Don’t Buy Into This Big Lie About UnitedHealthcare CEO’s Assassination

[@ShainCaldwell]

When insurance companies deny basic claims using loopholes. Then reporting $400+ billion in profit, I can see why someone might be angry enough to llik the upper management.

[@sitka49]

I seen this first hand with my brother and lung cancer - where my sister - law ( and she was no light weight for advocating either) fought tooth and nail with insurance companies to pay out whenever my brother needed treatment. The hospital would say "bring your credit card they haven't approved it yet." my sil would say I cant imagine people that have to advocate for themselves that are sick to get the Ins to cover treatment. - I think the insurance companies just want you to die.

[@ShainCaldwell]

@sitka49 Agreed, they want you to die but first make that premium!

[@smugdug]

Yeah no one reported 400 billion in profit. Maybe revenue.

[@idahardy4052]

No.

[@ShainCaldwell]

@smugdug I could have it wrong

[@gaellemaz3727]

I am Canadian. It is getting really bad here when you need medical care. I have had cancer twice and luckily it was in very early stage. Both times not requiring treatments. I am against M.A.I.D program. I was a history teacher. Isn’t that what Hitler did in Germany before the war? He systematically euthanized the elderly, the sick and the disabled. I am very worried. We need to change our government here. The coalition government is taking us down a very dangerous road.

[@ginabisaillon2894]

Boo!

[@pkmachinegun]

this is why some people in canada are literally moving to russia lol.

[@ginabisaillon2894]

@@pkmachinegun 🤣🤣🤣

[@adamb8317]

@@pkmachinegunWhen Russia is better it’s pretty rough

[@lasttrimestr49califos89]

Cancer survivor myself. There are no easy answers to the question of who should be the provider of health care. But I do know this....if you privatize health care, you get profit motive and if you socialize healthcare, you get the endless government bureaucracy because its got to provide free stuff to too many people. I'm not sure there is an answer.

[@Chamando11]

This isn’t a left vs right issue. It’s a CLASS issue. Rich vs poor. Elite vs common. We don’t have to condone the assassin’s actions in order to acknowledge there’s an issue here. Stop trying to divide us into left vs right and distracting us from the real fight. That’s exactly what the powers that be want and are encouraging.

[@darlacox]

"Katniss, remember who the real enemy is."

[@belindamiller6349]

I'm a conservative white woman. I am a registered nurse. I have no faith in the medical community and the health insurance industry. I do not condone murder but I definitely understand the utter torture the health care and insurance industry dish out. I also don't believe this case is as simple as the story they (law enforcement, FBI,media) are dishing out. Something smells bad...

[@True_Heretic]

You're right. Klaven is so doing that.

[@SecularPhilosophy]

are you adovating for the working class of the world....uniting?

[@will7its]

Has anyone seen the body???

[@kirbymurdstone4925]

I wish the we would stop calling insurance companies "health care companies". Hospitals, Doctors nurses etc. are healthcare. Insurance companies pay for healthcare. so many people say "the cost of healthcare" when they mean the cost of insurance. If we don't start separating the two, the issue of rising costs both for healthcare and insurance, wont be solved.

[@bobvylan7215]

How will defining them change the costs? Insurance is part of healthcare. Literally. They turn down a request, you don’t get healthcare. They accept, you do. If you say ok, one’s insurance and ones the actual care, how does that get the cost down?

[@kirbymurdstone4925]

@@bobvylan7215 the regulations that govern insurance companies are written by the insurance industry, it allows insurance companies to monopolize the markets. They also all use the same actuarial tables to set their pricing. In any other business this is called collusion. Monopolies and collusion always drive up prices. Actual compitition lowers prices. These same insurance companies, charge doctors outrageous prices for malpractice insurance, which has to be passed on to the customer and back to the insurance company. Health care care is expensive because insurance companies want it to be, it makes them more profit. If doctors and insurance companies were more subject to free market forces, the prices would come down.

[@whousa642]

incorrect

[@sgtskysyndrome]

@@bobvylan7215 You clearly don't understand what you're saying. The question of whether insurance covers your procedure or not is a separate question from whether you get the procedure (a decision that is solely within your power). The idea that your access to healthcare is automatically foreclosed because an insurance company denies a claim shows that you don't know how this works. Are you still on your parents' insurance plan?

[@bobvylan7215]

@sgtskysyndrome I'm on my work plan, Whole Foods. Last year my back surgery got denied and it would have cost me around 22 grand out of pocket. So yea, that killed the Healthcare. You sound like your on your parents plan, or someone else pays for you. What insurance has been denied you, and you were able to just pocket up for the procedure? Please inform me.

[@uat591]

Why should an insurance company dictate which medical procedure is necessary? Supporting this system is sick and I am Canadian and right leaning.

[@smugdug]

Because it’s called underwriting. If they didn’t do it they’d go out of business and no one would get coverage.

