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[@DrTaylorMarshall]

Thank you for addressing the sharpness and for your thoughts in the 3861 movement.

[@DeeKay1911]

I have the 3861 Sapphire sandwich and didn't even realise the sharpness was suppose to be a problem until I saw some of these videoes - It really is a fantastic watch

[@nathanf1934]

This is the best 3861 review by far. Finally someone giving a real review and not just parroting specs. Fantastic 👍🏻

[@stefanfreestylez]

@5:05 is what people need to be showing rather than specs and measuring the thing

[@malcpilling7935]

Had my 3861 just over 1 week on the sailcloth and leather deployment strap. Agree with everything you’ve said for me the biggest improvement is the reintroduction of the ‘step dial’ it adds so much more than the older 1861 model which I owned previously. Like you no sharp edges or poorly machined just quality made . Great Vid 👌🤩

[@redrum_5.021]

This is, hands down, one of the best reviews I've seen on the new speedy. Great review Showcase!

[@livewithlolexx]

So we are in agreement. We are buying the new speedy....

[@redrum_5.021]

@@livewithlolexx hell yes.. after the honeymoon period with the cermit is over

[@livewithlolexx]

@@redrum_5.021 I’m calling my accountant right now. Gonna see if I can HELOC my Jordan’s

[@redrum_5.021]

@@livewithlolexx do it!!!!! haaha

[@neoLover23]

Don’t wear your watch in the shower hot tub or sauna it wrecks the seals.

[@davidkaplan5517]

depends what watch but there’s some risk

[@philnelson2607]

@Johhny Johnstone is yours the new one Johhny, or older model?

[@lonewolfemcquade8133]

@@perardua1861 totally agree 👍 it makes no sense

[@mickeylickey123]

Still,, it shouldn't have that edge. As a hobbyist machinist, you don't leave edges like that. On anything.

[@SpyderTime]

I agree, if it had nice smooth edges there would be nothing to debate. We could just be discussing it`s strong points which are many.

[@Dave-wy4so]

I'm wearing a 3861 right now and I agree with you. It shouldn't have that aggressive of an edge.

[@aajaaaa]

I have the watch simple words beauty , quality and functionality

[@CryptoSeven7]

I imagine they will be finishing the edges off more since the TWC review. Why wouldn't you correct an issue in response to such honest feedback? Nice review though, subscribed.

[@baikalc.4260]

looks too sissy, i feel 3750.50 sgot better looks even tho s not meats certified.

[@TimWrite]

FMD showcase!!! I love this outdoors watch review!!

[@jarrodlee1506]

Makes sense

[@swampscott2670]

Thanks. This still makes me want an 1861 or a 861 instead.

[@benm2370]

Why not a 321?

[@swampscott2670]

@@benm2370 I don’t like those either. I could have had one and I could’ve played the “investment” game. But a moon watch to me doesn’t have a glass top and bottom. And I don’t like those bands either.

[@swampscott2670]

@@vitaboost I don’t like the new dark dial with those steps and everything. I don’t want a modern movement in such a classic that has actually never been to space (and may never). I don’t like the new wristband for this watch (even though it’s essentially the same as the one that I have on my Speedmaster automatic). I don’t like the changes to the inscription; sounds like something written by the legal team since this new watch is likely not nasa certified and we have no information if it ever passed any of the tests. 861 and 1861 we know has been or is used in space at least.

[@lonewolfemcquade8133]

Great review but I'll never understand taking a shower with a watch on

[@erik7346]

I only go with my apple watch

[@scotty88lp]

Yea steam is no bueno

[@ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available]

How do you time the 2 minutes necessary for the conditioner to remain in your hair?

