DON'T BUY CHEAP MAGS

[@largelarry2126]

We are retired and years back we were on vacation driving through a small town in Tennessee when I noticed a pawn shop. I can't pass up a pawn shop so I stopped to check it out. It was old with a lot of older stuff sitting around covered with dust. Back in the corner they had some guns and a glass case full of old M-16/AR-15 GI mags. A bunch of them had black followers and some had green. I asked about them and the kid acted shocked. I told him I would be willing to buy all of them if they gave me a good price, and he ran to get his 90 year old Grandma. She asked what in the world would I want with all those dam things. I told her I collected them and would love to have them. I told her it's a one time deal, if her price is good there sold, if not, she can keep them. She told me that I was the first person in years to even ask about them. She told me to make an offer, I told her $2.00 each for the green and $1.50 for the black followers. She told me I could have all of them for $1.50 each, sold. Keep in mind that this is a large glass case that's almost full. She walks back behind a blanket that they had hanging in a doorway and started dragging a large box that was filthy out half full of mags, I about crapped! I told her that we were driving a Honda Civic and would try our best to get all of them in the car. It cost me around $1,700 after tax, and she had to mail me the rest. The car was totally stuffed to the brim for our 400+ mile drive home. This was my best AR related deal ever and it fell in my lap.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Holy crap that is insane!!!

[@dude_mccallaster]

Nice man!

[@SnakePliskin86]

“I keep all my mags loaded” good man! An empty mag is a sad mag.

[@clicheguevara5282]

First thing I do when I get home from the range is reload all my mags.

[@lidd69]

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[@jonboy9734]

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[@2amichaelj]

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[@theairwaybat1830]

Lancer, Magpul and usgi aluminum are the only ones I have and trust. Great video and thank you for your service

[@secondarytrollaccount666]

I won't use a lancer but I'll use Magpul.

[@RockyMountainWest13]

I really like hearing input from a man who knows what’s he’s talking about cause he’s either used it or done it a thousand times.

[@Johnyrocket70]

Never buy budget gear unless you plan on buying twice. You can replace followers with magpul anti tilt mags.

[@RoadTraveler]

Helpful video and information. I was about to buy some Magpul P mags, and was not aware of the Lancer brand.

[@scottfennell6568]

I had window pmags issued in Afghanistan back in 2010, never had an issue. I'm not sure of the generation they were. I run pmags gen 2&3 and Okay GI mags currently. I'm definitely going to be buying some Lancer mags soon.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Pmags are def the standard!

[@rouchenelvann]

I love my lancer wf mags! They work well with not only 223/556 and 300 blk, but also with 50 Beowulf rounds without any modification to the magazine. I have the metal mags and pmags as well. I definitely agree with the points in this video.

[@westernwanderer8397]

Just bought a good sized box stainless steel duramags. I'm counting on these mags outlasting my rifle.

[@apexcompany5709]

All commercial mag puches will expand if you soak them in warm water for 30 minutes, then pack them with new mags. To get around mags catching on mounlding I shim the mags in wet pouches for one hour.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I have wet pouches for 10 hours, worn them in the field, AND cut them and still had issues. ESPECIALLY with the trash tango down mags. All is a silly word to use.

[@ronstryker]

Another source of mags is Palmetto State Armory, for the longest time you could find metal mags made by D&H with the Magpul anti-tilt followers for $7.99 - $8.99 on sale sometimes with free shipping with an order of 10 or more, but not as I'm writing this comment. The one thing I learned about the Magpul polymer mags is that you need the dust cover to push down on the rounds to relieve stress on the feed lips - which is the main reason those mags end up failing. I personally prefer the GI style mags only because my gear is all surplus because it's inexpensive and it works.

[@whitefx2]

You don’t need the dust cover. My gen 2 pmags I bought in 2010 have never cracked and have been flawless. I keep them loaded all the time. I go to the range and when I’m back home I load them to 30 rounds. Still intact after 13 years.

[@ronstryker]

@@whitefx2 good for you. I on the other hand had issues with pmags and that dust cover was a solution for me, could there be other solutions? Maybe, but that's what I found.

[@racamp4467]

heck one my favorite chest rig is an old chicom rig. holds 4 ak 47 mags and 8 AR mags 2 pistol, tourniquet gauze and smoke grenade. It is the most comfortable out of all that I have and it was only $10

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Winner winner chicken dinner!

[@paulstone472]

Agree. Don't buy cheap magazines. But where most people disagree is what constitutes a "cheap" magazine.

[@scout3058]

I use Pmags exclusively now. I still have a bunch of my old aluminum USMC issued mags, but they just gather dust. FYI: 3rd gen Pmags are the only mags you can use with M855A1 ammunition (according to Lake City Armory and Magpul).