[@ReneMaas-ic3lv]

@@smugdug Bull, that is how you calculate the amount of premiums so you do not go bankrupt as a company, if do that wrong and do not form reserves for a bad year you should go bankrupt in first place and deserve to as a company. Making over 20 Billion profits though does not look like underwriting too low, after as well paying your CEO's very well, paying out 100 of millions to politicians and lobbyists and getting taken to court regularly with the accompanying costs of that as well by denying coverage of paying clients for something they really need and already paid for is not a sign that you cannot afford to pay the costs, but more a sign of wanting to enrich your investors at the cost of your clients. 20B is quite the yearly buffer on your underwritings after those excessive costs. 🤪 Now just imagine if the combined profits and administrative costs of those companies that are 16% percent points higher as medicare administrative and other extra costs would all be paid into one pot and used to at least pay for medical costs of people who paid for their insurance, with as bonus that the medical hospitals and such would also need to make way less expenses to fill out forms for those insurance companies and communicate with them when they play their delay, deny and defend games to improve their profits (the time doctors have to spend on that are also part of your cost as healthcare client now, it is not free). As an extra bonus it would also mean less kickback for corrupt politicians and need less judges since they would not be needed for those cases brought against health insurance companies. Win-win-win. Sorry but I do not really see a good need to pay heavily to a basically unnecessary middleman so shareholders have a great investment. Healthcare insurance companies in US are a great business for investors and a hellish deal for its consumers as it stands.

[@BobbyMack]

You have the same problem in Canada. Ultimately the state decides which medical procedures are necessary.

[@mantaraymartin8035]

Same reason they decide whether your car gets repaired, or your burned-down house, or your luggage when you claim on travel insurance. Etc. Suicide and murder (by a beneficiary) is NOT covered by life insurance! Why's that?

[@Frances-e7x]

Everyone must learn self care for themselfs Insurance is often not good This murder is not okay

[@boogyfatmccoy6347]

You don't have a clue, if you think it's just liberals who support Luigi.

[@crashtestdummy2337]

I do not support luigi. I hope he rots in jail for life. At the same time, we do need to change the health insurance industry.

[@Dollface98]

@@crashtestdummy2337maybe this is the catalyst if we stand behind Luigi

[@Corn_Pops_Rusty_Razor]

Immoral people on both sides. Killing people to start/spread/for a cause is terrorism.

[@adamb8317]

@@boogyfatmccoy6347 it’s also leftists, anarchists, communists, and fascists. Just not conservatives.

[@Elemental_Entity]

For the first time in many many years, the right and the left are in the same boat and on the same side.

[@EDKguy]

Pay your premium and don't get sick or don't pay a premium and don't get sick.

[@saml8967]

32% of claims have been denied for medical treatments by United Healthcare despite people paying their premiums.

[@Rhond-i7r]

Why are the companies allowed to buy up all hospitals in cities and they have no competition.

[@Stevarooni]

Monopolies are born from government regulation. If a company is growing massively, suddenly, there're probably government regulations that prevent competitors from competing with them.

[@whousa642]

nonsense

[@Aegius]

Actually government owns most of the hospitals

[@darlacox]

Because this isn't a free market. Too much corruption in government.

[@SeanMendicino-n3d]

Because they do it to make money. The buy the Hospitals, and then sell the land on which it is located, and then they have the Hospital pay for the lease.

[@Gandoff2000]

In the US when someone does a bad job they get fired not killed.

[@larryphelps6607]

tell that to John F. Kennedy.

[@Gandoff2000]

@larryphelps6607 It is not the American way except for communist Americans and whacko Americans.

[@stevecanyon4577]

You must be a Democrat. Ever read a history book?

[@mikelynn8977]

Technically, the ceo didn't do a bad job. His job is to maximize shareholder wealth. Does Medicare and the VA deny medical care?

[@Gandoff2000]

@@mikelynn8977 I think the VA is getting better but I have heard stories of people dying while waiting on red tape.

[@Boo123-wb2mp]

Andrew, I think it is terrible that the CEO was murdered, but don't you think it is weird that the suspect was carrying his manifesto in his backpack?? Who does that?

[@jimcorbett3764]

The unspoken message for this whole situation is; this country needs to get healthier. The healthier we are, the less demand for healthcare. As demand decreases, costs go down.

[@darlacox]

In a free market capitalist society that would be true. In this corpocracy it would only mean more profits for the CEOs and shareholders.

[@flexibleaspect]

@@darlacox As AI increases efficiency ten thousand times from where we are today, healthcare will be basically free. We'll have medical pods that you go to once a month for a full body scan to detect cancer and other issues at first onset and immediately cut out the bad cells. If the assassin had used his intelligence and education wisely, he could have helped us get there sooner... instead he threw that possibility away in a fit of anger.

[@gurugru5958]

True. There's a reason healthcare wasn't such a huge topic of conversation, even when it was less accessible.

[@smugdug]

@@darlacoxNo he’s right. Less demand, lower prices.

[@darlacox]

@@smugdug that is definitely the way capitalism is supposed to work. But if you believe it does, I'm sorry, but you haven't been paying attention. The reason Brian led the company to double their denials was not to lower premiums it was to bring profit to the shareholders. Tell me when the price of anything has ever gone down.

[@robertgraham2656]

If only everyone understood the world like Klavan. Then, maybe we'd stop believing the impossible promises of politicians and start relying on ourselves, instead of the system. There are much better ways to provide healthcare but nobody wants to implement them because politicians would lose power.

[@quentenabbarno]

These guys act like only the left gets denied

[@emperorarasaka]

Insurance is inherently a scam-ish industry because in this trade, the product (promise of covering your costs) comes far, far later than the purchase (years of premiums). By the time you need them to cover your costs, your money has already been sent to them. Nobody wants to part with their resources, and the insurer can just reject your claim at their whim.

[@billm1866]

Why are doctors all living in exclusive neighborhoods?