[@Kostja81]

3861 haselite version is the version i prefer. I just love the haselite look :-)

[@mbglobal6246]

omega absolutly hit it out of the park with this watch, every aspect they updated was perfectly done, they really gave the collectors the ultimate modern speedy, unlike rolex where they purposly never excecute to collectors wishes, Like who wants the sub to go to 41mm no1 so thats what rolex does

[@nicholasdavies6264]

I own the Snoopy dark side of the moon .... love it ! 👍

[@donaldneo4317]

I would think that the previous 1861 rated for 50m water resistance will be at least pressure tested... I cannot imagine Omega would give a rating without at least pressure testing it. As for warranty, my understanding is that it will not cover water damage... they can blame it on operation of pushers when in contact with water or wear and tear of seals... I wind my 1861 almost everyday, I would imagine the crown stem rubbing against the gasket will accelerate the wear on it. Lets say even if I pressure test it every year and on the 4th year the test still came out fine but that doesn't mean it will not give way before the 5th year right? After all its a 4yr old rubber with constant abrasion with the crown stem.

[@JP-lf6zl]

Not true on the warranty statement.

[@xekret]

I have an 1861 and was going to sell it to buy a new one. I instead decided to just buy the bracelet since the Omega boutique sells it for $680.

[@15v1c1]

did u just ask the boutqiue if u can buy a bracelet

[@xekret]

@@15v1c1 Yes, I did. They will even install and size it when it comes in.

[@15v1c1]

@@xekret thanks mate I have a moon phase trying to get a metal bracelet

[@FadeToBlack2181]

Great video James, thanks for clearing up the sharp edge issue. Hope to add this one to the collection by the end of the year.

[@leeharding8306]

Obviously theirs more polished reviews but this is one of the best ones of this watch. It’s a vintage watch with modern build quality and a beautiful one at that. The clasp and bracelet look really elegant and comfortable. I think I’m getting one. I’m glad someone has put the stupid sharp edges thing to bed. Funny how the guy who started it got the Rolex your watch is in call straight after 🤔 it’s almost like he planned it. Remember a Rolex might be a good investment if you get the right one at retail but good luck with that 🤦🏻‍♂️ on the whole watches are a bad investment unless you love watches and enjoy wearing them. I don’t think Omega will be doing any discount on theses for a long time if at all.

[@davidkaplan5517]

you’ll be able to get 20% off from AD.

[@leeharding8306]

@@davidkaplan5517 dream on. Those days are gone I’m afraid. I know people who work in Omega AD’s and they are not giving away discount on the new Speedmaster.

[@davidkaplan5517]

@@leeharding8306 BS. Give it 3 months they’ll be discounted everywhere but Omega.

[@apathyboy5306]

I just bought a 1861 from a local AD. I got offered 10 percent off on the 3861.

[@davidkaplan5517]

@@apathyboy5306 lol and it’s only been out a couple months. These are mass produced. Anybody saying it’s not gonna get discounted is nuts.

[@infooptimalfitness7720]

Went to the watch boutique and compared the 1861 vs the new 3861. I walked out with the 1861. To me the bracelet for the 3861 is way to flimsy and delicate. IMHO it leans towards a woman's bracelet...style wise. Also I prefer the case and dial on the 1861. So it comes down to movements. Sure the 3861 movement is an upgrade but the 1861 is basically a 861 movement and both have been to space and are solid. So I decided to save $2k and buy the 1861. Just my 2 cents.... Cheers!

[@infooptimalfitness7720]

@@MT-kx2uc I didn't make a mistake. Plus it was cheaper because it was a holiday sale.

[@watcheskick]

Thanks for the review! Can’t wait to pick up my own sapphire sandwich!

[@u.u.u9969]

I sold my saphire 1861 for the new saphire 3861 simply because its the latest and greatest point blank period. Didn't even think twice or hesitant or question it one bit.

[@philnelson2607]

How have you found the switch between the two different models?

[@u.u.u9969]

@@philnelson2607 Never looked back.

[@sylvainauvaro9160]

For me i ll choice the 1861 .... she ' s like the 321 and 821 ...in the moon...not the coaxial.....

[@chriscollins7934]

Is that Bigfoot I can see in the background?: nicely paced review!

[@basictimes4554]

Not every person is going to understand you and that is Okej. They have a right to their opinion and you have every right to ignore it, opinions are like nose, everybody got one but it usually has a couple of holes in it. :)

[@StealthyArmada]

That one nose hair

[@bernardcohen3245]

You can’t shower with it. The warm water vapor penetrates the pushers and crown Have seen you seen bathroom mirror after a hot shower ? You think your watch is different ? Vapor molecules are thousands times smaller than water.