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Interesting!!!

[@JettBlast]

I prefer metal magazines, I have seen nothing but trouble out of Magpul P-mags...

[@trippie_fabio3181]

Never had an issue in my life with a pmag.

[@JettBlast]

@@trippie_fabio3181 That's great buddy, I must have gotten some duds...

[@shawnpennell1627]

P mags never have problems

[@heyoldtime8969]

Well thanks to you I purchased a AR from Palmetto State Armory and I will get the P-Mags for it. Thanks

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

AWESOME!!! IM GLAD TO HEAR IT!

[@ibanez2010]

LOVE the Lancers. You can find blem Lancers fairly cheap if you search. I have all varieties from 10-30rds. They don't seat as well when full as an Okay mag (with bolt closed), but that's not really an issue.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Its especially important if you train to do reloads when possible as opposed to when you are out its smart to make sure you only load 30 rounds as opposed to 31- or even 29- depending on the mag.

[@bikeracerdude]

For polymer AR mags I like Lancer AWM and P Mag m3- no other poly mag meets their reliability.

[@brhodes2287]

I own Lancer mostly for the AR. Great magazine I got a carbon fiber Sentry Hexmag in a Tac Box subscription box and it worked great.

[@MorrisOutdoors98]

I love my lancers, theyre great mags. I love the duramags too, theyre great metal mags. If you shoot 308,6.5, other AR10/SR25 pattern rifles. You will benefit from the duramags, especially for those who reload. You can load out to 2.850" reliably, but but they will fit out to 2.870" per company.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

People don't realize how Length sensitive a lot of 308 ar mags are!

[@blacklilac1408]

Thank you for your service. Also give Duramag and surefeee e2s a try. Also the Gen 3 Magpul mags crack a lot less than the early gen2's

[@CaptainZachAim7]

Man, an empty magazine is useless lol definitely smart to keep them loaded

[@adamgonzalez7450]

First.... to say I agree. Cheap mags bad.

[@SoloRenegade]

I've used GI mags for years. they work. But I do swap to antitilt followers when able. Most failures of my M16 or M4 in the Army were due to bad ammo or bad mags though. but that stuff was well used too.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

True

[@Stoney_AKA_James]

Mags are expendable and are weak link in weapon system, so don't use cheap mags! "Ancient" 30-round aluminum mags! Heck, I started out with 1970s 20-round mags, now those are ancient, like me!! Before P-Mags, I used Brownells proprietary 30-round mags. Today I use Gen 2 P-Mags now, no problems!

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

1970s 20 rounders!? Haha that sounds awesome!

[@Stoney_AKA_James]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors 2nd Ranger Battalion 1975-1980

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

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[@AntonioRodriguez-bd1sd]

Wow, it’s crazy how I hear him talk about the prizes at that time and right now the pre-lags are pretty expensive 50+ dollars stocking up

[@clicheguevara5282]

The cheapest mags I own are Magpuls - and I only use those at the range. Okay Industry GI mags and Lancers are the only mags I trust.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I hear a lot about the okay industries, ill have to give them a shot.

[@SonOfTheDawn515]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Okay Industries is a USGI manufacturer the US military purchases (or purchased) from along with D&H and some others.

[@BattleGn0me]

i supplement my 30 rnd load out with a sprinkling of old steel 20 round mags. they tend to promise a consistent feed because they have metallic followers quality spring, steel springs, and that are shorter and less prone to kinking or binding especially since they don't need to accomodate a curve. they also make the system less cumbersome for maneuver in combined spaces, i.e. foliage and vehicles etc. the empties are easy to stow in pockets or pouches, and easy to store handily in various nooks and crannies, like flak vest pouches, ass packs. consoles or glove boxes. On long distance dismounted scout patrols we would run the full 6 mags, a 20 rnd mag in the mag well and a couple on our person in a cargo pocket and/or a blouse pocket. that way, even if your not in your harness, at the very lease you have your weapon and a couple 20 round mags and a speed loader. if the old steel mags get a little sticky, we used to load 28. maybe that's a myth, but it seemed to work. the idea is the reduced tension on the first couple rounds would mitigate friction on the feed lips that might cause a misfeed. any feedback on this would be apreciated though. Last thought, instead of fancy stipling or grippy rubber coating, we also fashioned tabs out of 500mph tape, which also mitigated noise, was still slippery in and out ot the nylon pouch but still facilitated handling in the darkness and chaos (which for me personally it never got quite that pear shaped!).

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

The 20's are cool! I want a few myself!

[@xvonfrankenstein]

GI 20rd mags are aluminum not steel.

[@CompanyHaze]

I run Lancers and DuraMags. Tried many...those are my favs. 😎👌🔥

[@brianunderwood7437]

I love my NHMTG magazines made by Okay Industries. Magpul followers already installed.