[@STEM-Travel]

They're rich.

[@stevejette2329]

bill - As a Chiropractor for 39 years, I PROMISE you that doctors of any type are NOT "all living in exclusive neighborhoods". And now there are fewer in 'general practice' because people want 'specialists' for every small event.

[@mickmandela6995]

In the 60s we had a good healthcare system that was affordable and people were takin care of! So now many people can’t afford insurance because it’s all about money not health care of people that’s the main problem

[@KatyKettler]

As a family, we have been devoted supporters of all your endeavors. Letting Brett Cooper go was a huge mistake. We are waiting for an explanation before pulling all of our support.

[@KirisutonoNeko]

Isn’t she getting married? Do we know she didn’t just want to focus on other aspects of her life?

[@derrik6614]

She wasn't let go from what I can see from her own post on X

[@jasoncdebussy]

She says it was her decision

[@fritzidler9871]

Yes. Getting the government out of healthcare will lower costs. Saying any different is like arguing against gravity.

[@whousa642]

well said

[@GreggWalken-xd3qv]

Yeah, tell that to the idiots who claim Tr didn't fix obamacare. Who created that problem?

[@somenygaard]

💯

[@BillieArd]

Insurance companies are all for making profits....if you look at how much money United Healthcare donated to the Democratic party, Kamala Harris...you might change your tune on a lot of what has been said. Many folks are living through medical emergencies in our American society (more now than ever) and they are pissed. In fact, Americans have a shorter life span than those in the UK etc...says a lot doesn't it.

[@VinnyMartello]

Gravity is a myth created by the lizard people!

[@Liberty-rn4wy]

Medical prices were not exploding until 1965, when the US federal government got heavily involved. It is the same with education. Everything the government touches results in exploding costs and worse services.

[@samann9]

This issue is not about left versus right; it is fundamentally a matter of bottom versus top. The wealthy can afford to fall sick and receive treatment, while those at the bottom often lack quality healthcare and, consequently, the basic right to live. This situation must change, or we risk a repetition of events similar to the French Revolution the 1790s. There is no shortage of resources for providing adequate healthcare for all. The issue lies solely in the absence of an effective strategy. Currently, privatized healthcare is evidently not functioning as intended.

[@johnbruenn8755]

Well said! 👍💯

[@darlacox]

The absence of a strategy lies solely with greed. I believe it is functioning as intended and the intention is to make shareholders richer.

[@AceofAces2]

What a communist thing to say

[@RayHicks-gl7gm]

Klaven and the rest of the Daily Wire crew providing a helpful tutorial as to why I'm not a 'conservative'.

[@margaretsparksrittenhouse8787]

Like Medicare doesn’t deny coverage, 🤣

[@stevejette2329]

marg - They do. What is their % ? How much do their CEOs make ?

[@beesarebeautiful4175]

Please be specific - Medicare Advantage denies quite a bit from what I've read. Original Medicare - you basically know exactly what is covered if you read your benefits book and you don't have to get preapproval. If you have a question (and original Medicare) you just call and find out if what you are wondering about is covered.

[@stevejette2329]

@@beesarebeautiful4175 Medicare denies about 10%. Not 32%

[@stevejette2329]

@@beesarebeautiful4175 Medicare Advantage denied 7.4% in 2023. Aug 08, 2024

[@beesarebeautiful4175]

@@stevejette2329 So MA denied 7.4%. Lets just round down to 7%. That's 7 claims per 100. Now that's 70,000 claims per million processed that were denied. I am not clear on your figure when you stated "Medicare denies about 10% " - were you referring to original Medicare or Medicare Advantage - there is a huge difference. Also it depends on why the claims were denied.

[@GigglingReaper]

With respect Andrew it's not just a leftist That celebrating it I know plenty of my friends Family and coworkers who voted for trump Who are not necessarily celebrating it but are definitely not crying over the death of the CEO Who is responsible for the mass denial of life saving care for millions of Americans

[@pkmachinegun]

I think you are on to something. I dont think this is a left vs right issue. I think this is an issue of people knowing that the system is broken but not how to fix it and everyone dealing with it in different ways. Making it political is not the answer.

[@benwolk2028]

I've also seen a lot of (to be frank) glee from conservatives...which is discouraging because we should be better than that. Many of the leftists cheering this man's murder are the same anti-life sorts who cheer on abortion.

[@ndb232]

This kind of staff destroys society, while i feel you i don't want to live in a world where we off anybody we hate, i feel abut this the same way i felt about the trump assassination attempt, it shouldn't be allowed in a modern society..

[@sgtskysyndrome]

@@ndb232 apparently, your view (which I also share) is the view that we are not allowed to have. If you call any of the people sympathizing with this to the carpet, they will show just how morally bankrupt they are while they are attempting to force you to remain silent instead of stating the obvious. This behavior was unjustifiable.

[@darlacox]

Me

[@carnakthemagnificent336]

US entitlements MUST be reformed. That's unavoidable - but who will tell citizens that truth?

[@MassiveTrackHunter]

You can bet this is a distraction to keep people from noticing that he was under investigation for INSIDER TRADING. If he was dirty enough to do that, he was likely also tipping other very dangerous people off so that THEY COULD ALSO INSIDER TRADE. Did one of these criminals just shut him up, and write silly words on the casings to mislead the public into this dumb discussion instead? BET ON IT.

[@benwolk2028]

What is your proof or evidence for this statement?

