertunderwood6788]

Dude them are some working man's hands for sure. Great video.

[@billparrish4385]

For those of us whose table saw is a contractor jobsite saw in a very small shop area, I love this idea, as it provides more infeed surface than the tiny table saw top, while providing an easily-collapsible infeed, saving floor space. However, there might be some wiggling back and forth of the work piece until enough of the rip fence is engaged to straighten the cut. Plus, the piece might be so wide and the cut so far from the right edge, it may extend over the edge of the saw so that the rip fence cannot be used. An answer to this may be a panel-cutting sled with the fence on the leading edge, and hold-down clamps screwed to the fence. That way, you'd square up to a sled registering off of the miter slot (or slots if you make it with 2 runners), and have the fence-mounted clamps fastening the work piece to the sled for a perfectly straight and square cut.

[@markabernard]

You could also build an extended fence, in combination with these extensions, for cutting down sheet goods.

[@cyrilnorrie8450]

Now this is a great addition to any table saw and I will be building some soon. I’m also interested in that handle you are using to make handling sheets easier. Where can I find one of those? Thanks for sharing your ideas and techniques, which are always so helpful and I have used a few of them.😊

[@oneeyedphotographer]

I have some 3m melamine shelving. If I want to rip that on a tablesaw, I need around ten metres of space. I also need a helper, or infeed and outfeed tables. I'd need about half that to crosscut it with a SCMS, except in this particular case the SCMS doesn't have enough bite. See Peter Millard's channel for how he uses a tracksaw. A permanent table with dogs, a guide rail, a fence. The bench is against a wall.

[@HBSuccess]

Izzy this is a great jig but I will still be using a track saw to get one long straight edge at least. Last year we had an entire unit of domestic birch plywood that was deformed like a banana. One long edge was concave 1/8” and the opposite side convex 1/8”. From that point on I have not trusted a “factory edge” to be true enough to reference. The sheets are also never perfectly square so having one reference edge is critical.

[@richthomas5013]

That’s a great idea. I like your add-ons. I think I’ll have to set aside some time this weekend and make a set. THANKS!

[@leonarddevilliers5037]

This is so cool, I must build one for myself. Your way of presenting it is also very inspiring

[@apappano]

The OneFinity is absolutely sick for the size and quality

[@izzyswan]

we are really enjoying it for sure

[@apappano]

Thoughts on the rigidity?

[@theinfernalcraftsman]

I don't do woodworking like I used to as I got burned out on it. But I made the decision to buy a Grabo. It has so many uses and with more big tile in my near future it'll make my life much easier. I wonder if they are planning to make a vibrating version like the tile ones have. (the tile ones vibrate and suction but are no name imports)

[@danimalmaxasis2762]

You're awesome Izzy nice work but a simple router grooved straight edge for simple saw with a couple of clamps seems a whole lot easier especially in a small shop.

[@davidmaes3253]

Brilliant! Now a bigger shop where such sheets would fit twice between the cabinets. Send one over please. ;-D I'll have to stick to the TS, outside of my small workshop.

[@markhedquist9597]

I saw Jay's video when it came out and liked the idea. Your upgrades are great. I see a couple of shelves mounted under the table saw wing to store these when not in use.

[@markgilles-ih8go]

That there...is exceptionally clever! Well done Izzy!

[@iamchrisjans]

Table saw is for repeated cuts the same width, track saws can do hat but are meant for that portability not just for small shops but for large or uneven things you want to trim down to size. Doors, tables, cabinets etc.

[@kimhavey7850]

This is awesome! Unfortunately I have a job site table saw...and a very small space...I'll just dream about it for now.

[@rickculpepper709]

Nice..love the way you are explaining everything. You do sound more enthuse

[@doofusmaguilacutee4998]

Izzy - I've been watching your site & Jay's for awhile now As a contractor that does most of his finish work "out in the field" with a jobsite table saw, I have a great need for both an in-feed & out-feed table extension that can be broken down easily for transport. The problem is that most of these saws (previously I had the DeWalt & now I'm using the Skilsaw Table Saw) come with a rack & pinion fence & rail system (there's no space between the inside off the rail & the edge of the table) . I haven't figured out a way to attach them at the rail while still allowing the fence to move. Your design & engineering skills could solve this problem & create a new product to sell. There must be thousands of contractors & finish guys out their with these saws facing this problem too.

[@jamesaldabo7767]

Longevite , inventivite , productivite et rire sonore . Un plaisir a regarder .

[@bradleytuckwell4881]

I always enjoy your videos and I can see how much joy it brings you to share your knowledge to all your subscribers. Cheers mate have a great weekend

[@hillwalker8741]

I have a cardboard box on a Hbr Frt furniture cart that I use as an infeed table - pro tip: put something in the box

[@bwbark]

Like the ca blue tape trick. I miss your tips and tricks videos

[@harleywood9588]

Oh great one more thing to make. I like this, thanks for sharing.

[@izzyswan]

hahahaha sorry

[@michaelhales5695]

Instant sub after the step bros quote!! Always gotta love the extra room for activities!!

[@rolandharrison5651]

Thank You Izzy !!! What a great jig build. It looked straight forward, easygoing and looks so clean. This is one project I’m going to do when I get a round to it. Thinking I might need one of humming suction things. Well done, as always a pleasure to see.