[@sale83]

First 1861 big box, then 861, then 1967-8 321, then 3861 and then one of the versions in sapphire, also one with brownish dial..That is how your collection should look like.🙂

[@thomas181212]

i wear this watch day and night, and i dont feel the 'rough' edges, I FKING LOVE MY HESALITE 3861 WATCH.

[@dreamtube3433]

Had my 3861 since Christmas. Have been sent to Swiss for chronograph regulation, twice. Still not running smoothly. Never buying Omega again. Already sold my other Speedy and this one is going too.

[@johnprosser5035]

A shower.... Is the equivalent to swimming at 200m because of the pressure of the water against the seals. And if you bend your wrist and accidently push a pusher.... You're watch will be cattle trucked. Even tested at 50m it's not advised to do washing up etc.

[@TimWrite]

Congratulations on passing 3k subscribers Showcase!!

[@bernardcohen3245]

I’m pulling trigger on it for my 66 th birthday That’s next yr. Well better late than never

[@cechzc1u]

Don't ever think that your warranty covers anything water relater. You'll never get the manufacturer to cover water damage. It's always due to abuse or mishandling. Expect them to reply back with a big repair invoice. If it's salt water then kiss your watch goodbye.

[@searay2621]

It's too bad that in person it looks like a woman's watch it's so small. It's damn near unreadable it's so small. I couldn't believe this was 42mm, in person it looks like a 38 mm watch. Not a fan, just too small to appreciate it.

[@Sams911]

I bought the Ed White Cal 321.... it's the only Omega I own, and the one of the only ones I'd want to. If I wanted the best movement.. I'd get a Lange or even a Daytona .. The whole reason to own a Speedmaster is the history and that beautiful Lemania designed movement... and the vintage case and bracelet is also much nicer in the new modern manufacturing style.

[@Mega-zi7ys]

Pls don't put Lange and Daytona in the same sentence when talking about best movement. They're in very different leagues.ALS movements are haute horologie... Rolex are mass produced by machines. Where Rolex wins over ALS is publicity marketing. Regards.

[@mikekingsborough1]

Has anyone else ever thought that the dial on the Speedmaster is difficult to read? I have a fairly new speedmaster and I've hardly worn it over the last 5 years. I think that's because it's a chore to read and it's frustrating. Lack of contrast in hand thickness to dial markings, a busy dial, and tachymeter that serves no purpose but just adds to the confusion. I've developed the opinion that I don't really think this is an awesome watch anymore, it's useless to me almost, and people just own it because they think they need to?

[@philnelson2607]

Interesting to read your comments but still have an itch I need to scratch! If you’re in the Uk maybe you would consider selling? Till I’ve owned one I won’t be able to get it out of my head 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@mikekingsborough1]

@@philnelson2607 In Canada! Personally, I choose my explorer over the Speedmaster every time. That wasn't my original intent either, it just doesn't really help me tell the time TBH. :(

[@mattt9870]

Great watch James. I think I’m going to stick with my 1861 simply because I prefer it on strap . I might look at purchasing the new black strap though if it available separately.

[@DeeKay1911]

Have had this for a couple of months and it's just phenomenal - LOVE the bracelet and the fit on the wrist! I have the Sapphire so love the polished links in the bracelet catching the light and shining a bit. Regarding the sharpness - If people haden't been shouting about it, I would never have given it a thought

[@KK-qi6mt]

You shouldn’t shower with your watch. Steam is not good for any watch irrespective of how water resistant it is.

[@stevemitchell7981]

Showcase, another great review. I have said it many times before, it's the best Chrono on the market for the money.