[@nicklowe_]

@@benwolk2028 No of course not. The onus is on you to disprove this stupidity now. Did you not see the all caps?

[@MassiveTrackHunter]

@benwolk2028 @benwolk2028 many past events prompt everyone to question what is really behind these assassinations. It is just a hunch based on what we have all seen. For one, the speed with which the media ran with this "evil insurers deserved it" narrative instead of waiting for investigations to proceed. Not much mention of him recently coming under investigation for Insider Trading, but they sure are happy to go on and on about "evil insurers". For another, the JFK assassination that STILL has about 10% of docs unreleased after more than half a century, even though the govt still denies any part in that one... so what is there to hide? Also how the first Trump Assassin kid got to the most obvious and perfect perch right under the Secret Service's nose? Especially since the Service admitted they deployed a crew in the 2nd floor of the building 20 feet behind him, with windows looking directly out and down onto the roof. Same roof he crawled across and took shots from... right in the middle of his speech when security should be highest, yet they "didn't notice him" during that entire ten minutes? Same kid with someone covert possibly in contact with him, whose cellphone location data also regularly appeared near the FBI building in DC. Next guy at the golf course, same thing. JFK's brother supposedly killed by the dude in front of him, yet the direction of the fatal hits are in the back and at an uphill angle like they came from his protectors? At this point, people should know to wait till most of the facts come out, and not trust the major media companies to tell them the truth. Nor should they fall for the narratives that seem a bit too obviously planted in order to mislead. It may pan out that this guy was just a crazy, who knows, but my comment is meant to make people question the motives, wait for Real answers and not just accept simple answers. Insider trading is a jail sentence that someone or some group may have wanted to avoid, so they deleted the guy who fed them info? Food for thought.

[@benwolk2028]

@@nicklowe_ You're right. Sometimes I forget that all caps is a sign that the speaker is infallibly correct and not to be questioned.

[@janegerard5604]

Insurance isn't perfect but I am glad I have it. I had treatment for cancer 3 years ago and it was covered by United Healthcare. I have no complaints about how this very expensive care was provided or paid for even though I did have to pay a portion of it out of pocket. Our system is very complicated to a certain extent because of government over involvement. State and federal agencies oversee every aspect of HC and the same with insurance. Perhaps it's time for DOGE to examine those systems too. Out tort claim system also raises the cost of healthcare. My son lives in the UK and their system is not good. He broke his collarbone in a bike accident and couldn't get in to see a specialist until it had healed incorrectly. And look at Canada, people are waiting 3 years just to get a GP. And they are offering MAID whenever anyone has a serious illness. They prefer people take assisted suicide to save the government money.

[@imkindofabigdeal4308]

Our predominantly employer-based healthcare system was designed for the top 10% of income earners. Works really well for that demographic since employers are paying about 90% + of the insurance premiums, capping risk with out-of-pocket maximums, and the 10%-ers can afford to max out HSAs and bridge income until Medicare.

[@sgtskysyndrome]

@@imkindofabigdeal4308 you don't know what you're talking about.

[@gayleyee5723]

Yes no wait list for medical termination, actually the doctor can be sanctioned for delaying a timely referral.

Try telling that to these Marxist idiots who are braying for universal healthcare. They keep pointing to the systems in Canada and Britain and like you claim, their systems suck

[@sitka49]

My sil fought tooth and nail to get my brother treatment - The hospital would say "Bring your credit card because the Ins hasn't approved it" How much stress on top of that? She said I can't imagine people that have to advocate for themselves that suffering from cancer or a debilitating disease while fighting with the insurance - fight the cancer and then Ins companies?

[@ferdiecassel3697]

While I understand your point and never condone violence, I can tell you first-hand UHC failed to provide proper care, services, and even competent physicians to those needing them. That's wrong and must change.

[@MegaBecks1981]

I really appreciate your moral clarity Drew!

[@LeeLoo_22]

Govt cant pay??. They sure can pay i_real and other countries billions.

[@jhs-law]

The poor CEO was so lovingly denying 33% of claims when, for no reason, he was attacked.... Of course murder is wrong. In a well-functioning society, it would be condemned. We don't have a well-functioning society and it's showing. Andrew -- you have been a thought leader for decades -- and yet, do nothing but bloviate. You have done nothing but cheerlead for the elites who got us into this terrible situation. We need to get rid of the "old Right" which is all sanctimony, no solutions.

[@digitalnomad9985]

What is your point? He said we're going about health care wrong and that health insurance is insane. Murder is wrong. Decent folk condemn it. In poorly functioning societies, decent people are rarer. Give me an example of Klavan cheering for the elites. He called you out for being morally bankrupt and it hurt your feels, and you lash out with slander. Compared to insurance executives, the Quislings who have been undermining the fabric of our society are far worse. I have been about as angry at them as anyone has ever been at someone he hasn't met. I've never shot one. I've never called for one to be shot (or jailed without trial). I've never cheered the few who have shot or shot at them. I dared to hope that conservatives held themselves to a higher standard. Your only objection to Thomas Matthew Crooks, apparently, was his aim (target) not his aim (intent). I don't know how you get from "you shouldn't cheer this murderer" to "you should like this victim". THIS DOES NOT FOLLOW LOGICALLY. Klavan said the former, you are arguing against the latter.