[@Gignowanafonicon]

Is hitting the lancer with some sandpaper a bad idea?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Enough to make it smooth? Probably. Just enough to soften the texture? Probably not.

[@Gignowanafonicon]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors and more labor intensive also.

[@vashmatrix5769]

Are advanced warfighter mags still worth it?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Yeah, arent those the lancer mags i posted in the video?

[@vashmatrix5769]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors yea. I'm researching which mags to buy before their gone.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Smart man! I would grab up all the magpul, lancer, and aluminum mags i could get!

[@lbcsv]

Great advice. Thank you!

[@Simply709]

4 years late, but those old Colt mags are now upwards towards $30 each, Metal mags are amazing if you replace the follower and spring with a magppull one, I get 3 packs at cabellas for $8. I have a case of metal mags with the magppull followers and a case of pmags and I'm afraid to leave the pmags loaded because it damages the feed lips over time. I've had multiple magppull feed lips wear out and spew rounds all over if dropped after being stored loaded for a while.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I don't know about the pmags and the feed lips by generation, maybe the first gen ones from like 2009 might have an issue but modern ones should be g2g. The colt mags in new condition updates like you said are g2g but if your buying them used a lot of times they are beat to hell at which point they aren't worth the upgrade due to micro fracturing etc

[@Simply709]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Most of the pmags I have had issues with were Gen2 and Gen3 mags. The Gen3 mags aren't as bad, but will still throw 2 or 3 rounds if dropped fully loaded even when brand new. I tend to buy the Teflon coated aluminum mags from BCM for around $11/each when I want something reliable, the lancer ones are okay, I have a couple military buddies and a couple Grand Master USPSA buddies that have said to not trust lancer for duty use. (I have realized that the pmag magazines for the AUG are the best on the market, which is in contrast to the ar-15 ones)

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@Simply709 I have never had a fully loaded pmag drop rounds when fully loaded of any gen- in Afghanistan, in classes, or here. I'll go out today with my older pmags that have been fully loaded for a few years and see.

[@Simply709]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors I'd be curious to see what your results are, I know I've had it happen on multiple instances, and have seen videos of it happening to other people aswell as during training. It (usually) doesn't permanently damage the magazine, but when dropped either out of the firearm or just vertically onto a hard surface, it often results in a few rounds being ejected from the magazine.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@Simply709 I'll check it out. I know I had MASSIVE issues with the mft mags. Those mags are so bad I'm shocked that they are still on the market.

[@spaides5121]

you can fix the Old GI mags if you got anti tilt followers for them, you could even 3d print the AT followers.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Depends on whether or not the follower is the problem

[@nicg9599]

Duramag and Okay industries make the best mags for the AR

[@racamp4467]

yes sir agree with you 100 percent. I like Okay industries mags and pmags

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I have heard great things about the okay industries e2! I def want to get a few.

[@racamp4467]

yes they are awesome mags. Botach.com new with magpul followers go $10.00

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@racamp4467 NICE!!!

[@muddyhotdog4103]

@@racamp4467 the ones with magpul followers aren't the new e2 mags.. the e2's do have a nice antitilt follower though. I actually like the original style non-e2 okay usgi mags, now sold with magpul followers better tho. They're both the same price usually,.

[@racamp4467]

@@muddyhotdog4103 yes. I usually buy mine from Botach.com they are always 9.99 or 11.99 depending on which one you get. as for pmags I buy those locally for 10 bucks.

[@jayfizzle9670]

I'm old school military and I don't like poly anything! My side arm is 1911 my backup is a 38spl and my AR uses only steel mags. D&H makes a good mag and runs flawless for me. Because I live in Illinois capacity is 10rds. I bring about 10 D&H mags to the range, 100rds later not 1 FTF , steel case or brass not. Great review look forward to getting a sling from you. Liked and Sub Sir.

[@supermoon1430]

Are you in chicago because we don’t have a mag capacity limits in illinois to my knowledge

[@GeneralJameson]

Illinois don't have a capacity band unless you live in Chicago. I live in cook county I can still get 30 round magazines no problem just got to shop around a little, some places don't like shipping to Illinois.

[@flawless1up]

@@GeneralJameson cook/crook county sucks. i was at rural king in Indiana Saturday getting cheap ammo and watched a lady get approved for a gun in 3 seconds. walked right out with it. where do u shoot at? im trying to find a good outdoor range before winter

[@GeneralJameson]

@@flawless1up Buffalo Range in Ottawa is awesome and is also open year round. For indoor I have been going to Shoot Point Blank.