[@JamalKhaffaf]

Min 10 and you still didn’t talk about why 3861 is not good?!?! Waist of time

[@nanomac4147]

I am doing some serious tyre-kicking of watches at the moment. I have whittled it down to an Rolex Oyster Perpetual or the new Omega Speedmaster ‘Moonwatch’. I have watched about a dozen online reviews of the Omega. There’s a really, really detailed review by an Austrian dude who really knows his watches. The rest of the reviews - no disrespect intended - are weak. I shuddered when I see ‘reviews’ consisting largely of ego-stroking face-to-face time with Big Shots from Omega HQ. You gotta have concerns about the objectivity of such reviews. Another concern I would have is about whether or not these ‘reviewers’ are actually buying the Omegas with their own cash? I accidentally stumbled across this review and - to my shame - I was just about to change channel (I was puzzled by the video being shot in an alpine pasture), until I heard that the reviewer had actually bought the Omega in his hand. Respect! Very honest and personal review. Upon finishing the review, I subscribed to the channel. Similar to your advice on having one example of both the Hesalite and the Sapphire Omegas, I know that I will only be content when I have bought both the Rolex and the Omega. Great review, sir. My compliments. Keep up the good work.

[@mikehammer8555]

I watched even though I have the sapphire version coming in a couple weeks ! Nice review, you checked all the boxes !

[@davidkaplan5517]

if you’re a purist the sapphire is a no no :)

[@crackhead187]

If you're a purist you would get a 321, one that actually went to space...

[@mikehammer8555]

@@crackhead187 a purist in some ways, I like the scratch resistance of the sapphire. :)

[@danielpowers2413]

Hesalite is the way to go. It’s the only real Moon Watch

[@johnnyguitar6697]

Good review and observations on that watch, which pretty much mirror my own observations.

[@user-oo5yh4qz6i]

Very nice review - I own the 1861 hesalite and I like it better than the new Speedmaster (but hey that is just personal :-) ) I am always in the water with my 1861. If a 5000 euro Omega cannot handle a ittle water it is not worth the name Omega. But do not dive with a speedy. I had contact with an Omega spokesman and he guarateed that swimming and showering waas just fine, the only thing you have to do is service the watch in about 5 year. Omega would never spoil their reputation with a leak watch. So service once and a while and enjoy the watch on land and in water.

[@truchua2626]

May i recomend you the xiaomi electric nose hair trimmer?

[@livewithlolexx]

Knocked it out of the park on this Showcase! My bank account hates you right now lol 😂

[@watchcraft]

Fantastic revue. Will pick mine up next month.

[@markwright8118]

It’s beudiful. Absolutely beudiful. 🙉🧀

[@JP-lf6zl]

Been showering/swimming with my 3861 Saphire and all is well, will do annual seal checks until the 5-year warranty runs out, and then I'll figure it out from there. I have been experiencing +3 seconds/month (not day or week but rather a month). Great review, thanks!

[@thegorn]

Don't shower and bath in it. It's not a dive watch.

[@wesleymartin6618]

Thank you for the content and the effort and honest viewpoint, i too went and got the watch because i had to find out. and it was making me crazy the comments about razor blades.

[@mrp9498]

It shows you that when one person says something hundreds of others will blindly repeat it. 🐑

[@andrewtudehope4443]

Wow, just came across your channel and I really like your reviews. So refreshing compared to all the hype KZbin channels which do not put much thought or enthusiasm into the watches before them. Also like the background in this review.

[@powayimports4175]

Just tried one on yesterday. To me the edge is sharp and as was the bracelet. Wasn’t enough for me to pass on it. But definitely felt it...just trying to decide if i want this or a seamaster for my first omega.

[@XFHU]

From a owner of a seamster 300m blue, get the moonwatch without any doubt !!! The bracelet of the seamaster is a pain in the a**e, the clasp is was to thick and it feel uncomfortable, I tried the 3861 and 1861 these days and I decided to get the 3861 sapphire version

[@Valera_Scotland]

I really prefer the 1861 to be honest. That dark grey dial really makes the hands pop, and feels less cluttered. Got mine for 2k less than the 3861. I wear mine on straps anyway, so the size is perfect. Totally love it

[@joecampo6430]

I have both and love them the 3861 ids darker and has more contrast! Good review Ill be back for more!!!

[@stefanogoldoni5059]

I own a 1996 861 and I'm definitely buying the the new hesalite 3861.