[@TheHaas123]

If the new right is pro murder then you’re no different than the communists. The new right is supposed to be good. That’s what I signed up for. The old right was evil. They supported the endless wars. We opposed that. They supported shipping our jobs off to China. We opposed that. They were pro mass immigration. We weren’t. But if your new right is pro murder, then you’ve gone way too far for any of us. The right is supposed to be moral, the right is supposed to be the side of life. The right is suppose to be the side of religion. You are not.

[@sitka49]

It's call Managing reality: It's like a cop standing there with an automatic weapon after a terrible accident Telling you "there's nothing to see here folks" . but yet there's bodies lying everywhere, and a tanker truck flipped over. Kladvan probably has a lot investments in insurance he needs to protect - as long as he's been around I can't imagine he's doesn't have connections?

[@michaelherman6902]

@@digitalnomad9985 It's good to see some people are still sane.

[@occamsshavecream4541]

Agree.

[@campandcook3118]

Brian Thompson INCREASED the DENY rate from 10% to 35%. The insurance is denying the product people PAYED for in 35% of cases and violate their contacts. Desputing this should be free for their ill customers. Main issue is that most Senators and lawmakers are bought of by pharma and issuance companies. IF no 🙅 way is available to solve these issues through normal channels, people will find a way to persecute them outside the law

[@theophrastus3.056]

Are you buying guns and planning a murder? It sure sounds like it.

[@fettbub92]

Why not vote for politicians who arent corrupt? Why not break away from the two party system and this bullshit "right/left" dynamic? Why do you have to murder one person, in cold blood? Dont try to excuse this behavior, especially when I'm sure your dumb ass doesn't run for office, or put yourself out there to change anything. Grow up.

[@danielwessel9884]

How about pick a different insurer? Then you don't have to murder anyone. And you assume the motive of the shooter lines up with your opinion of "evil" corporations.

[@sgtskysyndrome]

...and so dies liberty.

[@theophrastus3.056]

@@campandcook3118 Are you saying you approve of what happened?

[@iemy2949]

Can’t afford it? Look at health insurance profits.

[@whousa642]

So

[@iemy2949]

@ so eliminate private insurance and more money goes to medical care

[@michaelherman6902]

health insurance profits are typically around 3-6%, and it is not known to be a very profitable business when compared to other health related markets

[@iemy2949]

@ Still in the 10’s of billions of dollars.

[@whousa642]

@@iemy2949 incorrect Eliminate Medicare and void all regulations on healthcare companies and businesses

[@chancewilson207]

“The welfare state has already gone rouge”. This is exactly it.

[@aceventuraaceventura2003]

When a health insurance for the tax paying people becomes a for profit business and also gets listed on the stock exchange, what outcomes would you expect? Same goes for the utility industry. This is why many countries do not deregulate health insurance, utilities, etc which provides services essential to their citizens.

[@karencahill4798]

Thank you for breaking this down. We need the ‘whole truth and nothing but the truth.’

[@bethisrael-bet-this-is-rea5270]

He is not guilty till proven otherwise

[@pineapple97]

2:57 Klavan hits the nail on the head but then proceeds to get sidetracked. Every developed country in the world has some mix of government insurance, out of pocket expense and private insurance. Judging by outcomes and the will of the people, conservatives included, the current system isn’t working. No system is perfect, but there are better systems out there. A Singaporean system may be more alligned with American desire for autonomy. Everyone having their own health insurance account. Where they receive refunds for not spending much on health expenses in a given year.

[@SeanMendicino-n3d]

2:30 LePen did that because Macron sided with the literal communists to deny her the office. So she basically said "you made your bed, lie in it" She didn't join the left for the reasons he said, at least not exclusively. Macron struck against NF first, and then she responded by sinking him. BAsically, LePen offered him to work together, but he CHOSE the communists

[@idahardy4052]

Talk about the ways that Obamacare has affected the prices.

[@pilarskifamily899]

I agree with Andrew. We need to repeat the entire obamacare law. Allow everyone again to buy high deductible health plans, not just the 30 and under demographic.

[@rogermenendez4052]

When the government pays for healthcare they decide for what and how much, it's that simple. The doctor's duty is not to the patient but to the payee. So they do not what's best for the patient but what's best for the government. This fiduciary arrangement has been referred to as veterinary ethics, duty to the owner, not the animal. The owner says " put him down, the vet puts him down.

[@whousa642]

just brilliant thanks for posting

[@darlacox]

What is the difference between the government deciding or the insurance companies deciding? BTW, not promoting universal health care but I do really appreciate my medicare.

[@BillieArd]

United Healthcare does pretty much the same thing. I was told (by my doctor) now that I turned 65 yrs of age...I needed to get an RSV shot along with my Flu shot. The Insurance (UHC) went ahead and covered the flu shot...but I had to pay $400.00 out of my own pocket to cover the RSV shot. Funny thing...I had the RSV shot when I turned 63...and Blue Cross and Blue Shield covered it. It is hell growing old.

[@whousa642]

@ omg you had to pay? Didn’t you tell them that you are an entitled American

[@lee3171]

@@BillieArd Did you ever consider appealing the decision?