[@flawless1up]

@@GeneralJameson im closer to eagle sports range so i did the vip there. i go 2 to 3 times a week on the way to work. i rented the dd pdw from shoot point blank this month.... it was nice. i should have bought it

[@Joestacemazjojo]

I just purchased a dozen new mags, magpul 3s. Some are 10rd, and some are 10/30 rd as I live in NY (besides the point). I ran all brand new through one time, no problems. I then had one steel mag( ran that). Reloaded the pmags and not one of them will sit right and if I smack them in hard enough the bolt carrier gets jammed up. The steel is the only one to now feed. The same day I ran my ruger ranch bolt action which also came w pmag and have had problems day one with the bolt needing a lot of force to run( this same day it jammed completely and wouldn’t move at all with mag in place). I’ve found hexmag $8, pmags $12, steel $18. I’m currently thinking of abandoning them all except for steel except those are twice the money. Any thoughts, suggestions? I’ve since seen a ton online about pmag3s having issues. Price is a factor but not when needing my rifle for protection and having it not work.

[@jsanchez034]

I can’t find that websit brown Ls? Can u put it in the description?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Brownells

[@nikolaisemenoff9092]

I love Lancer mags. Using 20 rounds for range in 5.56 and 300 blk. 30 rounds for long storage

[@simmonsrbcc]

I don't see the war belt on gadsden dynamics site - it appears they aren't making them right now. Do you have any other recommendations for a belt?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@simmonsrbcc i don't. I'm actually selling 2 of these warbelts right now because I have quite a few, but i haven't bought on in quite some time so I'm not sure what the coolest belts on the market anymore.

[@BM205]

Add Strike Industries and Troy to the crappy mag list. They both feed well but if you load them and shake they both vomit rounds. Y'all stay safe and God bless

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Never buy anything Troy- they are the enemy

[@BM205]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Really? Good to know.

[@trey9971]

I like the stainless nato mag you pay a couple dollars more but last forever

[@myanaloglife9450]

I’m looking for a single/two point sling which one of your slings would be the one you think would work best if you don’t have sing/two point then single point sling thank looking to try and support

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I dont make a 1 point or a 2 point convertible sling- But my 2 point speed sling works similar to a one point sling- except one that works well. All the transition speed and ease without any of the retention issues.

[@jasonroberts9357]

Great review brother(4 years later)! Have you heard anything negative about Brownell's version of AR mags?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Not specifically no

[@jasonroberts9357]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Cool. I'm going to give them a try...Thanks for your reply!

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@jasonroberts9357 my pleasure!

[@FDCNC]

USMC and Army both did magazine test. Gen M3 PMAG came out on top by a good margin. Buy Pmags, end of story.

[@34dawgsgo]

Thinking of replacing all my Amend2 Mod 2 mags with Gen 3 Magpuls.

[@2amichaelj]

Magazines are so inexpensive for ARs at least, I don't see the point in saving $1-$2. Lancer mags, Magpul gen 3s, H&K steel mags and Okay Surefeeds are my favorite and all sub $15 magazines. I like Lancers as I do color coordinate different colored magazines for different rifles that like and are zeroed for different grain weights and types for my different ARs.

[@Jockymcbock]

Oh man would i love to see where you are getting half of those mags sub 15$

[@2amichaelj]

@@Jockymcbock just wait for retailers to have sales. I generally buy them from gunmagwarehouse on a holiday sale. Regular pricing is for the birds. Set aside some money and buy them on Labor Day, Memorial Day, Halloween. If you buy them at one time it saves on shipping too.

[@Ideo7Z]

Okay Industries which makes Surefeed G.I. mags is getting out of that part of their business by the end of 2022. Get em while you can. They're still excellently priced at 12 bucks.

[@racamp4467]

I just got a bunch of tgese lancer mags. I have only took them out twice. Do you have any updated videos on the lancers? I also acquired a bunch of the new OKay industries mags witch are my favorite mag.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I dont- they dont go in and out of mag pouches as easily as magpuls- they are a tad bigger, so i traded them. They are excellent mags though! I have a bunch of OLD Okay industries mags haha

[@racamp4467]

I have been using the Fab Defense single mag pouch as a grab and go and tgey fit fone in there. I have also been running them in the Esstac mag pouches. Esstac are my go to mag pouches. I do have the old milsurp three shingle pouch that hold 6 mags witch are also great.