[@Roy-vh9rp]

How sharp is this watch - can you use it for shaving you might ask - the answare you are looking for starts at 3:00

[@olblueeyes1915]

Great video. Thanks

[@wristwatch_holic9722]

Congratulations again! Speedy is only my Omega and will be. So you have Apollo50th and professional which both made of 3861 movement. Will you still get Snoopy which make you have 3rd watch with the same movement but different outside?

[@railmaster.7752]

4.29: That i NOT a 32 mm case! :)

[@andrewlekin4627]

Just got one three days ago, love it bcz the shape of case, the bracelet design as well as the very shiny movement indeed.

[@davidrichter3681]

I'm not sure that I like the changes to it, especially the bracelet but like anything that is changed and made newer it will take some getting used to and maybe I'll like it better than the old.

[@SteelmoonWatches]

Nice review. With regards to water resistance on a watch - always divide it by 3 to be careful. General water tests are on a non moving watch head which is submerged at X metres of depth. If you move at that particular depth, you instantly increase the pressure by a factor of 1.5-2.

[@hellsalite4444]

My A.D said people are buying the 3861 bracelet and throwing it on their 1861. I might do the same down the track. At the moment im enjoying my 1861, i like the lineage of the line. I Will probably pick up a 3861 years down the track, for a discount. Very nice vid showcase. Subscribed.

[@Judah.Rosenthal]

Watch out. The lugs on the 3861 are 1mm shorter. I put an old bracelet on the new watch and they extended past the lugs. So flip that for the other way around. This might not bother everyone but it would me.

[@suicunecx2526]

The reason you shouldn't shower with you watch (personal preference but also recommended not to do so) is so the expansion and contraction of the gaskets due to heat and cooling of temperature can compromise the overall seal and potentially let in moisture. When watches are tested for water resistance it is rare that includes any sort of temperature gauging and as such that isn't something necessarily accounted for in the WR rating. I say this humbly as someone who had his luminox navy seal "dive" watch fill with steam in the shower some years back. xD

[@15harry1561]

I don't see the reason to shower with a watch on, I even take my G shock off to shower after a days hard work.

[@babzpeter1]

Absolutely love this watch my friend if I didn't have my Breitling Navitimer I would have definitely pick this up also love the location such a great idea keep up the awesome word kind regards Mr GMT

[@nullw8768]

Why would you want to shower or bathe with your watch on anyways?

[@blueshirtbuddah1665]

Another greAt video James. Congrats my friend on the beautiful new Speedy!

[@sky7utube]

I’d go with hesalite.

[@sergiorodriguez-mj9rh]

Why would you say it’s not sharp? it is sharp!

[@stephenhaynes603]

PD 17-01 all day l.ong.

[@anthonystevens8683]

James, a spot one video, you say it as you see it. That's what makes this a great video. If I was in the market for a new watch the 3861 could well end up on my list. Good to hear your real world views on the sharp edges that is allegedly is a huge issue with the Seamaster 300M as well, odd as I have no issues with a 2020 model.

[@Rick-uu4sj]

No. Its sharp. At least the 4 I put on.

[@Marco-uo6np]

Great in depth video James. Love these outdoor style reviews. I was worried the bracelet would be too jingly jangly and would take away from the wearing experience, but I do believe Omega has done very well. I was also worried about the size of the clasp, but I think you hit the nail on the head when you said Omega is aiming to create a vintage styling with high quality modern build with the new speedy. My only critique would be the lack of on the fly adjustment, but that's just my personal opinion. Much better than some 21 year old with no Rolex sitting in a chair talking watches... oh wait 😳

[@aajaaaa]

Great review

[@anthonywallace9479]

Does the new version bracelet fit the 1861? Great vid

[@apathyboy5306]

Interested in this also

[@visiblemode]

This video was such a massive breath of fresh air. Well done, man. Absolutely excellent.

[@jacobelx5841]

A real life review by a real owner! I own the same watch in the sapphire version and I couldn’t agree more on everything he pointed out about this watch, especially on the edge sharpness. Just a few more things. - The watch feels lighter than it looks thanks to the new tapered bracelet. - It has only one more micro adjustment, compared to typical two, but the links are relatively smaller than other watches’ so the fitting hasn’t been a problem for me. - The winding experience is a lot better than I expected. I rarely hear people complaining about the crown on my Navitimer. Good thing it’s an automatic piece or I would’ve lost my fingerprints over the years LOL.