[@MollyOKami]

(A long post, but PLEASE read the whole thing) I gets people's frustrations with the healthcare industry. Both of my parents, and myself, have worked in it (and 3 doctors in my family, to boot), &, trust me, you all don't know the _HALF_ of it. That being said, the truth is that, between the healthcare industry, insurance, and us, we're ALL to blame for why it's so bad. Yes, the insurance companies & hospitals tag-team to screw us out of every possible dime, but we don't make the lifestyle & cultural changes that would make most of is irrelevant. We've built up welfare programs, even in healthcare, that have encouraged more people to become leeches on society than contribute to help those who really just need a little help. We put so many toxins into our our food & around us that, while food is cheap, it's contributed to poor health & obesity. Even before the "coof coof" virus, we've become so HYPER-sterile that we're MORE prone to illness than a lot of our ancestors because we're not building up our natural resistances. Yes, the insurance companies & hospitals are bleeding us dry (the whole "$15 aspirin" thing is not a myth; it's quite real), but we're not guiltless, either. The insurance companies & hospitals have also been exploiting each other. The reason that this whole issue with anesthesia even came up is because your surgical team bills for hours that the anesthesiologist isn't even in the surgery with you. I'm not joking. Anesthesiologist will bill for more hours of surgery than are even in any given DAY. They can put you under for your surgery, then leave you there to go to another surgery, still billing you & insurance for the whole time, as if they were there. This is not only corrupt, but dangerous, because people _HAVE_ died because a complication arises during surgery. If you don't have the correct levels of anesthesia, you may not be completely under & will wake up in the middle of surgery with no one to be able to put you back under _OR_ you could died on the table because you had too much. This is especially an issue for people who are over/underweight because your fat levels _DO_ affect the effectiveness of drugs. It's VITAL that, if you ever go under the knife, that you have a talk with your surgeon about whether or not the anesthesiologist is going to be present throughout the entire procedure. Hospitals then pass the cost of that missing anesthesiologist to you & insurance. _THAT'S_ why insurance is fighting back. It's not as simple as even Right-leaning people are making is seem.

[@darlacox]

Oh, we know it's not just the insurance. That's why we keep saying the healthcare system.

[@KirisutonoNeko]

Thank you for sharing. This is what I’ve witnessed in my corner of healthcare too. Say it louder and often for the people in the back!

[@d.e.b.b5788]

We can't 'shop for insurance' because we can't predict what kind of disease or accident will debilitate us. Plus, doctors billing doesn't send us bills immediately, so we don't know how much our bills will be, until sometimes MONTHS after the treatments will be done, so by the time we know that we need different insurance, we're already tens of thousands of dollars in debt. Other western countries have decent healthcare for a fraction of what we do and have far better healthcare for all.

[@JaMarrJ]

This man is on point… so HKs do we take the free lunch away at this point without it feeling inhumane or lying to people while forcing them to pay into a system by law that won’t actually serve them when their outsized arises?

[@robertlight5227]

In Ancient Greece they erected statues to regicides.

[@klown839]

This ain’t Ancient Greece.

[@robertlight5227]

@@klown839 First time in my life I wld loooove to serve on a jury!

[@janetshemaryahu5529]

Israel, where I live, has a National Health Service and nearly universal coverage. It works like this: everyone pays into the pot. Most people from their teens through their fifties draw relatively little from the pot bc their health is good. Preventative medicine is also practiced such as routine blood tests etc. to detect disease early. Large sums accumulate in the pot for the unfortunate who have defects, chronic illness, accidents, the very old, etc. And no one draws higher than average salaries from the system - no physician or administrator. The National Health Service works well. No one is ever turned away.

[@hifijohn]

its being celebrated by the right as well as the left. get your facts straight, if you care about facts.

[@victorfranko8317]

Anyone who celebrates murder is not a moral person and cannot be trusted.

[@toothbrushfromnisemonogatari]

@@victorfranko8317what do you think of Osama bin Ladens murder?

[@qstrian]

Before my cardio-thoracic surgeon performed my triple bi-pass surgery, I reminded him that the architect of the Affordable Care Act discouraged medical intervention after the age of seventy-five. 😮

[@gorequillnachovidal]

well we all know that UHC is terrible and they are thieves

[@whousa642]

incorrect

[@dustinmiller2775]

That's not the issue. I am not convinced that this dude hasn't been framed more than Mona Lisa! 🤨

[@AlphaJ369]

How about getting rid of private equity/conglomerate corporations in healthcare and real estate? How about outlawing lobbying and investigating politicians that take bribes and prosecute them? How about changing the process that takes new drugs to market? I've been laid off in that sector so if anyone has an in with Trump, the problem would be solved!

[@steveconrad8857]

Yes, we should all mourn someone when there’s tapes of his companies laughing about denying necessary, life-saving coverage.

[@whousa642]

You are attempting to justify murder. Are you a Christian?

[@toothbrushfromnisemonogatari]

@@whousa642what do you think of Osama bin Ladens murder?

[@lilythomas869]

But how is a multi, multi millions salary justified?

[@vanessa1569]

And why is no one talking about the insider trading and dumping of stock?

[@nautastro1503]

Doctors and med schools are the real issue. Medicine is over commercialized including med education.

[@anthoulla100]

I bet Luigi was framed Why would an intelligent man he carry around a gun after a crime

[@iemy2949]

@@anthoulla100 Maybe he has a Jesus complex.

[@phillipharris8277]

If you don't like your health insurance, insure yourself. Then, when your claim is denied because of the greed of the insurer, justice will be done automatically.

[@Elemental_Entity]

What ?

[@Vince-l4k]

That's daft

[@phillipharris8277]

@@Vince-l4k True, but I can't really say it the way I want. I would get censored.