[@nicknaylor9895]

Sometimes you can get away with buying cheap mags (army surplus), if you understand that you’re only delaying paying for quality. The nice thing about army surplus aluminum mags is that so long as their feed lips are good, you can fix them up with new followers, springs, and base plates. Plus a new coat of some MoS2 dry film lube and they look brand new. I just did all that to the first 4 mags I ever bought and I’m really happy with them. They went from Bubba-camo dysfunctional trash to sleek high performance mags: brand new springs, yellow followers, L base plates, all made by magpul. Instead of having to chuck them and being down to a dozen good mags, I instead have 17 quality mags via some investment and a little bit of work. They can be not only serviceable for duty but also give your other mags in rotation some relief. I know you said you like to keep your mags loaded and that’s your prerogative, but I like to rotate mine to extend their service life. I figure that if I paid for good pmags, D+H metal mags, and lancer mags, I’m gonna take care of them and not add wear n tear when I’m not using them. Accordingly, the surplus mags I refurbished take on some of the load. That’s just my opinion, thanks for the video.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I totally agree about buying service mags IF! a person knows what to look for. Most of my viewers won't know how to look at service mags and decide if the feed lips are good or if the bodies might be damaged. I KIND of know- but I have been wrong twice before on what I thought would be good mags. So as a general rule I would suggest avoiding doing that- but I do it myself. You have to find service mags REALLY cheap, or else if you get it wrong a few times like I did you might not actually be saving any $. Fwiw- i believe if you do some research you will find that rotating, loading, and unloading mags will wear them faster. Ymmv. I dont care enough to start a fight over it lol Thanks for the comment.

[@nicknaylor9895]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors fwiw, I keep 4 mags loaded for 3 months at a time, then they don’t see stress for another year. I don’t get many opportunities to shoot (I live in a big city) so the loaded ones generally just sit loaded until it’s time to rotate. But in any event, I can’t say definitively whether constant compression will damage magazines, so I’m not trying to say your way is wrong. I just have my way of doing things, that’s all. Keep up the good work man.

[@yellowdog762jb]

Staying loaded / compressed doesn't stress the springs. The number of compression / decompression cycles wears out springs. So loading them and unloading them every so often, just to "give them a rest", vs leaving them loaded, is actually harder on the springs. We're probably only talking about an extra 4 to 6 cycles a year, so that's not really a big deal in the scheme of things. But don't worry about leaving them loaded for years at a time. If you have a couple of thousand rounds set back, I don't think that you need them all in mags. I would agree that any prepper worth their salt should have a full combat load in loaded mags for each rifle they have. Plus you probably want another full set of mags to practice with. Showing up to training with them already loaded is a must. Other than that, I find storing extra ammo in the factory packaging, or in sealed ammo boxes more convenient than storing loaded mags. It also makes it easier for me personally to try to shoot my oldest ammo first in training. Twice I've "lent" ammo to folks for training. They paid me back w new ammo they obtained shortly after the training. Having it in factory boxes was more convenient. That's one of those KZbin " Yeah but stories ". It probably won't happen to many folks. But just sharing. I have a variety of different mags, including rebuilt GI mags, and even some that are stamped Law Enforcement Only that I bought after the Clinton gun ban expired. Metal mags fit into most pouches better, and it's often possible to load 2 mags per pouch, which I like. And they are very easy to pull out for a reload. They also store in a marginally smaller space. Plastic eventuality breaks down with age and heat. So if you're prepping to pass stuff to your kids and grandkids, maybe you'll want to throw some metal mags into the plan, just in case. I use Pmags for my hunting rifles because they are more silent when carried loosely in a backpack, plus that is the only time I use those little covers they come with. Brownells has a supply contract with one of the branches of the military. I forget which one. But their metal mags often go on sale and they have worked well for me. Be sure and test every mag that you buy. Even the ones that you plan to rathole away. You want to know for sure that they'll work if you pull them out 5, 10, or 20 years from now.

[@nicknaylor9895]

@@yellowdog762jb I actually now have enough mags such that the ones I have in rotation 3 months at a time only compress/decompress every 3 years. So it’s only an added cycle every 3 years. I have something like 60 and will probably buy more. Longevity by volume is my philosophy.

[@yellowdog762jb]

@@nicknaylor9895 Awesome!

[@x0j]

you should talk about ar-10 mags, just got a couple kac mags, man were they pricey

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Ar308 mags are very dependent on which ar308 they are in. There are 2 ar308 magwells, ar10 and sr25 or dpms pattern. Im not up to speed on ar10 magwell magazines but i think they are a thing of the past for the most part.

[@fatefinger]

I got 5 magazines in a trade. 2 IWI, 2 Korean and one no name. They all sucked. I have since destroyed all but the IWI by shooting them until they broke apart. Will be destroying the other two in due time.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Good to know! Thats a shame to hear about iwi!

[@ratagris21]

The IWI Orlites are good for a range mag. Pre Magpul polymer.

[@Nattleby]

Are the tan followers anti tilt?

[@ratagris21]

Suppose to be an upgrade.

[@Nattleby]

I like the old green Hungarian AK 5 cell vinyl pouches with shoulder strap. They store AR mags great, and are easy to grab and go.