[@christophervines9756]

I got me new moonwatch for $3,855 from the US Military Exchange...nylon strap and hesalite. I couldn't pass up the deal. My first omega speedmaster. So excited to get home and wear this iconic watch.

[@Jack-S4097]

Excellent real world review.. Pre-owned is still the way to go when purchasing an Omega. While it’s true that every collection needs a Speedy. I’m just not convinced that this is the best Speedy to own.

[@davidkaplan5517]

I think it depends if you’re a movement advancement guy or if you’re a history guy. Personally it would bother me to have the 1861 and not be COSC certified. I think the new model is perfect just too expensive.

[@atl3630]

2 years is my guess

[@TimberTramp]

I am calling my ad trying to get this!

[@CAborn1112]

Anyone have experience with the Uncle Seiko 1479 compared to this new bracelet?

[@philo2197]

So what do you think about the bracelet aside from the looks? The more I have checked it out it seems like the bracelet is a bit on the light side. Is it hollow links or what? Looks good to me but almost seems cheap because of how light it is.

[@scott7841]

I saw this watch in person yesterday; and was thinking the same thing. It is "so" lightweight that I wondered if it has hollow links?

[@philo2197]

@@scott7841 yeah I have checked them out a few different times trying to decide on purchasing it and though the bracelet is much more attractive than it’s predecessor it does seem a bit flimsy.

[@watchnerds]

I guess it's made out of different steel alloy, kinda like rolex with their steel bracelet. I guess it's an update as well as the old bracelet kinda have problems with rusty links due to contact with really sweaty users.

[@mrp9498]

Excellent video James.

[@christianhardwick6530]

The bracelet is available separately so the previous watch owners can slap it in their old watch !!!

[@murraypollard]

This is the most informative review I have seen. I bought the 3861sandwich one a few days ago. Great watch, and it compliments 3 Rolexes I have, rounding out my collection.

[@neilredmond1011]

Yes it’s vintage inspired but it has hot spots on it and that’s a fact ! I bought this very same watch and the bracelet is not comfortable at all it scrapes your hand when you put it on, the bracelet is the problem i went back to the AD and the salesman agreed with me also mine was running slow which should not be happening. It has been sent back to omega to find the issue, I told the guy I won’t be having the watch back and I want a replacement or a refund when they fix the problem as I am not paying £5300 for a watch omega say won’t run slow and I only owned for 5 days before having a problem because obviously it was sold to me with a problem, don’t get me wrong I love the speedmaster professional and just want one that’s working correctly. I have Rolex and Tudor and the bracelets are far superior to this one.

[@motokult]

i am a comletely Rolex addicted, however this is the first omega I desire! nice arguments my watch friend

[@TimberTramp]

If the edge is too hard on your wrist you better turnin your man card! Stop look8ng for investment potential! It’s ruined the space!

[@richardtan322]

Just found your channel. Thanks for the video. What do you think of the new 321 Ed White?

[@cqc2238]

The clasp needs tool less micro adjust for $7200.00

[@vktravellog1242]

I am looking into the sapphire version! I dont think there is any other chrono at this price range besides the speedmaster. If there are please leave a comment and let me know because I am starting a watch collection and want a chrono as part of it. I think the speedmaster is a little plain for me so its not something I would get as my first piece. In fact I have a Grand Seiko on order as my first piece!

[@dlee4713]

I never realized how sharp the edges are, but you'll only notice it if you run your finger along the edge (which normally you'd never do), otherwise it's unnoticeable on wrist.

[@HL-OOI]

Is there a carpet below while filming..?😁 I’ll wait for 5-10 years before getting it preown..🤣 I prefer the display case back since already paying so much..the movement is gorgeous..cheers from MY..

[@redazi1]

You Can talk all your life and you Can t tell the date on it , what the fuck

[@christianebert8086]

For showering and swimming I prefer the 3861 in the morning, during my office hours and shopping I switch to the 1861 - sorry, I am caught in a day dream