[@0Notsure]

He probably has a personal doctor he pays out of pocket as a contract on his phone.

[@janeyrevanescence12]

I have been praying every day for the past week for the soul of Brian Thompson and for his family but I'm very careful who I tell because of where I live (sapphire blue town). Thompson may have done some bad things in his life/tenure. But his children are going to have to go through life without their father. You can disagree with bad things someone does and still have empathy for their loved ones when that someone dies. What's happened to our humanity?

[@stevenrogge964]

Mr. Klavan You have ignored the reason insurance was started in the first place: 1. It was a collective of people to build up the funds to cover medical costs both general and emergency. 2. It was never envisioned keep you alive forever. 3. It was intended to overcome your bad habits that could kill you, ie. running out in the middle of traffic, smoking cigars, or eating till you bust at thanksgiving. Companies developed it to provide for their employees’ health care needs as a benefit. An incentive to work for them rather than the other company. When I started my career, it was one of the major benefits that I reviewed. It is not a racket even now but the “Affordable Health Care act” has turned part of it into that. The promise of health coverage no matter what is ridiculous as you say and destructive. You do not deserve health care; it is not a right. It is a responsibility of the individual.

[@james609]

This is FAR RIGHT don't let anyone tell u otherwise. America understands Luigi.

[@timhart3302]

I'm afraid health insurance has gotten totally out of hand. No amount of numbers of big shots banding together can put Humpty dumpty together again. Either start making medicines cheaply or all that will go by the wayside and we'll start witnessing witch doctoring in the hospitals and the such you greedy bastards.

[@RichardSpeights]

And in this massive swirl of deaths, conflicts, and images, I wanna know more about the stylish Korean woman, who was doing bare-handed battle with well-armed soldiers. Wow, who is she, and what's her story?

[@jameskenyon918]

Sad state of affairs in this world.

[@dansaintamour]

Sometimes bad things happen to bad people

[@james609]

Never have I listened to such a nonsensical stream of consciousness. It's amazing the mind games you play to try to distance yourself from the truth that most Americans can sympathize with Luigi's motives and frustrations. The CEO suffered a much less painful death than those he denied coverage to have. So out of touch.

[@saml8967]

United Healthcare was using AI to determine whether to deny claims.

[@VinnyMartello]

Is the killer even the killer?

[@deavman]

Some governments are actually successful to manage health care. I live in Israel, it works.

[@benwolk2028]

If you're on the same side as Taylor Lorenz, you're almost certainly wrong.

[@gorequillnachovidal]

i think she is against child porn....does your statement stand?

[@whousa642]

Wrong? Pure evil

[@venalleader2909]

a stopped clock is right twice a day

[@JackKosherDog]

Perfect explanation. Have read a couple of comments, and I think everyone needs to listen to your broadcast again, and I plan to follow my own advice. The American brain is a little bit out of shape, and you gave us a workout here, while some decided to go sit back in the sauna.

[@CP-os1pc]

Lorenz got fired

[@johnnysalter7072]

It is difficult for me to comprehend that people in the news business, are so out of touch they do not know how despised the health insurance companies are.

[@sgtskysyndrome]

It is difficult for me to comprehend that people, who claim to be part of the civil society, are so out of touch that they don't understand basic virtue and that something like this is unequivocally wrong and unjustifiable.

[@dennisshaper4744]

I despise people like you...I guess that means I can do what I want to you...right?

[@digitalnomad9985]

What in this video makes you thing Klavan doesn't know health insurance companies are unpopular?

[@vantagephotosLLC]

Klaven, you seem ignorant about the ceo's financial crimes .

[@lindawilson8318]

Robin Hood in reverse -

[@ram0166]

It could have worked if the government would have stayed out of it.

[@loucontino4804]

When you 'raise you voice' beyond self-control, all that is heard is 'you raised your voice'. Any message or motive is blown away like chaff with the wind.

[@vanessa1569]

Dunno about that. I think his message got through with resounding clarity.

[@imacmill]

Get to work fixing it for us, my good man. How long shall we give you?

[@occamsshavecream4541]

Please explain more about the dissolution of the long-standing agreement with Saudi Arabia to use the "petro dollar" and how the emergent BRIC currency threatens the U.S. dollar.

[@spicole2937]

Some rich telling us to pay our way lol

[@anthonytripp2251]

Dude, you have no idea.

[@UndercoverHomeless]

when someone has that much blood on their hands i’m not really surprised when someone comes to collect on their blood tax.

[@faith5563]

People often go postal for less.

[@benwolk2028]

Is that what this shooter did? Or was he just an unhinged narcissist looking for attention?

[@danielwessel9884]

Does he really have blood on his hands? I think the opinion of insurers has gone adolescent in this country. When you pick an insurer, and there are good ones and bad ones, you don't get to call them heartless murderers when they deny a claim. You took the risk by picking them. You don't get to blame everyone and everything when life happens.

[@UndercoverHomeless]

@@danielwessel9884blame the victims of the immoral system and not the immoral system itself… genius! why didn’t i think of that!?

[@UndercoverHomeless]

⁠​⁠@@danielwessel9884i guess bro should’ve picked a better job. he knew how he was gonna be perceived as when he took the job and made the changes that he did. he should’ve known the risks 🤷‍♂️

[@abubaca2683]

The insurance companies in America, both property and health insurance, have us by the short hairs. It's because of government regulation and actually the insurance companies themselves that have increased health prices to what they are. I'm not celebrating the death of anyone. That doesn't mean I don't understand why people are celebrating it.