[@armedfarm3429]

It really helps when you put yer mags on the ground when filming. Works great for the guns too!

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Ok

[@Genghis_Khaan_]

1:34 same, I hated the M4 and still believe AR platforms are inferior. Only thing they got going for them is the ergonomics but that’s about it.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I used to agree- now I don't. In fact I can't think of any long term application where I would choose anything else. Took me a long time and a lot of training to come around though.

[@fivefivesix-sevensixtwo4114]

All the CA compliant P Mags I've bought come glued at the bottom. I don't like that. I prefer Lancer mags or even Hex Mags. At least Hex Mags use a 10 round limiter and spring (which can be replaced like many of us did during freedom week). Never had a problem with Lancer, Hex Mags, or Daniel Defense mags.

[@alphawolfgang173]

ive heard that a number of military issued mags were just too old and used. mags are meant to be replaced.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Thats true of EVERYTHING in the military.

[@kdawson020279]

If you ever want to part with the Center Industries mags, I want one. I used to deliver their mail back in the late 90s and early 00s before I moved indoors. It's about a mile and a half from the first post office I ever worked in. I did a double take trying to make sure I was reading it correctly. Since they're LE mags from the ban years, I have seen pics but by the time I bought my first black rifle new 30 round mags were cheap. I have a ton of D&H mags with the Teflon finish and Magpul follower and Gen 2 windowless Pmags. I keep my box of home defense rounds in a Colt 20rd mag that's at least 35 years old my dad had. He is a Mini 14 guy and didn't need it. The 20 is great using my rest to check my accuracy. It allows more adjustment.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I could prob do that, shoot me an email at [e-mail]

[@oculosprudentium8486]

Plastics will tend to be bulkier to give it strength, not so much for the metal mags. Therefore metal mags will fit more comfortable in the mag pouches

[@dude_mccallaster]

I know this is old but don’t overlook Hex Mags. I’ve have about 12 or so and they’ve worked very well for me, also usually a few dollars cheaper than P- Mags

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

So through my training groups I have personally seen a TON of failures from hexmags from multiple sources. Normally that would motivate me to buy the hexmags then rum 500 or $1000 worth of ammo through them in a class to verify- But for me it isn't worth it just to save a few dollars per mag as compared to pmags. Which is kind of the idea of the video- back in the day I paid like $30 a mag in Afghanistan and that's what people were used to paying for mags- but that's not where we are at. There is no reason to save "a few dollars per mag" when a combat proven mag is $10-15 anyways. I haven't bought mags in awhile so idk if that is even what they are anymore.

[@motohead077]

How did you color the Pmag, Paint, dye? See you covered the top. Was thinking that if painted them, would probably have to cover the base plate so it doesn't get painted shut.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Just spray paint, dont worry about the baseplate, you cant paint it shut

[@rustyshackleford1877]

OKAY industries, Magpul and Lancer is all i have. Lancer doesn't hold an empty bolt open.

[@cwatson42785]

Have you tried the hexfly series 2 mags? Seems to be almost on par with the pmags and Lancer mags but only 10$ each. I'm gonna try some. I ordered some Lancer and hexflys to try them both out. Also you had mentioned having 1-2k rounds on hand and was wondering do you ever guy online? And do you order in bulk when you do? (500-1000 rounds)

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I havent tried them, but i would be wary- lmk how it goes for you. Test them hard, because many mags will be reliable out of the box for a good while- but then when they are loaded for a long time and exposed to dirt and extreme heat they become literal trash. I like to order in bulk online, yeah. The source always varies.

[@mikebeddingfield2144]

I don't look at the name i look at the quality , but i will tell you if you have a ruger mini 14 your best bet is to stick with mag's made by ruger for it , with a ar15 i have found most will work it's just some will last much longer than others, an for the money i prefer military issue aluminium case, you can always find new springs and followers and referb them when needed.

[@cascaderetriever7618]

Anyone who knows about magazines, knows Duramags (stainless) are by far the best.

[@andyevans6498]

Right on! I totally agree!

[@Ron55669]

Magpul,Lancer and okay e 2’s are the way to go.

[@rustyshackleford4299]

Any particular reason you prefer Okay's E2 over their Surefeed? Thanks.