[@whousa642]

Are you evil?

[@sgtskysyndrome]

But do you understand why the act and the celebration of it are wrong and toxic to a civil society?

[@abubaca2683]

@@sgtskysyndrome of course it's toxic. But instead of asking if I understand the toxicity of what happened, maybe we should be addressing the toxicity of the corrupt system that sparked such anger in a man.

[@dennisshaper4744]

Dumb comment. Why would the insurance companies want higher healthcare costs? You are can idiot.

[@SuperVt100]

See, that's where health is based upon the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s model of healthcare. That is, the law mandates the method of healthcare. This is wrong. People that want to live healthy lives based upon nutrition and a healthy lifestyle should be able to. They should be supported by the healthcare system, not opposed by it. No one should be able to dictate the level of healthcare we should receive, or the healthy living we should be able to attain. (Bill Gates should not be the defacto guru of what healthy and unhealthy - he should take his billionaire hands of our food supply. We are not his guinea pigs.)

[@kerwinbrown4180]

Your information is flawed. The current Healthcare system is newer than the 90's.

[@leatharay3565]

You make so much sense. I

[@tommywise1702]

Another truth bomb.

[@dhardman2474]

There was a death panel. It happened in texas

[@CarlSmith-tg9qx]

This guy is good

[@michaelrevy874]

silver bullet foolishness

[@ramlozz8368]

FREE LUIGI!!

[@dashley2525]

This dog don't hunt

[@todddanforth8853]

There is NO EXCUSE for making 6 billion dollars on healthcare coverage like United did last year. This fast talking guy just ignores things that many of us believe are moral issues.

[@BillieArd]

Maybe it is a good thing RFK is going to be working on American healthcare...it definitely needs to be fixed! Also...and do NOT blame just leftist. AND don't preach to us about how bad Canada's healthcare is when I have lost relatives due to denial of surgeries, or medical services to ease pain. Cause there are more people in this country...both right and left who have all experienced healthcare issues with insurance companies! I have a cousin who has been denied help from her health care company...and she will probably die due to their denying health care options by her doctor. I don't condone murder...but if you look at those who have been denied health care when dealing with cancer...etc? One thing about it...this situation has awakened the American electorate...and this may cause some good changes (besides Insurance companies just taking the photos of their CEO's off their web sites shows how this has effected these healthcare companies...or stop giving their CEO's 10 million dollars a yr salary!!!)

[@digitalnomad9985]

He never implied that only leftists disapprove of the industry.

[@fernandasulla2809]

Talking to fast sounds like a word salad

[@faith5563]

Is not the pen purportedly mightier than the sword?

[@BrianX-ve8nh]

This is a lie that you have been taught to make passivity the norm. TPTB want you passive and accepting of any and all atrocities that they can perpetuate against you.

[@Thatoneguy-vd8ge]

The pen is definitely mightier than the sword. Our friend at UHC used the pen to murder and bankrupt tens of thousands of Americans and families.

[@darlacox]

Certainly in this case it has killed many more. Does that make it mightier?

[@ColinBeck-f9n]

He broke Trumpf's Law: "Never borrow more than you can safely lift."

[@fettbub92]

I workes in health insurance for a bit, i know this CEO has blood on his hands, indirectly; that doesnt justify walking up to the guy and gunning him down from behind, likr a coward. This murder does NOTHING! All it has done is make CEOs retreat into their narcissistic fantasies of being so important that they get assasinated. Im so sick of the stupidity of this country. The murderer is a rich, would be CEO himself, who had an unfortunate mental break, and was corrurpted by ideology. His family could have afforded all the healthcare he needed, and instead he goes to hawaii, reads the Unibomber, and gets radicalized. To those who like this CEO being killed, realize that your favorite politicians were probably in that CEOs pocket. Recognize your corrupt govermment and corrupt system. Dont play mouth service, actually pay attention and learn something.

[@argokutt8408]

Next CEO will think brobably before not paying and arguing 😂

[@will7its]

I haven't seen the body......Just Saying

[@7779-c3m]

Andrew ,How much have you been payed by them ?

[@JamesTiberius-pw1du]

He is another cockroach out to point in the wrong direction. I am sad YT made this clown a rec and gladly gave him a thumbs down. But at his advanced age and apparent health degeneration this is all he can do

[@windowshaman]

Can you give us some definition of leftist? Maybe include a definition of rightist? You might redefine yourself that might be interesting. Most of what you say is just pure horseradish. It didn’t need to be like this.

[@WadeWeigle]

The man is spitting facts.

[@lucianomezzetta4332]

my ass

[@BillieArd]

well...better spitting than drooling.

[@jacobmccarthy1171]

No he’s not

[@johnfish1194]

He was a rich trust fund baby. i doubt he had any bills from any insurance company that he couldn't pay.

[@nicklowe_]

Rich trust fund babies are a fact of life. We can't let envy cloud our understanding of the most fundamental rights of American society; no one has a right to take the life of an innocent man without a just trial.

[@digitalnomad9985]

@@nicklowe_ I'm not sure, but I think he was talking about the shooter. You seem to think he was talking about the shootee.

[@nicklowe_]

@@digitalnomad9985 You're correct I was definitely mistaken. I've been on a comment tear over this. Wasn't careful.