[@Joe-ie8vk]

The only mag I have ever had issues with are the metal ones. I have many different types of polymer mags magpul mft hex they all work well for me. It’s the older aluminum gi mags I have had issues with or anything marked pro mag stay clear of that shit for real for any firearm. I know this video is older but I can get the gen2 p mags for 11 12 bucks hex for 10 at my local sporting good store so I bought a shit load. Not a single issue with any of them. Do you need to have the most hardest battle tested mag? Personally no I don’t think so they need to work of courses.As a civilian more geared towards protecting my community or who knows what else these days I don’t see myself slamming them into walls or climbing mountains of Afghanistan no it’s a urban environment for most people in America.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@Joe-ie8vk I don't necessarily disagree with you but I do have 1 caveat to add- The civilian fighting for a community or without military support is 10x harder on gear than a soldier. I guarantee and promise this is true and I have seen it- when you have no resupply, less training, less support, less backup- You become more desperate and stuff HAS to last longer. I didn't need to add that but maybe it'll help with perspective.

[@Joe-ie8vk]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors no that’s good point and I don’t wanna say I overlooked that but maybe didn’t give it as much Thought as I should have no resupply no armor to fix something that breaks. I have extra parts for my rifle gas tube upper and lower parts kits that kinda stuff a couple dozen mags. But I’m probably still underestimating the whole on my own. Dig your channel man good advice thanks.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@Joe-ie8vk my pleasure!

[@chltmdwp]

I love my lancer mags!

[@jklop7841]

I didn’t know Jordan Peterson had a gun channel.

[@richardturk7162]

Wouldn't trust my life to Pmags. I had lots of issues with them not fitting my rifle or dropping free. The GI mags always fit and drop free. Never had any issue with the followers that were in them even the 20 rounders made in the mid 60s with the aluminum followers they just work. Lancer are great mags and never had any issues with them. You can catch them on sale sometimes so they are a great buy.

[@DCCHANNELGUNS]

Great Video 👍👍 I!!!!

[@GeneralRamstein]

P-Mags are super cheap and they are considered some of the best mags available.

[@ellerybice3787]

Plastic can be sanded smooth, do you dare?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I do not

[@g3attack]

I got Lancer Mags for 10 bucks a piece!!!

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Score

[@BrianCervantes-bg1cm]

Got mine for $5 lol

[@Burtme-D4M]

No love for steel duramags?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I think duramags have a good rep, although i think the new ones have all kinds of gaudy annoying jimping. Arent duramags made by okay industries?

[@Burtme-D4M]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors no they are made by C Products Defense

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@Burtme-D4M oh! Yeah c products is g2g

[@masterxiong7368]

Dude I love buying cheap mags. So long as they function as needed. There are lots of good ones out there for under $10. I trust

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

There is a difference between cheap amd affordable that you should look up

[@masterxiong7368]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors just bought a dozen for $6.50 each. Cheap and affordable. Works great. There are cheap ones out there, works as good if not better than some of the big name ones like lancer.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@masterxiong7368 again there is a difference between cheap and affordable- but thanks for telling us you dont train or have serious intentions for your toys. 👌🏻

[@masterxiong7368]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors again I say, dude I love cheap mags so long as they function as it should. Lol bruh you playing semantics now. Chill

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

My first comment stated that you should understand the difference between cheap and affordable because that is what the video is about. If you cant figure that out how do you expect people to believe that you are a good judge of whether or not a mag functions "as it should"?

[@irafowlerjr.7492]

great info, thanks

[@dangerdoberman]

I've had some issues with the GI mags by failure to feed and what not. Never had issues with Pmags, and they're all I buy now. Never used a Lancer mag before. I reckon I'll give them a shot if I can find some. Much obliged >:0

[@Oldspartan65]

Only use cash the man is watching

[@Fedaykin8]

PSA always has stupidly good deals on last gen PMags. I got 10 M2 PMags last sale for $90 for 10 (it's still going afaik)... the new M3s were about $15 there and Lancers were $15 last time I checked.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Brownells has the m3 and the lancer on sale for $13 right now. Thats a good deal on M2's!

[@bangbang44500]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Botach has lancers for $12 for the black opaque and smoke for $15

[@brianquigley7336]

Like gen 3 P mags. Don't care for Lancer. The springs are noisy. Hexmags are good. Amend 2 also.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I have heard too much about hexmags and amend2 to touch em with a 10ft pole. Unless i can no longer buy pmags 🤷‍♂️

[@brianquigley7336]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Hweird . I've had only good experiences with them.

[@slick73nova]

What? You always keep a round in the chamber when handling your firearms?

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Defensive firearms- absolutely.

[@slick73nova]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors All of my firearms are defensive arms. Lol even my shotguns...Birds were attacking deer was rushing ...pew pew... My "uncle" went to the range with his 9 and had a good ol day plinking. Got home and did what he should have and was preparing to clean it. He slid his hand over the barrel while trying to rack the slide and some how shot a hole in the meat of his hand. He broke the golden rule....Always make sure your firearms are clear before you leave the range...Luckily for him he gets a second chance to get it right. 🤣🤣 I follow two rules. My arms are always checked clear before and after use and I keep my booger hook off the bang switch until I'm ready to pew pew. Unless its my truck gun or in my house in which case those are ready to full send at the drop of a hat.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

There are 4 firearms rules, if you follow them, nobody gets shot. 0 chance that ill show up to a range unloaded, and 0 chance ill leave unloaded. Clean guns in the safe are unloaded though, because there is no chance that ill need to grab them and use them quickly.

[@slick73nova]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors My mags will be loaded in both instances but nothing chambered. I think it i stepped out on the range without my breach open, showing clear, the range master would kick me out. For what purpose do you leave a round chambered when handling or demonstrating a firearm? Would you hand it off to an amateur shooter while chambered? You didn't specify your 4 rules. Were you in the military?

[@jackmcgramm2259]

All guns are loaded until you physically pick it up and check to see if its unloaded. Then check again. If you still think there is a one in a billion chance it is loaded, check a third time. Only then do you perform any manipulation of it, dry fire, etc. The second you set it down, look away from it, get distracted, or in any way turn your attention from it, it immediately becomes loaded again.

[@alaskanalain]

My p mags rattle like a rattle snake having an epileptic fit with a rattle can in its mouth, and that is if you give it the slightest shake.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@@alaskanalain sounds like you got chimag copies.

[@johnshallenberger9013]

issued AR? did you mean .....M 4 , M 16 A2

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Is that the only issued Armalite Rifle pattern firearms that you know about? Is that what you came here to brag about, is the fact that you know the designation of 2 current issue AR rifles?

[@johnshallenberger9013]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors nope not at all just curious as to details ....I thought your rifles in the video were cool and a pretty good video altogether . relax iam just sure iam on your side , long live the republic

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

I gotcha- Long live the republic, if we can keep it!

[@eltenda]

great video

[@animalmother8117]

The steel case ammo I’m seeing here nullifies everything you have to say.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

That says more about you than me 👌🏻👏🏻

[@juliemunoz2762]

If you were U.S. military, you were never issued an A.R. 15.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Might as well have been

[@juliemunoz2762]

@@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors Perhaps a Modern AR 15 would be a better weapon to have vs an M16A1. The M16A2 was a reliable rifle. My only complaint is the 3rd burst not cycling completely and hanging up on #2 then only getting a single shot the next time I fired and expecting a burst.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

@juliemunoz2762 the only difference is 3 round burst or full auto. As a general rule only pogs on the range used either anyways. Your socom dudes, rangers, infantryman, etc only use semi auto. So the difference between an m16, m4, and ar15 is one of semantics and psyops

[@brianunderwood7437]

I’m in the process of selling every “assault style “ rifle that I own. And I’m giving mags away for free . I’ve already sold more than half of these rifles. I’m not keeping any names or addresses of the people that I’m selling these rifles to. I’m only asking that they show me a valid concealed carry permit. That way, I know that I’m not selling them to a criminal. I’m giving the high capacity mags away to the people who are buying these rifles from me. I’m selling these rifles to keep the government from getting their hands on them. Good luck with finding them BATFE.

[@norman6694]

LOL

[@j0ndav1s]

I never thought about it but a yankee swap of guns would be a great idea...

[@breckenridgelong7692]

If you can try to sell them to fellow patriots. They are coming after our guns because they are afraid of an armed citizen protecting their rights.

[@flawless1up]

what? come out on my boat, we might have an accident and "lose" our guns though

[@oscarpuente2029]

outstanding

[@hugosinclair6798]

wanna know why the USMC adopted Pmags for about 2 weeks and immediately went back to standard GI mags? because plastic mags are junk regardless, use metal mags, save money, save time, save your life, don't buy plastic junk,

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

The USMC didn't adopt pmags for 2 weeks- they adopted them for years. Thanks for sharing the stupid though, wouldn't want you to mislead people without first warning them of your intelligence level.

[@jeffharper862]

Mag live's matter!

[@Jay-xh6py]

You buy left over military contract mags for 8-9$. End of story

[@CombatArtTraining]

💪💪💪

[@RAYRAY-yt3hz]

👍🇺🇸🗽

[@dgreen341]

Lancer mags suck. They dont work with stripper clips. They take more force to strip round from mags. Try asc stainless

[@geraldmiller5232]

i believe that the aluminum mags i buy from defense solutions group are the best. they have magpul followers and i have never had any problems with them. so there.

[@alextnasty]

What your comment should say is learn immediate action drills. Not all of us can afford expensive mags.

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

My comment is people should work on the discipline needed to pay attention- This video isn't promoting expensive mags.

[@Hen993]

Just bought two psa aluminum mags PURE JUNK

[@Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors]

Really? Who made them? Should be stamped on the baseplate. I can probably find out if they say psa. Why are they junk?